Official Episode Discussion #23: "Pulverizer Returns" - NOW with clips!

[Machias Banshee]

Alrighty, time for a lil Gary Stu/Mutant Mayhem/Weapon Switching action!

Watch Shredder nearly neuter DogPound! (http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/tmnt-122-shredder-rage-clip.html)

Watch the boys trade off weapons just like the FCBD Comic! (http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/tmnt-122-weapon-switch-clip.html)

If I could just get this to embed correctly...

Okay, So Shredder's sick of the sub-par results with DogPound, and he's getting desperate for some worthy fighters for the clan. Bradford can't possibly just airdrop a bunch of battle-ready foot soldiers. Shredder's still got Karai's pet Kraang, and he's getting some despicable ideas running through his head. We could either end up with a batallion of Season one mutants coming back for the big brawl, or this could be a whole new slew of Robotic foot soldiers a la the Old Toon.

And somewhere, in the dark alleys of the City, our plump little warrior... The Pulverizer. He's working out... he's running roads, bounding stairs - pulling a Rocky, complete with montage of screaming anklebiters on his heels. He's building himself to be harder, better, faster, stronger... heck, we've got Kanye West going on here...

So in this episode, the three groups are going to collide - violently, probably. Could we see the Pulverizer pull off a genuine Tosh.O Web Redemption? Or is he going to get his butt handed to him again? Or worse, get himself mutated into something terrible? Non-lead human characters have an awful batting average when it comes to surviving more than one episode. We may have to start a Red Shirt list at this rate...

WILL SHREDDER GET HIS KILLER ARMY?!
WILL PULVERIZER SURVIVE TO THE END STILL INTACT AND HUMAN?!
HOW MANY TIMES WILL RAPH HIT HIMSELF IN THE HEAD BEFORE HE GETS A CONCUSSION?!

Stay Tuned!!!

[Machias Banshee]

Well, we found out what happened to him... poll coming up!

[snake]

Well, we found out what happened to him... poll coming up!

Mutagen man! And make sure you add, " Oh look, a coin!" to the poll:D.

This episode was great, they fooled us with the pulverizers mutation, and the fighting in this episode was amazing, I love episodes with the foot as the main enemy, hopefully they become bigger in season 2. I found myself laughing at pulverizer, being funnier then his first episode.
And need I mention mutagen man?
8.0/10

[TheMasterTurtle]

So this is interesting...

I am surprised they mutated him however I think it's cool we got a glimpse of what I assume will be Mutagen Man

[NinjaMan]

Pulverizer is Mutagenman. Knew he wouldn't be Newtrailzer. And Shredder was trying to create an army of mutants. So I wonder if he ends up creating Newtrailzer?

[LH]

Whoa... just.. woah...

Mutagen Man looks truly horrifying! I feel bad for Pulverizer.. He may have been a doofus that messed everything up.. But now he's a pile of organs in yellow sludge. Interesting that the container he's in looks reminiscent of his old body. I can imagine Donnie will add limbs to it soon.

Also.. Coins!!! *mario noise* :tlol:

Pulverizer is Mutagenman. Knew he wouldn't be Newtrailzer. And Shredder was trying to create an army of mutants. So I wonder if he ends up creating Newtrailzer?

Possibly.. That would explain all the weapons.

It looks like Shredder and that Kraang will be working closer together from now on...

[snake]

Whoa... just.. woah...

Mutagen Man looks truly horrifying! I feel bad for Pulverizer.. He may have been a doofus that messed everything up.. But now he's a pile of organs in yellow sludge. Interesting that the container he's in looks reminiscent of his old body. I can imagine Donie will add limbs to it soon.

Also.. Coins!!! *mario noise* :tlol:

Yeah, the organs were pretty heavy for a kids show, the whole transformation was.

[Donatello19]

An extremely disappointing episode for me....I just really didn't enjoy any of it. Timothy's mutation.....was just stupid. The scene of him getting mutated was really creepy and dark, and I was disappointed to see him turn into some weird blob thing instead of the Newtralizer. It was cool to see some more of the Foot and the Dragon Chopper though. So all in all, nothing special, and in my opinion, not worth the wait. I'm sick of waiting through these episodes expecting something big, only for Shredder to say his plans at THE END, and then not even carry them out in the next episode. And what the heck was up with the descriptions for this episode? It said the turtles had to rely on Timothy to defeat Shredder's newly formed army of mutants. WHAT ARMY OF MUTANTS? It's sad to say but this episode kind of sucked. I'd rather watch Turtle Temper than this episode...

