Mona Lisa needs to be on this show

[JakeSully]

Every fanboy's favorite reptilian mutant babe needs a comeback on this show and they need to find a great voice actress like Kate Sourcie to be her voice.

[TurtleTitan97]

Eh, I don't know. While it would be interesting to see what Nick does with her if she appeared, I not holding out on her reappearing on the show, and I'm not really a big fan of Mona.

[tmnt transformer]

Every fanboy's favorite reptilian mutant babe needs a comeback on this show and they need to find a great voice actress like Kate Sourcie to be her voice.

Dude, I agree with you.

[Moonlight1102]

I hope Starry Night makes an appearance too.

[Genesis]

No. No. No. A thousand times no.

[Jester]

No. No. No. A thousand times no.
Yeah, this. I've never understood the love for Mona Lisa, a one off character who only seems to get love from people who like to 'ship the Turtles.

[TurtleTitan97]

Yeah, this. I've never understood the love for Mona Lisa, a one off character who only seems to get love from people who like to 'ship the Turtles.

Same here. I never really understood why she was popular to some people either.

[Genesis]

We don't even know what the heck she's supposed to be! Most people suggest that she's a salamander... thing.

In all seriousness, I don't get this obsession with giving the Turtles girlfriends.

[Raph's Girl]

Every fanboy's favorite reptilian mutant babe needs a comeback on this show and they need to find a great voice actress like Kate Sourcie to be her voice.

Kath Soucie as Mona? Nah. They could just get Pat Musick back to voice her. After all Pat's daughter is now April. :P

[Jester]

Kath Soucie as Mona? Nah. They could just get Pat Musick back to voice her. After all Pat's daughter is now April. :P Sides. I'd rather have Kath reprise her role as Kala.
Tress MacNeille was Kala, not Kath Soucie.
(Nice edit... :P)

[Moonlight1102]

I'd personally rather see Angel make an appearance in the series.

[METALHEAD]

well i hoe she does come out. better her than venus...bleh.

[TurtleTitan97]

In all seriousness, I don't get this obsession with giving the Turtles girlfriends.

^ This. Why do some people want the turtles to have girlfriends?:tconfuse:

[cryan]

Uhhh,the character has not been seen for at least 2 decades.I agree,not sure why the hate for Mona Lisa.I always like the character.Though,I thought about Kath Soucie doing the voice for her but I would go with Grey De Leslie or Jennifer Hale maybe Nicole Sullivan.She needs some snarkiness to her.

[gobo]

Is April's mom around in this series? Maybe she gets mutamatic-ed with a lizard. :trazz:

[Moonlight1102]

^Or a cat.

[Jester]

Is April's mom around in this series? Maybe she gets mutamatic-ed with a lizard. :trazz:
It'd be ironic...don't ya think?

[cartoonistaaron]

I for one would much rather see Irma show up. To me, it's just not Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles without April's bespectacled, sweatered, orthopedic-shoe-wearing, man hungry friend.

Or Zack the 5th turtle, remember him?

[Moonlight1102]

Or Zack the 5th turtle, remember him?

Yes. I don't think he'd fit in this series though.

[gobo]

I'd prefer Venus to Zach. No contest... :sick:

[Xav]

Or Zack the 5th turtle, remember him?No I don't. Is he anything like Zach the 5th turtle?

[Raph's Girl]

Is April's mom around in this series? Maybe she gets mutamatic-ed with a lizard. :trazz:

Doesn't seem that April has a mom. The ep description just says the turtles rescue April and her dad (who's a scientist).

[oldmanwinters]

I for one would much rather see Irma show up. To me, it's just not Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles without April's bespectacled, sweatered, orthopedic-shoe-wearing, man hungry friend.

Or Zack the 5th turtle, remember him?

You and I should work together on some TMNT fan comics sometime.

:twink:

[CyberCubed]

Mona Lisa would probably be one of the last characters they would bring back, outside of this forum, she's very obscure.

We're far more likely to see Mondo Gecko or the Punk Frogs or Ray Fillet over her.

[FoxZerro]

I'd prefer Venus to Zach. No contest... :sick:

Oh no you didn't... I kind of agree though there are levels of annoying and Venus' is more bearable to me

[MikeandRaph87]

You and I should work together on some TMNT fan comics sometime.

:twink:

Can it be his brave ultimate sacrifice saving the city from a rock solider invasion?:tgrin:....wishiful thinking.


What is holding the Punk Frogs from appearing? That group was always my favorite ally especially Genhis!

[gobo]

Weren't they all Genghis? :shifty:

[Koi]

Ew, I hope never.

