Should Irma actually show up?

[CyberCubed]

In one of the episodes there was a throw-away gag of Irma being on April's phone before it was destroyed. Now it was probably just an easter egg for older fans, but would you want her to actually show up?

Irma seems to be a classmate of April's in this show, and it would raise the female character count by 1.

Considering April has no on-screen friends in this show, it might not be a bad idea to introduce Irma to give her one other human friend to talk to.

[NinjaPug]

No, I don't watch TMNT to see April interact with her human friends.

[CyberCubed]

No, I don't watch TMNT to see April interact with her human friends.

As it is April seems to have no connection in the human world outside her father and her off-screen Aunt.

Almost feels like her world is boxed in by the Turtles.

[zkarlette]

I think it could be interesting if they do it right.

[Powder]

Sure. Just so long as she's not always there. A once in a while appearance would be awesome, though.

[MikeandRaph87]

I think it could be interesting if they do it right.

^This and if only done a few times so not to be overdone.

[Kevin G]

I would like to see Irma. She is one of my favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle characters. It would be cool to so how they would interpret her.

[Kevin G]

As it is April seems to have no connection in the human world outside her father and her off-screen Aunt.

Almost feels like her world is boxed in by the Turtles.

I'm not sure where I heard this, but didn't the creators say they were going to show her not fitting in her school ?

[Zulithe]

Irma? fine, i support anything as long as it is done right.

How about some female villains? Those are hard to come by.

[Drose18]

How about Irma mutating? :D:D:D

[Jephael]

I'd love to see Irma show up at some point.

[LH]

I think it would be cool to see her and April at school.

[Jester]

Why not, she's been referenced already.

[NinjaPug]

Hopefully the addition of Casey Jones in S2 will help with Aprils's human interaction. I personally never liked the Irma character and hope they don't add her.

[The Stryker]

Nope!

I watch the show for the Ninja Turtles. I don't really care about April and her friends. Isn't that what everyone was whining about when Viacom got the franchise? That they'd make it into a show about April in high school?

[Coola Yagami]

eh why not. at least for shot scenes. hell, the Gauntlet could have had a second of April waving goodbye to Irma before she turned around and was bothered by Pigeon Pete.

[CyberCubed]

I watch the show for the Ninja Turtles. I don't really care about April and her friends. Isn't that what everyone was whining about when Viacom got the franchise? That they'd make it into a show about April in high school?

Its called expanding the shows universe. We don't see April interact with ANYONE in the outside world. Even her Aunt that she's supposedly living with right now has never been shown.

Why the hell do you think we saw so much of the Channel 6 news crew in the old show? They didn't have to create Irma/Vernon in the first place...they were created to show who April was actually working with and what she was doing in her life outside the Turtles.

And of course I'm not suggesting Irma becoming a major character. Maybe just 2-3 appearances a season.

[Shark_Blade]

Maybe she'll look like the girl in Despicable Me.

http://i.imgur.com/4LBkF.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/f6N3Y.jpg

[zkarlette]

something like that would be a great fit.

[Jester]

Isn't there a picture of her floating around?

[ToTheNines]

Isn't there a picture of her floating around?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tAbyAQS3sOQ/UMQfMpiziUI/AAAAAAAAB10/K4RP3FfETTE/s1600/irma.PNG

[CyberCubed]

Someone had a better close-up. To be honest she almost looks like Velma from Scooby Doo from her face.

Of course we can't see all of her hair.

[Jester]

Looks more goth to me.

[CyberCubed]

Better pic:

http://jpegy.com/images/uploads/2012/12/Irma-makes-Easter-Egg-in-Nickelodeons-TMNT.jpg

[Jester]

Closer, yes. Better, no no no no.

[AnarkyLantern]

My screengrab staff was off that day :p

Seriously, though, I think it's possible Dogpound may have gotten a look at it.

[Powder]

What the hell? I never noticed until now that it says "Weirdo friend" underneath Irmas name... That's strange.

[Avatar Yuffie]

Oh, Irma should definitely show up.

The reason I don't really resent April's damsel in distress schtick in the OT is because of her workmates. April gets to complain about her boss, snark with Vernon, tries not to get peer pressured by Irma to get a boyfriend. That sort of thing.

It'll be good for April's character to know more about her. And that includes her non-mutant associates.

[Vivi]

If she were in the show it would instantly double the amount of females.

