Official Ep Discussion: #4 "New Friend, Old Enemy"

[Machias Banshee]

Welcome back to our next installment of our boys in green...!

Alright, so we FINALLY get to see our first glimpse of Shredder and the foot. After catching a glimpse of a scarred, evil-incarnate Shredder from the premiere, to finally see Shredder in full light is going to be AMAZING...

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I love Mike... he's so eager to get to the surface and make friends with the human world. Unfortunately, he just can't catch a break. Ever since he came to the surface for the first time, every time he tried to make friends, the humans either freaked out and ran in terror, or they tried to kill him. Even sweet, adorable kittens lashed out and turned him into a claw sharpener...

Well, that may change. He's had enough of being picked on and getting tormented by his brothers, and the whole being stuck under the sewers. He wants to make some friends. Ones that even have some similar interests as him... sounds great, doesn't it? Finally a human that he can get along with. With April's help, He manages to get online and makes friends with the famous roundhouse-kicking ninja master known as Chris Bradford (or Chuck Norris, in this world...).

Ah, Mikey the internet noob....

Things are going to get crazy. No cancer-curing tears, or widespread impregnation's when Chris walks into a room. Looks like Bradford's involved in some very suspicious activities... ones that threaten the safety of the entire Hamato clan. Mike's gonna learn that men and things are not what they seem - and it's going to be a very harsh lesson on social human interaction...

SO...

Will Mike's expectations of his childhood hero be crushed?
Can his brothers save him before something BAD happens?
How kick-a$$ is Shredder going to be?!?!


Stay Tuned!!

[Machias Banshee]

Morning everyone.. enjoy the show. :)

We'll have a poll up later today...

[Donatello19]

Morning everyone.. enjoy the show. :)

We'll have a poll up later today...

A poll for what?

[HerpDerp]

A poll for what?

Presumably for people to rate the episode. :)

[sykosis]

A poll for what?

for the strippers

[MrTMNT2012]

for the strippers

I normally don't laugh to comments, but that was Hilarious! Lol :) :)

[MikeandRaph87]

So Clancy "Luthor" Brown ,who was said to voice a character in the show is going to voice Shredder's lastest righthand Chris Bradford,Mike's wannabe friend.

I do like the way the fight is choreographed with the Foot in this episode!

[Jester]

We think so...not enough dialogue for a conclusive guess.

[Moonlight1102]

lol Facebook exists in this universe.

[Allio]

Mikey does a Kamen Rider Ichigo reference during his kata
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/k/kamen1.jpg

[ComicBookBoy]

I like the lesson of this episode: don't fight fairly, do what it takes to win.

Nice... very nice. :tcool:

[Moonlight1102]

This episode is so funny. :tgrin:

[MikeandRaph87]

lol Facebook exists in this universe.

It could be Myspace,Twitter,Digg, or even LinkedIn if not some generic social network!:twink:

Bradford's partner for this episode is he just some generic punk or will/is this character of any significance?

I like seeing Splinter strongarm Leo!:tlol: Its a nice change of pace from Mke getting hit by Raph or someone else.

[psych23232323]

I like the lesson of this episode: don't fight fairly, do what it takes to win.

Nice... very nice. :tcool:

Especially when you have ninjas trying to kill you.

[Moonlight1102]

It could be Myspace

Whospace??

[Moonlight1102]

They really made Mikey "cute" in this show.

[sykosis]

Best episode since the premier

[ComicBookBoy]

It could be Myspace,Twitter,Digg, or even LinkedIn if not some generic social network!:twink:

Bradford's partner for this episode is he just some generic punk or will/is this character of any significance?

I like seeing Splinter strongarm Leo!:tlol: Its a nice change of pace from Mke getting hit by Raph or someone else.

I don't know a lot about the upcoming episodes but I think Bradford and that punk will turn into Dogpound and Fishface. I haven't researched anything, I'm just saying what i think will happen.

[Moonlight1102]

Is Chris voiced by Clancy Brown?

[MikeandRaph87]

I don't know a lot about the upcoming episodes but I think Bradford and that punk will turn into Dogpound and Fishface. I haven't researched anything, I'm just saying what i think will happen.

Lex Luthor a mutant? Chris Bradford is Dogpound? The punk(Xever?,what kinda name is that?) is Fishface? Bygolly,I think you got it!

[oldmanwinters]

"Ha, ha... Revenge!"

[Tomoshibi Amatsu]

I really liked this episode, and I'm starting to like Mikey a bit more in this series. I especially enjoyed that they let him be the one to beat Rad Brad.

[Donatello19]

Best episode since the premier

I agree, I liked the episode alot. It was way better than turtle temper in my opinion

[vagrant718]

I like the 'fall of the foot clan' pose before they fought the foot

Anybody else caught that?

[ComicBookBoy]

I didn't like last week's episode very much, but this episode was pretty, may I say, SWEET! I've been watching cartoons since 7:30 this morning leading up to the new Ninja Turtles;and it was the best show I've watched today. I really like the fight scenes, better than any other action cartoon on Nick(excluding DBZkai).

[NinjaMan]

Gosh I love this show. I'm a huge Transformers fan and I love this show more than the Prime show. The characters are so awesome. Loved the fight scenes. And Xever I believe is Fishface.

[HerpDerp]

Loved this episode, it was much better than Turtle Temper IMO. I like how Mikey actually got to have his revenge on Bradford/Chrissy B/Rad Brad and did so using the same move that Bradford taught him. Oh, and "UNFRIEND".
Great action scenes.
Love the relationship between the brothers and Raph's little pep talk at the end.
Splinter is awesome, but I was kind of surprised when he beat Leo with his staff. Harsh. :P
Laughed when Mikey thought the guy under the helmet was "that guy with the cat".

[pannoni1]

Great episode, I liked it more than last weeks, and is on par with the two-part premiere. my.face as a Facebook reference was cool, there were two pizza references (Mike to Chris, and at the end of the episode). I also noticed that April's laptop had an anachronistic '90s dial-up sound to it. We also know that it's currently in the middle of the summer based on the Chris Bradford billboard.
Knowing that Splinter/Leo saying that its just the beginning of Shredder's revenge provides a great cliffhanger to the next episode. I predict that Chris and his Xever are being swept back to the Kraang, though their mutation shouldn't take place until around the middle of the season since we still have Chris and Xever in a couple more episodes. It seemed like the voice actors are starting to get into the series a bit more confidently here even and the animation was good.

I've noticed that it helps to have lights off for watching this series as many of the indoor fight scenes have low lighting as if the lights are turned off. Still, it's cool seeing the first battle in the sewers along with the first fight with the Foot. I thought the way the Foot got defeated during the final battle was cool, since it didn't catch Chris and Xever's attention, which eventually led to a Turtles victory. We also got a first Turtlenapping of the series in the form of Michelangelo, who I predict will be kidnapped more than any other Turtle in this series, and possibly more so than April.

With next week, since in the OT Baxter drove the Turtlevan, I feel we may see the debut of the Shellraiser next week.

[DarkLightDragon]

Another well done episode.:)


Really did feel bad for Mikey in some parts and I especially liked how Raph was actually nice to Mikey near the end. Hopefully that will cast away the "Raph is a bully" bandwagon from the last episode.

[XERO]

So Donatello has a secret candid picture of April eating a pizza as his wallpaper...

Issuuuuuues.

[zaktheneutrino]

By far my favorite episode since the premiere. I loved the part where Brad, Xever and the foot followed the turtles into the sewer. The scene had an edgy/darker feel to it, especially when the turtles walked out of the water when Brad told them to show themselves. They looked awesome, mirage like! This show just keeps getting better. The mix of action and comedy is perfect. I'm guessing that Brad and Xever turn into Dogpound and Fishface now after being washed through the sewers. I liked how Chris looked though, almost like a foot elite. I would enjoy seeing his human form for at least a few more episodes, if not longer.

Was Yoshi called Splinter before he mutated? I was confused as to why Shredder said Yoshi is still alive and Brad responded with "We will find Splinter". How does he know that he's Splinter/mutated? If I'm correct, Shredder only has Yoshi's throwing star as evidence to his survival.

[FoxZerro]

This episode was crazy good and by that I mean good and a little bit crazy. I know its insane but each time I watch the show I have tears in my eyes they have nailed these characters so well in this incarnation and it makes my heart swell with pride and I can't help but shed tears of pure joy at how they are being represented. Mike in the show has already impressed me but you add in his curiousity and desire to connect with humans and he is quickly becoming the more dynamic character on the show.

The entire opening sequence was spot on TMNT and very exciting. I have to agree with Leo that it was nice to see them fighting actual humans instead of aliens. They showed a great dynamic in the fact that they could easily waste the meatbags that are the foot ninjas and then were totally overwhelmed by someone with a little more training. I especially enjoyed Splinter's lesson to Leonardo imparted in a way that is sure to cement those facts in Leo's mind.

The best part was this episode acheived exactly what I wanted it to. As soon as I read Dogpound's bio on the back of the toy, I wanted Chris and one of the Turtles to become friends and then for Rad Brad to ultimately betray them. The inclusion of Xever in this episode was a great touch and when these guys eventually do mutate, I already believe that they will be more of a threat than Bebop and Rocksteady ever were.

Hopefully this episode has ceased the fear of the show being mutant of the week or repetetive. If each episode could be this good then we have nothing to worry about.

lol Facebook exists in this universe.

It was called My Face... nice little Portmanteau of MySpace and Facebook and I great joke too

[NinjaMan]

I liked Raph's little talk to Mikey. Felt like a real brotherly moment. And I can't stress enough how the brotherly dynamic between these 4 is being nailed each week.

[Cryomancer]

Did they screw with the timeslot? Switched over to catch it and it was already half over.

Anyway from what I did see, horray, we can punch people directly in the face in this show. So at least the violence isn't completely toned down.

[MrTMNT2012]

HOLY CRAP DID THIS EPISODE KICK @SS!!!! To all the people who thought there weren't enough Ninja moments in the new show, They MUST see this episode. Loved the character development for Michelangelo and the Humor was Spot on! The fight scenes were great like Don countering the Ninjas attacks was really awesome. Overall a much better episode than last weeks, 9/10 :) :) :) :)

[chrisdude]

Awesome episode! Lots of laughs.

From the rescue, through the sewer fight, I was nothing but impressed. I love how they've put effort into the little bits where they could've gotten away without it. The flip competition, how the running on the rooftops, the teamwork attacks, the way they repelled in...
I'm having trouble expressing how happy I am with how cool everything looks :o

[TurtleTitan97]

This was a pretty great episode. I loved the fight in the sewers between the turtles and Bradford. Also liked the pep talk Raph gave to Mikey. :tgrin: And Mikey was just awesome.

[Cure]

This episode was really sporadic.

[Keno]

Great episode. Great mix of humor and action.

[marcelangelo]

hi guys...I cannot see the episode so far, but it shouldn't take long until I will be able to see it;)...
I am so thrilled for new episodes, makes my weekend really;)...
I am very happy about some of you mentioning a fall of the foot clan pose somewhere in this episode as this game holds a pretty special place in my heart...
glad you all seemed to enjoy it!