[cryan]

As I said,I want to see Mona Lisa updated.Not the same character that was shown in 1990.I wouldn't mind them changing her background.Still would like her previous form to be human and yes,I want her to be an ally not a bew member of the team.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

NICK! THIS is your awnser on how to bring in a female turtle-esque character to fight beside the boys WITHOUT angering a large portion of the fanbase or making in feel cheap! As I stated on another thread, Mona Lisa has a HUGE fanbase online, and would be a PERFECT addition to the Nick TMNT show! :D

[Drose18]

NICK! THIS is your awnser on how to bring in a female turtle-esque character to fight beside the boys WITHOUT angering a large portion of the fanbase or making in feel cheap! As I stated on another thread, Mona Lisa has a HUGE fanbase online, and would be a PERFECT addition to the Nick TMNT show! :D

Think of what all the traumatized little kids will see when they look up mona lisa!!! How about a new character with a new origin!

[Lethal Lullaby]

No thanks. Although I thought Mona Lisa was a decent character in the OT, I just don't want to see her in this show. And the TMNT having girlfriends is just :tdead:, but that's just my opinion.

Edit: Idk why i put OC first.

[TurtleTitan97]

^ This. Giving any of the turtles girlfriends is a dumb idea. Mona Lisa should stay in the OT, in my opinion.

[Cryomancer]

I'd be alright with her coming back if they actually do anything of interest with her.

Like she could a thief for hire or something along those lines, get in both the TMNT and Foot's way depending on what she's doing in a particular episode, etc. Bring back the Lupin influence and have her help out the TMNT with stuff only to rip them off at the end, haha.

[Jester]

I'd be alright with her coming back if they actually do anything of interest with her.

Like she could a thief for hire or something along those lines, get in both the TMNT and Foot's way depending on what she's doing in a particular episode, etc. Bring back the Lupin influence and have her help out the TMNT with stuff only to rip them off at the end, haha.
So Torbin Lisa? :P

[Leo656]

I think some fans overreact to the "relationships" concept. I don't think it needs to be overdone in any of the series, but I think it has its place if done well, same as anything else. Love and relationships are a part of life, seems silly not to "go there" with TMNT just because "They're the last/only ones of their species". Clark Kent/Lois Lane, Starfire/Dick Grayson, etc., although in those cases they were dealing with aliens and not mutants per se', but I think that's just splitting hairs. Beyond that, the TMNT are "teenagers", and teenagers are easily attracted to the opposite sex in general. I just think it hasn't always been done well and it sours folks on the entire concept. I thought the Raphael/Ninjara pairing was done well.

I always wanted to see more Mona Lisa, as her character seemed to have more repeat potential than some other recurring characters, but it didn't happen. Not sure if I'd want to see a new version in the new show "just because", but if they were going to go more into her character, add some depth, and have it have a point, I say it's fine.

[pannoni1]

I feel that many want her back since some feel that there are not enough notable female characters in the franchise; basically April and Karai with a small handful of secondary characters who were mostly one shots. I'd simply change her origin to being mutated by ooze which was part of the same canister as the one that the Turtles got mutated from, and make her appear about once a season based upon demand. If she is well-liked unlike Venus, why not give her another shot.

[Candy Kappa]

I'd rather want a new Venus then Mona Lisa.

[TMNT_Guy]

As much as I'd like Mona to return, her original purpose, which was to have a female character that could fight along with the Turtles, has been taken over by Teen April. Also, why is almost everyone screaming "EW NO SHIPPING TURTLES!"? Can't a female character exist in a TV show without her becoming a love interest?

Still, I wouldn't mind seeing what the writers could do with her. She was the only "Mutant Ally" that I ever cared about.

[gobo]

Can't a female character exist in a TV show without her becoming a love interest?
Pessimists say "no". Lack of faith that some beurobrat won't throw their weight around and insist on having such a plot realized eventually.
She was the only "Mutant Ally" that I ever cared about.
Agreed.

[Slade]

I'd rather not see her, but honestly it doesn't matter if they did or not.

[Cryomancer]

So Torbin Lisa? :P

Basically, yes.

[Agent 86]

I'd be happy to see any kick-azz female mutant added to the new series.

Whether it's Mona Lisa, Venus or Ninjara (although the latter wasn't a real mutant from memory).

[Utromshredderhater]

I would love to see her on this.

Because after Raph is done making fun of Donnie for Swooning on April The guys can make fun of Raph for Swooning on Mona

[cryan]

Actually,I like the idea of Mona and Raph having a similar stand offish relationship like Han and Leia had in the Empire Strikes Back.

[Victorsaurus]

I would like that, even if it was a small flashback/cameo.

[Cipher]

As with anything else for a new version of the series, if she's done well, fine. If she's not, don't bother.

That said, most people only seem to bring her up because she can be Raph's totally hot mutant girlfriend, which is not well done. That's asinine.

