Chick-fil-A is against gay marriage

[psych23232323]

I recently read an article on Xfinity where apparently the Chick-fil-A restaurants are against gay marriage. Apparently, they've always been against gay marriage.


I've eaten there and never thought it was. Only propaganda I ever saw at that restaurant was that sign with a picture of a cow holding a sign saying thanks for eating at Chick-fil-A.


I honestly thought businesses would be more tolerant to others in this day and age.

I never saw anything wrong with gay marriage really. I mean; so a man and a woman can marry each other for money or a green card but two men or two women who love each other can't marry each other because the bible says it's wrong?

That's messed up in my opinion.

And heck, in Christianity, you can go to hell just by thinking; I learned in Christian school that every thought you have is sinful, no matter what it is you're thinking.

Anyway, I honestly am not going to eat at a restaurant that's going to hate against homosexuals.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120726/US.Chick.fil.A.Culture.Wars/?cid=hero_media

[ToTheNines]

They sell chicken sandwiches and lemonade. People seriously care what their stances are on social issues?

[psych23232323]

They sell chicken sandwiches and lemonade. People seriously care what their stances are on social issues?

Actually yes, there are people who would care.

Churches and anti-gay groups are supporting them.

An alderman in Chicago wants to ban Chick-fil-A restaurants, the mayor of Chicago is supporting the alderman, and Jim Henson Co is pulling their toys from that restaurant.

[Master Splinter]

They sell chicken sandwiches and lemonade. People seriously care what their stances are on social issues?

And they take the profit from that sale and use it to support groups that oppress rights of millions of Americans.

-ms

[Storm Eagle]

Actually yes, there are people who would care.

Churches and anti-gay groups are supporting them.

An alderman in Chicago wants to ban Chick-fil-A restaurants, the mayor of Chicago is supporting the alderman, and Jim Henson Co is pulling their toys from that restaurant.

They might be against gay marriage, and that is their opinion, but I'm not sure if it should be taken too personally as long as they don't deny service to customers just because they're gay, or deny people jobs because they're gay. They didn't even say that they wouldn't do those things either, did they? There's even the philosophy of loving the sinner yet hating the sin. I'm against smoking, but if I ran a business, I'd still support customers who are smokers, and give jobs to smokers.

Also, that Christian school you mentioned sounds very radical. Not EVERY thought is sinful. Even the ones that are, you shouldn't go to hell just for thinking those thoughts as long as you don't wallow in sin. They should be teaching that God is forgiving. So if you're truly remorseful of your sins, you just pray for forgiveness.

[The Stryker]

The restaurant that is very openly super christian and is closed on sundays doesn't look favorably on gay people? No way.

Food's delicious. Don't care. Im sure other places are involved with worse things. Its not as if every time I get some waffle fries they execute a homosexual.

[DonatelloFan]

Could not care what their stance is. I'm against gay marriage, but if they said they were for it, it wouldn't make me want to not eat there. So they take a stance, who cares? I don't know if it's widely known (I thought it was), but ChikFilA is a CHRISTIAN company. They don't hide that fact, they actually promote that fact.

And even though people knew that, the only thing people are upset with is the fact that the CEO formally announced it. So as long as it's not told to the masses, gay people and their supporters can just keep their heads in the sand, right?

It just doesn't make sense. So the f*** what if a company doesn't approve of gay people. It's free speech, get over it. And sadly, protesting is also free speech (but sitting outside CFA's holding dumbass signs is just stupid), so more power to 'em.

And I realize I'm in the minority in this day and age, but I'm still weighing in. It's just sad that if you take a stand against gay marriage, you get torn apart by anyone and everyone.

[DonatelloFan]

They might be against gay marriage, and that is their opinion, but I'm not sure if it should be taken too personally as long as they don't deny service to customers just because they're gay, or deny people jobs because they're gay. They didn't even say that they wouldn't do those things either, did they? There's even the philosophy of loving the sinner yet hating the sin. I'm against smoking, but if I ran a business, I'd still support customers who are smokers, and give jobs to smokers.

Also, that Christian school you mentioned sounds very radical. Not EVERY thought is sinful. Even the ones that are, you shouldn't go to hell just for thinking those thoughts as long as you don't wallow in sin. They should be teaching that God is forgiving. So if you're truly remorseful of your sins, you just pray for forgiveness.

The restaurant that is very openly super christian and is closed on sundays doesn't look favorably on gay people? No way.

Food's delicious. Don't care. Im sure other places are involved with worse things. Its not as if every time I get some waffle fries they execute a homosexual.

All of this. They're have been more than a few gay employees I've been helped by while ordering food. They don't discriminate, or refuse service to gay people or gay supporters, so what the hell is the problem?

And yes, whatever Christian school you went to, is a bad one. That's called brainwashing. They want to control every aspect of your life.

And yeah, they're closed on Sunday's, and are VERY open about being a Christian company. It can't be that shocking...

[psych23232323]

They might be against gay marriage, and that is their opinion, but I'm not sure if it should be taken too personally as long as they don't deny service to customers just because they're gay, or deny people jobs because they're gay. They didn't even say that they wouldn't do those things either, did they? There's even the philosophy of loving the sinner yet hating the sin. I'm against smoking, but if I ran a business, I'd still support customers who are smokers, and give jobs to smokers.

Also, that Christian school you mentioned sounds very radical. Not EVERY thought is sinful. Even the ones that are, you shouldn't go to hell just for thinking those thoughts as long as you don't wallow in sin. They should be teaching that God is forgiving. So if you're truly remorseful of your sins, you just pray for forgiveness.



I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I do worry if it would ever happen of that restaurant denying a person service or a job because he or she is a homosexual.

That's why the Christian school said you had to pray. So that whatever you said would be pure in the eyes of the Lord. They taught God was forgiving but yeah, believe me, they told me that every thought you have is sinful; that's why you had to confess your sins and pray out loud for forgiveness. If they're wrong about that, then I'm honestly grateful if they are. If it makes you feel better, that school doesn't exist anymore; got turned into a charter school.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

This thread makes me wonder why anyone would be against gay marriage, if its consenting adults who have to pay the same taxes you do, how/why does it even affect you?

[Green Machine]

The restaurant that is very openly super christian and is closed on sundays doesn't look favorably on gay people? No way.

Food's delicious. Don't care. Im sure other places are involved with worse things. Its not as if every time I get some waffle fries they execute a homosexual.

Yep. This is pretty much how I feel about it.

It's not like they refuse service to gay people. And I used to work at Chick-fil-a in high school. Trust me, they hire gay people. Or at least the one I worked at did.

[BubblyShell22]

I just heard the CEO is against gay marriage. As far as I'm concerned, he has the right to be against it if he chooses as long as he doesn't discriminate against gays and refuses to hire them. If he does that, then he's breaking the law because most jobs aren't allowed to not hire someone based on race, religion, or sexual orientation. I've never eaten at CFA, but I've heard it's good food. I'd probably try and eat there once if there was one in my area.

[Candy Kappa]

Religious group against gay marriage? Next is soda pop is bad for your health!

[AngryChad]

I wonder if you replaced the word "gay" with "black", how many people would feel differently about the situation.

[Green Machine]

I wonder if you replaced the word "gay" with "black", how many people would feel differently about the situation.

We'll never know. So there's no use bringing race into this.

[The Stryker]

I wonder if you replaced the word "gay" with "black", how many people would feel differently about the situation.

I dunno. People aren't protesting KFC and those f*ckers manipulate black culture like nobody's business. Popcorn chicken IS good though.

[Barkworm]

I wonder if you replaced the word "gay" with "black", how many people would feel differently about the situation.
This. Homophobia is just another version of racism.

[Green Machine]

This. Homophobia is just another version of racism.

Uhhh. no it's not. Gay is not a race. It may be a form of discrimination or bigotry. But by definition, it is not racism.

[Lance_Steele]

I recently read an article on Xfinity where apparently the Chick-fil-A restaurants are against gay marriage. Apparently, they've always been against gay marriage.


I've eaten there and never thought it was. Only propaganda I ever saw at that restaurant was that sign with a picture of a cow holding a sign saying thanks for eating at Chick-fil-A.


I honestly thought businesses would be more tolerant to others in this day and age.

I never saw anything wrong with gay marriage really. I mean; so a man and a woman can marry each other for money or a green card but two men or two women who love each other can't marry each other because the bible says it's wrong?

That's messed up in my opinion.

And heck, in Christianity, you can go to hell just by thinking; I learned in Christian school that every thought you have is sinful, no matter what it is you're thinking.

Anyway, I honestly am not going to eat at a restaurant that's going to hate against homosexuals.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120726/US.Chick.fil.A.Culture.Wars/?cid=hero_media

To tell you the truth it doesn't make.

Why should a freaking fast food chain even care about gay marriages?

And yes I think anyone gay or straight have a right to be happy.

[Barkworm]

Uhhh. no it's not. Gay is not a race. It may be a form of discrimination or bigotry. But by definition, it is not racism.
That's what I meant with "another version of racism". It's the the same level of stupidity in another context.

[MikeandRaph87]

Could not care what their stance is. I'm against gay marriage, but if they said they were for it, it wouldn't make me want to not eat there. So they take a stance, who cares? I don't know if it's widely known (I thought it was), but ChikFilA is a CHRISTIAN company. They don't hide that fact, they actually promote that fact.

And even though people knew that, the only thing people are upset with is the fact that the CEO formally announced it. So as long as it's not told to the masses, gay people and their supporters can just keep their heads in the sand, right?

It just doesn't make sense. So the f*** what if a company doesn't approve of gay people. It's free speech, get over it. And sadly, protesting is also free speech (but sitting outside CFA's holding dumbass signs is just stupid), so more power to 'em.

And I realize I'm in the minority in this day and age, but I'm still weighing in. It's just sad that if you take a stand against gay marriage, you get torn apart by anyone and everyone.

I agree with every word you said. I keep my anti stance to myself and only express it in the voter's booth if/when it was up on the ballot for my particular state. It would be nice if everyone did that and not crap on each other for their beliefs.

[Lance_Steele]

Can't argue with that

[Redeemer]

And heck, in Christianity, you can go to hell just by thinking; I learned in Christian school that every thought you have is sinful, no matter what it is you're thinking.


http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120726/US.Chick.fil.A.Culture.Wars/?cid=hero_media

I am sorry you were taught by such Heretics.....

