How the 1st Film was ALMOST like Dark Knight Rises

[oldmanwinters]

Seriously...

Last night, I went to the movies with my wife and daughter, and saw one of the silliest films I've seen in a while -- "The Dark Knight Rises". As I was watching it, I could not help but think back to the development period of the first live-action TMNT movie, when Kevin and I were struggling to work with the writer the studio had chosen for the project. At one point, he turned in an outline in which the bad guys -- I think they were the Shredder and the Foot -- had imprisoned all the "good people" of the city in the sewers, and the Turtles had to rescue them and release them from their subterranean prison… after which the jubilant, newly-freed citizens carried the Turtles on their shoulders through the streets of of New York City.

No, I'm not kidding.

Anyone who has seen "The Dark Knight Rises" will very likely recognize a similar -- and similarly stupid -- plot line.

http://plairdblog.blogspot.com/2012/08/a-brief-review-of-dark-knight-rises.html

[Genesis]

Found this on Feicebuhk the other day. Other than the "York" misspelling, I think it's appropriate.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/558374_406644352726638_580110891_n.jpg

Since when was Bane from a ninja clan? This flick is all whacked out.

[oldmanwinters]

Holy cow, Genesis, did you just come up with that or did you find it somewhere?

I love it.

[Genesis]

Nah, if I'd come up with it, it'd have vastly improved punctuation.

Seriously, though, who doesn't want to see Bane get shredded, now that this has come up?

[ZariusTwo]

DKR hate is so passe.

People only do it because there butthurt it's a far more structured movie than the Avengers

[Jester]

Yeah, people have no idea just how good it is. If they don't like it they are obviously complete idiots who know nothing....

Seriously, can no one ever have an opinion that differs from the assumed consensus?

[JonesyKitty]

Found this on Feicebuhk the other day. Other than the "York" misspelling, I think it's appropriate.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/558374_406644352726638_580110891_n.jpg

Since when was Bane from a ninja clan? This flick is all whacked out.

lol nice picture :P

[Genesis]

DKR hate is so passe.

People only do it because they're butthurt it's a far more structured movie than the Avengerslol at sneaking Avengers hate in a dismissal of Dark Knight hate.
Everyone loves irony.

Seriously, can no one ever have an opinion that differs from the assumed consensus?You know the answer, already.

[marcelangelo]

hi guys!

I've seen the dark knight rises a week ago and I was actually pretty pleased with it...found that picture with shreddder and bane on fb, too, but on mine the shredder part only had these words to offer:BITCH PLEASE!....;)
I can understand one being annoyed with the exagerated seriousness/pathos in nolans batman movies that pete described, but that bothered me-if at all that much-more in the last batman movie than in this one....I really like what chris has done in this trilogy...

I think the overhyped seriousness(which is as stupid as it is to name it that way in my eyes) can be found in MANY superhero movies these days unfortuntelly...how glad a I that humour is in some form always been a part of tmnt...

[Koi]

There is a picture that looks like that one that has been recycled on Tumblr for quite awhile now, the only exception is that the shredder just says, "Bitch Please" as a response, like Marcelangelo's facebook find.

The Dark Knight Rises is a great movie, and I don't understand the hate at all.

[Jayhan]

Found this on Feicebuhk the other day. Other than the "York" misspelling, I think it's appropriate.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/558374_406644352726638_580110891_n.jpg

Since when was Bane from a ninja clan? This flick is all whacked out.

Hahahahah. Now that I've seen this, I agree, Shredder all of a sudden seems more badass than Bane.
And I agree with some people when saying that "the Dark Knight Rises" is a fantastic movie. I do have to say, however, that Nolan had a more realistic take on the franchise, and has in some ways made it his own genre. There is definitely the lack of supernatural and mystical elements in the movie, but therefore has discreet details in it.
And, of course, Nolan tried something different with Bane, made him more gruesome, strong and cruel than ever, all points which could be the reason why he "supposedly" took over the clan (I don't remember if it was him or Talia).

[Donnie]

I saw that photo the other day, and I was shocked that I didn't pick up on the similarities when I first saw the DKR.

DKR was all over the place story-wise, and the middle of the movie was, quite frankly, uninteresting. I didn't really care for Bane, but Shredder is the perfect villain for Turtles. So yes, Shredder over Bane, and props to whoever made the initial connection between the two. It's funny that PL caught it (I am assuming) before seeing (if he has seen it at this point) the photo caption.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

DKR hate is so passe.

People only do it because there butthurt it's a far more structured movie than the Avengers



Right...well I hate DKR and not sure what you mean by it being passe, cause everyone I've talked to (other than me, a few friends, and I guess Peter Laird) loved the movie, to the extreme of a few have given out death threats if you disagree with them.

Unlike you, I'm fine with others opinions. After stuff like what happened in Colorado, we should learn to be more like Human Beings, for crying out loud...

We can still be honest, and say "I like this" and "I don't like that"...but acting like others' opinions are beneath yours? You need to learn to grow up. It's called being Respectful.