[cryan]

Judging by the picture on the phone,Looks like she might have long black hair with a bowl hairdo and have glasses

[ToTheNines]

What the hell? I never noticed until now that it says "Weirdo friend" underneath Irmas name... That's strange.

I'm not positive, but it looks like "weirdo mcgee" to my eyes.

[ZariusTwo]

No, I don't watch TMNT to see April interact with her human friends.

Good thing you don't speak for the rest of us ya noob.

[MST3KFan]

Why would people think it to be wrong?

I think it'd be funny if say, the turtles were curious about school, of which we assume April goes to, and gets her to let him come along or he sneaks in disguise.

Thus, we see April interacting with Irma and maybe new versions of Vernon and Bern while trying to keep the turtles from being discovered.

Maybe Bern is head of the school newspapaer and wants to expose mutants that have been popping up all over the city as threats, to which the turtles of course balk at in some regards while Vernon sucks up to the him as school photographer.

Heh... Maybe Irma would take a liking to one of the turtles in their disguise even.

[zodiac brave]

Why would people think it to be wrong?

I think it'd be funny if say, the turtles were curious about school, of which we assume April goes to, and gets her to let him come along or he sneaks in disguise.

Thus, we see April interacting with Irma and maybe new versions of Vernon and Bern while trying to keep the turtles from being discovered.

Maybe Bern is head of the school newspapaer and wants to expose mutants that have been popping up all over the city as threats, to which the turtles of course balk at in some regards while Vernon sucks up to the him as school photographer.

Heh... Maybe Irma would take a liking to one of the turtles in their disguise even.

i hope its NOTHING like that.

i agree with what most have said, a few appearances here and there. cameo-style.

and ABSOLUTELY NO vernon or bern.

[CyberCubed]

I doubt they'll use Vernon or Burn, they just can't fit in here.

Irma being April's classmate though makes a lot of sense. I always got the feeling in the OT that they knew each other for years instead of meeting at Channel 6 too.

[chrisdude]

I'm totally cool with Erma. I hope April does have friends and a life.

What I don't want is for her personal life to have it's own episodes. Ugh! I can see it now. April and Donnie at the Halloween dance. Erma doesn't have a date, so Mikey goes with her to make her feel better, but just ends up eating all the food. :dead:

[CyberCubed]

I'm totally cool with Erma. I hope April does have friends and a life.

Just curious, how do you spell Irma's name wrong when its right in the title of the thread?

[BAXTER STOCKMAN 19]

If she appears then i hope she joins the foot!I and my master Shredder are doing our best to bring even more members to the Foot! I dont want her to be friends with turtles

[chrisdude]

Just curious, how do you spell Irma's name wrong when its right in the title of the thread?That is a very good question, man, and I do not have an answer.

[zodiac brave]

If she appears then i hope she joins the foot!I and my master Shredder are doing our best to bring even more members to the Foot! I dont want her to be friends with turtles

again with this? keep it in the rp forum, bruh.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

No, I don't watch TMNT to see April interact with her human friends.

Of course, I want Irma. Here comes the great balance in. You have the turtles and Splinter at one point, their mutation is one of the science fiction plots.

Then you have April, the turtles best guide to the human world. Her friends serve as a great connection to the more realistic sides of the stories.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

again with this? keep it in the rp forum, bruh.

Oh, let the wee lad pretend.

[oldmanwinters]

What the hell? I never noticed until now that it says "Weirdo friend" underneath Irmas name... That's strange.

I never could make out those letters. You pretty confident that's what it says? That's hilarious if it does!

Irma? fine, i support anything as long as it is done right.

How about some female villains? Those are hard to come by.

How about Irma mutating? :D:D:D

Heh, I was just thinking how funny it might be if they mutated Irma and made her into a villain (maybe not truly evil, but mostly a sympathetic but annoying adversary to April and the Turtles). Eh, the possibilities...

[TurtleTitan97]

I wouldn't mind seeing her appear once in awhile on the show.

[Konchadunga]

Irma is a fairly one-note character in an organization that doesn't, and possibly can't, exist in the new continuity. Having her in as a Mythology Gag is cool, and I wouldn't object to her being in there on principle, but they'd probably have to reinvent her a lot or just not use her a lot. She can't really work at a news company with April when April isn't even out of school yet; nor does her buffoonery really fit in a show more based on action than humor.

Now don't get me wrong, there's a lot of jokes in this show, but they all relate to the Turtles and how they deal with the stress of being at war with two menacing factions. For that sort of humor, they already use Michelangelo as their comedic screw-up, but Mikey can still pull through when the cards are down; putting a character into the fray who is just a screw-up would just be annoying. Irma is a sitcom character from a show that, for all intents and purposes, was a sitcom for a lot of its run, and she works great there, but in an action show, she'd just end up being like Miko in Transformers Prime.

