The Mona Lisa appreciation thread [Archive]

Killer Moth

04-05-2012, 03:05 PM

She also had an awesome or smexy voice, too. I usually don't buy the "give the Turtles a love interest," but her, I could see a feasible relationship for Raph (or failing that, ithere is Don to be with, as she was a scientist, right?).

It's an interesting catch-22 with her, as "Sons of the Silent Age" demonstrated why there shouldn't no female Turtles, yet she obviously gave a great first impression and most of the fandom really dug her, despite the edict. I almost feel guility, as "yes, I should honor and respect Eastman and Laird's stance on the matter, but Mona Lisa has lots of potential, so why waste such a good character opportunity?"

There is a fanart of her on a blind date with a drunken Slash floating out there. I got to go find that.

Edit: Here it is:

http://tigerfog.deviantart.com/art/Archie-TMNT-Blind-Date-FAIL-132789077

And for fun, here is a piece of her fighting some Foot Soldiers:

http://lavioletta.deviantart.com/art/Mona-Lisa-on-the-Loose-276476322

gobo

04-05-2012, 05:45 PM

Woulda been more amusing if she was Leo's love-interest... for some reason. :tshifty:

MikeandRaph87

04-05-2012, 05:50 PM

I am in the camp of only four male turtles and that is it. Its just them. Never cared for seeing the turtles romance anyone either yet Mona Lisa just seemed to click with Raphael and was a genuinely likable character despite just being a one apperance character in one incanration and a toy and that is it. I like her as a salamander instead of the female turtle she could have been. While a salamander is close yet not a turtle it just works and can't explain it.

cryan

04-05-2012, 06:38 PM

To a certain degree I am glad Eastman and Laird put thier foot down with Mona Lisa not being a female turtle.As one poster said,that is what made me order season 4 on DVD.Mona Lisa is in my mind a very memorable character.

oldmanwinters

04-05-2012, 06:50 PM

cryan

04-05-2012, 07:02 PM

It surprises me that Mona Lisa didn't make into the Archie series.

MikeandRaph87

04-05-2012, 07:10 PM

It surprises me that Mona Lisa didn't make into the Archie series.

It would have been better to have her in Ninjara's place. Just think if Mona learned a little marital arts beyond the basics she seemed to have down.

Jester

04-05-2012, 07:11 PM

It surprises me that Mona Lisa didn't make into the Archie series.
Agreed, she'd have made a great Mutanimal...I mean, there were exactly 0 female Mutanimals.

CyberCubed

04-05-2012, 07:15 PM

Agreed, she'd have made a great Mutanimal...I mean, there were exactly 0 female Mutanimals.

Probably the same reason Napoleon Bonafrog didn't join the Mutanimals, he opted to create two all new characters such as Jaguar and Dreadmon instead.

Jester

04-05-2012, 07:28 PM

Probably the same reason Napoleon Bonafrog didn't join the Mutanimals, he opted to create two all new characters such as Jaguar and Dreadmon instead.
Why would Napoleon Bonafrog, a member of a group of 4 frogs, be singled out to join the Mutanimals?

CyberCubed

04-05-2012, 07:30 PM

Why would Napoleon Bonafrog, a member of a group of 4 frogs, be singled out to join the Mutanimals?

Because the other 3 weren't as important or popular.

Jester

04-05-2012, 07:33 PM

Because the other 3 weren't as important or popular.
Are we going by the fact that Napoleon is the one Punk Frog that has the most appearances in the FW series? because if that's you're only proof of how much more popular he was, it's sorely lacking.

MikeandRaph87

04-05-2012, 07:38 PM

Are we going by the fact that Napoleon is the one Punk Frog that has the most appearances in the FW series? because if that's you're only proof of how much more popular he was, it's sorely lacking.