And Sorry if I didn't like a movie that had:

*Bane sounding like a goofy Sean Connery, with his face mask looking like Reptile from Mortal Kombat
*Someone just basically punches Bruce Wayne's back once and his vertebrae is put back in place, and after a few sit-ups and push-ups his back is
A-OK...even though he later climbs up a giant wall with a rope around his waist, falls down (which would have easily snapped his back again...but somehow doesn't) and does it again and again
*Wayne getting back into Gotham...a place that you can't get back into and is blocked off...maybe he teleported there?
*When Wayne gets back, the first person he goes to is Catwoman...the one person who tricked him, trapped him with Bane, and thus someone who got his back screwed up...that's really smart
*Catwoman was useless and badly played in that movie, in my opinion
*Fight scenes that are as exciting as a tea party, even the first Ninja Turtles film had fight scenes that had more impact than the ones in this flick...
*Not one memorable action sequence, to me
*Batman is barely in a Batman movie...that makes a lot of sense...it should have just been called Wayne Manor or The Bruce Wayne Chronicles...yes I understand it's supposed to be more like a crime drama than an action film, but to me it failed on that level...and when Batman is in the picture, he just gets beat up, beat up, and beat up...until Catwoman needs to save him...
*All cops going into the sewer at the same time just to be trapped...you know, cause they don't know the words "divide and conquer", I guess?
*The end battle...cops vs. the criminals, and no one uses guns?? All hand to hand? Seriously?
*The Death of Bane is the definition of Anticlimactic

[oldmanwinters]

Gee, people, I started this thread so we could all imagine the first movie ending with the turtles being paraded around NYC on the shoulders of liberated humans coming out of the sewers.

I mean, who wouldn't wanna see a Turtles movie like that? :tlol:

[ToTheNines]

Everyone loves irony.

All that prick does is contradict himself.

[Genesis]

*Bane sounding like a goofy Sean ConneryFriend of mine said he sounded most like Patrick Stewart trying to imitate Sean Connery. I can get behind that description. They might as well have used another character, 'cause it doesn't seem like he acted like Bane at all. Seems to me they just used the name and a vague concept of the real Bane just for the back-breaking.
Shredder all of a sudden seems more badass than Bane.There's a reason for that, y'know...

[Spitfire]

DKR hate is so passe.

People only do it because there butthurt it's a far more structured movie than the Avengers

No one was talking about The Avengers.

And why does it seem difficult for people to like both? Also why the hell are people even comparing them? Aside from both being based off comic characters they couldn't have less in common. The Nolan Batman films aren't even comic movies as far as I'm concerned. They're crime dramas that happen to feature a protagonist in a cape.

[TMNT_Guy]

No one was talking about The Avengers.

And why does it seem difficult for people to like both? Also why the hell are people even comparing them?
I'm just gonna leave this here.
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[Candy Kappa]

randomguy is awesome

[Xav]

Found this on Feicebuhk the other day. Other than the "York" misspelling, I think it's appropriate.
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/558374_406644352726638_580110891_n.jpgA few of these similarities I don't get. When did Shredder hide out in the sewer, and when was Bane ever in warehouses, and when did Bane recruit runaway and homeless youth? It seems like he just broke a bunch of guys out of prison.

[Lukas Sprehn]

*Wayne getting back into Gotham...a place that you can't get back into and is blocked off...maybe he teleported there?

He had the jet thingy, and honestly, if you've been paying attention to the dialogue in The Dark Knight, and to the sign that says there's 14 miles to Gotham in the 60s Batman and Robin show whenever they jumped into the Batmobile to drive there, you would know that Wayne Manor isn't even on city ground. It is outside. Though, he did grow up in the city.

[1984TMNT]

TDKR is an awesome, awesome movie. The Dark Knight trilogy is arguably one of the best in film, in my opinion. Obviously, there will be people who don't like it. That's always the case. Most people I know that are critical of movies really enjoyed the movie. Not sure what the hate is all about, but whatever.

The more I read PL's opinions on things, the more I get the sense that they guy is just hard to please all around. Oh well, his loss I say. People who mostly see the ugly before the good are doomed to roam the Earth unsatisfied, which sounds like a miserable existence to me.

[oldmanwinters]

I really couldn't care less about PL's opinion of the Batman movie. I really liked it, most people who saw it loved it, but there are also lots of people who were disappointed. Everyone is entitled to have their own opinion and articulate it publicly. Doesn't matter to me.

But I just think it's funny that there was an early proposal to make the TMNT film about the Foot Clan trapping all people under the city, and the Turtles would have have become public heroes at the end of the day.

It's amazing to think about what the first movie could have been like. I'd LOVE to see some of the early script proposals. I also wonder if cartoon-exclusive elements like Rocksteady, Bebop, Krang, and the Technodrome were involved in any of those wild early studio pitches.

I really am glad Eastman & Laird had such influence on the movie we got. In my eyes, Steve Barron is a hero for giving us a movie that appealed to all ages but still borrowed heavily from the comics. If the film had been done wrong, we could have ended up with something far worse than the Mario Bros. live-action movie.

[Leo656]

Dark Knight Rises wasn't perfect but I didn't find what was "wrong" with it even worth complaining about. It's a movie, it was fine.

[MoreCowbell5263]

I enjoyed TDKR more than TDK. But I'm in the minority that feel TDK is incredibly overrated.

Batman Begins is still my favorite in the trilogy, though.

[sgtfbomb]

I liked all three films almost equally. I really did enjoy the new film. A lot of people complained about how it was dumb that nobody could climb out of that hole, but, really, I doubt most of them could even climb up a mock cliff in their local mall. :lol:

[Slade]

He had the jet thingy, and honestly, if you've been paying attention to the dialogue in The Dark Knight, and to the sign that says there's 14 miles to Gotham in the 60s Batman and Robin show whenever they jumped into the Batmobile to drive there, you would know that Wayne Manor isn't even on city ground. It is outside. Though, he did grow up in the city.

That was the 60's. In TDK, Dent asks Bruce if Wayne Manor was even in Gotham. Bruce gives a sort of laugh and says "The palace? You know you might want to find out where your jurisdiction ends." Seems to me, in Nolan universe(unless I misunderstand) is in Gotham.

[Leo656]

Bruce said "The Palisades." It's from the comic, I thought it was neat they put that in there.