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TMNT is cooler than MOTU
08-30-2012, 01:20 PM
For those of you who've read it (or at least read the summaries on various sites), how would you rate it?

pannoni1
08-30-2012, 02:00 PM
I'd rate it a D (a few glimmers), as despite having way more success, simply having Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady, and the Technodrome will leave people to see these for the first time ever on the big screen. But 90% of the script is garbage with nonsense, bad jokes, weak battles, subpar grammar, and of course Schader and the Alien Turtles.

hitmonkey
08-30-2012, 02:41 PM
It's terrible, and frustratingly so. All they would need to do for a successful movie is combine elements of the early Mirage issues with the first season of the Fred Wolf cartoon, and instead they chose to try and re-invent the Turtles because for some reason many Hollywood types can't stand adapting things without putting a colossal new spin on it.

Personally, I'd start the film with the rooftop battle between the Turtles and the Shredder, ripped right from issue 1 of the Mirage series. Donatello knocks Shredder off the roof, explosion of light, "The Shredder has been shredded", then opening titles. Then we're jumped forward some time later, and that's where you set up meeting April, introduce Krang and find out that the Shredder is not dead but in fact was blown through a portal to Dimension X that was somehow momentarily ripped open by the bomb. Now he's back for revenge, and he's got Krang and his Technodrome, mechanical Foot Ninja (that way the Turtles can behead and hack the crap out of them without hurting the PG-13 rating), and two mutants of his own, Bebop and Rocksteady. Krang of course would have an agenda of his own.

Sorry for the mini fanfic bit there, just popped into my head and thought I'd share.

zkarlette
08-30-2012, 03:42 PM
Man... Did you really need to include that last option?

ZariusTwo
08-30-2012, 03:45 PM
The script could easily be used for fresh characters and be a franchise-maker without the bankibility of the TMNT name. No need to take extreme liberties, just have the confidence to be completly new.

It's not a bad read, and kids would eat it up and buy the toys/play the games, just don't call it TMNT and you're butter.

Victorsaurus
08-30-2012, 04:18 PM
C. It was okay...

TurtleTitan97
08-30-2012, 04:21 PM
I'm going with the option 4, "Overall awful but a few glimmers of hope". While I did like some stuff, the script was overall pretty bad.

TMNT is cooler than MOTU
08-30-2012, 08:29 PM
Man... Did you really need to include that last option?

Yup.:trazz:

Bob
08-30-2012, 08:33 PM
I disagree with the OP's name, BTW. :tgrin:

Slade
08-30-2012, 09:13 PM
The script could easily be used for fresh characters and be a franchise-maker without the bankibility of the TMNT name. No need to take extreme liberties, just have the confidence to be completly new.

It's not a bad read, and kids would eat it up and buy the toys/play the games, just don't call it TMNT and you're butter.

My thoughts exactly.

HotJuicyBurgers
08-30-2012, 09:55 PM
Any chance someone that has the script can point me in the direction of it?

Jonathan
08-30-2012, 10:02 PM
I went with 'Overall awful...' in the poll.

Personally, I'm okay with writers (plus others involved) trying to create their own version of the TMNT story. I don't expect them to rip it straight out of the Mirage pages (they want to put their stamp on it, so they won't copy something, even if it is good). However, I do expect the Turtles to be similar to the source, or cut of the same cloth (so to speak). I think the script was just too much out there, not Turtle-like enough for me, and just plain bad. The fight scenes sounded alright (outside of the constant 'shell' attacks and other uses), but that doesn't save the overall story that I don't think I need to get into.

yagyu
08-30-2012, 10:52 PM
Yeah for true turtle fans this was a nightmare, i struggled to get through this hack job of a script. it feels like bay, nemec, and applebaum watched a few episodes of the old cartoon (including planet of the turtloids) and did no further research and figured that they could make a movie.
Casey is anything but a bad@$$, Aprils a headgame eye candy self serving brat, the turtles are completely out of character, (u dont even see them till page 15, splinter is a liar, and the foot arent ninja. :teek:
If anything from this script is included in the new movie I am all for boycotting the film and being happy with the original movie. Even the second and third movies were better then this.

Powder
08-31-2012, 12:40 AM
What gives any indication that April is a "headgame eye candy self serving brat"?

yagyu
08-31-2012, 02:03 AM
If its bay they would make it be some super model that cant act to play her, and shes kinda the stereo type girl that plays headgames with a guy, just read the script and form your own opinion, thats just mine lol.

