Irma or April

[NameGoesHere1066]

I know the Irma and too a much lesser extent were just side characters and the show was pretty shollaw to begin with, but which character comparatively had the most intersting characteristics? This might be unfair since April is more important than Irma but they were both potratyed as kind of shallow (as were all the character to some degree in the old series) one was career obsessed and one was boy crazy yet unlucky in love.

[Redeemer]

I hate to be obvious but April, bc truthfully Irma was jst everyone's punching bag. She was the typical girl, always having trouble with guys. April hung out with Mutant turtles! lol so this one is obvious to me.

[The Stryker]

Which one cooks dinner the fastest?

[ZariusTwo]

Irma had a lot of potential....bet you anything that beneath the glasses and tied back hair she was probably a bombshell to look at.

[pannoni1]

Since Irma outside the OT only appeared related to the OT itself (the first couple Archie issues and the Toon Irma figure), outside of her secretary/man hunting storyline, she only assisted the turtles if they really needed her help.

Even when just focusing on the OT, April still has lots of depth, hands-down. It even reflects upon the real world: being a reporter/correspondent/anchor is a lot more adventurous and tasking than being just a secretary. Plus, April also can assist the turtles via her turtlecom when there's trouble, something Irma rarely did over the course of the series. April even "saved" the turtles more often than Irma if you watch close enough! The only thing Irma's got going for helself over April are perhaps her cooking skills!

[ZariusTwo]

"She's only good at cooking"

How mysongistic of you. Do you listen to yourself when you talk utter bollocks?

I take it you never watched "Donatello's Degree", which, aside from being a cute Donny/Irma episode for 'shippers, also shows off some competancy and brains and helps save the day.

[Foot Soldier Clang]

Irma has been my ideal lady since I was 7-years-old :tcool:

[gobo]

April was only ever concerned with the next big story. Arguably, Irma was only concerned with men, but at least she wasn't a narcissist.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

How can you compare this? Irm'as more a comic relief. :)

[Bad Guys Lover]

For me it`s definitely April. She`s always been my role model. :twink: :tgrin: But Irma`s cool as well. Actually, she reminds me a bit of my friend. :tsmile:

[ssjup81]

I personally feel that it's unfair to say since Irma wasn't around as much as April was. I liked Irma, though, and her quirks, but as far as character development goes, April would win this hands down. She went from always trying to get the story (which would get her into trouble), to chilling and hanging back and not being so active when it came to getting a news story or helping the Turtles out. The Red Sky eps showed that she'd matured in that sense. Unfortunately, by that time all of the Channel 6 gang was phased out.

[ABrown]

Irma had a lot of potential....bet you anything that beneath the glasses and tied back hair she was probably a bombshell to look at.

Ya think...
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs36/f/2008/240/9/b/Saucy_Irma_by_berkheit.jpg

[Foot Soldier Clang]

I don't remember the later series too well, but I do remember Irma being quirkier and having a bit more personality that April.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Maybe compare Irma and Vernon? Irma would win... :)

[hadoolket]

Which one cooks dinner the fastest?
i am commander hadoolket and you're my favorite poster

[Jelly Bean]

I hate to be obvious but April, bc truthfully Irma was jst everyone's punching bag.

in what way was she a punching bag for anyone? I always saw Vernon as more of a punching bag than anyone else in chanel six crew.

Although comparatively I think maybe Irma had more common sense than April did. Also I love 80's April, she is my favorite April, but if I were to be objective, an average looking everyday girl with a job that is nothing more than a paycheck to her that worries about being attractive to guys but has a sense of humor about is more sympathatic than a beautiful super modle with a perfect body and perfect career that coukld have any guy she wants but doesn't want them because she is too wrapped up in her career.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Come on' all girls here, did anybody of you used to be Irma when a group of children were outside in the garden playing the TMNT.

[Herald7]

Come on' all girls here, did anybody of you used to be Irma when a group of children were outside in the garden playing the TMNT.

Well some of the boys in my class were playing TMNT and one of the girls wanted to play but the boys said "No, we already have an April." At which point I said she could play Irma and they were all like, "Oh yeah Irma!" Heh, and they said girls never watched the show. ;)

[Ashangelo]

Come on' all girls here, did anybody of you used to be Irma when a group of children were outside in the garden playing the TMNT.

