Dreamwave TMNT #1 Official Discussion

[PWDESAI]

Spoilers




Great issue, they go into detail about the cops (based on Peter and Kevin), but stick to the cartoon quite well.

[PWDESAI]

http://images.wheeljack.com/Comics/TMNTpic2.jpg


I thought I would scan a little preview for you guys

[Nate]

Thank you! I can't wait for this book! Any news on the chance of it being be picked up as a full series?

[TheShredder]

Mmmmmmmm "that's not a knife? This is a knife" mmmmmmm where have I heard that line before..............

[Nate]

Crocodile Dundee

[Leo656]

DAMMIT, I used the same joke in Chapter 1 of my "Legacy of the Ring" fanfic. :lol: I knew keeping Peter David tied up in my closet was a bad idea.

[Reznorite420]

WHA???? It's out already?

[JameO]

WHA???? It's out already?

Yeah it seems that some people got it early because the delivery date is today so I guess they got it early and able to sell them a day early.

[PWDESAI]

well, they weren't supposed to sell it, but i stole mine :wink:
Actually I have a very good comic store friend, can't say where though, dont' want him or her to get in trouble.

it was a very good issue and I recommend everyone picks up at least 2 copies!

btw I do believe this is an ongoing series, but I'm not sure, I'll ask my friend.

[PanMan]

is this just a re-telling of the tv series, cause that's pretty much what i got out of the preview. i know it's more in depth, but is it just the tv show re-told?

[Chris]

In previews it mentions nothing about this series being only a mini so I'd assume it's here to stay.

When I email Dan about the comic he said the current plan is for the comic to stick to the continuity of the show, but it's always possible for it to do it's own thing in the future if it proves to be popular enough.

[LeSean]

Hey guys.

the first 4 issues will run along with the continuity of the first 4 episodes of
the animated show. after issue #4, the series will take on a life of its own with its own original storyline.

keep it locked. see you guys in 30 days. :wink:

[Nate]

I love you.. er, uh.. I love your work. (Yeah, that sounds sane) Thanks for the info!

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Sound interesting, LeSean. Almost like the Archie TMNT series. I wasn't too excited about this one but I just might check this one out.

[GK Punk]

lol great preview there!

Well that totally has me sold on this book, Peter David is a great writer, and LeS' work impress me more and more each time I see it. (I didn't even like it at first :o :lol: ) I can't wait to see where else they go with this series.

[JameO]

Hey guys.

the first 4 issues will run along with the continuity of the first 4 episodes of
the animated show. after issue #4, the series will take on a life of its own with its own original storyline.

keep it locked. see you guys in 30 days. :wink:

Thanks for the information. It's great to have you here updating us on the new comic. Can't wait till today when I get my hands on the first one!

[Bowser]

Why is the Peter David cover $9.95?!? I was going to get both, but I'm not spending $10 on a comic that I can get for $2.95 just because it has a different cover! :x

[JameO]

Why is the Peter David cover $9.95?!? I was going to get both, but I'm not spending $10 on a comic that I can get for $2.95 just because it has a different cover! :x

I will be getting both covers even if it is that. They are both amazing covers!

[PWDESAI]

I don't think it's a "Peter David" cover, it's Pat Lee I think. I'm getting it for like $15, it's one of those covers to every 15 normal issues? Am I right Lesean? I'll be getting it for sure, this comic rocked, I look forward to this series way more than mirage, because mirage...well...killed off someone I really like :|

[Bowser]

Oops, I meant Pat Lee. But still, $10? I don't know, I mean, I already got a big day as it is, with TMNT #10 being $3.95 and Superman Red Son #2 being $5.95, plus all the regular stuff (Ultimate X-Men, Gotham Central, the new Kingpin, etc.) =/

[Anarchistguy]

I just got the comic. :o It was GREAT!!! really well drawn and detailed. I think it's terrific that this comic tells about events that don't occur in the show.

[PWDESAI]

I heard it's going to be priced over $10, so the comic stores can make a profit.

[Bowser]

I heard it's going to be priced over $10, so the comic stores can make a profit.

*smacks head*

I'll have to see if they can hold it for me, and get it next week :(

[HorseTechie]

Hrmm... if the cover is fancier (like printed on heavier weight stock), or it has holographic effects, etc.. I can see why it would be more. They do that to many of the TF comics put out too.

[Fraggle]

ok guys i feel so sorry for yea i payed only £1.90 UK money (for peeps that live in the uk that is not much) which is $2.95 in U.S.A dollers and this was for the pat lee collecter cover issue they saved it for me and the issue 10 of mirage £2.60 which is $3.95 dollers.

my conclusion is that both comics are out in the uk and they kick major ass espellicay leaseans and peter davids.