Also, though I like my shows to have a bit of depth, I also think this new show has a few too many plot strands for its own good at times. We've got two villain teams, and that's cool, but that means less time for bits of the universe that don't have more than a bit part in the conflict. I'd rather see more development for the two Big Bads than more lesser villains added, but alas, that's probably asking too much of a toyetic series.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

She can't really work at a news company with April when April isn't even out of school yet; nor does her buffoonery really fit in a show more based on action than humor.



In a TMNT universe where April is still at school, Irma's of course a classmate.

[CyberCubed]

Irma is a fairly one-note character in an organization that doesn't, and possibly can't, exist in the new continuity. Having her in as a Mythology Gag is cool, and I wouldn't object to her being in there on principle, but they'd probably have to reinvent her a lot or just not use her a lot. She can't really work at a news company with April when April isn't even out of school yet; nor does her buffoonery really fit in a show more based on action than humor.

What on earth are you talking about?

Its pretty obvious Irma is one of April's classmates. Why are you talking about her working at a news company?

Maybe April and Irma work for the schools newspaper or something.

[Icebot]

I think Irma should show up at least once in this show.

[Andrew NDB]

Watch April become a Turtle and Irma become that lizard girl from the Fred Wolf show.

[cryan]

Uhm, no. I want Irma and Mona Lisa to be separate characters. I know you were kidding but still.

[Andrew NDB]

Uhm, no. I want Irma and Mona Lisa to be separate characters. I know you were kidding but still.

Shouldn't really matter when 1) This is a new universe, and 2) It's for a new audience and brand new demographic.

Under the tone and type of the show I was actually hoping they might go the Jess Harley route for Leatherhead, but what they did was pretty cool just the same.

[oldmanwinters]

Watch April become a Turtle and Irma become that lizard girl from the Fred Wolf show.

I can't say that possibility hasn't crossed my mind once or twice.

And I'm still sticking to my April will be a Mutant Turtle in Season 2 prediction (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=920370&postcount=317).

[pannoni1]

The Channel 6 plots in the OT are in a way the Space Heroes of the Nick series in which a moral and/or problem of the episode is often brought up there. Channel 6 has appeared twice in this series on the TV. But given Irma was strictly used outside of Season 1 and most of 8-10, she worked best for a comedic series, and the Nick series is suitable for occasional appearances only.

If Irma does show up, I hope she's more than just the klutzy "I want a date" character, perhaps aiding April topside, and perhaps using Vernon as Irma's eventual LTR. Maybe have the number 6 on her shirt to show that she's on April's side.

[Pterobat]

Eh, sure, now that she's been "seen" in the show proper.

I'm trusting that a teenage Nicktoons Irma won't be a creepy Cathy-type like OT Irma....

That being said, she doesn't need to be mutated or do anything really outrageous to justify her inclusion--giving April a life outside the Turtles and her father would help to enrich the series. It doesn't mean everything else in the story will be put on hold to have her in it, or that we'll end up with a Channel 6 High School AU. :P

[CyberCubed]

I can't say that possibility hasn't crossed my mind once or twice.

And I'm still sticking to my April will be a Mutant Turtle in Season 2 prediction (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=920370&postcount=317).

I thought you guys were joking, but you guys are actually being serious?

There is no way Nick will seriously mutate April into this show and stay that way. I can see her having a temporary mutation like the OT did (she was a mutant cat, fish and wasp), but she got changed back in the same episode.

[BubblyShell22]

I'd like to see Irma in this show if they can fit her in and do it properly. But if not, the little cameo she had was pretty cool and a great nod to the FW series.

[miru]

I wouldn't mind seeing her for real, just long enough to get a toy made.


I thought you guys were joking, but you guys are actually being serious?

There is no way Nick will seriously mutate April into this show and stay that way. I can see her having a temporary mutation like the OT did (she was a mutant cat, fish and wasp), but she got changed back in the same episode.

In the 2k3 show, she became a demon.

[jestermon]

I call goth too she has betty bangs in that picture so she's either gothy/punky or works at a theme 50's diner.

This show is aimed at boys so I don't think more girls would be a bad thing for the older ones, but I predict she will have striped leggings and dress like the girl from Danny Phantom if she shows up.

