what do you think of the new villains / supporting characters?

[maynardfan]

Let me start by saying I love the new series, but I am starting to get a little aggravated with the villains and or supporting characters. I know they need to change them or tweak them a little, but they have been pretty lame as far as design goes. everything's been written really well, it's just that one of the biggest draws to tmnt for me has always been the crazy array of characters and it feels like the new series is lacking this one thing, most of the characters that have returned so far have felt like mediocre watered down rehashes of the classics. and have been changed beyond recognition. This is just my opinion, I was just wandering if anyone else feels this way or not. thanx


P.S. I absolutely love the new splinter

[Powder]

Yeah, it's totally fair for you to make this giant assessment of a series that debuted less than a month ago. That they're lame is your opinion, not a fact. You don't think what they've already shown is a crazy array of characters? A cranky Brooklynite turning into a tank of a mutant spider, a giant weed with insane root-like tentacles, a bipedal cyborg piranha, spike covered overly muscular dog, an army of alien brain operated androids & more are real boring to you huh? Picky, aren't we?...

Mediocre watered down rehashes of the classics... What? Shredder has barely been touched upon and we already know he's far more menacing than the past (toon) Shredders. Baxter is thus far really no different than his 2k3 counterpart, though he came through with a crazy robot suit right off the bat unlike his predecessor, & is being given a fleshed out backstory up front, too. Change beyond recognition? Are you sniffing glue? Tall evil bastard with a spiked helmet, shoulder blades, claws, cape, sounds God damn familiar to me. Black dude with a moderate-to-short length hair style, glasses, a little facial hair, somewhat scrawny & in arguably nerd-like apparel. That's far more Baxter Stockman (as seen in the source material, the Mirage comics) than any other cartoon version! As for Leatherhead & Metalhead, they both look a lot like past selves, Mirage in the former & the OT in the latter.

Your opinion smells disgustingly casual.

Welcome to The Technodrome.

[Jester]

Wow...and I thought some of my welcome wagon posts were snippy....

[BubblyShell22]

Like Powder said, we're only six episodes in. Give it some time, and the villains will be fleshed out.

[CyberCubed]

The only villain I don't care for is Spiderbites.

His mutant design is dull and as a human he wasn't even a bad guy. Hopefully they can redeem him in a future episode.

[The Big Bad]

As I've mentioned elsewhere, the impression I'm getting from characters like Snakeweed, Spider Bytes and Baxter is that they're really good one-shot characters but little more. I do not care to see them again, and don't see what can be gained from subsequent appearances. The Kraang, meanwhile, have gone from pleasantly creepy to serving almost entirely as comic relief, which doesn't bode well for their ability to serve as credible long-term villains. So far, only the Foot appear to have any dramatic potential, even if I'm not especially keen on the idea of having their lieutenants turn into mutants.

[Foot Soldier Clang]

I like they all so far, but we don't really know what they're all capable of yet.

[zkarlette]

Most of them are completely new characters, it would be unfair to judge so soon.

[The Stryker]

Your opinion smells disgustingly casual.

So you try to clown this person and end up making yourself look like Bozo.

Impressive.

[pannoni1]

Baxter is just a one-shot character? We have the mouser episode coming up and he is always ripe for a transformation into something new. Nick is just taking a "safe and steady" route to give plenty of time to build characters in order for the series to have a long run rather than just go all out and let the good stuff get compressed before a fanbase can buildup enough before Nick runs out of ideas. And I like the new Kraang with their robotic commands and when the alien brains pop out when they are losing in battle. The new Foot Soldiers are cool as well with the Mirage/Movie design and I enjoyed the battle in New Friend, Old Enemy. Snakeweed is fine since there is the issue with Kirby and he wasn't friendly to begin with. Spiterbites is the only real new villain that I'm not that fond with. I think Nick is doing a pretty good job so far, as we should expect a mix of regulars, recurrings, and one-shots.

[Zany Orange Dude]

Baxter is just a one-shot character? We have the mouser episode coming up and he is always ripe for a transformation into something new. Nick is just taking a "safe and steady" route to give plenty of time to build characters in order for the series to have a long run rather than just go all out and let the good stuff get compressed before a fanbase can buildup enough before Nick runs out of ideas. And I like the new Kraang with their robotic commands and when the alien brains pop out when they are losing in battle. The new Foot Soldiers are cool as well with the Mirage/Movie design and I enjoyed the battle in New Friend, Old Enemy. Snakeweed is fine since there is the issue with Kirby and he wasn't friendly to begin with. Spiterbites is the only real new villain that I'm not that fond with. I think Nick is doing a pretty good job so far, as we should expect a mix of regulars, recurrings, and one-shots.
^ Gotta say I agree with this. :twink:

[NinjaMan]

Spiderbytze is the only one I don't care for. But I like the rest. I also like how Bradford and Xever are being fleshed out before you know what happens. And I like the slow buildup towards Shredder. Also enjoyed Baxter and can't wait to see him again. I'm curious as to how they plan to introduce Rat King and what his origin is in this version.