[Raven]

ok guys i feel so sorry for yea i payed only £1.90 UK money (for peeps that live in the uk that is not much) which is $2.95 in U.S.A dollers and this was for the pat lee collecter cover issue they saved it for me and the issue 10 of mirage £2.60 which is $3.95 dollers.

my conclusion is that both comics are out in the uk and they kick major ass espellicay leaseans and peter davids.

:o hey you said major ass thats my line!!!!!!!!!1 :P aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
foam is comming out of my mouth!!!!!!!!

[Keno]

i got it today! wow :o its so so good! I was reading it on the subway going home and i was laughing outloud at all the good parts. people were giving me wierd looks but it was SO GOOD! and the art is just breathtaking!!!

i wanted to buy both covers but my store only had one...O well i'll keep my eyes open. so worth it!!!! i cant wait until next month!!!!!!!!!!

[JameO]

i got it today! wow :o its so so good! I was reading it on the subway going home and i was laughing outloud at all the good parts. people were giving me wierd looks but it was SO GOOD! and the art is just breathtaking!!!

i wanted to buy both covers but my store only had one...O well i'll keep my eyes open. so worth it!!!! i cant wait until next month!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah I really enjoyed it too. Very good and well drawn. Yeah me and Michaelangelo went to our comic store in the area and they only had LeSean's cover one. Maybe they will get it later.

[PWDESAI]

they get the Pat Lee cover next week.

[donnyman444]

i got the comic today it was great. me and stefano went to the shop at 9:40 and waited till 1:00 when the shipment came. im surprised the hsop didnt kick us out we got so annsy. i was dissapointed it didnt have the fott soldier fight scene but there was so much great stuff i dont care and i love it. :D

[Leo656]

I just got back from the comic store, they had one issue left of both covers: The one they reserved for me (the cover with Leo in the foreground up to his waist in the sewer), and the other one. I considered getting both of them until I saw a sticker on the other one that said the price: $14.95!!! Sorry, I love TMNT but not happenin'. I've already paid ten bucks each for special covers of Masters of the Universe and Voltron the last few weeks. This price gouging on "variant" covers is getting ridiculous, especially in this case. The book just came out and the cover did not appear to be "enhanced" in any way at all, just a regular cover. What a rip.

Ah well, at least I have a copy of the issue. I picked up a ton of books today and only paid $25. :D

[PWDESAI]

I'll be getting that book for $15, it is pricey, but I'm a completist, I can't help it :(

[Aztec General]

I got both covers. My shop only had one of the Lee cover and he charged me $8 bucks for it. But hey, when you like the TMNT what are you gonna do? :lol:

As for the story, I loved it. What a great idea to have the comic fill in the blanks of the show. I'm glad to see that it is in direct continuity with the new series.

[donnyman444]

dreamwave looks great. i give lesean a standing ovation. i just hope he doesnt go crazy after the first 4 comics.

[Peanut]

I thought it was pretty cool. Could have used a bit more Ninja Turtles though. I loved LeSean's art. Great stuff.

[JameO]

I thought it was pretty cool. Could have used a bit more Ninja Turtles though. I loved LeSean's art. Great stuff.

Yeah very good artwork LeSean! I can't wait till next month when #2 comes out!

[Stefano]

i got the comic today it was great. me and stefano went to the shop at 9:40 and waited till 1:00 when the shipment came. im surprised the hsop didnt kick us out we got so annsy. i was dissapointed it didnt have the fott soldier fight scene but there was so much great stuff i dont care and i love it. :D
yeah that got long but it was worth it. I didnt mind the art work of mirage before. but after seeing dreamwaves art the mirage looks bad. All the humans look the same. some times i mix up who is who. I mixed up april and casey when i read. Im not dissing mirage at all its a good story but the art is nothing compared to lesean

[HorseTechie]

Heee.. this issue was neat. I liked how Peter gave the rookie cop and the failed PD member a background like that. I feel so sad that the cop lost his best bud to crime. :cry:

Nah.. just kidding. I didn't cry. It was neat to see Eastman animated. Kinda looked like Wierd Al at times too. *lol*

I thought they had enough Turtle 'screentime' to me. Just enough to get a feeling for the guys, who was who, and some good all ninja fight scenes. I do like how it still fills ya in on the plot for those who hadn't seen it on TV yet.

