Marvel Movie marathon

[Cowabunga Carl]

Has anyone done this? Sat down and watched all the movies that lead to Avengers? I'm starting with Iron Man and then going Iron Man 2, Thor, Hulk, and finally Captain America. Since I have tonight off and tomorrow I thought it would be fun. What do you think of the order of movies, would you switch any around?

[UsagiYojimbo]

I think you should watch HULK before Iron Man 2... after all, it takes place roughly at the same time as IM2. ;)

[Jester]

Hulk should at least come before Thor... before Iron Man 2...yeah why not. It breaks up the Iron Man flicks.

[UsagiYojimbo]

yeah I would watch IM, Hulk, IM2, Thor, then Cap... Though, I seem to be the only person on the planet who disliked Captain America :ohwell:

[Cowabunga Carl]

Trust me your not the only one who disliked Captain America. Out of all the movies so far I think it is the worst one. Maybe it's the fact that it's the most cheesy one that bothers me. The others work so hard to be taken serious and place things in a real context while Captain America just seems like it's tongue in cheek.

I figured the two Iron Man movies first because Farvue said that IM2 comes before Hulk. It makes since too since that is when Tony becomes the "consultant".

[Jester]

I really liked the tone of Cap. The USO show was awesome. I loved The Star Spangled man with a Plan... but I've got weird taste.
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Also I really respected Steve Rogers BEFORE he became Captain America. The guy had heart, or as they'd say in the 40's, "The kid's got moxie!"

[UsagiYojimbo]

Yeah that was my problem with it... the tone. Rogers became unlikeable after his transformation. I also felt like they tried to have the Doctor/Cap relationship mirror what happened to Tony Stark with Yinsen (but without the same resonance). Not a terrible movie, but I definitely agree with Old Hob in saying it's the weakest of the lot.

[Cowabunga Carl]

Steve is the most unlikable out of the leads too. And that's saying something. He should be the everyman after all but Tony, Bruce, and Thor are more relatable. It's going to be interesting to see the interaction between them in the Avengers as you should be feeling sorry for him being a man out of time.

[UsagiYojimbo]

You're right! Maybe it's the portrayal by the actor. Not that I have anything against him... Chris evans? For me, I kinda of think of Cap as Marvel's Superman in a way... the sort of that guy that is so good, you can't help but like him. But the movie didn't pull that off, at least not for me.

[gobo]

Has anyone done this? Sat down and watched all the movies that lead to Avengers? I'm starting with Iron Man and then going Iron Man 2, Thor, Hulk, and finally Captain America. Since I have tonight off and tomorrow I thought it would be fun. What do you think of the order of movies, would you switch any around?
Doing that in April, one per weekend leading up to the premiere. No clue why you're doind them in that order though.

[Cowabunga Carl]

IM and IM2 are basically one movie I feel. Then doing Thor before Hulk because I view the thunder storm in Hulk as the bridge that sent Thor to earth. So I could watch either of them but I like both of those equally. And finally Captain America because it leads right into the Avengers.

[Jester]

Silly question for the guys not overly impressed with Captain America: did you guys watch The Rocketeer and if so, did you like it? I ask because they share a director and a style, not to mention a time period.

[Cowabunga Carl]

It has been years since I saw it. I was just a little kid when it came out in theaters and that was the only time I've ever seen it. I should rent it again as I remember it being a fun movie.

It's not that I don't like Captain America, more I just don't think it fits with the other Marvel Movies. As it's own film it's fun, as part of a narrative leading to a bigger story it seems lacking.

[Jester]

I can understand that. For me it was a pitch perfect WWII movie. I thought it was a fun war movie. Maybe not a superhero movie so much, but very fun.

The one I liked the least was probably Thor, but he's also the hero I know the least about. That and there were tons of secondary characters, kinda putting Thor in the background of his own movie at times. Again, good movie, just not my favorite. Love Kenneth Branagh though. Great actor/director.

[gobo]

Silly question for the guys not overly impressed with Captain America: did you guys watch The Rocketeer and if so, did you like it?
Never saw it or even wanted to.

[Jester]

Never saw it or even wanted to.
Give it a go. You may be surprised. I actually really liked it, though to be honest I only really added it to my collection because of my love of Jennifer Connelly.

[UsagiYojimbo]

Silly question for the guys not overly impressed with Captain America: did you guys watch The Rocketeer and if so, did you like it?

I enjoyed that slightly more than Cap. Cap for me is a 6/10.... the Rocketeer is a 7.

[Candy Kappa]

I've not had an Marvel Marathon, but. If you are going for an Marathon I'd guess going for the movie-verse films would make things easier, and not all of them :P

Captain America had a perfect tone for a Marvel flick. It isa superhero film, and superhero films are about men and women in tights fighting megalomaniacs in tights, no matter how serious things are.

was really happy they didn't go for the "realistic" portrayal Cap as he is on the Ultimate comics, that guy is a complete douche

[Cowabunga Carl]

I watched Iron Man last night and started Iron Man 2 but feel asleep. Just woke up and am finishing it up.

