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Sage Ninja
04-08-2012, 12:09 PM
One of the most iconic battles the turtles have faced is the epic fight scene in April's apartment where the foot clan attack Leo/Raph and then jump the turtles in a fight for their lives in April's place.

This was done in the first live action movie where Raphael was the one who was attacked and thrown through a window where a battle ensued. ANd the 2k3 series did this battle as well but with Leo like it was supposed to be in the comics which resulted in a battle for their lives.

My question is, which epic battle of this iconic fight for the comics was the best iteration of this battle from the comics?

rufus
04-08-2012, 12:53 PM
The Live action film for me.

Shreddhead
04-08-2012, 01:41 PM
I gotta go with the movie, but i like the Mirage comic one the best

Kendamu
04-08-2012, 02:54 PM
The original comic version is the best, but I'd say the Live Action one was second.

To be honest, though, I don't remember much about the 2k3 version.

Jester
04-08-2012, 02:55 PM
All I remember is "Nice Hats!" from the 4kids version. Steve Barron's for me please.

CyberCubed
04-08-2012, 03:03 PM
How can people not remember the 4kids version? It was one of the biggest episodes of Season 1.

Type 97 Chi-ha
04-08-2012, 03:15 PM
I gotta go with the movie, but i like the Mirage comic one the best

Same with me.

BubblyShell22
04-08-2012, 05:36 PM
Definitely the 2K3 battle, though I did enjoy the movie one battle as well.

TurtleTitan97
04-08-2012, 05:49 PM
The 2K3 battle for me.

Kendamu
04-08-2012, 05:58 PM
I watched the series only once. That's how.

Candy Kappa
04-08-2012, 06:15 PM
Comics all the way, but since it's a adaptation poll. I gotta go with the Live action one

CyberCubed
04-08-2012, 06:46 PM
I watched the series only once. That's how.

And after 9 years you never had the urge to rewatch any of it?

Candy Kappa
04-08-2012, 06:58 PM
And after 9 years you never had the urge to rewatch any of it?

I've too just had 1 see through of the 4KIDS series (Fred Wolf series too for that matter) can't say the series as a whole have much replay value when you've seen it

Jester
04-08-2012, 07:07 PM
I've watched through it a few times...but I've watched the movie many MANY more.

CyberCubed
04-08-2012, 07:16 PM
I've too just had 1 see through of the 4KIDS series (Fred Wolf series too for that matter) can't say the series as a whole have much replay value when you've seen it

I've rewatched the 4kids series 3 times, so that means after the first time I revisited it two more times for a complete rewatch.

It's certainly worth revisiting if you enjoyed it the first time.

Killer Moth
04-08-2012, 08:04 PM
I'll go with the first movie, if only to see that one Foot Soldier electrocuted on-screen. On the other hand, the 2003 version had good snark, courtesy of Mikey:

Shredder: Say farewell to each other, while you still can.

Mikey: Oh, yeah, Mr. Spike-y Pants? Well, you're the one who should be saying farewell to, uh, to yourself!

Raph: Oh, yeah, Mikey, that got him.

Decisions, decisions.

MikeandRaph87
04-08-2012, 08:09 PM
I like the well choreographed fight in the first movie. Its a good mix of fun and tense at the same time. 1. movie I 2. 2003 cartoon 3. Mirage's vol.1#10. Its ironic that I like them in the same order i do the different incarnations.

Kendamu
04-08-2012, 08:25 PM
And after 9 years you never had the urge to rewatch any of it?
Ever since the Season Sets were canceled a few years ago.... nope.

If some equivalent comes along, I'll probably give it another go.

Andrew NDB
04-08-2012, 08:31 PM
I thought the first movie apartment fight was pretty cool as a 9 year old but it didn't take me long after that to rewatch it and realize how dodgy it was. All the Turtles do like the same moves over and over again... block, block, and a kick... block, block, and a kick. With slapsticky stuff intermixed. I love the score in that scene, though, really gives it a great energy.

There's only one real apartment fight and it's not on the poll.

CyberCubed
04-08-2012, 08:40 PM
Ever since the Season Sets were canceled a few years ago.... nope.

If some equivalent comes along, I'll probably give it another go.

There have always been other ways to watch the show.

MikeandRaph87
04-08-2012, 08:42 PM
There have always been other ways to watch the show.

Cyber is right dude,I won't buy season 3 and the first few episodes of season 4 because of the seven different DVDS instead of what should be one to two so I use youtube for now to watch that and season 7 until the DVD releases finally come out.

CyberCubed
04-08-2012, 08:43 PM
Nick really needs to give the 4kids series proper DVD sets. Hopefully Shout Factory gets the license.

