What kind of mutant is Super Shredder?

[Shark_Blade]

Isn't he supposed to evolve into mutant animal/plants/minerals, etc?

Instead he just grew gigantic and packed with brand new huge spiky armor all over his body. :tconfuse:

[Spitfire]

Well he drank it, which no one has ever done before, and it fused him with his armor and made him super buff. I always say the wear it had on his body caused him to die of a massive heart attack, like taking too many steroids. It enhanced his body as he had not come in contact with any specific animal. Then again the movie ooze seemed to just make animals larger/more human like, or plants bigger, so it sort of fits that if a human was covered in it then they would just grow larger.

[Candy Kappa]

The movie ooze seemed to function similar like the comic ooze, making animals humaniod/bipedal and with ability to human speech and human-like intellect.

What happens with a human using the ooze? bigger, stronger and badder I suppose. The Armor? It looks cool.

[gobo]

Pro wrestler mutant.

[CyberCubed]

I kind of view it as similar to what the venom does to Bane in Batman. Just as Bane gets more muscular once he pumps the venom into his system, so does Shredder.

[chrisdude]

I always figured it was still the "last creature you came in contact with" rule, except for Shredder it was human instead of a different animal.

[Shark_Blade]

Very interesting views guys. Seems plausible that the ooze reacts differently when consumed. :)

I always figured it was still the "last creature you came in contact with" rule, except for Shredder it was human instead of a different animal.
This one's interesting too. So far we haven't seen anyone else who touched a human being and exposed to the mutagen. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[CyberCubed]

Why would being in contact with another human make him muscular?

Wasn't he last in contact with that girl Shredder took hostage from the dance floor? By that logic Shredder should have grown boobs or something.

[prophecy718]

Why would being in contact with another human make him muscular?

Wasn't he last in contact with that girl Shredder took hostage from the dance floor? By that logic Shredder should have grown boobs or something.


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[Candy Kappa]

I always figured it was still the "last creature you came in contact with" rule, except for Shredder it was human instead of a different animal.

with that, we'd never had a live-action movie when both Splinter and the turtles mutated in the sewers, with no human contact.

We'd have a freaky anti-pollution movie featuring rat-turtle hybrids :P

[jestermon]

Never questioned it when I was younger, but after I always thought it was funny because the last animal he was in contact with was one of the Turtles wasn't it?

Still wish they made a huge super articulated version of that someday.

[gobo]

I always figured movie-mutagen made everything more humanoid. So, Super Shredder was an extra humanoid human.

[chrisdude]

with that, we'd never had a live-action movie when both Splinter and the turtles mutated in the sewers, with no human contact.

We'd have a freaky anti-pollution movie featuring rat-turtle hybrids :P

What? The turtles touch humans before they fell in the sewer and touched the ooze, and Splinter touched humans before he touched the ooze. Same mutations.

[Coola Yagami]

Too bad the ooze is so rare in the Mirage comics. We never found out what happens if a human got exposed to the ooze.

[grungethemovie]

well, in the movie there's no last-contact rule, animals just become humanoid (which, to the extent i know is what happens in the original comic) seems like if you're a human you just turn into Kevin Nash

[Coola Yagami]

well, in the movie there's no last-contact rule, animals just become humanoid (which, to the extent i know is what happens in the original comic) seems like if you're a human you just turn into Kevin Nash

Big Sexy the Turtle Killer.

[Cipher]

It's kind of funny that movie-verse Shredder has the dubious honor of being the only example of a human coming into contact with the comic-style mutagen.

I guess it just makes things get really stupid.

[Candy Kappa]

What? The turtles touch humans before they fell in the sewer and touched the ooze, and Splinter touched humans before he touched the ooze. Same mutations.

no, it worked pretty much as the Mirage version.

Splinter have probably not touched a human since the death of Yoshi as he scarred Saki, and he lived in the sewers before he found the turtles.

[grungethemovie]

if we wanna talk about bad contact transformation, let's talk bradford and xever, that are shown touching a dog and a fish in the middle of the episode that they spend the most time kicking and punching and grabbing the turtles XD

but i never understand how hamato yoshi can transform into rat if he's cleaning up the turtles in mutagen, i mean, i understand he might have been in contact with rats just before, but they always show him go right to the turtles, when, if you think about it, he should not have to touch them during that, or he would turn to turtle, or the turtles would turn to... turtle-human-rats!

[Shark_Blade]

I think because the turtles are already mutants, so it didn't have any effect. It took the last "natural" beings, being the dog and the fish.

[Coola Yagami]

I also found it funny how the mutant fly and hyena and hell... ALL the mutants in Turtles Forever were mindless monsters.... and yet Hun was still able to talk and act like himself when he became a Turtle.

[sykosis]

if we wanna talk about bad contact transformation, let's talk bradford and xever, that are shown touching a dog and a fish in the middle of the episode that they spend the most time kicking and punching and grabbing the turtles XD

but i never understand how hamato yoshi can transform into rat if he's cleaning up the turtles in mutagen, i mean, i understand he might have been in contact with rats just before, but they always show him go right to the turtles, when, if you think about it, he should not have to touch them during that, or he would turn to turtle, or the turtles would turn to... turtle-human-rats!

Maybe xever turned into the fish cause he ate it so he was still digesting it. Maybe he ate it raw like sushi. Bradford ate the dog??!

[Shark_Blade]

...why would anyone eat a dog? O.o And even if he did, Bradford would be killed because the owner of that dog is Shredder.

[grungethemovie]

...why would anyone eat a dog? O.o And even if he did, Bradford would be killed because the owner of that dog is Shredder.
What do you mean why would anyone eat a dog?! o_O
XD

[Luigiperps]

...why would anyone eat a dog? O.o And even if he did, Bradford would be killed because the owner of that dog is Shredder.

No, the dog is the owner of shredder, or he's miwa.

[oldmanwinters]

but i never understand how hamato yoshi can transform into rat if he's cleaning up the turtles in mutagen, i mean, i understand he might have been in contact with rats just before, but they always show him go right to the turtles, when, if you think about it, he should not have to touch them during that, or he would turn to turtle, or the turtles would turn to... turtle-human-rats!

I think Yoshi stepped into the mutagen before he ever touched the turtles. So, I guess he was already undergoing the first stages of his transformation before he even picked up the turtles to clean them.

[miru]

I also found it funny how the mutant fly and hyena and hell... ALL the mutants in Turtles Forever were mindless monsters.... and yet Hun was still able to talk and act like himself when he became a Turtle.

Even though they were made with the 87 ooze, they were just as mindless as any other 2k3 mutant, for example Quarry. Also, I guess Hun simply got more, or maybe because the thing he touched was a mutant, so he became a mutant mutant.

[grungethemovie]

I think Yoshi stepped into the mutagen before he ever touched the turtles. So, I guess he was already undergoing the first stages of his transformation before he even picked up the turtles to clean them.
yeah, i guess, i always had to accept that
but you know what would have made more sense? if he never picked them up

[gobo]

Even though they were made with the 87 ooze, they were just as mindless as any other 2k3 mutant, for example Quarry. Also, I guess Hun simply got more, or maybe because the thing he touched was a mutant, so he became a mutant mutant.
I like that logic. I just dunno how plausible it is. Human + humanoid turtle = 3 parts human & 1 part turtle, right? That's a pretty weak turtle-likeness. However, I suppose you could say that, since the turtles were only humanoid and not actually human, then Hun became 2 parts human & 1 part turtle.