A Closer Look And What To Expect In 'Batman: Arkham Origins'

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As reported just a few days ago,gamers were treated with a wonderful surprise that the next installment in the famed Batman series will be a prequel to the 2009 smash hit Batman: Arkham Asylum and will be hitting stores later this year on Oct 25, 2013. With the blessing of series developer Rocksteady, newcomer developer to the series WB Montreal has taken the helm for the next entry Batman: Arkham Origins. No need to worry ,I would say it's a pretty safe bet that Rocksteady is hard at work on the sequel to the 10 out of 10 2011 masterpiece Batman: Arkham City for the next generation of consoles.In the meantime,feel free to check out a in depth look at the upcoming game that will still be using the same blueprint that the first two installments have already set for gamers to expect!

My first thoughts...as excited as I am to have another batman game to sink my teeth into,I fear that even with the "blessing" that Rocksteady has given WB Montreal, that the open world might be a bit bland ala the ps3 Amazing Spiderman?

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Source:GameInformer.com (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/04/10/the-world-of-batman-arkham-origins.aspx?PostPageIndex=2)

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Batman: Arkham City set high standards for a big exploration-focused open world filled with content to uncover. Warner Bros. Games Montreal aims to embrace the model established in that earlier Rocksteady game, but plans to dramatically expand the world to have Batman explore the full breadth of Gotham City. Along with a dramatic choice for the setting in time, the game world of Arkham Origins promises to offer a mix of familiar and surprisingly new elements.

One of the big features that sets Arkham Origins apart is its midwinter Christmas setting. The game picks up on a cold and forbidding Christmas Eve night in Gotham City. Batman is not new to his crime-fighting job as the game begins, but neither is he the grizzled veteran we’ll see in later Arkham games. Up until this point in his career, he’s been fighting mostly normal criminals – mob goons and heist artists – but tonight brings a new and far more dangerous series of threats – super-villains bent on the Dark Knight’s destruction.

The Christmas Eve setting is a purposeful juxtaposition of a normally joyful time cast in the light of the grim world of Gotham City. “It’s a really cool, happy, warm thing and then a really sad thing mixed together to make this ironic image,” explains creative director Eric Holmes. “It’s a beautiful thing in an ugly place. It adds an ironic humor to things without breaking the seriousness of the theme, which is really fun for us.” Scattered throughout the game world in the demo we saw, Christmas lights shine a pale light onto shadowy alleys. Decorative Santa statues take on a frightening tone when placed side by side with gothic gargoyles. Plazas are decked out for holiday celebrations, but they lay vacant thanks to a combination of intense cold, an awful winter storm, and escalating gang activity. Christmas in Gotham is not the stuff of happy dreams.

As Batman faces his new foes in this not-so-cheerful winter wonderland, he’ll have a far bigger world to explore than in previous Arkham games, but the entire setting is thematically tied together. The team calls Gotham City a parachronistic location – a place that seems to be dislodged from time and out of place. Many of the structures seem old and stylized, but the technology available in the world feels modern day or futuristic. “In terms of the timeline, there are aspects of 1930s all over. Like various incarnations of Batman, it’s very consistently in a 1930s style world. But Batman’s technology is clearly from the future. Batman has stuff that we don’t have today.”


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In this early stage of the Arkham timeline, the section of the city that will one day become a walled Arkham prison is still connected to the rest of the city. Called Old Gotham, players once again get to explore the area, but will soon realize that it is dramatically different from how it appeared in Arkham City. Old Gotham is dominated by lower buildings and slums, but many areas will seem entirely new. For instance, Jezebel Plaza, recognizable for its retrofit of prison bars, containment facilities, and gang hideouts in Arkham City, is still a premier shopping district dominated by a massive Christmas tree. Elsewhere, the great flood that drowned so many buildings has not yet occurred, and Batman has the opportunity to explore the dock areas that still exist. Docked just outside of the city limits, players find The Final Offer. This massive ship is the headquarters for the Penguin and his minions, as they illicitly engage in an arms trade with the many parties in Gotham City who are interested in their wares. The off-land HQ provides a no-man’s land of laws, and they ply their trade without interference from the police. Batman isn’t so careful of jurisdictions, and players can expect extended gameplay sequences aboard the hulking ship. Inside, visitors find a full casino and theater in a large passenger section, as well as less public arms storage decks.

