For All the Naysayers, TMNT is going to be on XBOX...

[Spike]

...it was shown tonight at the Microsoft E3 press conference. I told you all to trust EB. :)

[The Stryker]

dang....thats more money to spend..(read,my life story)

[Reznorite420]

As if that really mattered to me... :roll:

[Tokka-B]

Darn, I was hoping this wouldn't happen, oh well, I am sure they probly had to bribe Konami a lot to get it, Konami probly won't make another game for their system once they figure out they get the least sales... :)

[Kid Icarus]

Darn, I was hoping this wouldn't happen, oh well, I am sure they probly had to bribe Konami a lot to get it, Konami probly won't make another game for their system once they figure out they get the least sales... :)

i actually agree with you :o :lol: .

If i see any game on X-box i like, i'll just wait for it to get ported on the computer :roll: .

[Peanut]

Tokka is there really any need for that? Why can't you be happy that more people will get to experience the new TMNT game? Personally I'll be buying th GC version, best controllers and best load times.

[Karpo_007]

X-box will be the second best looking version, but I will probably be getting Gamecube version. I to expect lower sales on X-box, because the target audience is probably mostly GC and PS2 owners.

[Nturtle]

Yeah I had already confirmed this in my last news post...

[Tokka-B]

There never is a need for anything in this forum....is there a need for this website?!? I just wanted to say that. Making games for the X-box will probably cost more than the kind of sales they will get...Konami made a bad moe this time....now I can only wish for a sequel... :(

[Dane E5R]

There never is a need for anything in this forum....is there a need for this website?!? I just wanted to say that. Making games for the X-box will probably cost more than the kind of sales they will get...Konami made a bad moe this time....now I can only wish for a sequel... :(

SHUT. UP. How can releasing a game on ANOTHER platform so MORE people can experience it gonna make them LOSE money? Not to mention it will look and sound better than any other version. Plain fact. I was really happy to hear this news since I really didn't want to have to be in my brother's room all the time to use the Gamecube, not to mention my turtle gang and I all own and prefer XBoxes..But your bashing really annoyed me. Have some common sense and respect for other people here; it's just like when people get pissed about the old cartoon being bashed. I get pissed when people bash my XBox.

[malignant]

[quote=Tokka]SHUT. UP. How can releasing a game on ANOTHER platform so MORE people can experience it gonna make them LOSE money? Not to mention it will look and sound better than any other version. Plain fact. I was really happy to hear this news since I really didn't want to have to be in my brother's room all the time to use the Gamecube, not to mention my turtle gang and I all own and prefer XBoxes..But your bashing really annoyed me. Have some common sense and respect for other people here; it's just like when people get pissed about the old cartoon being bashed. I get pissed when people bash my XBox.

No ones dissing..its just common sense and a known fact Xbox sucks..=x

[Peanut]

Enough of the bashing. Everyone likes their own system. Each have their pros and cons. The game is coming out on all three consoles. The move to put the game on X-Box won't make sales any worse. If the game is good it will sell! No matter the console. Let's leave it at that.

[Pidgeot018]

I think people are worried that the new game will be exclusive to XBOX, which it won't. I think the biggest reason for "fanboy-ism" is that if you spend so much money into getting, say, a PS2 and it's games and accesories, than you may be rightyfully ticked off to see XBOX and Gamecube get some good stuff. It's like an investment, really. No one wants to see something they poured so much money, time, and emotion into go down the drain. Why, I remember back to the days of the 16-bt Sega/Nintendo wars. Those were some violent times...

What I'm really craving, however, is a compilation of Konami's old TMNT games, including the legendary Arcade Game. :goofygri:

[Karpo_007]

Enough of the bashing. Everyone likes their own system. Each have their pros and cons. The game is coming out on all three consoles. The move to put the game on X-Box won't make sales any worse. If the game is good it will sell! No matter the console. Let's leave it at that.

Not neccessarily. X-box is not considered a console wich parent buy for their children. It is usually GC or PS2. X-box's target audience is older, and thats why GC and PS2 version will probably sell more.

And X-box version is not the best looking or sounding version, PC port is. But GC is probably the platform I will buy the game for.

[Peanut]

I mean overall sales Karpo. If the game is good it will sell.

