Official Episode Discussion #19: "Baxter's Gambit"

[Machias Banshee]

Well, it's been a few weeks, but we Finally have a new episode!

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So, Baxter's gone nuts between fighting turtles and dealing with Shredder, a giant dog and a pissed-off cyborg minnow. He's decided to pull a King Minos and throw everyone into a giant Labyrinth. Let's see if April's ready with a ball of string...

I guess I could put in some bad references to spandex and singing "Magic Dance", but I don't think we need to worry about the Fire Gang throwing their body parts around in this episode. Just look out for Oubliettes!

There's bound to be some more Mousers, and who knows what else our mad scientist has up his sleeves... :D

I'M OUT OF IDEAS ON THIS ONE!!


Stay Tuned!!!

[Machias Banshee]

Let the Discussion begin!!!

[tlg80]

Didn't see much of that coming. :o

[MutagenJosh]

That was a good episode. However not the best, It was a good one. We are a step closer to a possible April/splinter father/daughter episode. They way the turtles and FF/DP Worked together was amazing. They should work together more often.

[Zulithe]

Awesome ep. Loved the Raph/Fishface stuff. Finally more April developing her abilities. And we know her weapon of choice now!

Now I wonder when our next ep will be... please not 3 weeks again

[JTH]

.................................................. of Doom!!!

[tlg80]

Awesome ep. Loved the Raph/Fishface stuff. Finally more April developing her abilities. And we know her weapon of choice now!

Now I wonder when our next ep will be... please not 3 weeks again

My guide says next week, I believe.
I enjoyed the April and Splinter training moments. And some fish face backstory.

[TurtleTitan97]

This was a great episode! I loved how we got some backstory on Xever and how he came to work for Shredder. And I really liked that the mousers showed up again. Also liked the scenes with April and Splinter, I can't wait to see her use that fan in combat. :)

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

Yay for backstory! And bombs! And lasers! OF DOOM!!!!:D

[Donatello19]

Great episode, well worth the wait.

Things I liked:

The return of Baxter

Seeing more of Fishface, and him working along side Dogpound for the first time.

The Turtles having to work with the bad guys

The episode didn't focus on one specific character

Splinter and April sub plot. If that fan thing is going to be April's weapon, then why didn't her figure come with it?! :x

Hints towards....Karai turning out to be Miwa

Xever's back story

Things I didn't like it:

The Kraang: They were there for a few minutes, and then disappeared for the rest of the episode.

Neither team got the device, so the Kraang got away with it...they failed to explain that.

Is Baxter still in the foot? I'm sure they wouldn't forgive him for this, and I dunno is Shredder would even let him live...hopefully they'll elaborate on that, but I (sadly) doubt that would happen.


So yeah, great episode. It raised some questions and had a few plot holes, but overall it was worth the wait in my opinion.

[Ryanator008]

Great episode, well worth the wait.

Things I liked:

The return of Baxter

Seeing more of Fishface, and him working along side Dogpound for the first time.

The Turtles having to work with the bad guys

The episode didn't focus on one specific character

Splinter and April sub plot. If that fan thing is going to be April's weapon, then why didn't her figure come with it?! :x

Hints towards....Karai turning out to be Miwa

Xever's back story

Things I didn't like it:

The Kraang: They were there for a few minutes, and then disappeared for the rest of the episode.

Neither team got the device, so the Kraang got away with it...they failed to explain that.

Is Baxter still in the foot? I'm sure they wouldn't forgive him for this, and I dunno is Shredder would even let him live...hopefully they'll elaborate on that, but I (sadly) doubt that would happen.


So yeah, great episode. It raised some questions and had a few plot holes, but overall it was worth the wait in my opinion.

I think that all of these "plot holes" are just going to be explained in the next episode, buuuuuut you could be right.

I didn't like this episode as much as most of you seem to. My main problem is that most of the episode was the 6 of them walking around the maze.

[Kevin G]

Great episode, well worth the wait.

Things I liked:

The return of Baxter

Seeing more of Fishface, and him working along side Dogpound for the first time.

The Turtles having to work with the bad guys

The episode didn't focus on one specific character

Splinter and April sub plot. If that fan thing is going to be April's weapon, then why didn't her figure come with it?! :x

Hints towards....Karai turning out to be Miwa

Xever's back story

Things I didn't like it:

The Kraang: They were there for a few minutes, and then disappeared for the rest of the episode.

Neither team got the device, so the Kraang got away with it...they failed to explain that.

Is Baxter still in the foot? I'm sure they wouldn't forgive him for this, and I dunno is Shredder would even let him live...hopefully they'll elaborate on that, but I (sadly) doubt that would happen.


So yeah, great episode. It raised some questions and had a few plot holes, but overall it was worth the wait in my opinion.


My guess is that Baxter has now gone solo. Unless Dogpound and Fishface capture him and he gets all bruised and beaten up, and Shredder will do to him what he did in the 2003 series and start to slowly dismember him whenever turns on them.

Personally (and not being bias because I love Baxter Stockman and he's my favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles villain) this is probably one of my favorite episodes. I really liked how they presented a backstory to Xever (who knows, maybe they will do one for Chris Bradford ?).

I like the Mouser cameo too and of course as other had said, I love the April/Splinter scenes. Happy April found her weapon of choice. Could possibly be foreshadowing for the season finale if she uses it.

Overall I really enjoyed it.

[RaphAndDonnie]

Solid episode, definitely. I loved Splinter and April's interactions and they elaborated more on Xever. It was...interesting that the Turtles and the jerks ( as Mikey so rightfully put it) were working together. And when I say interesting I mean that it was a new take, refreshing for the tried and true always trying to kill each other thing even though that happened in the beginning and end of the episode. Also what Xever said was very true, he and Raph are similar.

[LH]

An April-centric episode? Cool! I can't wait to watch it tomorrow morning! :tlol:

[pannoni1]

Much better episode than last weeks that had a nice mix of drama, from an anti-villain (Fishface) trying to simply survive along with providing an interesting back story which does show that Xever was born to steal and has been part of a lower division of the Foot, which reminds me of the OT episode Invasion of the Turtlle Snatchers where Donatello and Rocksteady teamed up after getting swallowed into an underground labyrinth. The interaction with Splinter/April was well presented and is becoming a stepdaughter/father relationship along with a Tang Shen mention. Fighting random Foot/Mousers adds to the variety of enemies, and the cliffhangers at various points in the maze was dramatic, especially the slicing red knifes where it seemed like Leo just about got sliced to death. The copter escape by Baxter shows that he doesn't have to be a fly to escape above. Overall, a good setup episode for future events.

Overall: 8/10

[Luigiperps]

[QUOTE=Donatello19;

Neither team got the device, so the Kraang got away with it...they failed to explain

So yeah, great episode. It raised some questions and had a few plot holes, but overall it was worth the wait in my opinion.[/QUOTE]

They beat the kraang off screen.

