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InsaneZane
05-22-2003, 03:26 PM
It's a hard run.
The original series is classic, more amusing, but it changed the story a little bit from the original comic book.

The new series is more serious, has way more action, and follows more closly to the original comic series and movies, whichever.

I think the Red Sky series is out-classed here.
and the live action even more than RedSky.

SlayerX
05-22-2003, 03:30 PM
I'd say this series. I can't remember alot about the old show (other than what i watched on kazaa) but I can remember most of these episodes, so i'll say the 2003 series :)

The 7th Turtle
05-22-2003, 03:37 PM
well.. i can't really tell what's my favorite cause it's 2 totally different kind of shows... (i'm not even thinking of red sky or the live action :dead:)

but the old show is a true classic so i had to choose it...

Reznorite420
05-22-2003, 04:04 PM
Orignal series "anime"?

Aztec General
05-22-2003, 04:50 PM
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The original series changed the story a little bit from the original comic book.
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The Old Series changed the story "A LITTLE"? The only similarity was the names of the characters. The New Series or the first movie changed the story "a little". The Old Series completely ignored the Mirage storyline.

GK Punk
05-22-2003, 05:13 PM
Orignal series "anime"?

Well anime is the japanese word for animation, so maybe that's what he meant? *shrugs

Anyways, I go for the new series the best, even though I still love the original

Karpo_007
05-22-2003, 05:38 PM
As long as I have known Mirage, I have prefered it's Great Story telling, deep characters and of course the Family aspect. Old show lacked this while the new has every one of these. Therefore the choice for me is easy.

Tetsu Deinonychus
05-22-2003, 05:47 PM
The first season of the old cartoon was animated in japan. Also, i think the first season was fairly mirage based though not nearly as much as the new show.

I voted for the new show however. It totally outclasses the other TV series.

Karpo_007
05-22-2003, 05:52 PM
Wel I don't know if the first season had that much mirage influence in it, but it has the best animation of the show and I like it far better than anything that follows.

Tetsu Deinonychus
05-22-2003, 05:56 PM
It had the foot crime wave. It had Baxter and the mousers. It had a battle with a street gang. And it had the TMNT rescue April. That's about it.

Karpo_007
05-22-2003, 05:59 PM
Actually thats right... There seems to be few similarities afterall.

Shellfox
05-22-2003, 06:03 PM
Since noone else ever will say it, as far as shows go Next Mutation influcned me more so than any other the other series

Krangfan
05-22-2003, 07:13 PM
The original for sure! It had so many of it's own original ideas, such as the Foot clan being robots, and the whole Dimension X thing.

XERO
05-22-2003, 08:52 PM
As much as I want to see the old show again, the new show has it beat.

Better Action, Better Humor, Better Music (though the Original Theme Music is legendary), and of course, Better Turtles. 8)

Ninja Tiptup
05-22-2003, 08:54 PM
It's too hard to say which is the best series. I'm quite partial to both the new one and the original TMNT. I like both equally, but I LOVE the originals theme song.

InsaneZane
05-23-2003, 12:03 PM
Wow, Over 100 views and only 19 votes so far...
I guess it really is a hard question, huh?

Karpo_007
05-23-2003, 12:24 PM
Well it's like comparing Terminator and American pie. Two totally diffrent things, I guess it's possible to like both equally. I watched whole old cartoon during last summer and fall, and came to the conclusion that I've over grown it.

That Matt Guy
05-23-2003, 12:24 PM
I like the original, but it is not anime! :x

Barkworm
05-23-2003, 12:26 PM
When I was a kid TMNT was always my favourite cartoon show but nowadays I have totally lost interest in it. I still enjoy other old cartoons I watched like Transformers, MOTU and Bucky O'Hare but if I watch one of the old Turtles episodes it's just... well it has a few laughs but that's it. It's a bit sad since I loved the show that much. Anyone else feel the same way (and can say it without bashing)?

Kid Icarus
05-23-2003, 12:27 PM
I like the original, but it is not anime! :x

Any cartoon made in Japan can be counted as Anime. Last I read it was made in Japan, so it could be Anime.

My favorite would have to be the movies if they count... then the new cartoon, then the old, then the comics (as i've only read 4 total TMNT comics, i can't really judge them too well).

