Older characters from TMNT lore that you think will fade away into obscurity?

[CyberCubed]

There are a lot of TMNT characters that show up in every incarnation just about, (like Baxter/Rat King/Leatherhead), while others only had a hiatus due to PL not allowing those characters in the 4kids series.

However now that Nick and IDW are free to bring back whoever they want, which characters do you think WON'T be revived in either series? I can think of a few:

1) Pimiko. She only ever appeared in the Image comics and was Shredder's biological daughter. However, since both Nick and IDW have followed the 4kids route of making Karai into Shredder's daughter, it makes it seem like the character of Pimiko will be forgotten about and never revived.

2) Complete Carnage and Radical. Peter confirmed they didn't appear in the 4kids series simply because he never liked them much. If even PL didn't want to use them, I cannot see such obscure characters returning in either IDW or Nick.

3) Many OT characters created in the later seasons, such as Lord Dregg, Beserko, Titanus, Shreeka, Carter, etc. Some of these were good characters, but they came so late into the OT's run that most casual fans never knew them. The lack of toys certainly didn't help.

4) Lotus Blossom. Similar to Pimiko, her character is really redundant with Karai around. If anything she basically was the OT version of her before Karai even existed.

5) Many Playmates mutant characters that never appeared in the OT. I doubt we'll ever see the debut of such characters like Monty Moose or King Lionheart, and we're better off without them.

6) Archie oriented characters that were not major villains or Playmates characters. Examples would probably be Chein Khan (another dog mutant), or Toxeem or possibly even Null.


And this of course goes for all the minor characters in the OT and 4kids series, like the mad scientists, the one-shot aliens, characters like Touch and Go or the Ultimate Ninja...possibly even all the Fast Forward characters.


Can you think of any others that you don't think Nick or IDW will revive?

[pannoni1]

Venus. Peter Laird even admitted to the mistake of creating a female turtle, and remains the reason why the Next Mutation isn't well liked. However, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a gag about how uncool Venus would be whether in Nick and/or IDW.

The Ninja Tribunal's Acolytes. They were created specifically for the 4kids series and aired at a time when executive meddling was causing problems, along with the dearth of toys created. The Ancient One and Ninjitsu masters could still show up later in Nick/IDW since there's a lot going for them.

Most of the Fast Forward characters, such as Cody Jones, Viral, and Darius Dun. Like the characters introduced for Red Sky, they came at a waning phase of a series, and even I don't know all the names of them off the top of my head (Torbin Zixx, Aramzedo anyone?) The Dark Turtles are a possible exception.

[snake]

2k3 fillers
Half-court
Carter
Most stuff you mentioned,
And one more, bloodsucker
There's lots of charecters that will fade :tcry:

[Irishmile]

I never liked Carnage and Radical either... They always seemed so out of place to me... That said Renet didn't ever seem to belong either.. but I always liked it when she showed up.

[Jephael]

Definitly Carter and Dregg. I am curious if we'll ever get to see Keno again.

[snake]

Does anyone even remember bloodsucker?

[shuriken]

^^ Bloodsucker was awesome. A giant mutant hideous looking leech is pretty damn scary.
The Muto Heads have faded.
The Crooked ninja Turtle gang
Tempestra and Antrax
Garbage man will not be returning I'm sure

[Irishmile]

Does anyone even remember bloodsucker?

Yup... I think the River was one of the best mirage stories..

[snake]

^^ Bloodsucker was awesome. A giant mutant hideous looking leech is pretty damn scary.
The Muto Heads have faded.
The Crooked ninja Turtle gang
Tempestra and Antrax
Garbage man will not be returning I'm sure

GARBAGEMAN???? I forgot about him. Burger eatin' biggie

[snake]

Yup... I think the River was one of the best mirage stories..

Never said I didn't like him, I love him, but he is hard to remember

[Garfield]

When you think about it.

Most TMNT characters wont be used again.

For every Leatherhead, Baxter and Karai you get a bunch more Kenos, Lord Dreggs, Bonesteels, Garbage men, Mary Bones and Kermas.

[Jephael]

When you think about it.

Most TMNT characters wont be used again.

For every Leatherhead, Baxter and Karai you get a bunch more Kenos, Lord Dreggs, Bonesteels, Garbage men, Mary Bones and Kermas.

You know the more I think about it, I kinda prefer it that way. Why does every character in the history of the franchise have to be brought back? If anything, limiting most of them to one or two iterations makes them all the more unique and special. Look at how many different versions of April, Splinter and each Turtle we've had over the past two and a half decades. A couple more generations and people won't be able to keep track anymore.

[snake]

You know the more I think about it, I kinda prefer it that way. Why does every character in the history of the franchise have to be brought back? If anything, limiting most of them to one or two iterations makes them all the more unique and special. Look at how many different versions of April, Splinter and each Turtle we've had over the past two and a half decades. A couple more generations and people won't be able to keep track.

Agree, do we really need the mutamals to appear in this series? Or any other obscure charecter
Personally I just like it when nick creates original charecters

EDIT FROM 2014- Holy crap! What was I thinking when I made this post?

[CyberCubed]

For every Leatherhead, Baxter and Karai you get a bunch more Kenos, Lord Dreggs, Bonesteels, Garbage men, Mary Bones and Kermas.

Well we had Angel, a rather obscure character from the 4kids series brought back in IDW, so I don't know.

Classic OT characters like General Traag and Metalhead have been revived as well, so I can see more showing up.

[snake]

Well we had Angel, a rather obscure character from the 4kids series brought back in IDW, so I don't know.

Classic OT characters like General Traag and Metalhead have been revived as well, so I can see more showing up.

Except general tragg looks nothing like he did in the OT :tsad:

[CyberCubed]

Except general tragg looks nothing like he did in the OT :tsad:

So, Karai and Rat King looked nothing like they did in past incarnations either. They're still more or less the same characters though.

[snake]

So, Karai and Rat King looked nothing like they did in past incarnations either. They're still more or less the same characters though.
Yeah but I at least liked those charecters, tragg is going to take more time to get used to.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

*Barney Stockman (1987)
*Bellybomb (Archie)
*Captain Mossman (Archie)
*Cherubae (Archie)
*Kazou Saki (1987)
*Razhar & Tokka (Movie 2)
*Wyrm & Scumbug (Archie)

*A lot of single episode-appearing characters in the 1987 show and Archie.

[CyberCubed]

*Barney Stockman (1987)
*Bellybomb (Archie)
*Captain Mossman (Archie)
*Cherubae (Archie)
*Kazou Saki (1987)
*Razhar & Tokka (Movie 2)
*Wyrm & Scumbug (Archie)

I think Rahzar and Tokka have a good chance to appear again. They did get cameos in the Turtles Forever movie.

I agree with the others though.

[snake]

I think Rahzar and Tokka have a good chance to appear again. They did get cameos in the Turtles Forever movie.

I agree with the others though.

I agree with you, tokka and rahzar have a strong following and I remember them very well.

[miru]

Most of the Next Mutation characters (execpting maybe Venus): these include Bonesteel, Vam Mi, etc.



Many, MANY Mirage characters, especially later on.

[DonatelloNinja82]

I never did like Carter much, so I dont mind not seeing him again :P

[Refractive Reflections]

You know the more I think about it, I kinda prefer it that way. Why does every character in the history of the franchise have to be brought back? If anything, limiting most of them to one or two iterations makes them all the more unique and special. Look at how many different versions of April, Splinter and each Turtle we've had over the past two and a half decades. A couple more generations and people won't be able to keep track anymore.

I have to follow Jephael here because if every iteration had the same exact characters (especially the minor ones), every iteration would come across as too similar and it would lose the anticipation of expecting something new in a new iteration.

[CyberCubed]

I wonder if we'll ever see Renet again to be honest. IDW might use her but Nick probably won't.

[Coola Yagami]

There are a lot of TMNT characters that show up in every incarnation just about, (like Baxter/Rat King/Leatherhead), while others only had a hiatus due to PL not allowing those characters in the 4kids series.

However now that Nick and IDW are free to bring back whoever they want, which characters do you think WON'T be revived in either series? I can think of a few:

1) Pimiko. She only ever appeared in the Image comics and was Shredder's biological daughter. However, since both Nick and IDW have followed the 4kids route of making Karai into Shredder's daughter, it makes it seem like the character of Pimiko will be forgotten about and never revived.

2) Complete Carnage and Radical. Peter confirmed they didn't appear in the 4kids series simply because he never liked them much. If even PL didn't want to use them, I cannot see such obscure characters returning in either IDW or Nick.

3) Many OT characters created in the later seasons, such as Lord Dregg, Beserko, Titanus, Shreeka, Carter, etc. Some of these were good characters, but they came so late into the OT's run that most casual fans never knew them. The lack of toys certainly didn't help.

4) Lotus Blossom. Similar to Pimiko, her character is really redundant with Karai around. If anything she basically was the OT version of her before Karai even existed.

5) Many Playmates mutant characters that never appeared in the OT. I doubt we'll ever see the debut of such characters like Monty Moose or King Lionheart, and we're better off without them.

6) Archie oriented characters that were not major villains or Playmates characters. Examples would probably be Chein Khan (another dog mutant), or Toxeem or possibly even Null.


And this of course goes for all the minor characters in the OT and 4kids series, like the mad scientists, the one-shot aliens, characters like Touch and Go or the Ultimate Ninja...possibly even all the Fast Forward characters.


Can you think of any others that you don't think Nick or IDW will revive?

I agree with your list actually. Especially anyone that either never got an action figure, was never in the 80's show or both. Noone exclusive from Image and Archie comics.