While the landmass that will become Arkham City is painted in a new light, it represents less than half of the overall outdoor city area players explore in Arkham Origins. Cross the bridge from Old Gotham, and Batman enters New Gotham. This island of towering skyscrapers, mazes of pipes, and soaring catwalks is an entirely new gameplay space. New Gotham offers dramatically expanded opportunities for gliding navigation, as you climb to the high rooftops and float down through the snowy streets. Though the buildings are high and the streets might be wider, WB Montreal is focused on trying to make New Gotham just as dense with gameplay as any area players encountered in Arkham City. “There are a lot more opportunities to position enemies above and below you because there’s more than one level,” says senior producer Ben Mattes. “In Old Gotham we’ve got the ground and we’ve got rooftops. Now we’ve got ground, we’ve got medium rooftops, we’ve got tall rooftops. So it expands the playground along the vertical axis. We’re not interested in making a big sprawling city where you run for blocks before you find someone to fight. We want to maintain that density where around every corner over every rooftop there’s always something interesting both visually and gameplay-wise.”


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With this new, larger space to explore, many players may enjoy the lengthy glides and grapnel trips involved in traversing the distance. For those looking for a quicker route, Arkham Origins introduces a fast travel system using Batman’s signature Batwing plane. He can remotely summon the aircraft to carry him up and away and closer to his current objective in an instant. However, players have to work for the privilege. All around Gotham, Batman finds jamming towers held by enemy forces. Echoing popular systems in games like Assassin’s Creed and Far Cry, by taking over those towers, he gains access to a number of collectibles in the area and the ability to call in the Batwing to whisk him away.

It’s a mistake to characterize the world of Arkham Origins as a dramatic departure from previous entries. Rather, WB Montreal has wisely maintained many of the visual aesthetics and city characteristics that made the earlier Arkham games so iconic. Instead of reshaping something that doesn’t need to be changed, the Origins team has instead focused on painting that brilliantly realized Gotham City in a new light for a different moment in time. In addition, their ambitions suggest a game world that is around twice as large as the last game in the series. Together, the game world we witnessed in our demo has us itching to dive in for ourselves, and finally spread the shadow of the Dark Knight’s cape across all of Gotham.


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[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

I'm looking forward to this.
I'm hoping if WB Montreal are actually following Rocksteady's blueprint then we shouldn't get a bland experience as seen in the Amazing Spider-Man video you posted.

[Candy Kappa]

Arkham Origins... Oh how I wish we'd get more of the origin of Arkham Alsylum, like the tidbits we got in the first game based of the Arkham Serious house on serious earth comic.

Explore more of Amadeus Arkham, his relation to his mother, the bat and the building of the asylum.

[TheCanadiandrome]

there's a game coming for Vita and 3DS and this one for current Gen systems correct?

[Peanut]

Arkham City is a 10 out of 10? Get a f*cking grip.

I was so excited by the news that the next game in the series was a campy Batman set in the silver age, but instead we get what seems like a AC:Brotherhood/Revelations style filler game by some b-team. How could anyone want more of these games after City? Let alone one set in the exact same environments we've seen for two games?

Hopefully Rocksteady is either still making the silver age Batman, or has instead moved away from the franchise all-together. The less gritty Batman we get over the next decade, the happier I'll be.

[Brodie]

In revisiting City with the GOTY edition to play the Robin/Nightwing stuff, I made the mistake of going back into the game proper.

It just reminded me of how much I ****ing disliked Arkham City.

Like Peanut, I was excited about a weird, off the wall Silver Age Batman game. This game is going to be some goddamn mishmash of Rocksteady B-Team, going for the ultra grit tone of the last one.

Arkham is not that interesting. Worth one game? For sure. Two? A city? And then some? No.

[Slade]

I can agree Arkham isn't that interesting and disagree that I did not want to play Silver Age Batman at all, but I still love te games. So yeah I'm pretty excited for this.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

Arkham City is a 10 out of 10? Get a f*cking grip.

I was so excited by the news that the next game in the series was a campy Batman set in the silver age, but instead we get what seems like a AC:Brotherhood/Revelations style filler game by some b-team. How could anyone want more of these games after City? Let alone one set in the exact same environments we've seen for two games?

Hopefully Rocksteady is either still making the silver age Batman, or has instead moved away from the franchise all-together. The less gritty Batman we get over the next decade, the happier I'll be.

umm ya a 10 out of 10 lol

I respect everyones opinion and i dont think i need to "get a grip" just because you didnt like it.Fact is it DID get a 10 out of 10 on its way to winning several game of the year awards.I thought it was well voice acted,the graphics were amazing and the story was great with a all star dc cast.

http://www.gameinformer.com/games/batman_arkham_city/b/ps3/archive/2011/10/14/the-best-licensed-video-game-ever-made.aspx

^ uh ya,looks like the rest of the world needs to "get a grip" as well:lol:

[The Stryker]

Game reviewers also like garbage like Braid.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

there's a game coming for Vita and 3DS and this one for current Gen systems correct?