I agree here. I thought that perhaps Genhis being the leader was a little more exposed. He did have a figure just like Napoleon and while Napolen's figure was oddly not like the character in appearance Genhis's was. Genhis Frog also was in the Subterrean Sewer Hockey alonside Casey Jones and the turtles. If I had to guess it would be Genhis was more exposed and ppular by a little yet that is just individual speculation and I admit I liked Genhis a little more of them all. Still there is no evidence that one was more popular than the other. They were cool and I hope the Punk Frogs come back sometime.

tmnt transformer

04-05-2012, 07:55 PM

Mona Lisa must be brave for liking Raph.

gobo

04-05-2012, 08:01 PM

Why would Napoleon Bonafrog, a member of a group of 4 frogs, be singled out to join the Mutanimals?
Cuz he was Mona Lisa's brother. Duh!

Jester

04-05-2012, 08:16 PM

Cuz he was Mona Lisa's brother. Duh!
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sdp

04-05-2012, 08:17 PM

She was an interesting character and I liked her, I wonder why she never got a second appearance and yet other filler worthy characters did.

MikeandRaph87

04-05-2012, 08:23 PM

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That is like saying that Danny Devito and Arnold Schwarzenegger are twins and have a triplet in Eddie Murphy.Oh wait... :trazz:

ngroove

04-05-2012, 09:24 PM

She was an interesting character and I liked her, I wonder why she never got a second appearance and yet other filler worthy characters did.

Yeah, kinda suspends belief, for instance, an arcade avatar like Tempestra, actually making episode appearance no. 2, before others.

sdp

04-05-2012, 09:35 PM

ugh, tempestra was such a lame villain why not bring anyone else. Not to mention it made no sense for her to appear again, the TMNT had many other rogues they could've chosen.

CyberCubed

04-05-2012, 09:56 PM

Tempestra was a popular villain. Also most hero mutants don't return.

We never saw Mutagen Man, or Muckman Joeeyeball get a second episode. Nor did we see the return of Wingnut and Screwloose.

Jester

04-05-2012, 10:02 PM

Tempestra was a popular villain. Also most hero mutants don't return.

We never saw Mutagen Man, or Muckman Joeeyeball get a second episode. Nor did we see the return of Wingnut and Screwloose.
How was Tempestra popular? because she showed up in a second episode? Really, Cubed your popularity radar is kinda faulty.

As for Muckman and Joe Eyeball, Winters and I like to think he went on to join the Toxic Crusaders... :P

Dirty Blond

04-05-2012, 10:58 PM

Do you think if Mona Lisa had met 4Kids Raph, she may have gone for Mikey instead?

mysterycolor

04-05-2012, 11:08 PM

As for Muckman and Joe Eyeball, Winters and I like to think he went on to join the Toxic Crusaders... :P

he'd certainly fit right in :)

gobo

04-05-2012, 11:16 PM

I'm willing to bet Muckman was a hand-me-down from Toxic Crusaders.

CyberCubed

04-05-2012, 11:51 PM

Tempestra was a very popular character. Wasn't she in 3 episodes? I know she was in Season 7's Night of the Rogues...was that her second or third episode?

gobo

04-06-2012, 12:04 AM

Tempestra had only two. People always confuse Shreeka voiced by Eartha Kitt with her though.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

04-06-2012, 02:41 AM

Jester

04-06-2012, 02:52 AM

Tempestra was a very popular character. Wasn't she in 3 episodes? I know she was in Season 7's Night of the Rogues...was that her second or third episode?
Like gobo said, 2: Leonardo vs. Tempestra and Night of the Rogues. And when I think of popular characters I think of ones that if you asked some guy on the street who they are they might be able to say, "I remember that!"

cryan

04-06-2012, 02:59 AM

I would have loved to see Mona Lisa in the 4kids art style.She would have looked amazing.I definitely really want to see a new take on her.

ToTheNines

04-06-2012, 05:43 AM

Tempestra was a very popular character.

Are you huffing gasoline?

oldmanwinters

04-06-2012, 07:14 AM

How was Tempestra popular? because she showed up in a second episode? Really, Cubed your popularity radar is kinda faulty.

