Should Konami re-release the old nes games on GBA? [Archive]

Phoenix Fire

05-26-2003, 10:33 PM

Hey everyone!
What do you think? With the new series growing in popularity, and sales going well, would Konami be wise to re-release all the old NES TMNT games on a gameboy advance game cartridge? Sega did one called Smashpack which contains 3 classic genesis titles, so its been done before. Three games on one cartridge I think would be cool, after buying the new Gameboy Advance SP I can't wait to get some TMNT gaming going! Opinions? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Karpo_007

05-27-2003, 01:40 AM

Maybe if they would release the aracde version of TMNT and TMNT 2: Turtles in time and Maybe Manhattan project with updated graphics. I could see that happening since Mirage owns the rights to old cartoon characters.

GK Punk

05-27-2003, 02:09 AM

I back up Karpo, if they could re-touch the graphics of the original levels from the NES Arcade game to match the REAL arcade game, then also re touched Manhatten Project, I'd buy a copy

Dinny

05-27-2003, 04:16 AM

And me, that would be a great idea. It could work.

DrSpengler

05-27-2003, 06:08 AM

I just beat Ninja Turtles 3: the Manhatten Project last night. 11 years and that game has yet to lose its charm.

Problem is, would kids acquainted with the ne series have any idea who Krang was? I don't know if they'd get the story line. Not it would matter. The games are great anyway.

Karpo_007

05-27-2003, 07:45 AM

Well the story is not in exactly big part of those games, it's the gameplay.

GK Punk

05-27-2003, 07:55 AM

The karpster hit it on the nose, I said it in another thread, but I know several non-TMNT fans that still play and love the old games, not because of the affiliation but because they are quality games with solid play value.

If Kids these days Saw Krang, I don't think it would matter to them.

DrSpengler

05-27-2003, 04:59 PM

Yeah, I know. The games are tight as hell. I just think it would leave kids wondering why the heck the Foot Soldiers are robots, what's a "Technodrome", how come Baxer Stockman is White and how come there are so many weirdo mutants.

But yeah, I doubt it would be too much of a detractor. Once they get into how fun the games are the story won't mean a thing.

Oxnard Hamster

05-27-2003, 09:30 PM

They could just explain all that in the manual, or change the intro so it makes more sense. A lot of remakes change the plot a little so it makes more sense. I remember the GBC Crystalis remake explained the plot elements better.
But yeah, a remake of the NES games would be great. Or better yet, maybe a TMNT compilation on the GC, PS2, and X-Box, just like Sonic Mega Collection for the GC. Include NES TMNT 1-3, SNES 4 and Tourny Fighters, Hyperstone Heist, and perhaps the GB games.
Maybe this time, have the arcade versions of the first and second arcade games as unlockable extras.

Peanut

05-27-2003, 10:24 PM

I just think it's funny that there are kids who know the TMNT but not Krang. Me and my friends back in the day would have thrown many an object at kids who didn't know who Krang was.

Phoenix Fire

05-28-2003, 12:03 AM

Even if its just the old games I think it would be cool, and a inexpensive way to get some good TMNT games on the market fast.

Karpo_007

05-28-2003, 06:47 AM

Nintendo is doing the same thing with their Supe Mario advance series. IF Konami would want to do it, I doubt Mirage would object.

caspiantiger

05-28-2003, 09:07 AM

i would want it. it would be like the old atarie games they have out on the new system

Ninja Tiptup

05-28-2003, 05:33 PM

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Porting the old games would be awsome!

Since 4kids has heavy ties with both Nintendo and Konami (Pokemon, Kirby, YGO). They could work out a deal for an exclusive TMNT compilation for the Gamecube (I guess it could be on Xbox as well if it has to be, but NOT PS2). The game would feature 4 player action and would include. TMNT: The Arcade Game, TMNT: The Manhattan Project, TMNT: Turtles in Time, and TMNT: The Hyperstone Heist. All with the superior arcade graphics and remastered sound. The game would include the original TMNT intro and sound track. The would be extra modes and unlockable content like the VS mode from Turtles in Time, video clips, character images, etc. (ala Sonic Mega Collection). As a bonus you could download the NES version of TMNT II (and possibly TMNT III) for on the go play on the Gameboy Advance. As for a name I would call it Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Heroes on a Half Shell. As a big bonus you might even be able to unlock all 3 original Gameboy games to play on the big screen with color graphics!

