Bebop and Rocksteady As Individuals

[MikeandRaph87]

These two are always paired together and don't have much character development to separate the two. They still are cool and hilarious to a majority of us. I have always wanted to see more of them but 1. more threatening maybe some blood on thier hands 2.separate personalities. What do we know that makes thme different or done without the other?

Bebop had a pet turtle that became the dimwitted savage Slash. He was also put in charge of foot soliders to do Krang's dirty work when Rocksteady was beamed aboard a spaceship with Donatello. Bebop killed Chr'ell accidentally. That is all that I can think of that was separate of the two. Aside from the fact that Bebop carries a bat while Rocksteady the dagger and wears an army helmet on occasion. I am sure there is more,but I can't think of much that separates Bebop and Rocksteady from one another. Thanks.

[Icebot]

In Atlantis Awakes, Bebop became the king and Rocksteady got jealous and he was just the king's servant.

[MikeandRaph87]

In Atlantis Awakes, Bebop became the king and Rocksteady got jealous and he was just the king's servant.

I had ALMOST forgotten about that. So Bebop got Slash as his pet,accidently killed Chr'ell, and mistakenly placed on the Atlantis throne while Rocksteady got abducted. He has gotten more than Rocksteady as far as separating the two. I perfer Bebop anyway. We need more to make them thier own characters!

[RatedR]

Well the characters is always funny..both of them..but i still prefer Bebop

[shuriken]

I had ALMOST forgotten about that. So Bebop got Slash as his pet,accidently killed Chr'ell, and mistakenly placed on the Atlantis throne while Rocksteady got abducted. He has gotten more than Rocksteady as far as separating the two. I perfer Bebop anyway. We need more to make them thier own characters!

Rocksteady is always the first boss in the videogames, except the first one where Bebop is a mini boss. I always thought Bebop's design was better anyway, but liked Rocksteady more. In terms of making them their own characters it's not really needed, because they were just used as bumbling henchmen and brutes. They started out as vicious but dumb adversaries and ended up being guys that the TMNT just beat up on a weekly basis. It was all fine and well cuz they were some of the most popular villains in the series, although it did become formulaic after a while. They might do something different in IDW so here's hoping.

[Coola Yagami]

In Atlantis Awakes, Bebop became the king and Rocksteady got jealous and he was just the king's servant.

lmao that I got to see.

Also Bebop got to impersonate Leonardo in 'Leonardo is missing'.

Rocksteady's solo scene was when he was with Donatello on that spaceship.

[CyberCubed]

Rocksteady is actually smarter than Bebop if you pay close attention. There are a lot of episodes where Rocksteady comes up with something and Bebop follows along.

Don't forget Rocksteady fell in love with April due to the love potion and generally got into more action.

And don't forget that Bebop is black and Rocksteady is white. If Bebop returns in the Nick show but as a white guy I would be furious.

[DonatelloNinja82]

Bebop also had that ice mutant obey him b/c he removed a missile from its hand in "Ice Creature Cometh."

[Andrew NDB]

They still are cool and hilarious to a majority of us.

I look at it as a litmus test, myself.

[MikeandRaph87]

Bebop also had that ice mutant obey him b/c he removed a missile from its hand in "Ice Creature Cometh."

That is true. It seems Bebop got more chances to shine than Rocksteady.

Rocksteady is more often listed ahead and in one more game than Bebop,Hyperstone Heist was odd with him and not his best bud. Rocksteady also got the better labels like Warthog Man and Super Rocksteady(his mecha conunerpart) while Warthog Boy and Mighty Bebop are perhaps a lesser title. So Rocksteady gets the stronger label I suppose so perhaps it balanaces out with that. Still it would be nice to see individual character traits between the two of them

Cubed,the race of Bebop would not matter. Remember the original Mutations line that had Bebop as a white guy? Heck,Shredder was a shirtless white guy for some reason! The race of Baxter Stockman did not matter because the essence of the character was there and that was what matter. In both cartoons he was a rebelious underling of Shredder by force. There are differences but the personalities were essentially the same just Baxter of the 2003 cartoon wa able to expand alot more with many more apeparances than the 13 appearances Baxter Stockman made in TMNT(1987) and five and a half as a mutant fly.

[Donatello19]

Bebop? Rocksteady? Individuals?

[Lisardo]

I thought Bebop was hilarious myself! I always loved his trying-to-be-smart one-liners/comments!

Shredder: The Turtles, I've forgotten they live in the sewers!
Bebop: Yeah, I dunno how the turtles live in such sub standardized housing.

*Shredder, Bebop, and Rocksteady looking for Metalhead in the sewer*
Bebop: Aww look boss, that oil slick must be all that's left of him.

:lol:


I think Rocksteady was the stupider of the two personally. That's how I tell them apart.

[CyberCubed]

You guys don't understand, Rocksteady generally acted like "the leader" when it was only him and Bebop together.

You have to pay attention, but Bebop generally went along with whatever Rocksteady said at the time. There are a few times he questions him like in "Green with Jealousy."

Rocksteady eats the pizza with the love potion and Bebop says, "Are you sure you should be eating that? It has the love gunk all over it." And Rocksteady replies, "Nothing is going to happen to THIS Rhino."

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah I do notice that Rocksteady usually said 'C'mon Bebop, let's 'so forth and so forth'. You never heard Bebop tell Rocksteady what to do.

[MikeandRaph87]

Yeah I do notice that Rocksteady usually said 'C'mon Bebop, let's 'so forth and so forth'. You never heard Bebop tell Rocksteady what to do.