As for Muckman and Joe Eyeball, Winters and I like to think he went on to join the Toxic Crusaders... :P

I don't often jump to Cubed's defense, but among both myself and a good long-time friend of mine who waited anxiously for the the DVDs sets to come out, that was the episode that both of us agreed we just had to own on DVD. I think it was the combination of the video game plot and the excellently animated special effects that really made us love "Leonardo vs. Tempestra."

I figure that if both of us found the episode so memorable, there were probably lots of other kids that did as well. It also aired during the CBS era of the 4th season, a time in which the Turtles were at the height of their popularity and just about every kid in America tuned in for those early CBS episodes. Thus, everybody would have at least had a good chance to have seen the Tempestra episode.

Her second appearance as a generic villain in "Night of the Rogues," however, was a disappointment that just didn't feel authentic.

Jester

04-06-2012, 07:18 AM

Sadly I'm of the opposite persuasion, I liked Rogues better that Vs. Tempestra...maybe I never had a video game as a kid with a boss I just had to beat!

oldmanwinters

04-06-2012, 07:19 AM

Sadly I'm of the opposite persuasion, I liked Rogues better that Vs. Tempestra...maybe I never had a video game as a kid with a boss I just had to beat!

Yeah, I think it struck a nerve with some of those obsessive, young gamers such as myself.

The fact that "Leonardo who leads" who was the most dedicated gamer sorta made the whole hobby respectable, in my opinion.

MikeandRaph87

04-06-2012, 07:25 AM

Yeah, I think it struck a nerve with some of those obsessive, young gamers such as myself.

The fact that "Leonardo who leads" who was the most dedicated gamer sorta made the whole hobby respectable, in my opinion.

I thought it was because Leonardo always wanted to be the best and not give up no matter the task. It did not not matter what it was and in this case it was a video game. While they all liked pizza,b-movies,and video games it was Michelangelo that liked those the most.

As for Tempestra she was a one off character that was used a second time to put a female in a group of villains. Putting General Tragg or Groundchuck and Dirtbag would have been better.

A bit off topic but, how popular were the Punk Frogs? They have always been my favorite ally.

pannoni1

04-06-2012, 07:36 AM

A bit off topic but, how popular were the Punk Frogs? They have always been my favorite ally.

I'd say moderately popular, given that Genghis and Napoleon Frogs were fairly popular toy sellers plus they appeared in several episodes as opposed to one or two, meaning that they got more exposure, along with being the first spin-off animated characters of the turtles, which happened to appear in the series itself. And they were not originally the turtles' allies, as they were first encountered by Shredder, and warmed their hearts after Splinter told everyone to stop and drop their weapons. By the time Leatherhead appeared, the punk frogs were clearly seen as good guys.

As for Mona Lisa, her episode continued to be reran through Season 6 since CBS still showed two episodes each Saturday through that season, though by the time her figure came out in 1993, it was starting to become more of a memory. However, the episode was a VHS classic, which also increased her exposure, and while a turtle and not a lizard, she is still the first female reptile introduced into the TMNT franchise.

MikeandRaph87

04-06-2012, 07:42 AM

Zack had as many episodes as they did unfortunately and I don't think he is popular at least from what I have seen and being strongly disliked by myself. Though your other examples confirmed my thought. This group always had potential and heck when dire stacks are at hand can be a backup team.

As for Mona Lisa, her episode continued to be reran through Season 6 since CBS still showed two episodes each Saturday through that season, though by the time her figure came out in 1993, it was starting to become more of a memory. However, the episode was a VHS classic, which also increased her exposure, and while a turtle and not a lizard, she is still the first female reptile introduced into the TMNT franchise.

I have story about that. Back in 2000 I was looking for any left over Ninja Turtles stuff that Toy R' Us had and a mom was doing the same for her son as Black Friday appraoched. She told me she was looking specifically for Raphael Meets His Match 2 episode tape on VHS. I told her I had a copy of it and I would sell it to her cheap considering it was used so we did it like an Ebay transaction and I used the $7 to go on Ebay in its infancy and bought an unopened copy of the same.

sdp

04-06-2012, 08:17 AM

Ok, so Tempestra had 2 fans! I love videogames but her episode is just lame, she's a bad version of Viral which is already a terrible villain in the 2k3 show. There was no reason for her to exist or to appear again after the conclusion of the episode. If they really wanted a female villain in the group why not Shreeka or why didn't they bother to create a female villain before?