Powder
08-31-2012, 02:22 AM
I read the script, and I did so without forming my own sexist assumptions with no ground for fair judgement.

Walkabout
08-31-2012, 05:16 AM
Id rather lick Splinter's butthole.

Bob
08-31-2012, 10:19 AM
Yeah for true turtle fans this was a nightmare, i struggled to get through this hack job of a script. it feels like bay, nemec, and applebaum watched a few episodes of the old cartoon (including planet of the turtloids) and did no further research and figured that they could make a movie.
Casey is anything but a bad@$$, Aprils a headgame eye candy self serving brat, the turtles are completely out of character, (u dont even see them till page 15, splinter is a liar, and the foot arent ninja. :teek:
If anything from this script is included in the new movie I am all for boycotting the film and being happy with the original movie. Even the second and third movies were better then this.

Page 15 isn't actually that bad. I think that's fairly early, considering each page in a script equals one minute. The script is 119 pages. So the film will likely run over two hours.

CyberCubed
08-31-2012, 10:33 AM
April being a sex symbol with big boobs was awful.

chrisdude
08-31-2012, 03:56 PM
I don't think it's nearly as bad as the excerpts I saw around the web lead me to believe. I do believe those bits were the worst parts.

I'm uncomfortable with the way they used shells, and obviously the origin stuff...

yagyu
08-31-2012, 11:21 PM
Oh yeah the whole we r bullet resistant (basically bullet proof) was totally retarded. lol

TheCanadiandrome
08-31-2012, 11:32 PM
Voted second to last option

Powder
09-01-2012, 12:29 AM
Oh yeah the whole we r bullet resistant (basically bullet proof) was totally retarded. lol

As is your sentence structure. Don't be so quick to make an insult of the mentally challenged when your grasp on English is equally ludicrous.

Jester
09-01-2012, 12:39 AM
As is your sentence structure. Don't be so quick to make an insult of the mentally challenged when your grasp on English is equally ludicrous.http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3f0IEt2eF9NP3hGOksK9izuHvEmJJO TtaiE0Ud1ZfY24oxDrB&t=1
AH SNAP!

zkarlette
09-01-2012, 12:58 AM
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT3f0IEt2eF9NP3hGOksK9izuHvEmJJO TtaiE0Ud1ZfY24oxDrB&t=1
AH SNAP!

LMAO!:lol:

Krutch
09-01-2012, 05:27 AM
I'll echo another poster's sentiments here. The script is a fun, mindless, high-octaine sci-fi movie which I think could be alot of fun to watch.

The problem is its a Ninja Turtles movie.

Making Casey the lead character is an interesting choice which I'm not entirely against but he ironically shows little depth. His character doesn't really have an arc. He's pretty much the same person he was at the beginning of the film, only leaving his mother because of things beyond his control.

April was worthless. If they want to make her a reporter, sure, go nuts. But she's a pretty shallow character too. The biggest "surprise" is that she was just an errand girl. Ooooooh. Exciting. I'm really getting bored to death with eye candy supportive characters who are mildy snarky and little else.

As for the turtles themselves, I was actually pretty okay with how their personalities were handled, especially the first half of the movie. Quite pleased that Donatello seemed a bit more prominently featured that he has been in any of the other flicks. Mikey still seemed to take a backseat to the rest though. Leo felt a bit more lighthearted than usual, which I didn't mind. Raph was a bit too unlikeable(funny, considering he's my favorite) with his constant bitching.

Though I'll say it again; there's not a whole lot going here. What's their individual arcs?

Raph - Wants to go solo, but they bond during the fight so he wants to stay, but then they seperate at the end and he's pretty okay with it. That's an... odd journey.
Leo - Tries to defend Splinters motives..? I guess thats his thing but its not really an arc.
Mike - Umm...
Don - Err...

I guess you could argue their journey is them as brothers, a unit discovering their roots. But then I'd argue thats retarded and leave it at that.

The plot. Where the hell to begin?

(Actually, side note, I hate the way this script is written. I've read other scripts which like to throw in commentary like "HOLY SH*T!" or "WHAT THE F*CK?!" into the scene description, but it just makes me think I'm listening to some excited 14 year old talk about this "super awesome!" story he's come up with when it's really just getting in the way. I should be feeling this if you've build the story correctly, it doesn't need to be, literally, spelled out to me.)

Okay, back to the plot. Um... It's... okay, look. I said it at the beginning. The parts that make this movie so frustrating is the fact its a Ninja Turtles movie. So, when I see such drastic changes made to the origin, Shredder, The Foot, etc... Its aggravating because we're attached to what's established. What we expect. What we want.

