Why... (split from Guys or Girls?)

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

I'm a guy, although I'm not as masculine as most males. I really don't care for sports or most forms of physical activity. About the only sports I have ever enjoyed are fishing, golf, and bowling. Fishing is my favorite though.
I'm not gay or anything though. Just a little......unusual. :o
That's pretty much how I am too.(although I do at times have a tough attitude and the ass-kicking ability to back it up). My favourite thing to do is drink tea. I also enjoy antiques. I hate how girls keep saying they want guys like us, but all they ever date are creeps.
My deal is that I'm from a long line of smartass tough-guys but somehow I turned out sensitive and feminine. So I'm basically a feminine tough-guy. I'm a weird combination, aren't I?

[GK Punk]

That's pretty much how I am too.(although I do at times have a tough attitude and the ass-kicking ability to back it up)....

Same here, actually. People who are really close to me don't fear me, but everyone else seems to. (I have been told I am very intimadting, I have no Idea if it's true or not)


I hate how girls keep saying they want guys like us, but all they ever date are creeps.

:lol:
It's true though, I have been there many times.

"Oh you like art?"
"yeah"
"You're a musician?"
"Yes, I am"
"Oh that's interesting.. oooh That guy looks like he might kick my ass! See ya later!!"
"damn!"


My deal is that I'm from a long line of smartass tough-guys but somehow I turned out sensitive and feminine. So I'm basically a feminine tough-guy. I'm a weird combination, aren't I?

Once again, me too.. I own kittie ears for Buddah's sake

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

I have bunny ears! And nobody laughs because they've seen me in action when I'm pissed off. :wink:

[GK Punk]

hehe yeah that's how I can pull it off, I wear them out to bars sometimes... the ladies love it. Untill they see an jerk-ass guy that is :lol:

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Know the feeling.

[That Matt Guy]

Once again, me too.. I own kittie ears for Buddah's sake

:-? You own cat ears?

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

A set of fake Cat ears worn on the head. Ever see the Josie and the Pussycats movie?

[That Matt Guy]

Hell no I have never seen that. But I know what you are talking about.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

hehe yeah that's how I can pull it off, I wear them out to bars sometimes... the ladies love it. Untill they see an jerk-ass guy that is :lol:
You wanna hear something Ironic GK?
For several years I was intentionally celebate, and I couldn't get the girls away from me! Then when I finally decided I was ready to date, they all changed their minds!

[GK Punk]

Once again, me too.. I own kittie ears for Buddah's sake

:-? You own cat ears?

My SN didn't come from no-where ^^

Yeah, I bought them for a Rock-Star Cat haloween costume, and became attached to them. I don't wear them to often, but sometimes just around people who think it's to "feminine" For a guy to wear.

You wanna hear something Ironic GK?
For several years I was intentionally celebate, and I couldn't get the girls away from me! Then when I finally decided I was ready to date, they all changed their minds!

:lol:
Ain't that always how it is?

[That Matt Guy]

Yeah, I bought them for a Rock-Star Cat haloween costume, and became attached to them. I don't wear them to often, but sometimes just around people who think it's to "feminine" For a guy to wear.

Feminine? I think strange is the word. No girl in her right mind would wear cat ears.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

It makes life frustrating. I hope one of the girls here reads these posts and tells us what's so great about jerks.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Yeah, I bought them for a Rock-Star Cat haloween costume, and became attached to them. I don't wear them to often, but sometimes just around people who think it's to "feminine" For a guy to wear.

Feminine? I think strange is the word. No girl in her right mind would wear cat ears.
I see plenty of girls (and a few guys) in cat ears. I think Girls with cat ears are sexy!

[GK Punk]

Yeah, I bought them for a Rock-Star Cat haloween costume, and became attached to them. I don't wear them to often, but sometimes just around people who think it's to "feminine" For a guy to wear.

Feminine? I think strange is the word. No girl in her right mind would wear cat ears.

I've known plenty who have actually, they were them as Hair bands, ya know to pull there hair out of their faces. (maybe it's a california thing?)

[That Matt Guy]

I don't know were you go, but I have never seen anyone wearing them.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

You live in CA GK? COOL! My best friend Sarah will soon be going to college there, and I'm trying to get there too because I've heard I'd fit right in there (such places are rare). Also that's where the entertainment industry is housed. And, there are plenty of sushi bars, and surfers, and Hippies!

[GK Punk]

You live in CA GK? COOL! My best friend Sarah will soon be going to college there, and I'm trying to get there too because I've heard I'd fit right in there (such places are rare). Also that's where the entertainment industry is housed. And, there are plenty of sushi bars, and surfers, and Hippies!