EDIT: After reading some of the posts above, I realize that Timothy is probably going to become Mutagen Man. That's cool I guess, but not enough to make it a great episode.

[NiNi]

Man... the episode was good, but near the last bit of the episode, it was really hard to watch for me. Almost nightmare fuel-ish. -shudders-

[NinjaMan]

Whoa... just.. woah...

Mutagen Man looks truly horrifying! I feel bad for Pulverizer.. He may have been a doofus that messed everything up.. But now he's a pile of organs in yellow sludge. Interesting that the container he's in looks reminiscent of his old body. I can imagine Donie will add limbs to it soon.

Also.. Coins!!! *mario noise* :tlol:



Possibly.. That would explain all the weapons.

It looks like Shredder and that Kraang will be working closer together from now on...

Yeah I felt bad for him but Donnie warned him so many times. And Donnie had some good fight scenes. I'm leaning towards Shredder and Kraang creating Newtrailzer. And the Shredder and Kraang alliance is almost like the OT now.

[snake]

I'm surprised most people found the transformation creepy, sure it was kind of disturbing, but my five year old brother didn't seem to mind it. But he was expecting the newtrailizer to appear.

[Coola Yagami]

I knew Newtralizer looked too bad-ass to have originally have been Pulverizer. You don't just get a whole new personality from mutating.

But wow. Mutagen Man was worse. I feel horribley sorry for the guy. He totally did not deserve to be some weird blob monster with his internal organs floating around. I know he was warned and such, but c'mon, all you see are mutant turtles, dogs and fish monsters. You're kinda expecting to become some kinda kick-ass mutant animal, and not a glob thing. Unless they do like the 80's show where he can turn into anyone, it's really gonna suck for him. He can't even talk. The whole mutation scene was like out of a horror movie.

Pulverizer never touched any kind of animal either, so I do wonder if that had anything to do with it.

[OrokuYoshiFilms]

Glad to finally see the Dragon Chopper in an episode. Product placement all around was great.....lol. Love how Donnie really kicks butt in this episode...

....the weapon switch thing was my absolute favorite though. I do it with my figures all the time

....add "Timothy is jacked up!!" to the poll! XD


Pulverizer's mutation was great though. It really made me feel sad in a way....all the crying and the "IT HURTS!!!" stuff......great stuff.

[NinjaMan]

I'm surprised most people found the transformation creepy, sure it was kind of disturbing, but my five year old brother didn't seem to mind it. But he was expecting the newtrailizer to appear.

Didn't bother my 4 year old either. My 4 year old is more concerned with where Leatherhead is lol. My wife thought he was nasty though.

[Magical_Guy_Alex]

Darn....from the looks of it, it seems like Pulverizer didn't mutate into the Newtralizer at all. Instead, he could very well become Mutagen Man. It doesn't make sense though. He was next to Dogpound, Fishface, AND all 4 turtles at the same time. How does he mutate into.....that?

Oh well, excellent episode, as always. Pulverizer always did get a good chuckle or two out of me.

[LH]

My 4 year old is more concerned with where Leatherhead is lol.

Aww..:tsad:

[TurtleTitan97]

:teek:Well, I did not see Pulverizer's mutation being that. I do agree that his mutation scene was pretty dark. This episode was alright.

Also, are we sure Tim is Mutagen Man? I thought he wouldn't appear until season 2?

[pannoni1]

This is actually episode #22, though I don't see any episode plotholes with this one, since there weren't any new characters introduced in this episode (barring the Pulverizer's Mutation). To me my favorite part of the episode was how Raph said that anything is a weapon, given the theme about how Splinter had the Turtles switching weapons (great idea as this has never been done before), and then later eliminating all of their weapons to show that no weapons can show that you're not equipped, and wrong weapons have the wrong chemistry to getting the job done efficiently. With this episode, it looks like the Shredder/Krang bond is now complete with the Foot stealing various mutagen. As far as the Pulverizer/Timothy deciding to mutate, it was his choice and I feel that since the mutation even took his voice with him, it may have been a bad choice except for scaring the enemies away. A number of video game references in this episode (easy mode, the NES coin sound, the Game Boy power on sound, and even 8-bit styled bumpers around the commercial breaks. And the time bomb while trying to escape from a warehouse is always a classic way for an episode's climax, though the clock should have been set at three and not two minutes since that's how long the scene actually took place. It's also probably going to be the only time that Rob Paulsen voiced a Nick Turtle holding sais!