[FoxZerro]

This episode was really sporadic.

That's not what that means. :twink:

[Jephael]

Awesome episode. Funny thing is my aunt and uncle used to have a kitten named Mittens who had the exact same fur pattern, and she was kind of the same way - cute and cuddly, but also had a mean streak.

The social networking reference was pretty funny, and I'm hoping it'll pop up again.

BTW, did anyone notice that picture of April on Donatello's laptop? Pretty weird.

[Donnie]

I love every second of this new show. Wouldn't change a thing.

[HerpDerp]

Splinter is constantly stroking his beard. I'm surprised he hasn't pulled it all out by now.

[MikeandRaph87]

I love every second of this new show. Wouldn't change a thing.

Mike naming his toes was stupid.Edit that out and I will agree for the most part.

Had Splinter and April met?It seemed odd to find her in the lair.Her purpose just seemed to drive a plotbeat of introducing Mike to social networking which Don could have done. I hope to see this deaged April put to some use soon.

[Valtus3200]

Okay, been lurking here for a few months, as I had nothing new to say about anything. Hi. Valtus is back. :P

Dumping opinions in huge heaps of awesome in... 3... 2....

Four episodes in, one stinker, and I'm leaning toward liking this new show. Though, I still prefer 2k3's animation and epic story arcs. Mikey is friggin hilarious in this!

Today's episode was pretty good, I laughed, A LOT.

Man, I'm actually pretty glad to see the TMNT get some more diversified villains this time around. The plethora of shredders (and random comic book villains from the Mirage verse) was cool, but, as long as they don't over do it with the random mutations of random enemies, I think this show has some serious potential.

The CG still bothers me a bit... it just doesn't look as hard hitting, fast, or fluid, as the 2k3 show's later seasons did. I mean, the fight scenes in that were AMAZING for the most part. I'm hoping they find a good balance, so things don't look like they're obviously being animated on a rig in Maya. Some scenes work better than others, though. My main problem is with the over all jerky feel to some of the combat moves.

And for the individual turtles...

Raph's voice bothered me for the first few episodes... I'm just so used to him having a bit of an obvious New York accent, you know? That's one of the staples of the character that I've always loved. But, after some time, I've started to get past that and get a little more comfortable with the VA.

I prefer this Leo. He has more to learn than the other incarnations, and I can see potential in future character arcs with him. No gripes.

Don sounds awesome, obviously thanks to OT Raph's VA. XD But, I'm still not such a fan of his overall look... growing on me... but that missing tooth just irks me for some reason.

I wouldn't change Mikey at all.

One thing that is getting a bit annoying... is how the Kraang talk. I seriously hope the leader Kraang knows a bit more English.

[Tomoshibi Amatsu]

You know we needed episodes like this in the 2K3 series for Mikey. That would have been pretty cool.

[MrTMNT2012]

Favourite Moments:

. "Your a Mutant Turtle armed with Ninja weapons..."
. "No it can't be...Your the guy with the cat!"
. Shredders cameo at the beginning
. Chris Bradford being voiced by Clancy Brown
. Xevers got skills, can't wait for his showdown with Leo in episode 8
. The turtles using some badass Ninja skills in the shadows
. When they rise from the water....BADASS!
. First fight with the foot
. Final fight in the sewer

:)

[Green Machine]

"Are you an idiot? Wait, let me rephrase that! You're an idiot!"

Laughed out loud! I love Raph.

[Powder]

Love it. Loved them all so far. Always funny & animated well.

[cryan]

I missed the episode this morning.I was looking at the listing on my guide and they are not rerunning the episode tomorrow and Monday.What the heck?

[Toby Barrett]

Only thing that caught me off guard was Bradford knowing Hamato Yoshi goes by the name Splinter, after just learning that he's been alive all this time. Aside from that, this was a great episode, and I can't help but have felt a little sorry for April in this episode, being treated like she's obligated to the their friends.

[Xav]

there were two pizza references (Mike to Chris, and at the end of the episode).I counted three Mike to Chris, picture of April eating pizza on Don's labtop, and the Turtles eating pizza.

[Huree]

This episode was great.

This series really nails the dynamic of the Turtles as brothers. I love the little touches like when they rescue Mikey and Leo rubs his head or Raph's talk at the end with him.

The fights with the foot were really awesome. The part at the end when the Turtles are picking them off one by one in the sewers was SO cool, I'd love to see more expressions of that idea that the Turtles are a very dangerous unit on their home turf.

It was nice to finally see an episode with alot of foot clan action as opposed to the Krang stuff we've gotten for the past 3 episodes.

I really like Leo so far in this series and I can't wait to see him tackle the challenges waiting for him down the road.

This series goes for the extremely funny and the extremely serious (Shredder's pretty darn scary) and I think they're really nailing it.

-We got our first view of how this show renders the daytime when Mikey and Rad Brad were outside eating pizza. I really loved it. It's a polluted hazy smog filled NYC sky.

-The only thing I didn't like about this episode is that April is just sitting in the lair hanging out. I know we've already met her but I would've liked a scene or 2 explaining how she got there. Who is she living with now that her Dad is gone? Did the Turtles ask her to hang out and lead her to the lair?

[HerpDerp]

I missed the episode this morning.I was looking at the listing on my guide and they are not rerunning the episode tomorrow and Monday.What the heck?

They repeat the episodes on Thursday nights, but if you can't wait that long they will have it uploaded to Nick.com before then. With the last episode I think it was actually online the same day.

[TurtleTitan97]

Who is she living with now that her Dad is gone?

April said in Rise of the Turtles part 2 that she was staying with her aunt.

[Raph's Girl]

Oh hai Clancy Brown!!

This ep was awesome and not cuz Clancy Brown is a big bad.

I too was confused by him knowing Yoshi is called Splinter. I guess that was Yoshi's nickname in Japan? :ohwell:

I just feel sorry for Mikey. At least he learned a lesson that not every human is nice like April (why was she even there?). Plus he learned a Shredder move and used it back on ole Clancy. :D

Leo learned a lesson in uh... fairness...

Loved it when Donnie MacGyver'd his way into Bradford's dojo.

[fakecortex]

Only thing that caught me off guard was Bradford knowing Hamato Yoshi goes by the name Splinter, after just learning that he's been alive all this time.

I caught that too. Maybe Hamato Yoshi went by Splinter in Japan? I was hoping for a flashback sequence this episode; those have been great. Also, Chris Bradford's uniform was a great homage to Mirage Shredder. Anyone think maybe Mikey will have a kitten named Klunk in this series? :tsmile:

[alliance]

Seeing Michaelangelo not be some vulnerable turtle and kicking norris' ass was it for me, soooooooo relieved to see that my goodness, seeing even Splinter one up Leo was awesome their one on one talks i hope to see more of love the student teacher interactions with these two, Donatellos laptop pic with April had me laughing for 5 minutes that was sick and soo so funny, i was pissed off seeing the black guy and kick the turtles asses for a bit there..he just seems like a regular dude for me to believe it but they returned there whooping right back which was what i was hoping for..i would love to see more Pizza in the Episodes too, it makes me hungry more

This may be my Favorite Episode so far,

anyone notice how a half hour just flies when youre watching this :tsad:

[NinjaMan]

Silly question, but I noticed the subway turnstiles. Do they live in a closed down subway?

[Allio]

Since is Rise of the turtles part 2, Splinter said he lost his name. Perhaps it means that "Splinter" is a title one gives to members of the clan that are forced to leave/or leaves on their own accord. Such as they are as useless as a little splinter that fell off the bigger block of wood

[marcelangelo]

Since is Rise of the turtles part 2, Splinter said he lost his name. Perhaps it means that "Splinter" is a title one gives to members of the clan that are forced to leave/or leaves on their own accord. Such as they are as useless as a little splinter that fell off the bigger block of wood

you know thats a pretty good idea!
I kept that he lost his name back in my mind as well, but haven't seen the new episode so far...

[Raph's Girl]

Silly question, but I noticed the subway turnstiles. Do they live in a closed down subway?

Ya JUST noticed the turnstiles?? They've been there since the first ep! Yeah They live in a closed down subway. The Shell Raiser (that'll eventually be built by Don) is a souped up subway car.

[NinjaMan]

Ya JUST noticed the turnstiles?? They've been there since the first ep! Yeah They live in a closed down subway. The Shell Raiser (that'll eventually be built by Don) is a souped up subway car.

I'm slow been enjoying the Turtles so much that I wasn't paying attention to the scenery.

[Coola Yagami]

I'll blog about it during the week once my brother saw the episode too. My main complaint is how April was just... kind of... there. No concern over her dad? Why were they just chilling instead of looking for the Kraang? Instead of backflipping through the rooftops they should have mentioned they were looking for The Kraang before the Foot would show up to change things....

I would appreciate a little more consistency... I wouldn't like this episode to end with the threat of the Shredder... and the next ep to be about something else with everything completely forgetting about it.

[Valtus3200]

I'll blog about it during the week once my brother saw the episode too. My main complaint is how April was just... kind of... there. No concern over her dad? Why were they just chilling instead of looking for the Kraang? Instead of backflipping through the rooftops they should have mentioned they were looking for The Kraang before the Foot would show up to change things....

I would appreciate a little more consistency... I wouldn't like this episode to end with the threat of the Shredder... and the next ep to be about something else with everything completely forgetting about it.

While I agree with that, they're still teenagers, so it's possible that they needed to take a break from the search to clear their minds? Unwind?

[CyberCubed]

Did Nick upload this ep on their site yet? I remember last week they had it up a few hours later

[HerpDerp]

Nice IGN review; gives this episode 8/10:
http://au.ign.com/articles/2012/10/13/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-new-friend-old-enemy-review?abthid=5079c93af98ad67f200002bc

[Hieronymus]

There are a lot of old abandon subway tunnels in NY. Enjoying the fact that Shredder has higher ranked clan members, and I think they would make great mutations. They are already skilled ninja so that would be a logical move. In my fan comic "Hieronymus" was one of shredders top students turned evil mutant ninja turtle after losing in battle to Leo. I liked that stealthy sewer fight scene.
When splinter saw the turtles performing that dragon move he had a flash back, and recognized it right away. Kind of reminded me of a scene from the first film, when Shredder was reminded of the past. Just through Tatsu describing to him the turtles fighting style. :trazz:

[Cure]

Did Nick upload this ep on their site yet? I remember last week they had it up a few hours later

Check yourself, man. You have the internet.

[CyberCubed]

Check yourself, man. You have the internet.

I'm on my phone, for some reason the Nick TMNT site doesn't work on it an comes up in broken links.

I can't watch the episode till I get home from work.

[Cure]

Alright, fair enough. I checked JUST FOR YOU and no, it's not up yet.

[Coola Yagami]

While I agree with that, they're still teenagers, so it's possible that they needed to take a break from the search to clear their minds? Unwind?

I dunno... it still kinda reeks of Back to the Sewers when Don seemed to be the ONLY ONE interested in searching for Splinter's data bits and the other Turtles were just chillin and telling him to relax and unwind.

