Official Ep Discussion: #12 "It Came from the Depths"

[Machias Banshee]

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(How I WISH I could get the IGN Preview (http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/12/12/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-leatherhead) to embed..)

Well, looks like we've got an old friend to show up in the sewers again..!

It seems our Alligator Ally is going to be coming from a slightly different background from some past incarnations. Seems he's being used as a Kraang petri dish for their genetic experiments, and the guy's got some serious scars to heal from, mentally and physically...

So why are the Kraang so bent on mutating everything within arm's reach? And what are they looking for? Leatherhead seems like nothing more than a simple alligator...

And logically, if there is a pitiful creature in need, there is always a turtle there to try and adopt it.

I love Michelangelo... He's always trying to make friends or bring home pets. I can't imagine Splinter saying Mike can keep him in the swimming pool in the den. Not to mention the size of the litterbox he'd have to use.. But Mike is persistent, and eventually victorious.

The next question I would have: How do you transport a highly agitated, and injured, giant alligator?

Now, if the turtles had watched any of the gator wrestling shows on animal planet, or even some old Steve Irwin videos, they could have subdued him a lot more easily by holding his mouth shut and draping something over his eyes. It woulda made him a Lot more docile, and less inclined to grab faces a la Optimus Prime... and no tazering either, bro.

They'll get him home, and Mike will somehow get him to open up about what happened. That or they'll find him a sewer line to call home. Then, they can focus on what it is that the Utroms are up to with the scientists...

Alright,
WILL MIKE MANAGE TO TAME THE WILD LEATHERHEAD?!
WILL THE TURTLES FIND THE POWER SOURCE?!
AND WILL WE EVENTUALLY GET SOME BETTER QUESTIONS IN THE FUTURE?!


Stay Tuned!!

[Machias Banshee]

Enjoy, and look out for face grabbers... :P

Poll to come!

[MrTMNT2012]

1 hour left! I honestly can't wait :)
This is the last Episode we get till January 2013. Better go out with a bang :/

[Xav]

It's the Kraang not the Utroms.

[Donatello19]

1 hour left! I honestly can't wait :)
This is the last Episode we get till January 2013. Better go out with a bang :/

The next episode is supposed to be about Rat King I think.

[The Stryker]

You're right Victorious. It just isn't Christmas without you.

[Donatello19]

You're right Victorious. It just isn't Christmas without you.

XD. Also, there's a new Victorious tonight! :D

[MrTMNT2012]

Can you please stop with the Victorious BS? In case, you haven't noticed this is a TMNT Discussion!

[oldmanwinters]

So... anybody thinking "Holy MutaStones" ? :tcool:

[NinjaMan]

Dude I'm loving this LH!!!!!!

[Donatello19]

I love Mikey and LH's friendship :P

[oldmanwinters]

'bout time Splinter did something useful!

[The Stryker]

Can you please stop with the Victorious BS? In case, you haven't noticed this is a TMNT Discussion!

Never! And why should I? It's part of the broadcast stream.

Yeaaaaahhh Dimension X!

[NinjaMan]

LOL Trouble with Tribbles! The details on Leatherhead are really good! He's like the 03 version, he has fits of rage. Loving his voice. Him and Mikey had a nice boding moment. The name Kraang seemed to set him off. Mikey was able to keep him calm at times. Very good episode for Mikey. And Splinter vs. LH was awesome!!! The heart in this show is too good! I freaking loving this show!!!

[oldmanwinters]

Heh, the name on the shirt of Leatherhead's kid owner was Sid (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=40452).

Dude kinda reminded me of tOkKa (http://www.flickr.com/photos/terrible2z/) too.

[Barkworm]

This is such a fun show. It was also cool to see Splinter finally jumping into the action.

[Green Machine]

Finally.. Splinter in action! Awesome!

[The Stryker]

This Spongebob special is also pretty great BTW.

Good episode this week. I kinda like how we're moving forward with the universe. Now they have the subway car for the new turtle van and ish.

[NinjaMan]

Was that a giant eye they saw?

[oldmanwinters]

Now they have the subway car for the new turtle van and ish.

I was wondering how they were going to acquire the necessary resources for Donny to cobble that thing together. I wouldn't have thought about the subway car being the basis until you pointed it out.

Also, did 4Kids Donatello turn a subway car into the so-called "Turtle Tunneler" ?

[TurtleTitan97]

Another great episode. Loved how Mikey and Leatherhead were such good friends. Seeing Splinter defending the turtles was great too. :tgrin:

[Chaotix12345]

Absolutely fantastic episode. Leatherhead was great, the bonding between him and Mikey was some nice interaction, and seeing Splinter jump into action and manage to hand LH his hide on a silver platter was freaking sweet. Man, does it make me impatient for that upcoming Leatherhead figure.

[pannoni1]

Finally we get an episode that shows that Michelangelo has some weight to carry the team! Watching the first OT Leatherhead episode and the 4kids Leatherhead episode, this definitely feels more like the 4kids version, though with Kraang mutagen similar to the OT. Lots of great fighting with Leatherhead and definitely the best origin story of him out of all versions. Since Michelangelo saved Leatherhead and not Kraang/Shredder or his henchmen, he is most loyal to him; the other Turtles aren't quite yet his friends and I thought the Turtles were going to enter Dimension X on that subway car ride, though it reminded me more of that one from "Camera Bugged". By now, I alert that you pay more attention to those Space Heroes scenes since it will have big implications on what lies ahead. I even thought that pizza with milkshake topping combo was gross (Mikey too at first), and this Leatherhead has a good voice. I hope he returns in a future episode. Splinter even made his first mistake when he described the Turtles about proper commotions. Although April doesn't appear, it was nice to see another Channel 6 shout-out as well with the reporter named Joan. The only thing is that this episode is much more episodic with the others like Turtle Temper and the Metalhead episode.

Overall: 8/10

[Donatello19]

Okay, so here are my pros and cons of the episode.

Pros
Leatherhead was awesome
It was another Mikey episode
Character development for Mikey
We got to see Splinter in action for the first time
Comic style backstory for Leatherhead
Mikey and Leatherhead's friendship was really nice

Cons
Where's April?
Way too short (most of the episodes feel this way)
Ended on a cliffhanger :trolleye:

Final Thoughts
The shell raiser should be here soon. The subway car they used is probably going to be modified into it. All in all it was a great episode, but again, way too short. The credits started to come on the screen just as the episode started to get to it's climax. I really hope Nick finishes this story though, as we didn't even see whats going to happen to Leatherhead. I'm also starting to think there is a Kraang that is the leader "Krang". I say this because the Kraang are always saying things like "We must show this to Krang". Perhaps he is in their dimension? Overall this was a great episode, but not really the best one to leave us off with.

[Zany Orange Dude]

Another great episode. Loved how Mikey and Leatherhead were such good friends. Seeing Splinter defending the turtles was great too. :tgrin:

I know! Loved this episode! I thought Mikey's friendship with Leatherhead was so sweet!:tlove: Boy did Splinter give it to Leatherhead! Don't mess with Papa Splinter's sons!:twink:

[NinjaMan]

That giant eye they saw, maybe it was the technodrome in dimension X?

[tmntfan4ever]

this is prolly the 1st real nod to the 2K3 Series with Leatherhead's backstory: both the 2K3 and Nick's Leatherhead were once pets which were dumped into the sewers which would later be discovered by the utroms/kraang only with the difference of the 2K3's utrom being Leatherhead's adoptive family and the kraang experimenting on him like agent Bishop did in the 2K3 series :tsmile: this series is epic with the best of all previous incarnations of TMNT

[Zany Orange Dude]

Man, does it make me impatient for that upcoming Leatherhead figure.