Overall: 8/10

[snake]

Didn't bother my 4 year old either. My 4 year old is more concerned with where Leatherhead is lol. My wife thought he was nasty though.

Same here, he asks me if leatherheads okay on a daily basis :lol: then he goes back to drawing dogpound.

[Kevin G]

Yep, it's Mutagen Man alright. Am I the only one who actually feels bad for Timothy ? I mean grant it, he wanted to turn into a mutant, but I mean what a way to go. When he saw himself in the mirror and he rubbed his tentacle on his face, I felt sorry for him. Pulverizer just wanted to help in his own goofy/klutzy way.

I wonder what April's reaction is going to be when sees him. I was surprised she wasn't in this episode being that she now has to live with the Turtles and Splinter to avoid The Kraang.

[oldmanwinters]

"Timothy got JACKED UP!"

Well said, Mikey. Well said, indeed.

[NinjaMan]

Darn....from the looks of it, it seems like Pulverizer didn't mutate into the Newtralizer at all. Instead, he could very well become Mutagen Man. It doesn't make sense though. He was next to Dogpound, Fishface, AND all 4 turtles at the same time. How does he mutate into.....that?

Oh well, excellent episode, as always. Pulverizer always did get a good chuckle or two out of me.

Well the Kraang said the mutagen is unpredictable in this dimension. But I wonder if them being mutants already had anything to do with it.

[Coola Yagami]

An extremely disappointing episode for me....I just really didn't enjoy any of it. Timothy's mutation.....was just stupid. The scene of him getting mutated was really creepy and dark, and I was disappointed to see him turn into some weird blob thing instead of the Newtralizer.

True, but do you really wanna see Newtralizer as a doofus that messes everything up? That would be like the OT Slash, a bad-ass design turned goofy and stupid. His personality wouldn't change with the mutation....

I'm kinda glad they jumped the gun there and will hopefully have a more bad-ass idea for the Newtralizer whenever he does appear.

[DonatelloNinja82]

I'm surprised most people found the transformation creepy, sure it was kind of disturbing, but my five year old brother didn't seem to mind it. But he was expecting the newtrailizer to appear.

Yah, my boys weren't phased by it at all, and they are 9, 7, and 4. I just kept saying "Awww poor Timothy!" I totally think he's going to become Mutagen Man.

[NinjaMan]

Same here, he asks me if leatherheads okay on a daily basis :lol: then he goes back to drawing dogpound.

LOL awesome! Seems like the big guy is hit with the little ones.

Yep, it's Mutagen Man alright. Am I the only one who actually feels bad for Timothy ? I mean grant it, he wanted to turn into a mutant, but I mean what a way to go. When he saw himself in the mirror and he rubbed his tentacle on his face, I felt sorry for him. Pulverizer just wanted to help in his own goofy/klutzy way.

I wonder what April's reaction is going to be when sees him. I was surprised she wasn't in this episode being that she now has to live with the Turtles and Splinter to avoid The Kraang.

Yeah I want to see April's reaction as well.

[LH]

Same here, he asks me if leatherheads okay on a daily basis :lol: then he goes back to drawing dogpound.

Really? That's cool. :tlol:

[Donatello19]

Where is April anyway? They made such a big deal about her living with the turtles and then they don't even show her once...not even a cameo!

[TurtleMaster4]

That episode was terrible, maybe now that the Pulverizer is now Mutant Man (I think) he won't be as annoying!

[turtletoons81]

timothy's mutation was unsettling and i felt very sorry for timothy anyways the episode was exellent and i was surprised this was written by jeremy shipp who worked on the pulverizer and the whole army mutants thing wasn't in the episode but i might think that's going to end up on the season finale.

[snake]

:teek:Well, I did not see Pulverizer's mutation being that. I do agree that his mutation scene was pretty dark. This episode was alright.

Also, are we sure Tim is Mutagen Man? I thought he wouldn't appear until season 2?

Well, technically, mutagen man didn't appear, just the mutagen, he needs legs and arms.