Ido remember one instance which he says "Look out world for Bebop and Rocksteady!" as he and Rocksteady attempted the failed dive into the portal in "Return of The Shredder". While Bebop got more stuff to do individually Rocksteady seemed to be the slightly more important one.But I am team Bebop and besides they are both practically equals of one another. Its like ta lesser version of the arguement that Shredder is under Krang instead of full partners with similar yet different goals. Bebop and Rocskteady had the same goals.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

In the episode where Baxter Stockman turned Shredder into a fly, wasn't it Bebop who was the first to realize that Shredder was no longer in a position to give them orders?

[CyberCubed]

I just watched "Michaelangelo's Birthday" from Season 3 and when Shredder goes with the Turtles to show them the captive Michaelangelo, Bebop/Rocksteady were left behind.

Bebop then says, "What do we do now, Rocksteady?"

And Rocksteady tells him to steal two kids bicycles. More proof that Bebop always looked to Rocksteady for advice when they were by themselves.

[Garfield]

Bebop seemed a little nicer too... like, if circumstances in his life turned out better, than he might have been a stand up chap.

[Icebot]

I just remembered in The Gang's All Here, near the end of the episode as everyone was trying to figure out what to do, the questions were asked as follows:

Gang Member: Now what Bebop?
Bebop: Now what Rocksteady?
Rocksteady: Now what?... Oh, I forgot, the boss isn't here.

Notice how Bebop asked Rocksteady the question before Rocksteady tried to ask Shredder. This probably proves Rocksteady is more of a leader than Bebop.

[pannoni1]

Well, Rocksteady as a human was leading the original gang in Turtle Tracks when they came up to April. He is much more aggressive and stereotypical of a gang leader than Bebop is, who is more of a supporting assistant. Bebop is more of a self-spoken sadist, who constantly enjoys more hobbies in his downtime (comic books, video games) who just happens to not be as intelligent.

[MikeandRaph87]

Now that Bebop and Rocksteady have appeared in the Nick cartoon and apear to have different backgrounds even accents what makes them similar or different in this iteration. It seems that Nick is giving them more separate identities which is a good thing. Thoughts?

[Shark_Blade]

They're wonderful of course.

[ssjup81]

Getting down to it, I've always liked Bebop more than Rocksteady. If either of them would've ever turned on Shredder and Krang, I could see it being him.

Also, Bebop seemed to get the interesting lines, like 4th wall jokes and sometimes I wondered if he was smarter than he ever let on. Seriously, there's that one ep where he wanted to give his opinion on world affairs. lol

[pennydreadful]

Definitely better giving them more personality - in the FW cartoon, being generic muscle worked for the medium, time-period and tone of the series, but for appearances in other incarnations, they were sorely in need of an update.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I also remember the episode where Bebop rearranged the schedule line-up at Channel Six while they were posing as janitors, and they ended up getting promoted to VP's in charge of programming. Rocksteady may have been "in charge" between the two, but Bebop always struck me as the smarter of the pair.

[ProactiveMan]

Bebop likes comic books.

[MikeandRaph87]

Bebop likes comic books.

They both do. They fought over comics thath each of the two of them claimed was apart of their own collection. That is not an indivual trait. Its just one of the many the two moronic mutants have in common. It is nice to extract traits that are individual to Bebop or Rocksteady especially in older incarnations than Nick though it looks like I may get my wish to them being different from each other. As long Rocksteady is not over Bebop. While I want them to be more separate of each other I want them to also be equals. Bebop is cooler though so I would be more inclined to accept him over Rocksteady.:P

[CyberCubed]

I like Bebop's human form over Rocksteady, but I like Rocksteady better in general.

He was more of a leader in the OT and got the funnier lines. Although it might also be that I just like rhino's more than warthog's...so his design is cooler.

[ssjup81]

I also remember the episode where Bebop rearranged the schedule line-up at Channel Six while they were posing as janitors, and they ended up getting promoted to VP's in charge of programming. Rocksteady may have been "in charge" between the two, but Bebop always struck me as the smarter of the pair.Yeah, I always had that impression too, that Bebop was the smarter one. Rocksteady was definitely the leader, though.

[billbot85]

I agree, Bebop was definitely the smarter one of the two. I always liked him more than Rocksteady, both in design and personality. Another example of how he seemed to be smarter than Rocksteady was in "Slash: The Evil Turtle from Dimension X." He was smart enough to keep his pet turtle a secret from everyone, including Rocksteady. Then again, everything kinda backfired on him when he thought it would be a great idea to mutate Slash to do all of their chores for them :tlol:

[Prowler]

Rocksteady was more assertive than Bebop, but other than that, there wasn't much of a difference between both personality-wise. Physically, they looked and sounded very different.

I've always felt the writers liked Rocksteady more and gave him more of a spotlight and more lines.

[UGHShellshocked]

Beebop had the brains while Rocksteady had the body.

[Lisardo]

Rocksteady is actually smarter than Bebop if you pay close attention. There are a lot of episodes where Rocksteady comes up with something and Bebop follows along.

Don't forget Rocksteady fell in love with April due to the love potion and generally got into more action.

And don't forget that Bebop is black and Rocksteady is white. If Bebop returns in the Nick show but as a white guy I would be furious.

Ya know, I noticed this too. It seems as tho Rocksteady was more the leader/smarter one of the two, and Bebop was the dumbo who followed him (*think* Butthead, and then Beavis is his follower). But I honestly like Bebop more because sometimes he tries to act smart, or says really funny lines; "And to think, I didn't get a professional career cuz I hate commuting!" He was also the more sensitive one who liked animals. Like a "sensitive beast" type. Rocksteady was more the rough, aggressive type. So in essence, I did find some individuality between the two characters.

[Brianardo]

They had the potential to be bad@$$e$ in the beginning. Just think if they were reintroduced and formed another gang/group that became another threat to the boys...

[PizzaPower1985]

You know... more personality would be good for these guys as long as you do not make them too individualistic. These guys work better as a pair.