I do wonder about Renet, but I kinda doubt that with the exception of Karai there probably won't be any original Mirage characters that haven't already appeared in the 80's cartoon and other media. I count Leatherhead, Rat King, Baxter, the Purple Dragons and Casey Jones into that list since they have already appeared several times before. By original Mirage characters I meant Renet, Nobody, Savanti and so forth, and like I said, Karai was the first Mirage character to break it into this new series.

And while we're at it, with all the OT cameos and references, the only character I seen from the OT here is Metalhead. They could have easily have gone with an all-new Turtle robot or used the Turtlebot but they went with the classic Metalhead design instead. I know we've seen callbacks and such, but unless we actually see Irma herself in April's school or see Mondo Gecko skateboarding alongside Mikey, I still say Metalhead is the only OT character so far.

[ToTheNines]

1) Pimiko. She only ever appeared in the Image comics and was Shredder's biological daughter. However, since both Nick and IDW have followed the 4kids route of making Karai into Shredder's daughter, it makes it seem like the character of Pimiko will be forgotten about and never revived.

This one drives me totally nuts. I don't know if anyone cares, but there's actually a severe shortage of female TMNT characters, so I can't stand when they take an awesome stand-alone character like Karai and force her into the role of Shredder's daughter when he already has a badass kunoichi daughter.

[CyberCubed]

This one drives me totally nuts. I don't know if anyone cares, but there's actually a severe shortage of female TMNT characters, so I can't stand when they take an awesome stand-alone character like Karai and force her into the role of Shredder's daughter when he already has a badass kunoichi daughter.

Makes me wish Pimiko existed in the Mirage books before Image, her character would have been a bit more well known and 4kids might had used her.

That being said all the Image created characters will likely be forgotten, like King Komodo, Deathwatch, etc. Good thing the rest of the series was about the Foot and Triceratons.

Bugman, Silver Sentry, Nobody, Stainless Steel Steve and the other superheroes probably won't return either.

[Irishmile]

As we get further and further from the source material I think that Oroku Nagi will eventually be forgotten... I think even many legit TMNT fans who didn't read the comics may not even know who he is NOW.. in the future most fans probably will not..

[snake]

Hopefully bloodsucker won't be forgotten and adapted into the nick show

[CyberCubed]

Hopefully bloodsucker won't be forgotten and adapted into the nick show

We're more likely to see Wyrm than Bloodsucker.

[miru]

Aska, Musha Beetle, Tora, and Shogun Warrior.

[snake]

We're more likely to see Wyrm than Bloodsucker.

Wrym would be cool toO

[Irishmile]

Bloodsucker is cool... its no secret why he was so much like Swampthing.

[miru]

Any characters from Japanese and European turtles media.

[snake]

Bloodsucker is cool... its no secret why he was so much like Swampthing.

Bloodsucker action figure, that's why we need the river adapted into nick.

[Coola Yagami]

This one drives me totally nuts. I don't know if anyone cares, but there's actually a severe shortage of female TMNT characters, so I can't stand when they take an awesome stand-alone character like Karai and force her into the role of Shredder's daughter when he already has a badass kunoichi daughter.

I however can see many fans say 'wtf??? Pimiko isn't his daughter??? Karai is!!! Why the hell do they keep changing things!!!!'

[ToTheNines]

I however can see many fans say 'wtf??? Pimiko isn't his daughter??? Karai is!!! Why the hell do they keep changing things!!!!'

Well people are going to be saying WTF anyways when it turns out her name is really Miwa in the Nicktoon.

[CyberCubed]

And Spike will become Slash, I assure you all.

[Coola Yagami]

And Spike will become Slash, I assure you all.

Probably the reason Raph called him Spike. If he called him Slash from the get-go it would have been way too obvious. And isn't Spike kinda like a snapping turtle?

It's still confusing and I don't see why Spike/Slash would be evil though, nor why he would turn on Raph. If they choose to go that route, I'd rather see him as a misunderstood hero or something, but not an outright villain.

The main reason I kinda don't want Spike to become Slash is because I see no reason for him to become evil, or to not suddenly become the official 5th Turtle in the team. I know they'd never mess with status quo like that...

[CyberCubed]

Probably the reason Raph called him Spike. If he called him Slash from the get-go it would have been way too obvious. And isn't Spike kinda like a snapping turtle?

It's still confusing and I don't see why Spike/Slash would be evil though, nor why he would turn on Raph. If they choose to go that route, I'd rather see him as a misunderstood hero or something, but not an outright villain.

The main reason I kinda don't want Spike to become Slash is because I see no reason for him to become evil, or to not suddenly become the official 5th Turtle in the team. I know they'd never mess with status quo like that...

He could easily be brainwashed by Baxter or the Foot.

They set him up as a parallel to Raph. Him being evil but Raph caring for him would be similar to if Karai is really Miwa.

[The Big Bad]

This one drives me totally nuts. I don't know if anyone cares, but there's actually a severe shortage of female TMNT characters, so I can't stand when they take an awesome stand-alone character like Karai and force her into the role of Shredder's daughter when he already has a badass kunoichi daughter.

I'm of two minds about this. I think it was perfectly legitimate for the 4Kids cartoon to make Karai the Shredder's daughter instead of using Pimiko. Not only is 4Kids Karai far more similar to the former than the latter, she actually debuts in the adaptation of Karai's original appearance. Yes, there was already existing daughter of the Shredder, but there was also an already existing character who brought the warring Foot back under her control.

Now, with any of the other incarnations? I would have to agree. The film incarnation I don't actually consider Shredder's daughter, since it's a detail that isn't actually on the film, so that doesn't bug me much. The newest version, however... like turning Falco into the Rat King, it feels like taking two good things--the new character and Karai as a concept--and making them weaker by joining them together.

[ToTheNines]

Good point Bad. 4kids did at least wait till Shredder "died" and kept her as head of the Japanese Foot. The Nick toon basically created a new character. So she's really only Karai in name only, both as a character and in-universe.

[Icebot]

I think Rahzar and Tokka have a good chance to appear again. They did get cameos in the Turtles Forever movie.

I agree with the others though.

Not to mention Tokka and Rahzar were in a 1987 cartoon episode.

The characters I believe will never come back I would say Kluh from the Battle Nexus, Drako.

I think they'll stop having more than one Shredder like Tengu, Utrom and Cyber Shredder, they'll probably just have one Shredder per show from now on.

Also Don Turtelli, Pinky McFingers, Big Louie, Mad Dog McMutt.

What about Irma, Burne and Vernon? Not sure about them.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

He could easily be brainwashed by Baxter or the Foot.



If so, he will become some kind of 5th turtle the day the brainwashing is over, and becomes a good guy again (unless he's originally a bad guy, but still not work with Shredder or Baxter Stockman, of course).

[Coola Yagami]

If so, he will become some kind of 5th turtle the day the brainwashing is over, and becomes a good guy again (unless he's originally a bad guy, but still not work with Shredder or Baxter Stockman, of course).


I know.. it's kinda like a big can of worms that I don't really want opened. But I'm sure the Nick writers have something up their sleeves the moment they decided to add more mutants AND give Raph a pet turtle. Similar to how they planned to make Falco into Rat King all along. We'll have to wait and see how it plays out when we get that far.

[CyberCubed]

Falco became Rat King, and Miwa is probably Karai. Having Spike become Slash is the same exact foreshadowing they did with the previous two characters, complete with name changes no less.

[Vivi]

Probably most of them - which is a shame since there are many many decent characters that I would hate to never see again. Just about any character could be picked up at a writer's whimsy and made interesting. It would be good to draw on the vast catalogue of characters not purely for nostalgias sake, but because they genuinely fit well into the tmnt world and make for interesting storylines.

[snake]

Probably most of them - which is a shame since there are many many decent characters that I would hate to never see again. Just about any character could be picked up at a writer's whimsy and made interesting. It would be good to draw on the vast catalogue of characters not purely for nostalgias sake, but because they genuinely fit well into the tmnt world and make for interesting storylines.

Like armaggon.

[CyberCubed]

Probably most of them - which is a shame since there are many many decent characters that I would hate to never see again. Just about any character could be picked up at a writer's whimsy and made interesting. It would be good to draw on the vast catalogue of characters not purely for nostalgias sake, but because they genuinely fit well into the tmnt world and make for interesting storylines.

To be fair many of them were obscure to begin with. Many Mirage-centric characters never would have seen the light of day in the 4kids series if it weren't for Peter Laird wanting to see them animated.

Many characters from the OT were designed to be one-shot characters to begin with, or are too silly to work in any other incarnation. Most of those Playmates mutant characters were basically just there to sell toys rather than be actual characters.

Many of the 4kids created characters, excluding Ch'rell, Hun and Bishop...were largely throwaway or not popular enough to get revived, like Touch and Go, the Battle Nexus characters, Quarry and the underground mutants, Garbageman, some of the FF characters, Khan, etc.



We're seeing the Neutrinos and General Traag/Rock Soldiers revived likely only because they were in the initial first season mini-series of the original toon, and thus everyone is familiar with them. Others like Metalhead, Slash, and possibly Rahzar/Tokka are just obvious fan-favorites. I expect Bebop/Rocksteady to debut in the Nick series in either Season 2 or 3 but again they're incredibly popular. The more obscure characters will probably never be brought back.

[miru]

Who knows, maybe Spike becomes Venus instead, and Slash is an alien.


EDIT: Turns out Spike is Slash.

[Cipher]

This one drives me totally nuts. I don't know if anyone cares, but there's actually a severe shortage of female TMNT characters, so I can't stand when they take an awesome stand-alone character like Karai and force her into the role of Shredder's daughter when he already has a badass kunoichi daughter.
Totally this.

I never cared for Pimiko much (mostly because of her costume, and the fact that she had very little personality beyond that costume), but the fact remains -- they keep shoehorning Karai into the role of Shredder's daughter when there's already a character in the lore to fill that role.