[NinjaMan]

Awesome episode. Liking the rivalry with Fishface and Raph. And it was good to see April training with Splinter. Even got a cool backstory on Xever. And now Baxter is on his own. Great episode as usual.

[Slade]

Almost missed this one. Glad I didn't. I really enjoyed it. Raph and Fishface really made a good team.

[CyberCubed]

Definitely one of the best episodes in a while. Baxter being awesome, Dogpound/Fishface working with the Turtles, Xever backstory, April choosing her weapon and confirmation Miwa is Karai, and Fishface throwing the weapon at Raph at the end proving the lesson of the episode.

This is the Nick show at its best.

[Powder]

Looooved this episode. I pretty much feel as Cubed does. It was awesome having all of that at once, done well, without it feeling crammed. So perfect. I really really like the relationship that is developing between Splinter & April. She's my favorite version of April ever no question. I had feels when Splinter called her my child. It's a great thing that he can sort of be her father while hers is in captivity, and that she can sorta fill that daughter void he has. Heart warming stuff. :)

But anyway the action was really cool too. As I had said in my thoughts about other fight-centric episodes, it looks like it would make for an awesome set of levels/boss battles in a video game.

I really hope they plan to explore Raph & Fishfaces little thing too, I found that very interesting. A+

[CyberCubed]

Also forgot to mention seeing the Mousers again was a nice touch, no matter how brief it was. The other cartoons had Baxter pretty much abandon the Mousers after their episodes, I hope this Baxter keeps them around.

[Xav]

How did Baxter repair the Stockmanpod without the tPod?

[STORMSHADOW__210]

Good but not great episode. I liked fishface a lot more before he was mutated to well fishface lol.Enjoyed the back story.

For the record, i love this show....BUT i don't know about y'all but I'm still waiting for this show to really shift gears and deliver that "holy s--t" episode similar to the 4kids late season one episode when Shredder and the elite gaurd beat the hell out of leo,burned down aprils apt/antique shop,epic foot battle and where casey showed up to help ....NOT THAT is what im waiting for the nick show to give me...and its getting down to the final few episodes of season one so keeping fingers crossed.

[CyberCubed]

How did Baxter repair the Stockmanpod without the tPod?

The same way the turtles got their subway truck moving again without the power cell, they improvised.

[Donatello19]

Is it just me or do filler episodes like "Cockroach Terminator" fly by while episodes like this seem a little longer, even though they're not?
EDIT: By the way, my favorite quote from this episode came from Mikey. "I can think of five enemies way archer than him!"

[Raph's Girl]

Really good episode!! Loved that we got a backstory for Xever and loved that they teamed up. "Stop helping each other!" :lol:

Yay! April has a weopon now! A fan of DOOOM! :P

[oldmanwinters]

Granted, the Fan of Death worked pretty well for Kitana in Mortal Kombat, but I'm not sure it's gonna do April much good in battle. Historically, Raphael has had a hard time in fights where his strategy is to throw his weapons at his enemies, and that seems like it might be April's primary defense with the fan. Oh well, I'm looking forward to seeing her use it anyway. And it was really funny to watch her experiment with the other weapons. Part of me was thinking Splinter might give her a boomerang in homage to the old Archie comics that told the story of how the Turtles got their weapons. :-)


Maybe it's just me but for the first time I was struck by how much Karai's face seems to remember "Miwa's" mother in Splinter's photograph.

[BabyTurtles]

Mikey: turtle. jerk jerk. turtle turtle. jerk. turtle....wait too many jerks....

Mikey: you poor poor man....:sweatdro:

were my favorite quotes XD

and April's FAN OF DOOM!!!! YES!! AWESOME!! XD

nice to see Xever's back story~ bonus!!

and finally...the part when they were getting hit by Splinter's wooden sword was funny XD it was like a ninja hot hands.

[Gwydion]

I actually really enjoyed this episode, like, a lot. A ton of really great interactions in this episode - it was nice to see everyone working together. There was some pretty fun humor too.

But a lot of it really comes down to the Raph/Fishface stuff for me. Their fight scenes were pretty sweet - whether fighting against each other or on the same side - and they bounced well off of each other (...both figuratively and literally, I guess, lol). Also loved their little chat and the very end with the ball of DOOM. It was great to finally get more of Xever's story. This episode set up a pretty cool rivalry for them, and I hope this isn't the only episode we see it in.

[Cure]

Awesome episode.

In case anyone was still wondering, Xever is indeed Brazilian. In his flashback, they show a store with a sign for a quick second. It shows the sign for the Brazilian real, R$.

[snake]

DAMN!!!! I missed it!!!

[BabyTurtles]

DAMN!!!! I missed it!!!

saturday? :D

[Avatar Yuffie]

It's official: April is Venus.

I do like Splinter's sentiment of April getting his daughter's weapon, it's very heartwarming.

[oldmanwinters]

It's official: April is Venus.


Ah, dang, I hadn't thought of that...

:tgrumble:
:tcry:

[BabyTurtles]

It's official: April is Venus.



wait what? :-?

[Ninjinister]

The tessen. I thought of that immediately.

My brother and mother both swear they heard Leo call Raph "Ralph". I watched the episode twice and I am absolutely certain I would have caught it. Did he actually say that?

[Avatar Yuffie]

What's Venus' choice of weapon?

[demonsweat]

Really great episode! Some excellent fight scenes in there, especially the one in the beginning. I caught Mikey dancing like Maxi (Soul Calibur) for a second and geeked out (though I think Maxi’s moves are really based on Bruce Lee’s). Oh man I’m gonna make some nice battle gifs out of this one…

Xever’s backstory was wicked cool. God I love those 2d sequences. I really started to sympathize with the character there. I’d thought his and Raph’s interaction was great. I’d like to see the two of them bro it up again.

So Baxter’s using Sentinel Spheres now, eh? Has he been hanging out with the Tall Man on the side? :lol:


I really really like the relationship that is developing between Splinter & April. She's my favorite version of April ever no question. I had feels when Splinter called her my child. It's a great thing that he can sort of be her father while hers is in captivity, and that she can sorta fill that daughter void he has. Heart warming stuff. :)

Meee too. I admit, I was not happy at all when I heard that they were making April a teenager. Consider this a total 180 guys. Awesome job Nick, you guys actually got me to love a teenaged version of April. I still can't believe it myself. :D

[ironman29758]

Mikey: turtle. jerk jerk. turtle turtle. jerk. turtle....wait too many jerks....

Mikey: you poor poor man....:sweatdro:

were my favorite quotes XD

and April's FAN OF DOOM!!!! YES!! AWESOME!! XD

nice to see Xever's back story~ bonus!!

and finally...the part when they were getting hit by Splinter's wooden sword was funny XD it was like a ninja hot hands.

This. I like seeing April trying to find a new weapon,. This was a great episode.

[BabyTurtles]

PLEASE tell me there's a new episode next week!!