I was never the Irma, that role was always given to my friend. I was always April haha.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I was never the Irma, that role was always given to my friend. I was always April haha.

Were you too often kidnapped by Shredder, or what happened. :)

[Sage Ninja]

Irma had potenticial I always kind of liked her. At times I liked her sense of humor better than April's since it was dry and at times self deprecating. Plus when she stopped being so damn boy crazy she was easily the snarky secretary almost in the same vein as the orginal Janine Melnitz from the Real Ghostbusters. Watch the France European episode and you'll see some pretty amusing sarcasm from her. it gavr some much needed edge other than her cross-species innuendo. Though that was funyy too!

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Irma had potenticial I always kind of liked her. At times I liked her sense of humor better than April's since it was dry and at times self deprecating. Plus when she stopped being so damn boy crazy she was easily the snarky secretary almost in the same vein as the orginal Janine Melnitz from the Real Ghostbusters. Watch the France European episode and you'll see some pretty amusing sarcasm from her. it gavr some much needed edge other than her cross-species innuendo. Though that was funyy too!

Irma's humor is much better than April's, as Irma is more a comic relief, while April takes more takes part in the adventures. But I love Irma getting in problems with the Rat King. Rat King episodes to me were always also Irma episodes.

[Foot Soldier Clang]

How many episodes did Irma mutate or get powers? Those were always fun.

[Herald7]

It's a hard choice, but I think I identify more with April desperately trying to make it in the professional world.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

It's a hard choice, but I think I identify more with April desperately trying to make it in the professional world.

I recall when playing TMNT outside in the garden, always most girls wanted to be April, and the one left over was always Irma.

[MikeandRaph87]

Never thought I would be wowed by April until I saw NGH1066's April.:teek:

As for the topic at hand,Irma was merely a man crazy secretary who gave April a friend at Channel Six. She on occassion would help the TMNT when an extra person is needed instead of Casey Jones,Usagi,Mondo Gecko, or the Punk Frogs. I am not saying I disliked her character it just I feel that she could have been fleshed out more beyond basic usage and traits. If she can be used again in the future I would hope for that.

April in the 1987 cartoon does not get the credit she deserves for being well fleshed out characters with more than just basic personality traits. The reason is obiviously the fact she is used as a plot device as a captive of Shredder or fill-in-the-blank. Overlooking that I feel she was a fleshed out character.My question is would her role of a reporter who was the outside link of the TMNT and way to learn of suspicious crimes be obsolete by the information age or could she still be that if used again as a reporter with technology and other ways to learn of the crimes of Shredder or Rat ing or the mob? She began to use the internet to get info for the TMNT as the sky turned red. That was how I actually first heard of the internet.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

How many episodes did Irma mutate or get powers? Those were always fun.

*Attack of the 50 Foot Irma
*Revenge of the Fly
*Super Irma
*Were-Rats from Channel 6

And almost becomes a zombie in:
*Leatherhead Meets the Rat King

[gobo]

Was she in that one where everyone was turned into a turtle?

[MikeandRaph87]

Was she in that one where everyone was turned into a turtle?

No, I knew she wasn't, but I got a list for you of who all was turned into a turtle.
"Donatello Trashes Slash" had the following turned into turtles :
Burne Thompson
Vernon Fenwick
Channel 6 Security Guard
Channel 6 Receptionist
Cookery Show Host
Turtle News Anchor
Turtle Shopping Channel Presenter
Turtle Weatherman
Turtle Cookery Show Host

Swedenfan1982, Irma was in that one and she was turned into a moth.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Was she in that one where everyone was turned into a turtle?

Isn't that Revenfe of the Fly?

[gobo]

Isn't that Revenfe of the Fly?
No. That was when Baxter turned everyone into bugs.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

I've always wondered if they ever considered making that episode Attack of th 50 Foot April.

Probably not, since April would be a recognizable face for New Yorkers, so it would have probably played out a little differently.

Then again this is the Fred Wolf cartoon we're talking about, it seemed like just about anything went as far as campiness.

[oldmanwinters]

I've always wondered if they ever considered making that episode Attack of th 50 Foot April.

