Do you think Baxter Stockman should not have any connections with the Shredder?

[TurtleTitan97]

If Stockman appears in the new movie, do you prefer him to be a villian of his own or continue working for the Shredder?

[ToTheNines]

He should definitely work for Shredder. Here's my idea of how it could work that I posted in another thread a little while back.

Who says he can't work for Shredder and still be the lead villain of the movie? If you were to edit season one of the 4kids show into a series of movies, their first battle with the Shredder wouldn't be until the second or third "movie".

My idea would be like this: Baxter's working for Shredder, using his Mousers to rob banks and whatever. Mousers serendipitously find the Turtles lair, they fight and the Turtles escape. Baxter, being a scientist, sees the footage and becomes obsessed with finding these mutants, but Shredder thinks he's wasting his time and Shredder's own money.

Of course Baxter ignores him and keeps looking, and the Turtles are on the run for mostly the whole movie. Throw in some Purple Dragon brawls Casey/Raph style, some sweet Mouser battles, an April O'neil rescue, some ominous dialogue from Saki and finally a take down of Stockman's lab, which culminates in a huge battle against some Foot Ninja who show up when Stockman alerts them.

The Turtles win of course, and when they go to tell Splinter that they had battled Foot Ninja, he tells them even though their training is not complete, their confrontation with Oroku Saki is near.

Epilogue scene would have Baxter begging for forgiveness to Shredder (who is offscreen), and then Shredder, in full-armor, tells Baxter "I told you so" the only way he knows how *slice*. Shredder then looks to his Elite guard, letting them know that these freaks must pay for slaying their fellow clan members. Roll credits.

Granted, that'd probably be boring since it's that same thing as the 4kids storyline pretty much. But it'd set up a wicked sequel at least.

[Donnie]

Cool question, and a welcomed break from the Bay sh*t...

I think Baxter working without the Shredder like in Mirage would be ideal, at least for me. The badass rogue mad-scientist villain always appealed to me as a pretty interesting rivalry between protagonists.