And were the Punk frogs popular? Their appearances seem random and we really never see the whole gang as a group after their second appearance do we? They were wasted potential, the first episode makes it seem like they are almost equals to the turtles which is hard to believe based on some quick training but after that episode it's like they forgot about that, not to mention their names were kind of wasted. After that when the punk frogs appeared it was only one or two of them. I never did like them but their appearances seemed random counting they really seemed forced into episodes.

oldmanwinters

04-06-2012, 08:28 AM

And... we might as well just abandon this tangent altogether. Logic has left the building.

Back to Mona Lisa. Anyone got some thoughts on the lizard lady?

I thought Pat Musick did a good job voicing her.

ToTheNines

04-06-2012, 08:34 AM

I thought Pat Musick did a good job voicing her.

Did ya'll know Pat Musick's daughter is Mae Whitman (2012 April)?

Xav

04-06-2012, 10:24 AM

I'd say moderately popular, given that Genghis and Napoleon Frogs were fairly popular toy sellers plus they appeared in several episodes as opposed to one or two, meaning that they got more exposure, along with being the first spin-off animated characters of the turtles, which happened to appear in the series itself. How are the Punk Frogs spin-off characters?

MikeandRaph87

04-06-2012, 10:34 AM

Yes, I was aware of that odd coincidence. I only learned it when I looked up the voice actor and saw her mother was Mona Lisa's voice. Was that the only time Musik did a voice in the cartoon?

How are the Punk Frogs spin-off characters?

He think he means created in the other media. The first allies I suppose but Bebop and Rocksteady were there and so were the Chanel Six News crew before. I don't know if those two or so role playing games would count in that in either.

VaughnMichael

04-06-2012, 01:25 PM

Are we going by the fact that Napoleon is the one Punk Frog that has the most appearances in the FW series? because if that's you're only proof of how much more popular he was, it's sorely lacking.
That and the fact that the frogs aren't even in the Archie series.:roll:
Ok, so Tempestra had 2 fans! I love videogames but her episode is just lame, she's a bad version of Viral which is already a terrible villain in the 2k3 show. There was no reason for her to exist or to appear again after the conclusion of the episode. If they really wanted a female villain in the group why not Shreeka or why didn't they bother to create a female villain before?
Tempestra is in fact a popular character in my book.
I'm not just saying that because I like her myself.
I know a handful of others who enjoy her as well and some of them are even on this site.

Killer Moth

04-06-2012, 02:55 PM

I don't often jump to Cubed's defense, but among both myself and a good long-time friend of mine who waited anxiously for the the DVDs sets to come out, that was the episode that both of us agreed we just had to own on DVD. I think it was the combination of the video game plot and the excellently animated special effects that really made us love "Leonardo vs. Tempestra."

I figure that if both of us found the episode so memorable, there were probably lots of other kids that did as well. It also aired during the CBS era of the 4th season, a time in which the Turtles were at the height of their popularity and just about every kid in America tuned in for those early CBS episodes. Thus, everybody would have at least had a good chance to have seen the Tempestra episode.

Her second appearance as a generic villain in "Night of the Rogues," however, was a disappointment that just didn't feel authentic.

Agreed. Not to mention, didn't Leo play a pinball game with the others in "Hot Rodding Teenagers?" So, it isn't like his being a gamer is out-of-character... too much. I haven't seen the episode since being a child, but I do recall Tempestra was a serious threat with her powers, compared to the normal powered-up villain. Even if they brought her back as a solo threat, she likely would have the same problem as Darkwing Duck's writers had with Liquidator -- she was way too powerful, thus she had to be downplayed in future episodes. Considering how the other rogues were either Mirage-based or media based (via the toy-line), it's actually surprising to see her, an original creation within the series itself, included.