Probably not, since April would be a recognizable face for New Yorkers, so it would have probably played out a little differently.

Then again this is the Fred Wolf cartoon we're talking about, it seemed like just about anything went as far as campiness.

Yeah, it might have been interesting. But I think Irma's sense of humor, self-pity, sarcasm, clumsiness, and naivete probably made her the best choice for that type of episode. I'm not really sure how April would have dealt with the situation; she probably wouldn't have been as funny and melo-dramatic as Irma.

[Ashangelo]

Were you too often kidnapped by Shredder, or what happened. :)

Pretty much haha!

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I love when Irma takes care of the Rat King, kicking him on his feet and the bomb goes off. Not even Splinter could do that, because of the flute.

I plan tro write a fanfic where Irma somehow saves the day.

[Foot Soldier Clang]

I love when Irma takes care of the Rat King, kicking him on his feet and the bomb goes off. Not even Splinter could do that, because of the flute.

I plan tro write a fanfic where Irma somehow saves the day.

I support this plan :tgrin:

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

It's a shame they didn't release the Channel 6 News building as a playset, one of the most recognizeable places in the show (you had the news van).

[ssjup81]

I love when Irma takes care of the Rat King, kicking him on his feet and the bomb goes off. Not even Splinter could do that, because of the flute.

I plan tro write a fanfic where Irma somehow saves the day.What abotu the ep where she was all Rambo like towards the end of season 8? Or was it season 7...? Well, the season right before the Red Sky eps.

[gobo]

That's the Season 7 finale, "Shredder Triumphant!".

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Heh, and they said girls never watched the show. ;)

They said that, yes. I know a lot of girls who watched TMNT, and I really, really, really hate hearing TMNT being just for boys. While boys liked the TMNT as characters they would play, girls could still look up to their characters. A lot of girls have watched TMNT. Compare it to other action cartoons, like:
*He-Man = Show mosly centered around him (even if Teela actually could fight). Male muscle power did most of the job.
*Transformers = Robots associated with cold, mindless and without emotions (even if Transformers used to be AI).

But TMNT:
*The TMNT work together, not just muscles, but skills, and the characters show a lof of emotions. A lof of TMNT fan fiction is written by girls, maybe usually dealing more with their emotions than kicking Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady in the butt for fifty eleventh time, but it's still a part of TMNT.

Without April having Irma as a friend, the show would be cold and too un-realistic (she would only be seen working and hanging with the Turtles). And the Archie Comics also developed a tougher April later, trained by Splinter (while 1987 April seemed to have driving skills).

I would even accepd Venus more if she didn't use magic.

TMNT was always, is and will always be as much for girls.

[Herald7]

*The TMNT work together, not just muscles, but skills, and the characters show a lof of emotions. A lof of TMNT fan fiction is written by girls, maybe usually dealing more with their emotions than kicking Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady in the butt for fifty eleventh time, but it's still a part of TMNT.

Without April having Irma as a friend, the show would be cold and too un-realistic (she would only be seen working and hanging with the Turtles).

How true that is. :) Plus there was the occasional female writer on the series.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

How true that is. :) Plus there was the occasional female writer on the series.

Can you see some differences between male and female writing in 1987 TMNT? Which episodes have female writers, how do they differ from male?

[Jelly Bean]

"She's only good at cooking"

How mysongistic of you. Do you listen to yourself when you talk utter bollocks?

please don't take this the wrong way, but are you a guy or a girl?

as to this topic, I don't know if Irma had more depth than April but at times it seemed Irma had more common sense and awareness of dangerous situations than April did.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

please don't take this the wrong way, but are you a guy or a girl?

as to this topic, I don't know if Irma had more depth than April but at times it seemed Irma had more common sense and awareness of dangerous situations than April did.

Of course, April was a reporter who risked her life several times just to get a good story. Irma was just a secretary girl (and sometimes held the camera), but far more brave than Vernon (Vernon was both reporter and cameraman).

If Irma has her own season, it's definately sason 3, where her personality peaks. Season 3 first continues the darker storyarc with "Beneath These Streets" (where Shredder seriously hurts Splinter) and "Turtles on Trial" (I like it where Krang acts really bad-ass inside that robot), then flips over to comedic "Attack of the 50-Foot Irma". :)