So what if your dad is kidnapped by aliens with weird ooze that might change your dad into a monster... just chill with us, have some pizza and show Mike how the internet works,

[gobo]

"Fighting fair is for losers" is not a very good 'moral of the story'. Finally, this show inspired a sincere LOL from me. Mikey's idea of revenge is awesome. ^_^

[Coola Yagami]

I guess they should have said it more like.... 'fight to win if your life or the life of a loved one is at stake'. I mean a random playground fight should be fair, but like... a serious fight with people out to kill you, then all's fair game.

[Xav]

I like how Mikey actually got to have his revenge on Bradford/Chrissy B/Rad Brad and did so using the same move that Bradford taught him.I kind of wonder something. Why would Brad teach Mikey a real move, and not just a fake one?

[TheCanadiandrome]

go this ep recorded to watch later

[shinefra]

I can't watch it :tcry:

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome episode. Really enjoyed it and felt bad for Mikey when the betrayal was revealed. I also loved Splinter one upping Leo and telling him that victory is more important than worrying about whether a fight is fair or unfair. I can understand where he's coming from because it's more important to try to win than to worry about how many opponents you have. I know Leo will have many more lessons to learn, and I can't wait to see his fight with Xever when it comes up. I have a feeling Xever and Chris are going to continue to hate one another.

I also loved Raph's little talk with Mikey at the end. That was awesome. Can't wait for next week. This show gets better by the week. And that cat looked like my cat, Socks. That made me feel lonesome for him.

Favorite quote:

Splinter: Was that fair?
Leo: No.
Splinter: Did I win?
Leo: Yes.
Splinter: Focus on victory, not on fairness.

[ToTheNines]

Awesome awesome awesome. Too many nice things to say about this, so I'll just leave it to you guys lol.

Continuity note: we're currently in mid-July.

[Cure]

Continuity note: we're currently in mid-July.

Is that a hobby of yours? I'm not trying to be dickish, I'm honestly asking, what with your 4Kids continuity thread and whatnot.

[ToTheNines]

Is that a hobby of yours? I'm not trying to be dickish, I'm honestly asking, what with your 4Kids continuity thread and whatnot.

Lol, yeah. I love nitpicking chronology in fiction.

[Doomsword]

Anyone have a link to the episode from this morning? I didn't get home till it was already over & they aren't replaying it tomorrow like they did last week.

[Kendamu]

I kind of wonder something. Why would Brad teach Mikey a real move, and not just a fake one?

When you're good enough at fighting, you start to notice high percentage movements vs low percentage movements (the latter being less likely to work in real combat). I doubt that Mikey would fall for a BS technique if he's good enough to freestyle it against alien robots.

[shinefra]

Anyone have a link to the episode from this morning? I didn't get home till it was already over & they aren't replaying it tomorrow like they did last week.

Same here :D

[chrisdude]

I'll blog about it during the week once my brother saw the episode too. My main complaint is how April was just... kind of... there. No concern over her dad? Why were they just chilling instead of looking for the Kraang? Instead of backflipping through the rooftops they should have mentioned they were looking for The Kraang before the Foot would show up to change things....

I would appreciate a little more consistency... I wouldn't like this episode to end with the threat of the Shredder... and the next ep to be about something else with everything completely forgetting about it.It does seem weird to have April just hanging out in the lair without even as much as a scene where she first enters it.
This makes me think that:
A. They've broken from production order.
B. The episode where April is first brought into the lair was ditched
or
C. It's assumed that people are so comfortable with the idea of April being a friend, that the powers that be don't feel the need to show her becoming comfortable around the turtles.

Also, I think it's worth noting that Mikey held his own pretty darn well against Xever and Bradford, considering how Bradford served hot slices of pain to everybody else in the alley. Mikey might have done just as well against Bradford the first go 'round, if things hadn't got broken up by Leo and the cops.

ALSO: People seem to waltz right into these episode discussion threads without having seen the show. Do we need to use spoiler tags in these threads, or are they responsible taking that risk?

[Rooish]

Ditto about a link, PM me please if you find one. I didn't see the episode and it's not on iTunes yet.

[Ninjinister]

Hm the ep's not up on the site yet. Peculiar. Guess I'll have to resort to the ol' VCR.

[Xav]

When you're good enough at fighting, you start to notice high percentage movements vs low percentage movements (the latter being less likely to work in real combat). I doubt that Mikey would fall for a BS technique if he's good enough to freestyle it against alien robots.I don't know, Mikey isn't exactly bright.

[Donatello19]

The only thing that I didn't like in the episode was April. After seeing her in their lair, I was expecting her to actually be involved in the episode. It feels like she made a brief cameo. I hope they actually use her more in future episodes

[The Big Bad]

ALSO: People seem to waltz right into these episode discussion threads without having seen the show. Do we need to use spoiler tags in these threads, or are they responsible taking that risk?

The trend here is to not spoiler tag things, although I'd appreciate it if people would. Not everyone makes it a point of checking out all the released info beforehand, so if you're going to speak about details from future episodes (say, if certain characters will mutate into certain other characters) please tag them. Thank you for asking, though! :)

[chrisdude]

The trend here is to not spoiler tag things, although I'd appreciate it if people would. Not everyone makes it a point of checking out all the released info beforehand, so if you're going to speak about details from future episodes (say, if certain characters will mutate into certain other characters) please tag them. Thank you for asking, though! :)I don't like the future episode talk, either. I'm not into the whole analyzing clips and character bios thing. Before the show started was one thing, but now, I don't even like seeing preview clips or synopsis. I'm the guy who cuts the TV off when shows start doing that "Next week, on..." thing.

[Machias Banshee]

The trend here is to not spoiler tag things, although I'd appreciate it if people would. Not everyone makes it a point of checking out all the released info beforehand, so if you're going to speak about details from future episodes (say, if certain characters will mutate into certain other characters) please tag them.

I agree with this sentiment. I know many people have gotten the books and the action figures with the little background stories. Not everyone likes to know these things ahead of time. I'll mention it in my future threads. I think people would appreciate the spoiler tag usage After the show's been aired.. :)

I'M still gonna be a troublemaker, though... ;) I haven't yet had the chance to see the episode yet, so I'm keeping a vigil at the nick site till it's posted.

[Veedubguy83]

Great episode this week! I love this Shredder. Just from seeing him in the few brief clips that we have seen, he seems quite menacing and the voice actor sounds awesome! Can't wait for next weeks episode!

[The Big Bad]

Three/four episodes in, I'm surprised at how much I'm enjoying this series. There's tons of stuff about it that bugs me or that I just plain don't like, and yet, unlike with Generator Rex or the new Thundercats, I sort of don't mind--possibly because I feel that the previous series managed to realize most of its potential, so being disappointed here doesn't seem like such big deal as it was then.

Random thoughts:



When I first saw the preview for the episode, I though that the episode would be about Mikey and Bradford becoming actual friends before realizing they worked for opposite sides, which I was really excited for, since I prefer it when The Foot is portrayed as something other than a group of uniformly evil people. And while that didn't happen--to the episode's detriment, I feel--I at least liked the idea of Bradford being a somewhat famous martial artist. The idea isn't precisely new--Khan in the 4Kids toon had a somewhat similar background, in that he was publicly a martial arts instructor--but it adds some interest to someone who, design aside, isn't terribly compelling yet.


Between its attempts to establish Bradford, teaming him up with someone he didn't like in order to find out more about the turtles, his plan to pursue the turtles' back to their lair, and the Foot's defeat by sewer, this episode was very reminiscent of "The Way of Invisibility", with Bradford in Hun's role. Using that standard, I feel the earlier effort was more successful, since the Foot's plan was more competently executed there, and the resolution to that battle didn't feel quite so...cartoonish.


Xever, the other goon introduced in this episode, initially felt like the most interesting of the two. Although he didn't do much this episode--aside from showing that he's not a slouch himself when it comes to fight--I really hope that something is made out of the idea that he's meant to be the Foot's expert on the subtleties of the New York underworld. Also, although I'm fairly sure it's a coincidence, his character design reminded me a lot of this particular extra from the previous cartoon.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/Perez85/PurpleDragonForever10_zps8c3a617d.jpg


April continues to feel like a background character, and I'm getting the feeling that the writers are going out of their way to not develop her. It could have been the easiest thing in the world to use April's exposition on social networking to say something about her--a casual comment about her friends (of lack thereof) could have done a lot to flesh her out. Given that she continues to be the show's only female character, this is not at all a good thing.


While this Mikey is funnier than the 2k3 Mikey, I'm totally over basing most of his jokes on the idea that he is stupid. I mean, we're almost reaching latter-season Joey (Friends) territory here, and we're only four episodes in.


I'm not sure what to make of Splinter's advice here. Sure, there are times when fairness shouldn't be the overriding concern. However, I would have liked to see him acknowledge how incredibly easy it is to take that policy too far, and what the consequences of doing so are.

[Kendamu]

I don't know, Mikey isn't exactly bright.

But he does have raw athletic talent and actual combat experience. That should be enough when learning skills directly related to combat. Had he never been taught Ninpo or had never been in a fight before, he might not have caught on to an obviously BS technique.

[FoxZerro]

I kind of wonder something. Why would Brad teach Mikey a real move, and not just a fake one?

It was part of his plan. You teach Mikey a move from the Foot and tell him not to show anybody, knowing full well that being the kind of person that he is Mikey will instantly go back and show his brothers. From there their sensei sees them doing moves from the Foot's Playbook and instantly wants to know where they learned the moves of his rival Oroku Saki. This revelation leads the turtles to confront Bradford, where they find Mikey tied up as a clever ruse. Just happy to have their brother back, they proceed to head back home not thinking of who might be following and bam we now know the location of their secret lair.

The only problem was they underestimated the Turtles understanding of Nineties cartoons and assumed that they wouldn't realize the whole sting was actually a trap.

[CyberCubed]

I come home 10 hours later and Nick didn't upload this episode to their website? What the?

[demonsweat]

Wow, this one was great! I don't have much to add that hasn't already been said. I keep coming into these discussions too late. :D

I just want to say I thought it was really cool how Splinter drove home the whole survival thing with Leo. It's so freaking ninja, I love it. And, it's kind of nice to see them deviate from that wholesome bs kid's shows seem to adhere to, that everyone must be a do-gooder no matter the consequences. I mean obviously they won't be cutting down ninjas in the streets or anything, but Splinter was right - there's a big difference between sparring with your brothers and fighting for your life.

There's a dark edge to this show that I have to say I'm really into. To me, that is the essence of the turtles. They've always skated this edge between heroes and anti-heroes, depending on the iteration. Even though it's clearly for a younger crowd, I'm really glad some of that found its way into the new show.

[shuriken]

I liked the episode. Although this Mikey is probably the dumbest incarnation of Mikey ever. But the family dynamic is definitely there and a faux Chuck Norris getting beat up by the TMNT was pretty awesome.

[CyberCubed]

Does anyone know if Nick will upload the episode to their site like they did with the first 3? I was seriously hoping they'd do it all season but I think they won't now due to the people purchasing the episodes in itunes.

Why give people something for free when you can make them pay for it?