Okay! Back to Mona Lisa. Her original design was supposed to be a Turtle, so I get why that had to be changed. And yet, despite the design revision, Eastman and Laird still didn't want her around. Fine, but given all these problems, frankly, it's amazing the episode aired, period. And, yes, I'd gladly take only one episode with her, than none at all, because good romantic or, yes, sexual tension is a rare thing in any fiction, let alone with any Turtle-based media.

JakeSully

04-06-2012, 04:33 PM

gobo

04-06-2012, 04:36 PM

I didn't care for Tempestra. She was boring, but better than the millions of generic mad scientists we got.

sdp

04-06-2012, 05:08 PM

I don't like Tempestra because even though it's a series of mutagen, mad scientists, dimension X and all staples of sci-fi, her origin is just too much for my suspension of disbelief in this show to take it seriously.

cryan

04-06-2012, 05:17 PM

Well,Brick Bradley AKA Bugman got 2 episodes and poor Mona got thrown into the recycling bin.No justice at all.Dang Mona Lisa still drive me crazy.

Panda_Kahn_fan

04-07-2012, 10:21 AM

I really, REALLY want to see Mona Again! She was one of my favorite TMNT female characters, and one of the few female mutants, to boot! I hope IDW or Nick uses her again! :tgrin:

cryan

04-07-2012, 03:48 PM

With the new toon coming out,they can tweak her origin a great deal.She has not been seen for the past 20 some odd years.Though I still want her previous form to be human and I still want her to be an innocent type character who is thrown into an extraordinary circumstance.

sdp

04-07-2012, 05:47 PM

Well,Brick Bradley AKA Bugman got 2 episodes and poor Mona got thrown into the recycling bin.No justice at all.Dang Mona Lisa still drive me crazy.

I loved bugman, he was a great superhero idea IMO, I'm glad he got two episodes, but yes tons of other characters got other appearances that maybe Mona Lisa deserved it more.

CyberCubed

04-07-2012, 09:46 PM

I am glad Mona Lisa debuted in the show before the anime craze hit America. Otherwise she'd probably be very popular with adult fanartists.

CyberCubed

04-07-2012, 09:48 PM

Jester

04-07-2012, 10:00 PM

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CyberCubed

04-08-2012, 12:20 AM

I never understood why people complain about perfectly good villains or characters, as if all those generic mad scientists or one-off nutjobs are any better.

The likes of Tempestra, Shreeka, Berserko, and other characters along those lines is what the show should have had in the non-Shredder/Krang episodes.

The fact that I remembered Tempstra's episode from my childhood way before the Season 4 DVD came out and before I rewatched the old show says a lot.

Jester

04-08-2012, 12:23 AM

I'll take Don Turtelli, Pinky McFingers, and Milo Sopho over Tempestra any day.

CyberCubed

04-08-2012, 12:28 AM

Well I am not talking about the gangsters, but the one-off's.

Jester

04-08-2012, 12:31 AM

Ok, I'll take Sopho and Polydorious over Tempestra anyday.

gobo

04-08-2012, 06:24 AM

Milo Sopho
"Philo", yo...
Ok, I'll take Sopho and Polydorious over Tempestra anyday.
Tim who? ;) Flat characters bore me. Tempestra was most certainly one.

Sage Ninja

04-08-2012, 10:09 AM

I like to think that a budding love triangle between Raphael-Mona Lisa-Donatello threatened to break up the bond of the Turtles, thus Splinter forbade the boys from ever dating again.

And that would be the last we would ever see of Mona...

:tlol:

I always saw a bit of a love triangle forming between Raph, Mona Lisa, and Mondo Gecko as more feesiable. I always thought that it would be cool that since Mondo Gecko entered the scene that he has taken some of Michelangelo's attention off of Raphael and that Raphael would become jealous of this since I always assumed that Raphael related to Michelangelo the best. And because he feels Mondo has sort of stolen his "buddy" he would turn his attention toward wooing Mona Lisa because he is attracted to her. It would be interesting to see what would develop if for some reason Mondo was attracted to Mona Lisa too and put the moves on her, leaving Raphael doubly slighted due to taking Michelangelo's attention off of him as well as Mona Lisa's.