Oh yeah, CA is the place to be for good Japanese food ^^
(Especially San Jose and San Fransico, I go there often just for the food heh)

Matt:

Well, just because you haven't seen people wearing them, dosn't mean they don't.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

I cook my own Japanese food everyday. I'm quite skilled with sushi-preparation. And, I make excellent Miso-shiru with potatos! My father loves it when I make a Teriyaki grilled fish. I'd still love to live within walking distance to a sushi bar though. Or a ramen stand.

[That Matt Guy]

Insert Joke Here.

[Dane E5R]

I remember my japanese teacher made fried noodles one day for the class. I tell ya, that sh*t is the way to my heart.

[Peanut]

Yeah what's up with the girls and the jerks?
girl: OMG you're so cute and kind! You want a serious relationship? You don't want to just use me and run away? You're perfect!
me: Yes...Yes I am.
jerk: Hey I need lovin'!
girl: I'll give it to you!
jerk: I'm done.
*Jerk walks away*
girl: What a jerk. I'll never speak to him again.
jerk: I want more.
girl: SURE!

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

That's about how it goes.

[That Matt Guy]

What kind of girls are all of you trying to get with? I have had plenty success with girls just by being myself.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Now what does that say about you? Kidding!

Anyway, I like the "Sweet and innocent" type, but if they're also a little rebelious that's OK too. Weird sense of humor is a good thing, as is creativity.
But, for some reason they like abusive assholes, even though they never admit it.

[That Matt Guy]

Now what does that say about you? Kidding!

Hey there is nothing wrong with white trash! :P

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

:lol:

[Peanut]

I'm not saying I don't get my share of the ladies, but there are quite a few who are a little weird in the head when it comes to saying they like this type of guy and then end up dating this type of guy. You know? They say they like guys who are sensitive and stuff and then go for guys who have nothing but ego and a hate for anything remotely sensitive. If it doesn't involve swearing, bleeding, or naked chicks, to them, it's gay.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

I'm not saying I don't get my share of the ladies, but there are quite a few who are a little weird in the head when it comes to saying they like this type of guy and then end up dating this type of guy. You know? They say they like guys who are sensitive and stuff and then go for guys who have nothing but ego and a hate for anything remotely sensitive. If it doesn't involve swearing, bleeding, or naked chicks, to them, it's gay.
Ain't that the truth.

[Peanut]

Indeed.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Since we've gone completely off topic in this thread I'm going to ask a Mod. to move this conversation for us. I'll try to ask a female Mod. so maybe she could answer some of our questions for us about why women are the way they are.

[GK Punk]

Actually, I never said "I've had no girlfriends because of this" I've had my fair share, I just mean sometimes when you go out and meet a girl you could real see yourself with, the "a-hole" effect kics in

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Well, I've never had a girlfriend. so, I guess I've had worse luck than either of you. :( :lol:

[GK Punk]

Well hey sometimes it's hard to find someone

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Well, nothing in my life has ever been normal, so why should this? :lol:

[GK Punk]

:lol:
Yeah, I know that feeling too :lol:

[Peanut]

You could have just asked me to split it! I feel so useless! :cry: ...............................I'm over it. :D

[GK Punk]

Hey Mikey, could you move the thread for us :D
j/k

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

It just hurts so much when a girl chooses a jerk over you. It's not so bad when she picks a nice-guy over you. That's only happened once. the girl's name was Kim. She was tougher than most of the girls I go for anyway. It's when the really fragile-hearted girls prefer complete Dillweeds over you when you really feel bad.

[Peanut]

Why you gots to be foolin' on me yo?
I've never actually had a girl choose anyone over me, but I've had friends (of the female gender) who've gone for real jerks instead of genuine nice guys who I'm sure would treat them right. That's what makes me angry.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

For one thing, I forgot you were a Mod. Sorry.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Why you gots to be foolin' on me yo?
I've never actually had a girl choose anyone over me, but I've had friends (of the female gender) who've gone for real jerks instead of genuine nice guys who I'm sure would treat them right. That's what makes me angry.
I know that too.

[GK Punk]

It just hurts so much when a girl chooses a jerk over you. It's not so bad when she picks a nice-guy over you. That's only happened once. the girl's name was Kim. She was tougher than most of the girls I go for anyway. It's when the really fragile-hearted girls prefer complete Dillweeds over you when you really feel bad.