If you were to rename all the characters and change their turtle heritage to, **** I don't care... fish and release this under a different title, I'm not sure anyone would even catch on that it used to be TMNT script.

TMNT fans expect/deserve certain things in a TMNT movie. This don't deliver the goods. There wasn't even a final showdown with the turtles and Shraeder. Just Shraeder, Beebop, and Rocksteady shooting side by side and getting electrocuted. The hell?

I could go on but it's 4:38am. Tired. A little drunk.

'Night all ;)

Xav
09-01-2012, 05:59 AM
April being a sex symbol with big boobs was awful.It says nothing about the size of her boobs in the script, and I'm guessing you must hate OT April.

Walkabout
09-01-2012, 06:04 AM
This script sucks a f*&load of f#$k

asfaloth12
09-02-2012, 09:24 PM
Overall awful but a few glimmers of hope.
There were a few interesting ideas here and there, but the majority of the script is quite terrible. The dialogue is god-awful, the plot is iffy, and it's just a mess right now. Hopefully, they can shape it into something decent, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Oh, and Schraeder? Seriously?

chrisdude
09-02-2012, 11:26 PM
Oh yeah the whole we r bullet resistant (basically bullet proof) was totally retarded. lolThat, and retracting into their shells and bouncing around. That would look stupid.

Krutch
09-03-2012, 06:47 AM
I was just thinking about the ending. If this is really how they planned on ending the film as the start of a franchise, what the hell could we expect in the sequel? 16 Turtles?!

Vivi
09-03-2012, 07:42 AM
Great! I'd like to see it twice in the heater.

Made of fire.

chrisdude
09-03-2012, 10:35 AM
I was just thinking about the ending. If this is really how they planned on ending the film as the start of a franchise, what the hell could we expect in the sequel? 16 Turtles?!With mutiny.

Xav
09-03-2012, 02:30 PM
I was just thinking about the ending. If this is really how they planned on ending the film as the start of a franchise, what the hell could we expect in the sequel? 16 Turtles?!Haha, Peter Laird would go insane!

lethrhd
09-04-2012, 12:58 AM
does anyone have a link to the script? id love to read it but its been taken down from tmntnottant

Xav
09-04-2012, 01:09 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?fbshx0svrpe7efe

lethrhd
09-04-2012, 01:14 AM
awesome, thanks man

Spitfire
09-08-2012, 02:58 AM
I'm pretty all or nothing so to me it's all garbage. Not that I saw anything worthwhile in the script anyways. The only smart decision they made was focusing on Casey as the delivery system for the story. One line of dialogue or one action scene isn't enough to make me condone a piece of crap movie. Expendables 2 for example was trash. Seeing one of my favorite action heroes, Arnold, come out of retirement to shoot people and say one liners isn't enough to make me think otherwise.

People make excuses for the script for the same reason I hate it, because it's turtles. If it was anything else we wouldn't even be discussing it. At most we'd probably be laughing at how there's a few characters who look like rip offs of turtles characters because honestly that's all this script has.

Jester
09-08-2012, 03:42 AM
Though I loathe this script with every fiber of my being, just because a movie is "garbage" doesn't mean it can't still be fun. Didn't watch either Expendables, but I've seen enough crap that I enjoyed despite it being crap. Pretty sure that this movie to me wouldn't be that kind of "garbage" because it's the Turtles and that's where I'd draw the line. What can I say I'm biased. You can make fun crap movies all day long, just stay away from the Turtles.

ctt4lfecw
09-09-2012, 09:41 PM
I would rather 69 Rahzar's dirty @$$hole than pay my hard earned money to see this b.s.

Baxter Stockmen
09-11-2012, 10:56 AM
I could never go with the bottom option. Yeah the script was horrible.

but the fact that they are considering a tmnt live action movie to me is a glimmer of hope.

ryukenden
09-12-2012, 07:04 AM
Turtle Tunes had more dignity than this overgrown ugly excuse for a script.

TurtleMaster4
09-27-2012, 07:46 PM
Ok, it's been a long time since i stopped reading the script, which was about page 73, but now, i FINALLY got back to finish it! And, while i could write i lengthy review on it, there's already a few you guys wrote, so it ain't worth the time. Instead, i'll just say what i liked and didn't like. So heres my short write up.

Ok, i'll start with the bad.