[Ninjinister]

I thought of this moment when I saw this episode:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3012/2582598134_c83cf7902a_z.jpg

[BabyTurtles]

I thought of this moment when I saw this episode:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3012/2582598134_c83cf7902a_z.jpg

AWWWWWWWWWWWWW that's sweet.

[Gwydion]

Man, I feel kind of out of the loop - the April/Splinter parts were pretty much the only portions of the episode I didn't particularly care about. Don't get me wrong, I didn't dislike them; I just thought they were kinda forgettable. Maybe it's because I'm still waiting for this version of April to finally grow on me.

[BabyTurtles]

on a different note...Mikey's fight sequence at the start of the episode was pretty sweet (maybe I just have a bias toward Mikey though lol ) XD

but he did the Maxi thing XD

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Good episode, but compared to the last episode, it was kinda boring. Frankly aside from the Xever back story, and his interaction with Raph, It felt very bland to me. Also did anyone else get dizzy watching those spinney black and white things?

[Avatar Yuffie]

I also like the fact the guys EVADE laser beams. I know I'm nitpicking, but it really annoys me that in the older cartoons the Turtles would just stand their ground and block laser beams with their weapons.

Doubly so with Don's wooden bo staff.

[Shredded]

Loved this episode, mostly I loved getting to spend time with Dogpound and Fish-face.

Loved Dogpounds small comments and roll of his eyes when Stockman begins on his speaches. "Of cause."

We really get to know these two now, as persons, and I really really like. Also love seeing them thrown into different scenarios and situations, again, just so we really get to know them, and I em excited about seeing where their characters will go in the future, there are many potential futures.

I also liked to finally being allowed to spend a little more time with April in isolation, I feel like I get to know her a little better know, which is great. My favourite moment was when she accidently knocked down that picture frame and asked who they were, I thought that scene was actually rather touching.

I thought this was a lot of fun, and a good way to merely spend a little more time with the characters so we can be more invested in them in the future.

It also seems to me that Dogpound and Fish-face has now realised that they just are a team now, and as a result works a bit better together. they are not as eager to stab each other in the back in this episode..
Or it's just because at first, they have Stockman to look down on instead of each others, and later they have turtles to hand out their undivided hate to, so they didn't even have time to hate each other in this episode.

[shredder orokusaki]

That traitor Baxter Stockman will pay for what he has done! He wanted to kill my servants dogpound and fish face! Next time i will see him i will kill him! He can not escape me!!! I will kill him!!!!!:x:x:x:x:x

[ObiWanFan4life]

Oh good lord, please don't let April become the new Venus please!

[MrTMNT2012]

WOW, I went into this episode with High expectations....and the Episode exceeded my expectations!

What an amazing episode, loving Baxter Stockman getting more into the action and the Labrynth had some of the coolest designs yet. Loved the Raphael/Xever stuff, and AMAZING Fighting choreography!

So yes, now we know the nick writers CAN Write Raphael very well! My only gripe with this Episode is that there wasn't a lot of humor in it but it was pretty much perfect.

Baxters Gambit was even better than Bishops Gambit IMO! (9.3/10)

[Lethal Lullaby]

I loved the design of the 'labyrinth' they had to go through. This episode was really fun to watch! :D Xever's backstory was interesting. And seeing him and Raphael as a team, (for that small moment) was so cool. Also I can't wait to see April use her killer fan.

[Jester]

"It makes things go 'boom.'"
"Technically, it makes things go 'Zwee-chooooo! Pop!'
....

It's important to be accurate."

[BubblyShell22]

What an awesome episode. I loved the maze and the look into Xever's past as well as April finally getting her weapon. I still feel it's a bit too soon for her to get it, but I can understand why she would want it. It was great to see Raph and Fishface actually working together even though it was short lived. Overall, a pretty decent ep.

Fave quote:

Raph: Now, where were we? Oh, yeah, I was going to turn you into fishsticks.
Fishface: No, I was going to turn you into turtle soup.

I may have gotten that wrong, but close enough.

[CyberCubed]

Good episode, but compared to the last episode, it was kinda boring. Frankly aside from the Xever back story, and his interaction with Raph, It felt very bland to me. Also did anyone else get dizzy watching those spinney black and white things?

Compared to the Cockroach episode? This one was much better in terms of writing and story.

[Donatello19]

Compared to the Cockroach episode? This one was much better in terms of writing and story.

I agree. IMO, Cockroach Terminator is the worst episode so far.

[CyberCubed]

Its rather interesting how many Kraang storylines are going on here. There's the TCRI portal that's up and running, the sphere they used to drill into the Earth, the disintergrator beam they stole in this episode...and whatever the mutagen does on their homeworld in Dimension X.

Hopefully all this stuff isn't forgotten.

[Shredded]

Can we take a moment to appreciate how freaking hardcore Splinter is in this show?


When April accidently threw that seith thingy and it came hurling back as a boomerang... and Splinter grabbed it by the blade using only two fingers..

He could have grabbed it by the handle or some-thing, or knocked it out of the air and it's collisions course towards April.

But no no. He had to grab it out of the air... by the blade... using only two fingers. o_O;




Seriously, if he ever meets Dogpound and Fish-face in hand to hand come-back, he is going to beat the snot out of them in two seconds flat.

They will seriously have to dedicate an entire episode to his and Shredders fight when it comes, no less will be able to cut it.

[LH]

This was an awesome episode! I really enjoyed seeing April and Splinter spend some time together. I also have a little more respect for Xever. We can't trust him, but it was really cool to see him and Raph interact peacefully for a few minutes.

"Turtle Turtle Jerk Turtle Turtle Jerk" :tlol:

Its rather interesting how many Kraang storylines are going on here. There's the TCRI portal that's up and running, the sphere they used to drill into the Earth, the disintergrator beam they stole in this episode...and whatever the mutagen does on their homeworld in Dimension X.

Hopefully all this stuff isn't forgotten.

Don't worry.. I have a feeling all this is leading up to something BIG. Really BIG. :twink:

[Shreddhead]

I thought of this moment when I saw this episode:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3012/2582598134_c83cf7902a_z.jpg

I just watched this ep and I was thinking of this page too!!

Good ep, some pretty funny lines too. I especially liked the "Magnetically sealed" Star Wars reference.

[snake]

PLEASE tell me there's a new episode next week!!

Hopefully, this every other week thing is getting annoying

[Shredded]

Question... when Karai finds out that she is in fact Splinters daughter.

Any of you think feelings of jalousie could enter the character? I mean, Splinter basically got four new children to replace her. And to make matters worse, now it's April, whom got the fan meant for Miwa/Karai.

I just mean.. if I was Karai finding out all of that, I probably would be slightly pissed. That is a rather big auchie. Even if she didn't know that Splinter was her father.

Or maybe she does know, that Shredder told her a long time ago that Hamato Yoshi is her real father, and the little lie is that Splinter left her?
In which case another girl her age showing up with her fan would hurt even more :/

Well the episode after the next one is called. "Karais vendetta." hopefully some questions will be answered there.