Correct my friend,there will be a Black Gate handheld game released as well on the 25th of Oct :D

[STORMSHADOW__210]

Well actually being a critic myself,i can tell you we would't of got the job in the first place if we didn't have a good feel for which ever genre we are reviewing.Opinions are always respected...or at least SHOULD be,but sadly there is always a percent that will never agree.Thats what makes the USA great.I have a buddy who HATES Nolan batman trilogy,even when in reality ,they are the greatest batman films ever made to the majority of the world.:D

[Cure]

Well actually being a critic myself,i can tell you we would't of got the job in the first place if we didn't have a good feel for which ever genre we are reviewing.Opinions are always respected...or at least SHOULD be,but sadly there is always a percent that will never agree.Thats what makes the USA great.I have a buddy who HATES Nolan batman trilogy,even when in reality ,they are the greatest batman films ever made to the majority of the world.:D

Oh, Jesus. I'd hate to read any of your reviews.

As for Batman, I can't wait for more detective mode. I sure looooooved that.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

^ fair enough. Hey i love Big Trouble in Little China which got massacred by critics.If your referring to my Nolans Batman comments, it sounds like you would not only "hate to read my reviews ",but the majority of all critics world wide who reviewed Nolans Batman as well.Lol

[Cure]

^ fair enough. Hey i love Big Trouble in Little China which got massacred by critics.If your referring to my Nolans Batman comments, it sounds like you would not only "hate to read my reviews ",but the majority of all critics world wide who reviewed Nolans Batman as well.Lol

I'm referring to the way you type.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

^Im sorry,i didn't know i was in a class room doing a test for a passing grade? Fact is,im using a touch screen on my phone.Maybe you should spend less time being a negative heckling jerk and more time actually contributing to the actuall topic at hand.

Who is the Admin here? I got to say,i have never seen a site with such a consistent and negative group of people.Is this the image you all want to give to the world of the Technodrome community? I think i may just have discussions in the Nick tmnt thread and leave it at that from now on.

[Brodie]

Hey, a lot has changed in the reviewing world. Things like punctuation and capital letters? THIS AIN'T YOUR DAD'S NINTENDO POWER!

[The Stryker]

^Im sorry,i didn't know i was in a class room doing a test for a passing grade? Fact is,im using a touch screen on my phone.Maybe you should spend less time being a negative heckling jerk and more time actually contributing to the actuall topic at hand.

Who is the Admin here? I got to say,i have never seen a site with such a consistent and negative group of people.Is this the image you all want to give to the world of the Technodrome community? I think i may just have discussions in the Nick tmnt thread and leave it at that from now on.

Have fun with that! We'll always have the memories.

Look up the Fuel song about memories and you'll get it.

[Cure]

^Im sorry,i didn't know i was in a class room doing a test for a passing grade? Fact is,im using a touch screen on my phone.Maybe you should spend less time being a negative heckling jerk and more time actually contributing to the actuall topic at hand.


If you can take the time to use a caret (^), you can hit the space bar after punctuation.

[Brodie]

I'm waiting for him to "correct" your spelling on 'caret,' and point out ...pot, kettle, blah blah.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

Hey, a lot has changed in the reviewing world. Things like punctuation and capital letters? THIS AIN'T YOUR DAD'S NINTENDO POWER!

If you can take the time to use a caret (^), you can hit the space bar after punctuation.


Have fun with that! We'll always have the memories.

Look up the Fuel song about memories and you'll get it.

:lol::lol:

Ok,so let me get this straight,so heres a new member (me),who took the time to post some news with pics(not some half ass link like many just post)to share some exciting news on OUR hobby to contribute to this site and have a good discussion with fellow tmnt fans...........

AND instead ,you all would rather heckle me because im using a touch screen phone to post and ALL you got to contribute is "trying" to start some **** by being a bunch of negative assholes by "burning" me because...OMG I DIDN'T use correct spacing and use capital letters?? LMFAO....

Good one guys,yall really showed me.Y'ALL are a embarassment to this site than many refer to as a great place to talk shop with good people that we all share a interest in.

Look up the definition of the word TROLL and you will GET IT.F--kin losers.Now if you will excuse me,i have a juicy booty coming over to cook a nice steak dinner.Have fun enjoying the rest of your evening dipping your eggo waffles in your gallon of syrup as you wink at your Battle Star Galactica poster on your moms basement wall.:)

[Cure]

Now if you will excuse me,i have a juicy booty coming over to cook a nice steak dinner.Have fun enjoying the rest of your evening dipping your eggo waffles in your gallon of syrup as you wink at your Battle Star Galactica poster on your moms basement wall.:)

There it is! The quintessential "i have hot sex and you don't and you live in your mom's basement" line that everyone throws out. Perfect. We haven't had one of those in a while. Good times.