You know sometimes the best approch is the "Tough on the outside, soft on the inside" one. You wait 'till you know them really well before you start talking about like art and antiques etc, 'cause by then they are already attached to the "tough" side :lol:
(It's worked for me in the past)

[Peanut]

Oh yeah GK! You know your stuff. Sometimes it's funny. They think you're all rough and tough and then you show them a soft side and they get all weirded out. Then they dig you even more!

[GK Punk]

Hehehe it's true, you just need to ease them in to your more sensitive side. To much to fast is a bit of a shock to them me thinks ^^

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

GREAT IDEA!
I usually show off both at once. but then again the results record clearly show that my way doesn't work.

[GK Punk]

:lol:
yeah, I think the girls atleast like to pretend their guy is a "bad boy" asshole type, that's why you got to ease them in to the sensitive side

[Peanut]

Oh yeah. Sometimes it backfires. I've done it a few times. Watching a movie. "God that was sad. I feel so sorry for him." She just stares...starts to laugh. Thinks it's a joke. Stops laughing. Realizes I'm not joking. Walks away. Well you know not like that exactly, but sort of like that.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

WOW I'm getting an education here!
Actual guys-like-me are giving me advice on how to get girls.
Weird.

[Kali]

I'd just like to thank you guys for reminding me why I avoid all types of social situations.

You humans are so weird. :roll:

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

I've never considered myself "Human" actually.
I'm not sure what I am. :lol:

[Peanut]

I thought one night with me and chrome_dome back in the day would have given you enough reason to not even need a reminder!

[Kali]

I thought one night with me and chrome_dome back in the day would have given you enough reason to not even need a reminder!
:lol:

Sorry, I just find this whole topic amusing because I have no idea what the big deal about dating is. Nothing personal. :)

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

It's just that...

A.) I'm lonely
B.) I'm tired of seeing nice girls get their hearts broken by jerks
C.) I'm confused as to why women tend to say they want nice guys but really prefer jerks.
D.) I found out there are other guys like me, but I'm still the least successful of them all. (I'M THE KING :lol: )

[GK Punk]

You know what, screw it edited the post again:

I don't feel I have to defend myself for not wanting to be alone my whole life. Atleast on the rare occasion I hit on a girl, I am my self and that's more than I can say for most.

Usually I am lucky and the girls flirt with me either more or equally though

[Cascadia]

I am in a field that has a majority of guys--science. There is not many girls that major in science....particularly in 3 areas of science. :D

[GK Punk]

I am in a field that has a majority of guys--science. There is not many girls that major in science....particularly in 3 areas of science. :D

heh atleast you get the "pick of the litter" so to speak ^^

[kyabetsu]

#1. i own a pair of blue sequin cat ears with blue leopard print... i don't know where the heck they ARE right now, b/c i'm packing to move... but i know i have them here SOMEWHERE....

#2. you will meet very FEW of EITHER gender who are entirely honest about what they think is a turn on, though i can see there being fewer straightforward women than men. How many of those "delicate" girls do you think would tell you to your face:
GIRL: i only like DUMB, MACHO Jocks. The LESS he needs me, the MORE i want him.

#3. In plenty of cases it's just that she doesn't necessarily KNOW what she wants, so she says "Sensitive" and "Nuturing," because it's safe. You can't REALLY go wrong with that.... unless she finds out that "Safe" isn't her taste and then she'll become another Jerk-chaser.

#4. oftentimes it's an age thing too... i mean, the less experience she's had in picking dating material, the more likely it is that she's not too good at it yet. AND the less likely she is to pick up on SUBTLE manliness as opposed to 'beat you over the head' stereotypical manliness.

#5. i spent 2 years with a "sensitive" guy.... and i can honestly say that poetry gives me hives the size of buicks. I'm LOUSY at remembering anniversaries. And I can only do so many "heart-felt" sighes in one evening before i want to puke on a "Greatest Love Songs of All Times" cd.

#6. i spent another 3 years with a guy who fit the other end of the spectrum. And from that i learned that i don't really like being treated like poop either.

#7. so. i think that means i want something in the MIDDLE. *shrugs* but any more specific than that? ... i couldn't say. but it couldn't hurt if he had a shell...:twink: :twink:.... or at least a sound appreciation for ninjas.

[That Matt Guy]

Ok, this discussion is getting too weird.

[kyabetsu]

too weird for what?

[That Matt Guy]

#1. i own a pair of blue sequin cat ears with blue leopard print

:|
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But you are a girl, so it's not totally creepy.