And the next is called. "The enemy of my enemy." ... I so hope that title implies Shredder and Krang interaction.

[snake]

Did anyone see the awesome snes styled closing promo for turtles? I love it!

[blue_angel99]

"I gonna sing the doom song now....doom, doom, doom, doomy, doomy, doom....."

A fan?! :tconfuse:

Xever (aka Huey) backstory was touching :tcry:

Leo: Blister Stockboy! :tlol:


Great new episode. My life is balanced.

I had a thought:
April is Miwa.:teek:

[Luigiperps]

I had a thought:
April is Miwa.:teek:

That would be interesting.

except for the fact that April looks nothing like Yoshi or Shen

[blue_angel99]

[QUOTE=Luigiperps;1080393]That would be interesting.

ninjas are the masters of disguise. :tcool:

[MrTMNT2012]

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/04/06/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-baxters-gambit-review?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ign%2Farticles+(IGN+All+Artic les)

IGN's Review of 'Baxters Gambit': (8.6/10) :tgrin:

[BabyTurtles]

so guys..Splinter said that Miwa would have been around April's age XD

now I'm sure it's Karai (same age!!)

[NinjaPug]

Finally got to watch it. Great episode for what essentially could be seen as a 'filler' episode. Episodes like this and Never Say Xever are so much better than mutant of the week eps like Cockroach Terminator.

- Great to finally see the Turtles, the Kraang, the Foot, Dogpound and FishFace in one big fight at the same time

- Glad to see Baxter break away from the Foot and not look like a bumbling idiot with his plan.

- as everyone has mentioned, loved the Xever backstory. The FishFace / Raph connection was cool too. I'm glad they still had FishFace throw the ball of doom at the end

- Not really a fan of what they're doing with April. Never liked the idea of her being a ninja. Oh well, at least we got more hints about Miwa being Karai.

Another strong episode from Jase Ricci. This and I, Monster are his only credits so far but both episodes have been fantastic.

I'm ready for Shredder to get back in the mix. It seems weird that he hasn't made a move himself since The Gauntlet.

[Shark_Blade]

So many things to love!

- April's training and metal fan. Simple and elegant.
- Leo stabbing his sword straight at Stockman's face (when he's in the robot). Killer intent through and through, I love it.
- They break the monster-of-the-week tradition, if I'm correct. Nice.
- Xever's backstory. I love that they give backstory to other characters as well.
- The Baxter's maze/trap reminds me of an exact same thing in one of the Teen Titans episode.
- Mikey's boredom of Baxter's monologing.

Awesome episode. :3

[Coola Yagami]

Always thought Karai was older... she sure seems more developed than April. She also seems older than the Turtles, while April seems to be the same age as the Turtles.

Anyways here are my thoughts. http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2013/04/nicktoons-tmnt-episode-19-baxters-gambit.html

[Ninjawolf]

Always thought Karai was older... she sure seems more developed than April. She also seems older than the Turtles, while April seems to be the same age as the Turtles.

Anyways here are my thoughts. http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2013/04/nicktoons-tmnt-episode-19-baxters-gambit.html

April's 16 (a year older than the Turtles) so her and Karai being the same age fits... as for her being more 'developed' teens develop at different rates...

[Shredded]

Always thought Karai was older... she sure seems more developed than April. She also seems older than the Turtles, while April seems to be the same age as the Turtles.

Anyways here are my thoughts. http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2013/04/nicktoons-tmnt-episode-19-baxters-gambit.html

April is one year older than the turtles, while they are fifteen she's sixteen.

So yeah.. that would make Karai sixteen to, all-though I actually kind of initially thought she was seventeen, just slightly older than April. And hell she might still be, they would still be almost the same age.

It's just things must have happened so fast to Splinter if he first had baby Miwa, then had his home destroyed, then fleed from Japan to the US, then got mutated. And after that we know he spend fifteen years raising turtles.

So well, the question for me has always been, how old was Miwa when Splinter got mutated? I choose to say two years. Because then it would give Splinter one year to actually be with Miwa and Tang-shen, and another year where he gets to New-york and life alone for a little while. That's just me.

[Coola Yagami]

Idk... I kinda never saw as Karai and April being the same age until this line.

[VaughnMichael]

Not a bad episode but not a great one either.
Do you think they could try and squeeze anymore information into this episode?
I did like Raphael teaming up with Fishface though and getting a bit of his backstory.
This episode really just looked nice and that's mostly how it came off to me.
Look at all of our characters they've got more details because we got a bigger budget now lol.
It's all good though and seriously Mikey is my favorite on this new show and I've never been a fan of that character before.
The teaming up with the hench mutants really reminds me of the 80's toon when that would happen with Bebop and Rocksteady.
How did Baxter repair the Stockmanpod without the tPod?
I was wondering the same when I watched this.
What's Venus' choice of weapon?
Mystic Balls *giggles*
But the action figure came with the fan blades.
I agree. IMO, Cockroach Terminator is the worst episode so far.
I have to dissagree, I think that "The Pulverizer" episode is by far the worst so far.

[miru]

April gets her battle fans... Maybe she will become Venus?

Oh, and it's implied Miwa's still out there...

[Forneus]

What an outstanding episode. I love storylines that put their heroes together with their villains against a common threat and this was a truly inspired example. From the Arcade-like maze, to the stellar action (that went with some great music) to story development on the Xever and April front, nothing was off about this episode at all.

Raphael and Fishface's playdate was my favorite part of the episode. It made the character of ever a tad deeper and gave us quite the insight into his mindset. He's a cool villain and I love that the show didn't defang him, with his final try at the turtles at the very end.

But April and Splinter's scenes were just as good. I am really liking this version of April (and I thought I'd hate her) and I love the fact that they are not skirting around her kunoichi training. I'd like even more. Gorgeous weapon and quite the sad story to go with it. I can't wait for more April in action moments.

And lots of people seem to complain about Raphael's lack of sense or development...Who really understood Splinter's lesson in the end? Eh...he's just fine.

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Compared to the Cockroach episode? This one was much better in terms of writing and story.

I don't deny this, I don't know, I guess it just depends on one's preference and mood as to what kind of episode they enjoy. Myself, I prefer the more humorous adventure episodes, and that was lacking in this episode. I feel like nothing happened in this episode, no new questions were asked and no old questions were answered. At least in "Cockroach Terminator" we got a new character who could possibly return, and a new vehicle specifically for Raph.

Again I don't think this was a bad episode, I don't think any of the episodes so far have been bad (maybe "The Pulverizer?) I guess it wasn't my cup of tea.

[kzekedaurus]

Ok, so my thoughts:
It was better than I thought it would be. The labyrinth has a cool and very clean design. Surreal too. And I know with most cartoons, you're not supposed to ask how he's able to make these things and where he has the space to put them, but... yeah. I mean, even with a supplier like Shredder. Eh.