But anyways Im with Nines on this one, I dont think people should really care about their social issue, bc they only reflect the head of the company and not every individual working in it

[Mona_Lisa]

Could not care what their stance is. I'm against gay marriage, but if they said they were for it, it wouldn't make me want to not eat there. So they take a stance, who cares? I don't know if it's widely known (I thought it was), but ChikFilA is a CHRISTIAN company. They don't hide that fact, they actually promote that fact.

And even though people knew that, the only thing people are upset with is the fact that the CEO formally announced it. So as long as it's not told to the masses, gay people and their supporters can just keep their heads in the sand, right?

It just doesn't make sense. So the f*** what if a company doesn't approve of gay people. It's free speech, get over it. And sadly, protesting is also free speech (but sitting outside CFA's holding dumbass signs is just stupid), so more power to 'em.

And I realize I'm in the minority in this day and age, but I'm still weighing in. It's just sad that if you take a stand against gay marriage, you get torn apart by anyone and everyone.

I feel the same way, I'm Baptist. I go to church, I'm against gay marrage But I don't hate gay people. My Fav. brother in law is gay. We get along great. He knows how I feel but I never put him down or anything. We are friends. The Bible says there is no little sins or big sins. Also says were all sinners... So, I'm no better than a gay person! I have my own sin's to battle. Jesus can save us all.
~My opinions~
Ok I'm going back to the "turtle Talk" Will not preach any more:twink:

[Storm Eagle]

I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I do worry if it would ever happen of that restaurant denying a person service or a job because he or she is a homosexual.

That's why the Christian school said you had to pray. So that whatever you said would be pure in the eyes of the Lord. They taught God was forgiving but yeah, believe me, they told me that every thought you have is sinful; that's why you had to confess your sins and pray out loud for forgiveness. If they're wrong about that, then I'm honestly grateful if they are. If it makes you feel better, that school doesn't exist anymore; got turned into a charter school.

They WERE wrong about that. Like I said though, you don't WALLOW in sin. As humans, we're liable to screw up at times, but like I said, just don't WALLOW in sin. If someone cuts you off on the road, just try to resist the urge to flip them off. If someone calls you a bad name to your face, try to resist the urge to punch them in the mouth. If you try to resist, yet fail anyway, you just ask for God's forgiveness. He knows your heart.

By the way, I attended a Catholic high school, and they even had Jewish teachers. There might have even been some gay teachers too. There were definitely a few openly gay students as well. I knew a Jewish woman who was even a dean at a Catholic school.

I just heard the CEO is against gay marriage. As far as I'm concerned, he has the right to be against it if he chooses as long as he doesn't discriminate against gays and refuses to hire them.

Or pass them over for promotions.

To tell you the truth it doesn't make.

Why should a freaking fast food chain even care about gay marriages?

And yes I think anyone gay or straight have a right to be happy.

Well gay does mean happy. :)

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

An alderman in Chicago wants to ban Chick-fil-A restaurants, the mayor of Chicago is supporting the alderman, and Jim Henson Co is pulling their toys from that restaurant.

In the Chicagoland area, said alderman and mayor are drawing ridicule for that-considering they associate with the likes of Louis Farrakhan, among other reasons.

[Candy Kappa]

Over 1500 recorded species have same-sex sexual behavior, it's not a Homo Sapiens thing only.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Over 1500 recorded species have same-sex sexual behavior, it's not a Homo Sapiens thing only.

And male seahorses are the ones who carry the unborn.

And slugs and earthworms are hermaphrodites, so homosexuality is impossible for them.

[Candy Kappa]

And male seahorses are the ones who carry the unborn.

And slugs and earthworms are hermaphrodites, so homosexuality is impossible for them.

Don't forget the New Mexico whiptail. It consists of females only, and engage in mock mating to increase the fertility of their eggs.

[Zulithe]

It's been common knowledge since they opened that they were a Christian-based company, their stance doesn't surprise me, but the way in which they heartlessly felt it had to be proclaimed does. As a gay person I don't think I will be eating there... but to be honest I've NEVER eaten there yet. So far in life I've just never come across one of their restaurants. And for the time being, I think I am okay continuing that way.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, I don't agree that the CEO had to even make that statement. He should've just kept it to himself. If he was asked about it, then I could see where he'd make the statement, but I don't think he was asked. I think he just outright said it.

[愛]

I'm sure the massacred chickens used for their chicken sandwiches are against gay marriage, too. How dare they!

[Green Machine]

I'm sure the massacred chickens used for their chicken sandwiches are against gay marriage, too. How dare they!

Screw them, they taste good! :D

[thelouisguy]

They are called Chick-fil-A, not Dude-fil-A.

♫ Closed on Sundays, we ain't Gay-fil-A ♫

[Candy Kappa]

As long as they aren't funding anti groups that are against same-sex marriage, I see no trouble eating their food.

[Duke]

Anyway, I honestly am not going to eat at a restaurant that's going to hate against homosexuals.I wouldn't say being against same sex marriage means you hate homosexuals.

I'm not surprised they are against same sex marriage. I'm not sure it's a good business strategy in today's world to come out and say that though.

[Candy Kappa]

Maybe not hate, but still those who are against same sex marriage is still against homosexuals having the same rights as "normal" people have.

[Green Machine]

Maybe not hate, but still those who are against same sex marriage is still against homosexuals having the same rights as "normal" people have.

So homosexuals aren't normal people?

[Storm Eagle]

Yeah, I don't agree that the CEO had to even make that statement. He should've just kept it to himself. If he was asked about it, then I could see where he'd make the statement, but I don't think he was asked. I think he just outright said it.
I can see what you mean by that.
So homosexuals aren't normal people?

I'm pretty sure that's not what he's saying. He did put "normal" in quotation marks.

[Candy Kappa]

So homosexuals aren't normal people?

Hah, you're funny. Re-read my post.

[Green Machine]

Hah, you're funny. Re-read my post.

Ha! I know what you meant. I was screwin' with ya. :P

[Dane E5R]

I wonder if you replaced the word "gay" with "black", how many people would feel differently about the situation.

I agree with this 110%. Though it is well within their rights to have their opinions or beliefs, you could say the same about folks who choose to discriminate against blacks, or any other race for that matter. Bottom line is, discrimination is wrong, and it's a shame that we haven't learned this by now.

[Mr.Turtle]

Hah, you're funny. Re-read my post.

Ha! I know what you meant. I was screwin' with ya. :P


lol u both r funny.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

I agree with this 110%. Though it is well within their rights to have their opinions or beliefs, you could say the same about folks who choose to discriminate against blacks, or any other race for that matter. Bottom line is, discrimination is wrong, and it's a shame that we haven't learned this by now.

Sorry, opposing gay marriage is not the same thing at all. Claiming that is discrimnination is quite disingenuous, any more than it is discrimination to be against having multiple wives (which is commonplace in many other cultures).

[BubblyShell22]

It is discrimination when people want to ban gay marriage in certain states and forbid gay couples from adopting.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

It is discrimination when people want to ban gay marriage in certain states and forbid gay couples from adopting.

Actually, a government cannot ban gay marriage so much as make it into law-or not. In the US, marriage laws are determined by each state in their jurisdictions.

[Dane E5R]

Sorry, opposing gay marriage is not the same thing at all. Claiming that is discrimnination is quite disingenuous, any more than it is discrimination to be against having multiple wives (which is commonplace in many other cultures).

It is absolutely discrimination. It's "this is a right that straight people can have, but you can't, because you're gay." That's discrimination. Just as much as it was when interracial marriages weren't allowed.

[JaffleMan]

Personally I support gay marriage, but a business openly opposing gay marriage wouldn't stop me from being a patron as it really doesn't effect me. And I can understand and respect why some people may be against the idea, if only for religous/traditional beliefs. I will spare you all of the lengthy meat pie anology i was going to share to explain this ;)

However If somthing does effect my way of living or values I hold really, really high, like marine conservation, and an entity were to be against or neglegent towards those values, like British petroleum (BP petrol/gas), then i would NEVER shop there but at the same time be ok if others decided to. **boring example below.


For example after several repeat oil spills and a lack of serious effort to prevent future spills BP tried to cover up the gulf of mexico incident in 2010 by limitting media coverage. In outrage I have been boycotting BP for over 2 years now. The only time I have set foot in store since was to buy milk for my inlaws who gave me the money to do so and only a BP station was open. Sure if it were milk for myself I would have gone without but those are my values not theirs so I bought the milk for them without shame or regret .

Also I wonder what Chick-Fil-A's stance on this would be?

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/6922013/man-marries-pillow/

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

It is absolutely discrimination. It's "this is a right that straight people can have, but you can't, because you're gay." That's discrimination. Just as much as it was when interracial marriages weren't allowed.

Then do you call it discrimination when someone wants to have several wives but cannot? (It's not legal in Utah, BTW.)

[Andrew NDB]

We really are living in a society that's truly run out of real problems, aren't we?

[Leo656]

Agreed. I've long thought that a big chunk of society's problems would vanish overnight if we all suddenly stopped caring so much who everyone else was f*cking.

And let's be real, it's pretty damn hard to say, with a straight face, "I have nothing against gay people, I just think gay marriage is wrong." What a person means when they say that is: "The very thought of a guy screwing another guy is totally disgusting to me, but I know it isn't gonna stop and I accept it as long as I can pretend it doesn't happen. BUT, when these people start getting married and acting all homosexual in public, in front of me and my children, well, I can no longer ignore it and thus it becomes A Huge Deal. Because I think it's gross and my opinions trump others' rights to be happy."

Nobody against gay marriage is okay with people being gay. Period. It's just that they know what a bigot they sound like and are ashamed of themselves. And shame is a pretty good indicator that you're wrong. If you were "OK" with it, you'd realize that most people just want to be left alone and live the same kind of life others do without being judged for it.

The biggest problem I have with gay marriage isn't that they're gay, it's that marriage is a pretty stupid thing to do no matter who you are. And I used the "two guys" example above because many of the most homophobic people I know are voracious consumers of lesbo porn, thus I'm pretty sure most people's anti-gay prejudice is solely based on there being too much penis in one place at one time, nothing more. Pretty dumb.