Same here dude!:tlol: Can't wait to get my hands on it!

[CyberCubed]

this is prolly the 1st real nod to the 2K3 Series with Leatherhead's backstory: both the 2K3 and Nick's Leatherhead were once pets which were dumped into the sewers which would later be discovered by the utroms/kraang only with the difference of the 2K3's utrom being Leatherhead's adoptive family and the kraang experimenting on him like agent Bishop did in the 2K3 series :tsmile: this series is epic with the best of all previous incarnations of TMNT

It's probably a Mirage nod more, Leatherhead's 4kids origin was exactly the same as Mirage's anyway.

[FoxZerro]

That was awesome and a great winter finale. Set up a nice new story arc for the turtles. Before the Turtles had a reason to seek them out because they had April's father, but now the Kraang have a reason to look for them since they have the required component to complete the total infiltration and annihilation of our dimension... Seriously Kromaggs and Sliders anyone delighful .

Leatherhead (or Headleather or my favorite Heather) was fantastic, I haven't seen such an imposing looking figure since the Mirage books. I could never take him seriously in the OT and in the 2k3 him being essentially the same size as the turtles kind of took the fear out of him. Here he finally returns to the imposing hulking figure he first was when we met him in Tales of the TMNT issue 6. Based upon the promos I was nervous that he would just be this angry out of control monster. Thankfully they were able to bring in the whole Jekyll and Hyde allegory, but best of all it seems like he is in far more control of his animalistic side than before. Big fan of how they explained that he was mutated in the Kraang dimension, so that it could be explained why unlike the others mutants we've met up to this point he seemed so perfect. Of course that raises the question of whether or not the turtles were also mutated in their dimension, which gives more teeth to my belief that Splinter wasn't entirely forthcoming and truthful in his origin tale to the turtles.

As much as I loved the whole Michelangelo finally makes a friend story. I really liked the side adventure that Raph, Leo, and Don went on. Raph just throwing his brothers into the pool perfectly reflected the character. Plus when they got to Leatherhead's House of Horrors all of the boobytraps had a delightful OT feel and just reminded me of the aesthetic of the original Playmates toys. I also have to say I am impressed that Leatherhead was able to build up such an intense and impressive lair in just 6 months. It makes me wonder if the scenes from the beginning took place in the past and then we jumped into the story in present day. Plus Raph's "And somtimes its good to be a short turtle." line was perfect.

Though I think the most surprising and fulfilling part of the episode was seeing Splinter finally get into the action. I have no doubt that he is still quite the ninja and that eventually we will see he and the Shredder face one another in Mortal Kombat.

Side note the Trumpets and Captain Ryan's "humane" method of dealing with them, Raph's condemnation of the show and Leo defending it by bringing up that there are plenty Spaceniks out there (would love if he wound up at a convention because of this), and Grody to the Max were fantastic moments and great world building. Plus they finally have the base for the Shellraiser so it won't be long now before the great pumpkin err their iconic vehicle appears

You're right Victorious. It just isn't Christmas without you.

As much as I didn't want to I couldn't help but think of you Stryker as that music video played... Only reason I hate your Victorious love is that you still have some time left with it iCarly has already ended... :tcry:

[chrisdude]

The bit with Captain Ryan and the Trumpets cracked me up.
In Star Trek: The Animated Series, they dealt with Tribbles by feeding them to an alien that eats Tribbles. Equally "humane."

[kzekedaurus]

I was not expecting that ending!

Lots of interesting things to note. For one thing, Leatherhead being directly from Dimension X is cool. I wouldn't have known by the opening. And Mikey's trusting nature actually proves him right this time. Anyway, gotta watch this episode again when it comes back on at 9.

Also, finally get to watch the Spongebob Christmas special. Screen Novelties is great as always. Funny fact, Carolyn Lawrence (Sandy) hasn't starred in something stop-motion since Moral Orel.

[XERO]

Great episode. Leatherhead is already growing on me. I can't wait to see the friendship develop between him and the Turtles.

Also... pizza noodle soup sounds pretty gooood.

[Keno]

I loved this episode. Definitely my favourite. Loved Mikey. And everything. Just everything. So perfect.

I love this show!!!

[Forneus]

Leatherhead is pretty much terrifying hahaha! The very end was almost straight out of an horror flick. And did you see his lair?! Spiked traps ahoy! Except this particular croc is on the good side. Poor Kraang! Also, call me crazy but as a massive horror buff, I loved the NOTLD/Romero style attack at the end. It was glorious! I also can't believe how much of a fan I've become of Dr. Namenstein's antics. Mickey's naming of everything has become one of the funniest things in the show.

Seriously, Leatherhead was perfect. Even when he's in a friendlier disposition, you had the feeling he could tear up everything in a blink of an eye. Except for Splinter obviously. He kicks an incredible amount of butt. So good. I haven't seen every incarnation of the character but this is by far, my favorite Splinter ever. He's simply awesome.

[Raph's Girl]

First off: Tribbles!! But not just any Tribbles for these ones honked! :lol: Nice "humane" way to get rid of em Capt. Ryan!

Secondly: Gah!! Cliffhanger ending!! Loved Leatherhead and Splinter fighting. I also noticed that music seemed to sooth the savage beast in him. Nice touch.

[ToTheNines]

So much to love about this episode!

Mainly, this is the first time Leatherhead's name has really "worked" for me, save maybe the Archie books. With Mikey in charge of naming stuff, you can get away with pretty much everything lol.

Splinter is so bad ass. I can't freaking wait to see him and Shredder square off!

The p-shake was hilarious, and Raph's decapitation was the funniest shell-gag in TMNT history. I also laughed pretty hard when the subway car was travelling at warp speed.

Leatherhead's characterization was really good (happy he could speak Crankshaw-cubed?) and it was so cool that he listened to vinyls and lit candles to relax. I also think it's cool that The Kraang are pretty much stranded on Earth now, so I'm sure we'll be seeing LH and that power-cell come into play before long.

Boo to the break though... anyone know when the next new episode premiers?

[Ninjawolf]

I missed it :( any idea when it'll br online or when it reruns?

[BAXTER STOCKMAN 19]

Great episode! I am very sad because we have to wait until January for next episode. Do we know in which day episode 13 will air?

[Turns]

Heh, the name on the shirt of Leatherhead's kid owner was Sid (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=40452).

Dude kinda reminded me of tOkKa (http://www.flickr.com/photos/terrible2z/) too.

I don't remember seeing that but if the kids' shirt does say Sid I'm sure it has nothing to do with Casey's cousin Sid, it is definitely a throw back to the first Movie. April's boss' son Danny wears nothing but Sid Vicious T-shirts throughout the movie one of which is black and says "Sid" very clearly on the back.
http://tmnt.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel_Pennington

I'm not overly fond of Leatherhead's proportions (his chest seems WAY too big relative to his waist). Other than that a pretty good episode. I'm liking the new splinter.

[Powder]

Tothenines said it best, again. Might have even been my favorite episode so far.

[Donatello19]

I love how Mikey's like a chef. In rise of the turtles he made the algae and worms and the cake, and now he's making P-Shakes and Pizza Noodle Soup. :tlol:

[Avatar Yuffie]

Mikey's good heart, daaaaw.