The beast of DOOM was also cool: the missile launched mousers, the hydra heads, the shock wave blast. Please say THAT's gonna' be a toy. And speaking of doom, I would like to think Jhonen Vasquez would approve.

Finally, on the personal side of things, Xever's backstory was nice. I was surprised that it was Raph who applied Splinter's lesson at the end. Which I shoulda' seen coming, because Raph is a cynic. He understands that Fishface is still his enemy, and that he can't let his guard down just because they shared a moment there. He understands the nature of the enemy. I like these moments, because they seem to work better than the Raph-centric episodes in developing the character. Any way, good on the writers for that.

And april got a weapon. WOO! Not gonna' comment on the Miwa stuff till the writers get to that.

[Keroscene]

It was an okay episode. It was nowhere near as good as the cockroach episode, but the only thing that bugged me about it was the feeling that the whole maze thing seemed a little beyond Baxter's abilities.

[BabyTurtles]

I don't deny this, I don't know, I guess it just depends on one's preference and mood as to what kind of episode they enjoy.



I guess it does.....I didn't like TCRI and Mouser's attack XD...but loved all the other episodes including the Raph episodes which people think were the weakest :( I also loved the Pulverizer >:D

but I noticed I like episodes more if they show my favorite characters alot XD...........

[Donatello19]

I have to dissagree, I think that "The Pulverizer" episode is by far the worst so far.

At least that episode had the introduction of the Shellraiser AND Fishface's first battle with the turtles.

[CyberCubed]

I don't deny this, I don't know, I guess it just depends on one's preference and mood as to what kind of episode they enjoy. Myself, I prefer the more humorous adventure episodes, and that was lacking in this episode. I feel like nothing happened in this episode, no new questions were asked and no old questions were answered. At least in "Cockroach Terminator" we got a new character who could possibly return, and a new vehicle specifically for Raph.

Again I don't think this was a bad episode, I don't think any of the episodes so far have been bad (maybe "The Pulverizer?) I guess it wasn't my cup of tea.

This episode answered quite a lot.

- We finally see the Foot battle the Kraang proving they are enemies

- Pretty much confirmation that Karai is Miwa

- April begins training with her weapon

- Baxter broke out on his own and may no longer work for the Foot

- We learned Xever's backstory and the team up was great

- Xever and Bradford may not be as completely evil as they seem to be


And lastly Raph learning the lesson of the episode and the Kraang stealing the weapon were nice touches.

Definitely the best episode in a while.

[Coola Yagami]

I'm surprised all focus was lost on the fact that Kraang managed to get away with the weapon they were stealing. I hope it does come back in a future episode so it's not a moot point.

[BubblyShell22]

Hey, CY, I read your blog post about the episode, and I don't think April was around to see the picture of Yoshi, Shen, and Miwa and knew what it was. Remember, Leo took the picture so April probably had no idea about it, which is a good thing.

As for Karai being April's age, it makes sense. Girls develop at different ages and not all girls are small like April is in height.

[the_minimizer]

Will we ever seen Shredder and the Kra'ang fighting on the same side?

[CyberCubed]

Will we ever seen Shredder and the Kra'ang fighting on the same side?

No, and I hope it stays that way. Shredder has no reason to work with the Kraang.

[gobo]

This Baxter is so uncreative, it hurts. But, I think this was his best ep so far.

[Xav]

That traitor Baxter Stockman will pay for what he has done! He wanted to kill my servants dogpound and fish face! Next time i will see him i will kill him! He can not escape me!!! I will kill him!!!!!:x:x:x:x:xOh, dear lord, Shredder wouldn't call his henchmen by the nicknames the turtles gave them.

[Keroscene]

Will we ever seen Shredder and the Kra'ang fighting on the same side?

Who knows, but it feels inevitable. They have a mutual enemy and overlapping interests, judging by the fact they wanted the same implodey thing. Shredder obviously has no problem with letting others do his dirty work.

[CyberCubed]

Shredder has no reason to work with aliens that want to terraform the planet. I can see Shredder using the mutagen but no reason to team up with the Kraang.

[BabyTurtles]

I'm kinda glad Baxter Stockman broke away from Shedder XD

Shedder was getting to many connections. XD

[Martin]

The team-up was nice and all but I'd prefer if they had advanced through the maze whilst fighting each other. I guess they could have gone either way with this one and they chose to portrait a more humane (ha!) side of dogpound and fishface. The first scene where they were all fighting each other was great (one of -or maybe the- best fight scene/s so far), though I kind of regret that direction was lost so the story could focus on baxter.

Speaking of Dex... uhm Baxter, I had a little WTF moment after he threw the turtles and our evildoers into the maze. I know it's a cartoon, but hear me out: if you've got your so called 'arch-nemeses' trapped in what is basically an inescapable cell, why on earth would you give them even the slightest chance to escape? why not, I don't know, drop acid on them the first chance you get. I get that there are some people who are seriously twisted and like to do that kind of thing, but baxter really doesn't seem to be that guy.

On a separate note, I find April's relationship with Splinter adorable. I'm really looking forward to seeing what the design for April's ninja garb will be; after seeing her weapon of choice a few ideas danced in my head so I'm really excited to see how it turns out.

Overall I feel that the maze idea was kind of weak but I understand what they were trying to pull off, though I believe that that same concept could have been achieved through a different plot (one in which baxter was more of an actual threat). April's scenes with Splinter were great, and the krang fight in the beginning of the ep was fantastic. All these little things (and a bunch more that I'm probably forgetting of) kept this ep from being another filler, and raised it a bit above the ones we've been getting as of late.

[Coola Yagami]

Hey, CY, I read your blog post about the episode, and I don't think April was around to see the picture of Yoshi, Shen, and Miwa and knew what it was. Remember, Leo took the picture so April probably had no idea about it, which is a good thing.

As for Karai being April's age, it makes sense. Girls develop at different ages and not all girls are small like April is in height.

Thanks, I appreciate you reading my blog. I was pretty sure when Splinter made his little speech about losing his humanity and his clan (Rat King episode), while holding the picture, that April was there too. It just feels pretty late in the show for April to NOT know who the people in the picture were.

[Berserker]

The maze idea smacked of laziness and/or deadline pressure. Black and white untextured checkerboard background for half the episode? Did they run out of production time?

[Miles]

This episode was much better for me than "The Cockraoch Terminator", though I'm starting to feel like the Krang are becoming a string of unrelated plot points to further the individual episodes without ever actually going anywhere. I'm having Lost flashbacks here; the writers would like us to believe that there's some big story arc going on, but it really looks like they're just making it up as they go... I mean drilling into the center of the earth? For what? The simple answer is probably because that's what evil villains do. Nothing more. Hopefully the writers can prove me wrong, but trying to tie all of these together at this point...

Bleh. It just sounds a bit messy. (Sorry for the Krang tangent.) And while I'm mildly ranting, what's with Shredder's character? I haven't been able to get a very good read on him - he just seems off. More like he's there for other people to react to than to play a main role in things himself.

