IDW Limited

[rich]

Just today IDW announced what they call "IDW Limited (http://idwlimited.com/)." This is a website specifically for Limited Editions, signed copies, etc. of IDW releases.

They are launching IDW Limited with 3 separate special TMNT limited edition sets of the TMNT Vol. 1 Change is Constant Deluxe Edition (http://idwlimited.com/books.html). Buying all 3 sets will set you back $725 !! :o

These types of things are relatively new to the TMNT comic book realm as Mirage never really did stuff like this. I've always sought to have a single copy of each printing of a TMNT comic, trade, or hardcover. However, just like the SDCC slipcase set, the book itself isn't limited other than the original print run (EDIT: this is a different book from the normal Deluxe Edition HC - at least in regards to cover variation - see this post (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1005733&postcount=9))...it's the stuff they are providing along with the book that makes this limited. These are definitely cool and if I had unlimited funds I'd buy all 3 sets. However, while this may fit a niche with some collectors, I've had to draw the line somewhere so I'm just buying one.

Thoughts? Any of you other TMNT comic book completists out there going to pay for these?

[Roseangelo]

However, just like the SDCC slipcase set, the book itself isn't limited other than the original print run...it's the stuff they are providing along with the book that makes this limited.

Eh? They look different to me...

[HotJuicyBurgers]

Eh? They look different to me...

These seem kind of crazy price wise

I always kind of dislike items that are made limited simply to be limited

[natecm]

Just today IDW announced what they call "IDW Limited (http://idwlimited.com/)." This is a website specifically for Limited Editions, signed copies, etc. of IDW releases.


... However, just like the SDCC slipcase set, the book itself isn't limited other than the original print run...it's the stuff they are providing along with the book that makes this limited.

You scooped me Rich!

Hi guys, I'm Nate and I'm the community manager for IDW Limited. Was planning on making a thread about this and posting some pics & answering questions. That sound interesting to anyone?

Rich, there are a lot of components that make these books different, it's not just print run. I can definitely break down that down for you. Let me find a video actually. Give me a minute.

[rich]

Eh? They look different to me...

You're right, Roseangelo...the cover does look different from what the normal Deluxe Edition was. I had forgotten about the cover of the Deluxe having a whiter background. Plus, if you read the description, it states that it's hand-numbered...hmmm. I missed that the first time around. That kind of changes things.

[Roseangelo]

Rich, there are a lot of components that make these books different, it's not just print run. I can definitely break down that down for you. Let me find a video actually. Give me a minute.

Rich is referring to the actual comic book hardcover itself, as he is strictly interested in collecting the different variations of the comics and not the stuff that comes with each package.

From what I can see, each set includes the same hardcover book with a black cover (making it different from the regular edition, which has a white cover).

[rich]

You scooped me Rich!

Rich, there are a lot of components that make these books different, it's not just print run. I can definitely break down that down for you. Let me find a video actually. Give me a minute.

Sorry to steal your thunder on this. Didn't mean to. :)

My main question is whether the three editions of these books themselves are different from one another (other than, of course, the numbering and what you get with them). In other words, what does the legal indicia state on the inside of these books? Are these 3 all the same or does it state "red label" or "black label" on the inside?

Thanks!

Rich is referring to the actual comic book hardcover itself, as he is strictly interested in collecting the different variations of the comics and not the stuff that comes with each package.


Roseangelo, you know me so well. :D

[natecm]

Sorry to steal your thunder on this. Didn't mean to. :)

My main question is whether the three editions of these books themselves are different from one another (other than, of course, the numbering and what you get with them). In other words, what does the legal indicia state on the inside of these books? Are these 3 all the same or does it state "red label" or "black label" on the inside?

Thanks!



Roseangelo, you know me so well. :D




Rich;

All the IDW Limited editions have the same enhancements: variant cover, vellum overlay of the title page, new endpages. Interior pages for all three lines are the same.

Each edition has a foil stamp denoting red/black/blue and a satin bookmark ribbon of the same color.

Here's a specs video for the blue book:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n31bexTa8Xw&feature=plcp

[rich]

Rich;

All the IDW Limited editions have the same enhancements: variant cover, vellum overlay of the title page, new endpages. Interior pages for all three lines are the same.

Each edition has a foil stamp denoting red/black/blue and a satin bookmark ribbon of the same color.

Here's a specs video for the blue book:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n31bexTa8Xw&feature=plcp

Thank you sir! This is valuable information. This definitely changes things (at least for me).

Let's see if I have this right. This is a Limited Edition version of the Deluxe Edition Hardcover book that is different than the previous Deluxe Edition. This Limited Edition has a print run of 210 that is split into 3 tiers: Red (175), Black (25), and Blue (10). The different tiers determine the items that are included with the book (and the numbering, signature / sketches).

[natecm]

Thank you sir! This is valuable information. This definitely changes things (at least for me).

Let's see if I have this right. This is a Limited Edition version of the Deluxe Edition Hardcover book that is different than the previous Deluxe Edition. This Limited Edition has a print run of 210 that is split into 3 tiers: Red (175), Black (25), and Blue (10). The different tiers determine the items that are included with the book (and the numbering, signature / sketches).



Yes. That is all correct.

[rich]

Yes. That is all correct.

Um...$19 shipping ? That's way excessive. And for GROUND shipping no less. That's kind of shameful.

[natecm]

Um...$19 shipping ? That's way excessive. And for GROUND shipping no less. That's kind of shameful.

Shipping's wired directly in from UPS with an app. We don't set pricing there. It just looks at weight & distance. Was that for one book?

[rich]

Shipping's wired directly in from UPS with an app. We don't set pricing there. It just looks at weight & distance. Was that for one book?

Yes, that's just for one book...across only 4 states...but whatcha gonna do, right? Got us by the...:ohwell:

[dkram230]

Thanks guys. Just placed an order for the set. Hopefully if I change my mind it will be easy enough to resell and get my monies back! :ohwell: I don't know what kind of market is out there for these.

[natecm]

Yes, that's just for one book...across only 4 states...but whatcha gonna do, right? Got us by the...:ohwell:

Eesh. Must be gas prices? Well Im'a make sure we pack yours with extra loving care. Hopefully that'll be worth a buck or two.

[natecm]

Thanks guys. Just placed an order for the set. Hopefully if I change my mind it will be easy enough to resell and get my monies back! :ohwell: I don't know what kind of market is out there for these.

What'd you get?

[Master Splinter]

Eesh. Must be gas prices? Well Im'a make sure we pack yours with extra loving care. Hopefully that'll be worth a buck or two.

You could draw a dragon eating a mailman on the box... That might suffice.

-ms

[rich]

Eesh. Must be gas prices? Well Im'a make sure we pack yours with extra loving care. Hopefully that'll be worth a buck or two.
Thanks! From the video it looks to be a sweet book. Can't wait to get it.

What'd you get?
Red Label

You could draw a dragon eating a mailman on the box... That might suffice.

-ms

LOL :lol:

[Toby Barrett]

HAHAHA! I don't think so. XD

[dkram230]

What'd you get?

I actually ordered 2 of each LOL. One full set to open and one to collect. :D

[natecm]

I actually ordered 2 of each LOL. One full set to open and one to collect. :D

Awesome!

Blue's are almost gone now. 3 left. Glad you got in there.

[CyberCubed]

These limited books seem like they're aimed at rich people. I am not a rich person.

[Coro]

Ugh...

350 for the book
20 for shipping is the minimum

I love me some original art.


Question....Of the 10 limited Blues will each art be different, or are all the Blues the same, all the reds the same, etc?

[rich]

I actually ordered 2 of each LOL. One full set to open and one to collect. :D

:o Two of each...red, black, and blue? :o Holy schnikes! Would you like to adopt me? :D

[Coro]

Welp...snatched up a Blue....

I am much like Rich in that I must have 1 copy of every comic, and I dabble in the action figure collecting....

Rich I will send you a scan of my art to your website like I did with my Matt Slay sketches if you like. I will be interested to see how these come out.

*edit I already have some buyers remorse. I hope these are amazing...

[dkram230]

Welp...snatched up a Blue....

I am much like Rich in that I must have 1 copy of every comic, and I dabble in the action figure collecting....

Rich I will send you a scan of my art to your website like I did with my Matt Slay sketches if you like. I will be interested to see how these come out.

Looks like you got the last one! Congrats.

[dkram230]

:o Two of each...red, black, and blue? :o Holy schnikes! Would you like to adopt me? :D

Do you mow lawns? LOL! I was late to the game for IDW TMNT collecting and am now scrambling to catch up. Funny thing is, I had no problem ordering these because they are at MSRP. Yet I refuse to pay $400 for the SDCC Ultimate exclusive set because the resale asking price is too high at a 100% markup!

[rich]

Welp...snatched up a Blue....

I am much like Rich in that I must have 1 copy of every comic, and I dabble in the action figure collecting....

Rich I will send you a scan of my art to your website like I did with my Matt Slay sketches if you like. I will be interested to see how these come out.

Love it! Please do Coro...would love to see these blue sketches. And I also dabble in the action figures... my poor wallet has been abused greatly as of late. :ohwell:

[Coro]

Looks like you got the last one! Congrats.

Looks that way. Here's hoping that all of the Blue labels have 10 DIFFERENT illustrations by Duncan....I like the one they show in the video, but it would kind of take away from the collection if its all 10 of the same splash

[Coro]

Love it! Please do Coro...would love to see these blue sketches. And I also dabble in the action figures... my poor wallet has been abused greatly as of late. :ohwell:

It is definitely hard to be a turtle Completionist lately....between all the action figures, TPB re-releases, hardcovers, special editions, and the over priced Jetpack variants, I probably drop 1-200 a month on Turtles. Sigh....my wife is gonna kill me :tlol:

[rich]

Do you mow lawns? LOL! I was late to the game for IDW TMNT collecting and am now scrambling to catch up. Funny thing is, I had no problem ordering these because they are at MSRP. Yet I refuse to pay $400 for the SDCC Ultimate exclusive set because the resale asking price is too high at a 100% markup!

I mow my own lawn. Will you pay me to do that? :D

I'm with you on hating to pay the high markup later...it's either "pay a lot now" or "pay a TON later." Plus, those SDCC Ultimates (the books themselves) were not any different than the B&W Ltd. Ed. Ultimates on IDWs site.

[HotJuicyBurgers]

Do you mow lawns? LOL! I was late to the game for IDW TMNT collecting and am now scrambling to catch up. Funny thing is, I had no problem ordering these because they are at MSRP. Yet I refuse to pay $400 for the SDCC Ultimate exclusive set because the resale asking price is too high at a 100% markup!

You just dropped (allegedly) 1500 dollars
Jeez.

[IamtheNorm]

It is definitely hard to be a turtle Completionist lately....between all the action figures, TPB re-releases, hardcovers, special editions, and the over priced Jetpack variants, I probably drop 1-200 a month on Turtles. Sigh....my wife is gonna kill me :tlol:

Dude I feel the same way.

[natecm]

Looks that way. Here's hoping that all of the Blue labels have 10 DIFFERENT illustrations by Duncan....I like the one they show in the video, but it would kind of take away from the collection if its all 10 of the same splash

Have no fear! Dan went way over the top with this project. We couldn't believe how awesome the final product was.

Here's him working on the sketches. There's plenty of variety.

EDIT: Alright, that pic's huge. Click the link and you can see it in excellent detail.

http://i.imgur.com/DSSS4.jpg

[rich]

It is definitely hard to be a turtle Completionist lately....between all the action figures, TPB re-releases, hardcovers, special editions, and the over priced Jetpack variants, I probably drop 1-200 a month on Turtles. Sigh....my wife is gonna kill me :tlol:

Agreed. My wife loves it when I spend $$ on the Turtles because she knows I can't say anything when she spends $$ on herself...it's a win/win. ;)

[Coro]

Thanks for the images! Those do look amazing! I don't see any group shots in there, but the red bandannas on the black images look pretty amazing! Makes me want to go back and buy a red label too. Any chance you wanna throw an extra red label in my box next to the Blue one I paid for? haha

[rich]

Somebody send me sizing directions please.