What we don't need is an original style Irma or another person that just shows up like Zack in the original turtles show.

And just because she is their guide to the human world doesn't mean April has to have tons of friends or be very social herself, I mean a hobo off the street with no people skills could explain how the world worked to 4 turtle teenagers and he would be and expert compared to them.

Also, that is very anime like if she lives with her aunt but it never shows her in tons of those shows there parents are conveniently dead, on long vacations, or they are lock key kids and barely miss each other coming in and out if the house, so they have time to do the crazy stuff that goes on in those shows.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I call goth too she has betty bangs in that picture so she's either gothy/punky or works at a theme 50's diner.

This show is aimed at boys so I don't think more girls would be a bad thing for the older ones, but I predict she will have striped leggings and dress like the girl from Danny Phantom if she shows up.

What we don't need is an original style Irma or another person that just shows up like Zack in the original turtles show.

And just because she is their guide to the human world doesn't mean April has to have tons of friends or be very social herself, I mean a hobo off the street with no people skills could explain how the world worked to 4 turtle teenagers and he would be and expert compared to them.

Also, that is very anime like if she lives with her aunt but it never shows her in tons of those shows there parents are conveniently dead, on long vacations, or they are lock key kids and barely miss each other coming in and out if the house, so they have time to do the crazy stuff that goes on in those shows.

April should at leaste have one friend. Actually, I think Irma wasn't first intended to meet the Turtles (but it wouldn't work that so long). Watch "It Came from Beneath the Sewers"
*When April hangs with the turtles, it's really her life with the adventures they have
*When April and Irma drink coffee in that episode, it's simple just like any ordinary life.

[CyberCubed]

I get the feeling Irma will be introduced in Season 2.

Since we know Casey is coming that will likely push the teen crush aspect of April/Casey with Don getting jealous, and then you'll probably have Irma there as April's one female friend to relate to.

Season 2 is going to turn into a typicl Nick teen drama during the Casey/Don episodes.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Maybe, mainly cause a Teen Irma might be funny

[Donatello19]

@Jester
Yes, there was a picture of her on the caller ID.

I don't think she should show up, it was just a cameo.

[AnarkyLantern]

There's a chance Dogpound saw her, though.

[Kendamu]

I would eventually like to see her. Nick's done everything else really well so far. They could work her in well, too.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I get the feeling Irma will be introduced in Season 2.

Since we know Casey is coming that will likely push the teen crush aspect of April/Casey with Don getting jealous, and then you'll probably have Irma there as April's one female friend to relate to.

Season 2 is going to turn into a typicl Nick teen drama during the Casey/Don episodes.

I want Casey Jones erlier.

[Coola Yagami]

Kinda hoping they go the OT route and keep Casey as a cameo guest star appearing every now and then, and being too obsessed with fighting crime and busting heads to think about girls. Also kinda don't see April to be the type to just fall for the super-macho dumbass muscular type. But then again I'd rather avoid the whole teen drama thing in general. REALLY don't wanna see the 'April lets Don down gently because she really likes Casey and Don accepts he wants her to be happy and will be happier with a human' episode. Really... REALLY.... don't....

[Donatello19]

What the hell? I never noticed until now that it says "Weirdo friend" underneath Irmas name... That's strange.

It says "Weirdo Mcgee"

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Kinda hoping they go the OT route and keep Casey as a cameo guest star appearing every now and then, and being too obsessed with fighting crime and busting heads to think about girls. Also kinda don't see April to be the type to just fall for the super-macho dumbass muscular type. But then again I'd rather avoid the whole teen drama thing in general. REALLY don't wanna see the 'April lets Don down gently because she really likes Casey and Don accepts he wants her to be happy and will be happier with a human' episode. Really... REALLY.... don't....

Casey Jones doesn't need to be in every story (he works better with street criminals than aliens), but I would love to see the Turtle Farm in Northampton, Massachussetts.

[miru]

Casey Jones doesn't need to be in every story (he works better with street criminals than aliens), but I would love to see the Turtle Farm in Northampton, Massachussetts.

Maybe we could have a reference to the bizarre "Farmer Mike" toy, and maybe even a remake with modern toy technology!

http://http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa17/badger145/2012/tmnt-farmer-mike.jpg

Heck, lets even give the supporting cast varations like this? Who wouldn't want to see Hillbilly Chick Ninjara?

[Jester]

Me, me! I wouldn't.

[oldmanwinters]

I thought you guys were joking, but you guys are actually being serious?