- - -

Anyways, the two sides teaming up was very unusual but it worked out well, all in all. It's a bit hard to imagine them actually trying to kill each other after this, though. It'll be fun to see what kinds of personal insults they'll be able to develop for each other in the future, lol. (Especially Raph and Fishface.)

April for me? I could go either way. She's just 'okay' in this series so far, teenager and all. She does have a bit of that creepy 'cheap 3-D human' vibe going on sometimes where she looks...doll-like or something. Anyone else notice that? It's like early Dreamworks motion capture / Polar Express thing. Just a little off. *shrugs*

Oh well. Thanks for reading, and here's hoping we can line things up for a great season closer!

[Miles]

The maze idea smacked of laziness and/or deadline pressure. Black and white untextured checkerboard background for half the episode? Did they run out of production time?

Ha! I thought the same thing. Visually, that was my biggest problem with this episode. Obviously the budget was blown on something else. Hopefully something coming up over the next couple of weeks as opposed to last week's giant crap-fest. Er. I mean Cockroach. :lol:

[LH]

Ha! I thought the same thing. Visually, that was my biggest problem with this episode. Obviously the budget was blown on something else. Hopefully something coming up over the next couple of weeks as opposed to last week's giant crap-fest. Er. I mean Cockroach. :lol:

Ciro did say the season will end with a bang. :twink:

[ToTheNines]

Yay for a good episode! Jase Ricci is a talented writer for sure. He loves using the family portrait as a plot device lol.

I don't have much to say that hasn't been said already though. Here's to hoping the rest of season 1 stays strong, and airs weekly!

[CyberCubed]

The maze idea smacked of laziness and/or deadline pressure. Black and white untextured checkerboard background for half the episode? Did they run out of production time?

What gave you that impression? I thought the maze background was made to disorientate the characters so they didn't know where they were. They flat out said they were lost and walking in circles, hence the point.

I really wish people wouldn't claim the animators are lazy or "ran out of time" because of a style choice.

[Powder]

That traitor Baxter Stockman will pay for what he has done! He wanted to kill my servants dogpound and fish face! Next time i will see him i will kill him! He can not escape me!!! I will kill him!!!!!:x:x:x:x:x

No. Stop. Go away forever.

[snake]

That traitor Baxter Stockman will pay for what he has done! He wanted to kill my servants dogpound and fish face! Next time i will see him i will kill him! He can not escape me!!! I will kill him!!!!!:x:x:x:x:x

Take this crap to the role playing forum along with that Baxter stockman user WHO TYPEZ LIKZ THIS

[Coola Yagami]

April for me? I could go either way. She's just 'okay' in this series so far, teenager and all. She does have a bit of that creepy 'cheap 3-D human' vibe going on sometimes where she looks...doll-like or something. Anyone else notice that? It's like early Dreamworks motion capture / Polar Express thing. Just a little off. *shrugs*


I kinda agree. Especially her hands and fingers. In motion they look ok cause you don't really notice them, but when you see a screencap, her hands look really fake and creepy.

[snake]

I kinda agree. Especially her hands and fingers. In motion they look ok cause you don't really notice them, but when you see a screencap, her hands look really fake and creepy.

I checked out a still of her, I agree with you, but I'm hoping that the cg improves on thhe show, like in clone wars.

[LH]

April's press shots look great, but there is that occasional screen grab where her eyes seem to be going in opposite directions..:tlol:

[snake]

April's press shots look great, but there is that occasional screen grab where her eyes seem to be going in opposite directions..:tlol:

On the topic of her eyes, do they seem a bit TOO shiny? In some shots, they look like anime eyes!

[LH]

On the topic of her eyes, do they seem a bit TOO shiny? In some shots, they look like anime eyes!

Like when the light hits them and they're really glossy? Yeah, I've noticed that too. Probably just an inconvenient lighting source in some scenes.

[AnarkyLantern]

Like when the light hits them and they're really glossy? Yeah, I've noticed that too. Probably just an inconvenient lighting source in some scenes.

Well, and there's this thing I heard about with Rise of the Guardians where the cgi crew would light a scene a certain way and then, at the last minute, the director would change the camera position

[DVD]

Well I just watched this, back to back with Doctor Who. I only enjoyed one of the shows, and it was not Doctor Who.
I loved the look of this one. The black and white patterns as the backgrounds was quite hypnotic, and it made the characters really stand out.
The interplay was great and I liked the team ups. The constant Baxter bad naming was cool as well.
Overall I enjoyed this quite a lot, but only sniggered once, at the 'balls..' line. That was sneaky, but amusing .

On the April thing from above, in the show, she is the spitting image of her action figure :twink:

[Venom]

Got to catch a good chunk at work Friday and really enjoyed this episode!

I always like a good ol' rivalry team-up, and this ep really executed it well. I like how Xever and Raph found a mutual respect for each other and, while neither would admit it, probably secretly liked each other where, under different circumstances they could be buds.

Mike got to team up with his "pal" Bradford again, and it's still amusing how everyone still gets Baxter's name wrong!

The April/Splinter scenes were nice and held some poignancy; I enjoyed the close-ups on her eyes too, because they seemed to dilate and slightly flick as she looked at Splinter. Nice little touch of "realism". :)

[Avatar Yuffie]

I'm kinda glad Baxter Stockman broke away from Shedder XD

Shedder was getting to many connections. XD

And Baxter's better off as a freelancer for his health anyways. Look what happened to his 2K3 counterpart for example... took him three seasons and his body parts to realize working with the Shredder is a bum deal for him.

[Shark_Blade]

Think he'll loose his body parts too in this series? Or turned into a fly?

Maybe they'll do something different.

[Zulithe]

I'd like for him to stay human... not everyone needs to be a mutant or alien. I'd be okay with them mutating him in a later season though.

[AT-Man]

Yup, I'd like to have a human Baxter for a change.

[Sleepingseeker]

Looooved this episode. I pretty much feel as Cubed does. It was awesome having all of that at once, done well, without it feeling crammed. So perfect. I really really like the relationship that is developing between Splinter & April. She's my favorite version of April ever no question. I had feels when Splinter called her my child. It's a great thing that he can sort of be her father while hers is in captivity, and that she can sorta fill that daughter void he has. Heart warming stuff. :)

But anyway the action was really cool too. As I had said in my thoughts about other fight-centric episodes, it looks like it would make for an awesome set of levels/boss battles in a video game.

I really hope they plan to explore Raph & Fishfaces little thing too, I found that very interesting. A+
Loved the episode as well. The development of Leo's skills is interesting to see as he pulls ahead of his brothers. But the fact that Raph felt the final sneak attack over Leo was so interesting, too.