[The Stryker]

Look up the definition of the word TROLL and you will GET IT.F--kin losers.Now if you will excuse me,i have a juicy booty coming over to cook a nice steak dinner.Have fun enjoying the rest of your evening dipping your eggo waffles in your gallon of syrup as you wink at your Battle Star Galactica poster on your moms basement wall.:)

Oh wow. Good one.

Juicy Booty you say? Video game critics get all the tail!

[Peanut]

Now if you will excuse me,i have a juicy booty coming over to cook a nice steak dinner.Have fun enjoying the rest of your evening dipping your eggo waffles in your gallon of syrup as you wink at your Battle Star Galactica poster on your moms basement wall.:)

HAHAHAHA! Did you fall out of the new millennium with that sh*t, kid?

It's like a walking stereotype of the Internet Message Board Guy. Here are "facts" to back up my bullsh*t that rely on absolutely nothing aside from the opinion of others! Here's my bullsh*t lie about how I work in this field so my opinion actually matters. Finally, I'm tired of talking about this nerd sh*t, so I'm going to go have pretend sex with myself and you're all basement dwellers!

[Raven]

Anyways, getting back on subject. I'm really excited for this game, at first hearing it was a prequel and not by rocksteady had me very off set to this game. But the more I hear about it the more I am excited by it, plus Black Mask is one of my favorite villains, who is rarely portrayed the way I would like to see him.

So heres hoping for a good game, I like the idea of roaming the streets as Batman!

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[STORMSHADOW__210]

Hey, the stereotypical "basement "comment is pretty well earned by you fine people who have only shown interest in being a bunch of negative dicks.As for what i do for a living, i could give 3 f--ks what some stranger believes to be true or not.Last i checked, y'all are not my daddy, and your not paying any of my bills.

And as i enjoy the rest of my evening, i'll keep in mind that "peanut,and cube " are all cooler than me.

The funny think...well sad thing actually is you all enjoy this bulls--t than (oh no) actually having an adult conversation with a shared interest. Good job.You are all a shining first impression of the Technodrome community. Bravo.

[Peanut]

Go f*ck yourself. I don't even know who you are, so how the f*ck do you know what I enjoy doing? You want to argue with Cure that's fine, but don't lump me into it because you don't like my opinion, or because you're upset you made yourself look like an ass.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

Hahahaha well f--k you too.I wish we were having this discussion at bar in person. I swear to God i would bitch slap the **** out of you. Doesn't matter if i liked your opinion or not.Point is,i originally respected your opinion "peanut".Seems to me and im sure many views reading this that YOU made a ASS out of your self all on your own when YOU didn't like that i posted as a f--kin NEWS announcement for members to have a good discussion for what we share a interest in when i said AC was a 10 out of 10 ...which is a fact btw since it DID get a 10 and even has a...wait for it...A GAME OF THE YEAR EDITION ...U f--Kin moron LMAO what a idiot.I got go,but i'll read this thread later before bed just for one more laugh.

[Cure]

I wish we were having this discussion at bar in person. I swear to God i would bitch slap the **** out of you.

The other typical response!


Seems to me and im sure many views reading this that YOU made a ASS out of your self all on your own when YOU didn't like that i posted as a f--kin NEWS announcement

No, no. It was you.

[Candy Kappa]

I've yet to play City, and barely dabbled in Asylum, but if they can fix Detective mode to be less jarring or just remove that feature completely or reinvent it, and give Batman more crowd control options, I'm game.

.I have a buddy who HATES Nolan batman trilogy,even when in reality ,they are the greatest batman films ever made to the majority of the world.:D

opinions at best, I'd say the Dark Knight returns adaptation is way better then the Nolan trilogy as a whole.

[愛]

Are we done making fun of the new guy because he's not "in the circle?" Is it really about the video games anymore? :(

And to contribute to the thread, I hated City, so I'd rather they go in another direction with the Batman games.

[Turo602]

Where are people getting the notion that the next game was going to be campy? Inspired from the silver age? Sure, but I don't recall reading anything regarding camp. Just that he'd be teaming with various Justice Leaguers.

[Brodie]

Maybe campy isnt the right word, but anything in a lighter tone than the Asylum games could come off as "campy."