[LivingMutagen]

:teek:Well, I did not see Pulverizer's mutation being that. I do agree that his mutation scene was pretty dark. This episode was alright.

Also, are we sure Tim is Mutagen Man? I thought he wouldn't appear until season 2?

It was said that Mutagen Man will appear at the end of season 1 and play a big role in season 2 or something

[Coola Yagami]

Where is April anyway? They made such a big deal about her living with the turtles and then they don't even show her once...not even a cameo!

Yeah, the show is kinda sloppy that way. Was Karai also napping the whole time? I can excuse Dogpound and Fishface watching over the Foot and Purple Dragons, but doesn't Karai live with Shredder?

Also still not sure Shredder will work with The Kraang the same way as the OT. It might mean the Foot will be working with The Kraang, as in all of them, not just that one guy. People gotta stop stretching for things to resemble the old cartoon.

[pannoni1]

Where is April anyway? They made such a big deal about her living with the turtles and then they don't even show her once...not even a cameo!

She probably was sleeping in the Turtles' bedroom as the episode took place well after midnight as shown on the Tphone, and still was confused about dropping out of school.

[NinjaMan]

It was said that Mutagen Man will appear at the end of season 1 and play a big role in season 2 or something

Yup can't wait to see him in action.

[Donatello19]

I don't understand why a lot of you guys thought this episode was great. It didn't deliver anything it was supposed to, and practically nothing happened aside from Timothy's mutation.

[DonatelloNinja82]

Really? That's cool. :tlol:

Yah my kids draw TMNT all the time...my cubical at work is decorated with them bwahahahaha!

[LH]

It was said that Mutagen Man will appear at the end of season 1 and play a big role in season 2 or something

I'm thinking over the next few episodes we will hear of Donnie working on arms and legs for his containment unit...

Yah my kids draw TMNT all the time...my cubical at work is decorated with them bwahahahaha!

Mutant army! :tlol:

[snake]

Really? That's cool. :tlol:

Yeah, I should post some of his amazing fanart :twink:

[NinjaMan]

I'm thinking over the next few episodes we will hear of Donnie working on arms and legs for his containment unit...



Mutant army! :tlol:

Yeah I'm leaning in that direction.

[NinjaMan]

Yah my kids draw TMNT all the time...my cubical at work is decorated with them bwahahahaha!

Good stuff!:)

[LH]

Yeah, I should post some of his amazing fanart :twink:

Yeah! :tgrin:

Also... Pulverizer never took off his costume... When does he wash that thing? :tconfuse:

[Coola Yagami]

The ep was mostly about the Turtles dealing with fighting with different weapons... and then no weapons. Oh, and that the Pulverizer was going to be in it. So the ep basically delivered. Although early in the episode, I almost thought Shredder was hinting on making robot Foot Soldiers.

[zaktheneutrino]

I liked seeing the Dragon Choppers and that scene where the turtles were chasing them with the music playing in the background was almost movie-like. I enjoy how this show can go from goofy to serious in a matter of seconds. I was on board for Timothy being mutated because, really, there wasn't anything left for him after this episode in my opinion. His Pulverizer gimmick would have gotten stale. Not the best episode but I found it entertaining for the most part!

[Machias Banshee]

This is actually episode #22

The reason this is posted as ep 23 is because the next episode was supposed to be Parasitica, but they decided to swap airing dates. Not sure why, though... *shrug*


The second I saw the Foot choppers, my thought was, "I see an OC Choppers project coming in the near future..."

Felt bad for Timothy... it looked painful. :( Having him in a container in Don's lab is going to be disturbing, not to mention his disappearance is bound to raise some heads up on the ground level.

[LH]

The reason this is posted as ep 23 is because the next episode was supposed to be Parasitica, but they decided to swap airing dates. Not sure why, though... *shrug*

So I guess that means Timothy will magically disappear from any lair shots in the next ep?

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

Donatello. Donatello Donatello Donatello. Great character moments for him this episode.

What happened to Pulverizer was sad, but inevitable. I had hoped we'd see him get better as a fighter before this mutation, but alas.

"Coins!" LOL

Mikey's imitation of Leo was fantastic.

I don't quite believe that the Turtles have NEVER bothered to familiarize themselves each other's weapons. It seems a bit far-fetched. In all their years of training, Splinter never said, "Hey! Change it up, once in a while."?