For me the best part of Captain America was the Red Skull. Weaving is just amazing as the character but I feel the end was cheap. I'm looking forward to more Skull later on in the series.

I would have liked to see Captain America more like the Ultimate Cap. Yeah he's a douche but it makes since. He is from the 40s/50s and now he is in a world that can't be more different. That would take a toll on a man I believe and his reaction and personality to me make since.

[Candy Kappa]

have to agree to disagree there. I prefer my Cap Golden/Silver age-ish.

When Ultimate Cap said it was a-okay to slaughter children, it was the final nail on the whole Ult. Universe for me

[The Stryker]

Nobody should watch Iron Man 2 again.

[Cowabunga Carl]

What book was that in? I don't remember Ultimate Cap saying it was okay to kill kids.

Iron Man 2 isn't a bad movie it's just to much of a setup for the things to come. The Whiplash story ends up taking a back seat.

[Candy Kappa]

I don't remember the title, but it was during Ultimate War, when they where capturing Xavier and the X-Men

[Cowabunga Carl]

I'll have to wait to get my copy of that from Seattle. It's in storage at the moment. I remember vaguely now what your talking about. I believe he was talking about the X-men at the time and how they were fighting back and not holding back. He was just saying to level the field or at least thats how I took it.

Watching Thor now and have to say I love the scene when Odin rescues them and then the argument they have right before Thor is banished. It is probably one of the most powerful scenes on film, more then likely because of Anthony Hopkins.

[Slap-Happy]

What are you watching next? Thor and Incredible Hulk take place around the same time.

[Cowabunga Carl]

Hulk after Thor and then Cap.

My Dad showed up at my place so I'm a little behind where I want to be. I view Thor and Hulk happening at the same time and that's why Agent Coulson isn't in Hulk.

[sdp]

I view all the Marvel superhero movies (1999-Present) taking place in one universe, and no person is going to have me believe otherwise, I'll listen to no logic.. Some slight continuity errors but for the most part they work. I guess Ultimate Spiderman will ruin it for me.

[Candy Kappa]

even both Punisher films? :P

[Cowabunga Carl]

I like the Thomas Jane Punisher film. The Directors cut of that is actually pretty good. Also dug War Zone, it wasn't as good as the first I thought though. Heck I even like the Directors Cut of Daredevil and Ghost Rider.

[Candy Kappa]

I like both Punisher films, but they are in a different continuity

[Cowabunga Carl]

I think that you can "force" them into the same continuity. It's a little tough but do able.

I think my biggest complaint with Thor is that Volstagg isn't big enough.

[gobo]

Out of curiosity, why now? Avengers isn't out 'til May, right? O_o

[Cowabunga Carl]

cause I just had the urge to do it and the time to too. I don't have much down time so I thought I'd take advantage of it.

[Candy Kappa]

Speaking of Volstagg, I almost fell of my chair when I found out he was played by the same guy playing Punisher in War Zone

I'm horrible at names but Volstagg looked like some one I had seen before, but that darn beard...

[sdp]

Yeah I force both Punisher and Hulk movies together and they both mostly work well as sequels if it wasn't for the contradicting re-telling of the origin. I think both Punisher movies are awesome and both are opposites of each other.

I hope if the Avengers is a success Fox tries to make a crossover movie with X-Men/F4/DD and Sony with Spider-Man/Ghostrider. I fail to see why they wouldn't cash-in on the cross over hype that Marvel Studios started. I guess at this point it's more likely for them to lose the rights to some of those characters and Marvel to get them back. Personally I hope it doesn't happen, it's not like Marvel would be making movies for ALL those characters at once, if different companies have them the chance of them having movies is better. I loved crazy Nic in Ghost Rider and from what I heard the second one is not too different which is good for me but bad for everyone else. I also enjoyed the DC of DD though it's the only version I've seen.

I've yet to watch Thor/Caps but I took so long that I decided might as well wait until the Avengers movie to come out to watch them all. I liked IM2, it plays it safe but it's still entertaining. I found Hulk on the other hand very boring and inferior to Ang Lee's version.

[Candy Kappa]

With First Class, it seems like marvel Studios are sneaking in and help the other studios how to make a superhero movie :lol:

[Cowabunga Carl]

First Class is by far the best movie that Fox has made with the X-men. It seemed people actually took the time to get to know the characters they had and personalities right. I'm really excited to see where they go from there.

See I love Ed Nortons Hulk as was very angry when they replaced him. But it's not this new actors fault so I'm just waiting to see what he does with Banner/Hulk.

[UsagiYojimbo]

Hulk after Thor and then Cap.

My Dad showed up at my place so I'm a little behind where I want to be. I view Thor and Hulk happening at the same time and that's why Agent Coulson isn't in Hulk.

Yeah if you watch that scene in Iron Man 2... you'll see bits of "The Hulk" having his rampage on the college campus on the TV behind Stark and Nick Fury. So I guess Hulk is simultaneous with IM2, as are some of the events in Thor. :)

[The Stryker]

Iron Man 2 isn't a bad movie it's just to much of a setup for the things to come. The Whiplash story ends up taking a back seat.