[愛]

I find it just special that people are trying to boycott their restaurants. What are they trying to accomplish, force him to change his mind about dudes banging other dudes? Is a man not entitled to his opinion? It's not like he's going around crashing weddings.

I personally find the concept of men getting intimate with each other rather gross, and I'm not even a lesbian porn guy. But really, people can do whatever they want with their life. I'd be pretty upset if someone came to my door and said I can't play video games anymore because it's immoral or whichever social norm you would like to apply to it.

[themaxonline]

I wonder if you replaced the word "gay" with "black", how many people would feel differently about the situation.

Thank you!

I guarantee that if that were the case, this would be a much bigger issue than it is. It's not about making this an issue about race, it's questioning why one form of discrimination is okay when we all know another form isn't.

I'm all for discussion and debate but I have YET to hear or read one solid reason as to why gays can't get married. Allowing two men or two women to marry has zero effect on anyone else's marriage just like allowing a black man to marry a white woman has no effect. People getting divorced and remarrying two, three, four times has no effect either. If marriage was strictly a religious thing, sure, you have a case. But being a country that allows religious freedoms, or the freedom to not be religious, shouldn't allow religion to dictate the rights and freedoms of those who don't subscribe to it.

As for supporting the company. It's well within the rights of anyone who chooses to eat there why they do or not, or if they even need a reason. But the money spent here may go toward funding organizations with a purpose of discriminating against and limiting the rights of gays. It's not so much about the opinion of the CEO here. It's about the actions of the company that actively work to restrict gay rights.


I find it just special that people are trying to boycott their restaurants. What are they trying to accomplish, force him to change his mind about dudes banging other dudes? Is a man not entitled to his opinion? It's not like he's going around crashing weddings.

Money talks.

I think the boycotting thing won't do much in the long run but it can set an example for other companies in similar situations.

[Mr.Turtle]

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Also I wonder what Chick-Fil-A's stance on this would be?

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/world/6922013/man-marries-pillow/

u mean they wont let ppl marry this kinda pillow?
http://i47.tinypic.com/2vnrx1c.jpg

[The Stryker]

As for supporting the company. It's well within the rights of anyone who chooses to eat there why they do or not, or if they even need a reason. But the money spent here may go toward funding organizations with a purpose of discriminating against and limiting the rights of gays. It's not so much about the opinion of the CEO here. It's about the actions of the company that actively work to restrict gay rights.

What actions has the company really taken? Do the commercials or billboards say "Eat Mor Chikin. Except for the gays. F*ck 'em!" ? I don't think so.

The CEO's opinion isn't right but it's really just his opinion. The restaurants are NOT attacking homosexuals and there's no proof that money made goes to 'anti-gay' organizations.

I would respond the same way if it was a black thing. Since people like to bring that up for EVERYTHING. If it's an opinion and stays that way without actively hurting anybody...whatever dawg. Eat them fries.

[rav4ge]

I was pretty bummed to find this out, especially since I haven't eaten at Chick-Fil-A since I lived in Austin, TX all those years ago. This news rather stifled my craving.

It won't stop me from eating there eventually, but I get all the concern and anger/frustration. It's hard to want to support a business that doesn't support people being happy, essentially.

[愛]

I'm going to Chick-Fil-a on Friday for my weekly guilty pleasure meal. Can't wait, their chicken sandwich is so anti-gay delicious!

[Candy Kappa]

I will never eat there, ever.

By obvious reasons :P

[BubblyShell22]

I might try their food just once, but I don't support their stance about gay marriage. And I really hope they don't fund their money to anti-gay programs. If they do, then I definitely won't eat there.

[themaxonline]

What actions has the company really taken? Do the commercials or billboards say "Eat Mor Chikin. Except for the gays. F*ck 'em!" ? I don't think so.

The CEO's opinion isn't right but it's really just his opinion. The restaurants are NOT attacking homosexuals and there's no proof that money made goes to 'anti-gay' organizations.

I would respond the same way if it was a black thing. Since people like to bring that up for EVERYTHING. If it's an opinion and stays that way without actively hurting anybody...whatever dawg. Eat them fries.

An opinion is an opinion and we can all have one but his opinion goes beyond having one. His company is giving money to organizations that are anti-gay. Hasn't this already been established? It's been known already and the organizations that have been funded by this company are involved not only in the gay marriage issue but also in "curing" gays plus one of the company has been involved in the "kill the gays" bill in Uganda, though backed out from that a year later after the flack the bill received.

People can eat there if they want but don't diminish the issue to it being simply the opinion of the CEO.

[愛]

Is there a source that proves he's been funding anti-dude-banging?

[Leo656]

Most recently here, where it briefly mentions specifically who they've donated to over the years: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/chick-fil-a-manager-rogue-sponsors-new-hampshire-gay-pride-fest-article-1.1127401#ixzz22PVnoxqz

Apparently they've donated millions of dollars over the years to groups like Focus on the Family and the Family Research Council. In addition to opposing gay marriage, Focus on the Family opposes allowing gay couples to adopt children, and Family Research Council researcher Peter Spriggs told MSNBC’s Chris Matthews that he supports the idea of “criminal sanctions against homosexual behavior.” Family Research Council out of Colorado Springs is one of the Southern Poverty Law's identified hate groups.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/family-research-council

So yeah, it's out there and they have. So bsically, if you do eat at Chick-Fil-A, there IS a chance some of your money might be given to groups that want to trample people's human rights and throw people in jail for who they consensually sleep with. Just sayin'. It may not seem like a big deal, but ask yourself honestly, if it turned out the dude was sending millions to support a Fourth Reich, would you be so quick to laugh it off?

Also interesting to note that Chick-Fil-A did record business the other day, with so many people lined up they had to turn people away from various restaurants. All fine, but as a friend pointed out to me: You never see so many "Christians" lined up a mile long outside a soup kitchen to help the poor or the homeless, do you? Since people love quoting the Bible so much with anti-gay rhetoric, why don't they bother with that part, since it was actually something Jesus told people to do? Helping those less fortunate, and all that? So to those people that went on Appreciation Day I simply ask: you're too busy to do that, but it's of vital importance to wait on a line for an hour for a greasy chicken sandwich just to support someone's anti-gay agenda? I just fnd that very interesting. Kinda funny how nothing brings people together like hating someone else and calling it "Free Speech". I'm ridiculously passionate about free speech, but I also firmly believe you can judge someone by the friends they keep and who they support and associate with. They're run by bigots, like it or not.

In any case, it's pretty stupid that any company that specializes in serving up hot meat - specifically "Hot C*ck Meat" (Chickens? "C*cks"? Get it?) - in between a set of warm buns would have an anti-gay agenda. The irony is palpable.

[ToTheNines]

One time I went to Chik-fil-a and ordered a dicken sandwich. They just gave me a regular chicken sandwich though.

[GK Punk]

An opinion is an opinion and we can all have one but his opinion goes beyond having one. His company is giving money to organizations that are anti-gay. Hasn't this already been established? It's been known already and the organizations that have been funded by this company are involved not only in the gay marriage issue but also in "curing" gays plus one of the company has been involved in the "kill the gays" bill in Uganda, though backed out from that a year later after the flack the bill received.

People can eat there if they want but don't diminish the issue to it being simply the opinion of the CEO.

This is how I feel about it. I personally won't go there as long as they give money to those organizations. I'm not going to tell others what to do with their money, but I don't feel okay with spending mine there currently.

[Leo656]

More or less. People at least should make educated decisions, though, and then decide with their wallets if they want to support a place that may be giving money to organizations with hateful agendas.

Kind of a moot point over here, I don't see many Chick-Fil-As in NJ, if any. I dig Subway.

[Barkworm]

Leo, it's not often that I find myself agreeing with you but your posts in this thread reflect my thoughts on this 100 per cent.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, I feel the same way. People are able to waste their time going to a restaurant to support their anti-gay agenda, but what about going to work and actually earning money? Don't people have to do that, too? I've heard that there's going to be a gay sit in at some restaurants, and I hope they do it, too.

[psych23232323]

Looks like Gay rights Activists are responding.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120803/US.Chick.fil.A.Gay.Marriage/?cid=hero_media

Yeah, I think if you ever open your own business, you should keep your political views to yourself.

[Green Machine]

It would be funny if they were arrested for loitering.

[Leo656]

Leo, it's not often that I find myself agreeing with you but your posts in this thread reflect my thoughts on this 100 per cent.

Really? That's interesting to me, I always thought we got along just fine. Maybe we had a misunderstanding somewhere along the lines. Wanna talk about it? I'm really a nice guy in general once you get past my hardened exterior, and I LOVE to hug.

No Homo.

.......What? :lol:

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Looks like Gay rights Activists are responding.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120803/US.Chick.fil.A.Gay.Marriage/?cid=hero_media

Yeah, I think if you ever open your own business, you should keep your political views to yourself.

Tell that to Ben and Jerry. :tlol:

[Barkworm]

Really? That's interesting to me, I always thought we got along just fine. Maybe we had a misunderstanding somewhere along the lines. Wanna talk about it? I'm really a nice guy in general once you get past my hardened exterior, and I LOVE to hug.

No Homo.

.......What? :lol:
Haha, I don't think we ever had a fight or anything, I literally just meant that I often have a different opinion on political topics. I didn't mean that we don't get along.

[mysterycolor]

An opinion is an opinion and we can all have one but his opinion goes beyond having one. His company is giving money to organizations that are anti-gay. Hasn't this already been established? It's been known already and the organizations that have been funded by this company are involved not only in the gay marriage issue but also in "curing" gays plus one of the company has been involved in the "kill the gays" bill in Uganda, though backed out from that a year later after the flack the bill received.

People can eat there if they want but don't diminish the issue to it being simply the opinion of the CEO.
it also becomes more than just a casual stating of opinion when people like santorum & palin come out to support someone who supports anti-gay organizations... it sends a dangerous message to our country because, as you may remember, just a few months ago those were both people who wanted to be the president of the united states.

[Sage Ninja]

So yeah, it's out there and they have. So bsically, if you do eat at Chick-Fil-A, there IS a chance some of your money might be given to groups that want to trample people's human rights and throw people in jail for who they consensually sleep with. Just sayin'. It may not seem like a big deal, but ask yourself honestly, if it turned out the dude was sending millions to support a Fourth Reich, would you be so quick to laugh it off?

