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Xav
12-13-2012, 12:51 AM
Despite the face that Dogpound is well a dog, I fine them to be quite similar. They both are large brutes who fight mainly with their fists. They both are extremely loyal to Shredder. They both order around the Purple Dragons, and they both mistreat Baxter Stockman. In fact I found their personalities to be similar too. The way he treats Xever is similar to how Hun treated Baxter in the 2k3 toon.

zkarlette
12-13-2012, 02:38 AM
You are right, there are lots of similarities, but I hope that the actual Hun shows up at some point later on.

Candy Kappa
12-13-2012, 02:47 AM
Dogpound is the new powerhouse among Shredder's ranks, so yes.

Avatar Yuffie
12-13-2012, 06:23 AM
Dogpound looks like an expy of Hun and Rahzar.

Jephael
12-13-2012, 06:41 AM
Man, I'm having de-ja-vue. Back in '03, everyone kept saying "Is Hun the new Rocksteady?"

Vivi
12-13-2012, 06:49 AM
They are both hulkingly large, fairly intelligent, and could be considered the right-hand man of their respective Shredders. So in many ways, yes.

I wonder if Bradford being part dog has made him more loyal than he originally was, however.

CyberCubed
12-13-2012, 07:23 AM
Every series Shredder has two similar henchmen:

Bebop and Rocksteady

Rahzar and Tokka

Hun and Baxter

Dogpound and Xever



But yeah, Dogpound is VERY similar to Hun.

pannoni1
12-13-2012, 07:47 AM
They are both hulkingly large, fairly intelligent, and could be considered the right-hand man of their respective Shredders. So in many ways, yes.

I wonder if Bradford being part dog has made him more loyal than he originally was, however.

Its still early with regards to how is mind will progress, but it had a negative impact on Rocksteady, who was originally one tough gang member. Hun was never mutated, so he always remained loyal to the Shredder from beginning to end. Its also weird though that Rhinos are large mammals yet it didn't make Rocksteady any bigger and even though the biggest dogs are much smaller than humans, it made Chris Bradford much larger, so perhaps the larger size had a positive impact on his mutation with regards to his ability. Fishface/Xever though seems to be much worse off than Bebop, not even moving from Shredder's hideout since his mutation. This Nick series of henchmen is the first in which there is a "Strong-Weak" bond, where Dogpound will frequently be put down by Fishface that could limit his potential. At least the "Weak-Weak" bond that was Rocksteady & Bebop was stable that just didn't work well against the Turtles and caused the series to be slapsticky, whereas Tokka & Rahzar (who in this case were animals turned mutants which universally has a positive power upgrade) along with Hun & either Baxter or Bishop were "Strong-strong" bonds that contributed to the deep action of Movie II and the 4kids series.

Xav
12-13-2012, 01:26 PM
Hun was never mutated, so he always remained loyal to the Shredder from beginning to end.Hun was mutated in Turtles Forever and he wasn't loyal to Cyber Shredder.

Coola Yagami
12-13-2012, 02:31 PM
Nope. He's the new 'Bebop and/or Rocksteady'. It's just taking a few episodes for Xever to be able to get back on his side. Hun never had a sidekick/partner like Bebop and Rocksteady or Dogpound and Fishface.

Ninjawolf
12-13-2012, 03:59 PM
Nope. He's the new 'Bebop and/or Rocksteady'. It's just taking a few episodes for Xever to be able to get back on his side. Hun never had a sidekick/partner like Bebop and Rocksteady or Dogpound and Fishface.

Maybe he takes bits from both Hun and Rocksteady? he's the big enforcer and he's part of a duo (wonder how he and Karai get along? I'm really looking forward to the Karai episode I really want to see if she's indeed Miwa)

CyberCubed
12-13-2012, 04:06 PM
Karai probably isn't Miwa. Why would she change her name?

Ninjawolf
12-13-2012, 04:07 PM
Karai probably isn't Miwa. Why would she change her name?

Karai could be her Code-name? or Shredder named her Karai when he adopted her? Like Shredder's real name is Oroku Saki

ToTheNines
12-13-2012, 04:51 PM
Karai probably isn't Miwa. Why would she change her name?

Lmao... She was a baby dude.