Leo, Raph and Don's Crazy Adventure. Raphael is a troll, btw.

Poor Leatherhead. I love how he tries to be civil but just can't control his rage. Mikey tries so hard to calm him down.

Best Splinter ever. Don't mess with his sons in his home. He'll beat you up.

And hey, the Shellraiser!

The implication that Leatherhead is captured by the Kraang. :/ And now they'll really look for the Turtles because of the power cell.

[Red-eyed Jaguar]

Another great Episode!
Wow, I was amazed by Leatherhead, he's an awesome guy. I liked that he helped the Turtles in the end.

And Splinter..."Leave my Sons alone!" nothing more to add.
Looking forward to the Shellraiser..I loved that Car/Van back in the old Cartoon.
Felt sorry for poor Donnie..he got the A-Card in this Episode |D

I wonder where are the Guys now, in Dimension X? oo

Edit: Question answered..Bah..wasn't paying enough attention <.<;;

[Jephael]

This episode definitly reminded me a lot of "What A Croc", especially Leatherhead's origin story and how it was so heavily connected with the Kraang. Of course in the 4Kids iteration he was trying to build a device to reunite with the Utroms, wheras here he's trying to keep the rest of them at bay. Poor Donatello must be a nervous wreck after getting dragged around by the head like that!

[NiNi]

Love, love, love this episode~!

I really like the concept for this version of LH. It made me particularly smile when he liked Mikey's cooking. ^^

That and in Space Heroes - I love how smug Captain Ryan looked at the end of it. xD

[MrTMNT2012]

Best Episode IMO. Yes, better than 'The Gauntlet'. It had everything!

The comedy was at it's sharpest here, Poor Donny made me laugh soo hard! Especially the second time Leatherhead Grabs his face. Rob Paulsons delivery was top-notch! The Action scenes were badass, from Leatherhead Demolishing Kraang droids to The Battle with the Turtles and of course, the first time we got to see Splinter fight :)

Splinter VS Leatherhead was EPIC to the Max! And I loved the cliffhanger ending, it actually works since this was a mid-season finale, and I can't wait to see how the Sewer Plant location ties to The Rat King!

Great, Amazing Episode! My favourite so far. Leatherhead FTW :)

10/10

[Donatello19]

One thing I don't understand is how the turtles end up in a sewage plant. Isn't that just in NYC? I ask because Leo said "Where the heck are we?"

[demonsweat]

Oh man, great episode. I love LH's design - he looks great, he fights like a beast and best of all, he's retained his uncontrollable rage. I especially liked the little alligator roll they threw in there during one of the fights, it was a nice detail. The flashback sequence showing him mutate from tiny gator to monster was really well done too.

Yeah tribbles! Capt. Ryan's smug little smile as he chucked the furry little things out through the airlock made me laaaugh. :D

I'll say it again: I really love this version of Mikey. I was never too big a fan of his in the previous 'toons, but they nailed him in this one. He's ridiculous and funny, but he's totally the heart of the team. Like someone said, it's like he wants to befriend everyone, or bring home every stray. Maybe a little orange kitty in the near future, eh?

I hope we get Rat King next week. I love this show! :D

[oldmanwinters]

I don't remember seeing that but if the kids' shirt does say Sid I'm sure it has nothing to do with Casey's cousin Sid, it is definitely a throw back to the first Movie. April's boss' son Danny wears nothing but Sid Vicious T-shirts throughout the movie one of which is black and says "Sid" very clearly on the back.
http://tmnt.wikia.com/wiki/Daniel_Pennington


Hmm... I didn't pay too much attention to the kid's dad but now I'm wondering if he might have shared design similarities with Channel 3's Charles Pennington.

[Oculus Orbus]

Can someone please tell me what Donnie says at the end of the episode?

LEO: -Where the heck are we?
DON: -According to my calculations, ...?
MIKEY: -Whoa, it's as beautiful as they say!

I can't seem to understand the phrase. "Switch planet", maybe?

EDIT: Nevermind, Donatello19 mentions it in his comment, "sewage plant".

Sorry for the useless comment.

Loved the episode though, one of my favourites so far.

[Powder]

Sewage plant, I believe.

[Oculus Orbus]

Sewage plant, I believe.

Yeah, that's it. Thank you, Powder.

[Lethal Lullaby]

I loved this episode! Mikey's bond with Leatherhead is adorable. :D
Poor Donatello got grabbed by the face so many times. :tlol:

[Machias Banshee]

Oh my gosh, I loved this episode. Leatherhead is such a character you feel bad for. The flashbacks for his pre-mutated days were incredible. He went through Horrible things with the Kraang.. but there's still something decent deep down. It's like he's suffering PTSD with these bouts of blind rage.. The animators did a great job with his normal alligator tendencies, i.e. the deathroll and the second eyelid. The rail car with the jazz music for his calming down was a really unique touch I liked Very much.

The image of Mike spoon-feeding Leatherhead was just so cute and innocent. A boy and his pet... that should be made into a gif. He seems like a genuinely good figure, outside of his rages.

I think the duct-taped teddybear is a perfect allegory for LH: Damaged, but still plenty of good left in him.



There were so many things to enjoy throughout this episode:


Seeing Splinter finally fight was great.. He's been standing around watching for too long! :D

Donnie constantly getting his face grabbed

Space hero's "Humane" disposal of the faux tribbles.

The warp speed trip to...wherever!


The fact that this is going to be a multi-parter... Fantastic! The show's just getting better and better... :)

[NinjaMan]

Is this really going to be a multi-parter? I assumed that when the next episode air the Turtles will probably be back home and Rat King is a stand alone story.

[Cure]

Yeah, I didn't get the sense it was a multi-parter, either. I figured they ended up at the plant and just found their way home from there.

[Shreddhead]

Another great episode! Anyone else catch the 2001: Space Odyssey reference when the subway car hit lightspeed?

[CyberCubed]

Well we know the next episode introduces Rat King, so its possible that episode does take place at a sewage plant. I guess we'll find out when that ep airs.

This episode was VERY similar to the 4kids episode for Leatherhead. Right down to the Mike/LH friendship.

I guess we probably won't ever see cajun Leatherhead again, he'll truly be the one unique one of the OT era.

[oldmanwinters]

I guess we probably won't ever see cajun Leatherhead again, he'll truly be the one unique one of the OT era.

There's always IDW comics and the movies!

[CyberCubed]

There's always IDW comics and the movies!

True, with the IDW version being so influenced by the OT its possible.

Also did anyone else get a creepy zombie vibe of the Kraang bursting through the subway car? That whole scene was staged creepily, I wonder if the little kids got scared.

[Donatello19]

The image of Mike spoon-feeding Leatherhead was just so cute and innocent. A boy and his pet... that should be made into a gif.

:P http://25.media.tumblr.com/8202e324ac1e13f553c091e00b056c3b/tumblr_mf35veDulx1s01xuso7_r1_250.gif

[BladeEdge86]

We meet Leatherhead and Splinter kicks some serious ass it was a good episode.

[Machias Banshee]

:P http://25.media.tumblr.com/8202e324ac1e13f553c091e00b056c3b/tumblr_mf35veDulx1s01xuso7_r1_250.gif

See? Totally adorable.. :D

[TurtleTitan97]

IGN gave this episode a 7.8: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/12/16/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-it-came-from-the-depths-review

[Lethal Lullaby]

:P http://25.media.tumblr.com/8202e324ac1e13f553c091e00b056c3b/tumblr_mf35veDulx1s01xuso7_r1_250.gif

AWWWWW. :tlove:

IGN gave this episode a 7.8: http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/12/16/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-it-came-from-the-depths-review

Nice. :tcool:

[CyberCubed]

Surprised IGN only gave this one a 7.8. It was definitely better than the one with Dogpound and the go-karts.