PM sent. :D

[pannoni1]

It is definitely hard to be a turtle Completionist lately....between all the action figures, TPB re-releases, hardcovers, special editions, and the over priced Jetpack variants, I probably drop 1-200 a month on Turtles. Sigh....my wife is gonna kill me :tlol:

Actually, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to be a true Turtle completionist. With the system IDW is proposing, this seems to be the Turtlemania for this series, though this is a much more questionable investment. I still try to diversify my spending, from vintage VOGUE magazines to game show tickets to an Action Comics #1 reprint. It seems like the past few years is sadly separating the wealthy fans from the more casual, down-to-earth fans and the fun of simply enjoying the new product is being taken out of in favor of snobbish consumerism. Please remember we're only human and that money can't buy love like the Beatles once sang. Buy this for LOVE and PASSION, not for cockiness and smart aleckness.

[natecm]

Thanks for the images! Those do look amazing! I don't see any group shots in there, but the red bandannas on the black images look pretty amazing! Makes me want to go back and buy a red label too. Any chance you wanna throw an extra red label in my box next to the Blue one I paid for? haha

Full turtles group shot is reserved for blue, so you got one of the chosen few. :)

[Powder]

Had I not successfully managed to be like, the one guy to get a Dan Duncan commission, I'd have jumped on this. But since I've already got my own badass piece, there's no incentive for me.

[Coro]

You know the worst part of this thing? If you watch the video for these, there is a giant number 1 at the top of the spine....

So...when is 2 coming out? I may need to budget for these if they keep coming haha

[zodach]

What exactly is a signature plate? I see the picture of it in the listing details, but I was wondering if it's made of thicker paper or some other material?

Also, are there different illustrations for the signature plates for each edition (ie - red, black, blue) or are there different illustrations for each set sold?

[IamtheNorm]

I ordered one of each of these earlier for my collection, it is difficult to keep up with everything that is coming out. However once I get my hands on a 1:50 number 1 then I should have just about everything the IDW has put out for the TMNT so far...and that does include three different versions of the Ultimate Collection 1,2, and 3.

[Archon_Turtle]

Unfortunately, Someone bought the last Blue label between the time I clicked order and checked out :-/ Sad Panda.

if someone who bought more than one blue wants to give one up, let me know. I bought a black.

[natecm]

What exactly is a signature plate? I see the picture of it in the listing details, but I was wondering if it's made of thicker paper or some other material?

Also, are there different illustrations for the signature plates for each edition (ie - red, black, blue) or are there different illustrations for each set sold?

The signature plate is slightly thicker, yes. 250-gsm.

Great question; YES. The signature plate is different for each line: red/black/blue, so that is one more difference to the interior of the book.

If you look at the videos on the product page, you can see the different signature plates when they open up the books.

[Archon_Turtle]

So...who thinks they are going to bleed us dry by putting these versions out for every trade?

[rich]

and that does include three different versions of the Ultimate Collection 1,2, and 3.

Three different versions is actually not true...although each collector looks at things differently and in their own way (which is cool). This is a gray area for sure.

Officially, there are only two versions of the Ultimate Collection: the Regular and the B&W Limited for each volume. The SDCC set uses the same B&W Limited books and they aren't different versions of the books themselves. They were just packaged in a slipcase all together.

This Deluxe Limited Edition of the Change Is Constant HC is actually a different book (printing) than the original and contains a couple new vellum pages and the cover is different.

So...who thinks they are going to bleed us dry by putting these versions out for every trade?

Me. (*hand raised*)

Unfortunately, Someone bought the last Blue label between the time I clicked order and checked out :-/ Sad Panda.

if someone who bought more than one blue wants to give one up, let me know. I bought a black.

Are you planning on getting all 3 of the sets? Just curious your thoughts for your collection. I'm only buying the RED since the books themselves are the same between the RED, BLACK, and BLUE.

[zodach]

The signature plate is slightly thicker, yes. 250-gsm.

Great question; YES. The signature plate is different for each line: red/black/blue, so that is one more difference to the interior of the book.

If you look at the videos on the product page, you can see the different signature plates when they open up the books.


Thank you for the answers! Just a couple more questions.

1) Are the signature plates attached to the binding of the book or are they removable?

2) Will we be seeing any TMNT portfolios or lithographs on IDW Limited? That is what I look forward to the most.

[Coro]

Unfortunately, Someone bought the last Blue label between the time I clicked order and checked out :-/ Sad Panda.

if someone who bought more than one blue wants to give one up, let me know. I bought a black.

It appears that I got the last Blue, but I had the checkout open for about 10 minutes....while I tried to think about the money involved. Ultimately I went ahead and made the purchase when I saw the sketches laid out in this thread.

[Roseangelo]

I had my finger on the buy button for the blue version this morning when Rich first posted the link. I put it in my shopping cart and everything. But then I realized that I pay about that much for 4 months of karate classes, and I'd much rather keep going with those right now than buy another edition of a book I already have. A little tempted to at least get the red version, but I dunno...

[Archon_Turtle]

It appears that I got the last Blue, but I had the checkout open for about 10 minutes....while I tried to think about the money involved. Ultimately I went ahead and made the purchase when I saw the sketches laid out in this thread.

Well let me know if you change your mind :-)

[Coro]

Well let me know if you change your mind :-)

Someone on here bought 2 of each one. Might want to PM him, since I am sure he bought 2 of each so he could resale 1 of each.

[Archon_Turtle]

Someone on here bought 2 of each one. Might want to PM him, since I am sure he bought 2 of each so he could resale 1 of each.

Well I'd like to see if I can find someone who simply has buyer's remorse before I willingly get scalped at a premium for being 30 seconds too late on the book. I'm also willing to trade OA to a collector for it, I'm not interested in trading OA to a reseller.

[Coro]

Well I'd like to see if I can find someone who simply has buyer's remorse before I willingly get scalped at a premium for being 30 seconds too late on the book. I'm also willing to trade OA to a collector for it, I'm not interested in trading OA to a reseller.

I wouldn't say I have buyers remorse, more like sticker shock. Hard to drop that kind of cash when I am taking my wife to Paris this year for our 10th anniversary....I will recover, but it seems like bad timing.

*edit: Out of curiosity what kind of OA do you have? Link?

[Archon_Turtle]

I wouldn't say I have buyers remorse, more like sticker shock. Hard to drop that kind of cash when I am taking my wife to Paris this year for our 10th anniversary....I will recover, but it seems like bad timing.

*edit: Out of curiosity what kind of OA do you have? Link?

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryDetail.asp?GCat=54209

Not all of it would be available for trade obviously (as some of it is worth many many many times the price of the book), but I'd be open for discussions.

[Redrumh2o]

Hmm...they will sell graded comics as well. Hopefully we get some Eastman sketches soon :D


Everyone that purchased the Red/Black/Blue books.....are you going to open them?

[rich]

I had my finger on the buy button for the blue version this morning when Rich first posted the link. I put it in my shopping cart and everything. But then I realized that I pay about that much for 4 months of karate classes, and I'd much rather keep going with those right now than buy another edition of a book I already have. A little tempted to at least get the red version, but I dunno...

Good reasoning...sounds like a wise choice. The RED gets you the book...the other stuff is just bonus material :eyemouth:

[Coro]

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryDetail.asp?GCat=54209

Not all of it would be available for trade obviously (as some of it is worth many many many times the price of the book), but I'd be open for discussions.

Nice collection! Out of curiosity where did you get your Crunchamugas claymation Mikey? That's awesome and I had never heard of them before. As far as a trade goes I think I will hold off, but I will keep it in mind, and appreciate the link.

[Archon_Turtle]

Good reasoning...sounds like a wise choice. The RED gets you the book...the other stuff is just bonus material :eyemouth:

Isn't the physical book different for each?

[rich]

Isn't the physical book different for each?

That depends...if you count the foil stamp and ribbon as "different" then I guess it is...however, I don't (at least not enough to shell out $725 for them all).

Here's the post (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1005733&postcount=9) about it.

[dkram230]

Hmm...they will sell graded comics as well. Hopefully we get some Eastman sketches soon :D


Everyone that purchased the Red/Black/Blue books.....are you going to open them?

I for sure plan on opening one of each. I do not own any original art so I am really excited to get these and frame them up. I was debating ordering a Jim Lawson commission, but this will keep me happy for now. As for the book itself, I will for sure admire it and page through it, but will stick to the actual comics for reading the stories in order to better preserve the volumes. Although, thanks to the $.99 sale last weekend on the first 10 IDW digital TMNT, I won't even have to pull my comics out of the bags to re-read the stories now. :)

[Coro]

That depends...if you count the foil stamp and ribbon as "different" then I guess it is...however, I don't (at least not enough to shell out $725 for them all).

Here's the post (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1005733&postcount=9) about it.

I mainly got the Blue because of the OA. I like the group shots, and that was right up my alley. The red sketches look pretty amazing though, and from what I can tell the Black had the best signature plate. I really like the Raph in the top left, and the Mikey in the top right of the sketches the representative posted.

[natecm]

Thank you for the answers! Just a couple more questions.

1) Are the signature plates attached to the binding of the book or are they removable?

2) Will we be seeing any TMNT portfolios or lithographs on IDW Limited? That is what I look forward to the most.




1) Signature plates are attached to the book.

2) That's definitely possible. We don't have it on the schedule, but we are actively looking for great products, and I know a TMNT artist's edition portfolio is something I would be excited for.

[Archon_Turtle]

Are you planning on getting all 3 of the sets? Just curious your thoughts for your collection. I'm only buying the RED since the books themselves are the same between the RED, BLACK, and BLUE.

depends on if I can get a blue copy for a reasonable price. I'm hoping I can trade one of these guys who bought the blue for the OA, for a much rarer piece of OA :)

[zodach]

I'm in for one red and one black label edition. I love the original art and I'm a sucker for the different slipcase/traycase and signature plate artwork. It's a bit much to drop $400 on these two after shipping, but I have lots to sell on ebay soon so the funds will be there. Hopefully I get Raph in one of my two sets :tsmile:

[dkram230]

I'm in for one red and one black label edition. I love the original art and I'm a sucker for the different slipcase/traycase and signature plate artwork. It's a bit much to drop $400 on these two after shipping, but I have lots to sell on ebay soon so the funds will be there. Hopefully I get Raph in one of my two sets :tsmile:

Me too! He should have just drawn all Raphs for the solo pieces. haha!!!

[Redrumh2o]

I impulsively purchased the red and the black, because of the OA. I might consider selling the physical books, or at least the black one, as I could really care less about it/them....depends on what I could get for them. I will hopefully frame the OA

To me I just paid $400 for 2 Duncan commissions, one with full color, and ill get some fancy books as a bonus.

[Coro]

...To me I just paid $400 for 2 Duncan commissions, one with full color, and ill get some fancy books as a bonus.

Right there with ya!

[Oculus Orbus]

I'm wondering if they'll planning to do something like that with the Classic Collections. Now that's something I could totally get behind.

[dkram230]

I'm wondering if they'll planning to do something like that with the Classic Collections. Now that's something I could totally get behind.

And they can have OA fron Kevin Eastman. That would be fantastic!

[Powder]

To me I just paid $400 for 2 Duncan commissions, one with full color, and ill get some fancy books as a bonus.

Would've been considerably cheaper had you just ACTUALLY commissioned him. Your call, though.