Bossa Nova
12-13-2012, 05:08 PM
I sure hope so. With Dogpound around it would honestly feel a little redundant to bring Hun in, I don't really see him adding a whole lot that Dogpound isn't perfectly capable of encompassing himself. I don't see why Shredder would need two huge, hulking, stupidly loyal henchmen to play around with, especially since Dogpound's already ten times more badass and threatening than Hun ever was. I know I sound like I hated Hun, which I didn't, he was alright and all for what role he had to fulfill, but I can't see Dogpound being okay with rubbing elbows with someone new, he's already pissy enough with Xever as it is.

Coola Yagami
12-13-2012, 05:20 PM
Karai could be her Code-name? or Shredder named her Karai when he adopted her? Like Shredder's real name is Oroku Saki

Except Karai isn't a codename. That's like saying someone is using Tom or Mary as their codename.

So if Bradford is the new Hun... what does that make Xever? I say it's too soon to say anything until Xever rejoins his side once he gets the robot legs.

Jester
12-13-2012, 05:27 PM
So if Bradford is the new Hun... what does that make Xever?
He's the new Bebop. Lanky black street punk who mutates into an animal form with a purple Mohawk. :D

Ninjinister
12-13-2012, 05:55 PM
Lmao... She was a baby dude.

So she changed her gender as well?

Jester
12-13-2012, 05:59 PM
So she changed her gender as well?
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CyberCubed
12-13-2012, 07:30 PM
Chris Bradford in human form was definitely the new Hun who was the new Tatsu.

For some reason Shredder always needs some super loyal right-hand man in every incarnation. Until Karai shows up anyway.

Ninjawolf
12-13-2012, 07:32 PM
Except Karai isn't a codename. That's like saying someone is using Tom or Mary as their codename.

So if Bradford is the new Hun... what does that make Xever? I say it's too soon to say anything until Xever rejoins his side once he gets the robot legs.

For all we know Karai could be an alias for her if her name is indeed Miwa or Shredder renamed her... we won't know until they show her... but it would make a lot of sense if she was indeed Miwa... Karai has always struggled with loyalty in the 2K3 show... think how she'll be if She is Miwa Yoshi and Spinter is her dad... she was a baby when Shredder grabbed her... and it did say in one of his bio's he had an adopted daughter Miwa Saki who was the only thing he cared about...

Jester
12-13-2012, 07:36 PM
Hamato or Oroku Miwa. Sur (Family) Names come first in Japan.

Ninjawolf
12-13-2012, 07:42 PM
Hamato or Oroku Miwa. Sur (Family) Names come first in Japan.

Meh I messed up XD used the Western way... but yeah Shredder's bio did say his adopted daughter was named Miwa... considering Splinter did not say his daughter died (she was 'taken' from him and he said Tang Shen 'died') so it's very probable that Saki Miwa is Hamato Miwa... and Karai could be her alias when she's working for the foot... speaking of which how long after Tang Shen died did he buy the turtles? she could be about 16/17 depending on how long between the two events since she looked only about a few months old in the flashback

DonatelloNinja82
12-13-2012, 09:25 PM
Hun and Dogpound have similarities, yes.

AnarkyLantern
12-16-2012, 07:30 AM
Chris Bradford in human form was definitely the new Hun who was the new Tatsu.

For some reason Shredder always needs some super loyal right-hand man in every incarnation. Until Karai shows up anyway.

Meh I messed up XD used the Western way... but yeah Shredder's bio did say his adopted daughter was named Miwa... considering Splinter did not say his daughter died (she was 'taken' from him and he said Tang Shen 'died') so it's very probable that Saki Miwa is Hamato Miwa... and Karai could be her alias when she's working for the foot... speaking of which how long after Tang Shen died did he buy the turtles? she could be about 16/17 depending on how long between the two events since she looked only about a few months old in the flashback

Karai works as a code name: http://tmnt.wikia.com/wiki/Karai

miru
01-16-2013, 05:05 PM
No, he's more Rocksteady. Although the real Rocksteady could show up...

tmntpower1988
01-18-2013, 01:06 AM
Funny enough I was thinking that a couple of days ago about Dogpound being the new Hun. I see the similarities myself.