[Zulithe]

the show is incredibly popular on itunes... all 3 current eps (101, 102, 103) have full popularity bars... you don't see that on a lot of shows. i purchased a season pass but the disappointing part is you have to wait until Sunday (very early Sunday morning, few minutes after midnight usually, if you are up late) to see the show

[CyberCubed]

I guess I made the mistake in assuming the episodes would always be uploaded online after I come home from work.

Now I gotta wait till tomorrow...if then.

[odupianist]

Of the four episodes, this is the best by far. I was questioning the series, but this episode gives me hope. The final battle scene with them in the sewer really shows how they've come together as a team. I'm still not keen on Mikey's intelligence level. However, Raph's quick reaction to Mikey's predicament was a nice touch.

And, anyone with Dogpound's toy knows how Mr. Bradford will end up.

[Zulithe]

i'm glad people are liking it so much... i have not watched it yet :) waiting for itunes to update in about 2 hours!

[Kendamu]

I'm not too happy with the fact that Nick doesn't have it up yet. I know I'll have it tomorrow, but I've been excited about this pretty much all day at work!

[CyberCubed]

I'm not too happy with the fact that Nick doesn't have it up yet. I know I'll have it tomorrow, but I've been excited about this pretty much all day at work!

I spent all day at work today thinking about how happy I would be when I came home to watch a new Ninja Turtle episode...and I get nothing.

A 10 hour shift at work and I don't even get a TMNT episode to wind down with. God I wish I was a teenager in High School again when I had off Saturday mornings...those were the days...

[Hero]

Well I'm hoping it will be online soon by whatever means ( ;) ), If not, I always have the UK broadcast to view tomorrow.

[Historia]

I liked this episode better then the last one. We have Shredder and some obvious people who know how to fight as his henchmen. Lines that I can't help but laugh at and the fight scene in the sewer :) Raph being a good older brother to Mikey at the end. Very sweet there.

I don't nitpick cartoons on the whole because it is a cartoon and I would go insane if I did so. So I just let it be and I will see what happens. Heck watching the OT, I seen the huh scenes long ago and made comments with my brother and now it is like a Rocky Horror picture show where you insert a few lines in between yourself. Now let me do some dancing in my room :D

[Allio]

I guess I made the mistake in assuming the episodes would always be uploaded online after I come home from work.




Whatcha think this is? the my little pony fandom? fans would have episodes up with in an hour time, two for high quality

[Zulithe]

okay, watched it. strong ep compared to 103. lots and lots of mikey so mike fans should be happy... that is if you like his goofy portrayal in the nick show (which I do) some good fighting, the battle in the sewer was fantastic. it's just a shame that the 30 min format makes everything feel so rushed

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Awesome episode! Although I really liked the previous ones, it was a breath of air fresh not see any mutants or aliens (I think Leo put that nicely:twink:)

Also this episode reminded me of an episode from the OT toon, but for the life of me I can't remember the title. I recall that towards the end Shredder, Bebop, Rocksteady, and some foot soliders are in the sewers searching for the turtles and without Shredder, Bebop, Rocksteady noticing the turtles take out the foot soldiers one by one. Sound familiar to anyone?

[BAXTER STOCKMAN 19]

Awesome episode! So far the best episode of the series!

[Icegaze]

Just watched the episode! Fantastic stuff.
I'm really liking the character-centric episodes in this show because although the main focus is on one turtle (here Mikey) it doesn't completely ignore the other three turtles. Leo, Raph and Donnie all got to be under the limelight for highlighting their skill or developping an aspect of their personality.

Great stuff Nickelodeon. Keep it coming.

PS: Xever is a much cooler character than I expected. Promising.

[chrisdude]

It was part of his plan. You teach Mikey a move from the Foot and tell him not to show anybody, knowing full well that being the kind of person that he is Mikey will instantly go back and show his brothers. From there their sensei sees them doing moves from the Foot's Playbook and instantly wants to know where they learned the moves of his rival Oroku Saki. This revelation leads the turtles to confront Bradford, where they find Mikey tied up as a clever ruse. Just happy to have their brother back, they proceed to head back home not thinking of who might be following and bam we now know the location of their secret lair.

The only problem was they underestimated the Turtles understanding of Nineties cartoons and assumed that they wouldn't realize the whole sting was actually a trap.You don't think that's giving Bradford too muh credit? The plan was to follow them home. But as far as luring his brothers, just tying Mikey up would've done the trick. I figured Bradford really did teach the kata to show trust, so Mike would trust him enough to talk about his sensei.

[Slade]

Just now getting around to posting about the episode. It was pretty good, though I'm starting to think this may be the dumbest version of Mikey to date.

Loved the action in the sewer. Their eyes going white when it's time to fight is pretty cool.


Just some random stuff here, but we own a cat named Mittens and I actually have a cousin named Chris Bradford.

[Filespit]

I really enjoyed this episode, we got to see the turtles in real tactical action. I especially liked the part where they sneaked into Chris lair stealth style. It still disturbs me a bit though how, in this case, Mikey thinks Chris will accept him right away because they're online friends. Although they had already "met" while they were fighting turtles against foot, Mikey simply states they're friends online and all of a sudden everything's cool between them - the fact that he's a mutant turtle is no big deal, no no of course not! I'm not complaining about it but I just find it funny how they're not that careful about not showing themselves to humans. Despite this, I'm loving the show so far. It's funny, got great action scenes and is well produced.

[PhatRam32]

Any ratings up for this episode?

[Ninjinister]

Whatcha think this is? the my little pony fandom? fans would have episodes up with in an hour time, two for high quality

Nickelodeon themselves had uploaded the previous two episodes the same day. I don't think it was unreasonable to expect lightning to strike a third time in this regard.

[HerpDerp]

Any ratings up for this episode?

Not until Tuesday.

[FoxZerro]

You don't think that's giving Bradford too muh credit? The plan was to follow them home. But as far as luring his brothers, just tying Mikey up would've done the trick. I figured Bradford really did teach the kata to show trust, so Mike would trust him enough to talk about his sensei.

I do not think so. I think that when you have Mikey say "I promise I won't show a soul" then cut to Mikey showing his Brothers, it feels like he knew all along that Mike would show his brothers. In fact the only reason the other turtles show up at Bradford's Dojo is because Splinter identifies the kata and tells them where it came from, leading them to realize Mikey is in trouble.

If all that evidence isn't enough then the fact that Bradford actually says "All part of the trap" after tying up and not killing Michelangelo, cements it was his master plan all along

[Anarchistguy]

I have to say I'm quite happy with this show. This version of Splinter and the Turtles don't seem to follow the code of Bushido, thank God :D

[Jester]

It's that time again:
*Yea! Clancy Bradford!
*Someone's been watching a lot of Aladdin. Seriously, Street Rat?
*So Shredder and Splinter were old war buddies. Is that where the Splinter nickname, that Bradford seems to know, came from.
*Ninja Tag goodness...
*Seen it...I mean, look the Mittens scene.
*I'll be back after I've watched it at least once...

[chrisdude]

I do not think so. I think that when you have Mikey say "I promise I won't show a soul" then cut to Mikey showing his Brothers, it feels like he knew all along that Mike would show his brothers. In fact the only reason the other turtles show up at Bradford's Dojo is because Splinter identifies the kata and tells them where it came from, leading them to realize Mikey is in trouble.

If all that evidence isn't enough then the fact that Bradford actually says "All part of the trap" after tying up and not killing Michelangelo, cements it was his master plan all alongI'm just saying, they didn't need to be lured in by a kata. They would've gone after Mikey if he simply didn't come home.

[shinefra]

Very nice episode, much better than fighting a Mutant every week

[The Stryker]

So you're actually going around advertising that you have links to full episodes.

What fans! Pirating the show instead of actually supporting it! You guys are the real heroes.

[shinefra]

So you're actually going around advertising that you have links to full episodes.

What fans! Pirating the show instead of actually supporting it! You guys are the real heroes.

I’m not pirating anything, there are lots of ways to Support a show like buying the toys and DVDs, and guess what? the DVD isn’t out yet or is it?

Not all of us have the oportuniy to watch the show in its original day time.

[The Stryker]

Thats no excuse. Buy the episode on itunes. Wait for the dvd to come out. Nick's website or Amazon. You don't just pirate the damn thing.

And yes it is pirating. It's also against the rules of the forum.

[shinefra]

Thats no excuse. Buy the episode on itunes. Wait for the dvd to come out. Nick's website or Amazon. You don't just pirate the damn thing.

And yes it is pirating. It's also against the rules of the forum.

Yeah every time you share a file some billionaire company like Viacom goes bankrupt.

But ok im going to stick by the rules of the forum.

[The Stryker]

It's still sh*tty for "fans" to do things like what you're doing.

Nothing about big companies or whatever garbage you use to justify it. YOU CAN WATCH IT FOR FREE ON THEIR WEBSITE.

[sykosis]

I don't see anything wrong with torrenting, but ethics aside its quite off topic and download links are against the rules and should be the valid argument

[shinefra]

YOU CAN WATCH IT FOR FREE ON THEIR WEBSITE.

No I can't because Nick has regional restriction :roll:

But whatever man im not sharing anymore, happy now?

[GameMachineJames]

YOU CAN WATCH IT FOR FREE ON THEIR WEBSITE.

Except. I can't. I've bought Splinter, April, all 4 Turtles, and Metalhead. nick hasn't posted the episode on their website. I don't -HAVE- iTunes. And i have DirecTV, so no viacom networks at all.

Where's MY recourse? "Keep circulating the tapes"

I'm not justifying ****, but when's the last time a TV show aired with a "don't record this and show it to people." disclaimer? They don't.

Will this stop me from buying the DVD's? Hell no. Nothing beats a good DVD boxset. Will this give me a chance to watch the episode when I have no other options yet? Why yes, yes it does.

[HerpDerp]

And i have DirecTV, so no viacom networks at all.


Wait ... I thought that got resolved months ago?

[Cure]

It sure did. Seems like dude just wants to justify piracy, even if it means lying.

[Jephael]

Xever, the other goon introduced in this episode, initially felt like the most interesting of the two. Although he didn't do much this episode--aside from showing that he's not a slouch himself when it comes to fight--I really hope that something is made out of the idea that he's meant to be the Foot's expert on the subtleties of the New York underworld. Also, although I'm fairly sure it's a coincidence, his character design reminded me a lot of this particular extra from the previous cartoon.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/Perez85/PurpleDragonForever10_zps8c3a617d.jpg

I was thinking the same thing about the way he looks. Maybe someone in the designing team really enjoyed Turtles Forever.

[Icegaze]

My favourite line of the episode was from Leo.


Mikey (after performing his absurd "Secret kata"; whispers) - But don't tell anyone you saw that.
Leo (straight face) - No problem.


The delivery was top notch. I'm loving Jason Biggs' voice acting in this series. My favourite thus far (Hoon Lee and Sean Astin being my 2 other favourites). :D

[shinefra]

About Mikey I don't know what to think, is he retarded or very innocent?

Do yu guys like him better than other incarnations of Mikey?

My favourite line of the episode was from Leo.


Mikey (after performing his absurd "Secret kata"; whispers) - But don't tell anyone you saw that.
Leo (straight face) - No problem.