And, if you look at the Silver Age stuff, a large number of it is stuff like this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0FB8zEaODk0/UABZPIhkOzI/AAAAAAAAAJs/kKsfPE9BVPA/s1600/Batman-162-00.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2rssv.jpg

I think most of us are hoping for this more ridiculous stuff, as opposed to them stating Silver Age and just having it be more of the same.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

I'm not a fan of the silver age personally.I like my batman like a like my woman.Dark and gritty.Wait...i meant dark and ehh you know what I mean.

For those who love campy silver age batman,I would recommend the Wii Batman the Brave and the Bold,1960s Adam West Batman tv series,and last but not least the Joel Shumacher Batman and Robin.Thats a good strong does of campy batman that if you dont blow your brains out,you should be satisfied by the end.

[Turo602]

Oh, I get it. Well since Arkham Origins is a prequel, maybe that isn't the right way to go. I'm sure if the Justice League ever makes it to the series, we could be looking forward to something lighter in tone and less serious.

Personally, I prefer dark and serious for Batman, fits my personality a bit more. But I could get down with something more ridiculous. After all, I did enjoy The Batman.

[The Stryker]

I love the Silver Age Bats. It's just completely stupid and fun.

Dark and SUPER SERIOUS Batman has been done to death and after Arkham City and Dark Knight Rises being up their own asses with grit and 'dark' story-telling I think it's time for something different. ANYTHING.

Brave and The Bold would be amazing jump-off point. If only for it's version of Aquaman and the Neon talking super street bat luge.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

I love the Silver Age Bats. It's just completely stupid and fun.

Dark and SUPER SERIOUS Batman has been done to death and after Arkham City and Dark Knight Rises being up their own asses with grit and 'dark' story-telling I think it's time for something different. ANYTHING.

Brave and The Bold would be amazing jump-off point. If only for it's version of Aquaman and the Neon talking super street bat luge.

I just saw batman brave and bold on netflix,my inner core nerd bat fan made me "que" it lol,but have yet to watch it.From channel surfing ,just came across a bit too Shumacher for me.

Here is a pretty interesting GameInformer read on how Rocksteady is still involved in the production,and how WB Montreal is trying to honor the franchise.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/04/12/why-warner-bros-montreal-is-developing-batman-arkham-origins.aspx

As for the prequel concept....IDK...I think the way that arkham city ended,they might of been left scracthing their head as far as what direction to go in.So frankly,for a swan song current gen game,i will gladly take it while we wait a couple of years for a next gen Rocksteady sequel.:D

[TheCanadiandrome]

Correct my friend,there will be a Black Gate handheld game released as well on the 25th of Oct :D

cool i thought i'd read that right

[STORMSHADOW__210]

What also worries me, is with all open world games, typically the bigger the city,the less attention to detail (not counting exceptions like far cry 3,GTA ,Sleeping Dogs,ect) and i honeslty dont want a open world like the gotham in DC Universe(which was still cool in its own way) or the NYC in Amazing Spiderman.

[Candy Kappa]

I'd love more Brave and the Bold video games, that show is amazing and truly shows how versatile the Batman character can be.

In both camp and grit.

[Raven]

New screen shots released, giving us a better look at batmans suit.

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[Ecto Jedi]

You jaded bastards. Arkham Asylum and City were amazing.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

When it was announced that developer Warner Bros. Games Montreal would be steering the ship for Batman Arkham Origins to buy some time for the award winning developer Rocksteady to work on a true next generation sequel to Batman Arkham City,many among the gaming world were more than concerned to say the least. That being said with news that not only would Arkahm Origins be using the same game engine as well have having Rocksteady holding Warner Bros. Games Montreals hand, many bat fans have relaxed.In fact,I for one am quite excited to have another Batman game to sink my teeth into during the final year of the current console generation.GameInformer recently had the oppurtunity to sit down with art director Jeremy Price and the rest of the crew at Warner Bros. Games Montreal to share some insight on how they are approaching the prequel.Enjoy the interview below!

http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab90/STORMSHADOW__210/Batman-Arkham-Origins_New-Gotham_zpsd7371275.jpg

Source:GameInformer.com (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/05/01/the-dark-art-of-batman-arkham-origins.aspx)

While art director Jeremy Price and the rest of the team at Warner Bros. Games Montreal are looking to the previous Arkham titles for inspiration, they hope to leave their own mark with a couple of key differences. Since this is a prequel, Batman is a mysterious force in the streets of Gotham. Even the cops aren't sure if he is a myth or supernatural. To emphasize this mystery and fear surrounding the character, the team is planning on amping up their use of silhouettes and film noir-esque low-key lighting to make him a more imposing figure. The developers are also taking advantage of the holiday setting for the game by creating Christmas decorations that are unique to the haunted world of Gotham City.

Watch the video below to learn more about how the team is changing the look of Batman and how the Christmas setting will change the way you experience the game.