Karpo_007
05-23-2003, 12:30 PM
Im not sure if telling how you feel is considered bashing, but I feel the same way. But it's not just the TMNT, I get bored with every show with same format, IE Villain has a plan, heroes stop him, Villain runs away, new plan in next episode. After fourth season the ratings began to drop to. Red sky was a radical move to get them back up and it worked. I still think seasons 8-10 are the best after the 5 part miniseries.

That Matt Guy
05-23-2003, 12:30 PM
Any cartoon made in Japan can be counted as Anime. Last I read it was made in Japan, so it could be Anime.

That's too technical, the word anime conjures up images of dough eyed guys with spikey hair or giant robots. I don't think of the old TMNT toon when I hear the word anime. Just because it was drawn in Japan doesn't make it anime.

Karpo_007
05-23-2003, 12:32 PM
Only the first season were done in Japan. You can tell it clearly, the animation totally changes in the second season.

Deathknight
05-23-2003, 12:49 PM
I never could tell, always looked the same to me. Although some of the characters were drawn differently... Baxter looked a lot different in season 2 before he turned into a fly. As much of a good job as an excellent job they have done on the new series I'm a classic fan all the way. The new tmnt has humor but I'll never get over how much I enjoy watching the old series and laughing at how funny it sometimes was. I also will never get over the technodrome, a really sweet battle machine that beats the heck out of Shredder having a meer building IMO. I also liked the cast better. In the new series I really think they made April look a bit slutty. I mean she's supposed to be a really smart scientist yet she wears this skimpy outfit. I also like the old Shredder, I said it in the new series forum and I'll say it once more. I found Shredder to be a wus in the new series when he fought in episode 11. Only once did he fight them fairly, all the other times he just waited for the turtles to be distracted by foot soldiers or whatever and knocked them over. What kind of pathetic strategy is that? The old Shredder was an overconfident idiot who thought he was superior to everyone but at least he took the turtles on sometimes. Although he did have Bebop & Rocksteady + foot soldiers fight a lot he had his share of times fighting one of the turtles or Splinter. The one major simularity I'm seeing between the 2 Shredder's is their dependency of their minions. New Shredder wouldn't fight the turtles without his foot soldiers and Old Shredder usually didn't fight without the help of Bebop and Rocksteady taking on a few of the TMNT. Just my thoughts.

Tetsu Deinonychus
05-23-2003, 12:53 PM
When I was a kid TMNT was always my favourite cartoon show but nowadays I have totally lost interest in it. I still enjoy other old cartoons I watched like Transformers, MOTU and Bucky O'Hare but if I watch one of the old Turtles episodes it's just... well it has a few laughs but that's it. It's a bit sad since I loved the show that much. Anyone else feel the same way (and can say it without bashing)?
I agree, but The new one fills me with the excact same feeling the old one used to. I feel more nostalgic watching the new one then the old one because the feeling of getting up early on a saturday to watch an all new ep. of TMNT is back. The magic didn't go away, It just transferred to the new series. :)

Karpo_007
05-23-2003, 01:00 PM
I like the original serious TMNT over the humour, ever since I laid my eyes on Issue #1. You say new Shredder is a wus, you don't understand the character. If it were only the 4 TMNT vs Shredder, they might have a chance of winning. Of course he uses his army. In this world character aren't immortal. And the main thing: Shredder is not a honourable Ninja. Attacking from behind suits the character perfectly. And who did run away as a result of every battle?

Tokka-B
05-23-2003, 01:24 PM
Not an honorable Ninja? That is an oxymoron, honor is the way of the ninja...

Anyway, I liked the old one, each show was complete and had a lot less commercial annoyances.

Krangfan
05-23-2003, 01:38 PM
Anyway, I liked the old one, each show was complete and had a lot less commercial annoyances.

true true! I hate all those friggin' commerical interuptions during the new show!!!! :x

Nturtle
05-23-2003, 02:11 PM
Alright, you're a newbie so its okay, but Krang has pointed out a lot that he doesn't want people making 'Which was better' threads all the time, mainly because they lead to a lot of arguments which get preety nasty.

So cut it out with these.

Karpo_007
05-23-2003, 04:55 PM
There hasn't been any argument yet, just change of opinions. And Tokka, yes Shredder is not honourable Ninja. Yoshi's Last words "Those who live without Honor will end without honor". Thats how it has always been in TMNT.