[Skeletoncrew]

It makes life frustrating. I hope one of the girls here reads these posts and tells us what's so great about jerks.

I couldn't tell you. I've never dated a man who has treated me poorly. Why would I bother? Women who do that are either just plain morons, or are so unsure of themselve, and afraid of being alone, that they'll put up with anything that comes along. I can't relate at all. I know plenty of guys who would make great boyfriends/husbands, but they seem to have no luck with women. :-?

[GK Punk]

#5. i spent 2 years with a "sensitive" guy.... and i can honestly say that poetry gives me hives the size of buicks. I'm LOUSY at remembering anniversaries. And I can only do so many "heart-felt" sighes in one evening before i want to puke on a "Greatest Love Songs of All Times" cd.

#6. i spent another 3 years with a guy who fit the other end of the spectrum. And from that i learned that i don't really like being treated like poop either.

#7. so. i think that means i want something in the MIDDLE. *shrugs* but any more specific than that? ... i couldn't say. but it couldn't hurt if he had a shell...:twink: :twink:.... or at least a sound appreciation for ninjas.

Well maybe that's why I actually have some luck, I am a bit in between.. I do have both sides.

#1. i own a pair of blue sequin cat ears with blue leopard print

:|
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But you are a girl, so it's not totally creepy.

You know what, I am really sick of taking s*** from people on here because I am slightly different than what they consider normal, ESPECIALLY from people I thought I was cool with, so just lay off

[Pepzi]

i just like to add my two cents...

I'm buff but not a jerk, I dont hang with people who are reffered to as the 'footy ******s' because of their attutide towards females and how they think they can get ass... there is a difference between "geeks' and "sports stars" I choose to hang with the geeks and the females at school only because i cant stand the likes of the "sports stars". Which is fine by me, they can diss me I just punch em one back... It's wired how some girls find these guys facinating, ah well being the way i am I get great looking girls, and u dont even need to be a jerk. It really depends on who u hang with... i have noticed girls like "sport stars" I even asked my lil sis, she finds em atttractive and rekkons they are nice people (wait till they are with their friends and u get to see the real them) i just dont get it, i know plenty of nice people who are classed as geeeks and they never get girls.... anyway im dribbling.... cya

[That Matt Guy]

You know what, I am really sick of taking s*** from people on here because I am slightly different than what they consider normal, ESPECIALLY from people I thought I was cool with, so just lay off

What the hell are you talking about? I wasn't even talking about you. I already knew you were weird, wearing nail polish and being a guy.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

#5. i spent 2 years with a "sensitive" guy.... and i can honestly say that poetry gives me hives the size of buicks. I'm LOUSY at remembering anniversaries. And I can only do so many "heart-felt" sighes in one evening before i want to puke on a "Greatest Love Songs of All Times" cd.

#6. i spent another 3 years with a guy who fit the other end of the spectrum. And from that i learned that i don't really like being treated like poop either.

#7. so. i think that means i want something in the MIDDLE. *shrugs* but any more specific than that? ... i couldn't say. but it couldn't hurt if he had a shell...:twink: :twink:.... or at least a sound appreciation for ninjas.

Well maybe that's why I actually have some luck, I am a bit in between.. I do have both sides.

So am I, but I still have absolutely no luck.

I couldn't tell you. I've never dated a man who has treated me poorly. Why would I bother? Women who do that are either just plain morons, or are so unsure of themselve, and afraid of being alone, that they'll put up with anything that comes along. I can't relate at all. I know plenty of guys who would make great boyfriends/husbands, but they seem to have no luck with women.

Actually, most of the girls that do that, I know to be smart. That's what makes this so confusing.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Can I ask everyone a question?
Do you think I'm a loser?

[Kid Icarus]

Yeah, I bought them for a Rock-Star Cat haloween costume, and became attached to them. I don't wear them to often, but sometimes just around people who think it's to "feminine" For a guy to wear.


I LOVE doing stuff like that! Specially when you have the intimidation thing going on. It's great to get rises out of people.

Example: I've winked at several foot ball players at my school, but since they all think im just a tad insane, they don't do anything (im wearing flannel and thermals in a 92 degree building for seven hours a day, so i think their right :P ).

I also draw cute little chibi faces on my fingers, and i've been known to draw them on my friends as well... usually in bright @$$ neon pink ink.

[Anarchistguy]

Can I ask everyone a question?
Do you think I'm a loser?

OH COME ON. you can't keep underestimating youself like this. Be strong, don't let the fact that you don't have any luck with women ruin your life.
If some jerk or jackass as I like to call them bothers you , than M.D.K.: MAIM, DESTROY, KILL the poor bastard. KICK HIS ASS. What I'm trying to say is stand up for yourself and you'll do fine.