The delivery was top notch. I'm loving Jason Biggs' voice acting in this series. My favourite thus far (Hoon Lee and Sean Astin being my 2 other favourites). :D

Is this the first time Jason Biggs has done voice acting? because I also think he is pretty good!!

[TurtleTitan97]

About Mikey I don't know what to think, is he retarded or very innocent?

Do yu guys like him better than other incarnations of Mikey?


I like this Mikey much more that the 2k3 version. And no, I don't find him retarded.

[GameMachineJames]

It sure did. Seems like dude just wants to justify piracy, even if it means lying.

I don't need to justify it when I openly download TV shows every week. if someone wants to send me a C&D i'll stop, otherwise... I'll do what I do, and if it proves to be illegal, someone will let me know by threatening legal action.

Meanwhile, I just realized that the Viacom networks were removed from my channels list during the mess and I had forgotten to re-add them... grrr... I really need to get one of the newer DirecTV boxes... one of he ones that automatically adds "new channels" instead of forcing me to add them manually...

Anyways. Having now watched the episode I can safely say that, it seems like spliner took his new name long before he became a Rat. If he was in hiding in America building a new life, then yeah. It makes sense he'd change his name. nothing says the Foot couldn't have learned it... And then later lost track of him when the Kraang literally forced him to move into a sewer to hide his new form.

If I was looking for a Japanese guy in Japan. I wouldn't suddenly be looking for a Rat living in a sewer in NYC. It's just not much of a logical thing to do.

Liking that Splinter has been telling the Turtles about Shredder and his betrayal heir whole life, instead of just springing it on them after Shredder appears like 2k3 Splinter did.

It makes sense that April would be hanging around the Sewer den. If it's summer, as earlier stated in this thread... Then she's literally got ALL DAY to herself. If I had awesome Mutant ninja friends, I'd want to spend my summers chilling with them.

Mikey is a cat lover! hooray! He's so freaking adorable in this series. Can't help but like him. Especially when he whups an international martial-arts superstar with his own signature move! I personally like it when Mikey is depicted as competent.

Nice to see Raph NOT being a hothead. The "Brothers" story really does seem to fit with how they act and react to one another.

Splinter and Leo's exchange was... interesting. The Turtles have ALWAYS played heroic roles. "Turtles fight with honor!" etc... But it grounds it in an eerie sort of realism when you remember, Splinter isn't teaching the Turtles the art of invisibility just so they can be superheroes. His role is to teach his sons to fight TO SURVIVE. I think the "Chase victory at all costs!" lesson is very solidly placed here.

Nice to see them emerging from the water. They may be, genetically, half-Human. But they ARE still Turtles. It's not shocking at all to think they can last underwater for extended periods of time. The 2k3 series was especially fond of overlooking this, giving them (awesome-looking, admittedly) SCUBA equipment and having them nearly-drown from time to time. On top of that, they're ninjas. Trained to keep their metabolism down even in the heat of battle.

Wow, kind of a long episode-rant huh?

Loved Mikey NOM NOM NOMing on the magazine. I'd love to get an animated .gif of that scene. Raph's "You -ARE- an idiot!" line had me in stitches. All in all, a VERY strong episode. It moved the Foot plot forward, set up plo bunnies for future battles... I loved every moment!

[Icegaze]

About Mikey I don't know what to think, is he retarded or very innocent?

Do yu guys like him better than other incarnations of Mikey?


I am warming up to this Mikey. He is very vibrant and all but I just cannot get over how genuinely "stupid" they make him to be in this series. I hope he will outgrow this act by the end of this season. So far, I prefer 2k3 Mikey (my favourite version of Mikey in the franchise).

How did you guys like the soundtrack that played when Leo, Raph and Don were on the roof top on their way to save Mikey? Excellent stuff. Probably the most memorable OST so far. Wish it would play longer.

[shinefra]

I also love the way the turtles got al stealth and had the advantage in their home turf, Just like real freaking ninjas not like in the 80s series.

The battle mode no eyes in themask thingy is also very awesome.

[HerpDerp]

Loved Mikey NOM NOM NOMing on the magazine. I'd love to get an animated .gif of that scene.

From TMNTmaster's tumblr:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbstjsj45A1r2nvplo1_500.gif

[NinjaMan]

I loved the little hand thing Raph and Leo did on the rooftop.

[Jester]

I like this Mikey much more that the 2k3 version. And no, I don't find him retarded.
I still chalk that up to naivete.

It's that time again:
*Yea! Clancy Bradford!
*Someone's been watching a lot of Aladdin. Seriously, Street Rat?
*So Shredder and Splinter were old war buddies. Is that where the Splinter nickname, that Bradford seems to know, came from.
*Ninja Tag goodness...
*Seen it...I mean, look the Mittens scene.
ROUND 2... FIGHT!
*Dark Underbelly, eh? Does this mean Purple Dragons?
*Diggin' Bradford's "elite" ninja get up. Almost better than Shredder's actual threads.
*Raph's "No Flip" roof jumping trick seems simple, but effective.
*I'll admit. The "Are you an idiot?" bit makes me chuckle every time.
*Where did Mittens owner go when the cat attacked Mikey?
*Love the "Fling the cat into trashcans" folly effects.
*Chuck Bradford...no....Chris Norris...no...
*I now want a Patty Man Hamburger.
*New favorite Donnie line:
"And maybe I'll show him my secret kata, 'The Secret Kata!'"
"Catchy!"
*Noisy ninjas are easy to ambush.
*Wow...CG can have animation glitches too? Check Leo's katanas in both his hands and his scabbards at around 6:50.
*Love Leo's explanation about why he's happy to be fighting the Foot and not "robots, or aliens, or weed monsters." :D
*Love the "Seek victory, not fairness." moral...though I'm sure in the "Everyone Gets a Trophy" generation that might be a lost moral.
*Anyone catch the Karate Kid reference on the cover of Mikey's magazine?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/vlcsnap-2012-10-14-14h08m29s94.png
SWEET!
*Is the Turn-style a harken back to the movie/Next Mutation lair?
*New favorite Raph line:
"That guy can rock a ha-kama." (is that spelled right?)
"Maybe he'll wear it again when he takes you to the prom..."
*New favorite Leo line:
"Actually I'd rather talk about anything else..."
*New...uh...new fave Don line:
"Like the concept of the silent W, perhaps."
*Takes a bit to discover the secrets of Yoshi's new clan, eh Chrisy-B?
*Hey...look a Purple Dragon tag.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/vlcsnap-2012-10-14-14h21m09s113.png
*Clancy's delivery of "Oh, I can't imagine why [the Turtles don't respect Mikey]." was classic.
*"He wants to get together for a little b-ball. Can't wait to find out what the "b" stands for."
*Love the look on Splinter's face as he sees the boys practicing Bradford's (and Saki's) secret kata.
*"No...it can't be...you're...the guy with the cat!?"
*Lovin' Donnie's makeshift glass cutter.
*Do the Foot's eye pieces have infra-red?
*Also lovin' Donnie's ober-geekyness. "That's not what that [sporadic] means!"
*The old "take the bad guys out from behind while they advance through the sewers bit." I remember that FW episode! (Which episode was that again?)
*Gotta admit, this fight scene is much more "ninja-y" than the previous alley fight.
*"I'm curious, any of you ever heard the expression 'Fair Fight'?"
*They are getting a lot of use out of that one CG pizza model.
*Why does Bradford's MyFace page have a picture of Snake Weed?
*OH NO! Mikey unfriended Bradford. The inhumanity!

[TurtleTitan97]

I loved the little hand thing Raph and Leo did on the rooftop.

Same here. I laughed abit when I saw them do that.

I still chalk that up to naivete.
Agreed.


*Anyone catch the Karate Kid reference on the cover of Mikey's magazine?
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/vlcsnap-2012-10-14-14h08m29s94.png
SWEET!



That's so cool.:tgrin:

[Keno]

The delivery was top notch. I'm loving Jason Biggs' voice acting in this series. My favourite thus far (Hoon Lee and Sean Astin being my 2 other favourites). :D[/QUOTE]

I'm actually really really impressed with his voice acting. It's spot-on. He really captures Leo. I keep forgetting it's really Jason doing it!

[Keno]

About Mikey I don't know what to think, is he retarded or very innocent?


I think he's just....the younger, goofy brother with too much energy and low attention span.

[Turns]

This was the best episode yet! I hope future episodes are this good.

[NinjaMan]

I think he's just....the younger, goofy brother with too much energy and low attention span.

Yeah that's how I view him. He makes me laugh. I'm really liking him. Glad he got to whip Norris.. I mean Bradford at the end.

[MikeandRaph87]

Check this out,guys:

http://www.youngsamurai.com/site/YOUN/Templates/General.aspx?pageid=11&cc=GB

Is this a coincidence or did that take the name of this British martial artist for the Dogpound character?

[NinjaMan]

Check this out,guys:

http://www.youngsamurai.com/site/YOUN/Templates/General.aspx?pageid=11&cc=GB

Is this a coincidence or did that take the name of this British martial artist for the Dogpound character?

LOL oh wow!

[MST3KFan]

This episode STILL isn't on Nick's webpage? Tch. Figures. Here I thought they were going to be awesome and show every episode on their site as they came out. Figured that would be too good to be true.

Guess I'll be waiting for the DVD now. :roll:

[CyberCubed]

One small gripe I had was we didn't see enough of the Foot fighting. Most of the action was against Chris and Xever.

Hopefully we get more Foot fights soon.

[HerpDerp]

This episode STILL isn't on Nick's webpage? Tch. Figures. Here I thought they were going to be awesome and show every episode on their site as they came out. Figured that would be too good to be true.

Guess I'll be waiting for the DVD now. :roll:

It's only been ONE day, give them a chance.

[Icegaze]

PS: Xever is a much cooler character than I expected. Promising.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbwkvy7YYD1raykwto2_250.gif

Dat thug. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/112hqmv.png

[TurtleTitan97]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbwkvy7YYD1raykwto2_250.gif

Dat thug. http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/nfforums/112hqmv.png

That is a cool gif. :) Anyway, I agree. Xever really impressed me in the episode, and I was even more suprised by how he was actually able to go toe-to-toe with the turtles.:tcool:

[NinjaMan]

That is a cool gif. :) Anyway, I agree. Xever really impressed me in the episode, and I was even more suprised by how he was actually able to go toe-to-toe with the turtles.:tcool:

Agreed he surprised me as well. I like the banter between him and Bradford. Should be interesting when they get mutated.

[shinefra]

Agreed he surprised me as well. I like the banter between him and Bradford. Should be interesting when they get mutated.

No god please no!!

[NinjaMan]

No god please no!!

Hate to disappoint but the Dogpound toy confirms him as Chris Bradford.

[TurtleTitan97]

No god please no!!

Hate to disappoint but the Dogpound toy confirms him as Chris Bradford.

Not to mention Xever will become Fishface.

[NinjaMan]

Not to mention Xever will become Fishface.

Yeah forgot to put that in there lol.

[shinefra]

Not to mention Xever will become Fishface.

darn it :P

[sdp]

I didn't find Chris Bradford that interesting, especially since he was the first "big bad" so to speak from the foot and they dispose of him. Also the foot didn't seem as big of a threat like in 2k3 when they first show up. The way they dispose of them was rather OT and feels weird in this day and age for them to get rid of villains like that.