InsaneZane
05-23-2003, 05:37 PM
The commercials are especially annoying for me considering i record each and every episope on tape.

Karpo_007
05-23-2003, 05:56 PM
Luckily I don't have that problem, I download the eps and they are add free. Except the applegators.

Krangfan
05-23-2003, 07:22 PM
The commercials are especially annoying for me considering i record each and every episope on tape.

same here

Tokka-B
05-23-2003, 07:31 PM
Don't worry insane, Nturtle just gets annoyed about these types of threads, but if you want to post them I see no harm.

Anyway, yea Karpo I see that, but even that is only Yoshi's view on him...if Saki himself claims he is not honorable, then I see your point.

TheShredder
05-23-2003, 07:34 PM
I say the new series its the most serious.

cqb101
05-23-2003, 07:53 PM
New series by far.

BTW, TheShredder your sig is really cool.

Kid Icarus
05-23-2003, 08:22 PM
Any cartoon made in Japan can be counted as Anime. Last I read it was made in Japan, so it could be Anime.

That's too technical, the word anime conjures up images of dough eyed guys with spikey hair or giant robots. I don't think of the old TMNT toon when I hear the word anime. Just because it was drawn in Japan doesn't make it anime.

and would it be my fault you haven't educated your self on what the vast majority of anime REALLY is? dough eyed guys with spikey hair and/or giant robots is such a small sector of anime, its like saying all comics are exactaly like TMNT. I know you won't change your oppinion, but at least be informed :roll: .

Reznorite420
05-23-2003, 09:52 PM
The first season of the old cartoon was animated in japan.That doesn't automatically make it "anime" per se; I keep trying to tell you that to me, "anime" is a genre/style of cartoon, not just a cartoon that's simply drawn and/or animated by Japanese.

EDIT: Well, looks like Matthew beat me to it.

Reznorite420
05-23-2003, 09:57 PM
And for the last time, when will all of you understand that a true fan of TMNT doesn't like one universe over another; if it has the TMNT lable on it, it's good, IMO. The only thing that I don't regard as TMNT is TNM :roll:

Tetsu Deinonychus
05-23-2003, 10:02 PM
Rez you twice read my mind.

But, I was saying the old show could be considered anime, not that I considered it anime.

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Tokka-B
05-23-2003, 10:29 PM
I think it would be an insult to call the old cartoon anime... :x

Tetsu Deinonychus
05-23-2003, 10:58 PM
An insult to Anime maybe.

InsaneZane
05-24-2003, 02:16 AM
Alright, you're a newbie so its okay, but Krang has pointed out a lot that he doesn't want people making 'Which was better' threads all the time, mainly because they lead to a lot of arguments which get preety nasty.

So cut it out with these.

Yeah, I guess I should have added the options..

"Like so and so equally"
and
"Hate them all"

to the poll, huh?

It's not which was BETTER dude... it's what you THINK is BETTER.
THATS WHAT WORDS ARE FOR.

Dont get mad at me, dude... I dont even know you.

Yeah, I'm a new-b, but probably as much or more of a TMNT as you.... and I do know waht is O. K. for this forum.

InsaneZane
05-24-2003, 02:20 AM
Hello? Anime dosn't all look the same.

Believe me... I am not a fan of japanese animation cartoons OR in general...

Tokka-B
05-24-2003, 02:56 AM
Nah, just an insult to the cartoon...

And InsaneZane, which you think is better is the same as which is better in this forum. Don't try to argue that.

InsaneZane
05-24-2003, 03:05 AM
Nah, just an insult to the cartoon...

And InsaneZane, which you think is better is the same as which is better in this forum. Don't try to argue that.


No, I think yer wrong.

Because... one is FACT and one is OPINION
Those are known as OPPOSITES

Only an idiot would think they are the same thing,
BTW... you shouldn't speak for everyone like that... it's kinda rude.

Krang
05-24-2003, 04:02 AM
Alright, you're a newbie so its okay, but Krang has pointed out a lot that he doesn't want people making 'Which was better' threads all the time, mainly because they lead to a lot of arguments which get preety nasty.