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[愛]

I merged the thread you made with this one. Please do not make separate threads when there is already a relevant topic to post in.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

Well thats fine.Every site is different.I will respect this sites one thread rule.Personally i think its a bit much to have one big thread with endless pages and pages to find any different news on a subject.If thats the case,why even bother having seperate threads to begin with,why not just a "All video games" thread.That will be nice and neat.:ohwell:

[The Stryker]

I hardly think an interview about the art style is thread worthy anyway.

Who wants a million threads about tiny details?

[愛]

Well thats fine.Every site is different.I will respect this sites one thread rule.Personally i think its a bit much to have one big thread with endless pages and pages to find any different news on a subject.If thats the case,why even bother having seperate threads to begin with,why not just a "All video games" thread.That will be nice and neat.:ohwell:

I was just looking for an "okay." :ohwell:

[STORMSHADOW__210]

hahahahah u got man ,lol "okay":D ,Im still new here anyway,not tryin to rock the boat here,im a admin on several sites and thats just how we do it.That way people can just click and watch say a clone wars season 6 new footage trailer and know waht they are clicking and to discuss,rather than just blindly going though pages and pages of a universal clone wars thread.its cool.Different folks,different strokes.

[Cure]

Goddamn, man, get over it.

[Peanut]

You jaded bastards. Arkham Asylum and City were amazing.

They're both rife with issues, but Asylum was at least a comprehensive design decision, warts and all. City is a mess. I don't care what anyone says. The "open world" is so poorly designed it's incredible.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

y:Goddamn, man, get over it.

Hey genius, what part of "its cool" don't you understand? I'm not trying to be funny but are you "special " or did you go to school in the small bus?

[STORMSHADOW__210]

They're both rife with issues, but Asylum was at least a comprehensive design decision, warts and all. City is a mess. I don't care what anyone says. The "open world" is so poorly designed it's incredible.

Im curious, can you be a bit more specific? The game won all kinds of awards.I loved it.

[Peanut]

Awards, especially in this sh*t hole of an industry, mean f*ck all, so let's not even bring that junk up.

I haven't played City since maybe the second of third day it was out, which is when I beat it, so I can't be too specific on my reasons without doing research into it again and that's simply not worth my time, so I'll fall back on the things that come to mind.

Traversal in the city isn't fun. It's boring and pointless. There's no reason for it to exist outside of padding. It's there to hide uninteresting trinkets, host uninspired and boring side-quests and artificially pad the playtime by making you run back and forth (sometimes to the exact same places...repeatedly) between the better designed areas of the game, which all still suffer from the same issues Asylum did, including the constant need to use detective vision again. The combat is still good, but it does a horrendous job of giving you reasons to use 3/4 of it, as the basic moves you learn are more than enough to deal with any encounter with ease. The stealth hardly changed and the same two or three methods of dealing with thugs from Asylum are still the most effective. And speaking of the thugs, the repeating dialogue in the city and during encounters is god awful. It got to the point where I would mute the game every time I had to slog back through the city.

The plot is also a plodding and terrible mess of nonsense. If you aren't a fan of Batman, which I'm not, the game does very little to draw you in.

Just a few of the reasons off the top of my head. Feel free to disagree, but I feel like I've made my points. It should also be noted that if a game doesn't have a very very specific something, usually a tone or some sense of "heart", then I find it terribly hard to give it a pass on its various issues, so I'm not even saying my opinion is entirely valid in all ways. Look no further than my love of Tenchu Z for proof that my taste in games is slightly warped, but at least unlike most people, I can admit to liking absolute sh*t and be OK with that.

[The Stryker]

As a Batman fan I completely agree with the story in City being bad. Hated it.

[Shreddhead]

Batman Arkham Origins Teaser Trailer Batman vs Deathstroke
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[Cure]

How exciting.

[Candy Kappa]

the pre-render is perrdy as ever

[Shreddhead]

Looks like Deathstroke will be a playable character! And Conroy is confirmed to be voicing Batman again :D

http://www.screwattack.com/news/deathstroke-will-be-playable-arkham-origins-kevin-conroy-returns-batman

[Ninjinister]

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[Cure]

And Conroy is confirmed to be voicing Batman again :D


Oh, boy. Just when I thought something new would come out of this.

[animal]

Personally I CAN NOT wait :)

[BabyTurtles]

well I backed tracked the pages....and there's alot of mean comments :(

why can't people just be kind? (it's so easy to be mean on the internet)

anyway :D I'm looking forward to the game!! I liked both Batman games~ and I'm sure I'll love this one too ^_^

[CyberCubed]

So Conroy is NOT voicing Batman, but the actor who played Ezio in Assassin's Creed is the new Batman.