[Archon_Turtle]

I put together a post listing off some things I would be willing to trade for the Change is Constant Blue Label book.

Check it out! Thanks!

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1006126&postcount=2

[TheCanadiandrome]

Not sure if I want to get anything

[ninja pizza]

Agreed. My wife loves it when I spend $$ on the Turtles because she knows I can't say anything when she spends $$ on herself...it's a win/win. ;)

I know EXACTLY what you mean! lol

[zodach]

1) Signature plates are attached to the book.


Can you please confirm which statement is accurate regarding the signature plate? The interview with Eastman indicates the signature plate will be a separate piece not attached to the book. Thanks in advance.


http://idwlimited.com/news/eastman-idw-fan/


a limited edition signature plate that will be housed in a separate artist's portfolio accompanying each book



Also, it looks like all 25 black label sets have sold out.

[natecm]

Can you please confirm which statement is accurate regarding the signature plate? The interview with Eastman indicates the signature plate will be a separate piece not attached to the book. Thanks in advance.


http://idwlimited.com/news/eastman-idw-fan/




Yes the plates are confirmed bound in.That's some old copy. Dang :(

If you check the product vids you can see one:
@ 1:18:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=K7cI3TOXtK0

[zodach]

No problem, I was just curious. I would prefer something like that be a separate piece so I could frame it or display it on it's own. I understand that most sketch plates/signature plates are intended to be attached to the book though.

Congratulations by the way in selling out of the blue and black labels in one day. That seems pretty quick for such high dollar items.

[TheCanadiandrome]

those are great videos

[natecm]

No problem, I was just curious. I would prefer something like that be a separate piece so I could frame it or display it on it's own. I understand that most sketch plates/signature plates are intended to be attached to the book though.

Congratulations by the way in selling out of the blue and black labels in one day. That seems pretty quick for such high dollar items.

Thank you! Definitely an exciting launch. Just happy that it's selling and we get to plan more awesome stuff.

[Spitfire]

That book is not worth that price. I don't care how limited it is. This is just collector's bait.

[Jester]

That book is not worth that price. I don't care how limited it is. This is just collector's bait.
*DING DING DING DING* We have a winner!

[Archon_Turtle]

That book is not worth that price. I don't care how limited it is. This is just collector's bait.

To be fair, "worth" is entirely subjective. All collectibles are just paper, or plastic, or whatever. None of it is really worth anything.

[nelodiavolo]

I'm pretty sure its worth as much as someone is willing to pay. Its not just for a book. Original art is included as well. Call it whatever you want, but at least they are making something for the fans. Judging by the quick sellouts, it seems to be a hit.

As for myself....I may pick up a red label.

[actionnate]

I may also pick up a Red label ... I will admit the only 10 made on the blue label made me want to jump at it.... but by the time I heard about this it already sold out.... the only reason I haven't bought the Red label yet is because i am wondering if they are going to do Volume 2 or not if so might just wait because I already have a copy of volume 1

[TMNTChris1980]

Yeah, the way I look at it is it's about as much as a commission so why not?

[FoxZerro]

That book is not worth that price. I don't care how limited it is. This is just collector's bait.

I'm glad that somebody said it, after all the positive outpouring I was nervous I might be the only one that felt that way.

[frank_one]

That book is not worth that price. I don't care how limited it is. This is just collector's bait.
I'm glad that somebody said it, after all the positive outpouring I was nervous I might be the only one that felt that way.
Why does it hurt you? I'm not a collector either and I'm not going to pick this stuff up, but I know there are fans willing to have it and I'm glad to see IDW publishing all these variant covers and limited editions for them.
And yes, this is just "collector's bait" and sure, these books "are not worth that price" since if you are not a collector you'll be unlikely to buy all them and, like someone already said here, the meaning of "worth" sometimes is all about how much one is willing to pay. And this is a fact: all those variant covers have given us the chance to see a lot of new TMNT artworks, including the ones by our beloved Kevin Eastman.
As long as we are not forced to buy what we are not interested in we can just say Thank you to IDW to releasing all this stuff!

[natecm]

Fun day over here, doing inventory on the Dan Duncan artwork. He knocked it out of the park.

These are the Red Label sketchs. Good variety of poses throughout too!

http://i.imgur.com/yzk9z.jpg

[dkram230]

Fun day over here, doing inventory on the Dan Duncan artwork. He knocked it out of the park.

These are the Red Label sketchs. Good variety of poses throughout too!

http://i.imgur.com/yzk9z.jpg

The sketches look FANTASTIC! I can't wait to get mine :D

Thanks Nate. You're awesome!

[Powder]

Really nice, the perspectives on Raph & Leo are far too cool!

[FoxZerro]

Why does it hurt you? I'm not a collector either and I'm not going to pick this stuff up, but I know there are fans willing to have it and I'm glad to see IDW publishing all these variant covers and limited editions for them.
And yes, this is just "collector's bait" and sure, these books "are not worth that price" since if you are not a collector you'll be unlikely to buy all them and, like someone already said here, the meaning of "worth" sometimes is all about how much one is willing to pay. And this is a fact: all those variant covers have given us the chance to see a lot of new TMNT artworks, including the ones by our beloved Kevin Eastman.
As long as we are not forced to buy what we are not interested in we can just say Thank you to IDW to releasing all this stuff!

I'm not sure when I said it hurt me. I just think that it is collector bait, and I felt like I might be the only who felt that way. I was glad to see it wasn't just me. Fact is I am a firm believer that the comic boom that happened a few years ago won't ever be repeated. Since the days when a copy of Amazing Fantasy 15 first sold for thousand and thousands of dollars comics have become something that people collect with the hope that they will be in possession of the next Amazing Fantasy #15 come 2047. Unfortunately this has people buying a lot more comics and thus comics are now printed in far greater quantities. Which means that they have to come up with a way to still make it enticing to collector's to go out and buy comic books that is where rare variant covers come into play. Unfortunately that means that collectors are now shaping the industry and they have to play these little games in order to still entice them to buy.

I'll cite your argument that it has allowed a lot of great artwork to come to light. What good is great artwork if you have to be one of a chosen few to actually see it. Wouldn't it be better if the only cover to each turtle book was the Kevin Eastman print. Then anyone who bought it casual or collector would be exposed to it. Also in an effort to actually make money on these variant covers Comic Shops end up charging more for them upfront which seems odd considering the fact that I am holding it in my hands new on day one and having to pay more than the cover price.

I'm sorry that I don't necessarily agree with this practice, but I'm not upset about it, I don't demonize those that are willing and able to spend the money in order to own these treasure. However, where I do take offense is that I always believed that comic books were meant to be read and more and more I see people just buying them to buy them and not read them. When there are people who are buying two copies of these sets one not to read, that upsets me, because that is one less that will be sold to someone who might have actually been buying it not just to have it but to read it. At that point I'd prefer they just sell the original artwork without the book that I can justify the price on because that is something truly unique and not just a reprinted book with a different cover and a foil star.

[Lampy]

Fun day over here, doing inventory on the Dan Duncan artwork. He knocked it out of the park.

These are the Red Label sketchs. Good variety of poses throughout too!

http://i.imgur.com/yzk9z.jpg

That raph sketch looks familiar. :D:D not so unique Duncan, you sly fox you. They look great though.

As for the collector's bait comment. While I'm tempted to get a copy... I don't feel it has enough additional material... not enough incentive for me to pick it up. I personally think that if the blue label was so pricey... the cover shouldve been unique from the other two. Not only would it attract more collectors.... it'll be worth every penny if there were only ten blue label books ever printed with this unique cover. Add a little rarity and prestige. Would've been cool and I would've picked one up. If the only thing that sets these books apart is the bookmark and the sketch that came with it... then I don't think it's worth it. Plus.. not really a fan of reused covers

Still cool though.

[actionnate]

That raph sketch looks familiar. :D:D not so unique Duncan, you sly fox you. They look great though.

As for the collector's bait comment. While I'm tempted to get a copy... I don't feel it has enough additional material... not enough incentive for me to pick it up. I personally think that if the blue label was so pricey... the cover shouldve been unique from the other two. Not only would it attract more collectors.... it'll be worth every penny if there were only ten blue label books ever printed with this unique cover. Add a little rarity and prestige. Would've been cool and I would've picked one up. If the only thing that sets these books apart is the bookmark and the sketch that came with it... then I don't think it's worth it. Plus.. not really a fan of reused covers

Still cool though.

I'll put it this way.... if I didn't have a list a mile long of 1988 TMNT figures and vehicles I'd jump on it.... If I had not just bought VOL 1 hardcover at a CON I'd jump on it.... if I wasn't a few issues away from a complete mirage run ... I'd jump on it.... but for now seems low on the totum pole :tgrin:

[Lampy]

same here... I wouldve preferred unique covers. All im saying.

[actionnate]

same here... I wouldve preferred unique covers. All im saying.

agree 100%

[frank_one]

@FoxZerro
I can see what you are talking about and I agree. A collector-based system totally sucks, this shouldn't just happen. Comics should be more about good stories and drawings than just collectible objects, I'm 100% with you on this. But you know what, we live in this weird world and this is just a part of it. I try to be positive and take the good part of the deal while I ignore the rest.

Wouldn't it be better if the only cover to each turtle book was the Kevin Eastman print.
I would prefer it to be the more common one so I would be able to easily find one sometimes but at least I can see Eastman's artwork on my screen. I can own one cover only (well, actually I COULD buy all the variant covers but I'm not interested in buying the same issue more than once just because of the different cover) but I can appreciate all of them and if I really like a cover that I wasn't able to find I can get it printed by a local shop, why not?
However, there's something that I'm not liking about IDW's variant covers: there are too many of them! I think this could somehow harm the "identity" of the single issue. Usually the variants are made for special issues on special occasions, having them for ALL the issues could bring to some kind of identity crisis.. This is my only complaint, my only.. worry.
For all the rest I'm with you FoxZerro, you are not alone. I'm just trying to remain positive and take only the good part.

[nelodiavolo]

Were the Blue and Black labels limited to just one per person? It would make sense to put a limit so more fans could get a crack at it.

I do have to say that the red label art looks fantastic! The red really stands out.

[natecm]

Were the Blue and Black labels limited to just one per person? It would make sense to put a limit so more fans could get a crack at it.

I do have to say that the red label art looks fantastic! The red really stands out.

We didn't limit black or blue at launch, but probably will going forward.

Thankfully, no one ordered more than 2 this round, and I think 2 is fair. But we've got some stuff in the pipeline that's probably going to be limited to one per person. There's a FIVE copy (non-tmnt)blue label coming out soon!

I'd hate to have one person snap up every copy in an attempt to control the market.

The red's are so awesome. Dan did a huge number of poses for each turtle too, so it's not just one sketch a bunch of times. I'll probably post a few more angles when I get back into the office Monday. The Mikey cityscape is one of my favorites. I posted it on facebook, if not on here.

[OA]

WOW...I am so happy I stopped collecting tmnt comics when the IDW run started. I'd be LOSING MY MIND, since as a completionist, I'd have to have one of each of these (no matter the "realities" if they are "really" different from each other). Fortunately, I'm content with digital material regarding this run and can put my time and resources into original art. Because between this and all those variant covers for the regular run...sheesh.

It was honestly hard enough to get all versions from the original run (printings, appearances, etc.) Getting a Gold Turtlemania, one of a ten print run, took a collecting lifetime to achieve and finally completed my run. But now print runs of 10 seem like they might be the norm. I have no idea how you all can stomach this. I mean, its one thing to chase after an error cover printing or something non-intentional, maybe a special collected book every now and again. But what's been going here since the inception...but I guess this is what they call fan/collector service nowadays. Maybe I'm just an old fogey...!