So cut it out with these.Actually, I only meant that the pointless ones should be stopped. It's ok to post them every once in a while as long as the original cartoon isn't bashed (and as long as the forum isn't spammed with them like it was once).I think it would be an insult to call the old cartoon anime... :xIf you start your anti-anime trolling again, you're going to get banned.

Karpo_007
05-24-2003, 06:52 AM
And for the last time, when will all of you understand that a true fan of TMNT doesn't like one universe over another; if it has the TMNT lable on it, it's good, IMO. The only thing that I don't regard as TMNT is TNM :roll:

We all don't need to understand somwthing that doesn't make any sense. True fab of LoTR can like Original Books better than the movies, Spider-Man fans can like Original comics more than cartoon versions or movies or the other way around. It does not make you any less "true" fan if you like one version better than other.

That Matt Guy
05-24-2003, 07:30 AM
It's not anime, just because it was drawn in Japan does not make it anime. If I went to Japan and drew a picture, would it be anime because it was drawn in Japan? No.

Karpo_007
05-24-2003, 08:34 AM
Anime means animation done in japan by japanese. Thats why first season of TMNT could be considered anime.

Tetsu Deinonychus
05-24-2003, 11:05 AM
If you start your anti-anime trolling again, you're going to get banned.
Thank you Krang. :)

Anyway, I don't consider the old show anime but I understand why it could be considered anime. Everyone has their own definition, I guess.
Anyway, we all know what he meant.

Tokka-B
05-24-2003, 11:42 AM
Very well Krang, I think everyone already got that point anyway.

Zane, since you are new I didn't expect you to really understand what I said at first anyway. So here it is: Yes, to any normal person one would look like an opinion and one would look like a fact. Yet in this forum, and I have witnessed countless threads dealing with this, the thread will almost always turn into which is better with a bunch of bias replies...Which you think is better makes no difference...it will just hide the fact that the thread will turn into a debate of some sort.

Tetsu Deinonychus
05-24-2003, 03:25 PM
Tokka has a point, but this one is staying pretty civil, so far.

InsaneZane
05-24-2003, 07:43 PM
Very well Krang, I think everyone already got that point anyway.

Zane, since you are new I didn't expect you to really understand what I said at first anyway. So here it is: Yes, to any normal person one would look like an opinion and one would look like a fact. Yet in this forum, and I have witnessed countless threads dealing with this, the thread will almost always turn into which is better with a bunch of bias replies...Which you think is better makes no difference...it will just hide the fact that the thread will turn into a debate of some sort.

well, let the debating begin.

I'm just kidding

Reznorite420
05-24-2003, 08:02 PM
Anime means animation done in japan by japanese. Thats why first season of TMNT could be considered anime.You just love to ignore my posts, don't you?

Anybody who accuses me of jumping to conclusions on this matter is more guilty of jumping to conclusions than I am: I DO happen to know the difference between "real" anime and "goofy" anime. The "real" anime is stuff like Akira and the like, whereas "goofy" anime is the stuff like Ultimate Muscle, Sailor Moon, etc. I don't take preference to either one, it's just not my taste.

TMNT is not anime...never was, never will be, deal with it.

Karpo_007
05-25-2003, 03:56 AM
First season was made in Japan by Japanese and can be considered anime. That is the real definition of the word Anime, I don't care what yours is. Deal with it. And it is not by all means a negative thing, in that time Japanese animation was way ahead of western. And it show when the series go to season 2.

Jephael
05-25-2003, 07:23 AM
I thought season 2's animation was just as good. My only complaint though was how they messed with the turtles' belt initials so the coloring was off for awhile.

Karpo_007
05-25-2003, 07:42 AM
Famerate is lower, and battle scenes are un inuuative and clearly not as well animated. That sort of things. Also the looks of the turtles changed but some people have said they like the second season look better.

J Legault
05-25-2003, 06:46 PM
I haven't seen too many of the original series nor have I seen all of them. NTNM I hardly got to see that show, I need to get that East meets West Video. I like the New Series it more improved and better than any previous titles. The turtles are looking better, Splinter has different color fur. The Shredder is more evil than the other ones. I've seen all 15 episodes so far.

Karpo_007
05-26-2003, 01:41 AM
The time between the 2 shows is long, they couldn't have pulled something like the new show back in the say.