Damn I'm good! I should write fan fic about this!

MikeandRaph87

04-08-2012, 12:24 PM

I always saw a bit of a love triangle forming between Raph, Mona Lisa, and Mondo Gecko as more feesiable. I always thought that it would be cool that since Mondo Gecko entered the scene that he has taken some of Michelangelo's attention off of Raphael and that Raphael would become jealous of this since I always assumed that Raphael related to Michelangelo the best. And because he feels Mondo has sort of stolen his "buddy" he would turn his attention toward wooing Mona Lisa because he is attracted to her. It would be interesting to see what would develop if for some reason Mondo was attracted to Mona Lisa too and put the moves on her, leaving Raphael doubly slighted due to taking Michelangelo's attention off of him as well as Mona Lisa's.

Damn I'm good! I should write fan fic about this!

"Love Reptile Style". The next thing you will need to do is figure a way to work a villain into this.:)

JakeSully

04-18-2012, 08:45 AM

Good title idea, "Love, reptilian style" and i think that would make a good fanfiction.

Anyone else besides me thought Mona was one gorgeous reptile mutant?

MikeandRaph87

04-18-2012, 09:55 AM

Good title idea, "Love, reptilian style" and i think that would make a good fanfiction.

Anyone else besides me thought Mona was one gorgeous reptile mutant?

I commission Sage to come up with the story in a three page comic and for you to draw it. You are an artist,right? It would fun to see what you could come up with.

Mona Lisa a drawing of a fictional humaniod salamander attractive?...If she was a real an unmutated human yeah. I do like pretty brunettes.:tlol:

gobo

04-18-2012, 10:02 AM

Everyone knows Mona Lisa is just Leonardo in drag.

MikeandRaph87

04-18-2012, 10:05 AM

Everyone knows Mona Lisa is just Leonardo in drag.

Tell that to Raphael though you sure that its not Venus that is Leonardo in drag?:twink:

cryan

04-18-2012, 04:35 PM

Everyone knows Mona Lisa is just Leonardo in drag.

Not a fan of Mona Lisa I take it.

MikeandRaph87

04-18-2012, 04:53 PM

Not a fan of Mona Lisa I take it.

Gobo, is referring to the long held idea that Leonardo De Vinci did a self portrait of himself if he were a woman and that sex changed self-portrait is Mona Lisa.

A second and more recent theory that DeVinci's apprentice and possible lover who made a slightly different painting at the exact same time DeVinci did his is of him, Salai if Salai was a woman.http://www.npr.org/2012/02/02/146288063/painting-sheds-new-light-on-the-mona-lisa

cryan

04-18-2012, 06:34 PM

Ah,thanks for clearing that up.

gobo

04-19-2012, 06:08 AM

^_^

Back on topic, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have liked the Mona Lisa character as much as I did if she had been a turtle, like originally intended. Lack of creativity just isn't that impressive.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

04-19-2012, 09:11 AM

It would have been better to have her in Ninjara's place. Just think if Mona learned a little marital arts beyond the basics she seemed to have down.

Or Ninjara in the 1987 cartoon.

Stingray69

04-19-2012, 01:39 PM

I always thought Mona Lisa was one of the more rememberal characters. She had a cool back story and a good episode it's a shame they dint use her more then once.

cryan

04-19-2012, 02:10 PM

^_^

Back on topic, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have liked the Mona Lisa character as much as I did if she had been a turtle, like originally intended. Lack of creativity just isn't that impressive.

Couldn't agree more.I was not blown away by the Venus character from NM.I do think Mona was more memorable.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

04-20-2012, 05:20 AM

I always thought Mona Lisa was one of the more rememberal characters. She had a cool back story and a good episode it's a shame they dint use her more then once.