Also interesting to note that Chick-Fil-A did record business the other day, with so many people lined up they had to turn people away from various restaurants. All fine, but as a friend pointed out to me: You never see so many "Christians" lined up a mile long outside a soup kitchen to help the poor or the homeless, do you? Since people love quoting the Bible so much with anti-gay rhetoric, why don't they bother with that part, since it was actually something Jesus told people to do? Helping those less fortunate, and all that? So to those people that went on Appreciation Day I simply ask: you're too busy to do that, but it's of vital importance to wait on a line for an hour for a greasy chicken sandwich just to support someone's anti-gay agenda? I just fnd that very interesting. Kinda funny how nothing brings people together like hating someone else and calling it "Free Speech". I'm ridiculously passionate about free speech, but I also firmly believe you can judge someone by the friends they keep and who they support and associate with. They're run by bigots, like it or not.

In any case, it's pretty stupid that any company that specializes in serving up hot meat - specifically "Hot C*ck Meat" (Chickens? "C*cks"? Get it?) - in between a set of warm buns would have an anti-gay agenda. The irony is palpable.

I agree with everything you just said. I'm Christian but really alot of the time I see Christain uniting to partcipate in the more hateful and self rightous activities than in helping people in genuian need.

Kinda funny how nothing brings people together like hating someone else and calling it "Free Speech".

best quote ever. And very true.

anyway, some random shmuck just got himself fired from his prestigious job because he felt the need to lecture some Chik-fil-A window girl and video tape it. Apparently his company didn't care for the PR his actions brought to his company.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/02/adam-smith-chick-fil-a-drive-bully_n_1735357.html?1343959955&icid=maing-grid7%7Chp-desktop%7Cdl4%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D187690

a break down of the exchange between the customer "smith" and the girl.

Smith: "You know why I'm getting my free water, right?"

Worker: "No."

S: "Because Chick-Fil-A is a hateful corporation."

W: "I disagree. We don't treat any of our customers differently.."

S: "I know, but the corporation gives money to hate groups. Hate groups. Just because people want to kiss another guy."

W: "I'm staying neutral on this subject... my personal beliefs don't belong in the workplace."

S: "Yeah I believe that too, I don't believe corporations should be giving money to hateful groups.. I'll take my water"

W: "I'm really uncomfortable that you're videotaping this.."

W: "It's my pleasure to serve you, always."

S: "Oh of course, I'm glad that I can take a little bit of money from Chick-Fil-A, and maybe less money to hate groups."

W: "Well we're always happy to serve all our guests."

S: "I don't know how you live with yourself and work here. I don't understand it. This is a horrible corporation with horrible values. You deserve better."

W: "I hope you have a really nice day, and.."

S: "I will, I just did something really good, I feel purposeful, thank you so much."

S: "Have a good day... I'm a nice guy by the way, and I'm totally heterosexual.. not a gay [unintelligible] in me, I just can't stand the hate, you know? It's gotta stop, guys. Stand up."


you know what I find funny, is that after he lectures this girl about gay intolerance he feels the need to through out the disclaimer "by the way, I'm totally heterosexual..." :lol: He just had to be quick to assert that he was not straight and not gay. I notice alot of people who defend gays are quick to through out this disclaimer.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

This controversy is totally overblown. If you don't like what the CEO of Chick-Fil-A says, you're not forced to do business with them. And equating disagreement with the idea of gay marriage as "hate" is laughable. It's like criticizing the President and being labelled "unpatriotic".

[BubblyShell22]

But in a way, it is hate because he's saying that gays don't have the right to marry based on a belief system which is so outdated, it's not even funny. The CEO is promoting hate by stating that gays don't have to have the same rights as heterosexuals. I thought this country was based on the assumption that everyone is created equal. It's too bad that religion has pretty much ousted this belief and caused people to believe that people who are different shouldn't have the equal rights that others have in this country. It's just so sad how this is happening.

Look, if you don't believe in gay marriage, fine. But why should politicians try to control what should be basic rights for anybody living here? And why should a CEO even say something like that? He should've kept it to himself unless he was asked about it. But instead, he stated his views and has now caused a huge controversy. The more that I hear about this, the more that I feel I don't want to eat at a restaurant with such a hateful agenda.

[Green Machine]

Seriously, the word hate is thrown around way too much in this thread. It's almost like people are brain washed into thinking that you hate something if you don't support it.

[Dane E5R]

Leo is the man in this thread.

[Leo656]

"Hate" is a different thing than "I don't agree with", yes... in many cases. But when a person says something against, or gives money to people who discriminate against, the privacy of consenting adults, or says they should be criminals based on what they do, that ceases to become "disagreeing" and starts to become "violating their rights to privacy, love, and happiness".

Here's the thing: I don't for one second, not for ONE SECOND think anyone on this Earth genuinely has the idea that gays are "bad" because of any religious reasoning, regardless of what religion they are, because most religions have some sort of disclaimer prohibiting homosexual behavior. How odd, they all disagree about so many things, but they all agree gays (and chicks) have no human rights. Kinda convenient, in my opinion. But anyway, when people start talking about "morality" or "The Bible says this" or anything, what they *really* mean is, "Dude, look, I just think its f*cking gross and I don't think anyone should do it, EVER, because even if I'm not looking at it, just knowing someone's out there doing it right now OH GOD NO IT'S SO DISGUSTING!" That's all it is, not wanting someone to do something that makes them happy just because you find it personally distasteful. That's hate. Period.

And I think people should just say what they really mean instead of hiding behind books, words, and scriptures they probably haven't read, so much as cherry-picked to find buzzwords that match their personal philosophy.

Some things in life are a little more open to debate, but I don't think this really is. Here it is: If gay people shouldn't be gay, if they shouldn't be allowed to get married, be miserable, and eventually get divorced like everyone else can, and if they shouldn't be allowed to raise children... you need a good reason WHY, other than "It's just plain bad". By the very foundation of opinion, it turns these people into criminals for something they don't have any control over. And if you think people choose to be gay, explain why anyone would CHOOSE a life full of hatred and persecution just for the privilege of spanking another dude? That's not "choice", that's more like "penance", and for what? The only "choice" involved is in choosing to live a lie and hate yourself, or be "out" and be hated and looked down on by everyone else. Some choice. I think people deserve the right as human beings to be who they really are, without having to worry they're going to lose their job, lose their family, or be thrown in jail for having "deviant sexual interests," unless they involve children or dead bodies.

To be fair, I'm not very close to the subject, I don't even have any gay friends that I'm aware of. I'm just very uncomfortable with the fact that so many people can say "I don't hate them, I just think it's wrong/I'm just against it" as if it's significantly different. It's not different at all, you're saying people shouldn't do what makes them happy, and aside from rape, drugs, murder, and necrophilia, I think people have the right to do what makes them happy. I keep thinking of stuff like V For Vendetta where cops kick in your door and drag you off to some prison camp for being gay, and I ask, "Who the f*ck honestly wants to live in that world?" Even if you don't care for gay people, do we really want to even take a step towards that path, over something so trivial? I don't think so. Being "Different" should not be the same thing as being "criminal". It's just too thin a line for my tastes.

But then again, I feel sex changes are totally immoral, people who have them done are mentally troubled and in need of treatment, and any doctor who consents to performing the procedure should be prosecuted. But that's a whole different argument about how surgical mutilation can't undo genetics and DNA, and other things not entirely relevant to this. But feel free to call me a hypocrite.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

BTW I should mention that I do know one half of an actual gay married couple. (I met him on a furry forum.) I don't know if anyone else here has met an actual gay married couple, but he does agree with me that if gay marriage is a right, so is having multiple spouses. Anyone says that isn't the same thing?

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

And Leo, you are absolutely going to LOVE this! (http://malepregnancy.com/)

[Leo656]

HAH, gross.

But anyway I think having multiple spouses is a dumb idea, but mostly because I think even having ONE is too many in most cases. I don't think it's the worst thing in human history, and in fact it's an idea as old as time itself.

Personally, I could see the benefit of having a "spare". Help keep the other ones in line and all that, knowing they could be replaced at any time like squeaky wheels.

Y'know what, F*ck That polygamy f*cking rules.

Actually nevermind, I've been with ONE batsh*t insane chick for 12 years, I can't imagine juggling a troupe. And imagine all of them getting their periods at the same time, since that tends to happen when women live in close quarters? Good GOD no.

So I don't have as solid of an opinion on that one. I still just think it's stupid, because I think relationships are stupid, not because "It's supposed to be one guy/one girl." You know who made that rule? Some guy who never got laid before, trying to make sure his chick never left him for a guy with a bigger hose. Monogamy goes against every single fiber of our DNA and our human need to reproduce. If anything, monogamy is the "deviant" behavior because we're going against a genetically engineered instinct that exists in most creatures.

Or maybe I just think it's better to f*ck around. I definitely don't think marriage is anything sacred worth protecting, it's honestly a f*cking joke. But anyone who wants to should be able to. I also support suicide. People deserve the freedom to make terrible decisions.

[Katie]

I personally don't have a problem with polygamy or polyandry, as long as everyone involved is a consenting adult....really, as long as the party's involved are all consenting, why should any person outside the relationship even care?

What is "traditional" anyway. Who's tradition? What if one religion allows multiple wives or husbands? Why are they not free to pursue their religious beliefs? For a country that is supposed to separate church and state, we sure have a lot of laws that restrict things that don't fit the anglo christian norm.

Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. As long as no one else is being hut by it why restrict a group's right to their own happiness.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

I personally don't have a problem with polygamy or polyandry, as long as everyone involved is a consenting adult....really, as long as the party's involved are all consenting, why should any person outside the relationship even care?

What is "traditional" anyway. Who's tradition? What if one religion allows multiple wives or husbands? Why are they not free to pursue their religious beliefs? For a country that is supposed to separate church and state, we sure have a lot of laws that restrict things that don't fit the anglo christian norm.

Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. As long as no one else is being hut by it why restrict a group's right to their own happiness.

This is only a Wikipedia article, but the information is probably largely accurate on this subject. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy)

[Mr.Turtle]

More or less. People at least should make educated decisions, though, and then decide with their wallets if they want to support a place that may be giving money to organizations with hateful agendas.

