Marvel or DC?

[Tokka-B]

Which universe do you like better?

[GK Punk]

DC personally, but I do like the marvel universe as well... I mean both have such great characters it's almost too hard to pick one.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

You should have a "They both rock" option.

[Leo656]

DC all the way. I prefer Marvel's movies to their comics, they're a lot less convoluted.

[JCTango]

Marvel's universe just seems more vibrant to me =( :)

PS: I think you should've put Image up there too...

[Kid Icarus]

Marvel, but i really can't say becuase I haven't read either companies comics.

I like x-men, spiderman, and.. *thinks*... thats about all i like from marvel.

I like green lantern... and thats about it from DC (what does DC stand for anyway? something comics?)

so yeah. 2-1. lol.

[That Matt Guy]

I like both. I mean DC has got the classics like Batman and Superman while Marvel has bad asses like Spider-Man and Thor.

[Casey Jones]

Dark Horse.

actually, i picked Marvel. Marvel's characters interest me more, in general. DC has some cool characters(and oftentimes better writing), but there are more Marvel books i'd be tempted to pick up if i were comic shopping.

[Caster_Troy]

Marvel. It has my favorite comic (Deadpool - now Agent X) Plus it had Todd Mcfarlane's Spiderman for which there has never been and will never be an equal.

The only thing I really like about DC is the Joker and most of their storylines tend to apeal more to an adult audiance where as most of the mainstream Marvel comics tend to be written for the average 15 year old.

[cqb101]

Marvel all the way. IMO they have better characters.

[Barkworm]

I lost my interest in both because I love good endings and there is no way great characters like Batman, Spider-Man or Wolverine will ever get an ending. The storys just go on and on and on... I still buy single books though.

[Karpo_007]

Marvel, I donät like DC comics, but they have had nice cartoons Like Batman TAS/Beyond and JLA.

[Knuckles]

Definititely DC. I have always liked DC more than Marvel ever since I was a kid. In fact, when I was a kid, I loved DC and hated Marvel. Now I still don't read Marvel or care much about it, but I don't hate it like I did. For me, DC has the greatest of the greats--Batman--and that's enough for me to like it the best. I also like the related Bat-books such as Nightwing and Robin. DC just has more appeal to me--I find DC characters a lot more interesting and realistic than Marvel ones. Marvel seems too mutant-happy at times, and I'm not a big fan of a lot of their origin stories. You can tell me Spider-man is as great as you want...but c'mon, a radioactive spider? I know the movie altered that a little so it wasn't quite so ridiculous, but still. DC uses a lot of alien origins, that way it's still within the realm of possibility, because who knows what aliens could do? I mean, it's theoretically possible for some alien being to look like a human, but have a chemical makeup such that they would gain incredible physical abilities and powers when exposed to Earth's yellow sun. It's theoretically possible that there exists a vast order of guardians and heroes called the Green Lantern Corps, which have developed rings capable of giving their owners amazing powers. But for a radioactive spider to bite someone, thus granting them spider-like abilities...I just don't see it happening.

[Shellfox]

Gotta go with Marvel sinply because of the What If line and now the Exiles

[Karpo_007]

Mutations do happen every day, So a big mutations like that are as if not even more possible than your alien theories. Just saying DC's Aliens are more realistic Than Marvel's mutants doesn't sound to rational to me.

Now Batman is somewhat a realistic character, and possibly the best DC has.

[Caster_Troy]

.... ... DC just has more appeal to me--I find DC characters a lot more interesting and realistic than Marvel ones. Marvel seems too mutant-happy at times, and I'm not a big fan of a lot of their origin stories. You can tell me Spider-man is as great as you want...but c'mon, a radioactive spider? I know the movie altered that a little so it wasn't quite so ridiculous, but still. DC uses a lot of alien origins, that way it's still within the realm of possibility, because who knows what aliens could do? I mean, it's theoretically possible for some alien being to look like a human, but have a chemical makeup such that they would gain incredible physical abilities and powers when exposed to Earth's yellow sun. It's theoretically possible that there exists a vast order of guardians and heroes called the Green Lantern Corps, which have developed rings capable of giving their owners amazing powers. But for a radioactive spider to bite someone, thus granting them spider-like abilities...I just don't see it happening.