[Karpo_007]

Yeah thats right. More platforms does mean more over all sales.

[impetus]

Enough of the bashing. Everyone likes their own system. Each have their pros and cons. The game is coming out on all three consoles. The move to put the game on X-Box won't make sales any worse. If the game is good it will sell! No matter the console. Let's leave it at that.Brother Michaelangelo speaks the truth.

[Kid Icarus]

Enough of the bashing. Everyone likes their own system. Each have their pros and cons. The game is coming out on all three consoles. The move to put the game on X-Box won't make sales any worse. If the game is good it will sell! No matter the console. Let's leave it at that.
Not 100% true... Eternal Darkness is one of the best games I've ever played, it got awesome reviews from the press, fan sites were going nuts about it, and it flopped.

X-Box is geared about 80% towards adults. Most adults, other than the hardcore fans of TMNT who own X-Box pry woulden't be caught dead buying the game. I could see this selling pretty good for kids, but most kids want a PS2 or already have it.

It could acutally result in Konami loosing money if it dosen't sell enough units on the box. Games, even ports, are expensive to make.

[impetus]

What I'm really craving, however, is a compilation of Konami's old TMNT games, including the legendary Arcade Game. :goofygri:You can do that on DreamCast using emulators

[Dane E5R]

[quote=Tokka]SHUT. UP. How can releasing a game on ANOTHER platform so MORE people can experience it gonna make them LOSE money? Not to mention it will look and sound better than any other version. Plain fact. I was really happy to hear this news since I really didn't want to have to be in my brother's room all the time to use the Gamecube, not to mention my turtle gang and I all own and prefer XBoxes..But your bashing really annoyed me. Have some common sense and respect for other people here; it's just like when people get pissed about the old cartoon being bashed. I get pissed when people bash my XBox.

No ones dissing..its just common sense and a known fact Xbox sucks..=x

Mmhm.. Just as it's common sense and a known fact that what you stated was a very ignorant comment.

[Tokka-B]

A lot of what people here have been saying is true though, and not just ignorant thoughts or whatever you prefer to call them. Of what we know so far it will be sold on 5 systems: PC, GBA, X-box, Ps2, and GC. If they dedicate the same amount of game units for each system (which I think will happen between the consoles but not with the PC version), then each system owns 20% of the games. Having known Konami finds it difficult, costly, and not very time effective to make games for X-box, it might get the least sales. (Although I personally feel that the PC will get the worst by far unless it has a multi-player feature) So yes, it will be more sales overall, that is stating the obvious though. The problem is that if it doesn't sell well then a huge chunk of the game units they paid for go to waste, thus losing a lot of money. Again, most kids have GC or Ps2, their will be a much higher demand for units with GC and Ps2, if there is only a 20% supply though, that would mean Konami having to pay more money than it should have had to. I probably stretched this into some wierd scenario, but I don't know how 3rd party companies deal with 3 different consoles, so I made my own presumption.

[Dane E5R]

There is a difference between fact and "No ones dissing..its just common sense and a known fact Xbox sucks..=x" :roll:

[Tokka-B]

My point went right over your head...I never said it is true that X-box sucks, I said it was true that X-box PROBABLY won't get as many sales, there is a great chance.

[Dane E5R]

I never denied that you had a point. I defended the XBox..The other guy said it was common knowledge that the XBox sucked..Then I said that was an ignorant statement. Then you said "A lot of what people here have been saying is true though, and not just ignorant thoughts or whatever you prefer to call them." I don't recall ever saying that they were all wrong.. All I remember is pointing out blatant ignorance.

[Reznorite420]

Most adults, other than the hardcore fans of TMNT who own X-Box pry woulden't be caught dead buying the game.Well, then those who don't buy it because they see TMNT as a "kid" thing on the whole, then they're the dumb ones! :D

[Kid Icarus]

What I'm really craving, however, is a compilation of Konami's old TMNT games, including the legendary Arcade Game. :goofygri:You can do that on DreamCast using emulators
A lot of people can't get dreamcasts anymore though, and even if they can getting the emulator and cd's made for it would be a lot more trouble than slapping down 50 bucks for a single disc that could save game data (options, scores, times died, or what ever else would be worth keeping track of).