There is no way Nick will seriously mutate April into this show and stay that way. I can see her having a temporary mutation like the OT did (she was a mutant cat, fish and wasp), but she got changed back in the same episode.

No, I don't think it will be permanent, but it might be an ongoing arc.

[Cure]

Heck, lets even give the supporting cast varations like this? Who wouldn't want to see Hillbilly Chick Ninjara?

Lots of people. Lots and lots of people, you freak.

[Jester]

It says "Weirdo Mcgee"

@Jester
Yes, there was a picture of her on the caller ID.

I don't think she should show up, it was just a cameo.
Dude, those were 2 pages and many responses ago...

[Pterobat]

Kinda hoping they go the OT route and keep Casey as a cameo guest star appearing every now and then, and being too obsessed with fighting crime and busting heads to think about girls. Also kinda don't see April to be the type to just fall for the super-macho dumbass muscular type. But then again I'd rather avoid the whole teen drama thing in general. REALLY don't wanna see the 'April lets Don down gently because she really likes Casey and Don accepts he wants her to be happy and will be happier with a human' episode. Really... REALLY.... don't....

It'd be a melodramatic storyline, true, but I'd like it ending that way. Somedays I think it's practically revolutionary to suggest a female human character doesn't have to love a male non-human when he loves her.

Besides, Donny's a creep. He doesn't "deserve" April unless he stops being one.

[Konchadunga]

It'd be a melodramatic storyline, true, but I'd like it ending that way. Somedays I think it's practically revolutionary to suggest a female human character doesn't have to love a male non-human when he loves her.

"Revolutionary" means apart from the norm, and as such it would be revolutionary of the series to suggest that an interspecies romance can be a thing in the case of two sentient beings. How is it revolutionary to subvert interspecies romance when interspecies romance has hardly ever been done in children's TV?

Besides, Donny's a creep. He doesn't "deserve" April unless he stops being one.

No; Donny is a teenager. Most teenagers go through the phase of being lovestruck, horny stalkers. I'm not saying that makes it right, and not saying I'm not thoroughly disgusted by the acceptance and even fandom Twilight and "Call me Maybe" have in our society, but it's how these things work, and if Donny was a "creep," he wouldn't be risking his life on the basis of his crush.

[Avatar Yuffie]

Kinda hoping they go the OT route and keep Casey as a cameo guest star appearing every now and then, and being too obsessed with fighting crime and busting heads to think about girls. Also kinda don't see April to be the type to just fall for the super-macho dumbass muscular type. But then again I'd rather avoid the whole teen drama thing in general. REALLY don't wanna see the 'April lets Don down gently because she really likes Casey and Don accepts he wants her to be happy and will be happier with a human' episode. Really... REALLY.... don't....

I can actually see that happening tbqh. But for me it's more on "Don realized he's a dead end for April and he'll limit her potential".

From what Falco hinted in Monkey Brains, I think Don already struggles with "do I even have a chance" thing.

[Konchadunga]

The thing is, though, that dead-end thing could just manifest in the form of nothing ever coming of this one-sided romance, rather than it having a sad ending. "If you love someone, set them free" might not inherently be a bad moral in itself, but in this case, it would come off as more of "ignore your heart and don't challenge the status quo" to many viewers. They're going to make a lot of people mad with this if they go the "lose April to Casey" route.

[Kidatheart]

I, personally, wouldn't mind Irma being introduce formally on the show considering she's been hinted at already. She doesn't have to be front and central, but it gives more story line to April, who seems to be a main character in all TV animated series. This also gives them an opportunity to make another toy later on when they start to run out of turtle variants to make.

I think that Don and April's relationship will just continue the way it has been. I not thinking they'll have them get any closer than they are now being human and mutant.
Casey will most likely be on the show quite frequently due to the rumours that Corey Feldman is supose to be voicing him.
With that being said, I believe if Casey is teenaged like April, Then they'll be at very least flirtatious with each other. This will lead to Don becoming jealous which seems to be in his character and could lead to some rash decisions that can add to story line, at very least add filler here and there.

[Coola Yagami]

Kinda hope they shock the hell out of everybody and just make April fall for a guy at her school or whatever. Must the only 2 human friends of the Turtles fall for each other? Have they no lives other than whatever adventure the Turtles throw them into? lol Hell, have Casey fall for Karai and do the whole 'good/bad' thing they did in the 2K3 but with Casey instead of Leo.

