Do you ever get the feeling we're all a little over-sensetive?

[Jephael]

Sometimes I think we take the TMNT and other things too seriously. No matter where I go in this community, whether it be here on the forums or the Facebook group I see people spazzing out over little things like casual fans who get the Turtles' names wrong or their colors mixed up and different factions of the fandom who like certain iterations over others.

I really enjoy these forums but the way people act can really get to me. For awhile I tried to distance myself from all that drama by reminding myself the Ninja Turtles are just fictional characters, but then I realized that wasn't the right mentality. If anything reminding myself that they don't exist depressed me even more because it made me feel like I had just been wasting my life on them, and I don't want to think like that anymore.

Now don't get me wrong, I love a good debate, but far too often these debates turn into arguments. Does anyone have an idea how we could ease the tension around here a little more and show one another a little more respect?

[ZariusTwo]

I often don't get the logic of cretins who come to a forum called "The Technodrome" and spurt rubbish like "I need to down a bottle of whisky just to stand the Fred Wolf 'Toon"...almost as if said cretin doesnt understand he's on a forum that celebrates the old show as much as it celebrates ALL aspects of the franchise. Said cretin comes off as a "too cool for school" troll looking for a reaction.

If they don't have anything complimentary to say about the old show, they should keep their bitter opinions of it to themselves, as it contributes jack all to a discussion

[gobo]

Do you ever get the feeling we're all a little over-sensetive?
Nope. Just a few.

[Killer Moth]

I now try to take fandom and my own approach to said fandom not as seriously as I used to. When in doubt, say the MST3K mantra, "it's only a ____, so I should just relax."

Several years ago, however, a good friend did talk smack about the OT, and I got defensive. These days, I acknowledge its faults, and I certainly enjoy it anyway. Same with the other Turtle media, as each one has its strengths and weaknesses. Anything else, life is too short for such nonsense.

For a more instructive-yet-negative example, whenever we reach "House" or "Supernatural" levels of wankery, then be worried.

http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/

This site covers fandom wank, great and small, and my greatest desire is not to be on it. You'll see why.

Introspection is a good thing, especially before the Nicktoon is made public. Who knows how any of us will act? Some will act nonchalant, others more excited and everything in-between. That's how fandom works.

[Logan]

I really don't think it's that bad here. I've been on forums where things are far, far worse. With the exception of maybe two or three people on here, I've found this forum to be pretty chill.

[Jester]

Hey, shut up, Gobo!

Wait...you might not have been taking about me...um...sorry.

:P

[pannoni1]

Jester, Andrew NDB, and gobo are perhaps the worst offenders to making us over-sensitive (no disrespect), but I mainly post only when its worthwhile and adds insight. I came here to be informed and make valid arguments, not to BS over an issue that turns threads off-topic. That's why we have Forum Games for the over-sensitiveness. Try to spend some time away from this board and spend more on TMNT-L, Mikey's TMNT, and other sites to take time to see what's going on, and most importantly, get off of here and watch and enjoy and relax!

[Powder]

Not quite sure you know what over-sensitive means, Pannoni.

[Jester]

Sh....quiet Powder or you'll make "The List."

Then again, it's a fun list. We have cake.

[ToTheNines]

I'm pretty mad I didn't make the list.

[Jester]

I'm pretty mad I didn't make the list.
Just post inane ramblings that contribute nothing to the thread at hand, and welcome to the club.

In all seriousness, I'd say just "take a break" but that doesn't even always work. People on this forum take the Turtles as seriously as Star Trek and Star Wars fans take their fandoms, and when people feel strongly about something, there will be strong opinions, one way or the other, and thus arguments. Sometimes the only way to defuse it is to just ignore a thread until the furor dies down a bit. Never post angry. Give yourself time to compose yourself, and it'll help a lot.

[cryan]

Yeah,the way I feel about the OT.Just put your brain in another room and enjoy.I like the OT because it didn't take itself seriously.Also,every fandom has its "really devoted fans".If it's the comic guys or what ever.Star Wars and Star Trek are great examples.

[CyberCubed]

I have tears in my eyes every time I watch the original cartoon.

[gobo]

I have tears in my eyes every time I watch the original cartoon.
Don't be scared. The Shredder won't get you.

[Jester]

Don't be scared. The Shredder won't get you.
I dunna... I had some wicked nightmares when I was a kid regarding being chased around the sewer by Shredder... no Turtles in sight.

[Archon_Turtle]

Sometimes I think we take the TMNT and other things too seriously. No matter where I go in this community, whether it be here on the forums or the Facebook group I see people spazzing out over little things like casual fans who get the Turtles' names wrong or their colors mixed up and different factions of the fandom who like certain iterations over others.

I really enjoy these forums but the way people act can really get to me. For awhile I tried to distance myself from all that drama by reminding myself the Ninja Turtles are just fictional characters, but then I realized that wasn't the right mentality. If anything reminding myself that they don't exist depressed me even more because it made me feel like I had just been wasting my life on them, and I don't want to think like that anymore.