This comic may also help fill in some of the loose ends the show left hanging. Maybe that's why the TV shows feel a bit rushed for the 20 minutes alloted.

My only nit-pick... Raph must be really good to disarm a dude's knife, with fingers between prongs of his sai, and not nick his knuckles in the process. :wink:

[Kid Icarus]

Great issue. I actually like this one more than the Mirage series. *runs and hides*. :lol:

[Leo656]

Probably not the only one. Most people I know around here (including my girlfriend) refuse to read the new Mirage book because of the art. I wouldn't be surprised if the DW comic sells better in the long run, it appeals to a wider audience I think. Better art, story based loosely on the cartoon, it's in color... all that just screams "mass appeal".

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Story-Very dispointed in the story. It was almost exactly like the TV show save for the fact there was more of the two cops. There was even dialogue that was the same! I think it should be based on the show, not be a comic translation of it. It should be a separate story.

6/10

Art-Here's where the comic really shines. LeSeans art makes the pacing very fast and doesn't dawdle on anything. It's really easy to animate the figures in your mind as you're reading along. But one thing got on my nerves a bit, the tons of lopsided page panels. It's alright to use them in action scenes...but use them sparingly or they lose their effect very quickly.

8/10


It was OK, but coming from such talented people, it could've been much better.

[PWDESAI]

It's supposed to be based on teh new show. That's what they were told at least, the 4 issues or something. It was an awesome bonus to get other stuff away from teh show. With that said, I believe that the Dreamwave book sold very well at Graham Crackers Comics, a pretty big chain of comic stores here in Chicagoland. Better than the Mirage at least. I'm starting to dislike that book more and more...
IMO I like urban fighting a LOT more than alien things. I'm glad Peter Laird is telling the story his way, but his way is not my way. I totally prefer the original 3 issues to anything else. I guess the very first utrom story arc was pretty enjoyable as well, if anything the art didn't suck. But in issue #15 when he started to get into the super heroes n' stuff, it sorta lost it for me. That's when i started to prefer the old cartoon over it, and eventually the new cartoon.
Image wasn't all that great either, the art was just a tad better than lawson's imo. He drew the turtles funky and killed off a lot of characters and messed others up. Mikey remained undamaged though, Biased? Who Knows.

[Keno]

Wierd Al

LMAO!!!!!! :lol:

i knew he resembled SOMEONE...i just couldnt place it!!!!

[LeSean]

Hey everyone,

just checking in to say hi and thanx for giving TMNT#1 a shot.
Peter David has done a fantastic job on creating an entertaining
TMNT series for fans and has somehow managed to pull off the edge
of the old, with the fun and spunk of the new, and still incorporate
the animated series in there. i'm amazed.

stick around, theres a lot of character development for the characters
that the show didnt touch on, that you're gonna love, and fight sequences
unlike you've seen the green guys do.:)

Finally, thanx so much for the compliments and the honest opinions/critiques! When the word first got round here about the new series and the original conceptual designs got out and posted here, there was much speculation on wether this series was worth the time.

i'm glad to see you guys dug it. i'll do my best to stick around and keep you guys posted on upcomings on the new series. feels good to be a member here at Technodrome.

See y'all in 28 days...


LeS-

P.S. Great Meeting You greensborohill:) thanx for coming out to say hi. hope its not the last.

[Dinny]

ok guys i feel so sorry for yea i payed only £1.90 UK money (for peeps that live in the uk that is not much) which is $2.95 in U.S.A dollers and this was for the pat lee collecter cover issue they saved it for me and the issue 10 of mirage £2.60 which is $3.95 dollers.

my conclusion is that both comics are out in the uk and they kick major ass espellicay leaseans and peter davids.

Where do u get ur comics. £2.60???

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Is this an ongoing series or a mini-series???

[PWDESAI]

I believe ongoing, but it would be nice if LeSean answered :)

LeSean will you be attending wizard world? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO! BTW do you know Jimmy Hayes from Graham Crackers Wheaton Comic Store? He talks about you Dreamwave guys and how cool you are, I'm a good friend of his, I think :P

[Fraggle]

:D so dinny my buddy you wanna know where i got the collecter cover for only £1.90 is Forbbiden Planet they had two copies of the pat lee cover and they reserved that cover for because they know i am a die hard turtle fan.

p.s in the comic after the turtles have fighted the purple dragons and raphs says hes just gettin warmed up and the foot drop down and mikey says u got yr wish raphie boy they miss out the fight scence because it looks like they just skip to the police talkin about peein in a cup is this with every1 elses comic or just mine!!!!!!