Kind of a moot point over here, I don't see many Chick-Fil-As in NJ, if any. I dig Subway.

how can u compare subway with some junk food....

[Sage Ninja]

how can u compare subway with some junk food....

...will you stop picking out the most inane comments in every topic and making some stupid remark thats completely unrelated to the topic at hand?

[Leo656]

Eh, maybe he don't know no better and he's occasionally funny by accident, like Rain Man. Rain Man was a comedy, right? Or did I just totally not get it?

[愛]

I actually have three Chick-Fil-a places near me, and I live in NJ. I live in South Jersey, though, so maybe it's different for where you are.

[Koi]

The Cinema's around my area have actual problems compared to this Chick-Fil-A place. They don't allow movies to be shown that have black men and woman as lead characters.

Having an opinion isn't a bad thing, it is just some fast food restaurant anyway. Frankly I have never heard of them before.

[Leo656]

I actually have three Chick-Fil-a places near me, and I live in NJ. I live in South Jersey, though, so maybe it's different for where you are.

Could be, I'm more Central but I go all over for work, could be I just don't pay enough attention.

[Jelly Bean]

It is funny to see the bigots and homophobics rally to this thing. Some of my parents friends have jumped on board of this thing in support. There isn't even a chick-fil-a around where I live, and my parents and their friends have traveled over an hour out of town to eat at the closest Chick-fil-a. Next sunday, I'm going to be expected to go as well, which is replacing our normal sunday dinner. I'm not looking foward to it. This sort of thing disgusts me. I don't what all the hate is about.

It's not even really hate for gay people in general, because gay women seem to be ok for the most part, it's just gay men. Which really boils down to what gets some guys off and what turns them off, as what is acceptable or "immoral." Two chicks tongue wrestling at a your friends cocktail party--hell yeah! Two dudes doing it, OMG that is immoral and gross, get it out of my face! :roll:

it's pretty stupid that any company that specializes in serving up hot meat - specifically "Hot C*ck Meat" (Chickens? "C*cks"? Get it?) - in between a set of warm buns would have an anti-gay agenda. The irony is palpable.


this is just too funny. So quote-worthy!

[Katie]

It will be a wasted trip if you're going on Sunday. They aren't open on Sundays.

I disagree with the stance of the guy....but he has the right to say that. Totally stupid to represent an opinion like that when you are speaking for a business, but no one should be surprised that an openly Christian business would have that stance.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

It is funny to see the bigots and homophobics rally to this thing. Some of my parents friends have jumped on board of this thing in support. There isn't even a chick-fil-a around where I live, and my parents and their friends have traveled over an hour out of town to eat at the closest Chick-fil-a. Next sunday, I'm going to be expected to go as well, which is replacing our normal sunday dinner. I'm not looking foward to it. This sort of thing disgusts me. I don't what all the hate is about.

It's even funnier to hear all this sanctimonious screaming about hate and bigotry. These people are worse than the worst fundamentalist Christians. No doubt the public is rallying behind Chick-fil-A as a way of giving them the proverbial middle finger. And who can blame them? :roll:

[Xav]

it also becomes more than just a casual stating of opinion when people like santorum & palin come out to support someone who supports anti-gay organizations... it sends a dangerous message to our country because, as you may remember, just a few months ago those were both people who wanted to be the president of the united states.
Uh, Palin wasn't in the presidential primary.
It is funny to see the bigots and homophobics rally to this thing.So everyone who doesn't 100% agree with you must be a bigot and a homophobic? Wow you sound like a bigot yourself.

You know Antoine Dodson from the "Bed Intruder" video came out in support of Chick-Fil-A. Yeah I know why should you care about him? Well he's an openly gay man. It's sad when an Internet celebrity seems to be the only sane person in this debate.
http://www.inquisitr.com/286126/antoine-dodson-supports-chick-fil-a-says-that-chains-position-is-no-reason-not-to-eat-bangin-waffle-fries/

[ThePickleweed]

the gays should be so lucky they arent allowed to marry. i wish they would outlaw hetero marriages too. lol. kidding, but this idea that marriage is some divine structure as opposed to business negotiation with the state............as you can tell, im not religous......

as far as chik fila is concerned, i think there are 2 differing issues going on here. there is their view. and then there is their right to state their view. and i believe people are rallying over the latter instead of the former.

i dont agree with their view.
i do agree with their right to say it.

and further more, why the hell does everyone love chickfila anyways? the sandwiches are small, expensive and dont come with any condiments on them! what the hell man. this is 'murica! sauce that mess up! im protesting their crap sandwiches.

[Leo656]

Everyone has the right to free speech. It's absolutely one of the most important rights we as humans have.

The problem is that we are all indeed human. And when one or more human beings says to another specific group of human beings, "You are, in some way, less than us, not as good as us, and don't deserve to be treated as equal to us, you don't have the exact same rights the rest of us human beings have," it diminishes and can indeed come to criminalize that group being spoken to/of. And that is wrong. There is simply no way it is NOT wrong.

All people have the exact same rights by their very definition as "human beings". That includes free speech, the right to eat over-priced fast-food chicken sandwiches, and the right for everyone, even gay people, to get married. You have the right to disagree with that concept, that everyone is "allowed" do the exact same things as everyone else, but I personally think it's kinda nuts.

You either believe "all men are created equal", or you don't. Seems pretty simple to me. Sure, you can say "This person has the right to segregate a group of people and give them a different list of what's 'Allowed' and what isn't, to say they're 'not equal' to everyone else," but when has that ever worked out well? I seem to remember things starting that way for Hitler and ending with him blowing his brains out after a lot of people were needlessly killed in between. For being "different", and not being allowed the same basic rights as everyone else.

When you look at the big picture, there's really no difference at all.

[Xav]

Ok to play devil advocate for a second gay people do have the same rights as everyone else a gay man can still marry a women and a gay women can still marry a man, but what about people who want to marry a kid or marry an animal would you say they don't have the same rights as every else?

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Leo, if you're trying to make pro-gay marriage people look idiotic, you couldn't have done better. Opposition to gay marriage is nothing like Naziism. It's not denying homosexuals any rights that anyone else has. It's not denying them the right to live together, to vote, to work, or anything else whatsoever that anyone else doesn't have. So you might want to avoid such cheap comparisons in the future if you want to be taken seriously.

[Xav]

Yup Leo just invoked Godwin's Law.

[KROW]

Anyone who's against gay marriage is a religious bigot and even though I don't normally express any Pentecostal belief, I think anyone who judges or persecutes others based on sexual preference will have no place in God's House. Marriage is an expression of love and getting a marriage license is an expression of taxation. Religion has nothing to do with it until someone puts it there. Homosexuals have every right to be as miserable and unhappy as everyone else. Let them get married; who does it hurt?

As for Chick-Fil-A, I think Maddox said it best:

Chick-Fil-A's claim to fame is that they "invented" the chicken sandwich. Yes, these chumps have the audacity to claim that they were the first people in history to take chicken, first domesticated in 6000 BC, and bread, a staple of the Neolithic era, and put them together. Again, because this warrants repeating, they're claiming that before 1967, nobody in history thought to eat chicken with bread.

Making a claim that obnoxious is begging people to be critical about their sandwich. So what makes their "invention" so special? Well, nothing. It's just chicken and bread (pickles optional). That's it. And like Po-Boys, the chicken is breaded, so you're eating bread on bread.

The bun is the same deflated fast-food bun you can expect from other sh*thole franchises like McDonald's, with a sinkhole-like depression in the middle. The pickles are sparsely placed on the bun; you get exactly two, meted by a tight-fisted employee. I wouldn't be surprised if they weighed each slice. Often the two pickles are grabbed together and placed on the bun so they're overlapping, further reducing the surface area of the sandwich that includes a bite of their stingy pickles.

And the chicken itself? BORING. The breast is the most overrated part of a chicken. Thighs are way jucier than chicken breasts, yet all you idiots keep ordering breasts to be "healthy." Well guess what? The difference in calories of a cup of breast versus thigh is 62 calories. I lose that many calories in the heat my brain emits while I sh*t in the Chick-Fil-A sack I'm about to return. One of the ingredients is "calcium propionate," and according to their website, it's used:

"...to retard spoilage"

Mission accomplished guys, because your whole sandwich is retarded.

[Xav]

Anyone who's against gay marriage is a religious bigot and even though I don't normally express any Pentecostal belief, I think anyone who judges or persecutes others based on sexual preference will have no place in God's House. Marriage is an expression of love and getting a marriage license is an expression of taxation. Religion has nothing to do with it until someone puts it there. Homosexuals have every right to be as miserable and unhappy as everyone else. Let them get married; who does it hurt?

As for Chick-Fil-A, I think Maddox said it best: Guess what I know non-religious people who are against gay marriage. Your a bigot against anyone who doesn't perfectly line up with your political beliefs.

[Hero]

How does the opinion from a company ethos regarding a subject pose a threat to it?

[KROW]

Guess what I know non-religious people who are against gay marriage. Your a bigot against anyone who doesn't perfectly line up with your political beliefs.

I don't have any political beliefs.

Anti-gay anything all ties into religion. Just because people don't go to church nor read the bible may mean they're not religious, but they still have religion. They were raised a certain way, and that raising was done with religious beliefs as a basis. People may be clear-minded enough to not judge others based on creed or do not use theirs in a harsh manner, but can still view homosexuals as evil, wrong, or just get uncomfortable because of how they grew up. Their parents were taught by their parents who were taught that gay=bad so it's just something that continues whether it's passive or blatant. Anyone who is against gay marriage because of any political, national, federal, or legal ramifications is an idiot and a liar. Homosexuality does not directly affect any of those. Gay is considered "icky" by the religious, no two ways about it.

You're a bigot against bigotry. Work out of that quandary.

[themaxonline]

I don't necessarily think all anti-gay sentiment ties into religion directly but I think it is the main source. Some people that aren't religious could still be against it due to fear, distaste, or yes, because they hate anything that isn't like them (non-white, non-straight, non-christian).

In the end for me, it all comes down to one thing. One side expressing their "freedom of speech", which is fine but that freedom of speech is essentially limiting the rights of another group of people. So in the end, someone isn't going to get what they want. Who should that be? A group who are upset because something didn't go their way even though in the end, has *NO* direct effect on them, or a group who aren't allowed to lawfully (not religiously) marry who they love among other rights. Basically, gay people are being withheld certain allowances that others do have. A man or woman's partner is dying in the hospital? They can be disallowed from seeing them because they weren't allowed to marry or be given any sort of rights as a couple. Why? Because a group of people somewhere didn't want that to happen. How has their lives changed because of this? It hasn't other than to give them a smug look.