All of that said, those of you who are taking on this herculean task, I salute you! We collectors come in a million shapes and sizes, with a million difference focuses, and the way I see it, if you are plowing your cash into Reds, Blacks, & Blues, then hopefully that means a little less cash out there for those things I do enjoy purchasing. :)

[natecm]

Just looked through Dan's art on the Red Label books and it turns out he did a small handful of non-Turtles for the book.

Here's one of the two Shredders he did. Thought it was pretty cool. Somebody's getting a super rare Red.

http://i.imgur.com/vmK41.jpg

[Powder]

Very cool indeed.

[dkram230]

Just looked through Dan's art on the Red Label books and it turns out he did a small handful of non-Turtles for the book.

Here's one of the two Shredders he did. Thought it was pretty cool. Somebody's getting a super rare Red.

http://i.imgur.com/vmK41.jpg

That is so cool!!!!

[natecm]

That is so cool!!!!

Looks like out of 175, he did a total of 6 drawings that aren't a turtle.

That makes some of the red books super rare. The issue is, will people be excited or disappointed to get a non-turtle?

[Powder]

I wonder if he did a Casey Jones...

If I had purchased one and got a non-turtle, I think at first I would disappointed, but it wouldn't take long for me to realize how rare and special my piece is. & then I'd cherish it more than anything! If you bump into Dan at a con, he might do a turtle sketch for you, but I doubt he'd do a secondary character. So those are very unique works that I'm sure will please their owners.

[natecm]

I wonder if he did a Casey Jones...

If I had purchased one and got a non-turtle, I think at first I would disappointed, but it wouldn't take long for me to realize how rare and special my piece is. & then I'd cherish it more than anything! If you bump into Dan at a con, he might do a turtle sketch for you, but I doubt he'd do a secondary character. So those are very unique works that I'm sure will please their owners.

He did 3 of Casey Jones
2 of Shredder
1 of Splinter

Other than that he did a pretty even distribution of the Turtles, and he did a great job of mixing up what poses he drew. Just a great book overall, can't wait to ship these things.

[zodach]

Have any of these started shipping yet? The blue labels were supposed to ship on Tuesday, so I'm curious if anyone has gotten a shipping notice. I can't wait to see what original art everyone got.

[Metropoliskid41]

I think my wife is going to snag me a Red Copy for Christmas, I'm really hoping I get a Raph sketch. These things are gorgeous, I can't wait to hold one in my hands. I hope their popularity is enough to keep these chugging out for each arc. I would love to see at least volume feature sketches from Kevin, and I'm already looking forward to way down the road of ownin a collected edition with art from Bates.

[Mintyfresh]

Just read on there site that the blue and black labels are being shipped out this morning.:tgrin:

[dkram230]

Just read on there site that the blue and black labels are being shipped out this morning.:tgrin:

I got an email from IDW Limited earlier this afternoon that the blue label shipped today. No word on black yet.

[natecm]

I got an email from IDW Limited earlier this afternoon that the blue label shipped today. No word on black yet.

The first 10 of black and blue should make it out the door today minimum, though I would hope ALL Black and Blue ship.


In other fun news, anyone going to Comic Con in Austin?

We're going to have a Red Label book on display there. It'll be the first time anyone can see it in person.

The cool thing is: That book is NOT coming back to IDW. As long as the convention works w/ me to set it up we're going to give it away there. So someone at the Con is going to have a Red Label book two weeks before any ship out.

[Metropoliskid41]

Wow that's gonna be one lucky Turtle fan! I'll probably be one of the last ones to get to look at my Red Label, my wife ordered me one this afternoon but won't let me look at it until Christmas :P

Natecm,

I know it might be too early to tell just yet, but obviously these things have been very well received by the fandom, and I would guess they even exceed IDW's expectations with the Blue & Black Labels selling out so fast. Can we count on every collected edition for the foreseeable future being offered in these 3 formats? It'd be great to continue to release each set like this, I'd love to have a whole shelf of TMNT hardcovers packed with extras between the Red Labels and Ultimate Editions. And it'd be great to collect the great original art from every artist who tackles the Turtles in this series. I would love an edition that came with an Eastman sketch, and looking way ahead, a Bates sketch. I know it is probably too early to confirm yes for all arcs, but is it at probable that we'll be seeing a fair chunk of the TMNT Ongoing series being collected & released in this format down the road? And if so any idea on timeline? 1 every 6 months? 1 every quarter?

Thanks

[natecm]

Wow that's gonna be one lucky Turtle fan! I'll probably be one of the last ones to get to look at my Red Label, my wife ordered me one this afternoon but won't let me look at it until Christmas :P

Natecm,

I know it might be too early to tell just yet, but obviously these things have been very well received by the fandom, and I would guess they even exceed IDW's expectations with the Blue & Black Labels selling out so fast. Can we count on every collected edition for the foreseeable future being offered in these 3 formats? It'd be great to continue to release each set like this, I'd love to have a whole shelf of TMNT hardcovers packed with extras between the Red Labels and Ultimate Editions. And it'd be great to collect the great original art from every artist who tackles the Turtles in this series. I would love an edition that came with an Eastman sketch, and looking way ahead, a Bates sketch. I know it is probably too early to confirm yes for all arcs, but is it at probable that we'll be seeing a fair chunk of the TMNT Ongoing series being collected & released in this format down the road? And if so any idea on timeline? 1 every 6 months? 1 every quarter?

Thanks



Response has definitely been positive and that's great. Continuing momentum and growth is important.

We didn't do Volume 1 without hoping to continue the series. Ideally every quarter sounds about right. But it's probably going to take us time to get up to that speed so it could be six months for a while.

[Metropoliskid41]

Awesome thank you! That sounds great and reasonably affordable to save up and get a Red Label every 4-6 months. Thanks!

[Archon_Turtle]

Response has definitely been positive and that's great. Continuing momentum and growth is important.

We didn't do Volume 1 without hoping to continue the series. Ideally every quarter sounds about right. But it's probably going to take us time to get up to that speed so it could be six months for a while.

Are you talking a triple release every quarter?

[natecm]

Are you talking a triple release every quarter?

As in red/black/blue? With the deluxe hardcovers we'll try and offer at least two tiers with most books. With this turtle line, hopefully three to stay consistant.

[Redrumh2o]

Anyone with the Duncan OA pics yet?

[Spitfire]

Why does it hurt you? I'm not a collector either and I'm not going to pick this stuff up, but I know there are fans willing to have it and I'm glad to see IDW publishing all these variant covers and limited editions for them.
And yes, this is just "collector's bait" and sure, these books "are not worth that price" since if you are not a collector you'll be unlikely to buy all them and, like someone already said here, the meaning of "worth" sometimes is all about how much one is willing to pay. And this is a fact: all those variant covers have given us the chance to see a lot of new TMNT artworks, including the ones by our beloved Kevin Eastman.
As long as we are not forced to buy what we are not interested in we can just say Thank you to IDW to releasing all this stuff!

I see it as a waste of resources. I'd rather see them put time and money into releasing more collections of Mirage and Archie material. Want to service devoted fans service them with some stuff we've been waiting decades for. I'd gladly pay 300 dollars for a HC collection of Forever War. IDW really wants some brownie points lets see them finish that off.

[zodach]

I have a black label set scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Has anyone else received their blue or black label yet? I'm curious to see who got what original art.

[Coro]

I have a black label set scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Has anyone else received their blue or black label yet? I'm curious to see who got what original art.

My Blue should also show up tomorrow. Can't wait to see what I got...

[natecm]

Jeez, I'm almost as excited for your books to arrive as you are. These things are so frigging cool.

Hopefully you guys post pics. I'd love to be able to share them on the idwlimited facebook if that's okay.

[Redrumh2o]

Lets see them!

I will hopefully have my hands on mine this weekend!

[Coro]

Just unboxed my Blue label. Pics incoming...
(please forgive the cell phone camera)

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0222.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0223.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0226.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0227.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0228.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0229.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0230.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0231.jpg


More pics to follow...

:trazz:

[Coro]

Here you have it- All the meat and potatoes of the Blue label #8 of 10...
(please forgive the cell phone camera)
:tsmile::tsmile:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0234.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0232.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0233.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0235.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii44/chad_orourke/IMG_0237.jpg

[Coro]

Quick Review:

The box it was shipped in was well protected as you would expect from the costs associated with it. I went straight for the book inside for the signature plate. The book is awesome and is embossed in several locations. Overall happy with the book.

The main reason I bought a Blue label though...the Duncan art. I was VERY pleased to get a representation of the #1 covers spread across the page. 1 tiny nit pick here is that the case that holds the art is very tight around the paper. If you don't close it properly it could bend the left edge of the art. Rest of the box was pretty good as well, but the art makes it worth it for me.

Thanks Dan and everyone else involved!

[Redrumh2o]

Awesome art! As soon as I saw it I noticed they were in the #1 poses.....very awesome!

[rich]

WOW...I am so happy I stopped collecting tmnt comics when the IDW run started. I'd be LOSING MY MIND, since as a completionist, I'd have to have one of each of these (no matter the "realities" if they are "really" different from each other). Fortunately, I'm content with digital material regarding this run and can put my time and resources into original art. Because between this and all those variant covers for the regular run...sheesh.

It was honestly hard enough to get all versions from the original run (printings, appearances, etc.) Getting a Gold Turtlemania, one of a ten print run, took a collecting lifetime to achieve and finally completed my run. But now print runs of 10 seem like they might be the norm. I have no idea how you all can stomach this. I mean, its one thing to chase after an error cover printing or something non-intentional, maybe a special collected book every now and again. But what's been going here since the inception...but I guess this is what they call fan/collector service nowadays. Maybe I'm just an old fogey...!

All of that said, those of you who are taking on this herculean task, I salute you! We collectors come in a million shapes and sizes, with a million difference focuses, and the way I see it, if you are plowing your cash into Reds, Blacks, & Blues, then hopefully that means a little less cash out there for those things I do enjoy purchasing. :)

Was re-reading some of this thread and saw this post. Great post and great insights...not sure how I missed it the first time.

Like you, I've been a TMNT completist (completionist) for years. While I haven't stopped with the new IDW stuff, as of this Limited Edition book I've come to the realization that it's just no longer financially responsible or wise for me personally to continue seeking every TMNT variant with all that IDW is putting out. So, for this book I decided to just purchase a Red edition.

Now, add to this that IDW plans to do this "Red, Black, Blue" edition for more and then today's release of two $100/each Jetpack TMNT Annual variants...it's truly now impossible for me to keep up financially. So, I'll keep collecting what I can but it's a sad day to realize you just can't continue as desired with a lifelong hobby. :(

[Redrumh2o]

Anyone else?

[zodach]

I just unpacked black label #8 when I got home tonight. This is a very impressive set in hand and the Duncan art is awesome! Click the spoiler tag below to see some pics. And natecm, feel free to post these on the IDW Limited Facebook page if you want.


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/TMNT/IMG_0302.jpg


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/TMNT/IMG_0306.jpg


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/TMNT/IMG_0308.jpg


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/TMNT/IMG_0310.jpg

[Metropoliskid41]

WOW THOSE LOOK FANTASTIC!!! I can't wait to see my Red Edition!

Great OA pieces from Dan, very cool team piece of the Turtles in the #1 Poses you have there Coro!

Both of those have great scenes chosen for the Signature Plate. Those really are gorgeous collections.

[TheCanadiandrome]

God damn! Ok so i kinda regret not gettin one now

[rich]

Here you have it- All the meat and potatoes of the Blue label #8 of 10...

I just unpacked black label #8 when I got home tonight.

These are beautiful books. Nice pickup !! Thanks for sharing the pics.

[natecm]

I just unpacked black label #8 when I got home tonight. This is a very impressive set in hand and the Duncan art is awesome! Click the spoiler tag below to see some pics. And natecm, feel free to post these on the IDW Limited Facebook page if you want.