[Aztec General]

p.s in the comic after the turtles have fighted the purple dragons and raphs says hes just gettin warmed up and the foot drop down and mikey says u got yr wish raphie boy they miss out the fight scence because it looks like they just skip to the police talkin about peein in a cup is this with every1 elses comic or just mine!!!!!!

Nope, this is in everyone's. It seems they tried to skip all the parts of the episode that we already saw. Which makes sense, when you are trying to tell the same tale from a different perspective.

[tOkKa]

-->> ..i appreciate the 'animated' smoothness of the book.. it really gives me alot of hope for TMNT and i'm gettin' pretty excited about how it gives the little background details from parts of the episode you missed (different perspective) like the relation of Jonny and Frank.. ..and not just an total adaptation of the show..

David/ Lesean = http://www.parshift.com/ovens/Secrets/images/Beans1.gif
' c00' beans..

.. n' i'll bite anybody that sez otherwise.. :D

[Raven]

man the next time I go to the comic shop im picking this comic up!
just hope they have it

[Karpo_007]

Ordered my copy today.

[GuyDuBlanc]

I was psyched for this because Dreamwave has such excellent artwork. I think LeSean held up on his end.

Anyone read ARKANIUM? LeSean really had some cool stuff going down there. Had these outstanding mid-air action shots. Also the coloring did a great job of capturing the mood/atmosphere.

TMNT #1 was cool, no doubts there. I felt the writing was a little off. Not quite sure how to pin it down. Like the 1st episode of the show, it seemed like they were trying to do TOO much.

The best part was probably that blur technique on that one kick by Mikey. I think LeSean will easily top this art in subsequent issues. He's capable of a lot. I hope he brings the mid-air stuff like he did on ARKANIUM into it. It will own.

And that cover with the Turtles on the one side and the Foot on the other was total ownage.

[Jephael]

I just got the book and it is awesome! I agree too about the writing, but was interested in how they chose not to focus on the turtles so much in this issue. I get the feeling they'll focus alot on Baxter and April in the next 2 issues.

[SlayerX]

Instead of starting a new thread and stuff, I thought i'd just ask the question in here.

What date does that other covered TMNT DW #1 come out? The one that is supposed to be so much money? I cant find where somewhere answered it :( Thanks :D

[Dinny]

:D so dinny my buddy you wanna know where i got the collecter cover for only £1.90 is Forbbiden Planet

Is that the Forbidden Planet near the British museum?

[PWDESAI]

Instead of starting a new thread and stuff, I thought i'd just ask the question in here.

What date does that other covered TMNT DW #1 come out? The one that is supposed to be so much money? I cant find where somewhere answered it :( Thanks :D

It's already out, if your store didn't get it already, it's possible they'll get it tommorow or they didn't get it at all. You had to order so many copies of #1 to get the variant cover.

[SlayerX]

:| thats the only way you could get it? :( That blows lol

[Ko2paTro2pa]

I really like the new comics art work. I like the fact that the story is an extension of the show. The only thing I didn't like was the fact that we are basically reading what we already know from the show, how about something new like happenings between episodes. I will continue to read these comics, hopefully we get some original stories in the future.

[Stefano]

i think its cool that it fallows the show. It does a good job not just repeating the episode in my opinion.


When is #2 comming out

[Cascadia]

I got the issue with Leo in the water.....not the other one. I was getting the first graphic novel, which was $10, Issue #10-$3.95, and the DW issue....so I spent tons of money on my TMNT stuff for this month.

[Krakko]

i haven't seen this comic anywhere when did it come out? i wanna get this it looks good!

[Leo656]

It came out two weeks ago, and, unfortunately, it's apparently sold out, so finding a copy of it is either gonna be really hard or altogether impossible. :(

Luckily my comic shop reserves whatever books I ask them to, so I never miss an issue of any book I'm interested in.

[Karpo_007]

My copy is still in Mail, I really hope it comes tomorrow. If not, I'l have to wait untill monday.

[Cascadia]

Karpo, the DW issue #1 is very nice.

[Karpo_007]

Yeah Im pretty sure of that.

[JameO]

Yeah finding a copy is going to be hard. I want to try and find the other cover for DW #1 no the LeSean one the other one. Can't find it. Got to go on an adventure to try and find it.

[Karpo_007]

Ok, I got my copy today. Writing is very good, and so is the art, but like most of people I think they should center more on TMNT.