[Jephael]

Kinda hope they shock the hell out of everybody and just make April fall for a guy at her school or whatever. Must the only 2 human friends of the Turtles fall for each other? Have they no lives other than whatever adventure the Turtles throw them into? lol Hell, have Casey fall for Karai and do the whole 'good/bad' thing they did in the 2K3 but with Casey instead of Leo.

Now that's kind of a neat concept.

[ToTheNines]

Must the only 2 human friends of the Turtles fall for each other?

I'm not saying it isn't becoming played out, so you do have a point, but it's not like it doesn't make sense. They're both always portrayed as attractive young people around the same age, so of course they're going to give it a shot considering neither one of them can tell anyone else about their amazing friends and the adventures they get into together.

If this show goes on long enough though, it'll be interesting to see what happens when April goes off to college.

[Pterobat]

"Revolutionary" means apart from the norm, and as such it would be revolutionary of the series to suggest that an interspecies romance can be a thing in the case of two sentient beings. How is it revolutionary to subvert interspecies romance when interspecies romance has hardly ever been done in children's TV?

I was talking more about the whole of fantasy and science fiction, in which non-human male creatures being able to have successful romances with human female characters is very common.

So common, in fact, that I'd say such pairings are no longer a profound metaphor for accepting others despite their differences, but now are just another way to tell stories in which women have to accept men no matter what they look like. I can't think of any interspecies story where a woman has the possibility of a human love interest, and chooses him instead.

Not saying that good stories can't be done with the idea: I love the romance between Elisa and Goliath in Gargoyles. But it's got to bring something new to the table, otherwise it's just going through a cliche and a huge double standard.

No; Donny is a teenager. Most teenagers go through the phase of being lovestruck, horny stalkers. I'm not saying that makes it right, and not saying I'm not thoroughly disgusted by the acceptance and even fandom Twilight and "Call me Maybe" have in our society, but it's how these things work, and if Donny was a "creep," he wouldn't be risking his life on the basis of his crush.

Yeah, he's a teenager, but he's making elaborate plans about how to get in good with April instead of actually saying to her that he's interested. Maybe she would pick up on that on her own, but at best it makes him looks like a doofus, and it's certainly not a good argument for why he "should" get April if the writers decide to do a love triangle.

Which I hope they don't, because those usually suck, but April deciding to choose a human over Donnie wouldn't be a big deal.

[Konchadunga]

Kinda hope they shock the hell out of everybody and just make April fall for a guy at her school or whatever. Must the only 2 human friends of the Turtles fall for each other? Have they no lives other than whatever adventure the Turtles throw them into? lol Hell, have Casey fall for Karai and do the whole 'good/bad' thing they did in the 2K3 but with Casey instead of Leo.

That might be difficult, considering Casey is vastly different from Leo, and from the conventional idea of "good." I also hope the new Karai is more like her Mirage version; less pretense of honor and more vengeful badassery, and that wouldn't be too different from Casey. Shell; the two actually screwed in the Mirage universe.

This needs to get back on topic, so here's a thought: What if Irma falls for Donny while he lusts after April.

[The Big Bad]

Kinda hope they shock the hell out of everybody and just make April fall for a guy at her school or whatever. Must the only 2 human friends of the Turtles fall for each other? Have they no lives other than whatever adventure the Turtles throw them into?

Actually, that's *is* the impression I get from a lot of the incarnations, thanks to stuff like the Northampton exile. Having to keep the details of an entire year (or however long it lasts, depending on the incarnation) of ones' life secret is something that I imagine would be rather isolating. The only incarnations of April that I feel have really been able to escape that are the Fred Wolf and Archie incarnations.

As for this incarnation...by all rights, this version of April should have more of a life outside of the turtles than any other, by dint of being a teenager living with her guardians and presumably attending high school. However, she feels like one of the most isolated, since all we're ever shown is her interactions with the turtles. Part of it is, of course, that the creators don't have the resources to spend on assets that would be of limited use but still, it feels like she's been done a disservice. Introducing Irma would help alleviate that, but again, I feel like doing so would require more context than the animators can give her. And it's also why I don't see April and Casey falling for other people outside the established circles, as much as I'd like to see it.


I'm not saying it isn't becoming played out, so you do have a point, but it's not like it doesn't make sense. They're both always portrayed as attractive young people around the same age, so of course they're going to give it a shot considering neither one of them can tell anyone else about their amazing friends and the adventures they get into together.

I don't see what's inevitable about it. Regardless of what TV and film may claim, it is possible for two attractive people to be friends without ever thinking about having sex with each other. Heck, even if this incarnation of the characters do turn out to not have other human friends aside from each other, I feel it would be worth it not having them get together just to drive that point home.