The scenes between April and Splinter are really great. The fights scenes have been animated so fluidly and almost beautiful to me. I want to watch them over in slow motion, lol

I think giving us a bit of character development on the 'bad guys' was wonderful. Even with Raph kind of identifying with Xever. I loved getting to see how he grew into becoming a criminal. Not just, yeah, I'm bad and I love it and have no layers to my personality. Could they be setting up more for Karai's character in this sense? I wonder what's to become of Baxter now that he turned on his associates! What will Shredder do to him, especially since he failed so miserably? It can't be good.

Can't wait for more!

[Route77]

Definitely one of my favorite episodes to date. I loved that the writers gave us a look into Xever's backstory, and seeing him open up to Raph about his upbringing was my favorite part of the episode. It showed a depth to his character that I'm hoping will be further explored in future episodes since he's my favorite Nick TMNT villain.
Splinter's budding relationship with April was also a nice touch, it was cool to see just the two of them having an almost father/daughter moment together. All in all some great character development in this episode to balance out the action, and I thought the voice acting was especially good across the board in this ep. too.

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[CyberCubed]

Him, I feel like those generic metallic robots in the episode could have been replaced by the Roadkill Rodney's. I am dying to see them make a return in this series.

[the_minimizer]

I laughed when I saw the new episode today. All the turtles got Baxter's name wrong. One of them said "Dexter Specman". Another called him Gexter. It was hysterical. Baxter can't get any respect from the turtles.

[shihe]

Loved the episode as well, as usual. Cool backstory for Xever.

Not so bad weapon of choice for April (part of me wanted her to keep the yoyo, lol but of course that's highly unconventional) hope she uses two fans.

The Xever & Raph alliance was pretty cool.


My favorite line in the whole episode was Mikey going someting like "Jerk, Turtle, Jerk, Jerk, Turtle... No wait... too many jerks..."

The Splinter training sessions, loved them as well. :D

Never before have I felt so attatched to Splinter. This show has the best possible version of Splinter ever imo.



And what's awesome, regarding the plot, is so many different sides now. There's:
-Turtles
-Foot Clan
-Baxter
-The Kraang
-Rogue monsters

City's in chaos! :D Can't wait for Casey Jones to show up... But I'm going to be very sad about Donnie "losing" April to Casey. :( Hope they make him very likeable. But I'm getting ahead of myself.

Love how the story is unfolding.. I need to know why the Kraang needs April!!!

[Powder]

Him, I feel like those generic metallic robots in the episode could have been replaced by the Roadkill Rodney's. I am dying to see them make a return in this series.

Yeah, I feel you on that. Any of the OT/video game robots would've been cool. I was honestly expecting some. I was bummed seeing him in essentially the same robot suit, I was hoping that he was gonna unleash something like Chrome Dome, Mother Mouser, or something else new and exciting that was series exclusive. I guess it was for the best though considering how fast they trashed the thing.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, I feel you on that. Any of the OT/video game robots would've been cool. I was honestly expecting some. I was bummed seeing him in essentially the same robot suit, I was hoping that he was gonna unleash something like Chrome Dome, Mother Mouser, or something else new and exciting that was series exclusive. I guess it was for the best though considering how fast they trashed the thing.

Yeah, I was somewhat predicting a "Giant Mouser" at the end of the maze too, especially since he said he had a new monster waiting at the end. Also since IDW brought back the giant Mouser too even if only for like 2 pages...

[sdp]

I thought it was a rather mediocre episodes with some bits of background/story sprinkled accross. And another weak Baxter episode, really wish he were different in this series.

[Donatello19]

On the topic of her eyes, do they seem a bit TOO shiny? In some shots, they look like anime eyes!

Like when the light hits them and they're really glossy? Yeah, I've noticed that too. Probably just an inconvenient lighting source in some scenes.

The show is supposed to have somewhat of an influence from anime.

[CyberCubed]

I thought it was a rather mediocre episodes with some bits of background/story sprinkled accross. And another weak Baxter episode, really wish he were different in this series.

I thought the first Baxter episode was fairly average but the Mouser episode and this one were great.

Not sure what you guys expect them to do with Baxter. He can either be a cowering lackey like he was in the original toon before he was mutated, or he can be arrogant and get his limbs chomped off like in 4kids.

Baxter's personality here is somewhat closer to the original toons but with a bit more backbone to strike out on his own.

[Coola Yagami]

And what's awesome, regarding the plot, is so many different sides now. There's:
-Turtles
-Foot Clan
-Baxter
-The Kraang
-Rogue monsters



I like that too. I always liked a show/comic like Batman or Spider-Man where you never know what villain is gonna pop up next... and not be a show where the heroes have this one main villain and have to face said villain every comic/issue. One thing that bugged me about the 90's Spider-Man cartoon was that Kingpin was in almost every episode and almost always behind everything. I know he kinda is like that in the comics, but in the comcs I bought, Spidey was fighting someone new every time, and they had nothing to do with Kingpin.

[Luzmagica]

Loved the episode as well. The development of Leo's skills is interesting to see as he pulls ahead of his brothers. But the fact that Raph felt the final sneak attack over Leo was so interesting, too.

The scenes between April and Splinter are really great.....

I think giving us a bit of character development on the 'bad guys' was wonderful. Even with Raph kind of identifying with Xever. I loved getting to see how he grew into becoming a criminal. Not just, yeah, I'm bad and I love it and have no layers to my personality. Could they be setting up more for Karai's character in this sense? I wonder what's to become of Baxter now that he turned on his associates! What will Shredder do to him, especially since he failed so miserably? It can't be good.

Can't wait for more!

Loved the episode as well, as usual. Cool backstory for Xever.

Not so bad weapon of choice for April (part of me wanted her to keep the yoyo, lol but of course that's highly unconventional) hope she uses two fans.


My favorite line in the whole episode was Mikey going someting like "Jerk, Turtle, Jerk, Jerk, Turtle... No wait... too many jerks..."



Im agree both comments!! just adding a few things....

It will be awesome to see Karai vs. April, katana against fans! :twink::tlol::trazz:

I voted at poll for DOOM!!! but also I think my prefer was: "someting like "Jerk, Turtle, Jerk, Jerk, Turtle... No wait... too many jerks..."
:lol::lol::lol:

Did anyone else remeber a bit about horror/sci-fi movies like "Cube" and a Stephen King movie with the espheres with blades at laberinth!??? (dont remember title now! ) :tcool:

[zkarlette]

For me the highlight of this EP was the interaction between fishface and Raph.

[Yorae]

I laughed out loud when Leo yelled "BALLS!" (...of doom)

Very enjoyable episode. I loved the cooperation between the Turtles and Dogpound and Fishface. I wish Mikey and Dogpound interacted more though.

I'll have to say that this Baxter is my least favorite Baxter ever. He does nothing for me. Guess I'm kinda comparing him to Baxter from the 2k3 show. I really liked that Baxter...