NameGoesHere1066
04-12-2012, 09:07 PM
I like the live action version of this fight better because I find more dramatic and stakes were higher. Tatsu being involved was great and the "oh ****" reaction the turtles have when he shows up was better than the Hun showing up. Plus the build up of having Raphael beaten up and tossed through the ceiling was awsome. Casey's entrance was the best, completely trumps Casey's entrance in the 2k3 series.

The cartoon, I didn't feel the same kind of urgency and threat during the situation as I did in the L.A movie. And even though Leo was injured I couldn't take his injuries as seriously as Raphael's since at one point he does get up while Raphael was out cold the whole. Plus I thought Leo's "bruises" looked really lame.

Also I know this is all my bias coming in, but I liked that it was Raphael instead of Leo who got greviously wounded during the battle.

Jephael
04-13-2012, 02:27 PM
I like the live action film version better because unlike the source material and 4Kids series we get a different turtle being hurt. I thought that was an interesting choice from the writer's perspective.

ToTheNines
04-13-2012, 02:45 PM
Can't believe this poll... The 4kids version had it all. Splinter catching the arrow and snapping it, Shredder actually being there. Plus new awesome stuff like the Elite Guard, the cliff-hanger ending with the mysterious Guardians.

The movie version was too slap-sticky for the most part, but the one thing I will give it is it had a way better Casey Jones entrance.

Logan
04-14-2012, 06:39 PM
What about the Arcade/NES game? :tlol:

Besides that, I'd go with the comic.

DonatelloDomeHead31
04-14-2012, 11:12 PM
I voted the live action one. where else can you do a nunchuk competition between mikey and the foot :D

also, um guys...i'm not so sure dropping in is such a good idea...structurally speaking (to quote donatello)

And i would agree also with the Arcade apartment fight...just too much fire if you ask me.

Sage Ninja
04-15-2012, 12:33 PM
Can't believe this poll... The 4kids version had it all. Splinter catching the arrow and snapping it, Shredder actually being there. Plus new awesome stuff like the Elite Guard, the cliff-hanger ending with the mysterious Guardians.

the cliff hanger ending was cool. Maybe it's the fact that the 4KIDs version is animated and the movie was live action. It kind of gives a more dangerous feel to it in a way. I know there is only so much you can get away with in a kids cartoon but Leo's injuries looked weird to say the least. I mean I know he was out cold but they didn't look life threatening. Raphael in the movie looked half dead.

Though I do like several things the cartoon added. Like April protecting Leo from hun, and then Casey threatening Hun when he moves in to hit her. So badass. I can't recall what April was doing in the movie.

Question does the fact that the right turtle "Leo" getting attacked like how he was in the comics, make the fight scene better than the movie were they gave that scene to Raphael?

MikeandRaph87
04-15-2012, 12:45 PM
the cliff hanger ending was cool. Maybe it's the fact that the 4KIDs version is animated and the movie was live action. It kind of gives a more dangerous feel to it in a way. I know there is only so much you can get away with in a kids cartoon but Leo's injuries looked weird to say the least. I mean I know he was out cold but they didn't look life threatening. Raphael in the movie looked half dead.

Though I do like several things the cartoon added. Like April protecting Leo from hun, and then Casey threatening Hun when he moves in to hit her. So badass. I can't recall what April was doing in the movie.

Question does the fact that the right turtle "Leo" getting attacked like how he was in the comics, make the fight scene better than the movie were they gave that scene to Raphael?

It does not matter the turtle that gets hurt as long as its a sense of drama because of it. It could have been Mike or Don if the situation called for it. In this situation it was better that it was Raph because it fit better. In the black and white comics it fit that it was Leo. Some version may come along and it is better suited that Mike or Don were beaten half to death by the foot clan.


April was doing the same as she did in the other two versions, holding/playing nurse for Leo to answer your question,Sage.

The only thing the comics had beyond the premise for an epic fight was the panel of Casey Jones entering the fray.

zkarlette
04-15-2012, 09:08 PM
Watching them both at this point in time I would go with the 4 kids version since I do believe nowadays you could come up with a more realistic Live action battle..or at least I hope they do, but at the time it was indeed a really dramatic battle specially since I didn't think it was possible to see Raph knocked out.

Fugitoid Jones
04-17-2012, 05:31 AM
And after 9 years you never had the urge to rewatch any of it?

Not everybody who watches the 2K3 show is absolutely going to feel the urge to watch it again multiple times. I love the show and have rewatched it, but I realize that not everybody is going to feel the same way.



This is a tough choice, cause on the one hand, I love the movie version because of the drama it evoked and the epic music is phenomenal, but the 2K3 toon was a little more accurate in it's adaptation of the comic, while still adding things that weren't in the comic. I think I'll choose the first movie, but only out of nostalgia because I've seen that a couple hundred times and only seen the animated version like 2 or 3 times.