However Kevin Conroy is still in this game, so perhaps he is narrating the flashback from the present day?

[LivingMutagen]

So Conroy is NOT voicing Batman, but the actor who played Ezio in Assassin's Creed is the new Batman.

However Kevin Conroy is still in this game, so perhaps he is narrating the flashback from the present day?

So Roger Craig Smith voices Chris Redfield, Sonic the Hedgehog, Ezio, The Pulverizer and now Batman. What an amazing guy!

[Peanut]

His body of work isn't exactly sterling.

[Shreddhead]

So Conroy is NOT voicing Batman, but the actor who played Ezio in Assassin's Creed is the new Batman.

However Kevin Conroy is still in this game, so perhaps he is narrating the flashback from the present day?

Some confusion about whats going on here. You're right, Roger Craig Smith will be voicing batman in Arkham Origins with Troy Baker as the Joker.


But Conroy is NOT going to be in Arkham Origins. He had confirmed that he was going to be in the new Arkham game, but it turns out he was refering to the NEXT game in the series, not Origins. So much batman!

http://i2.wp.com/batman-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/ConroyArkhamTweet.jpg?resize=640%2C569

[Slade]

Aww hell, I was all pumped for Conroy, oh well, trailer still looked damn good.

[NinjaMan]

So can't wait for this game!

http://www.vg247.com/2013/10/03/batman-arkham-origins-season-pass-will-have-a-lot-of-value/

Voghel told IGN that the costumes announced so far are just the beginning.

“The costume DLC is going to be available with the Season Pass and it’s basically a bonus right?” he said.

“There’s going to be a lot of value in that Season Pass. One of the items we can’t talk about yet. We’ll just wait for the gamers to really see what the entire package contains. It’s going to be a big deal.”

The season pass will cost $20, and its announced content includes:

New Millennium Skins Pack: Contains five Batman skins and one for Robin
Infinite Earths Skins Pack: Contains five Batman skins and one for Robin
Gotham by Gaslight Batman: This skin is only available through the Season Pass
Brightest Day Batman: This skin is only available through the Season Pass
Initiation: Play as Bruce Wayne
An unannounced story expansion for the game

Batman: Arkham Origins releases worldwide on October 25 for for PC, PlayStation 3, Wii U and Xbox 360.

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[CyberCubed]

Season Pass for character skins? Boy I feel sorry for the people who fall for that.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I'm so excited for this game! :D Is anyone excited to play the Adam West Batman?!

[NinjaMan]

I'm so excited for this game! :D Is anyone excited to play the Adam West Batman?!

I'll give that suit a run in the challenge maps.

[Leo656]

Season Pass for character skins? Boy I feel sorry for the people who fall for that.

Usually it saves gamers who are interested in getting them a fair amount of money over the cost of getting them individually. Plus there's other stuff in the Season Pass besides skins, as clearly stated. What's the problem?

[NinjaMan]

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[NinjaMan]

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[Slade]

Usually it saves gamers who are interested in getting them a fair amount of money over the cost of getting them individually. Plus there's other stuff in the Season Pass besides skins, as clearly stated. What's the problem?

Exactly. I will for sure be getting the season pass with this one, loving all the skins so far. Can't wait. Three days.

[Shark_Blade]

Got the game already for PS3 in my hands. :cool:

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It's pretty similar to the past Arkham games. With loads of added new things.

Where the hecks the Joker? Seems Black Mask is running the game at the moment, masterminding a group of assassins to kill Batman. I like that it focuses on other villain for a change. :)

Here's my playthrough:

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[Peanut]

Heard this game is kinda middling. Wondering if it's just people finally realizing the fact these games have issues, or if it's another case of the "rushed sequel by a B team" in full effect.

[AquaParade]

Heard this game is kinda middling. Wondering if it's just people finally realizing the fact these games have issues, or if it's another case of the "rushed sequel by a B team" in full effect.

I'm a fan of the Arkham series, but I wasn't planning on picking this up...until today. The mixed reaction that "Origins" is getting, compared to past Arkham games, piqued my interest.

I really enjoyed Bioshock 2 and "DmC", so apparently these developer-switching - "cash-in-sequels" are my kinda games!

[Shark_Blade]

If it's not broken don't fix it. And they're right, they keep all the good things and add some new ones. This is similar to Pokemon. Same formula but add new things to it in every new games. And that franchise has been on going strong for years, even now.

Anyway, back to the game. From what I play of this new Batman, it's all good. No complains from me so far. :cool:

I'm enjoying the story too. Some characters like Vicki Vale in Arkham City is explored more in Arkham Origins - which is nice. She was very brief in AC.

[MikeandRaph87]

I love the visuals on this game. Great detail and sceneary in general! Copperhead was just brought back in the comics so its odd seeing a female version exclusive to the game. Game exclusive villians are nothing new (Tin Su of Batman along with Tora and Shogun of TMNT) but it would have been nice to see Killer Moth have a chance at an upgrade. Electrocutioner, the version we see in Batman#331(1981)? I was surprised to see him in the first ever Batman video game and am here as well. Definitely going to keep an open mind here.

I would love to see a game based around the Silver/Bronze Age!

[NinjaMan]

Another winner for me. Love this game! Especially the boss fights. Been a great week of gaming for me with this and Lego Marvel.

[raph27]

Well, well, well. Look at all this on-topic Arkham Origins friendly chat in these last pages.:roll:
I played it at a friends house. He was at the part where Batman is in Wonderland and it's really odd but cool. Then you get to fight bunnies. :lol: has anyone tried the 3DS/Vita version?

[CyberCubed]

The game is getting 7's in most review sites calling it the worst of the trilogy this far.

I think they're just complaining about it being more of the same. I haven't played it yet but I loved the last two games so this is a sure buy.

[Seeks]

It's very rare I feel compelled to do this, but I have just finished the game and all I can say is ignore the critics.

Arkham Origins is absolutely fantastic and easily sits in second place of the Arkham series IMO. Asylum is still number one for me, although Origins comes very close, and City takes third place. However, all three of them are incredible.

I think the critics are giving the game an unfair bashing. The major complaints appear to be the fact that the game "is more of the same". In response all I can say is this; If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Not to mention the fact that this sort of stuff is acceptable given it's a prequel. The critics seem to be forgetting that and are instead just treating it as the third game in a series.

Rocksteady set up the formula and made it popular. Warner Bros. Montreal have improved upon it. The complaints with Asylum and City were that the boss battles were a big disappointment on the whole. Origins, on the other hand, has the best by far. Each is unique, tailored to the villain and present a reasonable challenge. The combat is also more refined than ever, which arguably it shouldn't, given it's a prequel, but it isn't a major problem at all. I haven't delved into side missions and other collectables properly yet, but there's definitely more of an incentive to do so as there are some great rewards attached.

Arkham Origins is not only a great way of setting up the origins of Bats' encounter with some of his major villains, but it's a great way of setting up the origins of the Arkham series. I hope WB Montreal are proud of their efforts and I hope Rocksteady are proud to see what has been done with the series that they have started. I'd love to see WBM do more games in the gap between Origins and Asylum, with Rocksteady tackling things post-City.

Definitely recommended.

[Leo656]

I haven't played it yet but I'd bet a lot of it has to do with the new developers being an easy target. A lot of people had themselves in Bash-mode the second they announced someone else would be making it.

Nobody should ever make a decision on anything based solely on critics and reviews. I love reading them, but just for entertainment. Critics over-sell and under-sell everything. Part of it is because they are literally exposed to everything, which can make a person jaded after a while. Someone's having a bad day, they're playing a game that's OK but not perfect, maybe a little too similar to the last game in a series - "This sucks, it's just like the last one!" and a game that could be a solid 8 gets a 7. Happens all the time.

Not saying that's definitely what happened in this case, just saying it does happen. That's why I like when magazines and websites do retro reviews or re-reviews; many times, they admit they were way too harsh the first time around for whatever reason. But I expect this one will be good. If the worst thing anyone can say is "It's more of the same" then I really can't find any fault with that. "If it ain't broke," as you said. :)

I'll probably pick it up in a few weeks after I'm done with the bulk of WWE 2K14.

[Seeks]

Indeed.

There's many contradictions going on with the critics on this particular game. When the game was first announced, and that it would be tackled with a different developer, critics initial thoughts were "I hope they don't change too much". Fast forward to now and the game is being criticised for being "more of the same".

You're perfectly right about that people shouldn't solely listen to reviews, but unfortunately it's what a lot of people tend to do.

As I said in my initial post, Rocksteady created the formula and made it popular. Warner Bros. Montreal have merely built upon that and for the good, I'd say.

[CyberCubed]

I still want a game where you can drive around the Batmobile through the streets GTA style. Until they give us a fully-realized open world Gotham like that...there's still room for improvement.

[Shark_Blade]

I still want a game where you can drive around the Batmobile through the streets GTA style. Until they give us a fully-realized open world Gotham like that...there's still room for improvement.

They already did that.

Batman & Robin. PS1.

Go check that out.

[Candy Kappa]

They already did that.

Batman & Robin. PS1.

Go check that out.

Not really, but close enough.