Karai seems to be one of the few characters not to have been heavily promoted during the '90s fad to make the jump into a recurring staple of the series, and that's great, but I'm not crazy about how she's done it. She was the Shredder's daughter in the 4Kids series and it worked to an extent, since it helped streamline that story and she still kept a lot of elements from her Mirage incarnation. What little we saw of her in the 2007 film actually seemed fine. But with Nick and IDW that now seems to be the default, and she hardly bears similarity to the original character. The only remaining elements are ... what? She's a female Foot ninja? The Mirage Karai wasn't interesting because of any loyalty or family issues, or the novelty of being a woman fighting character. She was interesting because she was a competent, pragmatic, amoral hard-ass.

As for the rest of this thread, I'd say most people are dead-on with the characters least likely to be resurrected in the near future, but never say never. The world of comic-book franchises has shown us time and time again that there's no untouchable elements of the franchise. All we'd need is a writer with enough interest in a character, or who thinks they would add enough to the story, to bring them back. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see another Null or Complete Carnage down the line. Or hell, even a Silver, the gangster ape. Anything's game.

[CyberCubed]

As for the rest of this thread, I'd say most people are dead-on with the characters least likely to be resurrected in the near future, but never say never. The world of comic-book franchises has shown us time and time again that there's no untouchable elements of the franchise. All we'd need is a writer with enough interest in a character, or who thinks they would add enough to the story, to bring them back. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see another Null or Complete Carnage down the line. Or hell, even a Silver, the gangster ape. Anything's game.

It really depends if the writers have fond memories of certain characters. I'm willing to bet someone at Nick had the Metalhead toy as a kid and wanted to bring the character back due to childhood nostalgia.

But the chances of Tempestra, Titanus, Shreeka, Beserko, etc? Probably very little. Same goes for all the obscure Mirage and 4kids characters.

[Cipher]

But the chances of Tempestra, Titanus, Shreeka, Beserko, etc? Probably very little. Same goes for all the obscure Mirage and 4kids characters.
Those are certianly among the least likely, but if the franchise is long-lasting and prolific enough?

I can't think of too many Batman characters that have gone untouched after one version, no matter how obscure. Some have even gone on to become major staples.

And even the Turtles characters you listed up there have unique designs and powers that might prompt their return if a writer needs something similar in the future. Really, I'd say the least likely are some of the one-off human villains. Anything else is very possible.

#DragonLord2015

[Candy Kappa]

Spike kinda like a snapping turtle?


Spike or Slash?

Spike seems to be a Tortoise then a Turtle all together.

[OrokuYoshiFilms]

Wish Tatsu would make a comeback but he's probably gone....

[CyberCubed]

It really depends as I said. I never thought we'd see Angel from the 4kids series again, but Tom Waltz said he liked her so she's in the IDW comics. It depends on if the writers like certain characters even if they're not well known.

[Shredded]

And Spike will become Slash, I assure you all.

What if Spike is actually a girl and becomes Venus for one episode only to also give Raph a love interest, now we are going nuts with all the shipping any-ways.



It's silly I know, but the image of Raph just going. "Spike is a girl!?!?" is amusing to me.


And well, these two probably wont be forgotten at all, but guys.. so sorry to say it.
Bebop and Rocksteady wont ever come bacn in any incarnation, the turtle shows has now made it official tradition that each Shredder will get new unique hench-men.
The only two thus far being actually rea-curring is now Stockman and Karai, the rest, it's now officially tradition that they are new ones each time. Which is quite honestly a good thing.

Bebop and Rocksteady just wouldn't have fit into this show and how it's written, where we go deep into characters and character development, also among the villains, I can't wait for the show to go far enough for the villains to do more stuff on their own and do things against or with each other, Stockman for one, can't wait to see where he is going to go, two things seems to be consistent with his incarnations.
A; he is only a unwilling participant, thus easily turns on the Shredder, and do so.
B; He never catches a break and just falls further and further into shame :ohwell:

So well, Rocksteady and bebop wont be forgotten as long as there are people whom grew up with the eighties show, how-ever.. will the new young genneration, the teens and children whom watches the show now, have any idea whom they are?... probably not.

[CyberCubed]

Bebop and Rocksteady wont ever come bacn in any incarnation, the turtle shows has now made it official tradition that each Shredder will get new unique hench-men

They already returned in the IDW comics. The chances of Nick never using them in the show is slim, they bought the TMNT IP with the intent of re-capturing the popularity of the OT. They know good and well the villains at the time were the reason the show was also the success it was as much as the Turtles.

Bebop/Rocksteady don't even have to work directly for Shredder, they can be in charge of the Purple Dragons, who have been less important ever since Xever got mutated.

Bebop and Rocksteady just wouldn't have fit into this show and how it's written, where we go deep into characters and character development, also among the villains, I can't wait for the show to go far enough for the villains to do more stuff on their own and do things against or with each other

Bebop and Rocksteady are comedic villains in a show that's practically a comedy. I think those two would be absolutely hilarious with the talented writing of the Nick writers.

In fact the only reason we haven't seen them in Season 1 is because Nick wants to build up a new universe first with a mix of new and old characters but some are being held over, same reason Casey Jones is not in Season 1. I would be very surprised to not see Nick bring back Bebop/Rocksteady for a cartoon aimed at children.

And as I pointed out, IDW already brought them back.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Also Don Turtelli, Pinky McFingers, Big Louie, Mad Dog McMutt.

What about Irma, Burne and Vernon? Not sure about them.

And Tony Vivaldi. Irma will hopefully return, being the more "normal" side of April's life. The return of Burne and Vernon would probably require April being a reporter again, since I can't imagine any other works for Burne and Vernon.

[Pterobat]

There's no one I can think of that I would like to see more of, or see again.

Even if I'm not interested in seeing more Bebop and Rocksteady, it's easy to tweak characters to fit stories of a different tone, while still being "themselves". If the rhino and the hog were brought back, they don't have to be quite as stupid and silly as they were in the OT, but just be refined to fit the tone of a new series, while still not being known for his intelligence.

My personal favourite example is 4Kids Stockman. Even though it's not literally true that the OT was an influence on his character, I think he works well as a more "serious" take on the situation that FW Baxter was in, with some of the same personality flaws, though nowhere near as exaggerated.

I don't know if IDW Krang is another example, since I haven't read those comics yet.

They're recognizably similar, but fit the tone of their respective series. The same could be done with whatever fan favourite somebody wants to bring back for a new type of TMNT.

[meta ray mek]

What about Irma, Burne and Vernon? Not sure about them.

Irma was strongly hinted at in a 'blink and you'll miss it' cameo a few episodes back in the 2k12 series, and given this week's episode takes places at April's high school, there's the possibility Irma could show up.

As for the other two, no clue.

Also, I think it'd be redundant for Spike to become Slash in this iteration, because
the 'pet turning into a mutant' plot will be done with a pet cockroach Donnie gets in a later episode, as said by TPTB at a con a while back, if I recall. I dunno about you, but I'd rather that plot be done once.

Would be funny if Slash did show up and it's alluded that he mutated from Spike, only to have it be a complete red herring and Spike is perfectly normal/fine and it was some other turtle that mutated instead, tho'.

[MikeandRaph87]

I like the Slash idea Meta Ray Mek.

I have a feeling that most characters associated with either Image or Next Mutation are destined to stay under its only intrepetation mainly because of the high number of people that dislike those two versions. I personally like to ignore them myself. Any good qualities can be taken in forms of other characters from there on.

[Xav]

Bebop/Rocksteady don't even have to work directly for Shredder, they can be in charge of the Purple Dragons, who have been less important ever since Xever got mutated.To be honest I think I'll rather have Hun back as the leader of the Purple Dragons, I don't even think Bebop and Rocksteady were the heads of their gang in the OT

[meta ray mek]

I like the Slash idea Meta Ray Mek.

I have a feeling that most characters associated with either Image or Next Mutation are destined to stay under its only intrepetation mainly because of the high number of people that dislike those two versions. I personally like to ignore them myself. Any good qualities can be taken in forms of other characters from there on.

Thanks. I'm of a mind to think the 'red herring' approach would be the better outcome, since most people are convinced that Spike will mutate into Slash at some point or another. Having the complete opposite happen would be a nice subversion, but eh, s'only IMO.

To an extent, I agree that the universal dislike of certain concepts/characters will prevent them from being used in the 2k12 canon. But I'm the type of person who thinks that an idea with a bad execution can be made better with the right adjustments.

Like the Dr. Quease character from 'Next Mutation', to use a really obscure example. In this case, he could be a purely 'show within a show' character that hosts a science television program that's a more demented riff on Mr. Wizard or Bill Nye, and have that be to Donnie what 'Space Heroes' is to Leo (or if it's a one-time thing, Mikey could be really into the show and Donnie points out all the flaws in the show's logic and is basically a killjoy for Mikey, hehe). That could be kind of fun, and a way of reusing/improving upon something from bad source material. And the casual viewer will never know that it's a call-back to 'Next Mutation'.

But that's just me. I'm a sucker for that kind of refurbishing type stuff when it comes to multiple canons. =T

[MikeandRaph87]

To be honest I think I'll rather have Hun back as the leader of the Dragons, I don't even think Bebop and Rocksteady were the heads of their gang in the OT

The two appearances after season one in "The Gang's All Here" and "Once Upon A Time Machine" indicated Hi-Five was the leader of the gang. Hun never was nearly as fun or interesting as Bebop adn Rocksteady and he had a little more character development. He just seemed like a punk that got lucky. If he isn't a punk with a twist like the two henchmutants I am personally not interested.

[snake]

The two appearances after season one in "The Gang's All Here" and "Once Upon A Time Machine" indicated Hi-Five was the leader of the gang. Hun never was nearly as fun or interesting as Bebop adn Rocksteady and he had a little more character development. He just seemed like a punk that got lucky. If he isn't a punk with a twist like the two henchmutants I am personally not interested.