Mikey and Raph acted the same as their 2k3 counterparts, I didn't like that they feel so similar to 2k3, at least it's toned down and I hope they don't become the parodies they became in 2k3. I kept hearing beast boy in this episode too, i would occasionally hear him in the past episodes but here it was all episode long, maybe because it was a Mikey focused episode.

[The Big Bad]

Guys, not everyone trawls action figure aisles looking for spoilers; if you're going to talk about developments that take place in future episodes, please spoiler tag them.

[demonsweat]

How did you guys like the soundtrack that played when Leo, Raph and Don were on the roof top on their way to save Mikey? Excellent stuff. Probably the most memorable OST so far. Wish it would play longer.

I loved it. Really hoping for a soundtrack release at some point.


I loved the little hand thing Raph and Leo did on the rooftop.

Yeah, that was tight. Those little moments between them are a nice touch. Even at the end of that scene, when Leo cuts Mikey loose and gives him a little rub on the head... little gestures like that speak volumes.

[NinjaMan]

I loved it. Really hoping for a soundtrack release at some point.




Yeah, that was tight. Those little moments between them are a nice touch. Even at the end of that scene, when Leo cuts Mikey loose and gives him a little rub on the head... little gestures like that speak volumes.

Yeah that head rub by Leo really was nice to see. The brotherhood between the 4 of them is really done well and IMO the best of all the series.

[odupianist]

Thats no excuse. Buy the episode on itunes. Wait for the dvd to come out. Nick's website or Amazon. You don't just pirate the damn thing.

And yes it is pirating. It's also against the rules of the forum.

Um how do you know they won't also buy the DVD later on? There is plenty of shows I've seen online that I still go out and buy the DVD. So don't be so quick to judge there.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Um how do you know they won't also buy the DVD later on? There is plenty of shows I've seen online that I still go out and buy the DVD. So don't be so quick to judge there.

If I steal a couch, but buy the exact same type of couch later on, am I a thief?

:tcouch:

[shinefra]

If I steal a couch, but buy the exact same type of couch later on, am I a thief?

:tcouch:

You can't compare a couch with a download, if you dowload something the company dosen't loose because its just a digital copy a couch on the other hand its not the same item.

[Rooish]

Finally saw it!

Very cute episode. I do like the relationships between the Turtles. I do wish Raph was a bit less mean to Mikey... I mean Mikey said in this episode that they don't respect him. Very 2k3-esque relationship between Raph and Mikey. Still, I think this Mikey is a little nicer and funnier so I'm liking him better. I don't like April being totally shafted (I guess she's not a human friend?).

Splinter continues to kick butt. He is not the most nurturing father is he?

People please stop spoilering who will get mutated into what.

[MikeandRaph87]

Finally saw it!

Very cute episode. I do like the relationships between the Turtles. I do wish Raph was a bit less mean to Mikey... I mean Mikey said in this episode that they don't respect him. Very 2k3-esque relationship between Raph and Mikey. Still, I think this Mikey is a little nicer and funnier so I'm liking him better. I don't like April being totally shafted (I guess she's not a human friend?).

Splinter continues to kick butt. He is not the most nurturing father is he?

People please stop spoilering who will get mutated into what.

Rooish,I understand where you are coming from,but I think its obivious who will mutate into what.

I loved the '87 cartoon interaction of Michelangelo adn Raphael hence my screenname. Its a bit disappointing that its derived from the 2003 cartoon instead. Mike the airhead and Raph the bully.:tgrumble: Anyone want to see the '87 cartoon Mike and Raph dynamic again?

[Jester]

The Fish Face and Dog Pound box backs have been posted for weeks. It's practically common knowledge by now.

[chrisdude]

You can't compare a couch with a download, if you dowload something the company dosen't loose because its just a digital copy a couch on the other hand its not the same item.This is dumb.

If Nickelodeon wants to post some episodes for free, to entice you, then stop, presumably to encourage you to buy the downloads or wait for the DVD, that's their prerogative. It's their property.
Regional restrictions? Can't buy it where you live? There are legal reasons behind that. Tough break. Buy a DVR. Buy a VCR. There are no laws declaring that you have the right to watch any show whenever and however you please.

The point is, lack of availability or convenience does not change the fact that you are obtaining a product that took work and money to to produce, by means not intended by the owner. If they wanted to post every episode for free download, they could easily do so.

You're pirating. We know that. You know that. Whether you think it's morally wrong is your opinion. How much, if any, financial loss you cause is indeterminable. But it is piracy, and that's really not up for debate.

Let's move past this.

[sdp]

I have kept spoiler free and haven't read any card backs, they are still spoilers even if they've been out for a while. Just because a movie script leaks doesn't mean it's ok to post spoilers about it before the movie comes out without warning because it's been out for weeks. That's why we have spoiler boxes.

[Machias Banshee]

This is dumb.

If Nickelodeon wants to post some episodes for free, to entice you, then stop, presumably to encourage you to buy the downloads or wait for the DVD, that's their prerogative. It's their property.
Regional restrictions? Can't buy it where you live? There are legal reasons behind that. Tough break. Buy a DVR. Buy a VCR. There are no laws declaring that you have the right to watch any show whenever and however you please.

The point is, lack of availability or convenience does not change the fact that you are obtaining a product that took work and money to to produce, by means not intended by the owner. If they wanted to post every episode for free download, they could easily do so.

You're pirating. We know that. You know that. Whether you think it's morally wrong is your opinion. How much, if any, financial loss you cause is indeterminable. But it is piracy, and that's really not up for debate.

Let's move past this.


And the other thing about the pirating.... if it's found on this forum, this entire website goes bye-bye. THAT is why we have a no pirating/download/torrent link/etc rule...

[shinefra]

This is dumb.

If Nickelodeon wants to post some episodes for free, to entice you, then stop, presumably to encourage you to buy the downloads or wait for the DVD, that's their prerogative. It's their property.
Regional restrictions? Can't buy it where you live? There are legal reasons behind that. Tough break. Buy a DVR. Buy a VCR. There are no laws declaring that you have the right to watch any show whenever and however you please.

The point is, lack of availability or convenience does not change the fact that you are obtaining a product that took work and money to to produce, by means not intended by the owner. If they wanted to post every episode for free download, they could easily do so.

You're pirating. We know that. You know that. Whether you think it's morally wrong is your opinion. How much, if any, financial loss you cause is indeterminable. But it is piracy, and that's really not up for debate.

Let's move past this.

So if I download an episode and show it to my friend it’s Piracy? But If record an episode and show it to Friend it’s not Piracy? Sounds like the same thing to me.

By this I'm not trying to change your minds but come on!! Some of you people Judge others like you where the only people on the internet who haven't downloaded anything in your entire life’s. It's like where back to witch-hunt. Death by burning!!

But I agree Let's move past this and talk about the tv show.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

So if I download an episode and show it to my friend it’s Piracy? But If record an episode and show it to Friend it’s not Piracy? Sounds like the same thing to me.

By this I'm not trying to change your minds but come on!! Some of you people Judge others like you where the only people on the internet who haven't downloaded anything in your entire life’s. It's like where back to witch-hunt. Death by burning!!

But I agree Let's move past this and talk about the tv show.

If you'd wanted to move past this you wouldn't have replied. :ohwell:

[Kevin G]

Sorry I'm late for the party, but here are my two cents:

I thought this was a very good episode. I liked this episode a lot more then episode # 3 Turtle Temper.

I have a quick question though, is Xever suppose to be black or Hispanic ? The character clearly looks black and it states it on TMTNPedia, but when I heard Xever speak, it sounded like the voice actor (Christopher Lanz) was giving him a Hispanic accent. Either or I really like Xever so far in his human form, as well as Chris Bradford. I doubt we will get action figures of them before they become Dogpound and Fishface respectfully.

I thought Clancy Brown did a phenomenal job voicing Chris (when doesn't Clancy Brown do a phenomenal job at anything ?) I love how his suit was very reminiscent of the 1984 Shredder comic book outfit.

I felt bad for Michelangelo. I know it's a cartoon and all but he really wanted a human friend (other then April) and really looked up to Chris and was hurtfully betrayed. Okay guys, your among friends, we all know you have soft spots lol.

I laughed so hard when they showed Donatello's laptop with the picture of April eating a pizza. I really wanted to her to say something, as an a awkward moment, but they executed the scene just fine with him exiting it out really quickly.

So I guess it's safe to say that in this incarnation, whenever the Turtles get ready for a showdown, their eyes are clear white and their pupils appear. I actually think that's pretty sick as it makes the scene more badass.

I loved how the Foot Clan were hanging form the sewers. I doubt very much Ciro was influenced by this, but that scene reminded me a lot of what Freddy Krueger did in the 2010 remake to his victims. He hanged their corpses in the boiler room.


Has anyone seen the preview for episode 5 ? As soon as the end credits to episode were over, they aired Kung Fu Panda: Legends of Awesomeness.

[Rooish]

Rooish,I understand where you are coming from,but I think its obivious who will mutate into what.

Lol I'm not the smartest. I see the mutants in the title sequence but naively don't assume that every new Shredder henchman will become a mutant.

I loved the '87 cartoon interaction of Michelangelo adn Raphael hence my screenname. Its a bit disappointing that its derived from the 2003 cartoon instead. Mike the airhead and Raph the bully.:tgrumble: Anyone want to see the '87 cartoon Mike and Raph dynamic again?

Lol, I liked them too, but it was still a bit of Mike the airhead and Raph the bully. But it was gentler in the old show.

Sorry guys, I think the pirating stuff is partly my fault, I asked someone to PM me a link--is that allowed on here? And just so everyone feels better I'll go buy it from iTunes now. I agree we should support the show.

[NinjaMan]

Lol I'm not the smartest. I see the mutants in the title sequence but naively don't assume that every new Shredder henchman will become a mutant.



Lol, I liked them too, but it was still a bit of Mike the airhead and Raph the bully. But it was gentler in the old show.

Sorry guys, I think the pirating stuff is partly my fault, I asked someone to PM me a link--is that allowed on here? And just so everyone feels better I'll go buy it from iTunes now. I agree we should support the show.

The PSN store has the episodes as well if you have a PS3.

[Dirty Blond]

Why doesn't nick upload this episode already?

[Machias Banshee]

Well, if the person that usually does that was involved with NYCC, it's gonna take time for them to get it up. We just gotta be patient... :)

[Coola Yagami]

I guess another small gripe is how easy the Foot went down. Other than landing a few hits here and there in their first fight... they basically went down like chumps. Shredder and Chris really suck at training their people.

[Allio]

better than last week's episode

loved the Kamen Rider reference

[Kevin G]

I guess another small gripe is how easy the Foot went down. Other than landing a few hits here and there in their first fight... they basically went down like chumps. Shredder and Chris really suck at training their people.

Are these robotic foot soldiers or are these people dressed as the foot ? I could have sworn I heard a robotic sound when one of there eyes moved.

[Cowabunga Carl]

Finally saw it and have to say it was great. Nice episode all around. Plus it was nice that there was no mutation this time around. Get to know the characters a little bit before that happens.