[Refractive Reflections]

I think the reason for Mona Lisa's appeal even after just one OT episode is that she was the first female character to not only meet but at times exceed Raphael's wit and sarcasm that no other character could match.

This playful antagonism of "Raphael Meeting His Match" seemed to open the possibilities of Raphael finally being on the receiving end of cutting remarks, jokes, puns, etc. and with Mona Lisa being female, it hinted at subtle flirtation as well.

...Because what's more hilarious than a notable sarcastic, know-it-all FINALLY getting all of that same aggravation right back on himself?

[cryan]

Actually I would like their relationship to be similar to the way Casey and April had at the beginning of the first live action TMNT film.

[plastroncafe]

Mona Lisa?!

Yes please!
And when she shows up can she talk to April about something that isn't one of the boys? Because that would be awesome. I would very much like the new Turtle show to pass The Bechdel Test (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/TheBechdelTest?from=Main.TheBechdelTest).

[FoxZerro]

I think the appeal of Mona Lisa is the fact that she is the first female mutant. Granted April got turned into a Cat and a Fish Lady beforehand, but Mona Lisa was the first female mutant we met who didn't get changed back into human form. Up till the point when she was introduced every mutant that we ever met was a male. Even in the toy line where they made up mutants to sell figures I think she was the only female mutant.

That is why I have always liked the character because it opened the door to explore having female mutants in the show. I mean there was that chicken lady and giraffe lady in the Mutant Hunter episode, but the only one to get a toy and any actual character development was Mona Lisa and for that reason alone I like her.

In regard to the new series, I don't need a retread of Mona Lisa, but I would like it if there were some female mutants in the show, because it just seems somehow off that its only males who are exposed to the ooze.

[Jephael]

I dunno if I'd want to see Mona Lisa in this show. It'd be different if this was a continuation of the original cartoon and we actually got to hear the witty banter between her and Raphael like before, but it doesn't feel right setting her up with Nickelodeon's version of Raph or any of the other Turtles for that matter.

[tmnt transformer]

I think it would be cool if she was in the show... mainly because I would like to see Donnie fall for her, and April gets jealous and starts fighting for his attention.

[Ravenxl7]

I'd like to see her included at some point. Would be nice to have some female mutants in the show, and another mutant allie for the Turtles. Also, it'd make for some interesting scenes with Raph, and maybe even for some interesting conversations (the one-way's with Spike, and maybe a talk with Splinter...:teek:).

[rav4ge]

I'd rather they just come up with new characters, honestly, assuming they're well-developed. I've also never liked the idea of the Turtles having girlfriends, I dunno. Shouldn't kicking ass and being ninjas be like, priority number one for a show like this?

[DonatelloNinja82]

I always liked Mona Lisa...I wouldnt mind seeing her return.

[Coola Yagami]

Every fanboy's favorite reptilian mutant babe needs a comeback on this show and they need to find a great voice actress like Kate Sourcie to be her voice.

kinda lost me at 'reptilian mutant babe'. I'd say no for the sake of not seeing Mona with extra scales, spikes, potruding bones, a venom tongue or any other weird whacked-out deformities the mutants on this show seem to have.

[Coola Yagami]

I think it would be cool if she was in the show... mainly because I would like to see Donnie fall for her, and April gets jealous and starts fighting for his attention.

That would be kinda interesting. Just don't go overly romantic. I've seen it before and it would be entertaining to see as a subplot here. Say...

April is annoyed by Don and ignores him. Don likes Mona, April acts annoyed/jealous. Don doesn't like Mona anymore for whatever reason. April goes back to ignoring Don.

I don't know, I kinda liked the scene where they thought they were gonna use April as pigeon-bait, Mike was like 'I thought you liked April!' and April quickly said 'yeah!'

Either way, we DO need a female mutant in there somewhere. They don't HAVE to be a love interest. But c'mon... after a while with all these Snakeweeds and Dogpounds running around, the viewers are gonna ask why none of these mutants or accidental mutants are ever female.

[miru]

I really want her back, though not as much as Ninjara. She should be voiced by Lani Minella.

[Bossa Nova]

I'd rather they just come up with new characters, honestly, assuming they're well-developed. I've also never liked the idea of the Turtles having girlfriends, I dunno. Shouldn't kicking ass and being ninjas be like, priority number one for a show like this?

Pretty much this for me. There is so much to explore in the TMNT-verse outside of romance, which is absolutely everywhere, I don't see any reason to have to inject it in this series. It honestly feels like it waters down everything else, and takes the focus away from the true threats and their overall tight family unit. Nick is honestly barely behind the line for me when it comes to this whole Don/April crap, I'd hate to see it turn into another brainless preteen romance drama with fight scenes and mutants tossed in. At this point I'd be fine if they didn't even add in any other mutants for awhile after Leatherhead, they've got plenty to keep them going and there's no point in adding a token female mutant just to have her there.