Yeah, never liked Hun.

[CyberCubed]

Hun was one of the best characters from the 4kids series. He was Tatsu with an actual personality and backstory.

The way they continually developed him from being Shredder's loyal guard to taking over the Purple Dragons and turning them from street criminals to an organized crime outfit was great. Also loved the interactions between him Karai and Baxter.

Likewise the episode, "Hun on the Run," from Season 3 was one of the best episodes of the 4kids show.

[Jester]

I feel like every post you write should be prefaced with "In my opinion...." Not everyone liked Hun...big whoop.

[CyberCubed]

I feel like every post you write should be prefaced with "In my opinion...." Not everyone liked Hun...big whoop.

So should everyone then, but I thought that was common knowledge.

[Jephael]

I feel like every post CyberCubed writes should be prefaced with "In my opinion...."

^^ This!!! 1,000 times this!!!

[snake]

I feel like every post you write should be prefaced with "In my opinion...." Not everyone liked Hun...big whoop.

Thanks jester, so what if I didn't like Hun.

[Jester]

So should everyone then, but I thought that was common knowledge.
There's a difference when those opinions are presented as opinions and when they're presented as facts.

Most of the "common knowledge" stuff in that post....pure opinion.

[Shredded]

They already returned in the IDW comics. The chances of Nick never using them in the show is slim, they bought the TMNT IP with the intent of re-capturing the popularity of the OT. They know good and well the villains at the time were the reason the show was also the success it was as much as the Turtles.

Bebop/Rocksteady don't even have to work directly for Shredder, they can be in charge of the Purple Dragons, who have been less important ever since Xever got mutated.



Bebop and Rocksteady are comedic villains in a show that's practically a comedy. I think those two would be absolutely hilarious with the talented writing of the Nick writers.

In fact the only reason we haven't seen them in Season 1 is because Nick wants to build up a new universe first with a mix of new and old characters but some are being held over, same reason Casey Jones is not in Season 1. I would be very surprised to not see Nick bring back Bebop/Rocksteady for a cartoon aimed at children.

And as I pointed out, IDW already brought them back.


Ah.. didn't know that. Turtle comics doesn't really come all the way to Denmark.

And quite honestly, even if they did. I think the only comic that actually really counts for being able to change things in the show is the original mirage, and the only things that will change the public perception of the turtles and which characters belong to them, are the tv-shows and supposed movies.

And there I have to say, the only ones thus far being re-curring are following.

The four main turtles and Splinter
April
Casey
The Shredder
The Krang
Baxter Stockman
And Karai

That's it! the six character aside from the the turtles and Splinter any new interpretation has to have now to call itself a turtles representation.
We can even with a bit of tweaking saying. "okay only five." as Karai doesn't have to appear. Maybe soon after the current show she is intergrated enough that that has changed, but that's first now then.
And maybe, maybe not, the Rat king with Leatherhead should have been on this list to, it's really all up for debate.

Every-body else is exspendable, any interpretation can feel free to make new versions merely based on them but the new faces aren't really them. It's really up to who-ever makes the show.




As for Hun.. daww, there's really people out there that doesn't like him? I thought he was a brilliant character.
I admit at first I didn't like him, he just seemed like a dumb hench-men to me, whom just as well could have been nameless, could have called him. "Big muscle guy with tatoo." and it wouldn't have made any difference to me.
But! then the show moved forward, and suddenly Hun gained more and more character, more personality, he acted like his own entity and.. He is not dumb! he is incredible capable. Just as Raph at some point said. "the purple dragons are useless without him." and I believed him, which means, with Hun the purple dragons were actually a genuine force to be reconned with.
His interactions with Karai, Stockman and Shredder were all great, there was great dynamic there, he had a genuine character, I really grew to like him over time, and he seemed like a scary threat in his own right. "Oh dang, Hun." was a phrase often uttered from me while watching the show.

Will he show up again? probably not, it's time to hand over the mantle to the next one, and our new Hun is called.. Dogpound actually. I mean think about it, loyal to Shredder and his number one genneral, is now huge as a train, and even took over the purple dragons after Xever was rendered incapable. Hmm, Dogpound is the new Hun!
Actually looking at them side by side, right now I like Hun better, but then again, Dogpound didn't have as much time to establish himself, so we'll see.

Also the end of the RPG episode is the most worthwhile thing to come out of "Back To the sewers." that was just brilliant!
Hun is a hardcore RPG Gamer! how can you not love that? :D

[CyberCubed]

Baxter Stockman, Rat King and Leatherhead return in every incarnation, except for being in the movies. Karai is probably also going to return in every incarnation now too.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I would love to see a complete Purple Dragons gang, with characters like Hun, Lugnut, Bebop and Rocksteady, giving more members a character.

[Coola Yagami]

I'd be happy seeing more than 3 members... They are hardly a gang in the Nickshow.

[Jephael]

I'd be happy seeing more than 3 members... They are hardly a gang in the Nickshow.

I wouldn't say that. Biff Tannen only had three dudes in his gang.

[Jester]

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071026001935/bttf/images/e/eb/Biff_1955.JPG
You got that right, butt-head. :D

[Jephael]

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071026001935/bttf/images/e/eb/Biff_1955.JPG
You got that right, butt-head. :D

Who you calling butt-head, butt-head? :tlol:

http://images.wikia.com/bttf/images/9/91/Young_Biff_and_Old_Biff.png

[CyberCubed]

Scumbug probably won't be seen again, he's been replaced by Chong in the Nick show.

[Coola Yagami]

rofl... but yeah, those were more like school bullies, not like a real street gang like the Purple Dragons are supposed to be. I assume it's due to the whole 'limited costs for new models' thing.

[Jester]

Scumbug probably won't be seen again, he's been replaced by Chong in the Nick show.Why does it matter? He's a pretty obscure character, with 1 episode, 2 Archie issues, and a figure to his name. It ain't like they're doing a new evil mutant Turtle and naming him Spike....oh crap.


:D

[CyberCubed]

Why does it matter? He's a pretty obscure character, with 1 episode, 2 Archie issues, and a figure to his name. It ain't like they're doing a new evil mutant Turtle and naming him Spike....oh crap.
:D

But I don't understand why use the same animal for a new mutant when there's an already existing character.

I like Dogpound and Old Hob since previous dog and cat mutants were obscure and never seen.

Scumbug appeared in the show, two Archie issues...which is still more than you can say for some other mutants.

[Jester]

But I don't understand why use the same animal for a new mutant when there's an already existing character.

I like Dogpound and Old Hob since previous dog and cat mutants were obscure and never seen.

Scumbug appeared in the show, two Archie issues...which is still more than you can say for some other mutants.

You like Hob NOW. Back when he was just a new name for a new cat mutant, you pitched the same fit.

"I don't understand why they don't make him Scratch..."

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

*Animus (Archie)
*Chameleon (Archie)
*Golani (Archie)
*Manmoth (Archie)
*Warrior Dragon (Archie)
*Sarnath (Archie)

[Candy Kappa]

But I don't understand why use the same animal for a new mutant when there's an already existing character.

He can still be Scumbug, Dogpund's real name is Chris Bradford. For all we know Chong might alias himself as Scumbug, or not.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

A lot of characters from the Archie extra specials.

[CyberCubed]

Slash is almost definitely coming. Playmates rereleased his figure in 2009 because they like him and they can probably ask Nick to include him if he wasn't the plan already. Slash has already returned in IDW so they're aware of his popularity.

Rahzar/Tokka have the popularity of the second movie to remember them by, we'll see if they ever get included in a series again though.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Slash is almost definitely coming. Playmates rereleased his figure in 2009 because they like him and they can probably ask Nick to include him if he wasn't the plan already. Slash has already returned in IDW so they're aware of his popularity.

Rahzar/Tokka have the popularity of the second movie to remember them by, we'll see if they ever get included in a series again though.

They're better in the 1987 show, not so stuipid.

[miru]

Maybe Michaelangelo renames Chong Scumbug when he mutates?


I really hope Vam Mi doesn't get forgotten, she was awesome.


EDIT: Chong is a girl, not to mention a mindless beast.

[snake]

Maybe Michaelangelo renames Chong Scumbug when he mutates?


I really hope Vam Mi doesn't get forgotten, she was awesome.

Vam who?
This post is now ten charecters

[Coola Yagami]

.... I hope Don has his pet roach for several eps. I mean Raph had Spike by ep 1 and he's already a recurring character. Having Don get a pet roach and have it mutate the same episode just feels tacked on. And who the hell wants a pet roach anyway??? I'm worried Spike would try to eat it.

[Xav]

I like Dogpound and Old Hob since previous dog and cat mutants were obscure and never seen.Who do you mean Chien Khan, Verminator-X and Hallocat from the Archie series and Scratch from Radical Rescue? How were they "never seen"?

[CyberCubed]

Who do you mean Chien Khan and Hallocat from the Archie series and Scratch from Radical Rescue? How were they "never seen"?

Scratch was a very obscure character who appeared in one videogame that most never saw him in and a "bastardized version" of him was Hallocat in Archie in one crappy issue nobody liked.

Chien Khan is a bit more prominent, but again the Archie books are now rather obscure to the people who didn't grow up with them in the 90's.

Old Hob and Dogpound are the first time cat and dog mutants have a major role in their respective series.

[Jester]

Scratch was a very obscure character who appeared in one videogame that most never saw him in and a "bastardized version" of him was Hallocat in Archie in one crappy issue nobody liked.
..."in my opinion."

There are actual links showing how Hallowcat became Scratch. Radical Rescue, though hard seems to be fairly well liked, as it was a Metroid-style TMNT game making it a welcome change from the standard beat 'um up. And I'm sure there are people who enjoyed that "one crappy issue." I know I didn't think it was that bad.