[Krakko]

i don't even have a comic shop where i live it sucks i haven't even SEEN one even in the city

[TurtleKatarn]

i don't even have a comic shop where i live it sucks i haven't even SEEN one even in the city


I didn't know that there was one about 10 minutes away from me, I found it by going to www.the-master-list.com also you could look in your phone book :D

[JameO]

i don't even have a comic shop where i live it sucks i haven't even SEEN one even in the city

Where in Canada do you live?

[Bebop]

Ok, I finally went to the comic book store today and picked up a copy. Here's my opinion on the new comic. :| I just don't think that it compares to the Mirage series. It felt way too short in my opinion. If I hadn't seen the TV show, then this comic would have seemed better. I already know what's going to happen and it happens exactly the way it supposed to and does it rather quickly. Also the price tag of this comic is way too high for what is being offered, a short story printed on cheap material. At least provide a nice sturdier cover for future issues. And what's the deal with this variant cover. I haven't seen one but $15. That just seems a little outrageous. I like to try and collect every issue but unless I find this issue for under $5 there is no way I will be purchasing it. Finally, I have something good to say, the artwork easily outdoes Mirage. Also, I hope that their are original entertaining stories after the first 4 issues when it is supposed to stray a little from the TV show. I am giving this comic a few more months to see how it continues on. Sorry about the rant but, aside from the artwork, my expectations fell short.

[Karpo_007]

One thing that prevents it from getting to Mirage's level are the same limitations that the new show has, No blood, Cut wounds, graphical death, and things like that. Nevertheless it seems like a very good comic book, and I hve high hopes for the future.

About the price, normal issues still cost 3$ a issue, the ones that cost 15$ are just collectors editions with diffrent cover.

[Bebop]

Yeah I know the normal issues are $3.00 but all I was saying is that I don't think it is worth $3.00 for such a short read.

[Nate]

One thing that prevents it from getting to Mirage's level are the same limitations that the new show has, No blood, Cut wounds, graphical death, and things like that. Nevertheless it seems like a very good comic book, and I hve high hopes for the future.

About the price, normal issues still cost 3$ a issue, the ones that cost 15$ are just collectors editions with diffrent cover.

Who said there won't be blood and graphic death scenes in the comic?

[Karpo_007]

It's pretty obivous, It's based on the cartoon, and first issue proved that already. It is made for younger adudience, and that is a fact.

[Brodie]

Anyone notice Raph's Crocodile Dundee quote?

"You call that a knife? that's not a knife. This is a knife!"

[HorseTechie]

Yep. Then Don gets all wise on Raph for saying his sai ain't a knife. :P

[Jephael]

Oh yeah, then Raph calls his bo a "shtik"!

[CRUSHED_BIZKIT77]

Can anybody tell me where I can order the new TMNT comic on the web?

I went to the Dreamwave page, but their store is offline.

I had read that the comic sold out very quickly and I didn't want to miss out.

[Karpo_007]

I order mine from www.midtowncomics.com

[CRUSHED_BIZKIT77]

Does anyone know why the Pat Lee variant cover is more expensive?

Does it have extras? :-?

[Anarchistguy]

Nope, It's just because the cover is different.

[Aztec General]

Does anyone know why the Pat Lee variant cover is more expensive?

Does it have extras? :-?

It's much more rare than the Lesean cover. For example my comics store had 20 issues and only one of them was Lee's cover (which I got by the way :D ).

[JameO]

Does anyone know why the Pat Lee variant cover is more expensive?

Does it have extras? :-?

It's much more rare than the Lesean cover. For example my comics store had 20 issues and only one of them was Lee's cover (which I got by the way :D ).

My comic store only had LeSean's cover. And I still haven't got the Pat Lee one. I got to try and find a comic store that has it.

[Shaggz]

Does anyone have a scan of Lee's cover. I thought I saw it awhile ago on the DreamWave site, but now I can't seem to find it. My comic shop didn't have it.

[HorseTechie]

I do! Snagged em from a comic book distributor awhile back. Just click on the thumbnails to get the full size images.

http://www.turtlequest.com/tmnt/dreamwave.html

[Shaggz]

Beautiful! Thanks alot :D

[HorseTechie]

:wink: De nada.


Does anyone know why the Pat Lee variant cover is more expensive?
To be honest, my Pat Lee variant was the same price as the LeSean cover.

[JameO]

I do! Snagged em from a comic book distributor awhile back. Just click on the thumbnails to get the full size images.

http://www.turtlequest.com/tmnt/dreamwave.html

OMG! I want the Pat Lee one! All I got to do is find me a copy. Maybe I will ask the comic store guy if he knows where I could get one or something like that. Thanks for the picture.