[Coola Yagami]

Eventually we need a few female mutants to kinda/sorta avoid the whole 'how come all the mutants have been male so far' scenario. Throw in a female assassin like Apolex or something. Just no love interests. A woman can be in the show WITHOUT having to be someone's love interest.

[Avatar Yuffie]

I love Mona, she's one of those ensemble darkhorse characters like Red X and The Question (they only appeared sparingly, didn't hugely change the overall plot, but fans never forgot them).

I'd like to see her again. I'll be happy with just a cameo.

[Teddy]

You know, I would LOVE to see a female mutant brought in as well. Whether it be one based on Mona, Ninjara (that'd be my vote!), or just a brand-new character all together. I think it would add another great dynamic into the show.

[Red-eyed Jaguar]

Hmm,why not, I liked her. She was a pretty cool female Mutant, who could also kick some Tails.
However, I do understand the concern of many Fans that it would perhaps throw too much Love in it. I'm not a Fan of Lovestories myself, I prefer Action (I say that as a female), but as much as I don't like it, it can bring out some new Character traits you wouldn't see otherwise. Her interaction with
Raph could be interesting if they throw in subtle(!) hints. But then again, I'll be afraid they'll overdo it like the whole Don x April thing (which already annoys me, sorry).

So, perhaps a new female Mutant would be better, perhaps as an Enemy of the Turtles?!

[Mondo_Gecko]

You know, I would LOVE to see a female mutant brought in as well. Whether it be one based on Mona, Ninjara (that'd be my vote!), or just a brand-new character all together. I think it would add another great dynamic into the show.

I agree. Mona Lisa was a great character, that should be more developed and I believe would fit well in this world. Also, just because she's female doesn't mean she has to be anyone's love interest. I would be just happy to see fully developed female mutants period, whether it's Mona Lisa, Ninjara or anyone else.

[FearlessLeader]

Does anyone here watch One Piece?

They have a multitude of both female and male leading characters that go on crazy adventures, have epic battles, that all genuinely really love one another with minimal romance (it's actually so far mostly like this new Turtles show used as a comic ploy)

I love strong female characters but I hate to see someone introduced purely for being able to simply be a "girl friend" to any of the male characters and unfortunately a lot of live action shows I watch seem to fall into this trap.

Considering One Piece and Turtles are aimed at roughly the same age range I would love to see Turtles handle things sort of the same way One Piece does. Where you know how deeply the characters care about each other, you watch them nearly die for one another in battle but this doesn't mean they need to go on dates.

Romance certainly has a place, I don't feel like it's in an action show aimed towards little boys. People can read whatever subtext they want from the show for fan fictions but I believe personally that it is not the reason a majority of people are tuning into the show.

That said I would like to see Mona Lisa come back if much like everyone else has said she is developed and handled in a proper way.

[JakeSully]

I really want her back, though not as much as Ninjara. She should be voiced by Lani Minella.

Ninjara, YES i want her to be on the show too.

[Cure]

It's such a furry fest in here.

[Kevin G]

Personally, I would like if Venus was on the show, and while this is a very slim chance of happening, I definitely would prefer her or even Mona Lisa then Carter being on the show.

I did some thinking, and I actually think it could work out. Venus could either have a Toph (Avatar: The Last Airbender) personality, or she can have the little sister personality (whose always getting into trouble but not intentionally, maybe a klutz but not like Irma, but like a little kid, the Turtles could get annoyed with her, but they love her regardless) or revamp the character and make her a bad ass.

But since this is a Mona Lisa thread, reality wise it's very unlikely she will be on the show. I agree with pannoni1, that if Ciro and co. are going to pull any characters from the TMNT library, they are most likely going to pull more recognizable characters or characters who have been a staple in the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles universe. You obviously got Baxter Stockman + Mousers, Leatherhead, The Rat King, Karai, Casey Jones, The Purple Dragons and The Fugitoid (from the comics on) and of course Krang and General Traag whose appearance has been from the 1987 show on.

However no one really knows what is going happen down the line. For all we know, there may be in Easter Egg of her or she will actually make an appearance on the show, but I feel it's very doubtful.

[JakeSully]

Venus? bah? who needs her?

For Mona i think Tara Strong can be her voice.

[Kevin G]

Venus? bah? who needs her?

For Mona i think Tara Strong can be her voice.

I rather have Venus then Carter.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I for one would much rather see Irma show up. To me, it's just not Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles without April's bespectacled, sweatered, orthopedic-shoe-wearing, man hungry friend.



Me too. I want Irma. Her dating jokes were fun.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

I'd personally love to see the lizard lady again, we need more female mutants in this series! :)