[stcardinal]

Surprised IGN only gave this one a 7.8. It was definitely better than the one with Dogpound and the go-karts.

Disagree this was just an okay ep. The go-kart ep has been my favorite so far. I would probably give this ep a 7.8 too. Maybe 7.6.

[Ninjawolf]

Wonder when Leatherhead will show up again? He was awesome in this ep! and I really adore Mickey :)

[blue_angel99]

I loved how Splinter spanked LH.:tlol:

Of all the TMNT characters, I have the most empathy for LH. Abandonded, tortured, emotionally unstable. Plus since he's the only one of his kind, he has no support and eventually is doomed to a life of loneliness.:tcry:

I hope this LH will have a happier ending.:twink:

[electric_sheep]

they said they must notify the krang, i wonder will they introduce the krang, one krang to rule them all...

[electric_sheep]

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/375437_298421280279127_4239668_n.jpg i don't know how no one noticed this but shreder and splinter where in some kind of war, possibly Vietnam...

[Cure]

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/375437_298421280279127_4239668_n.jpg i don't know how no one noticed this but shreder and splinter where in some kind of war, possibly Vietnam...

Uh, maybe because it's been discussed to death before in other threads?

[Powder]

they said they must notify the krang, i wonder will they introduce the krang, one krang to rule them all...

They refer to their group, eachother, & themselves as "The Kraang".

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/375437_298421280279127_4239668_n.jpg i don't know how no one noticed this but shreder and splinter where in some kind of war, possibly Vietnam...

Love it when a new guy comes through and assumes we've all missed out on something when they're the one who's late to the party. :tlol:

[franken_stein]

Wonderful episode! I was so happy with the way they debuted Leatherhead. I do have to admit that I miss the Cajun accent, but I like this version so much I can let that go, haha.

I cracked up so hard at Donnie's face being attacked so many times... and then by one of the Kraang at the end. Poor Donnie.

Also, I've never really been much into Star Trek, but I know enough about it to get most of the references. But now I think I HAVE to at least watch the Tribbles episode. I kind of can't believe I haven't seen the real thing yet, after seeing references all over the place (I loved the one in Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends). This one from Space Heroes takes the cake though!

I like the idea of that abandoned subway car being their new mode of transport, too! Kinda seems like a more legit way to make their new ride than... stealing Baxter's car, I guess, haha. I always thought that part was so hilarious. They just...... took it. But then I guess whenever Baxter returned (even before he was a fly) he never demanded it back or anything, so it was all cool between them about the van :P

[electric_sheep]

They refer to their group, eachother, & themselves as "The Kraang".



Love it when a new guy comes through and assumes we've all missed out on something when they're the one who's late to the party. :tlol:

i was looking for that, where is that thread?

[Route77]

This was the funniest episode to date. I laughed out loud so many times I had to rewind the DVR because my laughter kept making me miss the dialogue.
Loved Leatherhead too. Great ep.

[Jester]

So many great lines:
Who wants to try my latest creation? We all love pizza. We all love milk shakes. So I combined them!
Ok, that could not be less appetizing.
*revealed a golden concoction*
I call it a P-shake.
I stand corrected!

He's not a monster! He's a giant Kraang crushing mutant alligator monster! I said, "Monster!" didn't I?
Yep.
Sure did.
Uh huh.
Well, you know what I meant!
I thought you meant, "Monster!"
Me, too.
Yep.

He had me by the FACE, Mikey!

It's like you always say, "The enemy of my enemy is my bro."
The is not exactly what i said...

You made a wise decision, Michelangelo.
*Leo, Raph and Don are audibly surprised.*
Yes, I never thought I'd hear myself say that either.
(a bit much...but still funny.)

But...we're still chaining him up, right?
Of course. I'm compassionate, not insane.

Your head is kinda leathery. How 'bout "Headleather"! "Heather"? No wait. "Leathrhead", even better!

Hey you guys, Leatherhead is totally off the chain!
You mean you set him free!?
What? No! "Off the chain" means "he's cool."
*The others sigh in relief*
And that's why I set him free!
(This line made me laugh way too hard.)

Maybe you forgot he grabbed me by the face, so I'll remind you. He grabbed me...BY THE FACE!!

*LH grabs Donnie again....by the face*
OH COME ON! This is not my day!

Give to Kraang the power cell that Kraang has come to demand that you give to Kraang.
It's the Kraang!
(I feel there's a missing "What was your first clue!?")


Really growing to love Space Heroes. Just call me a Space-nick.
Grody to the Max: Interesting name for a TV news show in the vain of Nancy Grace.
Love Mikey's compassion for LH. Really makes up for all the "Mikey is so dumb" talk.
Protective Splinter=awesome.
Leatherhead's origin almost plays out like, dare I say it, a Mirror universe version of his Mirage counterpart....you know where the Utrom (is plural for Utrom "Utrom" or "Utroms"?) were EVIL!
I sooo hope the dimensional portal comes into play soon. Heck, maybe that's out season 1 finale, much in the vein of the IDW books and the Mirage books before them. The Turtles are accidentally transported to Dimension X.
The eye in the tunnel...2001 reference, or Willy Wonka reference?

[Vivi]

Great ep, especially as we're getting to learn a little more about the Kraang :tcool:

Does anyone else sense a technodrome in the future?

Anyway, Leatherhead is a cool character. He and Traximus are my favourite non-tmnt reptiles.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Well we know the next episode introduces Rat King, so its possible that episode does take place at a sewage plant. I guess we'll find out when that ep airs.

This episode was VERY similar to the 4kids episode for Leatherhead. Right down to the Mike/LH friendship.

I guess we probably won't ever see cajun Leatherhead again, he'll truly be the one unique one of the OT era.

How do we know the upcoming episode isn't set before. 1 December had no episode, so mabye "I, Monster" was moved, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_(2012)_episod es

[Green Machine]

I just watched it again and I think Leatherhead is without a doubt my favorite non-turtle mutant of this show so far.

And I think this Splinter is my favorite Splinter ever.

[MrTMNT2012]

We need a Nickelodeon Leatherhead Figure ASAP. And please have it in proper scale!

I'm really liking this development for The Kraang btw, they started off as just some goofy villains but now they actually have a goal and plan ready for the main heroes! I wish we got more Leonardo Episodes though, I know they're coming but they're few and far between.
Can't wait for The Rat King though! 2013, come on already :) (assuming the world doesn't end by then....which it won't but just saiyan)

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome episode. Loved the debut of Leatherhead and the Space Heroes episode as well. LH's origins were very well done, and I felt sorry for him having to go through all of that. But the best part was that we actually got to see Splinter fight! I've been waiting for that for so long, and it finally happened and was awesome. Don't mess with Splinter's sons. Overall, a really good episode. Poor Donnie getting grabbed by the face! I loved Mikey's compassion and how he wanted to give LH another chance after LH attacked them.

Fave quotes:

Leo: We are not bringing that monster home.
Mikey: He's not a monster. He's a Kraang crushing mutant alligator monster. I just said monster, didn't I?
Everyone: Uh-huh.
Mikey: Well, you know what I meant.
Raph: I thought you meant monster.