As said, you can re-use her in TMNT fanfiction. I've seen som on the Internet.

gobo

04-20-2012, 05:29 AM

As said, you can re-use her in TMNT fanfiction. I've seen som on the Internet.
You're so insightful. :roll:

Jephael

04-20-2012, 09:20 AM

I'm a big fan of Mona Lisa. I even wrote a story where she and Raphael got married!

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/jephael/Raph_MonaLisa.jpg
picture drawn by Dan Berger, colored Brinatello!

Toby Barrett

04-20-2012, 09:40 AM

He wore his belt buckle to the wedding. Classy.

Stingray69

04-20-2012, 09:44 AM

Is it just me or do the turtle always look wierd with out there bandanas on.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

04-20-2012, 10:35 AM

I'm a big fan of Mona Lisa. I even wrote a story where she and Raphael got married!

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/jephael/Raph_MonaLisa.jpg
picture drawn by Dan Berger, colored Brinatello!

Where is it?

Jephael

04-20-2012, 10:53 AM

The scene takes place in my backyard, so his mask is probably in the kitchen.

Stingray69

04-20-2012, 10:55 AM

The scene takes place in my backyard, so his mask is probably in the kitchen.

makes sence,less to take off later

cryan

04-23-2012, 10:58 AM

I like to think that a budding love triangle between Raphael-Mona Lisa-Donatello threatened to break up the bond of the Turtles, thus Splinter forbade the boys from ever dating again.

And that would be the last we would ever see of Mona...

:tlol:

What a minute.In the episode Green with Jealousy,Splitner encourged the guys to fall in love.

Leonardo:they're in love Master

Splinter:That is good

Leo:but with the same woman

Splinter:that is bad.

I wold think that the other turtles would know that Mona was Raphs girl and leave it at that.Just saying.

MikeandRaph87

04-23-2012, 11:30 AM

What a minute.In the episode Green with Jealousy,Splitner encourged the guys to fall in love.

Leonardo:they're in love Master

Splinter:That is good

Leo:but with the same woman

Splinter:that is bad.

I wold think that the other turtles would know that Mona was Raphs girl and leave it at that.Just saying.

True,but it was Don that did not take the love potion not Leo.

cryan

04-23-2012, 12:54 PM

It's been a while sense I seen the episode.

tmnt transformer

04-24-2012, 05:46 PM

Jephael

04-25-2012, 06:50 AM

Hey it's fan fiction, and atleast he's marrying Mona Lisa, not some female turtle Mary Sue character someone with no creativity came up with!

Candy Kappa

04-25-2012, 07:10 AM

Hey it's fan fiction, and atleast he's marrying Mona Lisa, not some female turtle Mary Sue character someone with no creativity came up with!

theres a lot of re-imagined tmnt characters turned Mary Sue :lol:

gobo

04-25-2012, 08:13 AM

:teek::teek::teek::teek:
Ok????????????
Until this post, I had completely skipped the bit about Dan Berger having drawn that. O_O

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

04-26-2012, 06:33 AM

The scene takes place in my backyard, so his mask is probably in the kitchen.

So you are in that story too?

Jephael

04-26-2012, 09:05 AM

Yep. Infact a close friend of mine was the maid of honor.

Mona_Lisa

05-10-2012, 05:06 PM

[QUOTE=sdp;933000]Ok, so Tempestra had 2 fans! I love videogames but her episode is just lame, she's a bad version of Viral which is already a terrible villain in the 2k3 show. There was no reason for her to exist or to appear again after the conclusion of the episode. If they really wanted a female villain in the group why not Shreeka or why didn't they bother to create a female villain before?
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I really loved the First episode with Tempestra in it, I thought she was an awesome villain… But in the 2nd episode with her in it (Night of the rouges?) well, she didn’t seem so great….. She wasn’t as “strong” as I thought she was in the first episode
As for Mona Lisa... I think everyone Knows how I feel about her:D

cryan

05-10-2012, 05:51 PM

Right there with ya.I thought Mona Lisa was very cool.