[Peanut]

I don't think Konami would be stupid enough to release the same amount of games for X-Box as they do for GC and PS2. I'm sure they'll have a limited supply for X-Box and if the game is in demand they'll ship more. Simple as that.

[impetus]

Dreamcasts are pretty easy to find, in the US anyhow, if not locally then on the internet. And cheap too! :D

[Pidgeot018]

I guess I should've said a LEGIT compilation.

[Krangfan]

I can't wait for the new game, and I'm gonna get it on Xbox. With Xbox I usually get the multi-console games, and for GameCube I get the Nintendo games.


(btw people, it's not X-Box!!! It's Xbox!!!! Stop spelling it wrong!)

[tOkKa]

-->> http://www.battleman100.cd2.com/x-box.jpg
.. news is fine by me..

[Tokka-B]

:lol: :lol: Another patch?!?! :lol: :lol:

[Nturtle]

:lol: Yeah, death to microsoft!! :evilgrin:

[Tokka-B]

That is taking it a bit far...death to X-Box is good enough, Microsoft created Windows, which is helpful most of the time... :)

[Krangfan]

:x Please! If you're gonna diss something, at least spell it correctly! It's Xbox, not X-Box!

[Ninja Tiptup]

Pidgeot018 I feel your pain man. I'm dieing for a compilation!

The Arcade Game, Turtles in Time (arcade version), The Manhattan Project, and The Hyperstone Heist would be awsome! All four with the super awsome cartoony arcade graphics (all with the same graphics I mean) and four player support for each. The game would be a shoe-in for an exclusive for Gamecube or GCN and Xbox. It doesn't seem to fit PS2 IMO. Konami has released Contra, Castlevania, Bomerman (by Hudson of course), and Arcade collections. So why not TMNT? Everyone loves those games (everyone here at least). The "legendary" arcade game got 3rd on G4's greatest arcade games of all time list (as voted by the fans on the Filterater). Only behind Street Fighter 2 (second) and Pac Man (first).

If nothing else Konami should release the first arcade game for GBA (or Turtles in Time) and add in 4 player link play. That would be well worth a purchase.

I've wanted a four player TMNT game since the N64 days. Why wont they give it to me?!?!? Ah well... I can dream.

As for the game being on Xbox. I wish it wasn't because it makes it less "special" being on everything. I agree that more people should get to play the game, but PC, GCN, and PS2 was enough IMO. It's not going to do wonders for the demo-graphic (as others have stated) and will eventually end up costing Konami money (like most of their Xbox games have). I do know quite a few "kids' that own Xboxes though so I wouldn't count it out just yet. Even so the GCN and PS2 version will sell the most and the Xbox and PC ones will sell just a little below. I can see the Harry Potter PC gamer croud picking up TMNT for the PC.

Though the Xbox one will not be different from the PS2, GCN, or PC games. They will all be the SAME. Look at the screen shots guys they are no different from one another. Konami would mention it if they were. TMNT was built for the PS2 (like most licensed games) and was ported to the other consoles and the PC. The only different game out of the bunch will be the dramatically different (for obvious reasons) GBA version. So it doesn't really matter which one you get. They're the same game folks. Because of that fact I plan to pick up the GCN, because I like it best (but first I need to get either that or a PS2).

[Tokka-B]

Actually it will look different...you are seeing screen shots from different systems on your same computer, you are seeing the computer graphics. If you actually get the game for both GC and X-Box then you will notice the difference. If it was the same, there would only be one console, and PC.

[Ninja Tiptup]

Why? Third party games come out all the time for every system and look different. What's the difference? I really don't see anything. They aren't system specific changes and if you arguing this for Xbox then let it be said that GCN can put out just as great a performance. Besides a hard drive and more memory the Xbox has nothing on the GCN (well except Xbox Live I guess).

If they were more console specific. Then why does Konami have only one site for all four? That could be that they are just lazy though...

[Karpo_007]

Most noticable diffrence is between PC and consoles. All of scree shot I've seen so far look pretty much same to me.