I don't think people should be allowed to dictate how I live because of their religious beliefs. Think what you want. Say it, even. But it just doesn't make sense to me that they should be allowed to use their own religious beliefs to dictate every other person's way of life when it has no effect on their own.

[Cure]

The same way gay marriage affects no one, neither does one dude's opinion, even if it is messed up.

[Raven]

Thought this was kind of funny, based upon what some people have been saying here.

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[Xav]

I don't have any political beliefs.

Anti-gay anything all ties into religion. Just because people don't go to church nor read the bible may mean they're not religious, but they still have religion. They were raised a certain way, and that raising was done with religious beliefs as a basis. People may be clear-minded enough to not judge others based on creed or do not use theirs in a harsh manner, but can still view homosexuals as evil, wrong, or just get uncomfortable because of how they grew up. Their parents were taught by their parents who were taught that gay=bad so it's just something that continues whether it's passive or blatant. Anyone who is against gay marriage because of any political, national, federal, or legal ramifications is an idiot and a liar. Homosexuality does not directly affect any of those. Gay is considered "icky" by the religious, no two ways about it.

You're a bigot against bigotry. Work out of that quandary.You don't have any political beliefs? Gay marriage is a political issue. I can see both sides of the issue and don't just call everyone who disagrees with me an idiot.
In the end for me, it all comes down to one thing. One side expressing their "freedom of speech", which is fine but that freedom of speech is essentially limiting the rights of another group of people. So in the end, someone isn't going to get what they want. Who should that be? A group who are upset because something didn't go their way even though in the end, has *NO* direct effect on them, or a group who aren't allowed to lawfully (not religiously) marry who they love among other rights. Basically, gay people are being withheld certain allowances that others do have. A man or woman's partner is dying in the hospital? They can be disallowed from seeing them because they weren't allowed to marry or be given any sort of rights as a couple. Why? Because a group of people somewhere didn't want that to happen. How has their lives changed because of this? It hasn't other than to give them a smug look.

I don't think people should be allowed to dictate how I live because of their religious beliefs. Think what you want. Say it, even. But it just doesn't make sense to me that they should be allowed to use their own religious beliefs to dictate every other person's way of life when it has no effect on their own.Ok first off marriage isn't a right it's a privilege. Second no one is saying gays can't visit their partners in the hospital. You have to remember a lot of gay marriage opponents also support civil unions which offer most if not all the same rights as marriage.

[Katie]

A marriage is a civil union....so, really all the anger is over a word. Marriage. Maybe we should change what we call the hetero version. Let them all be civil unions.

[Xav]

That's the way I feel keep the government out of marriage. Legally have civil unions but have the church's decide if they want to "marry" those people. That way no one can claim they don't have equal rights.

[KROW]

You don't have any political beliefs? Gay marriage is a political issue. I'm a bigot? Why? Because I can see both sides of the issue and don't just call everyone who disagrees with me an idiot?

Ok first off marriage isn't a right it's a privilege. Second no one is saying gays can't visit their partners in the hospital. You have to remember a lot of gay marriage opponents also support civil unions which offer most if not all the same rights as marriage.

Gay marriage isn't a political issue, it's a human issue. It only becomes political when some asshat asks an elected official or an individual running for public office their opinion on it. Gay marriage doesn't belong in politics. oh, and a bigot is someone who is intolerant of something, ergo you are a bigot of bigotry. Get it?

Also, a right -- in this case -- is a legal guarantee. A privilege is a benefit given with exemptions. You're right that marriage is a privilege, but it should be the right of any adult to marry regardless of sexual orientation. Again, I'll ask what purpose does opposing gay marriage have? Who gets hurt by it? Nothing and no one. If religion isn't a factor, then what is, the fabric of our society? Come on -- what homosexual would do anything to harm fabric?


Legally have some sort union but have the church's decide if they want to "marry" those people. That way no one can claim they don't have equal rights.

That would have to be a very tolerant church, otherwise there would be no gay marriage. "Those people"? Very nice choice of words.

[themaxonline]

Ok first off marriage isn't a right it's a privilege. Second no one is saying gays can't visit their partners in the hospital. You have to remember a lot of gay marriage opponents also support civil unions which offer most if not all the same rights as marriage.

If a man is dying in the hospital and his estranged family decides they don't want his long-time partner to come, they can keep him away because they have the legal right to. Why? Because the two men were never able to get married, or, civil-unioned.

Marriage is no longer a word limited to religion. It is used for legal purposes now. I agree that churches shouldn't be forced to perform marriages for same-sex couples but as far as the legal aspect goes, there's no reason that gay marriages shouldn't be allowed.

[Xav]

That would have to be a very tolerant church, otherwise there would be no gay marriage. "Those people"? Very nice choice of words.Yes there are church's that support gay marriage, it can't be impossible to find someone willing to perform a same sex ceremony. But I ask why should the government be involved in marriage anyway, they are the ones legally denying same sex couples marriage not religious organizations and you know damn well what I meant by those people don't be an asshole.

[Jester]

A marriage is a civil union....so, really all the anger is over a word. Marriage. Maybe we should change what we call the hetero version. Let them all be civil unions.
This is about how I feel. It's all semantics.

To a lot of people, myself included, marriage is more than a legally binding contract between 2 consenting adults, but a sacred covenant between those same two people and some higher power. I'd almost say that a lot of hetero couples who don't see marriage as a sacred and unbreakable bond should use civil unions/domestic partnerships.

I feel, as someone who tends to lean politically conservative, homosexuals should have all the legal rights a heterosexual has. The legal arena is no place to put my religious beliefs, because the laws shouldn't favor one religion over another. The problem is that one little word, "Marriage," and the weight it has and what it means to different people.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

I have to laugh at all the claims of "religious bigotry." I can tell you that plenty of atheists are bigoted too. And of the people I've known who genuinely hate homosexuals, not a one of them was a Bible-thumping conservative. Quite the opposite. These people have suffered sexual harrassment or abuse by homosexuals. Just as the people of India tend to have anti-British feelings because Britain had colonized them and not been too kindly to them in the process.

[pannoni1]

The best thing out of gay marriage is it slows the birth rate to help keep the overall population under control and make living more sustainable. That said, Chick-fil-A still has its southern conservatism values just like so many others in that part of the country do. In truth, there is a difference between a "true marriage" and just a "special partner", like all homosexuals and non-married straights are, since it basically comes down to genetics.

As for their food, I do find their salads decent, but I don't like most of their other food and prefer KFC's chicken over Chick-Fil-A for the reasons mentioned above.

[Xav]

What? How exactly does gay marriage slow the birth rate?

[BubblyShell22]

Because they can't physically have kids and aren't able to legally adopt in some countries. It's totally unfair honestly.

And Type 97, it's religious bigotry because the reason that gay marriage is illegal is based on the religious belief that it's wrong and immoral based on a fictional book of fairy tales. Remember, humans wrote the Bible, thus humans created God. So, in actuality God has no problem with homosexuality. Humans do. And they're using religion to tell a certain group of people that how they feel is wrong and that they don't have the right to feel that way or be happy.

[Xav]

Gay people can't physically have kids regardless if they are married or not.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Because they can't physically have kids and aren't able to legally adopt in some countries. It's totally unfair honestly.

And Type 97, it's religious bigotry because the reason that gay marriage is illegal is based on the religious belief that it's wrong and immoral based on a fictional book of fairy tales. Remember, humans wrote the Bible, thus humans created God. So, in actuality God has no problem with homosexuality. Humans do. And they're using religion to tell a certain group of people that how they feel is wrong and that they don't have the right to feel that way or be happy.

You need to review a few more of my prior posts. I did say that the people I knew who genuinely hated homosexuals were not religious, or at least not Bible-thumpers. Gay marriage is a new invention; there is no evidence it existed anywhere on Earth until maybe twenty years or so ago. And do you think that Communist countries, which suppressed traditional religion as best they could, were gay-friendly? I read Arthur Koestler's Darkness At Noon in college on my own time; one observation was that the Soviet Union "was more sexually repressive than England". I also mentioned in the past that in Canada, where gay marriage is nationally legal and who are supposedly more liberal than us Americans, one person came out about being gay. The result: his family kicked him out, he lost his job, his friends all deserted him, and he would up living in the streets, being attacked by gangs of thugs. This was in Ontario, BTW, not the more religious province of Alberta.

[Spitfire]

I really never got why people care so much about what other people do. Like it seriously effects them. I mean obviously if it's something that hurts them that makes sense but letting gay people get married is harmless. It hurts no one and it's not like you're gonna see more gay people popping up holding hands everywhere. These people act like letting gay people get married will cause some chain reaction that will make the gay population quadruple over night. You see same sex couples holding hands and kissing in public now anyways. Not letting them get married isn't going to change that.

Short answer, mind your own business and get over it. There's gays out there in the world. There's always been gays and there will continue to be gays. The sooner you realize that and accept it the easier life will get. You can't control everything and attempting to is only going to cause those people to push back. Gays wouldn't be shoving it anyone's face or protesting if people would just let them get married. It's actually being spread around more because of it.

[BubblyShell22]

Well, said, Spit.

And Type 97, I've never heard of that honestly. Most of the people I know who hate gay marriage are conservatives and extremely religious. Heck, I was taught to hate gay people, but I grew up and realized that what I was taught to believe was a big fat lie. I learned to open up my mind and let people be who they want to be. Who cares what people do? Doesn't it say in the Bible to judge not lest ye be judged? Too bad people don't see it that way.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Well, said, Spit.

And Type 97, I've never heard of that honestly. Most of the people I know who hate gay marriage are conservatives and extremely religious. Heck, I was taught to hate gay people, but I grew up and realized that what I was taught to believe was a big fat lie. I learned to open up my mind and let people be who they want to be. Who cares what people do? Doesn't it say in the Bible to judge not lest ye be judged? Too bad people don't see it that way.

You learn something new every day.