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/TMNT/IMG_0302.jpg


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/TMNT/IMG_0306.jpg


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/TMNT/IMG_0308.jpg


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/TMNT/IMG_0310.jpg

Glad you're happy, and thank you we'd love to share your pics.

[natecm]

WOW THOSE LOOK FANTASTIC!!! I can't wait to see my Red Edition!

Great OA pieces from Dan, very cool team piece of the Turtles in the #1 Poses you have there Coro!

Both of those have great scenes chosen for the Signature Plate. Those really are gorgeous collections.

Red Label's shipping very soon. It's awesome. Very happy with the spot color pieces Dan Duncan did for those and it's a very nice slip case.

[OA]

Now, add to this that IDW plans to do this "Red, Black, Blue" edition for more and then today's release of two $100/each Jetpack TMNT Annual variants...it's truly now impossible for me to keep up financially. So, I'll keep collecting what I can but it's a sad day to realize you just can't continue as desired with a lifelong hobby. :(

Yep, that's really what irks me most about this: this is targeted at collectors (since most "casual" fans wouldn't buy a book that they already have a collected version of, esp. at these prices). Is it really fan-service to put out something that is virtually identical to what is already out there (minus some vellum, foil, etc.) at such a high price? And 3 versions? And with the hope to potentially release these $700 triple sets quarterly?! Yes, I get that there is some Duncan art in there, at a price that would be probably be lower than if you commisioned him directly. That said, you have NO input in what kind of art you'd be getting (in this package) so I think that washes out price differences.

IMO, its a complete money grab. Which is fine since they are a business and the point is to grab as much money as possible. And nobody is forced to buy. I'm just speaking as a lowly completionist, and what IDW has been doing from the getgo is an absolute nightmare with all these variants, jetpacks, etc.(isn't there something like 10 different covers for issue #1 alone?) And since I feel that sets like these are probably targeted at completionists, and since in this thread alone a number of people who are a bit miffed are also completeionists, I think its a valid point to bring up.

But if everybody keeps buying everything they put out, what incentive is there on their part to change?

[Metropoliskid41]

Unfortunately I'll have to wait until Christmas to open & see my red edition :P


I'm just speaking as a lowly completionist, and what IDW has been doing from the getgo is an absolute nightmare with all these variants, jetpacks, etc.(isn't there something like 10 different covers for issue #1 alone?)


18 different version of #1, but who's counting?:trazz:

See them on all on Rich's site here:
http://www.tmnt-ninjaturtles.com/blog/2011/07/tmnt-1-idw-variant-covers/

[FoxZerro]

Now, add to this that IDW plans to do this "Red, Black, Blue" edition for more and then today's release of two $100/each Jetpack TMNT Annual variants...it's truly now impossible for me to keep up financially. So, I'll keep collecting what I can but it's a sad day to realize you just can't continue as desired with a lifelong hobby. :(

What are these $100 variants you speak of... which covers are they/where can I see them?

[rich]

isn't there something like 10 different covers for issue #1 alone?)

18 covers (http://www.tmnt-ninjaturtles.com/blog/2011/07/tmnt-1-idw-variant-covers/)...counting all the specials and ashcan editions. :ohwell:

But if everybody keeps buying everything they put out, what incentive is there on their part to change?

Exactly Danny. Which is why I just can't justify keeping up with everything IDW puts out. I was really upset when IDW released Vol. 1-3 of the Ultimate Collections for pickup ONLY at SDCC this year (no shipping). When something like that then turns up on eBay all over the place for $500+...that's just maddening.

So, I'll do my best to keep up with the comic book part but many of these limited-special-ultra-mega-rare collected editions are just now out of my collecting scope. I know this type of stuff is just the progression of where the comic book business is headed and it's about money (which I can't blame them for...that's why they're in the business). So, instead of getting upset I just have to adapt how and what I collect now. I still enjoy collecting and always will. Everyone's collection is unique and that's what makes it so great to interface with all of you...seeing what everyone collects and has is really fun.

What are these $100 variants you speak of... which covers are they/where can I see them?

I have the covers here (http://www.tmnt-ninjaturtles.com/blog/2012/07/tmnt-annual-2012-idw/) on my site. Go to ebay here (http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ipg=50&_osacat=0&_armrs=1&_ssn=cesradjr&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313&_nkw=ninja+turtle&_sacat=0&_from=R40) to see the prices.

[natecm]

Coro,

Your pictures are now an official IDW Publishing tumblr gallery. We're all very excited to see the books in your collection.

http://tumblr.idwpublishing.com/post/34770470535/tmntunboxing


Zodach,

I'm going to post your stuff on the IDWLimited facebook page today or tomorrow.

[lilmotto]

I got a cool piece with Raph and Old Hob for my Black edition!

[OA]

18 different version of #1, but who's counting?:trazz:

Goodness gracious....! :o

I just have to adapt how and what I collect now. I still enjoy collecting and always will.

That's exactly it. I've made the adjustment a couple years back. Archon sounds like he's starting to make moves. It sucks that it's sort of a forced evolution but dems the times I guess!

[Mintyfresh]

Just received my black label and I'm very impressed. Here's a crappy cellphone pic of the OA.http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj514/eli507/IMAG0282.jpg Can someone tell me how to get the spoiler button for my pic. Thanks

[Coro]

Just received my black label and I'm very impressed. Here's a crappy cellphone pic of the OA. Can someone tell me how to get the spoiler button for my pic. Thanks


Look at you IMG tags...do the same thing except IMG put the words SPOILER. Dont for get the [SPOILER] starts the image and [./SPOILER] closes it. (remember to remove the ".")

[dripgutz24]

Just received my black label book in the mail, I couldn't be more happier with the Duncan art it is AWESOME!!!
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u135/dripgutz24/IMG_0141.jpghttp://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u135/dripgutz24/IMG_0140.jpghttp://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u135/dripgutz24/IMG_0139.jpghttp://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u135/dripgutz24/IMG_0142.jpg

[Redrumh2o]

WOW...they all look great so far! I can't wait to see mine this weekend!

[lilmotto]

Raph and Old Hob

[Archon_Turtle]

Blue #10
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/JNCOPosterboy/The%20Collection/Art/BLUE10.jpg

Black #10
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/JNCOPosterboy/The%20Collection/Art/Black10.jpg

[Redrumh2o]

Wow....you must be stoked with those!

[Metropoliskid41]

Those are incredible, Dan's an amazing colorist and artist. Fantastic pieces to add to your collection, congrats!

[Redrumh2o]

Too bad no one will ever see those 2 in person :D

[TheCanadiandrome]

damn dudes! congrats on those

[Powder]

Awesome pieces all over the place! Of what I've seen I like the Leo/Shredder piece best, with the Raph/Foot in second place.

[rich]

...and the profiteering (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEENAGE-MUTANT-NINJA-TURTLES-TMNT-VOL-1-CHANGE-IS-CONSTANT-BLACK-LABEL-24-25-IDW-/150938830960?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123) begins. :ohwell:

[junkboy]

awesome pieces.
gratz guys.
guess i will have to be content with my individual issues, Deluxe HC and TPB Vol.1 :)

[natecm]

...and the profiteering (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEENAGE-MUTANT-NINJA-TURTLES-TMNT-VOL-1-CHANGE-IS-CONSTANT-BLACK-LABEL-24-25-IDW-/150938830960?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123) begins. :ohwell:

Was wondering who'd be the first one to do it. Thanks for keeping an eye out, Rich.

[rich]

Was wondering who'd be the first one to do it. Thanks for keeping an eye out, Rich.

Did the winner of the prize pack get announced?

[Coro]

...and the profiteering (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEENAGE-MUTANT-NINJA-TURTLES-TMNT-VOL-1-CHANGE-IS-CONSTANT-BLACK-LABEL-24-25-IDW-/150938830960?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123) begins. :ohwell:

What the heck...why buy something like this if you are just going to sell it off?

Here I am trying to buy a frame for my OA and I see that posted...:tgrumble:
Didn't take long

[natecm]

Did the winner of the prize pack get announced?

Just announced Facebook winner, we'll announce the newsletter winner next week.

We also added a new contest to the site for this month. You can click offers on the facebook page, or see the widget on idwlimited.com. Went crazy on how much stuff's in it. You can enter a bunch of different ways: tweeting/sharing/following/liking. So even if you already like us you'll get a chance to enter.

[rich]

Just announced Facebook winner, we'll announce the newsletter winner next week.

We also added a new contest to the site for this month. You can click offers on the facebook page, or see the widget on idwlimited.com. Went crazy on how much stuff's in it. You can enter a bunch of different ways: tweeting/sharing/following/liking. So even if you already like us you'll get a chance to enter.

Um, you got my name wrong...it's Rich, not Patrick :D

Thanks man! Congrats Patrick...whoever you are. Lucky! (*in a Napoleon Dynamite voice*)

[IamtheNorm]

Black #7
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g470/IamtheNorm/BLACK7.jpg

Blue #7
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g470/IamtheNorm/Blue7.jpg

[lilmotto]

Black #7
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g470/IamtheNorm/BLACK7.jpg


Apparently there are some redos for the sketches since I got this one :/

[IamtheNorm]

Apparently there are some redos for the sketches since I got this one :/

Yeah I saw that it's a bit of a bummer, however it is a cool piece.

[Mintyfresh]

I would like to frame my sketch and I'm having trouble finding one locally for this size. If anyone can recommend a nice frame online could you please let me know. Thanks

[lilmotto]

Yeah I saw that it's a bit of a bummer, however it is a cool piece.

I noticed you're from Ohio. Me 2! Maybe they just wanted to keep that cool piece in the heart of it all :)

[IamtheNorm]

I noticed your from Ohio. Me 2! Maybe they just wanted to keep that cool piece in the heart of it all :)

I can get behind that idea :tcool:

[Coro]

I would like to frame my sketch and I'm having trouble finding one locally for this size. If anyone can recommend a nice frame online could you please let me know. Thanks

Same here...I am struggling to find something.

[Roseangelo]

Same here...I am struggling to find something.

I don't have one of these, so I don't know exactly what size they are. But if it doesn't fit a standard-sized frame, I'd just go to a frame shop and get a mat custom cut for it, which then could fit in a standard frame.

Or, center it in a clip frame, like this (http://www.aaronbrothers.com/products/euro-clip).

One of my favorite framing-on-the-cheap methods is a mat inside a clip frame. Or, find a nice piece of paper from the scrapbooking section and put that behind the art.

[Redrumh2o]

Here is mine, 2/25. I could not be more happy with this!!

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee257/redrumh2o/2012-11-03_12-31-37_608.jpg

I have decided to sell the book though, it will be on eBay tonight. I came to my senses and realized that I just don't need to have the book, I only really wanted the art.

[natecm]

I was hoping black #2 would get posted. Freaking love that art.

Also, whenever you guys find a framing solution you like, can someone e-mail details?

[Redrumh2o]

When I frame I use www.documounts.com to get a custom size archival mat and UV resistant acrylic to prevent fading. I usually just buy a frame at Michaels using their 40% off coupons. I have not found a better/cheaper way to get a custom archival/safe setup

[Powder]

That is such an awesome piece, redrum. Had I gone for this, I'd be parting with the book, too. The art is the selling point.

[TheCanadiandrome]

That's cool redrum

[natecm]

When I frame I use www.documounts.com to get a custom size archival mat and UV resistant acrylic to prevent fading. I usually just buy a frame at Michaels using their 40% off coupons. I have not found a better/cheaper way to get a custom archival/safe setup

Thanks Redrum!

[Coro]

That is such an awesome piece, redrum. Had I gone for this, I'd be parting with the book, too. The art is the selling point.