[Dane E5R]

:dead: You guys are killing me.. XBox has nothing on the Gamecube except hard drive space? That really makes me think that you haven't even been near an XBox. I sat in EB a few days ago with my buds talking to an employee for a good hour or so talking about the next gen systems, trust me guys, this dude was like the Brodie (Mallrats) of video games. XBox IS the most powerful, AND the nicest looking system. Metroid Prime, sure, that was impressive, but go download the Halo 2 demo and tell me that that doesn't impress you. I really dare you to. Oh, and all you people that claim that you'd rather wait for a game to hit the PC than get an XBox, well...Look at the screen shots of the XBox version of Halo, and then the PC version, and tell me they look exactly the same. Now bare in mind people that I own both a Gamecube and an XBox, and I've got a couple of the same games for both systems just for comparison.. Believe me when I say that there WILL be a difference in how these games look. And XBox will no doubt be superior. However, the game play and controls are what I'm interested in seeing.

[SlayerX]

:dead: You guys are killing me.. XBox has nothing on the Gamecube except hard drive space? That really makes me think that you haven't even been near an XBox. I sat in EB a few days ago with my buds talking to an employee for a good hour or so talking about the next gen systems, trust me guys, this dude was like the Brodie (Mallrats) of video games. XBox IS the most powerful, AND the nicest looking system. Metroid Prime, sure, that was impressive, but go download the Halo 2 demo and tell me that that doesn't impress you. I really dare you to. Oh, and all you people that claim that you'd rather wait for a game to hit the PC than get an XBox, well...Look at the screen shots of the XBox version of Halo, and then the PC version, and tell me they look exactly the same. Now bare in mind people that I own both a Gamecube and an XBox, and I've got a couple of the same games for both systems just for comparison.. Believe me when I say that there WILL be a difference in how these games look. And XBox will no doubt be superior. However, the game play and controls are what I'm interested in seeing.

Why would you want to spend like $50 for an xbox game, and then $50 for the same game for gamecube. Well you want to compare, but why dont you go rent them and save like $45 or whatever? And about the PC/xbox version of Halo, wow, thats one game. If it was up to me i'd rather save $300 from buying an xbox, games, all that other stuff, and just buy a game, maybe not as good, yet still the same title, on my computer... Who really cares if one systems graphics in the same freakin game are better than another one?! I dont sit there and compare the pixels or whatever the hell their called in a damn game!

[Karpo_007]

It is a fact the xbox has the best visuals compared to other consoles. But a GOOD PC is always far superior not least beacuse of the resolution.

[SlayerX]

This is a tiny bit off topic, but with all of these new games coming out like NHL2004 and stuff, and them being online compatible, do you think that computer sales are going to slowly drop, or are they already? Also, is it confirmed if this TMNT game is gonna be online, cuz I hope so, one more reason to buy the online adaptor :D I'm gonna get one for NHL2004 for PS2, but I need more reasons / games :P

[Karpo_007]

I dobt it, it's a 2 player game online possibility would go to waste.

[Krangfan]

:dead: You guys are killing me.. XBox has nothing on the Gamecube except hard drive space? That really makes me think that you haven't even been near an XBox. I sat in EB a few days ago with my buds talking to an employee for a good hour or so talking about the next gen systems, trust me guys, this dude was like the Brodie (Mallrats) of video games. XBox IS the most powerful, AND the nicest looking system. Metroid Prime, sure, that was impressive, but go download the Halo 2 demo and tell me that that doesn't impress you. I really dare you to. Oh, and all you people that claim that you'd rather wait for a game to hit the PC than get an XBox, well...Look at the screen shots of the XBox version of Halo, and then the PC version, and tell me they look exactly the same. Now bare in mind people that I own both a Gamecube and an XBox, and I've got a couple of the same games for both systems just for comparison.. Believe me when I say that there WILL be a difference in how these games look. And XBox will no doubt be superior. However, the game play and controls are what I'm interested in seeing.

Well put!!! And it's nice to know someone else in the minority (I have Xbox and GCN too, but no PS2)

[Tokka-B]

X-box barely nicks GC in graphics, but it doesn't matter because the GC has a much faster framerate and the graphics are displayed a LOT better...In my opinion the GC has the best system power, especially for it's price... And yes, different consoles have different graphics, who was the one arguing that? I forgot. And Tiptup, if you call me an X-box fan ever again, you'd really better make sure your computer has a warranty, because I won't take that **** from you. I am a GC fan, more so than you in fact. And to the X-box fans, what other game besides Halo is good for X-box? I'd really like to here that, and it has to be exlusive.