Mona_Lisa

05-12-2012, 09:34 AM

Right there with ya.I thought Mona Lisa was very cool.

Thank you, lol…. I was really surprised I was able to snag this screen name… Figured someone else would have gotten it long ago.:P

JakeSully

08-29-2012, 11:23 PM

Nice nickname ML, i see your a huge fan of her too. It fascinating how she still lives on in fanfiction and fan-art as she is that popular and cute isn't it that i had a crush on her when i was 9 as i thought she was a hottie and still do adore her.

Mona looks pretty in that wedding dress, Raph was a lucky bastard to say, lol. Now if only she came back for the new animated show and reintroduce her. I wonder what Raph and Mona's kids would look like?

Weirdo-Warrior

08-31-2012, 03:26 PM

I like Mona Lisa a lot. First of all she's the only female mutant that comes to my mind when I think of the old cartoon (were there any other at all?), second she's cute but also crafty and smart. The famous episode in which she appears is still one of my favourites. I just don't buy the story of her origin, that doesn't involve any mutagen ooze but just her falling into some kind of nuclear engine... oh, well!

Her action figure is spectacular, very detailed and also standing out because of that flexible rubber-like material it's made of.

cryan

09-01-2012, 05:54 AM

Yeah,the explanation of Mona's mutation could have been done a lot better.it looked like the writer of the episode was grasping at straws to come up with an origin story for Mona Lisa.

JakeSully

09-11-2012, 03:41 PM

ZariusTwo

09-11-2012, 04:16 PM

Until this post, I had completely skipped the bit about Dan Berger having drawn that. O_O

Does that mean it's canon?:P

Jephael

09-11-2012, 07:38 PM

Does that mean it's canon?:P

Only in my little fantasy world! *runs off merrily while twirling a magic wand, pretending to be Ron Weasley*

JakeSully

09-12-2012, 06:49 PM

LOL, your so funny Japheael.

Who agrees that she looks like a mutant version of Sailor Jupiter?

Jephael

09-12-2012, 06:53 PM

Thanks. I do my best to entertain!

JakeSully

09-15-2012, 12:47 PM

I wish they could have put her in Ninja Turtles Adventures.

Mona_Lisa

08-15-2014, 03:16 PM

Leave it to me to bring this old post back from the dead :D
I like to draw, but I don't very much (I'm a busy mom). I decided to draw a picture of Mona Lisa because I have never drew her before. I goggled her to find some inspiration and there is some amazing fan art out there!
But.... I didn't know people tried to pair her with the other turtles! I saw her paired with Mikey, There was a pic where it looked like Donnie was forcibly trying to kiss her :teek:.... And there was a really cute pic. of her and Leo. But I was like NNNOOOOO!!!! Anyway. A lot of you guys dislike Mona, but how would you feel if she shown up in the nick cartoon and was paired with someone else?:ohwell:

pennydreadful

08-16-2014, 03:19 AM

I wouldn't be crazy about it personally, but I suppose it could work if it were done the right way. I'd really have to see it in motion.

DarkFell

08-16-2014, 11:03 AM

Mona Lisa is a cute character and she should come back not because of the cuteness factor but because she might serve as a factor for some interesting character development between her (because little is known about her), Raphael, and maybe with the other Turtles as well. (If she knows one brother, then she'll have to get to know the other three as well.) If they get into a situation together, then the audience might get to know more about Mona's character and how she will interact with the Turtles as well.

By the way, if Mona did show more often in Mighty Mutanimals and more of her character was explained in the series, that's nice to know; I didn't get much opportunity to read the comics.

Panda_Kahn_fan

08-18-2014, 12:32 PM

I am still of the opinion Nick and IDW both dropped the ball in regards to Mona. She's the PERFECT awnser to a 5th/girl turtle, not a long lost 'sister', not another mutant turtle, just a good female fighter who brings something diffrent to the team! And she could have a diffrent fighting style- like all that stuff Splinter was doing with his tail in the 2014 movie. Mona is the perfect frequent guest stsr to play off the turtles, just like Ninjara was in the Archie series! :D