I figure I will keep this book and sell all the other copies of change is constant that I have. TPB and HC

[FoxZerro]

When I frame I use www.documounts.com to get a custom size archival mat and UV resistant acrylic to prevent fading. I usually just buy a frame at Michaels using their 40% off coupons. I have not found a better/cheaper way to get a custom archival/safe setup

Thanks for sharing documounts too bad they closed in October :tcry: Any information you could share on the mat and UV resitant acrylic so we may be able to find similar product in other stores?

[Redrumh2o]

Thanks for sharing documounts too bad they closed in October :tcry: Any information you could share on the mat and UV resitant acrylic so we may be able to find similar product in other stores?

OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They were the best!!!

After spending a little time searching tonight, this seems to be a good place for custom matting. http://www.framesbymail.com/
It is a little more expensive that documounts, but looks to be decent compared to framing stores. I always recommend you go with the conservation grade when it comes to matting so it does not harm the art in any way since it will be pressed up against it for years and years.

[natecm]

We've added a review section to the product pages. Visible just below the images. Feel free to leave your glowing feedback there :trazz:

Always interested to hear what you think first hand too. So if you have any thoughts on limited that you'd like passed on up the ladder you can dm me.

[zodach]

natecm - Will the red label sets start shipping out today?

[natecm]

natecm - Will the red label sets start shipping out today?

I'm sorry, Zodach. We're going to miss getting the books out today by the skin of our teeth.


Shipping for the Red Label Change is Constant will begin tomorrow morning.

[zodach]

That's no big deal, I just wanted to know when I should expect it. I can't wait to see the Duncan original art that's coming with these sets.

[natecm]

Ok, red label's officially starting to ship today. Very excited to get these books to you, can't wait for you to see them.

Hopefully the red label art will make its way to this thread. Duncan did roughly ten different poses for each for the turtles so there's good variety, and if any of you guys get a non-turtle character, remember, that's a super-rarity (6 in 175 chance)

[TheCanadiandrome]

so will these be made available again?

[rich]

so will these be made available again?

The Red Label edition is still available on IDW Limited (http://idwlimited.com/books/tmntv1-deluxe-red.html).

[Redrumh2o]

Mine just shipped!!! Can't wait to see everyone's OA pics!!!

[dkram230]

Here is my Blue Label artwork for book #4. Amazing!

[natecm]

Here is my Blue Label artwork for book #4. Amazing!

Love it! I could use some collection shots on the facebook, so whenever you get the red in, if you're putting these in a special spot, let's see it please.

[TheCanadiandrome]

The Red Label edition is still available on IDW Limited (http://idwlimited.com/books/tmntv1-deluxe-red.html).

Cool, but what about the others?

[rich]

Cool, but what about the others?

The BLUE and BLACK Labels are sold out. I'm sure they won't be releasing additional BLUE or BLACK (or RED - once sold out) since they are all numbered. I believe they do have plans to do the same BLUE, BLACK, and RED Labels for future TMNT Ltd. Edition books.

[TheCanadiandrome]

The BLUE and BLACK Labels are sold out. I'm sure they won't be releasing additional BLUE or BLACK (or RED - once sold out) since they are all numbered. I believe they do have plans to do the same BLUE, BLACK, and RED Labels for future TMNT Ltd. Edition books.
Ok cool! Ty for the info

[dkram230]

Love it! I could use some collection shots on the facebook, so whenever you get the red in, if you're putting these in a special spot, let's see it please.

Will do Nate- Ill let you know when I have a pic of the trilogy together. Cant wait for that red label. Still working on frames though before I hang them all in their final resting place.

[Redrumh2o]

Anyone's Red coming in tomorrow?

[zodach]

Mine isn't coming until next Monday. It looks like it was shipped on Friday and will be delayed because of the holiday this week.

[Redrumh2o]

Hopefully some show up tomorrow....I am very anxious to see them!

[Archon_Turtle]

Bling bling!

[zodach]

That's awesome! I got mine yesterday and it's Raph who is my favorite Turtle. I will get some pictures posted later this week.

[mcauley]

Just got my Red Label delivered. Here is the Sketch. Not really sure which turtle it is...any guesses?
http://i48.tinypic.com/beetjc.jpg

[Jester]

It's Raph in the street cloths he wears before he's found by his brothers.

[lilmotto]

Those who ordered last time check your emails.

[zodach]

Here's my red label set that arrived on Monday (click the thumbnails for larger images). I am so glad I got Raphael :tgrin:


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/th_IMG_0304.jpg (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/IMG_0304.jpg)


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/th_IMG_0303-1.jpg (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/IMG_0303-1.jpg)


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/th_IMG_0302-1.jpg (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/IMG_0302-1.jpg)


http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/th_IMG_0301-2.jpg (http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt91/Zodach/IMG_0301-2.jpg)

[natecm]

Awesome pics Zodach!

[Redrumh2o]

Those who ordered last time check your emails.

Too rich for my blood this time.....I wish I could though! Very cool!

[Roseangelo]

Too rich for my blood this time.....I wish I could though! Very cool!

What's up for grabs?

[Redrumh2o]

Everyone will find out at 10amPST........but we are sworn to secrecy until then :tgrin:

[drasgow]

Too rich for my blood this time.....I wish I could though! Very cool!

i ordered last time, and i don't think i got anything special in my email.

[rich]

i ordered last time, and i don't think i got anything special in my email.

Same with me...I didn't receive an email but I ordered previously...checked spam and trash folders too...nothing.

[natecm]

Everyone will find out at 10amPST........but we are sworn to secrecy until then :tgrin:

You're a good dude!

I'm now in the office & available for questions so let's let the world know. Think this needs a new thread?

Anyway:

TMNT: The Ultimate Collection Vol. 1 Deluxe Limited Edition Hardcover goes on sale at 10am pacific.

Red Label is signed, Black & Blue contain OA from TMNT co-creator: Kevin Eastman.

Also, CBR will be posting a review of the Red Label at 10am Pacific.

[HotJuicyBurgers]

You're a good dude!

I'm now in the office & available for questions so let's let the world know. Think this needs a new thread?

Anyway:

TMNT: The Ultimate Collection Vol. 1 Deluxe Limited Edition Hardcover goes on sale at 10am pacific.

Red Label is signed, Black & Blue contain OA from TMNT co-creator: Kevin Eastman.

Also, CBR will be posting a review of the Red Label at 10am Pacific.

Do we really need more of these? Is this just the ultimate collections for the hard cover with limited quantities and original art? I think you are going to see real fast that people are going to be unwilling to pay so much if you keep putting these out all the time, especially since they are rehashing of products that have already been produced. To be fair though, original art from Kevin might make it worth it for some.

Will these sell at the same price as the others, or will there be a higher premium for Kevin's art?

[rich]

You're a good dude!

I'm now in the office & available for questions so let's let the world know. Think this needs a new thread?

Anyway:

TMNT: The Ultimate Collection Vol. 1 Deluxe Limited Edition Hardcover goes on sale at 10am pacific.

Red Label is signed, Black & Blue contain OA from TMNT co-creator: Kevin Eastman.

Also, CBR will be posting a review of the Red Label at 10am Pacific.

Sweet...thanks for the info. I think it's better to keep it all in this thread...it's IDW Limited.

As an aside, I'm curious about what other TMNT comic completists are doing. These IDW Limited books are awesome (just got my Red Label Change Is Constant yesterday). The TMNT enthusiast in me loves that we're seeing so many super-creative and very well-made items but the collector in me is mourning the loss of the ability to collect everything. Collectibles of this magnitude (both in frequency and cost) are very new to us TMNT comic completists. We rarely had to deal with Mirage, Archie, or Image providing such limited and expensive collectibles and, when they did, it was very infrequent. Assuming this type of IDW Limited line continues with the TMNT series, I'm interested to see how other collectors are going to handle this. I've personally had to change my scope and just buy the Red Label of these IDW Limited editions to ensure I can continue collecting the actual TMNT comic books. Dropping $750-$1,000 every few months to get all 3 versions of the TMNT IDW Limited books is just not feasible for me. Are you other collectors going to continue buying all 3 (Red, Black, & Blue) versions of these IDW Limited books?

[natecm]

CBR reviews the Red Label edition here:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=user_review&id=5431

[HotJuicyBurgers]

CBR reviews the Red Label edition here:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=user_review&id=5431

I'm excited to know if people will drop 1,875 bucks to own all of these books...

Plus the red label doesn't come with original art either.

[Coro]

Sweet...thanks for the info. I think it's better to keep it all in this thread...it's IDW Limited.

As an aside, I'm curious about what other TMNT comic completists are doing. These IDW Limited books are awesome (just got my Red Label Change Is Constant yesterday). The TMNT enthusiast in me loves that we're seeing so many super-creative and very well-made items but the collector in me is mourning the loss of the ability to collect everything. Collectibles of this magnitude (both in frequency and cost) are very new to us TMNT comic completists. We rarely had to deal with Mirage, Archie, or Image providing such limited and expensive collectibles and, when they did, it was very infrequent. Assuming this type of IDW Limited line continues with the TMNT series, I'm interested to see how other collectors are going to handle this. I've personally had to change my scope and just buy the Red Label of these IDW Limited editions to ensure I can continue collecting the actual TMNT comic books. Dropping $750-$1,000 every few months to get all 3 versions of the TMNT IDW Limited books is just not feasible for me. Are you other collectors going to continue buying all 3 (Red, Black, & Blue) versions of these IDW Limited books?

I got a Blue each time so far. I figure if I am going to collect 1 of each limited release, I am going to make it the high end one.

[rich]

I'm excited to know if people will drop 1,875 bucks to own all of these books...

Plus the red label doesn't come with original art either.

I'll buy the Red but there's just no way I can justify paying $2K for all of them. Even if I just did a Red, picked one Black, and then the Blue that's $825 !! :o

[dkram230]

I'm excited to know if people will drop 1,875 bucks to own all of these books...

Plus the red label doesn't come with original art either.

If only it was that cheap! The whole set is $2,025 :teek: But that includes 5 "certified" hand drawn full color original art prints from Kevin Eastman himself. I see it as a steal when you look at it that way and the value original Eastman art of TMNT holds.

O- and I can't believe how lightening fast those Blue's sold out!!! I predict the Black label Raph to sellout next.

[HotJuicyBurgers]

I'll buy the Red but there's just no way I can justify paying $2K for all of them. Even if I just did a Red, picked one Black, and then the Blue that's $825 !! :o

I think IDW is beginning to think that we turtle fans might be made out of money. I'm not sure but how did they think that making 325 of the red label would make sense? Aren't there still red labels of the last idw limited that are still left, and those seem like a better deal to me in that at least you get some art. If i'm remembering correctly there was also fewer of those.

[zodach]

Yeah I think they may have made too many of the red labels for this set since they already have the standard release and b/w covers for the ultimate collection. The blue label and black label sets are where it's at :tgrin:

[Master Splinter]

I think IDW is beginning to think that we turtle fans might be made out of money. I'm not sure but how did they think that making 325 of the red label would make sense? Aren't there still red labels of the last idw limited that are still left, and those seem like a better deal to me in that at least you get some art. If i'm remembering correctly there was also fewer of those.

Nobody is making you buy these. You can easily purchase the deluxe hard cover off Amazon for $50 or so just like I did... If this isn't in your price range then IDW isn't marketing these to you...

-ms

[HotJuicyBurgers]

Nobody is making you buy these. You can easily purchase the deluxe hard cover off Amazon for $50 or so just like I did... If this isn't in your price range then IDW isn't marketing these to you...