[SlayerX]

How much does gamecube cost where you live tokka?

*EDIT* oops sent too fast, i meant to add on:

Here in canada it costs $299.99, same as PS2 for sure, and Xbox is probably the same.

Tokka is right, the only GOOD game that to me is the most popular is Halo, and I have heard a ton of ppl say that even Halo sucks cuz it gets boring or something god knows what these Xbox loves see in it :P

[Dane E5R]

:dead: You guys are killing me.. XBox has nothing on the Gamecube except hard drive space? That really makes me think that you haven't even been near an XBox. I sat in EB a few days ago with my buds talking to an employee for a good hour or so talking about the next gen systems, trust me guys, this dude was like the Brodie (Mallrats) of video games. XBox IS the most powerful, AND the nicest looking system. Metroid Prime, sure, that was impressive, but go download the Halo 2 demo and tell me that that doesn't impress you. I really dare you to. Oh, and all you people that claim that you'd rather wait for a game to hit the PC than get an XBox, well...Look at the screen shots of the XBox version of Halo, and then the PC version, and tell me they look exactly the same. Now bare in mind people that I own both a Gamecube and an XBox, and I've got a couple of the same games for both systems just for comparison.. Believe me when I say that there WILL be a difference in how these games look. And XBox will no doubt be superior. However, the game play and controls are what I'm interested in seeing.

Why would you want to spend like $50 for an xbox game, and then $50 for the same game for gamecube. Well you want to compare, but why dont you go rent them and save like $45 or whatever? And about the PC/xbox version of Halo, wow, thats one game. If it was up to me i'd rather save $300 from buying an xbox, games, all that other stuff, and just buy a game, maybe not as good, yet still the same title, on my computer... Who really cares if one systems graphics in the same freakin game are better than another one?! I dont sit there and compare the pixels or whatever the hell their called in a damn game!

Nobody is comparing pixels.. It's taking one game..Turning it on...Looking...And then taking another game..Turning it on..........And....LOOKING. It's as simple as that. The XBox is mine, and the GC is my brother's. It was his idea to buy the games that I have to prove to me that they wouldn't be any different. He was wrong. I was right. Just as you are wrong, and I am right. And why am I supposed to be naming off exclusive XBox games again? That's irrelevant. I'd rather challenge you to find a game on any other console that has in-game stills (not CGI cut-scenes) that looks better than

http://halo.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/halo2/h2_e3_03.jpg
or
http://halo.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/scrn_135.jpg
OR
http://halo.bungie.net/images/site/halo/screenshots/halo2/h2_e3_01.jpg

Halo gets boring? Halo sucks? Um, I've been playing Halo for over a year now and I STILL get surprised. I STILL hear new things being said by marines and covenant alike. I STILL learn new tricks and STILL see things that I'd never noticed before. I don't know who you've been talking to, but rest assured that they're just as clueless as you are.

[Tokka-B]

LoL! Listing exclusive games is irrelevant, but finding stills isn't! :lol: :lol:

When will you learn that graphics stills don't make the game special, it is the gameplay and cotrol that does. I wanted you to list exclusive X-box games because I wondered if there was any good game besides Halo...I think that is a fair question...

Triceraton, I get can get a GC for $150 at ebgames. At that same store they sell X-box for $180.

[Krangfan]

I am a GC fan, more so than you in fact. And to the X-box fans, what other game besides Halo is good for X-box? I'd really like to here that, and it has to be exlusive.

ToeJam and Earl III: Mission to Earth. Genesis owners who played the TJ&E games will definitely like this one! AND it's exclusive :D That's partly why I love GameCube and Xbox, the Sega Genesis classics. On GameCube we've got the Sonic games and on Xbox, we've got ToeJam and Earl III.

[SlayerX]

LoL! Listing exclusive games is irrelevant, but finding stills isn't! :lol: :lol:

When will you learn that graphics stills don't make the game special, it is the gameplay and cotrol that does. I wanted you to list exclusive X-box games because I wondered if there was any good game besides Halo...I think that is a fair question...