I think it is silly people are upset about finding out that these guys are the mutants Shredder uses. Really people he has two henchmutants and here are two guys who work for him and are his lackeys. Kind of self evident to me.

[rav4ge]

This episode was okay, some solid funny bits in there. The whole thing just lacked build up though, so when the final fight scene rolled around I was just like, "okay." Didn't feel very meaningful or anything, it just kinda happened.

That "Xever" dude is like the lamest villain I've seen in a while. Good god is he underdeveloped, and I mean design-wise. The second he came on-screen I groaned a little. Lanky black guy with an afro in Japan? Seriously, that's the best you can do?

On the positive, I really liked the hostage scene - lots of slick stylization there, something I'm definitely going to be craving to see in future episodes. When the Turtles lose their pupils, you know sh*t's gonna go down. I love that.

Chris Bradford was cool looking in the ninja get-up. At first I thought he was like, Shredder junior or something.

[Cure]

Lanky black guy with an afro in Japan? Seriously, that's the best you can do?[/SPOILER]

They weren't in Japan.

[rav4ge]

They weren't in Japan.Oh, right, they're in New York now. The dojo setting threw me off.

Still, he remains a lanky black dude with an afro. Lame.

[CyberCubed]

Still, he remains a lanky black dude with an afro. Lame.

What do you want him to be? A muscle bound black dude with a shaved head?

And no purple mohawks, that's Bebop's territory.

[rav4ge]

What do you want him to be? A muscle bound black dude with a shaved head?

And no purple mohawks, that's Bebop's territory.Just something believable and not entirely forgettable. His appearance wouldn't have been a problem if they had made something about this character compelling, but they didn't. He's a kickboxing henchman guy with a switchblade he never uses, so... that's it? Just left me confused.

Bebop and Rocksteady were awesome because they were idiots and the writers wrote them in at such. This Xever dude is just comes across as inherently unlikable.

[CyberCubed]

Just something believable and not entirely forgettable. His appearance wouldn't have been a problem if they had made something about this character compelling, but they didn't. He's a kickboxing henchman guy with a switchblade he never uses, so... that's it? Just left me confused.

Bebop and Rocksteady were awesome because they were idiots and the writers wrote them in at such. This Xever dude is just comes across as inherently unlikable.

He's going to be mutated soon. I don't see what the problem is.

[rav4ge]

He's going to be mutated soon. I don't see what the problem is.Really? Well, then problem solved. I had no idea.

[CyberCubed]

Really? Well, then problem solved. I had no idea.

Pretty much every human they introduce will probably become a mutant...it's rather obvious at this point.

[rav4ge]

Pretty much every human they introduce will probably become a mutant...it's rather obvious at this point.Mitten's owner seems to be fine. But yeah, I see your point.

Now I'll be patiently awaiting for Xever to be horribly mutated into something more memorable and interesting. Man, am I going to enjoy watching that. Thanks for the heads-up, dude!

[Powder]

Odds are Xever is going to be Fishface, man. Besides, we had generic characters like that in the beginning of the 2k3 series too, in the Purple Dragons. No big deal. Just some disposable brutes to knock around here & there.

[kzekedaurus]

I wish I may, I wish I might,
see this episode uploaded
by tomorrow night!

C'mon, lucky stars-- don't fail me now!

[CyberCubed]

You can watch it if you search hard enough.

[Route77]

I have a quick question though, is Xever suppose to be black or Hispanic ? The character clearly looks black and it states it on TMTNPedia, but when I heard Xever speak, it sounded like the voice actor (Christopher Lanz) was giving him a Hispanic accent. Either or I really like Xever so far in his human form, as well as Chris Bradford.

Xever is both black and Latino. He's Brazilian.
Hence his Capoeira fighting style and his accent, as voiced by Latino voice actor Christian Lanz.

[Kevin G]

Xever is both black and Latino. He's Brazilian.
Hence his Capoeira fighting style and his accent, as voiced by Latino voice actor Christian Lanz.

Awesome, thank you Route77 :)

[BubblyShell22]

I don't think Xever is boring at all. I think he's awesome so far, and I can't wait to see his showdown with Leo in ep 8. That should make for some interesting development.

[TurtleTitan97]

Xever is both black and Latino. He's Brazilian.
Hence his Capoeira fighting style and his accent, as voiced by Latino voice actor Christian Lanz.

Thanks for telling us, dude.

I don't think Xever is boring at all. I think he's awesome so far, and I can't wait to see his showdown with Leo in ep 8. That should make for some interesting development.

Same here. I can't wait to see Leo vs. Xever.:tsmile:

[Ninjinister]

Xever is both black and Latino. He's Brazilian.


Is this just an educated guess or....?

[VaughnMichael]

Is this just an educated guess or....?
Did you hear his voice?
That was the one thing I didn't like about the episode, it really threw me off.

I thought everything else was great and Mikey for the first time is my favorite turtle.
I'm really loving everything though, even with the inconsistency with April, and Shredder.

[Ninjinister]

Did you hear his voice?
That was the one thing I didn't like about the episode, it really threw me off.


He didn't say enough for me to catch whether he was Brazilian. He did have a noticeable accent, but I wasn't able to place it.

I mean the guy could be Peruvian for all I know.

[CyberCubed]

Does it really matter what he is? Some people can be mixed.

You want a regular black guy, we have Baxter Stockman next week. I just hope to god we see Bebop eventually...to fill out the remaining black-villain quota.

[Teddy]

I'm enjoying the seperate threads for each episode as they air! I know you guys did this when the 2K3 series came out, but I wasn't around the forum back then and didn't get to enjoy that aspect.

ANYWAY, just wanted to say I'm really enjoying this series and this episode was great! I'm not a huge Mikey fan, but I still enjoyed the other dynamics going on. Awesome fight scenes and the cute little brotherly fluff every once in awhile. It's nice this show can actually get some good laughs out of me here and there, too. :tgrin:

[VaughnMichael]

He didn't say enough for me to catch whether he was Brazilian. He did have a noticeable accent, but I wasn't able to place it.

I mean the guy could be Peruvian for all I know.
Whatever the place the Accent does not fit the face. :P
Does it really matter what he is? Some people can be mixed.

You want a regular black guy, we have Baxter Stockman next week. I just hope to god we see Bebop eventually...to fill out the remaining black-villain quota.
I guess it doesn't and the voice will more than likely fit his Fishy new form better anyway.

[Ninjinister]

My point was, is this new guy that dropped this knowledge on us somehow part of the production team or did he just put 2 and 2 and 2 together and get 6?

[Coola Yagami]

My point was, is this new guy that dropped this knowledge on us somehow part of the production team or did he just put 2 and 2 and 2 together and get 6?

I think the back of the action figures already tell you who mutated into who...

[Zany Orange Dude]

I thought the episode was pretty good. Nice to see some more of the Foot Clan.

[In The Clouds]

BubblyShell, are you excited for episode 8?
:P

[Ninjinister]

I think the back of the action figures already tell you who mutated into who...

That has nothing to do with what I said at all.

[Xav]

*Dark Underbelly, eh? Does this mean Purple Dragons?Maybe
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/TurtleTitan97/StreetGang.png
I just hope to god we see Bebop eventually...to fill out the remaining black-villain quota. There's a black-villain quota?

[marcelangelo]

Does it really matter what he is? Some people can be mixed.

You want a regular black guy, we have Baxter Stockman next week. I just hope to god we see Bebop eventually...to fill out the remaining black-villain quota.

'regular black guy'..'black-villain quota'...in what of a stupid **** world are we living if you were serious about these things!!...

[marcelangelo]

Maybe
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p534/TurtleTitan97/StreetGang.png
There's a black-villain quota?

if you didn't catch that in this weeks episode(new friend, old enemy) in the scene where mike and rad brad are sitting on that roof top eating pizza there is a graffiti masterpiece in the background that says purple and it features a giant purple dragon;)
i like how there are hints of these groups in the show already...really nicely done!...
people here said there was a casey jones tag n the first episode in the alley somewhere but I haven't seen that so far..only an image that captured a casey jones tag in the motion comic,but in the show I couldn't see caseys sin anywhere..

[shinefra]

the cute little brotherly fluff every once in awhile. It's nice this show can actually get some good laughs out of me here and there, too. :tgrin:

Like they said before the turtles act more like teens but also they act a little bit more human.

Raph an Leo have their issues but still they are brothers and get along some times.

[Sage Ninja]

I missed the fitst eight minutes of this episode. I came in when the boys were in the lair chilling eating pizza, with April, right before she tells Mikey about facebook. So I missed the first confrontation with the foot and the sequence with Mikey and the cat.

I'll admit that I was also kind of "huh" when I saw April just chilling in the lair like that. It made me think that I had missed her introduction of the lair and Splinter in the earlier part of the episode. I agree with other people on here that she should be more fleshed out more and shown her getting to know the turtles and splinter before just throwing her in the lair chilling with them.

I'm still on the fence on how I feel about this Mikey. He's not rude and cocky like 2k3 Mikey was but I'm not sure how I feel about "niavity" and ADD tendacies. I know I shouldn't expect less, however I'm kind of tired of this potrayal of Mikey. I feel the writers (in general not just here) have gotten in to the habit of making weird and quirky just for the sake of it, and it comes off a little forced. Like him noming down on the magazine. I know some probably think it was cute, and I won't say I didin't that find kind of cute,but it seemed like it was done just for the sake of making Mikey look weird and "out there." He is a sweetie though, even though I think it makes him seem a little bit vulnerable. I'm still not entirely convinced he isn't just "dumb" instead of just unfocused. That has got to be the most tired excuse for Mikey's lack of intelligence in recent iterations.

I did eat up the brotherly fluff moments, like Leo touching Mike's head when they first found him. I noticed Raph did the same thing when he aprouched Mikey right before he sat down and gave him his pet talk. Which was really sweet of Raph. I starting to really like this Raph. He is cute in and even mature his own way.

also, any one else find it odd that everyone was just ok, with Mikey meeting a human and having him as a friend? In the past that has always been a taboo. I was also surpriced Splinter wanted to have the turtles reason the guy from turtle temper to get the phone back (more face to face interaction, meaning more personal exposure to this guy) instead of just stealing the phone and erasing the clip of them, Like I would expect a ninja to do. From the shadows?

In this episode no one tried to stop Mikey from having a human friend and exposing himself to him. Any one else think that was odd?

[shinefra]

also, any one else find it odd that everyone was just ok, with Mikey meeting a human and having him as a friend? In the past that has always been a taboo. I was also surpriced Splinter wanted to have the turtles reason the guy from turtle temper to get the phone back (more face to face interaction, meaning more personal exposure to this guy) instead of just stealing the phone and erasing the clip of them, Like I would expect a ninja to do. From the shadows?

In this episode no one tried to stop Mikey from having a human friend and exposing himself to him. Any one else think that was odd?

It's funny how in Turtles forever they made fun of the 80s Turtles for going out in bright day light and these turtles don't give a crap about exposing them self’s. I too thought it was stupid to beg for the cell phone instead of just taking it using stealth.