I must admit, the whole alien concept isn't as bad as I though, and i do like the prophecy of the "chosen ones" but i do not like them as aliens, they could still be mutants while being the "chosen ones" right?

Colonial Schrader is an unnecessary change, just keep him as Oroko Saki, THE SHREDDER! I also am not the fan of him starting out as a mutant, i mean, he should start out human, but then turn him later into a mutant if you want to.

Casey moving in with april at the end is quite annoying to me, but that's cause I think moving in before maraige it sorta wrong, speaking from a certain point of view. But i'm not going to complain about this one much, cause it hardly is bothering me. (It doesn't surprise me though, cause this movie has bay involved with it!)

Oh, and as for Raph wanting to leave the group, that's been explored already, and i think we they should leave it in the past, but i wouldn't mind it.

Oh, and the foot are ninja's, not a military group!

Now, as for the things i liked.

I like how it started with the turtles put in a cage, and ended with Schrader put in a cage after the climax. Great imagery!

I like how Krang was put in the script, and how he controls a whole army. He deserves that much. I'm just glad he's in the script! And they way he was depicted, he's like The Darth Sidious of the TMNT Universe!

Bebop and Rocksteady, nuf said. I'm glad to see them in some back in action!

The action sequences sound awesome! I do like how they tuch into their shells to, but i think it's a bit over done! I do like how they used "make shift" weapons in the beginning too!

The comedy is top notch too! I like how they added some things about Kung Fu panda and kermit the frog, cause, of course, it's up to date jokes!

Oh, and you can't forget splinter! i really love how he is going all yoda on every one! His action scenes sound great! Especially his battle against Bebop and Rock Steady!





So take it as you will, but I think while it could be WAY better, it should be a great popcorn flick! It obviously has it's pros and cons. Any ways, this script was "shredded" so i'm sure some of this stuff won't be in it! Let's just hope they make changes for the better, and not the worse!


Over all, I give this script a 5.3/10 turtle shell review!

Jayb
10-05-2012, 02:58 AM
from what i read of the script it sounded horrible.

odupianist
10-07-2012, 09:32 PM
Any idea if it's still available anywhere?

jonnyquest
10-08-2012, 03:47 PM
wow is it really that bad? The link in page 2 only let me read 19 pages. it started going down hill quick but I feel like I need to finish it no matter how bad it is. is there another link anywhere??

jonnyquest
10-08-2012, 04:15 PM
Wow that was horrible. I hope they can make a watchable movie

Xav
10-08-2012, 06:36 PM
Any idea if it's still available anywhere?Back on page 2
http://www.mediafire.com/view/?fbshx0svrpe7efe

Welmanshire
10-15-2012, 03:00 AM
I wasn't a fan. It really did scream Micheal Bay. The only cool thing in it I thought, was the turtles making use of their shells to slide and grind on. That would make for some cool action scenes. I don't like how they turned the mythology upside down. That said. If they did make that movie, I would go see it. Just because it is the Turtles.

shinefra
10-20-2012, 12:27 AM
I hope the author dies....



painfully.

Whatswiththeheadbands?
10-07-2013, 02:04 PM
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/mother-of-god-meme.jpg

That was absolutely awful.

One of the worst things i have read ever.

To save paper, they should have just wrote 'Michael Bay' in crayon:lol::lol:

electric_sheep
10-07-2013, 03:12 PM
It is transformers movie with ninja turtles, so yeah it is ungodly abomination, these people obviously don't know what they are doing...

Walkabout
10-09-2013, 06:44 AM
I decided to give it another chance after skimming it back when this exploded, and it hasn't got any better.

Bri5
10-16-2013, 03:40 PM
That was the old script.There not going to use it on this .I thought they were making the script from srach

Night Watcher
10-16-2013, 08:34 PM
Hey, guys I was wondering if any of you have the script for the original film. I would love to read that.

Rooish
10-17-2013, 06:42 PM
That was pretty awful. But it got the characterizations of the Turtles mostly right. It was nice watching them play off each other.

Technogeek29
10-22-2013, 05:16 AM
To qoute myself from another thread

OT Easter eggs to distract me from how bad the movie will be

I'm still of that Opinion

pingclang
10-22-2013, 09:39 AM
I didn't make it very far, but I will never be able to un-read that. Sadly, am I the only one who thinks that a lot of this still sounds like some of the pictures we've seen?

Teal Turtle
10-23-2013, 12:17 PM
I have no idea about the script so can someone please be kind enough to give me a rundown as to what happens?