[ToTheNines]

I actually love Archie #27.

Also... "bastardized"? Can you even bastardize a "character" like Scratch?

[CyberCubed]

There are actual links showing how Hallowcat became Scratch. Radical Rescue, though hard seems to be fairly well liked, as it was a Metroid-style TMNT game making it a welcome change from the standard beat 'um up. And I'm sure there are people who enjoyed that "one crappy issue." I know I didn't think it was that bad.

TMNT Radical Rescue on Gameboy was the least selling Turtle game on that system, wasn't it? Also most people never made it through the game due to the high difficulty and maze-like world. I didn't even know Scale Tail was in the game until a few years ago.

And Scratch is more known due to the rarity of his action figure than anything else. No appearance in the cartoon, the Archie version of him was practically a different character, and one appearance in one of the less popular Konami videogames from the classic era.


Seriously, everyone will always remember characters like Rahzar/Tokka simply because everyone rewatches TMNT II. People will remember Bebop/Rocksteady because they got 150 episodes of screentime. People remember Slash because he's being brought back by IDW.


Now Groundchuck and Dirtbag could go either way, I could see them either joining the "obscure" character pile or remaining a bit more well known, due to the Turtleoids 1-hour episode, their second episode in Season 7, and the TMNT III game on NES.

[Xav]

Scratch was a very obscure character who appeared in one videogame that most never saw him in and a "bastardized version" of him was Hallocat in Archie in one crappy issue nobody liked.How is Hallocat a "bastardized" scratch when he appeared years before him? Wasn't there another mutant cat in Archie Verminator X?
There are actual links showing how Hallowcat became Scratch.There are?

[Candy Kappa]

Vam who?
This post is now ten charecters

Vam Mi was a Chinese Vampire villain in the Live-Action TV series Ninja Turtles: Next Mutations featuring a new 5th turtle Venus de Milo.

http://webspace.webring.com/people/cu/um_1529/vam34.jpg

[Jester]

There are?
Yep. Thank Adam Winters for compiling the info:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=27048

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

People remember Slash because he's being brought back by IDW.



Slash is also remembered from the "Turtles in Time", and for also being a turtle, but a bad guy one.

[Candy Kappa]

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=27048
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3568/3466919921_4f8908bea2_b.jpg

That camel dude isn't holding a Scimitar, that's a Khopesh :P

Man, I'd rather have that one then Sandstorm, this Camel looks bad donkey

[CyberCubed]

I hated a lot of the Playmates mutant characters, and apparently the writers of the show thought they were stupid too, so they chose not to use them.

I would have rathered Playmates make toys of characters in the show. Rex-1, Tempestra, Big Louie, Lotus Blossom, Shreeka, Titanus, Lord Dregg, Berserko, Kerma, etc. all should have gotten toys.

Instead we got garbage mutants like Monty Moose, Walkabout, Halfcourt and other ridiculous designs.

Thank god David Wise and the other writers didn't allow those abominations in the cartoon.

[Jephael]

I would have rathered Playmates make toys of characters in the show. Rex-1, Tempestra, Big Louie, Lotus Blossom, Shreeka, Titanus, Lord Dregg, Berserko, Kerma, etc. all should have gotten toys.

Instead we got garbage mutants like Monty Moose, Walkabout, Halfcourt and other ridiculous designs.

Playmates wasn't interested in doing many figures of human characters, except the main supporting cast, like the Channel 6 News crew. They wanted to focus mostly on mutants.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Playmates wasn't interested in doing many figures of human characters, except the main supporting cast, like the Channel 6 News crew. They wanted to focus mostly on mutants.

Yeah, but did they really think many would buy TMNT character that were never in any cartoon, comic or movie.

[miru]

Playmates wasn't interested in doing many figures of human characters, except the main supporting cast, like the Channel 6 News crew. They wanted to focus mostly on mutants.

But they made Tattoo, a minor human who appeared less than Lotus did. Oh! Maybe we could have Lotus mutate if she's ever seen again!

[CyberCubed]

But they made Tattoo, a minor human who appeared less than Lotus did. Oh! Maybe we could have Lotus mutate if she's ever seen again!

Tattoo had a bigger role in the Archie series.

[Jephael]

Tattoo had a bigger role in the Archie series.

Oh yea, his character was written way better in the comic book!

[miru]

Tattoo had a bigger role in the Archie series.

Well then why was there no Armagron, Lord Dregg, or you-know-who?

[Xav]

No I don't-know-who.

[CyberCubed]

Unless IDW revives them, I can see all these lesser known Mirage characters being forgotten:

1. Mr. Braunze
2. Stainless Steel Steve
3. Metalhead (the Justice force character, not the robot Turtle)
4. Nobody
5. Radical
6. Complete Carnage
7. Cousin Sid
8. Cha Ocho
9. Possibly Renet and Savanti Romero
10. Any Volume 4 character
11. Raptarr the avian
12. Gabrielle
13. Chote
14. Any Vol 1 guest character
15. General Blanque of the Federation
16. April's sister


Mirage had a lot of characters that just aren't memorable or toy-etic enough for IDW or Nick to use.


I didn't include Shadow though, since I can see April and Casey in IDW having a child if the series goes on long enough.

[snake]

Well then why was there no Armagron, Lord Dregg, or you-know-who?

Because at the time they appeared, playmates stopped caring and put out turtles variants
They stopped making new/non-turtle/bebop rocksteady/shredder
After 1993 ( not counting shogun shoetay or tricertron ) so sales were declining and they didn't make them.

[Coola Yagami]

Unless IDW revives them, I can see all these lesser known Mirage characters being forgotten:

1. Mr. Braunze
2. Stainless Steel Steve
3. Metalhead (the Justice force character, not the robot Turtle)
4. Nobody
5. Radical
6. Complete Carnage
7. Cousin Sid
8. Cha Ocho
9. Possibly Renet and Savanti Romero
10. Any Volume 4 character
11. Raptarr the avian
12. Gabrielle
13. Chote
14. Any Vol 1 guest character
15. General Blanque of the Federation
16. April's sister


Mirage had a lot of characters that just aren't memorable or toy-etic enough for IDW or Nick to use.


I didn't include Shadow though, since I can see April and Casey in IDW having a child if the series goes on long enough.

Kinda doubt IDW cares if the characters are toy-etic enough to use. However, that might affect Nick since they're closely tied with Playmates.

Kinda wish I had a dollar every time you mentioned Big Louie.

[Xav]

Unless IDW revives them, I can see all these lesser known Mirage characters being forgotten:

1. Mr. Braunze
2. Stainless Steel Steve
3. Metalhead (the Justice force character, not the robot Turtle)
4. Nobody
5. Radical
6. Complete Carnage
7. Cousin Sid
8. Cha Ocho
9. Possibly Renet and Savanti Romero
10. Any Volume 4 character
11. Raptarr the avian
12. Gabrielle
13. Chote
14. Any Vol 1 guest character
15. General Blanque of the Federation
16. April's sister

Mirage had a lot of characters that just aren't memorable or toy-etic enough for IDW or Nick to use. Nobody, Savanti Romero, Chote, and General Blanque all got toys already. I could see Sid or Robyn returning just because they are related Casey and April.

[snake]

Nobody, Savanti Romero, Chote, and General Blanque all got toys already. I could see Sid or Robyn returning just because they are related Casey and April.

Savanti got a toy? when, I WANT ONE.

[Jester]

Savanti got a toy? when, I WANT ONE.
4Kids made one:
http://tmnttoys.com/05figures/paleofigures/53526.html

[snake]

4Kids made one:
http://tmnttoys.com/05figures/paleofigures/53526.html

Ohhh, that's nice, are they rare?

[Jester]

Ohhh, that's nice, are they rare?
*shrugs* I dunna. I still have mine.

[CyberCubed]

Kinda doubt IDW cares if the characters are toy-etic enough to use. However, that might affect Nick since they're closely tied with Playmates.

IDW isn't Mirage, they use characters that could be popular with kids. Remember their comics are just as easily targeting 10 year old boys as much as adults.

How many kids read adult Spiderman/Batman comics rather than the cartoon-adaption comics? IDW is well aware some kids are going to see their comics on shelves and pick them up.

Seeing a bunch of mutant characters and Shredder and everyone fighting the turtles attracts kids.

[Coola Yagami]

IDW isn't Mirage, they use characters that could be popular with kids. Remember their comics are just as easily targeting 10 year old boys as much as adults.

How many kids read adult Spiderman/Batman comics rather than the cartoon-adaption comics? IDW is well aware some kids are going to see their comics on shelves and pick them up.

Seeing a bunch of mutant characters and Shredder and everyone fighting the turtles attracts kids.

Kinda beg to differ there. They use whatever characters they feel would make a good story. I doubt they'll be making toys of Apolex, Hob or the Neutrinos any time soon. In this case the IDW comics are the 'adult Spiderman/Batman' comics for now, while eventually they will be making comics based on the new cartoon which will be shorter one-shot adventures for the kids. The IDW comics (as well as some of their other series like Ghostbusters and the Crow) are for people our age nostalgia about the 80's.

Most kids with short attention spans aren't gonna care about a comic that has a lot of talking and drawn-out pacing in which not much happens in that particular issue due to massive decompression. As comic fans, we're more invested into waiting for the story and characters to develop, and are used to the 'for the trades' decompression... but most kids will most likely ditch that and go for the Nick TMNT comics with one-shot adventures with the Turtles fighting Karai, Snakeweed and Spider Bytes.

[snake]

Kinda beg to differ there. They use whatever characters they feel would make a good story. I doubt they'll be making toys of Apolex, Hob or the Neutrinos any time soon. In this case the IDW comics are the 'adult Spiderman/Batman' comics for now, while eventually they will be making comics based on the new cartoon which will be shorter one-shot adventures for the kids. The IDW comics (as well as some of their other series like Ghostbusters and the Crow) are for people our age nostalgia about the 80's.