Raph: You've got to be the only one in the world who likes this show.
Leo: No way. There are tons of Space-Nicks everywhere.

Splinter: A true monster is one who lacks compassion.

So, that's my review. Have a happy holiday, guys.

[CyberCubed]

They refer to their group, eachother, & themselves as "The Kraang".

Indeed, but it does seem quite likely they're building up to Krang himself, especially since we know Dimension X and Traag are coming.

[FoxZerro]

Oh man, great episode. I love LH's design - he looks great, he fights like a beast and best of all, he's retained his uncontrollable rage. I especially liked the little alligator roll they threw in there during one of the fights, it was a nice detail. The flashback sequence showing him mutate from tiny gator to monster was really well done too.


I completely agree, very nice way to show the mutation process... I can't believe I forgot to mention how fantastic I thought that sequence was... Actually I can, because as great as it was so much other fantastic stuff happened that my mind must have been overloaded... Yeah thats it:tlol:

[Allio]

I guess we probably won't ever see cajun Leatherhead again, he'll truly be the one unique one of the OT era.

isn't that awesome

[Moe]

My favourite line is
"That gator-dude needs our help, I can't wait around for you cowards!"
Brilliant Mikey moment right there.

I also like the way Donnie and Leo looked at Raph when the news report said there was a monster in the sewer.

Donnie's response to what the power cell could be used for was great too "Flashlight, blaster cannon...city on the moon."

I would love to see Leatherhead against Dogpound in a future episode, I think that would be a very interesting fight.

[CyberCubed]

I think this episode is a preview of how dark this show could get. Is there a doubt in anyone's mind that Leatherhead killed those Kraang at the end if the episode?

The Turtles never actually stab the Kraang an only slice the robots but Leatherhead probably either ripped or chewed apart their brains.

[Forneus]

I would love to see Leatherhead against Dogpound in a future episode, I think that would be a very interesting fight. Oh man! I didn't even think of that. Thanks to this episode I kept matching up Splinter against everything in my mind, but you are so right. Leatherhead needs to stick around and throw down with some mutants in the future. He should be a permanent fixture of the show. He was that cool!

[ToTheNines]

Couple random things:

Did anyone else think Mikey's lip syncing was way off right before he jumped in to help LH?

Don finally used his Naginata feature again, but not in combat.

I'm really hungry for some pizza gyoza or pizza-noodle soup.

[CyberCubed]

I'm surprised the Pi-Shake name made it passed the censors. I can just imagine kids asking their parents for a "pee shake" which is all kinds of wrong.

[Ninjinister]

I'm surprised the Pi-Shake name made it passed the censors. I can just imagine kids asking their parents for a "pee shake" which is all kinds of wrong.

Yes, because this is the first children's show to make a pee joke.

[Raph's Girl]

But now I think I HAVE to at least watch the Tribbles episode.

There's more than one Tribble ep. In order there's:
Trouble With Tribbles (TOS)
Trials and Tribble-ations (TOS-DS9 crossover set durring Trouble With Tribbles)
More Trouble, More Tribbles (TAS ep)

Plus they appear briefly in the movies and one appeared in an episode of Enterprise where Dr. Phlox was feeding it to one of his pets. And there was also a recent comic book that showed their origins.

You can also go to tribbletoys.com for tribble related memorabilia. :D

*hums to the SPOCK song Trouble With Tribbles*

[Desslok]

Does anyone else sense a technodrome in the future?

That's where my mind immediately went after Donatello mentioned that the power cell could be used to power "anything." Of course then Leatherhead explained the portal, so maybe maybe not. :twink:

[Coola Yagami]

Finally my thoughts on the episode, since yesterday was a busy day for me.

http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2012/12/nicktoons-tmnt-episode-12-it-came-from.html

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Indeed, but it does seem quite likely they're building up to Krang himself, especially since we know Dimension X and Traag are coming.

Isn't their supposed to be a female kraang coming up? Could that be who they are referring to, maybe Krang in a female form?

Couple random things:

Did anyone else think Mikey's lip syncing was way off right before he jumped in to help LH?

Thank you! I'm not the only one who saw that! I thought i was going crazy.

[CyberCubed]

Where did the idea of a female Kraang come from? Anyone have a source?

[BubblyShell22]

It's in the official info thread. I think they mentioned it at Comic Con or something.

[ToTheNines]

Where did the idea of a female Kraang come from? Anyone have a source?

Ciro Nieli and Rob Paulsen mentioned it on Talkin' Toons. She/they/it will be voiced by Cassandra Peterson aka Elvira.

[Donatello19]

A think introducing a female Kraang would be interesting. Would she be the leader of all of the Kraang though?

[CyberCubed]

God I hope not. Although its likely she'll be like a Queen or something. Similar to a Queen Bee.

We still need Krang though. Perhaps he broke off from his group due to his intelligence and started conquering Dimension X.

[Drose18]

Thank you! I'm not the only one who saw that! I thought i was going crazy.

Oyyyyy don sounded so stupid also it was not off but it was just wrong.

[Donatello19]

Perhaps he broke off from his group due to his intelligence and started conquering Dimension X.
Or, he could have sent his army to earth while he stood in dimension x so they could experiment on the mutagen or whatever.

[CyberCubed]

If Krang himself appears, I'm sure he'll be intelligent like he is in the OT and IDW and not speak in gibberish like the other Kraang.

Also hoping they address the added, "a" in the Kraang name, hopefully Krang himself won't have that.

[ToTheNines]

If Krang himself appears, I'm sure he'll be intelligent like he is in the OT and IDW and not speak in gibberish like the other Kraang.

Also hoping they address the added, "a" in the Kraang name, hopefully Krang himself won't have that.

You are now a parody of yourself. Ignore list.

[Xav]

We still need Krang though. Perhaps he broke off from his group due to his intelligence and started conquering Dimension X.And why exactly do we need Krang?

[sdp]

Episode wasn't bad but I wanted a little more. I think Leatherhead is such a cool character but I've been let down by all his incarnations, Cajun leatherhead was a joke and nothing how I imagined him as a kid. 2k3 was a good guy that barely did anything like in Mirage and this version seems to be close to that. I wish he had been more of a villain at first somehow, hopefully he does something in the show unlike 2k3 leatherhead who after his first appearance he kinda was just there.

[Luzmagica]

Awwwwww!!! So lovely chapter!!!! :tlove: :tlove: :tparty:

Just adding to all the previous great moments everybody pointed ....two else I think no were posted:

Pretty Mikey´s " puppy look" when he look at Leo asking for petting LH. :trazz:
The horror faces of Leo and Don when they think was Raph without head!!!! :lol:

I voted this poll for Splinter´s "stay away from my sons"! Tho. much more sweet lines this time!!!!! :twink:

[Xav]

Except this particular croc is on the good side.Don't you mean gator?

[BubblyShell22]

God I hope not. Although its likely she'll be like a Queen or something. Similar to a Queen Bee.

We still need Krang though. Perhaps he broke off from his group due to his intelligence and started conquering Dimension X.

What's wrong with a female being a leader? I think it would be a nice change from the norm.

[Lameonardo]

I really liked Leatherhead's design; very detailed and imposing. His backstory's great and it gave us more information on the Kraang and an explanation for why they're hanging around. I assume the eye was the Technodrome, but that left me wondering how the portal activates and thinking it will accidentally open at some point while Don's messing around with the power cell or something.

Splinter's my favorite character in this series and I loved that he finally has some action scenes. I hope he gets more involved in the fighting later on.