[marcelangelo]

hey dudes and dudettes!...I wanted to add that in the motion comic book flashback of xevers life we see an item in a shops window when he was a little boy and the prize tag starts with an R, that is the short version for 'reais' the brazilian currency...so at last I think we have the assuredness that xever truly is a brazilian man/fish mutant;)...thats where he got his capueira chops from, too....
I love that fact!and i love these comic book scenes, they're one of my highlights whenever they accour....
loved the episode, curious about the next...

[Darth Knuckles]

I enjoyed this episode quite a bit. My favorite part was the Raph and Fishface cooperation in battle. And at the end, Raph still knowing that Fishface would stab him in the back at any time again. Very cool ending. I also really liked the April and Splinter interactions. Splinter really bonding with her through his sadness from losing his own daughter was interesting. And now April will be sporting a fan as a weapon! I also wonder what will become of Baxter now. Is he just going to go off rogue somewhere now since he'd be punished if he went back to Shredder? That's my guess because Dogpound and Fishface would have something to give him if he showed his face again.

[shinefra]

I must admit the tunnel of Doom was impressive, very creative.

Baxter is a Genius :teek:

[Route77]

I was at Toys R Us yesterday, and sure enough the TMNT shelves had been picked clean of Fishface figures after this EP.

..

[Mona_Lisa]

What gave you that impression? I thought the maze background was made to disorientate the characters so they didn't know where they were. They flat out said they were lost and walking in circles, hence the point.

I really wish people wouldn't claim the animators are lazy or "ran out of time" because of a style choice.

I agree with you, the black and white was to disorent the turtles (and badguys) in the maze of DOOM!:D

[demonsweat]

Did anyone else remeber a bit about horror/sci-fi movies like "Cube" and a Stephen King movie with the espheres with blades at laberinth!??? (dont remember title now! ) :tcool:

I totally thought of the Cube movies when watching this episode. :D

The Stephen King movie you're thinking of is The Langoliers, I think (featuring the great thespian, Bronson Pinchot). The spheres reminded me of the sentinels from the Phantasm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-J_UG07Hs0#t=01m45s) movies, too.

[CyberCubed]

I hope we get to see some Chris Bradford backstory like we got for Xever here. Maybe Bradford regretting that he can't go back to his human life or something.

[Jephael]

Awesome episode! I loved every second of it! One thing that kinda bugged me though was how April apparantly has never seen that photo of Splinter as a human with his wife and daughter up until now, even though he was obviously looking at it in the Rat King episode. Either "I, Monster" was meant to take place after this or there's been a major lack of communication in the writers' room.

[BabyTurtles]

Awesome episode! I loved every second of it! One thing that kinda bugged me though was how April apparantly has never seen that photo of Splinter as a human with his wife and daughter up until now, even though he was obviously looking at it in the Rat King episode. Either "I, Monster" was meant to take place after this or there's been a major lack of communication in the writers' room.

well she might have seen the picture in I monster but never asked who it was XD

[Jephael]

well she might have seen the picture in I monster but never asked who it was XD

That doesn't make a lick of sense. If she'd seen it before, shouldn't see realized that it was Hamato Yoshi, Teng Shen and Miwa right off the bat? I mean come on she's been friends with Splinter and the Turtles for some time now. You'd think they told her as much as they could about their backstory.

[TheCanadiandrome]

this was a great episode, i loved it from beginnin to end! lots of lol moments

[BabyTurtles]

That doesn't make a lick of sense. If she'd seen it before, shouldn't see realized that it was Hamato Yoshi, Teng Shen and Miwa right off the bat? I mean come on she's been friends with Splinter and the Turtles for some time now. You'd think they told her as much as they could about their backstory.

idk I have friends and I've never asked them about their pictures XD

and Splinter is a rat...so maybe she didn't know who it was...she could have thought.."Friends?....Uncle.......Dad..." XD

[Gwydion]

Considering April is standing right there when Splinter holds the photo and says "Everything I had is gone - my wife, my daughter, my clan, even my humanity." in I, Monster, it is really odd. She'd have to be pretty dense to somehow miss that - or just have a really bad memory, I guess.

Honestly I'd forgotten she'd been there for that scene. Originally her not knowing who was in the photo seemed odd to me, but now it just feels downright silly! Especially since the same writer is credited for both episodes. o_O

[Luzmagica]

I totally thought of the Cube movies when watching this episode. :D

The Stephen King movie you're thinking of is The Langoliers, I think (featuring the great thespian, Bronson Pinchot). The spheres reminded me of the sentinels from the Phantasm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-J_UG07Hs0#t=01m45s) movies, too.

Wow!! Yea!!!! Thanks so much demonsweat!!!! I didnt know about last reference (sentinels from the Phantasm)...and yes!! It was Langoliers the name I was trying to remeber!!! :tcool: :tlol::tlol:

You rules!!!!! :twink: Thanks !!!! :D:D

[the_minimizer]

I totally thought of the Cube movies when watching this episode. :D

The Stephen King movie you're thinking of is The Langoliers, I think (featuring the great thespian, Bronson Pinchot). The spheres reminded me of the sentinels from the Phantasm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-J_UG07Hs0#t=01m45s) movies, too.

I thought of Phantasm, too. I was going to tell Don Coscarelli about it. What was the name of the new episode we're talking about?

[ObiWanFan4life]

Me i sorta thought about Resident Evil or Mad Mod from teen titans

[Coola Yagami]

so new episode this weekend or what....?

[STORMSHADOW__210]

^ Hope so, as much as i love this show, im still waiting for that shifting gears "Holy S--t" episode.

[LH]

so new episode this weekend or what....?

Doesn't "Enemy of my Enemy" air Friday at 7:00 PM?

[shihe]

I hope in later episodes the Turtles get to explore outside NYC.

Maybe if they made a season where Splinter, the Turtles, and April travel to Japan to face the Foot Clain in the heart of their territory... THAT would be bad@zz.

Or something of Battle Nexus proportions. Or the Triceraton asteroid... (Not saying they should necessarily rehash past plots by the book) I dunno, something to get them off the city every once and a while.

Or at least a forced Winter experiment like in the Nes TMNT:Arcade Game.

[CyberCubed]

^ Hope so, as much as i love this show, im still waiting for that shifting gears "Holy S--t" episode.

Personally I thought, "The Gauntlet" was that episode.

[Donatello19]

so new episode this weekend or what....?

Yep, "Enemy of my Enemy" will premiere this Friday at 7:00 PM.

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, a new episode is this Friday and the Turtles and the Foot are working together. According to my summary on my DirecTV guide, it says that Karai proposes an alliance.

[blue_angel99]

Yep, "Enemy of my Enemy" will premiere this Friday at 7:00 PM.

sweet!!
Can't wait to see

[MrTMNT2012]

PREVIEW :

http://vimeo.com/63821881

SO AWESOME! thx for the clip. Can't wait for this Episode :)

Something tells me this will be the best Episode so far!

[Sumac]

Sort of fillerish episode, which for some reason contanied Xever's backstory.
It's good, but nothing special.