[Kevin G]

Does it really matter what he is? Some people can be mixed.

You want a regular black guy, we have Baxter Stockman next week. I just hope to god we see Bebop eventually...to fill out the remaining black-villain quota.

It doesn't matter what Xever is, I just was curious to know what his nationality is. I obviously knew he was black, but once I heard him speak and I heard the accent, I thought maybe somebody would know what he is. I was just striking a conversation and I want to try to have vast knowledge of the new charterers as much as possible. He could be white, black, or purple for all I care.

I kind of like him. I'm not being bias because I like the new show, I like his fighting moves and how he carries a blade (which is very rare now a days, because I don't know about anybody else, but I haven't seen a villain carry pocket knife or use it in a threatening way in a while) which actually IMO is sort of a nod to the 1950's, where people with leather coats, greasy hair, tight jeans and plane white shirt would carry.

[TheCanadiandrome]

what an awesome ep! loved it!

[Jester]

He could be white, black, or purple for all I care.

Soon, fellow Kevin, soon.

[Jephael]

Has there been any indication that...
Chris Bradford and Xever will become Dog Pound and Fish Face?

I haven't seen the action figures yet, so to me it's just speculation.

[Jester]

Has there been any indication that...
Chris Bradford and Xever will become Dog Pound and Fish Face?

I haven't seen the action figures yet, so to me it's just speculation.
Yes. The action figure backs give it away.

[HerpDerp]

Has there been any indication that...
Chris Bradford and Xever will become Dog Pound and Fish Face?

I haven't seen the action figures yet, so to me it's just speculation.

It says so on the packaging of those figures. :)

[Kevin G]

Who would win a fight Xever or Chris Bradford ?

[Zany Orange Dude]

Who would win a fight Xever or Chris Bradford ?

Hmm good question? At first thought I'd say Rad-Brad but I'm not sure.

[Kevin G]

Hmm good question? At first thought I'd say Rad-Brad but I'm not sure.

I was thinking the same thing lol. I am talking about an all out blood fight. No holds barred.

[Route77]

It doesn't matter what Xever is, I just was curious to know what his nationality is. I obviously knew he was black, but once I heard him speak and I heard the accent, I thought maybe somebody would know what he is.

I'm sure we'll find out more about Xever's bio and backstory as the season progresses. For now, all signs point to him being Brazilian. (Capoeira fighting style + Black ethnicity + Latin accent)
I think it's cool that the creatives went that route with him, it definitely breaks the mold, provides a nice contrast to the all-American Chris Bradford, and brings some Afro-Brazilian martial arts to the show, which should make the fight sequences all the more awesome.

[Zany Orange Dude]

I was thinking the same thing lol. I am talking about an all out blood fight. No holds barred.

Well if they are in New York, Xever has the upper hand because he knows the streets, but on the other hand, Chris has more professional skills in fighting.

[Route77]

Who would win a fight Xever or Chris Bradford ?

My money's on Xever. He'll fight dirty.

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[Agent 86]

A good episode. The action scenes were good and I liked the focus on Mikey (although I'm still a little disappointed at how "dumb" they're making him, for example, not knowing how to spell "wrong"). I can forgive his naivety about humans and the "outside world", but some of the things he says and does are just plain stupid.

My only quibbles echo those of others, namely that Shredder somehow knew that Hamato Yoshi now went by the name "Splinter" (although that could have been Yoshi's nick-name in the same way that Splinter refers to Oroku Saki as "Shredder") and April's rather awkward inclusion in the scenes in the lair. I would have liked April's introduction to Splinter and the lair to be show on-screen.

And they really need to address the ongoing search for April's father and the discovery of The Kraang's plans, even if it is a throw-away line. Sure, I don't expect April to be distraught ALL the time, but sitting around an abandoned subway station reading magazines seemed a little too chilled to me.

Episode 3 indicated that April had been doing some research into The Kraang by herself since she sent the turtles to the warehouse, so they could have at least shown her and Donatello at work on his computer trying to figure out a pattern to The Kraang's movements or researching the corporations which owned the warehouses from which The Kraang operated or even just trying to learn more about the mutagen.

Anyway, they're all rather minor quibbles for an otherwise enjoyable episode.

[Jephael]

I liked the focus on Mikey (although I'm still a little disappointed at how "dumb" they're making him, for example, not knowing how to spell "wrong"). I can forgive his naivety about humans and the "outside world", but some of the things he says and does are just plain stupid.

Glad to hear I'm not the only person bothered by this.

[Lampy]

Glad to hear I'm not the only person bothered by this.

i just hope these Turtles eventually develop/change these traits in the long run. Give them some dimension and allow these characters to grow up just a bit.

[TMNachoT]

It doesn't matter what Xever is, I just was curious to know what his nationality is.

It doesn´t matter where he is from, but just to give my opinion... i am from latin america, i have met many people form brazil* (not all of them are black) , and normally, when they speak english, they don´t sound like Xever.

Anyway, cool episode!!!!

[shinefra]

Did anybody noticed Leonardo had four swords? :teek:

[Route77]

It doesn´t matter where he is from, but just to give my opinion... i am from latin america, i have met many people form brazil* (not all of them are black) , and normally, when they speak english, they don´t sound like Xever.
Anyway, cool episode!!!!

Accents vary greatly from person to person, even from the same nationality. I taught English at Berlitz Language Center for several years and had dozens of Brazilian students. Some had almost no accent at all, and some sounded just like Xever (although much less mean);).
You're right about not all Brazilians being black, though they are the majority. The last census in 2010 had Brazil's population at 51% black, just over half.

[Jester]

Did anybody noticed Leonardo had four swords?
Nope...
*Wow...CG can have animation glitches too? Check Leo's katanas in both his hands and his scabbards at around 6:50.
Oh, wait... :P

[Coola Yagami]

Nope...

Oh, wait... :P

6:50 what? How are you guys watching this video?

[The Stryker]

Glad to hear I'm not the only person bothered by this.

Of course. A ton of people are bothered by meaningless things.

Never mind that Mikey spent all of his life in a sewer with his only education being in Ninjitsu with the rest coming from maybe TV.

Or maybe it's just a silly joke on Mikey being kind of dim witted and child like. But no, it's a problem that must be solved because it bothers people that the turtles aren't a band of mary sues.

[tmntfan4ever]

Did anybody noticed Leonardo had four swords? :teek:

Nope...

Oh, wait... :P

Also anybody notice that Mikey has both his nunchucks intact after Leo uses his Katana to cut the chain from his kusarigama. :trolleye: That's of course if his kusarigama is separate from his nunchucks but I thought they converted from his chucks.

[Luzmagica]

Awww!!! Just saw this chapter! So nice!!!! :tgrin: :tcool:

Is maybe April in the Lair without Splinter knowing about it!???? ...Maybe the guys invited her to home without Splinter´s permission!! :trazz:

I like a lot this little lovely Michelangelo....I think If all of them are 15 years old, Mike looks like the rol of little brother with 11 or 12!.... he is so naive and good heart! :) He also defeated Bradford in a brave fight!!!!

Also I like a lot brotherly moments, like Leo touching Mike's head when they rescue him, and Raph did the same thing at the end.....He is the little brother and Raph was actually so worried when he understood Mike was in trouble!

So funny the Leo and Raph secret code with fingers! :lol: !

Adding nice ninja fights in the shadows! Awesome!

Also I cant wait for next chapter: First one seems to me more focussed in Origin, then about Leo,then about Raph, then Mike and I guess next one will be more focus in Don!! :) :tgrin:

:)

[Xav]

6:50 what? How are you guys watching this video?Amazon, iTones, or piracy.

[Coola Yagami]

finally my thoughts on the episode

http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2012/10/nicktoons-tmnt-episode-4-new-friend-old.html

If anyone has any pics of Chris and Xever, I'd greatly appreciate it.

[Xav]

There are some on TMNTPedia.
http://tmnt.wikia.com/wiki/New_Friend,_Old_Enemy

[TMNachoT]

Accents vary greatly from person to person, even from the same nationality. I taught English at Berlitz Language Center for several years and had dozens of Brazilian students. Some had almost no accent at all, and some sounded just like Xever (although much less mean);).
You're right about not all Brazilians being black, though they are the majority. The last census in 2010 had Brazil's population at 51% black, just over half.

Yes, i noticed that brazilians from one city have a different accent compared to another cities in Brazil, actually that happens in my country and for sure, in many other countries too.

When I heard Xever, believe me, i never thought of him being a guy from latin america nor other country... i was just busy enjoying the episode ;)

[Eiko]

Finished watching this episode last night was great. But Mikey is starting to get on my nerves again wish they would tone him down a little and he really isn't that dumb is he.

[marcelangelo]

It doesn't matter what Xever is, I just was curious to know what his nationality is. I obviously knew he was black, but once I heard him speak and I heard the accent, I thought maybe somebody would know what he is. I was just striking a conversation and I want to try to have vast knowledge of the new charterers as much as possible. He could be white, black, or purple for all I care.

I kind of like him. I'm not being bias because I like the new show, I like his fighting moves and how he carries a blade (which is very rare now a days, because I don't know about anybody else, but I haven't seen a villain carry pocket knife or use it in a threatening way in a while) which actually IMO is sort of a nod to the 1950's, where people with leather coats, greasy hair, tight jeans and plane white shirt would carry.

the joker in the dark knight did carry 'nothing in his pockets but knives and lint';)...I like him, too I must say...his fighting technique is fun and newto me and he doesn't appear to be stupid at all I think, but to me chris bradford wishes that xever was...I feel that this cold be his oppinion beyond 'I hate that inferiour little street thug'..remember you have to posess the smarts and the muscle to be succesful on the streets of new york...;)

[marcelangelo]

A good episode. The action scenes were good and I liked the focus on Mikey (although I'm still a little disappointed at how "dumb" they're making him, for example, not knowing how to spell "wrong"). I can forgive his naivety about humans and the "outside world", but some of the things he says and does are just plain stupid.

My only quibbles echo those of others, namely that Shredder somehow knew that Hamato Yoshi now went by the name "Splinter" (although that could have been Yoshi's nick-name in the same way that Splinter refers to Oroku Saki as "Shredder") and April's rather awkward inclusion in the scenes in the lair. I would have liked April's introduction to Splinter and the lair to be show on-screen.

And they really need to address the ongoing search for April's father and the discovery of The Kraang's plans, even if it is a throw-away line. Sure, I don't expect April to be distraught ALL the time, but sitting around an abandoned subway station reading magazines seemed a little too chilled to me.

Episode 3 indicated that April had been doing some research into The Kraang by herself since she sent the turtles to the warehouse, so they could have at least shown her and Donatello at work on his computer trying to figure out a pattern to The Kraang's movements or researching the corporations which owned the warehouses from which The Kraang operated or even just trying to learn more about the mutagen.

Anyway, they're all rather minor quibbles for an otherwise enjoyable episode.

wait a minute, why is that dumb?he is a humanoid turtle, the ability to walk on his hind legs, think and articulate alone is more than gold, compadre!;)where should he know how to correctly spell? he has no school eductaion...and we don't know if splinter has tought them to read or if tehy learned that for themselvs etc...