Most kids with short attention spans aren't gonna care about a comic that has a lot of talking and drawn-out pacing in which not much happens in that particular issue due to massive decompression. As comic fans, we're more invested into waiting for the story and characters to develop, and are used to the 'for the trades' decompression... but most kids will most likely ditch that and go for the Nick TMNT comics with one-shot adventures with the Turtles fighting Karai, Snakeweed and Spider Bytes.
Are you kidding? I'm eleven and love idw turtle comic, the story is great, the action is great and I'm kind of surprised people think kids don't care about the build-up, pacing, plot, charecter development,because, I DO!

[Coola Yagami]

Are you kidding? I'm eleven and love idw turtle comic, the story is great, the action is great and I'm kind of surprised people think kids don't care about the build-up, pacing, plot, charecter development,because, I DO!

Then you, young sir, have earned my respect.

[CyberCubed]

There are 11 year olds on this forum now? Oh my.

[Jephael]

There are 11 year olds on this forum now? Oh my.

For a while I was under the impression you were just a kid.

[CyberCubed]

For a while I was under the impression you were just a kid.

Considering you know good and well I grew up in the late 80's and early 90's you know how old I am.

[Jephael]

Considering you know I grew up in the late 80's and early 90's you know how old I am.

Yea, after you mentioned it in one of your posts. Prior to that I had no idea how old you are. Hell, we still have no clue what you look like!

[snake]

There are 11 year olds on this forum now? Oh my.

:roll: is that a problem?

[Coola Yagami]

:roll: is that a problem?

Not really, though most people here are at least old enough to remember the 80's series (the forum and website IS named after the Shredder and Krang's hideout from the 80's cartoon after all) so it automatically makes most people here late 20-mid 30's. I am kinda surprised fans of the new show find this place though. I doubt they'd be looking for a place named after a hideout that isn't even mentioned in the new show yet.

[snake]

Not really, though most people here are at least old enough to remember the 80's series (the forum and website IS named after the Shredder and Krang's hideout from the 80's cartoon after all) so it automatically makes most people here late 20-mid 30's. I am kinda surprised fans of the new show find this place though. I doubt they'd be looking for a place named after a hideout that isn't even mentioned in the new show yet.

Really? I watched the 80s show and loved it, I thought most of the newer fans know about the old show.

[CyberCubed]

I'm just surprised. Even when the 4kids cartoon was airing most of the people watching it were in their teens.

Most kids at the time weren't on this forum as they were too young.

[Shredded]

See, that's why you should never be rude on the enternet, you have no idea of knowing if the person on the other side just happens to be an eleven year old.

And in that case.. Snakeweed I would never have guessed. you are very well formulated, which means, you are one smart kid. I don't think any-one here would have guessed your true age if you hadn't told us.

And well, I myself am in my early twenties, but because I am from Denmark, all Tv-shows were belated a few years and those my TV-channels bought and dubbed were syndicated multiple times, so I still had them years after they went off the US channels, and I remember the 2k3 show.

[Coola Yagami]

Really? I watched the 80s show and loved it, I thought most of the newer fans know about the old show.

true, but I kinda meant more like... most of us here watched the 80's show in the 80's when it was all brand new. before DVD and blue ray ever existed. But either way, glad you got to watch the show and that you enjoyed it.

[miru]

I'm 16 and still play with my little brother.

[CyberCubed]

Well a certain 4kids character is confirmed to return already in the IDW series:

Hun returns in IDW's "Cityfall" arc.


So its safe to say one of the most popular and well known characters from that series won't be forgotten.

[Luigiperps]

:roll: is that a problem?

There is the Internet. Some learn there. Some like snake weed and I just know stuff, and have watched other incarnations.

[Refractive Reflections]

:roll: is that a problem?

Not really, though most people here are at least old enough to remember the 80's series (the forum and website IS named after the Shredder and Krang's hideout from the 80's cartoon after all) so it automatically makes most people here late 20-mid 30's. I am kinda surprised fans of the new show find this place though. I doubt they'd be looking for a place named after a hideout that isn't even mentioned in the new show yet.

Really? I watched the 80s show and loved it, I thought most of the newer fans know about the old show.

snakeweed101, I have to agree with Coola Yagami. Most of us who grew up with the 80s series usually find this website since this website is named "Technodrome Forums". I guess we find a bit surprising when we encounter members younger than their teenage years (less than 13), because we grew up in a time (during elementary school) where the internet had not existed or was incredibly slow (dial-up connection). Therefore, finding out information about "older shows" was very limited for us and could only watch them through VHS and not through the internet, DVDs, or cellphones.

We're always glad to have new and young TMNT fans here, but hopefully this awareness of young members...**looking at the "grownups" of this forum** will encourage a few other members to behave themselves from now on... LOL :lol:

Are you kidding? I'm eleven and love idw turtle comic, the story is great, the action is great and I'm kind of surprised people think kids don't care about the build-up, pacing, plot, charecter development,because, I DO!

To the "grownups" of this forum: I think you guys found your answer as to why the IDW TMNT comics have censored some more violent aspects now. **wink wink**;)

[snake]

Well a certain 4kids character is confirmed to return already in the IDW series:

Hun returns in IDW's "Cityfall" arc.


So its safe to say one of the most popular and well known characters from that series won't be forgotten.

I know, that's awsome:).

[miru]

Labb Ratt & Space Case (Pallidium RPG)

Terror Bears (Pallidium RPG)

Howie (1987 cartoon)

Usub Gerstalk (Pallidium RPG)

Kris Mu (Supermutants OVA)

[ryukenden]

Just about everybody in the vintage toyline that were not main characters in the OT or the entire franchise for that matter.

[miru]

Galactose (Mirage)

Medusa (87)

White Rabbit (Pallidium)

Metal Klawz (2k3)

[Venom]

Labb Ratt & Space Case (Pallidium RPG)

Terror Bears (Pallidium RPG)

Howie (1987 cartoon)

Usub Gerstalk (Pallidium RPG)

Kris Mu (Supermutants OVA)

Galactose (Mirage)

Medusa (87)

White Rabbit (Pallidium)

Metal Klawz (2k3)

It's Palladium, miru :twink:

[MikeandRaph87]

Armaggon has so much potential but has had so little exposure. He needs attentio. More than any overlooked villain now that Krang is being put to good use.

Big Louie would be a good Godfather type character suited for the comicsm He is better than the generic mob bosses and does not neccessarily have a goofy cliche with him. Never cared for mob characters but this guy screams potential.

I sure hope The Punk Frogs have life in them. They are my favorite allies. A fun yet if used right perfect back up team.

Beserko, only appeared in Get Shredder in the '87 cartoon but was overshadowed. He had a backstory that could be flushed out and connection to Krang. Heck,an IDW appearance would be perfect. He carried a habdheld game and I think would have satisfied more fans if he was the lead villain opposed to Dregg.

There are a few others but I believe the four above have the most potential that are overlooked and may not return in some form.

[CyberCubed]

We'll never see Captain Coolick, Skaarg, The Starchild, Titanus or any of his mutants, or Medusa again.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Personally, I see some modern characters as reeinventions of older characters. For example, In my personal cannon I consider 'Old Hob's' full name he gave himself to be Scratch Hobson, Mikey (in his Nick Tradition of naming or renaming things) calls Alopex 'Ninjara' (a comic booky name born from his love of comic books) The monkey Dr. Rockwell mutated into is Sgt. Bananas, Don's pet roach becomes Scumbug, Spiderbytez last name as a human was Toxem, and Snakeweed was the mutant plant monster from season two of the OT. :P

And aren't the RPG characters owned by Palladium?

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Snakeweed was the mutant plant monster from season one of the OT. :P

And aren't the RPG characters owned by Palladium?

Season 2 ("It came from Beneath the Sewers").

[John Pannozzi]

And aren't the RPG characters owned by Palladium?

Technically, they're copyrighted by the guy who runs that company, Kevin Siembieda. But Eastman and Laird owned the illustrations they did for the RPG books, so the legal rights might be a bit tangled.

[miru]

Lounge lizard (RPG)

Dr. Quease (next mutation)

Bonsteel (Next Mutation)

Dark Mu (OVA)

Terrorpin (Mirage)

[CyberCubed]

I can't help but realize how many forgettable characters the original toon had, or how many were decent for one episode but I have no desire to see again. All those one-shot human characters both good guys and bad, and some of those one-off aliens:

- Skaarg and Dementor from "Convicts from Dimension X"

- The Starchild, and the alien guy after him (Loved this episode though)

- Weasel from the Season 7 finale

- Captain Dredd who worked with Groundchuck and Dirtbag in Season 7

- MegaVolt from Season 8

- Titanus and his mutants

- The Galaxians

- Krakus from the future

- Ray the fish mutant

- The Snake mutant from, "Snakes Alive"

- Captain Coolick

- Lord Dregg's minions aside from Mung

etc.


A lot of these characters I don't see ever being used again. The original toon had a lot of these one-shot or odd characters that people tend to forget.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Venus. Peter Laird even admitted to the mistake of creating a female turtle, and remains the reason why the Next Mutation isn't well liked. However, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a gag about how uncool Venus would be whether in Nick and/or IDW.

The Ninja Tribunal's Acolytes. They were created specifically for the 4kids series and aired at a time when executive meddling was causing problems, along with the dearth of toys created. The Ancient One and Ninjitsu masters could still show up later in Nick/IDW since there's a lot going for them.

Most of the Fast Forward characters, such as Cody Jones, Viral, and Darius Dun. Like the characters introduced for Red Sky, they came at a waning phase of a series, and even I don't know all the names of them off the top of my head (Torbin Zixx, Aramzedo anyone?) The Dark Turtles are a possible exce;)ption.
Same here man

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I think Ray Fillet, as the Archie one, has some minor potential to return.