[Shogi]

I have to say I'm not crazy about the designs for Spiderbites and Snakeweed. They feel more like a 5 year old's drawing than a mutant from the TMNT series. Dogpound and Fishface's designs fit more in with the type of mutants I'm expecting to see from the series

[maynardfan]

I will say shredder seems really awesome so far, cant wait for him to make a full-out appearance. I think the big plant monster was really lame and I was disappointed by metalhead and baxter, though once again I think they have done an awesome job writing all the episodes. metalhead should be way more then just a pint size toy. all the villains so far (except shredder and even the kraangs)have seemed like, as some-one else mentioned just oneshot throw away characters. I am waiting to see what happens next with all the characters. I was not real excited for the shows return after watchin some early clips on youtube, but it turns out I really love it for the most part and am excited to see where it goes. thanx for the input I was just curious how everyone else is receiving the show.

[CyberCubed]

I'll do them:

The Kraang: Creepy and entertaining, but I really want to see their plot go somewhere. What exactly are they planning? Why are they on Earth?

Shredder: Seems fine so far.

Snakeweed: Decent for the first new mutant of the show, nothing amazing but gave the Turtles their first monster to fight.

Spiderbites: Pretty boring character, and lackluster design.

Chris Bradford: I enjoyed his interactions with Mike, it'll be interesting to see him again when he becomes you-know-what.

Xever: Same as above.

[TurtleTitan97]

I'm liking all of them so far.

[Metropoliskid41]

I like that they've introduced a wide variety of characters, we've seen someone new every episode, I think they've done a great job of introducing a number of villains that hopefully become reoccuring thorns in the Turtle's sides. Obviously the Kraang are the big baddies at the moment with the Foot looming on the horizon. I think thats a very welcome and nice change of pace, to see the Foot build and build until it all hits the fan at the end of season one. We have 20 episodes to go yet, be patient maynardfan and I think you'll get what you're looking for out of this series yet.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I like they all so far, but we don't really know what they're all capable of yet.

^ this i agree with

[Drose18]

Unless they dont return the mutants so far are, nothing special. The new henchmen for shredder show some promise though.

[Jephael]

Call me the odd man out, but I dug Spider-Bytes. Part of it has to do with the fact that I'm a fan of Marvel's Spider-Man and the fact that they cast the legendary comedian Lewis Black to provide the voice role.

[Vivi]

As I've mentioned elsewhere, the impression I'm getting from characters like Snakeweed, Spider Bytes and Baxter is that they're really good one-shot characters but little more. I do not care to see them again, and don't see what can be gained from subsequent appearances. The Kraang, meanwhile, have gone from pleasantly creepy to serving almost entirely as comic relief, which doesn't bode well for their ability to serve as credible long-term villains. So far, only the Foot appear to have any dramatic potential, even if I'm not especially keen on the idea of having their lieutenants turn into mutants.

I have to say I agree. The Kraang have the potential to be extremely creepy (even with the circular sentences) and sometimes I catch glimpses of that, but I suppose they reign it back in a little due to the target demographic.

So far none of the villains have been of great interest to me aside from Chris Bradford and the Shredder (who we have yet to learn more about). I think when more of the Kraang's motivations are revealed they will hook me back in.

[CyberCubed]

The mutants have good action scenes during the fights, but that's all so far.

I want to see a mutant that feels more like an actual character than a monster though.

[Venom]

The mutants have good action scenes during the fights, but that's all so far.

I want to see a mutant that feels more like an actual character than a monster though.

Hopefully Leatherhead will, in time, be that, but most likely he'll be played for the monster for the most part.

I'm still curious about Dogpount and Fish Face, since they are prominently displayed alongside Shredder in everything.

We need a mutant tiger...

[miru]

Snakeweed is so epic. However, I miss Ninjara.

[Jester]

Snakeweed is so epic. However, I miss Ninjara.
We need a new Nick Turtle based meme, but until then, here's a quote:
"WE GET IT!"

[Cure]

Snakeweed is so epic. However, I miss Ninjara.

Click here (http://www.furaffinity.net/) and never come back.

[demonsweat]

And I like the new Kraang with their robotic commands and when the alien brains pop out when they are losing in battle.