And I grew up and made my own observations. I found that the most hateful, bigoted, and narrow-minded people are not the conservatives but the liberals and leftists, and the latter respond to views that disagree with their own with harrassment and insults, since they often cannot respond with valid counterarguments. Atheists I have found love to think they are wiser than the religious, but often they are not and don't like to be told so. And as for the "open-minded", I have found out that they aren't. They're just closed-minded in a different way.

As for what the Bible said, I always took that verse to be ironic. Is there really anybody who doesn't judge other people? Of course there aren't. So I interpret that verse as saying that God judges people, and has the moral right to do so, because they judge others all the time.

[Xav]

I agree liberals support free speech as long as it's speech they agree with.

[wussy fuz bunny]

:tgrin:I luv going 2 chick-fil-a so much I take my wife with me, when i heard about chick-fil-a day i threw my wife in the car and went straight over there.

[ZariusTwo]

Atheists I have found love to think they are wiser than the religious, but often they are not and don't like to be told so. And as for the "open-minded", I have found out that they aren't. They're just closed-minded in a different way.

Pot. Kettle. Black as Night.

Knock off the stabs at Athiests and Liberals you arrogant spastic, there not the issue here.

[Candy Kappa]

Their sandwiches looks so bland

[The Stryker]

Pot. Kettle. Black as Night.

Knock off the stabs at Athiests and Liberals you arrogant spastic, there not the issue here.

Then maybe the athiests here should cool it with the religion bashing also? I dunno. Just saying.

[Candy Kappa]

Then maybe the athiests here should cool it with the religion bashing also? I dunno. Just saying.

I'm behaving, thank you very much.

[ZariusTwo]

I have religious folk in my family, there aware I'm an Athiest, they don't care, and I don't care they think we go to a fairytale bulls*it Disney world when they conk it, I don't judge them for it, as it's brought them up well and they've treated me well because of it. Of course, there the types that don't look down at people like me as "unwise and closed-minded" for having a different, more reallistic opinion of the world, there not arrogant, hypocritical judgemental bums who paint everyone with the same brush. :)

If I overreacted, I apologise, but tdlr: There asshats on both sides and one isnt better than the other. Life is sugar and s*it

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

I have religious folk in my family, there aware I'm an Athiest, they don't care, and I don't care they think we go to a fairytale bulls*it Disney world when they conk it, I don't judge them for it, as it's brought them up well and they've treated me well because of it. Of course, there the types that don't look down at people like me as "unwise and closed-minded" for having a different, more reallistic opinion of the world, there not arrogant, hypocritical judgemental bums who paint everyone with the same brush. :)

If I overreacted, I apologise, but tdlr: There asshats on both sides and one isnt better than the other. Life is sugar and s*it

You quote yourself as "having a different, more realistic opinion of the world". If that isn't arrogance, I don't know what is.

If you don't like my telling you the truth about atheists and liberals, cry me a river. I don't apologize for what I see for myself. Your calling me arrogrant is like a 500-pound ball of lard telling me I'm too fat.

[Jester]

Indeed...I can't say that as a Christian conservative I agree 100% with Type 27, but your posts is screaming with contradictions, Zarius.

"I don't care they think we go to a fairytale bulls*it Disney world when they conk it..." sounds very open minded and not the least bit hateful.

[Leo656]

I like how Spitfire summed it up.

I still don't think it's a religious thing at all, I think people just use that argument as a crutch because they don't want to say what they mean: "I just think guys having buttsex is icky". They know that what other people do in private, especially sexually, is really nobody's business, and that they have NO right to be offended by it as long as nobody's getting hurt, but the very thought of it keeps them up at night, so they say "Umm... I don't like it because GOD doesn't like it! Otherwise, I'd be TOTALLY cool with gay people! Seriously! But it's not my call!" Most of these people don't know a lick of Biblical scripture and never bring it up in any other context, but the thought of gay people turns them all religious an' sh*t. Shyeah, right. I automatically have zero respect for anyone who refuses to say exactly what they mean and nothing else. Don't hide behind a book of fables as the backbone for your alleged moral code, which you casually disregard at every turn most of the time anyway.


I'unno guys I get a kick out of Zarius. He's rather intelligent, if caustic at times. I rarely have issues with his views, specifically, but I agree it seems some comments are designed solely for a reaction. But I can appreciate that as well.

As far as Type 97, and anyone else who implied I somehow failed to make a logical argument that is totally bullet-proof, I can only assert that, historically speaking, those who disagree with me tend to be wrong about pretty much everything in general. So there.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

I like how Spitfire summed it up.

I still don't think it's a religious thing at all, I think people just use that argument as a crutch because they don't want to say what they mean: "I just think guys having buttsex is icky". They know that what other people do in private, especially sexually, is really nobody's business, and that they have NO right to be offended by it as long as nobody's getting hurt, but the very thought of it keeps them up at night, so they say "Umm... I don't like it because GOD doesn't like it! Otherwise, I'd be TOTALLY cool with gay people! Seriously! But it's not my call!" Most of these people don't know a lick of Biblical scripture and never bring it up in any other context, but the thought of gay people turns them all religious an' sh*t. Shyeah, right. I automatically have zero respect for anyone who refuses to say exactly what they mean and nothing else. Don't hide behind a book of fables as the backbone for your alleged moral code, which you casually disregard at every turn most of the time anyway.


I'unno guys I get a kick out of Zarius. He's rather intelligent, if caustic at times. I rarely have issues with his views, specifically, but I agree it seems some comments are designed solely for a reaction. But I can appreciate that as well.

As far as Type 97, and anyone else who implied I somehow failed to make a logical argument that is totally bullet-proof, I can only assert that, historically speaking, those who disagree with me tend to be wrong about pretty much everything in general. So there.

Truthfully speaking, Leo, you're full of it. You may not like the things I have to say but I stand behind every word of it. Yes, the so-called "open-minded" people are not who they pretend to be, and the supposedly liberal-minded are far more bigoted and hateful than the worst conservatives I've seen, and I've seen bad ones. Do people think gay sex is yucky? What do you expect? Most people think this (http://snakelyone.com/URINE.htm) is pretty yucky too.

And Zarius, you are a very amusing example of a pompous ass. I love it when you scream as if you fell face first into a cactus garden.

[Katie]

Leo asks why it is a religious thing.....I ask why it's a political thing. Liberal or conservative....there's people on both side of the fence who would prefer that gay people didn't exist. I really hate when an issue which is basically something individual to a person, I.e. comfort level with gay people, becomes this whole political thing.

In fact I really hate the current political climate which is SUPER polarized. And it is bullsh!t to say it is the fault of one side or the other because both sides do it. I can't wait to vote in November and get this political season over.

Finally, I'll answer why it's religious. Long time ago people were grossed out by men having buttsex.....so they made sure that stuff stayed in the bible when they were deciding what books stayed in and what was left out (like the apocrypha). Now they can point to those passages to support their own personal views. It's a personal view....but with something to back it up.

Gay rights is the civil rights of this time.

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, I agree about the politics of it, but these politicians are also using their religious beliefs to back up their hatred of gay marriage. I just think that politicians should keep their beliefs out of their campaigns and recognize that not everyone believes the same way they do. They should also recognize that if they want to help the people, they should give certain people the right to do as they please whether they believe in it or not. This is supposed to be a free country, but it hasn't been for years, and I highly doubt any of us will be truly free.

And, Zarius, I may disagree with you on some things, but I agree with your views here. Same with you, Leo.

[Leo656]

I'm full of it a'ight. Full of wisdom, knowledge, sarcasm, paranoid schizophrenia, insight, social commentary, trendy cliche's, and dead baby jokes. And above all, humility. I've got bags of humility.

Feel free not to agree, this is America. I agree with Katie, it's just the latest Civil Rights issue. Women's suffrage, blacks rights to own land, the Irish's right to work, black rights in general, women's rights to work...

And now, people's right to be gay, marry amongst their own gender, adopt children together, visit each other in the hospital, inherit property, and eventually get divorced. Anyone has the right to disagree with it, but history says you're spitting in the wind. So there.

[Xav]

Right to be gay? Dude there's no law against being gay, at least no in the US.

[Leo656]

No, but some people still wish they weren't, and subject them to all kinds of harrassment and occasionally physically assault them. That fact is undeniable, as is the fact that it simply can't be that way.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

I'm full of it a'ight. Full of wisdom, knowledge, sarcasm, paranoid schizophrenia, insight, social commentary, trendy cliche's, and dead baby jokes. And above all, humility. I've got bags of humility.

Feel free not to agree, this is America. I agree with Katie, it's just the latest Civil Rights issue. Women's suffrage, blacks rights to own land, the Irish's right to work, black rights in general, women's rights to work...

And now, people's right to be gay, marry amongst their own gender, adopt children together, visit each other in the hospital, inherit property, and eventually get divorced. Anyone has the right to disagree with it, but history says you're spitting in the wind. So there.

Sure, I agree that gay people have the right to vote, to own property...oh, they have that already, and always have. "Civll rights" this is not. Gay people already have the exact same rights every other US citizen does.

Are there people attacked because they are gay? Sure. They are attacked because they are Asian, white, Christain, American. Everybody is subject to hate, violence, and bigotry for who they are. Get over it.

And you failed to disprove what I've said. Liberals love to say they're not bigoted, but I have found that they are just as bad as the rednecks they like to excoriate. They're just bigoted in a different way.

[BubblyShell22]

Right to be gay? Dude there's no law against being gay, at least no in the US.

No, but there are certain states that ban gay marriage, meaning that gays can't get married.

And, Type 97, gay people may have some of the rights other people have, but in some states, they aren't allowed to get married because of who they are and because some mindless idiots are against it. If that isn't bigotry, I don't know what is.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

No, but there are certain states that ban gay marriage, meaning that gays can't get married.

And, Type 97, gay people may have some of the rights other people have, but in some states, they aren't allowed to get married because of who they are and because some mindless idiots are against it. If that isn't bigotry, I don't know what is.

Sure gays can marry, but not others of the same gender.

And gay marriage hasn't been "banned", it never existed in the first place in most places. Call it bigotry if you like-in which case you must also call it bigotry when you cannot have eight hundred wives. :)

[Jelly Bean]

like Leo656 pointed out, why would you want a whole bunch of wives all under the same rough menestrating at the same time? Call it bigotry if you want but bless your government they limited the number to one at a time. And even thats going out of style.