-ms

True. I do own the normal collections, but i just honestly don't undestand the need for 325 of the red labels

[Coro]

My only complaint is that now that I have the good version I want to UN-BUY the old ones haha. I only really want 1 copy of each book

[junkboy]

I had passed the IDW Limited version of Change is Constant. and i do not feel much of a regret. But to be honest since this is classic material , even tho i own the normal edition HCs, i really would one of these.
If i was a TMNT - only collector , i would buy for sure. But while there are some other cash to be saved for other comics and figure/statues i guess i will be passing those as well.
also if it comes to a point that, IDW Limited starts to publish nearly every collection they publish also in those fancy formats, i know i will be unhappy at the end, since i am a completist and tryiing to buy every one of them is impossible for me.

[Redrumh2o]

I think these are fair prices for colored Eastman art....you don't see too many colored pieces pop up....I just cant afford this at the moment. I am sure I will be kicking myself in the future

[rich]

Bought my Red Label. Looking forward to getting this. Saw that the Blue was already sold out. Hope at least some of the buyers were fellow TMNT collectors. I'm pretty sure at least one buyer isn't. The same guy (I think - different user ID) messaged me again asking if I wanted to buy a "blue edition." :ohwell:

Also, maybe I was seeing things this AM, but did anyone else see that the Blue and Black labels both were priced at $350 initially? Now, the Blue price shows $495. Plus, the Red Label was $350 when I initially added it to my cart this morning.

[zodach]

I saw that too, but I'm not sure you could buy it at that price. I highly doubt they would honor that price if it was available.

[Oculus Orbus]

I really really wanna get a Black Label, but I don't think I can spend that kind of money, and it'd leave me in a very tight situation, so I think I'll just have to go with the Red.

I didn't care at all for the Change Is Constant book, but there's no way I'll pass on this.

[SS_Turtle]

Damn I didn't see my email till just now. I would have loved a blue label book just for the sketch of all the turtles + splinter.

[Oculus Orbus]

Man, I finally went ahead and got myself a Black Label (Leo). Now I need to shake the guilt and relax.

[HotJuicyBurgers]

If only it was that cheap! The whole set is $2,025 :teek: But that includes 5 "certified" hand drawn full color original art prints from Kevin Eastman himself. I see it as a steal when you look at it that way and the value original Eastman art of TMNT holds.

O- and I can't believe how lightening fast those Blue's sold out!!! I predict the Black label Raph to sellout next.

The price used to be that, but now it seems that the price of some of the books have gone up.

[natecm]

The price used to be that, but now it seems that the price of some of the books have gone up.

Depends on the artists involved and all that stuff. Different peoples' signatures and art cost very different rates.

[HotJuicyBurgers]

Depends on the artists involved and all that stuff. Different peoples' signatures and art cost very different rates.

What do you mean? The books are all Kevin Eastman. Earlier today they were cheaper, and now they are more expensive. Maybe I'm not understanding at all.

[TheCanadiandrome]

May or may not get

[Mintyfresh]

What do you mean? The books are all Kevin Eastman. Earlier today they were cheaper, and now they are more expensive. Maybe I'm not understanding at all.
They were never cheaper. There website prices must have been messed up. The email I received yesterday had all the same prices there at now. I think He was referring to the change is constant edition when he said different artist cost different rates. I'm just happy to finally get a Kevin eastman sketch. I just wish I hadn't missed out on the blue label.

[Archon_Turtle]

Sweet...thanks for the info. I think it's better to keep it all in this thread...it's IDW Limited.

As an aside, I'm curious about what other TMNT comic completists are doing. These IDW Limited books are awesome (just got my Red Label Change Is Constant yesterday). The TMNT enthusiast in me loves that we're seeing so many super-creative and very well-made items but the collector in me is mourning the loss of the ability to collect everything. Collectibles of this magnitude (both in frequency and cost) are very new to us TMNT comic completists. We rarely had to deal with Mirage, Archie, or Image providing such limited and expensive collectibles and, when they did, it was very infrequent. Assuming this type of IDW Limited line continues with the TMNT series, I'm interested to see how other collectors are going to handle this. I've personally had to change my scope and just buy the Red Label of these IDW Limited editions to ensure I can continue collecting the actual TMNT comic books. Dropping $750-$1,000 every few months to get all 3 versions of the TMNT IDW Limited books is just not feasible for me. Are you other collectors going to continue buying all 3 (Red, Black, & Blue) versions of these IDW Limited books?

To answer your question, I think I've made friends with adopting a "Blue only" policy as long as I have the ability. In my head, as the blues are the "superior" version, the Blue editions "include" the previous editions. If that makes sense....

[Coro]

To answer your question, I think I've made friends with adopting a "Blue only" policy as long as I have the ability. In my head, as the blues are the "superior" version, the Blue editions "include" the previous editions. If that makes sense....

I am doing the same thing

[HotJuicyBurgers]

They were never cheaper. There website prices must have been messed up. The email I received yesterday had all the same prices there at now. I think He was referring to the change is constant edition when he said different artist cost different rates. I'm just happy to finally get a Kevin eastman sketch. I just wish I hadn't missed out on the blue label.

That's exactly what I am talking about. When I first saw the web site, the page reflected a cheaper price, and then it was changed to the current price

Just because it was a mistake doesn't change the fact that I saw those prices lol

[dkram230]

Sweet...thanks for the info. I think it's better to keep it all in this thread...it's IDW Limited.

As an aside, I'm curious about what other TMNT comic completists are doing. These IDW Limited books are awesome (just got my Red Label Change Is Constant yesterday). The TMNT enthusiast in me loves that we're seeing so many super-creative and very well-made items but the collector in me is mourning the loss of the ability to collect everything. Collectibles of this magnitude (both in frequency and cost) are very new to us TMNT comic completists. We rarely had to deal with Mirage, Archie, or Image providing such limited and expensive collectibles and, when they did, it was very infrequent. Assuming this type of IDW Limited line continues with the TMNT series, I'm interested to see how other collectors are going to handle this. I've personally had to change my scope and just buy the Red Label of these IDW Limited editions to ensure I can continue collecting the actual TMNT comic books. Dropping $750-$1,000 every few months to get all 3 versions of the TMNT IDW Limited books is just not feasible for me. Are you other collectors going to continue buying all 3 (Red, Black, & Blue) versions of these IDW Limited books?

At the moment, I see the collection of all label colors as the full set. The covers are variant, even if it is just the label denotation, as is the content inside. My job is in document control and I would view each label type to have their own unique part number since they would be manufactured, packed, and inventoried differently. Therefore to truly be a completist on these you would need one of each. In fact, there are technically 4 versions of the Black label. Since the Black label for "Change is Constant" was a print at random, it only had one version. But the "Ultimate Collections" will be sorted by the 4 print types and are being sold as such. So to collect all of these new offerings you would need to buy 6 books.

My original intent with these limited books was to buy two of each: one to open and enjoy and one to keep sealed and collect. However, both market demand and my pocket book no longer allow for this to be possible. So for this most recent offering I opted for all 6- one each type, including all versions of the Black label. It wasn't my original intent to buy 4 blacks but I knew if I didn't I would regret it! That being said, if these offerings continue to be as frequent and costly as they are currently, I am going to have to scale back. But for now I am definitely enjoying IDW Limited!

[Coro]

At the moment, I see the collection of all label colors as the full set. The covers are variant, even if it is just the label denotation, as is the content inside. My job is in document control and I would view each label type to have their own unique part number since they would be manufactured, packed, and inventoried differently. Therefore to truly be a completist on these you would need one of each. In fact, there are technically 4 versions of the Black label. Since the Black label for "Change is Constant" was a print at random, it only had one version. But the "Ultimate Collections" will be sorted by the 4 print types and are being sold as such. So to collect all of these new offerings you would need to buy 6 books.

My original intent with these limited books was to buy two of each: one to open and enjoy and one to keep sealed and collect. However, both market demand and my pocket book no longer allow for this to be possible. So for this most recent offering I opted for all 6- one each type, including all versions of the Black label. It wasn't my original intent to buy 4 blacks but I knew if I didn't I would regret it! That being said, if these offerings continue to be as frequent and costly as they are currently, I am going to have to scale back. But for now I am definitely enjoying IDW Limited!

With your method of collecting you should have bought all 10 blues, all 25 Blacks and all 125 reds the last go round... all the art was different in each one. If you are collecting every little difference you will go broke pretty quick. You can argue that you are a completionist more than everyone else, but your logic contradicts that by your own admission :tlol:

[zodach]

I'm so glad I'm not a completionist. It makes my head hurt just reading what you guys think about these sets :teek:

[dkram230]

With your method of collecting you should have bought all 10 blues, all 25 Blacks and all 125 reds the last go round... all the art was different in each one. If you are collecting every little difference you will go broke pretty quick. You can argue that you are a completionist more than everyone else, but your logic contradicts that by your own admission :tlol:

No- as I said in my post, with the last round the art was all packed at random and there was essentially only one offering of each book type on the website. This second round separates out the books by print types and this is reflected on the order page. I'm not trying to "argue," but my point is that for this round, IDW Limited if offering 6 options on the page just as they offered 3 options with the last round. I view that as 6 different versions so to have a complete set a collector would want one of each. People are going to have differing opinions on this matter and there is nothing wrong with that. But Rich asked for advice and opinions from fellow collectors and I was just giving him mine.

[rich]

...I see the collection of all label colors as the full set. The covers are variant, even if it is just the label denotation...

In my head, as the blues are the "superior" version, the Blue editions "include" the previous editions...

I am doing the same thing

Thank you guys for weighing in on this. Appreciate your opinions as fellow collectors. There's for sure no right or wrong method of "what" you collect...in the end it's your collection and you get to decide what's in it, right? :D

In regards to "completist" or "completionist" and what that's about, I also think this is subject to one's opinions. Personally, for 25 years, I've labeled myself a "completist" and I defined this as collecting at least one or each variant of the TMNT comics and books themselves. That might be cover, interior, or error but the book itself being different or unique is what I was after. I needed to wait until I received my Red Label Change Is Constant though to really comment on whether the Red, Black, and Blue label books themselves are different. Of course, by now you all know that they are. They each have a different colored exterior label (red, black, or blue) but the interior bound page with the raised stamp also is unique to the Red, Black, or Blue books themselves.

So, to really stay true to how I've always collected as a "completist" would mean I'd need one each of the Red, Black, and Blue labels. The art itself is not relevant to my decision if it isn't really joined to the book itself.

However, this now gets REALLY involved with these Vol. 1 Ltd. Edition BLACK Labels. Since numbering comes into play with defining what a variant or unique edition is, the key here is this. Each of the books has a "Mounted signature page signed by TMNT co-creator Kevin Eastman, hand-crimped and numbered to TEN." Since this page is part of the book itself this means each of the 4 Black Labels of Vol. 1 Ltd. Ed. are variants (at least by how I would define this). That numbering within the books themselves is what I see as the key to defining it as a variant. They are each limited to ten and, therefore, I'd need 1 each of those 10 variant editions to have a complete set. For Vol. 1 Ltd. Ed. there are 6 variants (1 Red, 4 Black, 1 Blue). For Change Is Constant there are 3 variants (Red, Black, Blue).

So, since I've only decided to collect the Red Labels from IDW Limited I can't still call myself a TMNT "completist" by my own definition of what that is. However, I've come to terms with this and am OK with it. Largely because I don't want my collecting hobby (which I very much enjoy) to negatively impact my family or my finances. Collecting should be fun but, honestly, if I bought all of these it would become painful financially and then it would no longer be enjoyable. But don't get me wrong, if I could afford it I'd snap up one of every single edition of these.

In the end, I think it's so cool that the TMNT are back in a big way. These books are just evidence of that. Some of you likely remember the "dry" TMNT years where there was just NOTHING...I would have given anything to have stuff like this around during that time.