[gobo]

She should be a mutant chipmunk. :shifty:

[Avatar Yuffie]

Kinda hope they shock the hell out of everybody and just make April fall for a guy at her school or whatever. Must the only 2 human friends of the Turtles fall for each other? Have they no lives other than whatever adventure the Turtles throw them into? lol Hell, have Casey fall for Karai and do the whole 'good/bad' thing they did in the 2K3 but with Casey instead of Leo.

Huh, that's actually a good idea.

*will search for Casey/Karai fics*

The thing is, though, that dead-end thing could just manifest in the form of nothing ever coming of this one-sided romance, rather than it having a sad ending. "If you love someone, set them free" might not inherently be a bad moral in itself, but in this case, it would come off as more of "ignore your heart and don't challenge the status quo" to many viewers. They're going to make a lot of people mad with this if they go the "lose April to Casey" route.

Assuming they'd even be love interests. It's up in the air.

[oldmanwinters]

She should be a mutant chipmunk. :shifty:

Haha, print it!

[hadoolket]

But then again I'd rather avoid the whole teen drama thing in general. REALLY don't wanna see the 'April lets Don down gently because she really likes Casey and Don accepts he wants her to be happy and will be happier with a human' episode. Really... REALLY.... don't....yah rly

this petulent highschool teen drama seems to pervade everything these days, that i feel it's cultivating a sissy culture (while reality tv on the other hand encourages people to sit on their asses and become fat)

it's a kid's show first and foremost, kids don't care that some teenager loser is in love with suzie but she don't love him back and that he wants his teenager dilemma represented on the show so kids feel his lonely pain, they want to see some ninja turtles kicking some bad guy butt unlike in real life where you get arrested for taking the law into your own hands

irma? i notoriously really like the character, so i can't say no to that, that's all i'm gonna say about it

[zodiac brave]

As for this incarnation...by all rights, this version of April should have more of a life outside of the turtles than any other, by dint of being a teenager living with her guardians and presumably attending high school. However, she feels like one of the most isolated, since all we're ever shown is her interactions with the turtles. Part of it is, of course, that the creators don't have the resources to spend on assets that would be of limited use but still, it feels like she's been done a disservice. Introducing Irma would help alleviate that, but again, I feel like doing so would require more context than the animators can give her. And it's also why I don't see April and Casey falling for other people outside the established circles, as much as I'd like to see it.

i think the fact that she's isolated comes from the crazy circumstances that have led her to befriend the turtles. her isolation, i feel, is an essential part of her character and feels like it might be done consciously by the writers. her dad is kidnapped by aliens and she's thrust into this world of mutant creatures, physical danger and crazy adventures. her dad being taken by her alone is enough to cause her to introvert from the normal gamut of teen high school life let alone all the other craziness. i feel one of the many saving graces is splinter taking her under his wing (tail?) and training her as a kunoichi. it, along with the friendship with the turtles, might be whats keeping her from breaking down. who else can relate to all this stuff, if not those that are right in the thick of it with her.

bringing in friends and showing her daily high school life would disservice that aspect of what the producers have put forth as her character so far.

that said, however, i can totally see how bringing in casey would work, if he is indeed portrayed as a vigilante-esque fighter who also encounters this craziness in some respect. as for the romantic aspect of the relationship, well that'll unfold however it unfolds.

irma coming in would have to be the same thing, if they were going for dramatic consistency. but...it is a kid's show, after all, and they might not be thinking that deeply.

kinda reminds me of the interplay between the scooby gang in buffy the vampire slayer. you stick together because you all have to deal with the same type of stuff and its difficult to relate to anyone that hasn't been through the same.

[TurtleMaster4]

yes. But maybe only for an episode or two.

[meta ray mek]

Eh, I wouldn't be opposed to it. April needs more friends besides the Turtles (and Casey, whenever he shows up), plus the show could always use more female characters.

Just don't make her a one-note, guy-obsessed character and we'll be good as gold, imho.

[miru]

After seeing Karai the Elf..


I wonder how this show will change her?

[kzekedaurus]

I... what?

Anyway, I'm wondering if April really has human friends in this incarnation. Irma has her number, and she has connections/informants, but it's still very vague. I think it would be interesting if she was actually an introvert or a loner. Her lack of social life among other people would provide an interesting contrast to her more confident and relaxed attitude among the turtles. Of course, I don't see this actually being the case.