That's exactly why it IS a bad movie. It's barely a movie at all. It's just a really long and boring commercial for Avengers. Also Don Cheadle is completely flat as Rhodes.


I hope if the Avengers is a success Fox tries to make a crossover movie with X-Men/F4/DD and Sony with Spider-Man/Ghostrider. I fail to see why they wouldn't cash-in on the cross over hype that Marvel Studios started.


Why the hell would they shackle Spider-man with Ghost Rider? Besides it not making any damn sense from a thematic sense, Ghost Rider movies don't make any money. All they would be doing is hurting their Spider-man cash.

I want to hear a coherent pitch for a X-men/F4/Daredevil crossover. Seriously. I want someone to try and make sense out of that mess.

[Jephael]

I'd love to see Spidey team up with Captain America and/or Iron Man!

[UsagiYojimbo]

Also Don Cheadle is completely flat as Rhodes.


Yeah he should've been great.

[Candy Kappa]

I'd love to see Spidey team up with Captain America and/or Iron Man!

I don't think we've ever got a Lucky Jim reference in the Cap movie, so unless Marvel Studious get back Spider-Man I highly doubt we will ever see that in Live-Action form

[sdp]

Well before I saw the Avengers I marathoned IM2/TIH/CA/Thor and even X-Men 1st class since I hadn't seen it and i was in a Marvel mood. I didn't have a lot of time and well IM doesn't set up the Avengers that much besides the 1 minute secret ending.

I still enjoy IM2 even if it's more of the same from the first movie. TIH I enjoyed more this time, I still think the first Hulk film is better but I liked it more, not too crazy about how the Hulk is here, I'd love to see a new Hulk movie with the way he is portrayed in the Avengers, though I don't like their Banner as much. Captain America was not bad, but not an amazing film, I kind of expected a bit more but I guess overall it worked, I remember hearing and not just a rumor that we'd see the Defenders (The submariner and the first human torch) but I guess that wasn't true. Overall an alright superhero movie. Thor I wasn't looking forward to much and I enjoyed it more than Captain America. Neither of those films were a second "Iron Man" to really give much of a reason to watch Avengers though. I still feel that it's Iron Man alone that is carrying most of the hype for the movie, I also feel the secret endings got worse with each movie culminating with Captain America just having a trailer for the Avengers instead of a real secret ending. Finally I saw First class which was actually the Marvel movie I was looking forward the most last year and wow it totally surprised me, it's not only the best Marvel movie from last year and the best X-Men movie but I also enjoyed it much more than the Avengers, can't wait for a sequel though it works fine stand alone.

That's exactly why it IS a bad movie. It's barely a movie at all. It's just a really long and boring commercial for Avengers. Also Don Cheadle is completely flat as Rhodes.
I keep hearing people say this online but I really don't see it this way, I actually really like it and don't see it as a commercial to the Avengers, it works fine as a story.


Why the hell would they shackle Spider-man with Ghost Rider? Besides it not making any damn sense from a thematic sense, Ghost Rider movies don't make any money. All they would be doing is hurting their Spider-man cash.

I want to hear a coherent pitch for a X-men/F4/Daredevil crossover. Seriously. I want someone to try and make sense out of that mess.

Why would they do that? because of $$$, if the Avengers is a hit then they'll want a piece of that crossover goodness. How can you get them meeting up in a story make any sense, well I guess you can say the same about the Avengers, no matter how much they tried to set it up in the other movies it still felt somewhat forced in the actual movie, and a generic threat of alien attack was all it needed for it to happen, no reason why Fox or Sony might not want to try their take on it.

[Slap-Happy]

Why would they do that? because of $$$, if the Avengers is a hit then they'll want a piece of that crossover goodness.
A Daredevil, X-Men, and Fantastic Four crossover makes no sense.

The X-Men and FF movies are all on a "global" scale. The entire planet is at risk, so they could possibly team up to fight against SOMETHING. Daredevil is the opposite of that. It's all in one city and doesn't leave. There aren't the same stakes.

And why the hell would Sony put Spider-Man and Ghost Rider in the same movie? Spirit if Vengance was critically panned, and unsucsessful. Not to mention that ASM could go either way for them. I doubt that it won't be successful, but still.

How can you get them meeting up in a story make any sense, well I guess you can say the same about the Avengers, no matter how much they tried to set it up in the other movies it still felt somewhat forced in the actual movie, and a generic threat of alien attack was all it needed for it to happen, no reason why Fox or Sony might not want to try their take on it.

The Avengers worked in the comics, and was explained well enough in all of the Marvel Studios films. It makes more sense than any of the other options of yours.

[GK Punk]

That's exactly why it IS a bad movie. It's barely a movie at all. It's just a really long and boring commercial for Avengers. Also Don Cheadle is completely flat as Rhodes.


That is exactly my problem with Iron Man 2. It was okay as an action flick and all that, but as far as story goes it really was just "Hey guys, Avengers coming soon!" More than anything to me. I loved the first Iron Man but the second is really disappointing to me.