I'm so glad I'm not a completionist. It makes my head hurt just reading what you guys think about these sets :teek:

Yes, it can get mind-numbing as a collector. And this post likely didn't help that any. Sorry in advance. :)

[Archon_Turtle]

What also really made a difference for me in this decision is that it was Kevin's work this time around. Don't get me wrong, I love Kevin and his work...but I own a ton of his art already.

As such, it was really difficult for me to justify Buying all these different art incentives, when I have so many fantastic (not to mention vintage) Kevin pieces on my walls.

The last wave was a little different because, aside from a couple pages, I don't own any Dan art.

Edit:
Additionally, from an art collecting standpoint, the blacks are pretty expensive. Now mind you, this is only the case if you arent in it for the book as well. If you are only after the art (like many people seemed to be for the Dan Duncan books last time around), Vintage 1 figure character art by kevin can be had in the price range of these black editions. As an example, I have a full color 1985 Eastman Raph piece that I paid $400 for within the last year.

[FoxZerro]

I've already had my say about what I think about these items and a collector driven environment, so I won't recap that.

What I will say is I wish that they would wait until after they've printed all of the Ultimate Collections before they started doing things like this. I keep receiving the e-mails that the release date on Ultimate Collection Four is being pushed back and I now see that work on an Ultimate Edition rerelease of Volume One is one of the reasons why... It would be nice if they finished rereleasing the series before they started putting out this collector bait.

[frank_one]

Stop doing these expensive rich-collector-only limited-for-the-sake-of-it books. We are comicbooks readers, not art collectors. If I want my books signed I take them to convenctions and have them signed, if I want some original art I ask the artist for a commission. We don't need items that are limited on purpose, just for the sake of it. Put your effort in doing good affordable books for all: Ultimate collections were good enough, we don't need Ultimate Deluxe collections.
I wonder what they would do if they ever manage to have Laird doing some sketch and signs. $2000 Super Extreme Ultimate Deluxe editions?

[Archon_Turtle]

Stop doing these expensive rich-collector-only limited-for-the-sake-of-it books. We are comicbooks readers, not art collectors. If I want my books signed I take them to convenctions and have them signed, if I want some original art I ask the artist for a commission. We don't need items that are limited on purpose, just for the sake of it. Put your effort in doing good affordable books for all: Ultimate collections were good enough, we don't need Ultimate Deluxe collections.
I wonder what they would do if they ever manage to have Laird doing some sketch and signs. $2000 Super Extreme Ultimate Deluxe editions?

Not sure I agree with this. I think it's kind of lame to say something is bad just because you aren't interested in it or because it's outside your budgetary scope.

You simply can't use the royal "we" in this case. Because many of us ARE art collectors. Many of us ARE interested in this level of collectible. You can't tell them they shouldn't do something simply because you, a single consumer, don't want it. The imprint has already proven itself in sales. There is a big enough market interested in this level of collectible to sustain it. So more power to them.

I also don't think that doing these books are taking many resources from the other books. That is why IDW Limited is it's own imprint with its own schedule, and it's own resources. Nate can probably speak more to this.

[FoxZerro]

I also don't think that doing these books are taking many resources from the other books. That is why IDW Limited is it's own imprint with its own schedule, and it's own resources.

I only said that because these books are showcasing original art from Kevin Eastman and Bobby has been saying on the IDW boards for sometime that he is waiting for Annotations and the Cover from him. Regardless of a separate inprint, Kevin Eastman is one man, and if there is more money to be made on these Ultimate Deluxe editions, which mathematically there is since 420 > 50, 350 > 50, and 125 > 50. One could easily imagine that these books would take precedence.


Stop doing these expensive rich-collector-only limited-for-the-sake-of-it books. We are comicbooks readers, not art collectors. If I want my books signed I take them to convenctions and have them signed, if I want some original art I ask the artist for a commission. We don't need items that are limited on purpose, just for the sake of it. Put your effort in doing good affordable books for all: Ultimate collections were good enough, we don't need Ultimate Deluxe collections.
I wonder what they would do if they ever manage to have Laird doing some sketch and signs. $2000 Super Extreme Ultimate Deluxe editions?

I agree, I understand that some people out there are in fact Art Collector's I myself have some pretty cool and unique prints from some of my favorite artists. Still I preferred when getting a signed comic book meant going to a signing or convention... not just buying it off the internet.

[Archon_Turtle]

I agree, I understand that some people out there are in fact Art Collector's I myself have some pretty cool and unique prints from some of my favorite artists. Still I preferred when getting a signed comic book meant going to a signing or convention... not just buying it off the internet.

But even then, why would any of that be cause for them to stop being produced? If you don't want them...don't buy them. Plenty of people want them, and buy them. Stopping production would not have any positive impact on the people who don't like them...but it would have a negative impact on the people who DO want them. So saying they shouldn't be made just because you don't buy them is a pretty selfish play.

[Roseangelo]

I agree, I understand that some people out there are in fact Art Collector's I myself have some pretty cool and unique prints from some of my favorite artists. Still I preferred when getting a signed comic book meant going to a signing or convention... not just buying it off the internet.

There's nothing stopping you from buying the regular edition and takin it to a convention to get signed. It's not like Kevin won't sign those simply because the Limited books exist.

[Oculus Orbus]

I'm not an art collector nor a completitionist, but I enjoy owning some original art from artists I admire and every now and then I do buy variants and such. The issues included in this volume are massively important for me, and an edition like this is something I've been wanting for many years. I honestly don't see how this hurts the other, more affordable editions of the same material. Granted this books are not for everyone, but it's not like the stories in it are restricted to only the Deluxe version.

Personally, I'm aware that I could get Eastman's art for less than that, but I'm also buying an extremely nice book, and yes, with a very limited run (wich plays a big role in the price). I would still buy it despite the number of copies printed, but I understand that the less there are, the more it costs. I remember when we paid $10 for the last issues of Mirage Vol.4 not that long ago.

Of course we don't "need" this collections, but there are people willing to buy them, and at the end of the day, publishing companies just want to make money. I think the effort put in this things is worth the money, so that's why I'm buying it, but that's just an opinion and everyone's gonna have their own.

[Matches Malone]

I only said that because these books are showcasing original art from Kevin Eastman and Bobby has been saying on the IDW boards for sometime that he is waiting for Annotations and the Cover from him. Regardless of a separate inprint, Kevin Eastman is one man, and if there is more money to be made on these Ultimate Deluxe editions, which mathematically there is since 420 > 50, 350 > 50, and 125 > 50. One could easily imagine that these books would take precedence.

The point that Kevin Eastman is only one man, I get. But either way, IDW is going to keep thinking up ways to find cool things for him to do. I'm bummed that the cover isn't ready yet, but I don't think it would necessarily be done sooner if these didn't exist. He'd probably just be working on something else.

The math part is where you lose me. There is supply AND demand. You can make a $350 book, but if you only make 10, you can't compare that to 1,000 $50 books sold. Sure, there is some monetary incentive from these publishers to put out these collectible books, but it's a little nutty to say these take precedence over their main reprint books which have way higher runs. In the end, as long as they don't replace the more affordable books for everyone, there's nothing being taken away, only added.

[Chris]

Oh man, if I'd known about these in time I would have been all over a Blue label.

Black label (Leo) is tempting, but since I'd be getting it for the art not the book I'm not sure I can justify the price (495 for the group shot in color is a bargain, 350 for 1 character's not as easy to justify to my bank balance, or my wife, this close to Christmas).

[Archon_Turtle]

which mathematically there is since 420 > 50, 350 > 50, and 125 > 50.

Yeah, this is just terrible math.
The print run for the unlimited versions of a UC hardcover are unknown to me, but for the sake of argument, lets just say it's double the limited "convention" version print run (which is 500).

So lets use the $50 price point you proposed as a baseline for the unlimited (it would actually be a little less on their end since they don't sell them direct at that price...but let's not over-complicate this).

$50 x 1000 = $50,000 Retail for the Unlimited Print run

And you know what? For kicks, lets add in the "convention" print run of the same book, since all the extra work for those is production and manufacturing work. No extra work for the artist.

So another $50 x 500 = $25,000 retail

So far we have roughly $75,000 in retail for the Non-artist involved copies.

Now. Lets do some quick math for the IDW Limited versions. We aren't even going to count the added production costs of the books that are hand crafted.

Blue Label $500 x 10 = $5,000
Black Label $350 x 40 = $14,000
Red Label $325 x 125 = $40,625

So Retail for Limited is $59,625. About $15,000 LESS in retail than the regular books.

Now, there is going to be a variance due to the fact that the Unlimited books get a percentage taken from Diamond for them that the Limited books don't since they are sold Direct. But there is also a cost variance going the other way since the Limited's are much more expensive to produce and they have to pay a page rate to the artist for the extra art.

My point is that, the Limited imprint doesn't exist for IDW to make hand-over-fist money from the collector base, and they aren't fleecing people who buy them. It exists because they want to provide the service for the collectors. IDW Limited is a credibility engine for IDW, not a money maker.

Food for thought.

[HotJuicyBurgers]

Yeah, this is just terrible math.
The print run for the Unlimited versions of a UC hardcover are unknown, but for the sake of argument, lets just say it's double the limited "convention" version print run (which is 500).

So lets use the $50 price point you proposed as a baseline for the unlimited (it would actually be a little less on their end since they don't sell them direct at that price...but let's not over-complicate this).

$50 x 1000 = $50,000 Retail for the Unlimited Print run

And you know what? For kicks, lets add in the "convention" print run of the same book, since all the extra work for those is production and manufacturing work. No extra work for the artist.

So another $50 x 500 = $25,000 retail

So far we have roughly $75,000 in retail for the Non-artist involved copies.

Now. Lets do some quick math for the IDW Limited versions. We aren't even going to count the added production costs of the books that are hand crafted.

Blue Label $500 x 10 = $5,000
Black Label $350 x 40 = $14,000
Red Label $325 x 125 = $40,625

So Retail for Limited is $59,625. About $15,000 LESS in retail than the regular books.

Now, there is going to be a variance due to the fact that the Unlimited books get a percentage taken from Diamond for them that the Limited books don't since they are sold Direct. But there is also a cost variance going the other way since the Limited's are much more expensive to produce and they have to pay a page rate to the artist for the extra art.

My point is that, the Limited imprint doesn't exist for IDW to make hand-over-fist money from the collector base, and they aren't fleecing people who buy them. It exists because they want to provide the service for the collectors. IDW Limited is a credibility engine for IDW, not a money maker.

Food for thought.

I agree with your thinking that it is more cost beneficial for idw to make the normal hardcovers, but saying that all these books sell for 50 isn't very accurate. I bet a ton of people that get these get them from amazon where they are about 28 dollars. Regardless of this, there are so many factors that change, (could the print run be higher? how much extra work does it really take to make these hand printed editions? How much are they paying Kevin for all that extra drawing he has to do?) That I do think the normal hardcovers are a bigger money maker for them.

BUT, I'm sure Idw knows there will be people like us that will double dip and buy both :lol:

[Archon_Turtle]

I agree with your thinking that it is more cost beneficial for idw to make the normal hardcovers, but saying that all these books sell for 50 isn't very accurate. I bet a ton of people that get these get them from amazon where they are about 28 dollars. Regardless of this, there are so many factors that change, (could the print run be higher? how much extra work does it really take to make these hand printed editions? How much are they paying Kevin for all that extra drawing he has to do?) That I do think the normal hardcovers are a bigger money maker for them.

BUT, I'm sure Idw knows there will be people like us that will double dip and buy both :lol:

Yeah i was going off the MSRP since thats what the other guy was going off of. But even so, If EVERY copy sold for $28, thats 28,000 + $25,000 (every copy of the convention versions DO sell for $50 since they are directly sold). So the lowball is $53,000. Again, that would be assuming every person that bought the book did so through Amazon.