[Shreddhead]

I doubt Nobody will ever make a comeback, as much as I'd like him to.

[miru]

I could see Savanti, Chote, Nobody, Silver Sentry, Terrorpin, and even Renet on the Nick show due to them.being toyetic.

IDW.will probably have a lot of the Mirage characters.

I could see Nick using Pizzaface and Scaletail.

The other toy-only ones will probably lay forgotten.

[Pterobat]

It may not count, but I highly doubt Baxterfly is going to be used as a concept again. Stories w/ newer versions of the character always draw on the Mirage comics, and I can't see them going backwards, especially when they are avoiding re-using other mutant antagonists.

I don't mind, since Baxter is more interesting as a human, and this way he's not tied to any specific personality archetype. FW Baxterfly is fun, but as that specific character.

And of course, anyone specific to FW Baxter ain't getting re-used either, so no alien computer or Barney Stockman. I liked their dynamics or potential dynamics too, but don't mind seeing 'em fade out.

Otherwise...definitely not Quarry, Stonebiter and Razorfist, which is a bit of a shame, since they broke away from the common formula of obvious animal mutants, and Quarry was one of the few female mutants.

[CyberCubed]

It may not count, but I highly doubt Baxterfly is going to be used as a concept again. Stories w/ newer versions of the character always draw on the Mirage comics, and I can't see them going backwards, especially when they are avoiding re-using other mutant antagonists.

Hm, never say never. Both the IDW comics and Nick cartoon have heavy influences from the original toon so we don't know what the future holds. They probably want Baxter to stay human for some time but it is quite possible the mutant fly concept will return in the future.

Nick's Baxter already pretty much did the whole robot/cyborg armor thing already, so there's not much else to take him.

Otherwise...definitely not Quarry, Stonebiter and Razorfist, which is a bit of a shame, since they broke away from the common formula of obvious animal mutants, and Quarry was one of the few female mutants.

I think most of the 4kids-created characters are done with, the only ones I can see returning are Hun and Bishop.

[miru]

Maybe Quarry would come back due to.her toy's rarity? If so, will she be redesigned and look "cuter"? Or would she stay the same?

[Pterobat]

Maybe Quarry would come back due to.her toy's rarity? If so, will she be redesigned and look "cuter"? Or would she stay the same?

Um...I doubt that's a criteria for bringing back a character.

That, and I really doubt anyone would try to make Quarry as "cute" as you seemed to want her to be.

[cryan]

I can't help but realize how many forgettable characters the original toon had, or how many were decent for one episode but I have no desire to see again. All those one-shot human characters both good guys and bad, and some of those one-off aliens:

- Skaarg and Dementor from "Convicts from Dimension X"

- The Starchild, and the alien guy after him (Loved this episode though)

- Weasel from the Season 7 finale

- Captain Dredd who worked with Groundchuck and Dirtbag in Season 7

- MegaVolt from Season 8

- Titanus and his mutants

- The Galaxians

- Krakus from the future

- Ray the fish mutant

- The Snake mutant from, "Snakes Alive"

- Captain Coolick

- Lord Dregg's minions aside from Mung

etc.


A lot of these characters I don't see ever being used again. The original toon had a lot of these one-shot or odd characters that people tend to forget.

Captain Filtch will never come back and he can stay for away from the Nick series.

[Mondo_Gecko]

Scratch was a very obscure character who appeared in one videogame that most never saw him in and a "bastardized version" of him was Hallocat in Archie in one crappy issue nobody liked.

CyberCubed you have start using "in my opinion" If you didn't like that issue, fine but I for one loved it and The Uncanny Trio. I only wished they returned as I loved their design and they could have made great characters. There really wasn't much room for development sadly when that issue was really a spookman, boogeyman Halloweeny type thing.

[Mondo_Gecko]

Captain Filtch will never come back and he can stay for away from the Nick series.

Yeah, wasn't the biggest fan of Capt. Filch or the generic toxic waste that mutated Mona Lisa. It's like Ray or Cobrato, just pick Mutagen and then figure out a way to insert into the story.

That being said, even though Ray was a discarded Man Ray, I would love to see him come back in some form.

[miru]

Globfather (87)

Buffy (87)

Sleeg (2k3)

[Galactus]

To be honest up until recently I would have laid odds that we would never see Mutagen Man again and then...

If he can come back I think past characters are up for grabs.

[CyberCubed]

Mutagen Man has always been a fan favorite toy though, everyone remembers him for one thing.

[Mondo_Gecko]

Mutagen Man has always been a fan favorite toy though, everyone remembers him for one thing.

Again, in your opinion. It would be just like me saying, Ace Duck is a fan favorite just because he was a favorite toy and character growing up. I still love Ace Duck and would love to see him in another incarnation but at this point it's just a wish.

I love Mutagen Man returning, but as a kid, I was the only one within my friends who liked him, same with Muckman. But I would never definitely say without certainty which character is a fan favorite because otherwise it's just speculative and presumptuous.

The one thing I love about the Nick show, is that Ciro and team is that there taking aspects from every previous incarnation and so far it's wonderful. I'm just going to enjoy the ride and it want to bring back previous characters, wonderful! I won't be complaining.

[miru]

The newcomers from Movies 3 and 4.

[Logan]

Creepy Eddie.

[miru]

All Playmates only characters from 2K7 movie (I.e Thrashmor, Dumpjumper, Multiflex, Buzzroc, etc)

Anyone from the Archie and image specials.

[miru]

Monster (Mutant Melee)

Thorny (Toy-only)

[Krang100]

Professor Jordan Perry, Wyrm & Scumbug, Mondo Gekko, Mortu, Ch'rell and Dr. Chaplin. They aren't appear in another continuity.

[snake]

Monster (Mutant Melee)

Thorny (Toy-only)

Thorny? Who's that?

[Luckyday]

Shadow Jones. She had huge part in the comics but has yet to make any appearance outside of them and I think it's probably going to stay that way.

[Leo656]

Only because Casey and April taking care of a kid makes everyone seem older than they ought to be. I actually would not be surprised if some version showed a future version of everyone and Shadow was involved.

It's an interesting character concept, it's just that you can't explore the character without having everyone in the series be "too old" based on the "Unwritten Rules of Comic Book Storytelling", which clearly state no main characters be shown as older than 30 or else become too hard for the target audience to relate to. So I think she'll be used again, but only in a "flash-forward/possible future" scenario.

I think a lot of the secondary villains from the 2003 series will be forgotten; a lot of them were fairly generic and left little lasting impression.

[CyberCubed]

I think a lot of the secondary villains from the 2003 series will be forgotten; a lot of them were fairly generic and left little lasting impression.

Indeed, only Hun and Bishop really stand out. Unless you count Ch'rell as seperate from Shredder.

The other characters in 4kids were from Mirage, so they didn't have too many original characters.

[Leo656]

I kinda feel like they put all their initial ideas towards Shredder and then Ch'Rell, and once they were mostly done with that angle, there wasn't as much effort put into the rest of the villains.

Not a unique problem to that show, though. The OT mostly had them fight Shredder, Rat King, The Fly, and after that, a bunch of guys in suits.

[Krang100]

Oroku Nagi, outside of the mirage comics he didn't appear in any adaptation. A least Kazuo Saki is regarded as Oroku Nagi. It'd be cool if both of them appeared in IDW and/or Nick toons as well, but is quite hard to be possible.

[LittleBlueHero]

I just got a shirt for my birthday that had a crap ton of characters on it. Looked like they just printed an Archie comic on my shirt. Wingnut and Screwloose, Jaguar, even metal bebop and Rocksteady were on it... mondo gecko.

Not that this means anything of course because most people would have no idea who half of them were if they looked at my shirt.

[miru]

Given Ciro Neli was given a list of characters he could use, I can see him looking up some of them to use them on the show. But anyone not on that list is doomed.

[miru]

When you think about it.

Most TMNT characters wont be used again.

For every Leatherhead, Baxter and Karai you get a bunch more Kenos, Lord Dreggs, Bonesteels, Garbage men, Mary Bones and Kermas.

Or in other words, Sturgeon's Revelation.

"90% of everything is crud, but the other 10% is worth dying for."

90% of TMNT characters have fallen into obscurity, and will eventually descend further and further into the annals of history, some perhaps even falling to the mists of time. For every much-loved Mona Lisa, there are several Justins, Halfcourts, and Howies that will gradually fade away, never to be heard from again. Even though some may be dissapointed that the likes of Armaggon have yet to be witnessed once more, instead witnessing the likes of Biotroid trotting across the screen and on toy shelves, one day, when a devoted fan becomes part of the process, they will likely return, as the dozens of Biotroids, Dumpjumpers, and Raptors fade even further into the darkness of time. In the end, only the best of the characters live on.

[Darthknuxward]

I just got a shirt for my birthday that had a crap ton of characters on it. Looked like they just printed an Archie comic on my shirt. Wingnut and Screwloose, Jaguar, even metal bebop and Rocksteady were on it... mondo gecko.

Not that this means anything of course because most people would have no idea who half of them were if they looked at my shirt.

Do you have a picture of that shirt?

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I think most of us, wanna see the Punk frogs again, I hope they don't get put on the shelf.

[Prowler]

I think most of us, wanna see the Punk frogs again, I hope they don't get put on the shelf.
Do we? Many people disliked the Punk Frogs. They all acted the same and were too naïve and unintelligent to be taken seriously. They're fairly memorable, though, even though for not good reasons.

I wonder if we'll ever see characters form the Red Sky seasons again. Dregg, Carter, Mung Titanus and his mutants, Krakus, the aliens from that episode in season 8, etc. could be brought back in some way or another with a bit of rewriting.

[neatoman]

Hmmm, well I don't think they're really going to fall into obscurity but I believe Bebop and Rocksteady, despite their prevelence in the most popular TMNT cartoon, has more or less started to enter the B-list of characters.

They were ignored for the movies, the 4Kids cartoon ignored them (for good reasons), the IDW series takes 25 issues to give them a proper introduction and the Nick cartoon introduces them towards the end of season 2 when there's already a ton of stuff going on.

[miru]

Do we? Many people disliked the Punk Frogs. They all acted the same and were too naïve and unintelligent to be taken seriously. They're fairly memorable, though, even though for not good reasons.

I wonder if we'll ever see characters form the Red Sky seasons again. Dregg, Carter, Mung Titanus and his mutants, Krakus, the aliens from that episode in season 8, etc. could be brought back in some way or another with a bit of rewriting.

Napoleon's toy was a whole different animal, however.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Do we? Many people disliked the Punk Frogs. They all acted the same and were too naïve and unintelligent to be taken seriously. They're fairly memorable, though, even though for not good reasons.

I wonder if we'll ever see characters form the Red Sky seasons again. Dregg, Carter, Mung Titanus and his mutants, Krakus, the aliens from that episode in season 8, etc. could be brought back in some way or another with a bit of rewriting.

If the Punk Frogs were to be used in some format again, they could do what playmates did with the Genghis and Napoleon toys/figs, and make them different from each other. Beef out thier traits and personalities, splash out a more in depth origin story, It could work:ohwell:

[neatoman]

Yeah the Punk Frogs are pretty much the laziest idea ever. Say what you will about Mondo Gecko and his meaninglessness (I know I have and I might be the only one here) but at least there wasn't four of him running around.

[CyberCubed]

Hmmm, well I don't think they're really going to fall into obscurity but I believe Bebop and Rocksteady, despite their prevelence in the most popular TMNT cartoon, has more or less started to enter the B-list of characters.

They were ignored for the movies, the 4Kids cartoon ignored them (for good reasons), the IDW series takes 25 issues to give them a proper introduction and the Nick cartoon introduces them towards the end of season 2 when there's already a ton of stuff going on.

Bebop and Rocksteady have returned in the two big series going on now and you don't think they're important?

[neatoman]

Bebop and Rocksteady have returned in the two big series going on now and you don't think they're important?

Well not exactly. It's not that I think they're unimportant it's just that they seem like as important as Shredder, Karai, Krang etc. That if they were removed you wouldn't really notice in the long run.

If we are to compare the IDW comics to let's day the Spider-Man comics in terms of how important the characters are, Shredder is like the Green Goblin, Krang is like Doc Ock, April is like MJ, Karai is like Venom, Old Hob is like Lizard and Bebop and Rocksteady are like Scorpion and Shocker.

[CyberCubed]

bebop and rocksteady have been in every series except for Mirage and the movies. You can technically say they appeared in 4kids too because of Turtles Forever.

They were in the original cartoon, Turtles Forever, Archie, Nick and IDW.

That's 5 series out of a total of 7 unique universes.

[neatoman]

bebop and rocksteady have been in every series except for Mirage and the movies. You can technically say they appeared in 4kids too because of Turtles Forever.

They were in the original cartoon, Turtles Forever, Archie, Nick and IDW.

That's 5 series out of a total of 7 unique universes.

Yeah sure but the problem with Bebop and Rocksteady in the first cartoon is that they have very little purpose, they're the useless henchmen to a pair of rather incompetent villains.

As for the Archie series, they're again kind of pointless except Murphy realised that and dropped them 13 issues in to be nudists on an alien planet. They were given a short comeback but essentially had no reason to back and were just back to nudism on the savannah planet again.

Turtles Forever, it would be weird if they weren't in that.

And the IDW and Nick series, I don't know. Maybe they have big plans for them in the pipeline and if they do I will take back my suspicions but right now it mostly looks they're there to bring in the casually nostalgic.

[Prowler]

A bit off-topic but I don't think we're gonna see a comical take on Raphael ever again. Sure, FW has the most memorable legacy of all the TMNT incarnations but younger generations view him as the "angry one" while Michelangelo is the "funny one". It's quite a shame since I'd love to see Raphael being the witty one again. Man, it's kinda awkward how Paulsen is in a TMNT cartoon voicing Donatello instead of Raphael. If someone had told me this a decade ago I'd call them wackos.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Hmmm, well I don't think they're really going to fall into obscurity but I believe Bebop and Rocksteady, despite their prevelence in the most popular TMNT cartoon, has more or less started to enter the B-list of characters.

They were ignored for the movies, the 4Kids cartoon ignored them (for good reasons), the IDW series takes 25 issues to give them a proper introduction and the Nick cartoon introduces them towards the end of season 2 when there's already a ton of stuff going on.

What's the point of having Dogpound and Fishface, then you can have Bebop and Rocksteady (with much more tough and deadly side, of course).

[Darthknuxward]

1.Lobster Suprise (I think that's his name). Only showed in one magazine issue.
2.Archeloga: A boss from TMNT 3:Mutant Nightmare. Another mutant turtle created by Bishop.
3.Fishsticks and all of the other little figure buddy characters: Only in the original line and nothing else.
4.Terrorpin: Aside from a few Mirage issues he had never appeared anywhere else.
5.Hamato Hana: Simple, only in Mirage and doesn't fit into most of established canon.
6.Izanagi and Izanami: Only in Archie and weren't important anyway.
7.Deadbolt: Only in one Mirage issue and never seen again.
8.Go-Komodo, King Komodo, and Pimiko: Only in Image and have never been acknowledged outside of those comics.
9.Chet: Only in 4 Mirage issues and doesn't fit in any of the current origins of the Turtles.
10.Captain Hoffman: Only in one OT episode.
I have at least a dozen more.

[miru]

I think that Eric Sachs will fade away into obscurity soon, given the negative reception to his film. Also, most of the Mutants of the Week from the Nick series.

[MisfitKraang]

I fear Tokka will fade away with Nick deciding to split him and Rahzar up and just bringing Rahzar in alone. I fear we will never see Tokka again:cry:

[Luckyday]

Looks at Mirage ancient ye old archives.

Oruku Nagi.

[Straight-Edge]

I fear Tokka will fade away with Nick deciding to split him and Rahzar up and just bringing Rahzar in alone. I fear we will never see Tokka again:cry:

I think Tokka is redundant when you have Slash. How many evil mutant turtles do you need?

Obscure and likely never to come back is Shredder's replacement from the late 90s - Dragonlord/Warlord Komodo. I liked the idea of a new enemy for the turtles, but both versions of this character (from Next Mutation and Image Comics) were sadly underdeveloped.

I loved the Image version, which had a mutation "sickness" that caused him to become a monitor lizard from time to time. The turtle's DNA would've provided a cure for him, and that alone could have provided a lot of story potential if they'd actually followed through with any of it.

[MisfitKraang]

[QUOTE=Straight-Edge;1367853]I think Tokka is redundant when you have Slash. How many evil mutant turtles do you need?

I know I know everyone says that but can't I wish? Everyone else wants to see their favorite charecters even some like...Ray Fillet...I can keep wishing to see mine!:D

[Deokeo]

Groundchuck and Dirtbag

[snake]

Groundchuck and Dirtbag

Those two are pretty awesome. I have hope that nick will bring them back.

[Don77]

[QUOTE=Straight-Edge;1367853]I think Tokka is redundant when you have Slash. How many evil mutant turtles do you need?

I know I know everyone says that but can't I wish? Everyone else wants to see their favorite charecters even some like...Ray Fillet...I can keep wishing to see mine!:D

I am with you. I would like to see Tokka again. And I like his realtionship with Rahzar in 1987 series. It's a shame that they were only in one episode

[miru]

I fear Tokka will fade away with Nick deciding to split him and Rahzar up and just bringing Rahzar in alone. I fear we will never see Tokka again:cry:

One of the Nick games will use Tokka, and the producers have also teased him.

[MisfitKraang]

[QUOTE=MisfitKraang;1367868]

I am with you. I would like to see Tokka again. And I like his realtionship with Rahzar in 1987 series. It's a shame that they were only in one episode

Thanks I'm glad someone's with me, I too like the relationship and it's such a shame it was only ine episode I woulda loved to more of them I guess grown up!:D

One of the Nick games will use Tokka, and the producers have also teased him.

Really?OMG? I hope:D

[miru]

Phew, looking back at this years later is a fair bit odd, given how many were revived...

By now, the only ones I can see not coming back are:

* Redundant characters: Lotus Blossom, Pimiko, Ninjara, Traximus, and Lugnut. To a lesser extent also Starlee, Chaplin, etc. It’s more likely to see Karai, Alopex, Zeno, and Hun. Yet at the same time, Nick has both created a Bloodsucker (who has legal red tape surrounding him) substitute and used Wyrm in very different roles. Same with Slash alongside Tokka. I could see the redundant characters retooled to work and be more distinct.
* Scrappies, like Venus, Carter, Cody, Eric Sachs, etc. The hatred of these characters makes people cautious about using them again, outside of some nods (Carter’s Mutant form in the Chris Bradford show, Venus on the side of the van). Then again, they have pulled out Dregg and Vernon Fenwick from the vault. (Though PD probably sealed the latter’s coffin).
* Very minor characters like Hokum Hare, Dumpjumper, Thrashmor, etc. Self-explanatory. Though there may be the occasional Princess Tribble.
* Mirage characters that could clash with Nickelodeon mandates and current lore, like Hamato Hana and Tang Amaya.
* Characters with rights issues, such as the Golden Harvest, Konami, and Image casts. Yet they apparently got the rights to Tatsu a while back, so there may be hope of Aska just yet.


Now, what about which current characters will fade? I suppose Eric Sachs is an obvious one.