If you think you're a loser, then it's up to you to change it. I did it for my case and I'm just fine. I never bothered with women 'cause I'm proud to be a loner, to be FREE!!! I just wish I had a time machine just to go back in time to beat the living sh*t out of those jackasses who made a fool out of me.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

I've never had a problem standing up to bullies. And, traditionally I've been a loner myself. Loneliness is a fairly recent development.

It's just that staying up all night on a Ninja Turtle forum complaining about my bad luck with women (when I'm not arguing about TMNT mask colors) isn't a very good sign.

[Anarchistguy]

What do you consider being "bad luck" ?

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Have you read this thread?

[Peanut]

Don't worry about it dude. I tend to be quite the loner myself. To tell you the truth a lot of the time I enjoy being alone.

[Anarchistguy]

Have you read this thread?

Oh sh*t!! sorry. But like Michaelangelo said, don't worry about it.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

:lol:

Well, it works like this. I meet a girl. We become friends. After a few months or possibly years of getting to know her I sometime become attracted to her. But, for a few more months I keep those feelings to myself. During those months I usually flirt with her a little bit. Usually the reaction to said flirting is possitive. But, when I finally ask her out, I get turned down. We usually stay friends though. But, I become quite sad for a long period of time. A couple weeks, or months later she hooks-up with some complete creep! And, I have to see and hear about all the different ways he uses and pretty much abuses her. And, it drives me nuts!
That's my pattern!

[Anarchistguy]

Well that's just sickening. Is this ALWAYS how it turns out??

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Everytime! Except Kim she actually ended up with a nice guy. So, I didn't feel bad for too long. That is the only exception!

[Nickokapo]

I've been lurking around this thread for a while, but anyways...i never had much luck with the girls either (I think i only asked 2 girls out and they turned me down.) and i haven't tried to date after that for fear to get turned down again.
So yeah, i guess you're not alone...just don't give up, you'll eventually find that person you're looking for.
Me, i'll rather wait for a woman to make the first move (right... :roll: like they would.) or wait some more years 'till i grow up, perhaps when i am more mature and so will be my partner i will be able to handle the situation better.
I'm done now, i don't like to talk about this kinda stuff on message boards.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

i don't like to talk about this kinda stuff on message boards.
I know, I feel like I'm at a bar.
GK, another round please. :lol:

[GK Punk]

*passes another Long Island Ice Tea over to Tetsu*

Thar ya be varmant ^^

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Thanks :lol:

[kyabetsu]

tetsu.
dude.

you're 19.

wait til college is in FULL SWING. It'll look more like this:
http://pic6.picturetrail.com/VOL144/1002116/1867767/26262030.jpg



Mr. T... i've NO IDEA WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE... so. i guessed.



no. no i couldn't sleep. i think i can now, though.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Doesn't look much like me. I should post a pic of me so everyone sees what I look like. I like that drawing though. It rocks!

[GK Punk]

That pic makes Tetsu look like the Pimp master general!

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

:lol:

[HorseTechie]

Feeeeeeelings....

:D

Aww.. ain't this sweet. A bunch of guys getting together to expression their feelings about girls, dating, and life in general! Reminds me a bit like American Pie, er something. :wink:

But I got no gruff aganist anyone. Cause I spend all my days in highschool as the lonely, geeky human thing who kinda looked like a girl. I think most guys were afraid of me, cause they were too sure what I was. I didn't wear make-up, I wasn't exactly stylin, but yet I also wasn't a grudger or punk type either. I didn't like jerks or jocks, but the sensitive guys, eh.. they were too afraid of me too.

But Kya's right.. things could change in college, or the highchool afterlife. I cleaned up a bit more by then, so I didn't look near as geeky. And I had fun flirting with the Asian students. :evilgrin:

[That Matt Guy]

Reminds me a bit like American Pie, er something. :wink:

It is like American Pie, but without the food sex.

[Kid Icarus]

tetsu.
dude.

you're 19.

wait til college is in FULL SWING. It'll look more like this:
http://pic6.picturetrail.com/VOL144/1002116/1867767/26262030.jpg



Mr. T... i've NO IDEA WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE... so. i guessed.



no. no i couldn't sleep. i think i can now, though.

:lol: Now THATS a lota tetsu lovin'

Tetsu, try finding a nice independent coffee house around where you live. most girls there are in to the more sensitive guy *nods*.