At any rate this has nothing to do with gay rights, I just commented on it because it was poor example of "bigotry" (even though Type 97 Chi-ha probably ment it tongue-in-cheek). But does say that whos screwing who is always something people get their collective panties all in a bunch over. Why does everyone care so much?

regular man-woman marriage is a joke in this country now-adays that is increasingly going out of style, why do you care that people of the same sex are doing it?

Marriage should just be banned all together, for that matter relationships should be too, because fewer and fewer people want to be in monogamous relationship anymore and deal with another persons ******** for a lengthy amount of time. More and more people in this country just want to fu** with no emotional or legal responciablities to anyone. So maybe people should just be able to have sex than move on. Maybe there'd be less whining and bitching from everyone if people didin't have to do more than just screw someone and move along.

Hell, lets get rid of the family unit too where there is a man and a woman that raise children with a big back yard and a picket fense. Maybe it could be somewhat like "The Republic" and no one is personally responciable for their own off-spring, and kids are raised till their of age by "care takers" or something. That would take care of alot of ****. I don't know, it just the constant bitching and finger pointing of liberals and conservatives is annoying.

[BubblyShell22]

Sure gays can marry, but not others of the same gender.

And gay marriage hasn't been "banned", it never existed in the first place in most places. Call it bigotry if you like-in which case you must also call it bigotry when you cannot have eight hundred wives. :)

What the f*ck are you talking about? People of the same gender who love each other are considered gay or lesbian, you moron. And, no they aren't allowed to get married.

And, yes, gay marriage is illegal in some states.

As for polygamy, I think it's ridiculous, but I'm not going to tell someone they can't do it. Live and let live. If people are into that sh*t, then they should just do it. It doesn't hurt me in anyway.

I just don't understand you, Type 97. You aren't making any sense at all.

[Xav]

How is he not making any sense? Everything he said so far is true.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

like Leo656 pointed out, why would you want a whole bunch of wives all under the same rough menestrating at the same time? Call it bigotry if you want but bless your government they limited the number to one at a time. And even thats going out of style.

At any rate this has nothing to do with gay rights, I just commented on it because it was poor example of "bigotry" (even though Type 97 Chi-ha probably ment it tongue-in-cheek). But does say that whos screwing who is always something people get their collective panties all in a bunch over. Why does everyone care so much?

regular man-woman marriage is a joke in this country now-adays that is increasingly going out of style, why do you care that people of the same sex are doing it?

Marriage should just be banned all together, for that matter relationships should be too, because fewer and fewer people want to be in monogamous relationship anymore and deal with another persons ******** for a lengthy amount of time. More and more people in this country just want to fu** with no emotional or legal responciablities to anyone. So maybe people should just be able to have sex than move on. Maybe there'd be less whining and bitching from everyone if people didin't have to do more than just screw someone and move along.

Hell, lets get rid of the family unit too where there is a man and a woman that raise children with a big back yard and a picket fense. Maybe it could be somewhat like "The Republic" and no one is personally responciable for their own off-spring, and kids are raised till their of age by "care takers" or something. That would take care of alot of ****. I don't know, it just the constant bitching and finger pointing of liberals and conservatives is annoying.

There actually was a definite historical case when marriage was abolished altogether-in the nation of Paraguay, at least for a time, because it had been so badly devastated by a war in the nineteenth century.

And a few more fun facts about marriage:

In Iran, and probably a number of other countries, the minimum age to marry is 13. Not a typo-13. And that is without parental consent. With parental consent, children as young as 9 can marry. Think I'm joking? Probably the reason for it is to allow very poor people to place their kids in more wealthy environments, or if something happens to the parents the kids won't be unattached orphans.

Musician Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin when he was 26; not very unusual in the South decades ago, but it damaged his career for a time. They divorced eventually, but the marriage (by the ex-wife's account in a magazine article I read) was fairly normal and even produced a son who sadly died in a swimming pool accident at age 3.

Consulting the 1989 Guiness Book of World Records, the youngest marriage ever was in Bangladesh where an 11-month-old boy was married to a 3-month-old girl to end a feud between two families.

Sharia (Islamic) law allows a man to have up to four wives if he can take care of them equally. Undoubtedly most people who do have multiple wives are in fact quite wealthy such as Saudi princes.

[Candy Kappa]

Sharia (Islamic) law allows a man to have up to four wives if he can take care of them equally. Undoubtedly most people who do have multiple wives are in fact quite wealthy such as Saudi princes.

As long as he gives each wife equal attention, it is also usually advised not to have more then one wife. Unless you have some position (like a Saudi Prince)

But Polyandry is not allowed.

I personally are all for marriage, why not. if a couple, or more people love each other, let them marry. It's often a useful contract, in theory I suppose.

I don't think gender or number should be a great deal. And Polygamy should be legal same as same-sex marriage. but then both a man and a woman should be able to have several partners, and their partners should be allowed to have their partners.

But, it should also be the choice each individual holy house and their holy man or woman to decide who they want to allow to be married in their place of worship. If their god or gods find rump humping icky their servants shouldn't be forced to go against that in their holy place.

There's plenty of churches and temples everywhere and different interpretations of their respective holy scripture, that I'm sure some happy couple can find their place to have the celebration of their joining.

[BubblyShell22]

Or you could always just get married at a courthouse. If I do decide I'm ready for marriage, that's what I'm going to do. Forget getting married in a church. I don't believe in any god anyway, so why would I want to do that?

[zkarlette]

Man...I guess nobody has even bothered to ask the chickens for their opinion.:ohwell:

[Leonardo Mystic]

Man...I guess nobody has even bothered to ask the chickens for their opinion.:ohwell:

Best response out of the whole thread.

[Hero]

Agreed ....

[Leo656]

The chickens are neutral and just want Chick-Fil-A to go out of business because they don't want to be turned into sandwhiches. Do we need them to tell us that? I figured that out right away and I don't even speak chicken...

[Hero]

Perhaps Gonzo could translate.

[Leo656]

HAH! :lol:

[Xav]

The chickens are neutral and just want Chick-Fil-A to go out of business because they don't want to be turned into sandwhiches. Do we need them to tell us that? I figured that out right away and I don't even speak chicken... Maybe they like being turned into sandwiches? You don't know.

[themaxonline]

Gay people already have the exact same rights every other US citizen does.

Except in some states, you can be fired for being gay, or not allowed to rent an apartment for being gay.

But essentially, you're saying that you'd be okay with a woman marrying another woman?

I've yet to read a response from someone to explain how gay people getting married affects them and subsequently why people shouldn't be allowed to marry (legally, not religiously) people of the same gender.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Except in some states, you can be fired for being gay, or not allowed to rent an apartment for being gay.

But essentially, you're saying that you'd be okay with a woman marrying another woman?

I've yet to read a response from someone to explain how gay people getting married affects them and subsequently why people shouldn't be allowed to marry (legally, not religiously) people of the same gender.

I didn't think such laws still existed, or that they'd be enforced without causing trouble.

A woman marrying another woman? I thought that was defined in the "gay marriage" phrase. And from experience it is difficult to imagine two women living together, unless one definitely runs the household.

The topic isn't actually about the morality of gay marriage; the topic title is that one company is officially against it. Is it wrong for any company to take a political stance that doesn't directly affect its commerical interests? (Obviously Ben and Jerry's wouldn't take a stance against consumption of milk. :tlol:)

[Leo656]

Maybe they like being turned into sandwiches? You don't know.

I admit, it's an intriguing possibility you present. Perhaps the "Endgame" of being a chicken is to end up wrapped in foil with "Wendy's" stamped on it, and that's the way it was designed by whatever creator created chickens in the first place. Maybe "Buck-buck-B-GAWK!" is chicken-speak for "please, tear me to pieces, dip them in egg batter, coat them in a fine breading, fry them and serve on a bun smeared with mayo, and please remember to add tomato for God's sake."

But I'd have to be some sort of chicken-whisperer to figure that out.

[ComicBookBoy]

The owner of Chik-Fil-A is a Christian. The Bible says that marriage is to be between a man and a woman, that's why he is against gay marriage. If God says it's wrong then it's wrong.

[The Stryker]

The owner of Chik-Fil-A is a Christian. The Bible says that marriage is to be between a man and a woman, that's why he is against gay marriage. If God says it's wrong then it's wrong.

Oh jesus christ. Don't start that sh*t.

What's next? They choose to be gay for attention?

[ComicBookBoy]

_The Stryker_
Oh jesus christ. Don't start that ----.

What's next? They choose to be gay for attention?

Maybe some people are born gay; maybe they choose to be gay. Whichever it is, they can still live for God instead of their own selfish desires.

[The Stryker]

Maybe some people are born gay; maybe they choose to be gay. Whichever it is, they can still live for God instead of their own selfish desires.

They're all born that way and some gay people try to be christians and live normal lives but....they can't because they don't have all the rights that normal people do!

Imagine that.

[ComicBookBoy]

They're all born that way and some gay people try to be christians and live normal lives but....they can't because they don't have all the rights that normal people do!

Imagine that.

Being a Christian is about devoting your life to God, not yourself. If someone who is gay wants be a Christian then he must not date or marry anyone who is gay. It's all about who you love more, yourself or God.

[The Stryker]

Being a Christian is about devoting your life to God, not yourself. If someone who is gay wants be a Christian then he must not date or marry anyone who is gay. It's all about who you love more, yourself or God.

So being a good christian means betraying who you are as a person. Sounds healthy and not at all crazy.

Thanks for giving Christians all over such a good name.

[ComicBookBoy]

So being a good christian means betraying who you are as a person. Sounds healthy and not at all crazy.

Thanks for giving Christians all over such a good name.

We were created to serve and to love God. We are actually going against what we are, when we do not do as God wants us to do.

[The Stryker]

So you're one of those that believes we're supposed to be lifeless drones that exist only to pray. Ridiculous.

I thank god everyday I wasn't brought up in a whackjob church. Thats a bullet dodged.

[ComicBookBoy]

So you're one of those that believes we're supposed to be lifeless drones that exist only to pray. Ridiculous.

I thank god everyday I wasn't brought up in a whackjob church. Thats a bullet dodged.

Christians are not lifeless drones. Christians do a lot more than pray, though that is a big part of a Christian's life.