lol, dude you have really thought this one out.
I agree that some of the things done by Marvel are far fetched (a radio active spider giving someone super powers, for example) but if you want to go by that rational then four baby turtles living in the sewer, getting transformed into human/turtle hybrids from a green, chemical ooze is pretty much impossible too.
If you want something remotely real, the X-men are a possibility. A genetic mutation taking the form of super-human powers and deformities is not all that far off the mark. Even in our reality, there is mutant genetic malformation that exists both in the physical sense (being born with a 6th toe, a missing arm, or a missing organ to name a few), as well as in the mental sense (ESP and mild telekinesis).
The only thing that is not as realistic is that fact that normally -- in the Marvel universe -- most mutants do not discover their powers until they reach puberty. However, some are born with their powers.
There are also comics like Deadpool that have a semblance of realism to them. The main character was just a normal mercenary who was diagnosed with cancer, went crazy, got a radical treatment to try to get rid of the cancer, and ended up getting horribly scarred and a nasty skin condition. He also acquired a healing factor from the treatments (meaning he heals really, really fast) and he ages slower then average, but he can still be killed, and is otherwise, physically normal. He just kills people for money.
Even the Hulk can be realistic-ish if you look at it. In the Hulk origin story in the 60s Bruce Banner is the creator of the gamma bomb. They start the countdown and Rick Jones drives onto the test site. Banner runs onto the test site and hurls Jones aside but is caught in the blast. The gamma radiation causes him to get huge muscles, turn green and lose his mind.

This is getting really long, so I’ll wrap it up, but it all just depends on how you look at what is realistic. And I still stand by the fact that what Todd Mcfarlane did with Spiderman (especially art wise) is legendary and some of... if not the best stuff that has ever been put out there.

[Tokka-B]

Very interesting points being made...

Have any of you ever read the Marvel Vs DC/ DC Vs Marvel series?
I have heard that the story is horribly written and they rush through everything in 4 books, I might still get it though, not sure...

[Barkworm]

I read it! The story was just usual crossover-crap but some of the fights were darn cool, especially Superman vs. Hulk.

[Karpo_007]

I read that to. The story made no sense, at one point the two universes merged together... I can't say I liked it.

[Barkworm]

Claudio Castellini's artwork was pretty cool, I loved his Batman and his Silver Surfer.

[Tokka-B]

Yea, it is freaky...that series spawned the Amalgam Universe and characters were merged.... Maybe they should have made the DC vs Marvel thing a 12 maxi series to say the least...I mean they fight against their own villains in battles that can last many books.

[Leo656]

I thought Jurgens' art in those books was way better. It seemed like he could draw both the DC and Marvel characters well but Castellini only did a good job on the Marvel characters, I didn't like some of his DC guys at all.

And yeah, the story sucked. They made the big mistake of asking the fans to vote to determine who would win the fights, and the fans of course voted for who they WANTED to win, not who WOULD win.

The biggest farce was Lobo vs. Wolverine. Wolverine is cool and all, and I know he's like the most popular character ever, yadda yadda yadda, but he plain and simply COULD NOT beat Lobo in a fight. For those who don't know anything about Lobo, he's the last living creature from a planet called Czarnia. Why is he the last? Because he single-handedly murdered every other living being on the planet just so he could be unique. He makes a living as a bounty hunter travelling from planet to planet killing people in the most impossibly grotesque ways possible. He almost beat Superman to death with his bare hands. He's completely invulnerable, and in the unlikely event that he ever be killed, each drop of his blood mutates into a brand new body for himself. Point blank, Wolverine could not beat him.

But he did. So meh. That's all I have to say about the DC vs Marvel books. "Meh."

And the fact that Marvel WAS at one point associated with Todd McFarlane means that they automatically concede defeat to DC. Any company that would have anything to do with Todd McFarlane is fundamentally flawed.

[Barkworm]

Leo, did you read the Lobo X-Mas-Special where he fought Santa Claus? Or the other Bisley-drawn storys? That was (explicit) fun? :lol:

[Leo656]

I confess to not having too much Lobo, but my girlfriend has like every Lobo comic ever, including the one where he goes after Santa Claus. I liked "Contract On Gawd" and "UnAmerican Gladiators".

[Caster_Troy]

Leo -- tell me you did not just diss the Todd.

[Leo656]

He's "The" Todd now? Yeesh, I gotta hire this guy's publicist...