Now don't get me wrong, I love a good debate, but far too often these debates turn into arguments. Does anyone have an idea how we could ease the tension around here a little more and show one another a little more respect?

Not to pick on you Jeff... But having seen you reactions to a lot of these instances on the facebook group...I'm kind of inclined to say that you often read far too much into things and perceive a lot of what people say as more severe than it actually is.

For one thing, the facebook group is SUPPOSED to be the way it is. It is unofficial for a reason. Completely un-moderated. We get to say whatever the **** we like without worrying about being policed. It's awesome. We like it that way. Hooray for free speech!

Secondly. This is all text. So it is often impossible to really discern how people really feel about something or how angry they really are based on how they type.

Third. The internets makes people brave because of the lack of accountability. 99% of the assholes we get trolling in here don't actually go out on the street and start **** with folks in real life. Powder has "Death to Casuals" as his custom title. Do you think he actually goes out and threatens people with death in the real world? Probably not...as it's a felony.

So do I think some of use are too sensitive? No. Not really. Aside from maybe a few extreme cases.

Do I think some people perceive it as such? Apparently they do. Otherwise this thread wouldn't exist.

[Donnie]

I'm just gonna flat out say that people who don't know sh*t about the franchise and then flap their gums like they own the place piss me off and I desire strongly to punch them square in the jaw. And I'm a peace loving dude, for the most part. Powder's way more aggressively spoken than me (and I think he'd agree), but he and I almost always agree on how to deal with "casuals"...hehe.

I do take Turtles seriously and do go overboard at times...you're gonna find people being over sensitive all the time wherever you go in real life at the work place or school, on a forum, whatever. People (myself included) are always going to get defensive over one thing or another. I think it's just humanity, dude. :)

[Ninja_Shoe_Repair]

I think it's all fun and good banter but there are a few such as Powder and Rose that often have more negative than positive things to say. I'm sure I'm not the only one to think it. Just saying.

[Jester]

And then there's that one guy...

Seriously, is pointing fingers at the "Downer Dromers" really going to do any good?

[gobo]

the facebook group is SUPPOSED to be the way it is. It is unofficial for a reason. Completely un-moderated. We get to say whatever the **** we like without worrying about being policed.
So, a wannabe board-cop didn't ban Purdie w/o warning? I'll be danged... I quit you guys for nothing!

[Archon_Turtle]

So, a wannabe board-cop didn't ban Purdie w/o warning? I'll be danged... I quit you guys for nothing!

Was that the guy that posted stuff so nonsensical that I constantly thought he was having a stroke?

The same guy that didn't even have a technodrome account as I recall?

I'm gonna go ahead and say that removing someone from a group that is exclusively for Technodrome members (it says so in the title), who are not technodrome members is just good housekeeping.

[Jester]

Was that the guy that posted stuff so nonsensical that I constantly thought he was having a stroke?
Maybe... Interesting way of putting it.

Jester likes Jester's post that Jester made in jest.

[Donnie]

The same guy that didn't even have a technodrome account as I recall?


He made an account cause everyone got on him for not having one, but as I recall he never posted.

[The Stryker]

The Facebook group is un moderated. Yeah ok. Unless someone disagrees with the people that 'aren't' in charge.

Pannoni is a weirdo but he's not completely off-base here.

[gobo]

I'm gonna go ahead and say that removing someone from a group that is exclusively for Technodrome members (it says so in the title), who are not technodrome members is just good housekeeping.
So, you agree with banning him shortly after he signed up to the forums? Man, I thought you were supposed to be one of the good guys.

[MikeandRaph87]

If anything we just need to respect each others preferences in fandom and realize despite different taste its the same franchise. Let and let live and respect comes a long way. Its room enough for everyone to enjoy and this can be a great place to hang. We just should not get on each other because of different options. We are all TMNT fans nonetheless just we let things get to us from time to time. Its just being human. We each bring different things to the table and that is what makes The Technodrome great. Besides if we were all alike it would pretty dull.

[KROW]

When in doubt, say the MST3K mantra, "it's only a ____, so I should just relax."

That's right; rev up your disc player, eat some pizza, put on a smile, and enjoy yourself, dammit.

[Archon_Turtle]

The Facebook group is un moderated. Yeah ok. Unless someone disagrees with the people that 'aren't' in charge.

Pannoni is a weirdo but he's not completely off-base here.

Maybe I'm just not active enough on the facebook group to know what you guys are talking about in this case.

The moderated level of the facebook group wasnt my point so much as that people say whatever they want there because that is what it's for. Kinda like the rule of thumb for the video game section. It's a "rough and tumble" place over there because it is supposed to be.

So, you agree with banning him shortly after he signed up to the forums? Man, I thought you were supposed to be one of the good guys.

I'm going to include this in my above statement. I wasn't there. This was the first I'd heard of him being banned. Edit: Though I will say I was growing mighty tired of him posting "TURTLE POWER" every few hours.

Edit: I'm also a little bothered that you think that should my opinion on a topic conflict with yours, I would suddenly not be "one of the good guys"

[Killer Moth]

Secondly. This is all text. So it is often impossible to really discern how people really feel about something or how angry they really are based on how they type.