With the OT, I always got the feeling that April thought that it was a drag being around Irma most of the time, considering she would much rather put herself in danger while chasing after a story.

[CyberCubed]

April and Irma were very good friends in the OT. They would often have dinner together or go on vacations together. I'm not sure why you would think April didn't like her.

[NinjaMan]

Eh, I wouldn't be opposed to it. April needs more friends besides the Turtles (and Casey, whenever he shows up), plus the show could always use more female characters.

Just don't make her a one-note, guy-obsessed character and we'll be good as gold, imho.

Her being guy-obsessed was a huge part of her character. Like how Donnie being super smart is a part of his.

[ZariusTwo]

Irma wasnt always a one-dimensional male-obsessed bit of skirt, she could also be resourceful and even intimidating, rising to the occasion to take on, and take out, the Turtles enemies ("Super Irma" and "Shredder Triumphant" are choice examples of her occasional courage)

[chrisdude]

Irma enters as April's love interest.

Casey and Raph go bust heads.

Problems solved.

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[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Irma wasnt always a one-dimensional male-obsessed bit of skirt, she could also be resourceful and even intimidating, rising to the occasion to take on, and take out, the Turtles enemies ("Super Irma" and "Shredder Triumphant" are choice examples of her occasional courage)

Combat Land is another strong Irma episode.

[jestermon]

Maybe Irma will be the one that get's with Casey and April won't even like him at all.

Hopefully, he is not a grown man, and since when did cross species love matter, there have been tons of animal characters in tons of cartoons that have been with other species.

[cryan]

Irma enters as April's love interest.

Casey and Raph go bust heads.

Problems solved.

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You have just placed a disturbing image in my head that I can't get out.:D:teek:

[chrisdude]

You have just placed a disturbing image in my head that I can't get out.:D:teek:I just don't want an April/Casey thing getting in the way of Raph and Casey bro'ing out and beating thugs together. That's something I really want to see happen.

[Coola Yagami]

I just don't want an April/Casey thing getting in the way of Raph and Casey bro'ing out and beating thugs together. That's something I really want to see happen.

Who says they will? So far Raph doesn't seem to be the loner type. He seems to be the 'chill at home reading his magazine while dissin his bros' type. Unless Raph starts acting up and arguing a lot with Leo in later episodes, I kinda don't see him running around with Casey in solo adventures. Casey might just a cameo character and not a main character like he was in the OT.

[BabyTurtles]

Who says they will? So far Raph doesn't seem to be the loner type. He seems to be the 'chill at home reading his magazine while dissin his bros' type. Unless Raph starts acting up and arguing a lot with Leo in later episodes, I kinda don't see him running around with Casey in solo adventures. Casey might just a cameo character and not a main character like he was in the OT.

I agree

I like Casey(alot) but Raph seems to be on good terms with his brothers in this version and I kinda don't want Casey to take him away from them. I don't want Raph to go all loner on his bros or something (but he might later)

that being said XD I still want Casey and Raph to be friends of course!

[chrisdude]

Raph does get along well with his brothers, but it's not like that couldn't change in one episode, coinciding with the appearance of Casey Jones.
But I understand if y'all wouldn't want that. :ohwell:

[MaximeLoonatic]

Combat Land is another strong Irma episode.
And In the Rat king episodes, and in Donatello's degree, and in the Turtlenaitor...

She can be usefull in the team; I can image her being another outside contact, another friend

[Avatar Yuffie]

Or you know she's the friend who has to covers up for April with their teachers when she's off saving the day.

[Zany Orange Dude]

I think if she showed up evy now and then that would be cool.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Or you know she's the friend who has to covers up for April with their teachers when she's off saving the day.

Irma should be April's classmate. Vernon Fenwick could be their teacher, and Burne Thompson the headmaster.

[MaximeLoonatic]

Or you know she's the friend who has to covers up for April with their teachers when she's off saving the day.

Good point!! After all, she's a teenager now; she need support to hide her secret missions from the other. Irma would be a good back up to made up that April it's in some other place, that she was with her when ''something'' happened, and aslo a good class mate helping her with her homeworks.



Irma should be April's classmate. Vernon Fenwick could be their teacher, and Burne Thompson the headmaster.

lol
That would be better than my idea that Vernom would be an annoying classmate

[Zany Orange Dude]

Irma should be April's classmate. Vernon Fenwick could be their teacher, and Burne Thompson the headmaster.

That would be funny!:tlol: