View Full Version : My one fear for this show = Mutant of the week
CyberCubed
09-30-2012, 01:32 PM
About the only flaw for this show I could see happening is a very repetitive, "mutant of the week" type show where the Turtles come across a new mutant they must battle every episode ala Snakeweed.
We already know about Dogpound and Fishface, but already from the previews and episode summaries they're basing whole episodes around introducing new mutants.
Episode 3 has them introducing a guy who eventually becomes that black spider blob mutant seen in the previews, and one of the following episode titles is, "Monkey Business," which very likely introduces that mutant monkey we saw Don fighting in another preview.
I really, really hope the show doesn't get stuck in a rut of just throwing new mutants at the Turtles ever week, and that's IMO my only possible fear for this show as it progresses. We already know about a number of mutant characters coming, but I hope the show finds some way to work them in that's actually done well.
chrisdude
09-30-2012, 01:40 PM
Yeesh. I don't read episode previews, so I wouldn't have seen all that. Nor do I recognize the name's you're talking about.
Heck, maybe there are enough monsters for monster of the week...
CyberCubed
09-30-2012, 01:42 PM
We know from the toys and a few of those preview clips Nick posted online about some upcoming mutants. We saw brief scenes of this black spider blob mutant facing Raph and another Monkey mutant battling Donatello.
I just hope each new episode isn't just about fighting a new mutant.
MikeandRaph87
09-30-2012, 01:52 PM
I like have a number of mutants because they are some of the best character like Slash,Leatherhead, Bebop,Rocksteady, and the Punk Frogs makes a great team B if ever needed though your right in that it should be spread out. A different mutant like every 10 episodes and reoccur maybe just twice a season to keep from being over or underexposed. The right old and new characters need to be featured and not too often yet not infrequent either. Lets wait and see how this mutant of the week thing pans out. I doubt it would turn out like that.
hudemx
09-30-2012, 01:54 PM
Whats bad about the Mutant of the Week concept (if they really go with it)?
Many great Shows had and have the *** of the Week concept and are enjoyed around the World.
CyberCubed
09-30-2012, 01:55 PM
Whats bad about the Mutant of the Week concept (if they really go with it)?
Many great Shows had and have the *** of the Week concept and are enjoyed around the World.
In small doses its OK, but if it happens nearly every episode its going to get beyond repetitive.
Even the original cartoon didn't use the mutant of the week formula, which is quite surprising.
STORMSHADOW__210
09-30-2012, 01:56 PM
Those are a valid concern for a tmnt fan ....but after seeing the 1st two episodes that the writers are putting a lot of clean crisp thoughtful creative polish on these episodes. Im not worried about it beings dumbed down for kids.I think like the other series from the past we will see new characters/villains /mutants but it will be cleverly worked in great story telling.
Oculus Orbus
09-30-2012, 04:27 PM
I'd love to see plenty of mutants showing up on the show, but not on every episode. I don't want to feel like I'm watching the same stuff over and over again, or even worst, extended action figures commercials.
Even the original cartoon didn't use the mutant of the week formula, which is quite surprising.Really? I thought that was one of the biggest complaints of the old toon.
BubblyShell22
09-30-2012, 04:41 PM
I agree that it'll get repetitive if they use the mutant of the week formula, but we just have to wait and see. They might surprise us.
Foot Soldier Clang
09-30-2012, 05:02 PM
I wouldn't mind a "mutant of the week" show for a while, but as the show progresses I expect that chain to be broken.
Mutant of the week type shows can be done extremely well. They may not be considered mutants, but Spectacular Spider-Man had a different villain every week up to a point. After that, they mixed things up by using same ones in different sitchy-ayshuns.
Jester
09-30-2012, 05:13 PM
If it's done well, I'm game for "freak of the week" style episodes.
oldmanwinters
09-30-2012, 05:15 PM
Man, I would love a mutant-of-the-week run of episodes. Obviously, they can't all be that way. But I'd totally welcome that style of storytelling, especially in Season 1.
TheSkeletonMan939
09-30-2012, 05:19 PM
Mutant of the week type shows can be done extremely well. They may not be considered mutants, but Spectacular Spider-Man had a different villain every week up to a point. After that, they mixed things up by using same ones in different sitchy-ayshuns.
Yeah, but Spider-Man was fighting different super-villains for a reason - the Big Man was funding Osborn to make them. And in some cases, one super villain led to the next (Electro -> Lizard; Vulture -> Green Goblin [to an extent])
The problem with TMNT following a mutant formula is that I'm afraid all the mutants will be "accidents", like SnakeWeed.
Yeah, but Spider-Man was fighting different super-villains for a reason - the Big Man was funding Osborn to make them. And in some cases, one super villain led to the next (Electro -> Lizard; Vulture -> Green Goblin [to an extent])
The problem with TMNT following a mutant formula is that I'm afraid all the mutants will be "accidents", like SnakeWeed.
Uh, OK? But we're only 2 episodes in? Stop trying to predict what will happen and just wait.
This is something I was a little afraid of, especially since we know the kraang will be making mutants. Now watching the OT I always wondered why they didn't do this since it seemed like a great idea but S5 of the OT proved the idea gets tired if used a lot.
It doesn't help that the mutant designs in the Nick show aren't very appealing like the old toys.
TerranigmaFreak
09-30-2012, 09:10 PM
I don't care as long as it's well done.
Kevin G
09-30-2012, 09:14 PM
Personally I don't mind a mutant of the week. With the exception of the primary villains Shredder, Dogpound, Fishface and The Kraang I rather see a new villain then having the Turtles fight the same villain over and over and over and over and over again. One of the reasons why I loved the TMNT so much was that people got turned in really awesome looking mutants. Half of the villains in the toy line and the show: Mutagen Man, Scumbug, Muckman and Joe Eyeball, Baxter Stockman, Rocksteady and Bebop were all humans once.
By the way, not to be sarcastic but thank you for saying that the black, blob spider thing was someone who was originally a human before he or she got turned into it, I didn't know that was human at first, it could have (or at least I thought be a monster or alien the Kraang had in their HQ lmfao.
Ecto Jedi
09-30-2012, 09:23 PM
Even the original cartoon didn't use the mutant of the week formula, which is quite surprising.
...It didn't?
CyberCubed
09-30-2012, 09:58 PM
...It didn't?
You're joking, right?
Anyone who thinks a new mutant popped up in every episode of the OT clearly hasn't watched it in years.
Coola Yagami
09-30-2012, 10:10 PM
...It didn't?
it was more of a 'new plan to get power for the Technodrome every week'. There were tons of episodes of the Turtles just fighting Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady without throwing in some new action figure based character in it. IMO, I always welcomed the new mutants cause it made things new and interesting.
I do think that we won't be seeing many of the old crew with the possible exceptions of Leatherhead, Rat King (not a mutant but a villian) and maybe Slash... but it seems they're having too much fun creating all sorts of wild and wacky new monsters for them to ever bring back Bebop, Rocksteady or say... Mondo Gecko.
CyberCubed
09-30-2012, 10:13 PM
That's my problem, a lot of these new mutants they're creating just don't seem as memorable or well designed as the classics.
I'd rather see Rahzar show up than Dogpound...
zkarlette
10-01-2012, 12:33 AM
Snake weed is definitely coming back and he looked rather cool , so I don't have a problem with this while they keep the characters interesting and cool looking.
Ecto Jedi
10-01-2012, 10:04 AM
Stinkweed (that's his name, right, and not Snakeweed, like Mikey called him?) was great. Fishface looks rad from what we've seen of the toys. It would be cool to see Bebop and Rocksteady re-tooled and re-imagined in CG, but it really isn't necessary.
We've already got Baxter Stockman coming up, Karai, The Kraang, Shredder, and Casey Jones in season 2. I think that's plenty.
DarkLightDragon
10-01-2012, 10:08 AM
^It is Snakeweed. Leo probably misprounced it on purpose.
Stinkweed (that's his name, right, and not Snakeweed, like Mikey called him?) was great. Fishface looks rad from what we've seen of the toys. It would be cool to see Bebop and Rocksteady re-tooled and re-imagined in CG, but it really isn't necessary.
We've already got Baxter Stockman coming up, Karai, The Kraang, Shredder, and Casey Jones in season 2. I think that's plenty.Don't forget, Metalhead, General Traag, and the Purple Dragons. Plus the producers said the Triceratons might show up in season 2.
Ninja Tiptup
10-01-2012, 10:32 AM
My biggest concern would be running out of ideas for how mutation occurs. A lot of them will be accidents but maybe some will be forced and others voluntary.
I've got this creeping feeling that April's dad is going to get mutated at some point.
dkram230
10-01-2012, 11:30 AM
A "mutant of the week" formula would get old. I don't like too many mutants running around because it makes the turtles seem less unique. The same thing happened in Smallville season 1 with "meteor freak of the week" and it got old fast. Luckily the writing shifted in season 2 and the series had a successful run. That being said, both shows have different target audiences and perhaps the age demographic of 5-11 would be more entertained with a "mutant of the week" formula. I hope not though, because that would probably lose me as a viewer like the Fast Forward series did.
With regards to the 80's series, I've been re-watching though them and am roughly 25 episodes in. Yes there are a few new mutants here and there, but that is not the premise of EVERY episode. I would say they have a nice mixture of mutants, aliens, monsters, and robots LOL!
And one thing a lot of people tend to forget is just because Playmates comes out with a TMNT action figure does not mean that character is going to appear in the show. At least not in the immediate future. Now I haven't read any synopsis', but unless it's confirmed in one of them, it's possible that Dogpound and Fishface are only figures at the moment. A number of the original action figures never appeared in the show, or were used as inspiration for characters in future episodes.
1984TMNT
10-01-2012, 12:30 PM
About the only flaw for this show I could see happening is a very repetitive, "mutant of the week" type show where the Turtles come across a new mutant they must battle every episode ala Snakeweed.
We already know about Dogpound and Fishface, but already from the previews and episode summaries they're basing whole episodes around introducing new mutants.
Episode 3 has them introducing a guy who eventually becomes that black spider blob mutant seen in the previews, and one of the following episode titles is, "Monkey Business," which very likely introduces that mutant monkey we saw Don fighting in another preview.
I really, really hope the show doesn't get stuck in a rut of just throwing new mutants at the Turtles ever week, and that's IMO my only possible fear for this show as it progresses. We already know about a number of mutant characters coming, but I hope the show finds some way to work them in that's actually done well.
I couldn't agree more, man. I love everything so far, but am not excited about a ton of mutants. Hope they figure out a way to make this show entertaining without hordes of mutants. With every new mutant, I feel like the TMNT become a little less special.
Jester
10-01-2012, 06:47 PM
Now I haven't read any synopsis', but unless it's confirmed in one of them, it's possible that Dogpound and Fishface are only figures at the moment.
They're in the opening sequence...
That's one aspect I missed during the 2k3 run. It lacked a lot of characters that could have made for fun toys.
One thing I always looked forward to as a kid, was getting home and watching the newest episode of TMNT. I would always cross my fingers that some of my favorite toys would show up, which they did in time.
I want this show to have the comedy and mutants, which lead to lots of toys, like the OT, but with the action and storytelling of the 2k3 series. That there would translate into the best TMNT series yet.
CyberCubed
10-01-2012, 10:15 PM
Where on earth do people get the idea the original cartoon was "mutant of the week?"
Out of 193 episodes, we have new mutants introduced in maybe 30% of the shows total episodes.
Jester
10-01-2012, 10:25 PM
Indeed, a "Krang and Shredder need _________ to repower the Technodrome" plot is more likely than a new mutant plot.
CyberCubed
10-01-2012, 10:27 PM
Indeed, a "Krang and Shredder need _________ to repower the Technodrome" plot is more likely than a new mutant plot.
Arguably we had new robots showing up more than new mutants. Possibly aliens too.
And mad scientists.
Jester
10-01-2012, 10:36 PM
Don't forget mobsters. :D
Zulithe
10-01-2012, 11:16 PM
It is too early to say if this is a concern or not. we have seen episode titles... that's about it. i agree that would be rather lazy and tiresome.
CyberCubed
10-01-2012, 11:28 PM
It is too early to say if this is a concern or not. we have seen episode titles... that's about it. i agree that would be rather lazy and tiresome.
We already know of a spider mutant, Monkey mutant, Dogpound, Fishface and Leatherhead to come.
That's in addition to Snakeweed, and I suspect we'll be seeing the likes of Slash eventually too.
Where on earth do people get the idea the original cartoon was "mutant of the week?"Peter Laird.
CyberCubed
10-02-2012, 12:03 AM
Peter Laird.
And he hasn't actually watched the OT in about 20 years. I'm pretty sure he also said he didn't watch much after Season 3.
Zulithe
10-02-2012, 02:05 AM
Season 1 has 26 episodes... while we don't know just how many more characters they are going to introduce, i don't think we are seeing a glut just yet. I don't want to see a new villain *every* episode but I also don't want to just see the turtles face off against shredder and his henchmen every 2 or 3 episodes, either.
I think we'll have a better idea of the style of show once we get a few more episodes in. Will it be the kind of show that has real story archs and lasting implications? Or do villains like the shredder just get their butt slapped, scamper away and return again every few episodes? I am getting the impression the later will not be true, as that is a rather outmoded approach these days.
FoxZerro
10-02-2012, 10:09 AM
Mutant of the week speaking in terms of Toyetics is something that I could totally seen being done for the show. However, Nick shows historically don't have huge action figure markets so with that in mind I'm not too nervous that the introduction of characters will be increased in order to make more toys.
I do think that it can make for an interesting show if the mutants who are introduced aren't just dealt with. I would enjoy if the TMNT had a rogues gallery that was bigger than just Shredder, Krang, and the Rat King
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