Third. The internets makes people brave because of the lack of accountability. 99% of the assholes we get trolling in here don't actually go out on the street and start **** with folks in real life. Powder has "Death to Casuals" as his custom title. Do you think he actually goes out and threatens people with death in the real world? Probably not...as it's a felony.

So do I think some of use are too sensitive? No. Not really. Aside from maybe a few extreme cases.

Do I think some people perceive it as such? Apparently they do. Otherwise this thread wouldn't exist.

"This," as the kids say. I've often got into my share of wank and lulz, because of text issues. It's not anyone's fault, per se, but that's how text is without the tone of voice or inflection or things we take for granted in conversation. It takes years of practice to figure that out, and, yes, one often learns the hard way. And then, there are cases where expressing emotions properly is a challenge, with or without text. (This was me, until a few years ago.)

Although, in one vicious case, I did come across someone who wanted to be offended. It got nasty, and it was my fault for not seeing how dark it become. What's the expression -- hindsight is 20/20?

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/3/19/

To sum up your third point, via the geniuses of Penny Arcade.

Meanwhile, there are some topics where it's going to evoke a flamewar. To evoke MST3K again, don't mention "Mike Vs. Joel." Things are far more mellow, these days, yet one can't ignore the great Mike v. Joel flame war in '93. I haven't been around this forum or the fandom to fully know what the Turtle equivalent is, but it is something to be mindful of.

I treat everything like I do with the shippers -- don't mock my pairing, and I won't mock yours. Same with the various Turtle media, as my preference is not yours and etc.

Edit: Exactly, KROW. Life would be a lot simpler if more people would adhere to that.

[Avatar Yuffie]

Welcome to the fandom. :p

Always bring protection.

And take comfort there are WORSE FANDOMS OUT THERE in the internet. The Sonic fans for example (you think fans nitpicking the bandannas are bad? Try Sonic fans' fanrage over his shoes). I'm just glad TMNT is technically sane than most.

Anyways, just take opinions with a pinch of salt and try not to let some fans bug you.

[mysterycolor]

i think that some people are overly sensitive about how sensitive other people are... a lot of "casuals" jokes- are simply that JOKES not some serious burst of anger that ruins the entire day... and as Archon said, or FB page was made so that we would have a less formal place to chit-chat and even vent... but none of it is ever a big deal... unless i am totally missing something...

[Powder]

This thread should be locked.

[Fugitoid Jones]

Secondly. This is all text. So it is often impossible to really discern how people really feel about something or how angry they really are based on how they type.



This is so true. I learned this the hard way, I was being sarcastic to a potential girlfriend through txt msg, and she got offended. Needless to say, that was the beginning of the end for us :(

This thread should be locked.

...and loaded! :tlol:


About Purdie getting removed from the FB group, was it right or wrong? I don't know the specifics or whatever, but I will agree with Archon, it got real damn old seeing "Turtle Power!" or "Raph is the best turtle of them all bo", posts with no substance or meaning every couple hours. Look, Purdie is a nice guy, but maybe that wasn't the place for him. And if he doesn't post here, then I guess this isn't the place for him either.



And maybe some people are overly sensitive, but I think that just gets mistaken for passion sometimes. If you are passionate or really care about something, you obviously are going to get defensive about an opinion or whatever the case may be.

[Jester]

And maybe some people are overly sensitive, but I think that just gets mistaken for passion sometimes. If you are passionate or really care about something, you obviously are going to get defensive about an opinion or whatever the case may be.
This right here. People get bent out of shape when people either don't share their passion for one thing or another, or someone seems to be taking advantage of the fans on this forum to make a quick buck.

I'll admit, the other day I made my feelings known elsewhere about the recent influx of people who flat out said they were only here to unload their stuff, or get the last things they needed to finish their collections. Not to talk "shop," not to discuss the latest news, just to use the forum as a glorified eBay. Rubbed me the wrong way. Seemed like they were just using us (OK, not me so much, but other people here.)

[juxtapose519]

Of all the fandoms in all of history, the TMNT fandom is pretty tame. I'd say it's the internet more than anything. Anonymity makes people say dumb crap.

[gobo]

O_o YOU'RE tame. :x

[Jester]

O_o YOU'RE tame. :x
Your mom!!

[mysterycolor]

I'll admit, the other day I made my feelings known elsewhere about the recent influx of people who flat out said they were only here to unload their stuff, or get the last things they needed to finish their collections. Not to talk "shop," not to discuss the latest news, just to use the forum as a glorified eBay. Rubbed me the wrong way. Seemed like they were just using us (OK, not me so much, but other people here.)

oh... so you are the cause of all of this! quit the complaining jesty! ;)


This is so true. I learned this the hard way, I was being sarcastic to a potential girlfriend through txt msg, and she got offended. Needless to say, that was the beginning of the end for us :(
.

that is such a bummer!

[Shredder]

This thread should be locked.

Agreed. ;)