Triceraton, I get can get a GC for $150 at ebgames. At that same store they sell X-box for $180.

holy crap, we have to pay double to get a game cube x_x I guess with the conversion from USA to Canadian money it puts it AROUND the same... :P

[Peanut]

X-Box has the hold on the graphics . GC has the hold on the loading times. PS2 has the hold on the amount of games. As for good X-Box exclusive games that will/have made in impact: Halo/Halo 2, Fable, Brute Force, Full Spectrum Warrior, DOA series (I don't like it but lots do), MechAssult, FSRF, Conker Live and Uncut, Perfect Dark Zero, Banjo Kazooie. Personally I don't think the X-Box could ever live up to the GC series of games, Mario and Zelda just kill the entire X-Box line up with the exception of Halo, which is hardly able to hang in there with those two series as it is. Fable would be a tough one to beat as well (if it comes out properly). The TMNT won't have too much of a difference. Most games that are released multi-console at the same time are usually just about if not exactly the same. X-Box and GC won't have as many (or any) of the jaggies the PS2 gives off the majority of the time and GC's FMV (if there is any real FMV in the game) won't look as sharp thanks to compression, but all three should look play and sound the same.

[Ninja Tiptup]

X-box barely nicks GC in graphics, but it doesn't matter because the GC has a much faster framerate and the graphics are displayed a LOT better...In my opinion the GC has the best system power, especially for it's price... And yes, different consoles have different graphics, who was the one arguing that? I forgot. And Tiptup, if you call me an X-box fan ever again, you'd really better make sure your computer has a warranty, because I won't take that sh** from you. I am a GC fan, more so than you in fact. And to the X-box fans, what other game besides Halo is good for X-box? I'd really like to here that, and it has to be exlusive.

Probably more of a GCN fan (I've yet to get one, but I will eventually), but I doubt your are more of a Nintendo fan than I am. I own every Gameboy ever to make it to the US(I still have my old Toaster grey GB), 41 NES games, pretty much all the Mario series games, and I have been a Nintendo fanboy sense the NES days. I actually go opt to buy old games over the new ones at this point. I've just about run out of games that I want for SNES and N64 though. Plenty more for the NES of course.

Exclusives blah blah blah... BTW I hear (at least in comparrison) Toe Jam and Earl III sucked and Sonic Heros is gonna be on everything anyway.

I have played an Xbox. I just never liked the controller or very many of the games. DOA 3 was fun and Halo 16 player is very enjoyable, but that's about it.

GCN hasn't gotten my attention much as of yet either. Metroid Prime got a little boring for me and I think Zelda is a similar case. I really love Super Smash Bros. Melee, but that's about it for now. I was really dissapointed with Super Mario Sunshine. I had a much more enjoyable experience with Super Mario 64 and pretty much every other Mario series game. When I get a GCN most of my games will probably be third party. TMNT, DBZ: Budokai, and Soul Calibur have really caught my interest and TimeSplitters 2 is a fine FPS. I'll no doubt pick up SSB:M right away, and I'll probably get Mario Kart: Double Dash and Star Fox: Armada and at least check out Metroid Prime 2, FF: Crystal Chronicles, and F-Zero, but all those games wont be coming out yet. So that means it will be a while before I will need a GCN.

Even so the only games I like on PS2 are fighting games and small bunch of RPG's (mainly the ports like CT and FF6). So I don't really need one of those either.

I think GCN has the most potential though and can do anything Xbox can except have a hardrive at this point (it can get online... but Nintendo doesn't really support it).

BTW Triceraton I made those Neo Geo Pocket Color TMNT sprites in your sig. I'm glad you like them though. It's nice to see my art appreciated.

[Krangfan]

[quote=Tokka]

Exclusives blah blah blah... BTW I hear (at least in comparrison) Toe Jam and Earl III sucked and Sonic Heros is gonna be on everything anyway.



NOOO! ToeJam and Earl III is a totally kick ass game! The only reason people didn't like it was 'cause they didn't understand it. The only people who really understand it are the old skool TJ&E fans (such as myself).

[Tokka-B]

Um, I never said that, ninja tiptup did....watch who you quote...