[Teddy]

Ok, I'm pretty sure the blinking eye was just a reference to the Twilight Zone, and not the Technodrome. While they're going at warp speed on the subway car they also see spirals and other crazy stuff, very reminiscent of the Twilight Zone intros. ;)

Anyway, another awesome episode! I'm really enjoying this new series. :tsmile:

[Coola Yagami]

What's wrong with a female being a leader? I think it would be a nice change from the norm.

They like their Star Trek references... so it wouldn't be surprising that they go with the Borg Queen idea and use a female Kraang as their hive mind queen.

[AT-Man]

I hope the leader/female Kraang is like the Mother Brain from Metroid. It should be incredibly grotesque.

Great episode, btw. Finally some awesome Splinter action too.

[Lameonardo]

Ok, I'm pretty sure the blinking eye was just a reference to the Twilight Zone, and not the Technodrome. While they're going at warp speed on the subway car they also see spirals and other crazy stuff, very reminiscent of the Twilight Zone intros. ;)

Good point. I did think Outer Limits/Twilight Zone with the spirals too. I actually hope it's just a reference like that and not an indication of the Technodrome; which I'm not too eager to see.

[FoxZerro]

Good point. I did think Outer Limits/Twilight Zone with the spirals too. I actually hope it's just a reference like that and not an indication of the Technodrome; which I'm not too eager to see.

After watching it again I definitely think it was a reference to those two shows... First time I was too busy hoping that the warp tunnel would go plaid to notice the other reference.

Plus I agree as much as the Technodrome was iconic in the OT, I'd prefer to keep the giant metal rolling fortress of doom out of the Nick Turtles World

[demonsweat]

Did anyone else think Mikey's lip syncing was way off right before he jumped in to help LH?

Oyyyyy don sounded so stupid also it was not off but it was just wrong.

I caught the bad lip synch too and thought the same thing. I just watched it again now and I don't think it's a bad synch - it looks like they overdubbed Mikey's line. He's kind of trash talking them here (I don't have time to wait around for you cowards, etc.) Maybe he said something they couldn't get past the censors?


What's wrong with a female being a leader? I think it would be a nice change from the norm.

Seconded.


I hope the leader/female Kraang is like the Mother Brain from Metroid. It should be incredibly grotesque.

That would be awesome. Big ol' nasty Mama Kraang. :D

[MrTMNT2012]

I caught the bad lip synch too and thought the same thing. I just watched it again now and I don't think it's a bad synch - it looks like they overdubbed Mikey's line. He's kind of trash talking them here (I don't have time to wait around for you cowards, etc.) Maybe he said something they couldn't get past the censors?

Mikes original line was:" I can't wait around for you F#*king pu$$ys"

True fact.....

[demonsweat]

Mikes original line was:" I can't wait around for you F#*king pu$$ys"

True fact.....

HAHAHA! Now there's an outtake I'd pay to see. :lol:

[Red-eyed Jaguar]

Pretty Mikey´s " puppy look" when he look at Leo asking for petting LH. :trazz:
The horror faces of Leo and Don when they think was Raph without head!!!! :lol:

Indeed |D
Not to mention he was the first one to be shown to make use of his Turtle features.

[Pachira]

I thought Leatherhead would not speak.. he had intellect. He is Mikey's true friend.
I expect appearing "Cockroach Terminator". :tgrin:

[Darth Knuckles]

This was probably my second favorite episode behind "The Gauntlet". Leatherhead was great! I was glad he was an actual alligator and not a human turned into an animal. He was tough and I liked his voice. I think he's going to work out somewhat close to how I wanted him to as a friend/enemy type.

It was great to see the turtles actually walk around the sewer for once in this series. I enjoyed that. I also really liked to see Splinter in action and their home being threatened, even if it wasn't a big threat to their lair. The subway car was interesting. It reminded me of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III of course and I do wonder if Donnie will use the subway car for something and if they'll use the Kraang's "battery" for something too.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, I am also glad they didn't use the one-time "human Jess Harley" origin for Leatherhead either. I hate the idea of Leatherhead being human and that's one of the few things I dislike about the Archie comics.

Glad to see him remain a normal gator in Mirage, OT, 4kids, Nick, and hopefully IDW.

[Jester]

I've always felt that once human Leatherhead, like Splinter, was a more tragic character, but to each their own.

[MikeandRaph87]

I am disappointed in the fact that Leatherhead is not evil!:( He feels defined as a villain, not as the cajun accented catchphrase filled, revenge driven bully but just the fact he was a villain. While the episode was a great character piece and added mystery to the Kraang its just Leatherhead not being evil...maybe Tom and gang will give that to me because as Mick sang ,"You Can't Always Get What You Want". :)

[Moe]

I didn't mention it before but I'm really getting annoyed by how they're treating Donnie in this show. Mikey might be foolish in this show, and come off as a bit dim, but the butt of the jokes most often ends up being Donnie.

He is pretty much always shown as being weaker, more vulnerable and just in general seems to be everyones punching bag. He gets a few golden moments, but they're really few and far between. This episode really is a perfect example of that Don constantly gets joked about and pushed around and it wasn't the first time he got pressured to hurry up while messing with complicated alien technology that could easily kill him. And no one even complimented him on his ability to actually make the subway car work and save all their butts.

And in future episodes the subway car will become the Shellraiser and even though its entirely Donnie's baby it will be Leo who gets to drive it, just like in the opening sequences.

[MikeandRaph87]

I didn't mention it before but I'm really getting annoyed by how they're treating Donnie in this show. Mikey might be foolish in this show, and come off as a bit dim, but the butt of the jokes most often ends up being Donnie.

He is pretty much always shown as being weaker, more vulnerable and just in general seems to be everyones punching bag. He gets a few golden moments, but they're really few and far between. This episode really is a perfect example of that Don constantly gets joked about and pushed around and it wasn't the first time he got pressured to hurry up while messing with complicated alien technology that could easily kill him. And no one even complimented him on his ability to actually make the subway car work and save all their butts.

And in future episodes the subway car will become the Shellraiser and even though its entirely Donnie's baby it will be Leo who gets to drive it, just like in the opening sequences.

Its what I said since day one,I think Nickelodeon views Don as the least popular of the four(is he really? who knows.). To curb that they took parts of what made Raphael originally popular, in other words his sarcasm and his voice and gave it to Don! Add to that the crush on April thing and that is Nick's way of trying to make Don more appealing. Personally, and perhaps its just me,but I STILL hear Raphael x 2 only one of the two Raph's is the intellectual.

[zkarlette]

I feel like Don is being given quite a big amount of spotlight and we had a bigger glimpse of Leo's personality,which is a nice change, if anything Raph has been the one that has been stuck a little to the background but it's ok since it sort of making up For all the others series, he is a pretty strong personality anyways.

[Red-eyed Jaguar]

And in future episodes the subway car will become the Shellraiser and even though its entirely Donnie's baby it will be Leo who gets to drive it, just like in the opening sequences.
Well, in the OT everyone got to drive the Van. I think it will be the same here..even so I have issues imaging Mikey to drive it |D""

[Powder]

To curb that they took parts of what made Raphael originally popular, in other words his sarcasm and his voice and gave it to Don!

Have you ever even watched the OT? Donny was just as sarcastic and witty as Raph, if not MORE.

[CyberCubed]

I guess they just don't want a, "villain" Leatherhead anymore. Its more true to the Mirage incarnation of the character I guess.

And shockingly enough, Leatherhead was a villain in only ONE series, which was of course the OT. Even the Archie comics made him a good guy right at the end of his first appearance.

[LH]

I am disappointed in the fact that Leatherhead is not evil!:( He feels defined as a villain, not as the cajun accented catchphrase filled, revenge driven bully but just the fact he was a villain. While the episode was a great character piece and added mystery to the Kraang its just Leatherhead not being evil...maybe Tom and gang will give that to me because as Mick sang ,"You Can't Always Get What You Want". :)

I'm actually really happy he is not a villian. I like how they portrayed him as a character. He can be destructive, yes. But as Splinter said he has a pure heart. It really adds more to the "don't judge a book by it's cover" moral the way they went with it. Plus, it's always nice for the turtles to get another mutant on the team that can help them.:twink:

[zkarlette]

There seems to be enough evil mutants anyway.

[Dane E5R]

I hate to be that guy, but... Did it bother anyone that he looked like a crocodile? Don't cast stones, I loved the episode, but that was the one little nitpicky thing that was throwing me off.

[ToTheNines]

Call me a dummy, but I never bothered to learn the differences between the two anyways lol.

[VaughnMichael]

I've always felt that once human Leatherhead, like Splinter, was a more tragic character, but to each their own.
Same here man.
But this is Cybercubed so it's just a given he'd hate it.

[kaushalsingh]

Such a fun to see Splinter in action:D...

[Darth Knuckles]

I hate to be that guy, but... Did it bother anyone that he looked like a crocodile? Don't cast stones, I loved the episode, but that was the one little nitpicky thing that was throwing me off.

Yeah I have to say that I noticed it and it did bother me a bit. I guess it makes more sense that he's an alligator seeing as he was bought from a pet shop in the U.S. but he does look like a crocodile. I'd prefer him be a crocodile but then his origin would have to sync up with that. They could have found him in Africa or Australia for his story but that may have been too complicated for a simple origin story.

I also liked the idea that The Kraang haven't been able to do anything else "otherworldly" because Leatherhead has their power source to be able to do so. That does explain the reason why The Kraang seem stuck at the moment and can't defeat the turtles.

I'm a big fan of the Archie comics and I do appreciate Leatherhead as a human. I do like the idea and it is more tragic. I think I overall prefer him as an animal though. I hope the series can make Leatherhead more of a wild card character. Maybe he's not a pure villain to the turtles but they could make him where he doesn't always want to help them either. That way when he does for an extreme case, it will be more of a surprise.

[FoxZerro]

Its what I said since day one,I think Nickelodeon views Don as the least popular of the four(is he really? who knows.). To curb that they took parts of what made Raphael originally popular, in other words his sarcasm and his voice and gave it to Don! Add to that the crush on April thing and that is Nick's way of trying to make Don more appealing. Personally, and perhaps its just me,but I STILL hear Raphael x 2 only one of the two Raph's is the intellectual.

I'm not sure where you're living but here on the East Coast I have to say that Donatello is clearly the favorite turtle of casual fans. Every comic event I've been to all I see is Donatello represented. Not to mention if you look at the toys and collectibles section of this very forum you will see that Donatello is the one that people are having the most trouble finding.

Also women seem to like Donatello the most which has lead me to call him the "Edward Cullen of Ninja Turtles" on more than one occassion. I feel that desire to be loved by Donatello is what led to the development of crush on April thing. Its like throwing those girls who want to be done like a machine by Donatello a bone.


I also liked the idea that The Kraang haven't been able to do anything else "otherworldly" because Leatherhead has their power source to be able to do so. That does explain the reason why The Kraang seem stuck at the moment and can't defeat the turtles.


Didn't occur to me until I read this, but it seems odd that if Leatherhead is the one thing standing in their way of complete domination of our dimension. Then why have they been bothering with some of the other things we've seen. I mean the kidnapping of scientists makes sense, have them try and develop a replacement power source. The mutation bomb though I just don't see what how that would have aided them at all.

[Bossa Nova]

Also women seem to like Donatello the most which has lead me to call him the "Edward Cullen of Ninja Turtles" on more than one occassion. I feel that desire to be loved by Donatello is what led to the development of crush on April thing. Its like throwing those girls who want to be done like a machine by Donatello a bone.


Wow, seriously? It's comments like this that make me never want to mention Don as being my favorite Turtle again lest I be stereotyped into THAT stereotype. Jeez dude, women can like Turtles ( or even call them "cute" or "sexy") without having some inner fantasy about wanting to be done by one of them. Ugh.

[FoxZerro]

Wow, seriously? It's comments like this that make me never want to mention Don as being my favorite Turtle again lest I be stereotyped into THAT stereotype. Jeez dude, women can like Turtles ( or even call them "cute" or "sexy") without having some inner fantasy about wanting to be done by one of them. Ugh.

If you're not one of those that wants to be done like a machine by Donatello, then I don't know why you would take offense to the comment. Its something that I've unfortunately noticed in regard to Ninja Turtle fantasies. I don't agree with it and I don't support it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist in the world.

[BlueLightning]

I loved this episode, it was on par with "The Gauntlet", only a little more rounded. This Leatherhead is great, just like his Mirage and 2k3 counterpart. And Mikey was awesome, as some said he is the heart of the group, and Splinter fighting was awesome. I loved the ending, Leatherhead appears to be more lethal this time. Also, I really hope that the eye was some foreshadowing for the technodrome. It would be an spectacle to behold!

[zodiac brave]

finally got to watch this ep. lol, this was such a fun episode. like, all around! mikey being "cute" is one of the best things about this show and donnie getting the brunt of the violence is pretty funny too. not, that i hate donnie, its just funny... i think LH is gonna be pretty awesome, hopefully as an on-going ally. the ep got pretty dark at times, too. the zombie-esque way the kraang-bots were trying to get the bros was especially cool. also, yes...splinter finally shows some skills!

as for the female kraang, ciro nieli talked about it on talkin toons with rob paulsen. she's gonna be voiced by cassandra peterson aka elvira, mistress of the dark! thats so f**kin' tuff!

this is was a GREAT episode!

[TurtleMaster4]

Sorry if some one mentioned this, but it Seems as if this episode was ended on a cliff hanger, soo, the Kraang they were talking about at the end, could that be…..

[CyberCubed]

The next episode is about Rat King so its unlikely that this was a cliffhanger.

[NinjaPug]

Has it been confirmed the Rat King is in the next episode or is it just an assumption based on the episode title?

[ToTheNines]

It's titled "I, Monster" (same as RK's debut issue in Tales), & the alternate title is "Rat Trap". Plus his fully rendered CGI model was showcased months ago.

More of a deduction rather than an assumption.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

The next episode is about Rat King so its unlikely that this was a cliffhanger.

A cliffhanger does not have to be resolved the very next episode.

[CyberCubed]

It is possible the Rat King ep takes place in that sewage plant the train left them at during the end of the episode. It'll be similar to how they first met Rat King in Mirage and 4kids, they met him at an abandoned power plant rather than in the sewers.

[n-zero]

So over in the Comic forum, there has been discussion about how the Mighty Mutanimals could be brought in. In the Nick series, we have:

Leatherhead -

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121215093715/tmnt/images/b/b4/Angry_Leatherhead.png

Mutant alligator with a severe grudge against the Kraang.

and

First Pass Concept Art for:

Wingnut and Screwloose

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdusohtnTV1r2nvplo1_500.jpg

Who have a grudge against Krang, which could be changed into a grudge against the Kraang in this series.

They might very well be on their way to building a meaner Kraang-busting team to be allies and rivals for teh Turtles.

[CyberCubed]

I think Mondo Gecko, Ray Fillet, Merdude and Napoleon Bonafrog could easily appear in this show.

I think Jaguar/Dreadmon might be ignored though, they're more obscure Archie characters who never got toys.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Great episode! Loved it

[LH]

So over in the Comic forum, there has been discussion about how the Mighty Mutanimals could be brought in. In the Nick series, we have:

Leatherhead -

(image)

Mutant alligator with a severe grudge against the Kraang.

and

First Pass Concept Art for:

Wingnut and Screwloose

(image)

Who have a grudge against Krang, which could be changed into a grudge against the Kraang in this series.

They might very well be on their way to building a meaner Kraang-busting team to be allies and rivals for teh Turtles.

That's a really cool theory! Not to mention it would give us some awesome team-up battles.:tgrin:

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I think Mondo Gecko, Ray Fillet, Merdude and Napoleon Bonafrog could easily appear in this show.

I think Jaguar/Dreadmon might be ignored though, they're more obscure Archie characters who never got toys.

I want all 4 Punk frogs to appear, complete with leaping awesome-ness.

[Xav]

Call me a dummy, but I never bothered to learn the differences between the two anyways lol.You're a dummy.

[Jester]

Your a dummy.
I usually let typos go, because I can't spell half the time, but this is priceless....

Can you really call someone a dummy and use the wrong form of "you're"?

[Donatello19]

Is there a new episode this Saturday or no because of the holidays?

[ToTheNines]

Last week was the "midseason finale", so we'll be turtle-less for a little bit.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Is there a new episode this Saturday or no because of the holidays?

I think it starts again mid-January.

[Donatello19]

Last week was the "midseason finale", so we'll be turtle-less for a little bit.

I think it starts again mid-January.

Okay, thanks guys.

[Shark_Blade]

Just watched this. What a great episode, I enjoyed thoroughly till the end.
So much heart and humor.

This is an amazing series, bravo on a brilliant first season. Can't wait for the second season to start.

[BubblyShell22]

The first season hasn't even ended yet. They're just on a short break. The second season probably won't start until September.

[ToTheNines]

So this kinda confused the sh*t outta me: In "The Gauntlet" Kirby says that The Kraang want to refine the mutagen because it doesn't work the same way on Earth as it does in Dimension X due to the laws of physics being different here or whatever. But Leatherhead says that he was taken back to Dimension X and mutated there... yet he's no different than any Earth mutant we've seen thus far.

Any thoughts?

[demonsweat]

So this kinda confused the sh*t outta me: In "The Gauntlet" Kirby says that The Kraang want to refine the mutagen because it doesn't work the same way on Earth as it does in Dimension X due to the laws of physics being different here or whatever. But Leatherhead says that he was taken back to Dimension X and mutated there... yet he's no different than any Earth mutant we've seen thus far.

Any thoughts?

Hm, good catch. Well here's a thought - LH was mutated into a humanoid form, but it's unlikely he last touched a human while in Dimension X. Maybe that's the difference here on Earth, that coming in contact with other life forms screws up the process by mixing their DNA with each other. LH could be 100% croc, just highly evolved.

[ToTheNines]

Ah, good thought. Makes me wonder what its intended effect on humans is then.

[demonsweat]

Superhuman soldiers would be my guess. It's gotta be hard to conquer the universe when you're a race of soft, squishy blobs. :D

[LH]

Hm, good catch. Well here's a thought - LH was mutated into a humanoid form, but it's unlikely he last touched a human while in Dimension X. Maybe that's the difference here on Earth, that coming in contact with other life forms screws up the process by mixing their DNA with each other. LH could be 100% croc, just highly evolved.

Ah, good thought. Makes me wonder what its intended effect on humans is then.

Superhuman soldiers would be my guess. It's gotta be hard to conquer the universe when you're a race of soft, squishy blobs. :D

Of course! It all makes sense...

The Kraang found Leatherhead, knew he was a feared species on earth, and decided to evolve him to something that could be controlled. They experimented not only on his body, but they attempted to gain complete control of his brain. Leatherhead resisted, escaped, and that's why he has(had?) his episodes of rage.

You guys are really one to something!:tgrin:

[ToTheNines]

Kinda random, but this episode is currently on the "most watched" list in the kids section of Comcast OnDemand. Pretty cool.

[BubblyShell22]

That's cool. And it makes sense why the human transformations keep getting messed up while the animal to mutant transformations seem to work.

[LH]

Kinda random, but this episode is currently on the "most watched" list in the kids section of Comcast OnDemand. Pretty cool.

Awesome! That's great news! :tsmile:

[snake]

Awesome! That's great news! :tsmile:

I probably helped get ' It Came From The Depths ' up there, I watched it over 15 times :tgrin::tsmile:

[Shark_Blade]

Yep. It's my most favorite episode of Nick's TMNT.

[snake]

Yep. It's my most favorite episode of Nick's TMNT.

The new rat king ep was great too! Now leatherhead is still first but I,Monster is my second fav

[Vegeta]

The new rat king ep was great too! Now leatherhead is still first but I,Monster is my second fav

I second that statement

[Warhorse]

Great episode. Definitely loved the "HE GRABBED ME, BY THE FACE!"

And I also loved the reaction of Leo and Donnie when they thought Raphael got his head cut off. Too funny.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, poor Donnie. He keeps getting grabbed by the face.

[Sumac]

Leatherhead in da house!!
They approached him pretty much the same as in 2k3 series. Good episode, but gimmick of Leatherhead turning from beast to gentle giant was played too much.

[ToTheNines]

Continuity question, 12 years later. Just now occurred to me that Leatherhead stole the power cell 6 months before the events of this episode.

Were The Kraang already stranded on Earth when the show started? I don’t recall their portal ever working until the end of season 1, but it’s been a while since I did a full series marathon.

[Zog The Magnificent]

Continuity question, 12 years later. Just now occurred to me that Leatherhead stole the power cell 6 months before the events of this episode.

Were The Kraang already stranded on Earth when the show started? I don’t recall their portal ever working until the end of season 1, but it’s been a while since I did a full series marathon.

Yes, the Kraang didn't make use of their portal until episode 17 "TCRI," having stolen the power cell back from the Shellraiser in the previous episode. After that point, they had full access to the resources of Dimension X.

[ToTheNines]

Ok thank you. So LH took the portal out of commission about 4 months before the start of the show, by my count.

Only realized this because this episode was adapted to a kids book called “Mikey’s Monster” and I’ve been reading it to the lad. He loves it and we just watched the episode for the first time today. Still holds up!

[The Great Saiyaman]

Continuity question, 12 years later. Just now occurred to me that Leatherhead stole the power cell 6 months before the events of this episode.

Were The Kraang already stranded on Earth when the show started? I don’t recall their portal ever working until the end of season 1, but it’s been a while since I did a full series marathon.

Well, both Kurtzman and Kraang Subprime have said that the Kraang invasion was ancient, heck Kraang Prime himself said that the Kraang were responsible for mutating Monkeys into human beings. So yeah, they have been on earth for a VERY long time.

[ToTheNines]

Right. I just meant “stranded” as in every Kraang on Earth was cut off from Dimension X during most of Season 1.

[The Great Saiyaman]

Right. I just meant “stranded” as in every Kraang on Earth was cut off from Dimension X during most of Season 1.

Ah okay. No problem.