I wouldn't leave GBA out to dry either. I'd port over either the original arcade or the arcade version of Turtles in Time and call it Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Advance. The game would feature four player action as well as 2 player VS ala Turtles in Time. It would also have a little bit of unlockable content.

TheShredder

05-29-2003, 01:39 PM

They could just redo graphics and have the New Shredder The Black Baxter, the Black Foot Ninjas and the new April. Than they could have a option to switch between the old cartoon and new cartoon graphics.

Kid Icarus

05-29-2003, 01:57 PM

If you guys REALLY want them, send e-mails to Konami's costomer support and mention to them with the new show how well these would sell... also be sure to include how cheap it is to port existing games on to a new system ;).

Goku

05-29-2003, 02:15 PM

yeah and that would give them a good reason to release the old toon

Roseangelo

05-31-2003, 09:44 AM

Karpo_007

05-31-2003, 10:49 AM

They could port the arcade version, there has been quite a few arcade conversions on GBA already.

impetus

05-31-2003, 11:23 AM

I have pondered this possibility before. In fact, I think Wizard Mag mentioned it once as well.

Seems everyone forgot about Tournament Fighters...

DrSpengler wrote:
I just think it would leave kids wondering why the heck the Foot Soldiers are robots, what's a "Technodrome", how come Baxer Stockman is White and how come there are so many weirdo mutants. Actually, I wonder that myself... :lol:

I think I said this before, but it is possible to play many of these games using various emulators on Dreamcast, Xbox, and Gameboy Advance.

Roseangelo

05-31-2003, 11:29 AM

I love Tournament Fighters, too. But I would still prefer Turtles in Time.

how come Baxer Stockman is White

No, if anything they'd be wondering why he's a fly. :D

azure turtle

06-01-2003, 02:44 PM

I'd love an arcade port of Turtles in Time for the GBA... With multiplayer capability! That would rock. :D

Nturtle

06-01-2003, 02:49 PM

That would be awesome! But I would hope they would base it off the SNES version more than the arcade one, which wasn't half as good.
I would also like to see the original arcade game on GBA! That would rock!!!

The Defibrillator

06-01-2003, 03:02 PM

Deathknight

06-08-2003, 10:28 PM

What I would like is the original arcade game ported to GBA with the levels that were only in the NES version with the arcade graphics... that would be sweet.

TheShredder

06-14-2003, 03:05 PM

word! Word to yo mother! :lol:

Stone Ill

06-15-2003, 08:18 AM

Yo V.I.P., let's kick it! Haha anyways, you know how they had Super Mario Advance, they do that with the tmnt..here's an original title, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Advance.

Reznorite420

06-23-2003, 09:18 PM

I just think it's funny that there are kids who know the TMNT but not Krang. Me and my friends back in the day would have thrown many an object at kids who didn't know who Krang was.Maybe they were hardcore Mirage fans...I dunno...

Reznorite420

06-23-2003, 09:21 PM

What I would like is the original arcade game ported to GBA with the levels that were only in the NES version with the arcade graphics... that would be sweet.Ummmm, ditto :D

Just one question: how would they change the sprites for the ENEMIES that were also only in the NES version? They would have to change the levels themselves, considering that the NES version only supported one kind of enemy on the screen at a time...

Practicality spoils the fun once again.... :(

impetus

06-23-2003, 10:07 PM

only one type of enemy on the screen at a time? *searches memory* I'm almost positive that's not true...

Karpo_007

06-24-2003, 04:31 AM

I don't remember the NEs game that well, I do know the number of enemies was very limited, but that could be true too.

Reznorite420

06-24-2003, 12:44 PM

only one type of enemy on the screen at a time? *searches memory* I'm almost positive that's not true...*clears throat*

Yes, one KIND, not just one enemy...

Also only 3 enemies were able to be on the screen at once too. I'm guessing it's been so long since you played it last that you don't have a clue. Trust me, I know that game like the back of my hand.

Ninja Tiptup

06-24-2003, 03:32 PM

Now way man. There are plenty of different foot soldiers on the screen at one time in some areas. In general though, they did keep only one kind of enemy at a time.

Karpo_007

06-24-2003, 03:59 PM

Nes versions biggest problem is not the graphics, it's just technically to limited. But since there 2 more maps there is a reason to play it.

Reznorite420

06-24-2003, 10:24 PM

Now way man. There are plenty of different foot soldiers on the screen at one time in some areas.*slaps Ninja Tiptup*

Ok, I'm talking about the NES version, not the original arcade version. I suggest playing it once again..

I know that in the actual arcade game there could many kinds of enemies on the screen at once, but NOT in the NES version. It was ALWAYS either one kind of Foot Soldier or ALWAYS one kind of an ememy; you never have a situation where face Foot Soldiers and Mousers on the screen simultaneously, for example, in the NES version.

Let me make loud and clear:

I AM TALKING ABOUT THE NES VERSION, NOT THE ARCADE VERSION

Do I have to post screenshots for proof?

Ninja Tiptup

06-24-2003, 10:58 PM

YES AND SO AM I (too lazy to make my fot bigger)

I'm sure at point there are areas with more than one kind of foot soldier. I know because it was annoying.

Cascadia

06-26-2003, 08:23 PM

If they can put the original games on GBA with updated graphics, that would be super nice. :)

impetus

06-27-2003, 01:38 PM

never mind rez, I was thinking of the first TMNT game on NES, not TMNT 2

Krakko

07-06-2003, 10:25 AM

i dunno about the old nes games, but i think they should definately release Turtles In Time from snes! That game kicks ass!!!!!!

EZweasel

07-08-2003, 04:45 AM

i didnt like any of the beat em up games . only one i liked was the very first one for nintendo. i hope thats the one they re-release.

Kid Icarus

07-08-2003, 04:58 AM

I think if they ported any of them, it would be Turtles in Time. Most of the games that have been ported so far have been SNES games. The only NES ports have been the NES Mario games and Kirby's Adventure (now called Kirby's Nightmare in Dreamland). And since I don't think we could get more than one TMNT port, I would definately choose Turtles in Time. I love that game!

I bet they could pry squeeze all the NES, and at least the SNES or Genesis TMNT game on one cart. After all, one of those things supposedly has the same memory as an N64 cart. Not sure how much it actually is though.

Leo656

07-08-2003, 06:06 AM

i didnt like any of the beat em up games . only one i liked was the very first one for nintendo. i hope thats the one they re-release.

Gah, I hated the first game. In 12 years I still haven't come CLOSE to beating it. And I never will. Do you know how disheartening it was to be an 8-year old TMNT fan and not be able to get halfway through the game? It's like... it's like something that's SO bad I can't even describe it to you, because THAT'S HOW BAD.

I'm gonna go cry now. Thanks for opening up old wounds. :( :cry:

Jephael

07-08-2003, 04:12 PM

One time I watched my cousin Steve get passed the dam scene, but while he was in the Turtle Van scene, he lost Michaelangelo and he got frustrated so he turned the game off. I was kinda pissed at him cause I wanted to try playing.

impetus

07-08-2003, 09:37 PM

never beat level 3.. (the Turtle van stage)

robot717

07-21-2003, 04:14 AM

The Turtle Van stage was next to impossible.There was one jump that was extremely difficult to make without a Turbo controller.And even if you did make the jump,getting the rope to work so you could cross the rooftops was iffy at best.

Albrecht

07-22-2003, 09:58 AM

Jephael

07-22-2003, 05:22 PM

I never thought anything of it when I first saw that pic of them with red masks, but I was curious about where they got that idea.

Raven

07-22-2003, 09:30 PM

I think they should release the old games with updated graphics

Ninja Tiptup

07-22-2003, 10:12 PM

hell, i cant even beat rock steady. and why the hell did they put a mirage comic cover on a game based on the cartoon I was so puzzeld due to the "multi-colored" cartoon turtles and i didnt even know there was a comic.It was a cool pic though.

Actually that game had a combonation of original toon and Mirage with a tiny bit of Konami's original work thrown in.

I think the first game would work well for an updated verison with character changes. They'd need to change a few things, but most they could keep in. Replace Bebop and Rocksteady with the purple dragons and Hun and that pretty much covers it other than updated character designs for just about everything. And no doubt... some cut scenes to explain things.

Jephael

07-22-2003, 10:28 PM

the only problem with that is it's still entirely based on the old show where Splinter was originally Hamato Yoshi, and at the end of the game Splinter is changed back into Hamato Yoshi via the retro-mutagen ray generator.

Albrecht

07-23-2003, 10:10 AM

then why is he still a rat in the rest of the games.

Jephael

07-23-2003, 10:14 AM

Hmm, that's a good question. Guess there was a hole in the plotline there since they kept him as a rat in the cartoon show. They obviously wanted to keep Splinter in his mutated form, that way they could make his former human self figuatively dead.

RskimB

08-28-2003, 09:34 AM

i've been wondered why they haven't done it already any tmnt game to be ported to GBA would make a great addition to its library.

Ninja Tiptup

08-28-2003, 01:02 PM

I want the arcade game most of all! Four player with a single scrolling screen so if you play it on GB Player (for Gamecube) then you could all look at the screen instead of just one person.

SkaterMike

08-28-2003, 08:03 PM

If I could only have one, It'd definitely be the arcade game. That's the first one I ever played, and still the best. I also wouldn't mind Turtles in Time combined with Tournament Fighters for GBA or the consoles. They could have Tournament Fighters as a seperate mode for 1 or 2 player fights (and maybe add some of the new characters like a foot tech ninja or hun.)

Donatello007

08-28-2003, 08:07 PM

I think they should release it on multiple platforms but be all on one cart/disk and as mp said updated graphics.

gobo

08-28-2003, 09:41 PM

Hmm... Yes. I think I'll agree.

Ninja Tiptup

08-28-2003, 11:01 PM

I think they should release it on multiple platforms but be all on one cart/disk and as mp said updated graphics.

I don't. Why you ask? Because Sega doesn't have a console and other than that and a few one shot console Nintendo console have been the only systems which had TMNT games on them. Thus they should only be on GBA and/or in compilation form on the GCN. It's kind of a legacy thing. Unfortunately... I know people don't care about that so PS2 would get it for sure and likely Xbox and I guess if PS2 gets it then it's good to be fair and put it on all three. But I really do believe it should only be on GBA and or Gamecube. It would certainly be a great selling point for the poor system that doesn't get much attention from many of the third parties and it would probably get more attention as an exclusive but I guess we wouldn't know until something like that came out.

Karpo_007

08-29-2003, 05:31 AM

Because of GC's bad sale numbers, we probably won't see many exclusive 3rd party games on the system.

impetus

08-29-2003, 11:02 AM

on that topic, all you americans read the article about Nintendo in the newest issue of GMR (you can pick it up at EB)

Reznorite420

08-29-2003, 03:44 PM

never beat level 3.. (the Turtle van stage)I have...once. It ain't easy.

Ninja Tiptup

08-29-2003, 03:55 PM

on that topic, all you americans read the article about Nintendo in the newest issue of GMR (you can pick it up at EB)

Not me, what does it say?

impetus

08-29-2003, 04:05 PM

whoops, i meant read as in "reed" not "red"

basically it's talking about Nintendo's poor marketing and decisions versus their well-grounded philophies and great gaming

jasonorme666

09-26-2003, 01:18 PM

Manhatten Project is by far the best TMNT game besides the arcade ones.

Id love to see them release all 4 NES TMNT games on 1 Cart for GBA.

Either that or The Arcade Game On GBA

Hmm.. Or maybe, Turtles In Time & Tournament Fighters on one GBA cart.

I do beileve they are making somthing for the gba where u can plug it into your computer and download roms onto it.

Like NES games and such.

Its not offically a nintendo product, but it would be kewl

impetus

09-26-2003, 04:07 PM

I think you're referring to a Flash Cart, which has been around for awhile now. They're kinda expensive.

Here's an example:
http://www.gameboy-advance.net/flash_linker/flash_advance_linker.htm

Yeah, basically check out the GBA emulation sites if you want to see what's available. Homebrewed games, NES emulation, etc