[SlayerX]

Hey Elite5Raph read this convo:

*@hotmail.com says:
amazing how when people talk about how good xbox is the only game the can name is "Halo"
*@hotmail.com says:
i used to have an xbox and halo
Ian says:
LOL exactly! thats what were all trying to say, but he cant admit its true
*@hotmail.com says:
halo is a good game
*@hotmail.com says:
but nothing groundbreaking
Ian says:
does it get boring?
*@hotmail.com says:
nothing to make me kiss microsofts ass
*@hotmail.com says:
not really

I put a star in for his name so you dont add him and do god knows what. also, last time me (and 3 quarters of the technodrome) check, these are the results of the main poll on the technodrome page:

Technodrome
Poll - May
Which of the current video game consoles do you own?


PlayStation 2
23% / 46 ppl

GameCube
21% / 42 ppl

Xbox
4% / 8 ppl

PlayStation 2 and GameCube
17% / 34 ppl

PlayStation 2 and Xbox
5% / 10 ppl

GameCube and Xbox
3% / 6 ppl

All Three
10% / 20 ppl

None
19% 38 ppl

votes: 200

If you look, Ps2 / Xbox, GC / Xbox, and Xbox by itself all have 10 and under ppl voting for it. Now either the numbers are so low because ppl go out and rent an xbox whenever they want to play it, or xbox just plain sucks (as about 75% of the internet has been sayig ever since it was released) :)

[Ninja Tiptup]

NOOO! ToeJam and Earl III is a totally kick ass game! The only reason people didn't like it was 'cause they didn't understand it. The only people who really understand it are the old skool TJ&E fans (such as myself).

Well if an old skool fan likes it then I guess it isn't as bad as they say. Or maybe it is and you just like it. Either way if you like it then play it. Simple as that.

Don't scold him Tokka it was a simple mistake with the BBCode.

[Peanut]

Triceratron that is nothing but worthless pointless bashing. Your opinion means absolutley nothing to me now. The fact of the matter is in the coming months GCN will begin to slide thanks to Nintendo screwing over all of us hardcore fans and focusing on stupid GBA/GCN hook-ups rather than creating new games based on everyones favorite franchises or new franchises. As much as it pains me to say it I can see Nintendo slowly slipping down past X-Box. Mario Kart and F-Zero are all well and good, but I need something BIG to look forward to. They could have at least mentioned Super Mario 128 or a new SSB. Instead they go crazy over a boring Pac-Man game! The fact that most people are too blinded by the fanboyism or just too plain immature to realize that Halo WAS a groundbreaking game and IS the best FPS ever made really makes me sick. Fanboyish comments will get you nowhere in a hurry. Don't say I'm an X-Box fanboy either because I've been playing Nintendo systems since I was two years old. Nintendo has and always will be top of my list, but bashing other systems that DON'T suck and other games that AREN'T bad is just plain stupid.

[Karpo_007]

Nintendo has been that way since N64. I was really disapointed when N64 had only one real Mario game, NES had 3 and SNES had 2. It's weird that if Super MArio 128 is really in development, why they didn't mention it in E3? I would also like to see a realistic looking Zelda game, where you don't play a 10 year old Kid in a disney world. Might be just a dream.

[Dane E5R]

LoL! Listing exclusive games is irrelevant, but finding stills isn't! :lol: :lol:

When will you learn that graphics stills don't make the game special, it is the gameplay and cotrol that does. I wanted you to list exclusive X-box games because I wondered if there was any good game besides Halo...I think that is a fair question...



Uh, yea. My stills are proving that XBox's graphics do more than "nic" the Gamecube's. What is finding exclusive games doing? Anyway, I think Michaelangelo's list works well enough. Triceraton, that conversation you posted uh, what is it that I'm supposed to be offended by? It looks to me that the guy said that Halo was a good game, and he also said that it didn't get boring. And anyway, since Halo is mentioned so often...Don't you think that kinda means something? There are people that have BOUGHT Xboxes FOR Halo. Don't you think that kinda means something? Do you think at all, or does Tokka have to do all your thinking? I have yet to see you come up with anything intelligent to say. All you do is wait for Tokka to say something, then jump behind him and say " :lol: :lol: Yeah, XBox sucks!" Even though you have never played it, or Halo. What does that say about your opinion? Besides the fact that it's void? Right. And what exactly did you expect to prove by posting those poll results? Unless 99.9 percent of the world's population are member's of this forum, that means absolutely nothing, just like everything else you say from this point on.