And yeah, I did, and I'd do it again. In fact, I will, eventually. There's a ton of reasons why I'm not a fan of his. Mainly because Spawn was the most over-hyped non-substance book ever to the point where even Todd himself got bored with it after like 20 issues. Does he even do anything with that book anymore besides cash checks from it? Just asking.

[Caster_Troy]

well i agree with the spawn thing... it was a true piece of crap, but its not exactly the Todd's fault... he gave the fans what they wanted... and i'm sure if you could do it you would.

[Barkworm]

I think Spawn could have been cool but Todd is that kind of author who has a lot of ideas but can't realize even ONE of those properly. I'm not very fond of his artwork either (but I love Capullos work, he's like the better McFarlane :D ).

[Caster_Troy]

puh... I say long live the Todd... to be able to write, draw, ink and come up with storylines is a feat within itself, but to make millions doing it, boo-yah!

[Tokka-B]

Yea, that is true, they did let the fans pick the winners....They could and probly will make a DC vs Marvel II or something sometime in the future, hopefully then it will be more than 4 issues and not be lost in what actually happened, just knowing who won is not good enough..

[GK Punk]

Yea, that is true, they did let the fans pick the winners....They could and probly will make a DC vs Marvel II or something sometime in the future, hopefully then it will be more than 4 issues and not be lost in what actually happened, just knowing who won is not good enough..

I think they should do a whole years worth of that as a crossover for it to work properly... like have it running through all the books

[Caster_Troy]

yeah some storyline would be good.

[Tokka-B]

Nah, I think it would have to be seperate, or else it would interlude in series and change future events that would never have happened. It should really be it's own series, and it would have to be pretty damn long....lol

[Knuckles]

I wasn't trying to say everything Marvel is unrealistic, but the types of mutations that characters like the X-men have seem very, very unlikey, to the point where we can reasonably determine that there's little chance of it happening. But since we know so little about the outside universe, we really can't reliably determine DC-type alien origins as having little chance of happening. We might think we can, but we don't know, because we really don't know anything about what different alien species/civilizations might be capable of. I was saying using alien origins gives you so much more to work with, and less improbablilities. Plus I just think of Marvel as having goofier characters sometimes. The types of powers and gimmicks, (as a whole) seem less serious. I take a character like Batman much more seriously. So I guess my tastes are more toward the serious nature nowadays. TMNT being an exception, because even though the comics are serious a lot of times, the very concept of TMNT was intentionally ludicrous. Eastman/Laird took a zany concept and treated it seriously. And I don't read TMNT for its realism, in case anyone wonders.

[Caster_Troy]

i agree with you in the fact that marvel normally is not as serious or as dark as DC, or even Image for that matter, they are a bit more... for lack of a better word... fun. And as I said before, DC does cater to more of the adult readers.

[Tokka-B]

I think Image is much more dark than either...I tend to shy away from Image comics though....Spawn was good in like the first 15 issues or whatever, but then sucked...

[Raven]

I really like image because its the rebal company!!!!!!!!
also because they own top cow!!
witchblade owns dude

but if you made me choose I couldnt because I really like batman
and spiderman

hhhhhhhmmmmmmm need to think hard

[Shellfox]

There best work is when they cross over, Yes I liked Marvel vs DC and the Almagan books (metal Men, Dark Claw and JLX are geart), but most of the others are priceless.

2 of the best have got to be Batman and Spider-man vs Joker and Carnage and Team 7/Weapon X. But I can't wait till JLA/Avengers

[cqb101]

JLA/Avengers is gonna kick ass. When is it commin out?

[Tokka-B]

Yea, any other secret wars coming out?

[impetus]

CrossGen :D

I would have to go with Marvel over DC until DC puts out something remotely close to Marvels "Essentials" series

[Tokka-B]

That is the problem with DC, their main focus is on the character's personal series, and they don't have many DC universe-type series, which have been a success for Marvel so far...

[HorseTechie]

I don't like either. But that's cause I like indepedent comic publishers like Mirage. Dark Horse and Dreamwave are very cool too.

[impetus]

gotta say Dreamwave is prolly the hot new publisher - hopefully it lasts.

[Tokka-B]

That's the problem with independent publishers, you don't know if they will last long...with Marvel and DC, you know they will last a long time..

[HorseTechie]

So then I go find anothah! But you have to admit, Mirage refuses to die (even though Laird's new comic is actually published at Zeromayo).