Me too. What I really like is the squealing pig noises they make. Cracks me up every time. :D

Call me the odd man out, but I dug Spider-Bytes. Part of it has to do with the fact that I'm a fan of Marvel's Spider-Man and the fact that they cast the legendary comedian Lewis Black to provide the voice role.

I like him too, but I'm biased for being a huge Lewis Black fan myself. I kind of dig his color scheme though, the red and black is cool.

[CyberCubed]

I just hope they evolve the mutants in their second appearances. I just don't want to see them return just to fight the Turtles the same exact way again.

[cloud]

I'm starting to feel like the show is lacking focus with all these new villains. We're basically getting introduced to a new villain every episode. It feels like the early seaons of Smallville where there's a new villain every episode but there's no progress in the story. The pacing is slow. And I worry that this formula of introducing new characters but not going in depth about their background would do the new series much more harm than they expect.
Or perhaps I'm just worrying too much because it's a kid show. Kids don't care about well written stories and progress.

[NinjaMan]

I'm starting to feel like the show is lacking focus with all these new villains. We're basically getting introduced to a new villain every episode. It feels like the early seaons of Smallville where there's a new villain every episode but there's no progress in the story. The pacing is slow. And I worry that this formula of introducing new characters but not going in depth about their background would do the new series much more harm than they expect.
Or perhaps I'm just worrying too much because it's a kid show. Kids don't care about well written stories and progress.

Well Xever is back next episode and Bradford will be coming back as well as Baxter later this season.

[CyberCubed]

I'm starting to feel like the show is lacking focus with all these new villains. We're basically getting introduced to a new villain every episode. It feels like the early seaons of Smallville where there's a new villain every episode but there's no progress in the story. The pacing is slow. And I worry that this formula of introducing new characters but not going in depth about their background would do the new series much more harm than they expect.
Or perhaps I'm just worrying too much because it's a kid show. Kids don't care about well written stories and progress.

All action cartoons introduce a ton of villains at the start.

[ImDoneItsOver]

Im liking them but I also have not watched TMNT in a LONG while :(

[Lampy]

i like all the nick villains... i hope we see more of them.
rad brad is kind of boring but he looks a lot like chuck norris.
and snake weed is just badass... i wonder where they're all hiding?

[BubblyShell22]

I like Bradford and Xever the best as well as Falco. He seems like a really formidable villain, and I have a feeling we'll see more of him considering he escaped. Can't wait to see more of Xever on Saturday.

[Route77]

My favorites are Xever and Bradford. As Shredder's henchmen, I'm glad they're actually pretty dark and menacing instead of dumb and buffoonish.
I'm also a fan of their funky 70's vibe, with Xever's sideburns and 'fro and Bradford's big swingin' gold medallion. Can't wait to see more.

[TheCanadiandrome]

My favorites are Xever and Bradford. As Shredder's henchmen, I'm glad they're actually pretty dark and menacing instead of dumb and buffoonish.
I'm also a fan of their funky 70's vibe, with Xever's sideburns and 'fro and Bradford's big swingin' gold medallion. Can't wait to see more.
agreed with u

[whitefox360]

I'm pretty happy with it, myself and think that the monster of the week approach is the one to go with where longevity is concerned. This way shredder doesnt HAVE to steal the dimension x device every episode. As far as character returns go, i'd be surprised if we didnt see EVERYONE reused eventually. 3D character modeling can get expensive by the time you factor in limb movement and all that...i doubt very seriously we've seen the last of anybody.

As far as depth goes, it's a kids show. One over-arching plot (shredders) is enough for me for now. I'd hate for this to turn into the kind of show where you're lost if you miss a couple episodes. Now, granted im grown and have a dvr, but i once tried to get my nephew into gundam wing and it didnt take due to the complexity and fact that you HAVE to catch every episode.

[miru]

Yes, there should be the odd monster here and there.

[Ninjinister]

http://www.toyhypeusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/TMNT-FishFace.jpg

It just dawned on me why I've felt Fishface is so unsettling.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_geaYLaNDaUw/SacBHEsnU5I/AAAAAAAAA7U/dK3SGJQ5HhM/s400/gyo+4.bmp

(To be fair, Gyo is actually one of Junji Ito's tamer works. Well, next to "A S**t To Remember....)

[Rat_King]

What I'm finding really neat is that the turtles are, for the most part, novices against the villains. They're doing a great job of showing the turtle as most effective when they work together. I look forward to seeing their skills evolve with the villains they face. Also, with the show's opening sequence starting pointed into space I really hope to see them go interstellar in the second season. I'd love to see Triceratons or Neutrinos!