[Karpo_007]

I don't know what there is to argue about. Xbox is most powerfull of Consoles, and yes, has best visuals. GC has good visuals and faster loading times than Xbox. PS2 was released first and is the least powerfull machine. But it has games that other do not, if you are a RPGamer you can't live without PS2.

Now good PC over powers everyone of these easily in Visuals, but it's much more fun to play games like TMNT on a couch with Big screen and good sound system. Therefore GC version is the choice for me.

[Ninja Tiptup]

Anything on on PC's other than Stradegy, FPS, and occasionally racing games doesn't feel right to me. Consoles are where it's at for fighting games and platformers.

[Ninja Tiptup]

Triceratron that is nothing but worthless pointless bashing. Your opinion means absolutley nothing to me now. The fact of the matter is in the coming months GCN will begin to slide thanks to Nintendo screwing over all of us hardcore fans and focusing on stupid GBA/GCN hook-ups rather than creating new games based on everyones favorite franchises or new franchises. As much as it pains me to say it I can see Nintendo slowly slipping down past X-Box. Mario Kart and F-Zero are all well and good, but I need something BIG to look forward to. They could have at least mentioned Super Mario 128 or a new SSB. Instead they go crazy over a boring Pac-Man game! The fact that most people are too blinded by the fanboyism or just too plain immature to realize that Halo WAS a groundbreaking game and IS the best FPS ever made really makes me sick. Fanboyish comments will get you nowhere in a hurry. Don't say I'm an X-Box fanboy either because I've been playing Nintendo systems since I was two years old. Nintendo has and always will be top of my list, but bashing other systems that DON'T suck and other games that AREN'T bad is just plain stupid.

Nintendo is dissapointing me as well, but I know they are probably saving something for Space World. I'm just happy we get a new Mario RPG (with Luigi!), Fire Emblem (at last), Custom Robo (at last), and some pretty decent exclusives from Nintendo this year. Geist looks pretty awsome.

Halo is a great game, but I'm still rather partial to Goldeneye. Say and believe what you want, but I'm sticking to my guns and saying that it is the great console FPS and will be for a long time.

[Karpo_007]

Yes think so to. And RTS and FPS game don't really belong to consoles. Even if you have keyboard and mouse wich most players don't, the resolution is to low. I play FPS games at 1280x1024 and it just doesn't feel right at 640x480. Pc is not the best platform for fighting/platformer games, but it's good that even TMNT fans without consoles can play the game.

[Tokka-B]

Oh boy...it's been a while...

First, Triceraton...those poll results mean absolutely nothing besides the fact that more people own a Gamecube, which does make sense because it costs less.

Tiptup, don't tell me what I can and can not say.

Michaelangelo, get used to Nintendo being like that, in order to make those dream games they would first need money, and that is the easiest way to get it, and probly the most practical.

Raph, finding exclusive X-box games that are good may prove whether X-box is a system worthy enough to purchase. If all of its games are on GC and Ps2, then why not get one of them? I'd seriously like reasons why to purchase an X-box...maybe X-box Live, but I don't think X-box is the best system to be using online games when there are enough bugs offline.

Karpo, the visual stills may be better, but when the game is in action it is more choppy than the GC and thus the graphics aren't displayed as well. And yea, PC owns for RTS and FPS, but if there ever was an online fighting game for PC, I'd get it over any for the console.

[Karpo_007]

I don't have much experience on Xbox, but I to have heard that some games suffer framerate problems. And Im pretty sure that so do some GC games, altough I haven't seen one yet.

[Tokka-B]

Hmmm, actually that is possible...none of the ones I have though have that problem, maybe I might come across one sometime in the near future.

[Krang]

First, Triceraton...those poll results mean absolutely nothing besides the fact that more people own a Gamecube, which does make sense because it costs less.The poll results don't mean "nothing," they represent the video game consoles that visitors to The Technodrome own. Shredder and I didn't make those results up, you know... :P

Anyway, this is not the place to debate about which video game console is better. If some of you still want to debate about that even though it's been done several times before, start a new thread in General Discussion. Personally, though, I'm sick of hearing from the kiddies who only care about which console is the "most powerful" and has the "best graphics" rather than about the games themselves. And besides, I think the original topic of this thread has already served its purpose, so I'm locking this thread to avoid any further arguments.