I like the added drama that it brought, though. It made the final fight entertaining.

[DonatelloNinja82]

Really? That's cool. :tlol:

So I guess that means Timothy will magically disappear from any lair shots in the next ep?

They will probably keep him in Don's lab. And man I agree! Donnie had some amazing battle scenes in this one! So much for being on the A- team! ;)

[Donatello19]

So I guess that means Timothy will magically disappear from any lair shots in the next ep?

Seeing as how they do the same thing with April, a main character, we probably wouldn't of seen him anyway...

[LH]

Seeing as how they do the same thing with April, a main character, we probably wouldn't of seen him anyway...

That's a good point... Guess she's taking all this pretty hard.

[NinjaPug]

Some early thoughts:

- interesting that they decided to turn him into Mutagen Man. I was Team Newtralizer for his character but started to change mind about halfway thru the episode when they were foreshadowing MM (the comic book, them discussing complications)

- I like how Donnie is very protective and feels responsible for Timothy. It's tough for me to sympathize with what happened to him because he is so annoying. I've never liked the character so don't really care what happens to him.

- glad I was wrong about the 'pet' Kraang. It was cool to see the formation of their alliance.

- I hate how easily the Turtles defeat DogPound and FishFace now

- I'm glad they're still keeping up appearances as far as staking out TCRI.

[Storm Eagle]

Yep, it's Mutagen Man alright. Am I the only one who actually feels bad for Timothy? I mean grant it, he wanted to turn into a mutant, but I mean what a way to go. When he saw himself in the mirror and he rubbed his tentacle on his face, I felt sorry for him. Pulverizer just wanted to help in his own goofy/klutzy way.

I wonder what April's reaction is going to be when sees him. I was surprised she wasn't in this episode being that she now has to live with the Turtles and Splinter to avoid The Kraang.

I feel bad for him too. At the same time though, I'm mad at him for not listening to the turtles. Now look at him.

To be honest, I kind of feel bad for Snakeweed, Spiderbites, Fishface, and Dogpound for their mutations too. All of them were once human, and it's bad enough that they were mutated. Timothy, however, is young. I hope Donatello really can find a way to restore Timothy, and maybe the other four can get restored somehow as well.

[Coola Yagami]

They will probably keep him in Don's lab. And man I agree! Donnie had some amazing battle scenes in this one! So much for being on the A- team! ;)

They probably will. They keep doing that sort of thing. If the ep has nothing to with April, she isn't anywhere to be seen, even if she's supposed to be living there. Same goes with Karai. If it's not a Karai episode, she's somehow missing even if she lives there. I assume if the next episode has nothing to do with mutagen or whatever... Mutagen Man will be nowhere to be seen either.

[Kevin G]

Where is April anyway? They made such a big deal about her living with the turtles and then they don't even show her once...not even a cameo!

I actually was asking the same question. Maybe she sneakily went to Irma's house and told her she's going to be gone for a couple of days... think the scene in Casablanca with Rick (Humphrey Bogart) and llsa (Ingrid Bergman).

[DonatelloNinja82]

They probably will. They keep doing that sort of thing. If the ep has nothing to with April, she isn't anywhere to be seen, even if she's supposed to be living there. Same goes with Karai. If it's not a Karai episode, she's somehow missing even if she lives there. I assume if the next episode has nothing to do with mutagen or whatever... Mutagen Man will be nowhere to be seen either.

Probably so. They do that a lot on this show, I agree.

[NinjaMan]

It might be due to the CGI budget. Maybe they can't have too many characters running around?

[Donatello19]

I'd personally like to see more of Shredder's lair. There has to be a few more rooms, right?

[LH]

I actually was asking the same question. Maybe she sneakily went to Irma's house and told her she's going to be gone for a couple of days... think the scene in Casablanca with Rick (Humphrey Bogart) and llsa (Ingrid Bergman).

What i'd really like to know is what her aunt thinks of all this...IF she knows of all this.

[Donatello19]

It might be due to the CGI budget. Maybe they can't have too many characters running around?

Having them in the background, or just having them sitting in the lair is not having them "running around", and seeing as how they fit a lot of people on the street of New York in Karai's Vendetta and I, Monster, the whole "too many characters" thing obviously isn't the case.

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

I'd personally like to see more of Shredder's lair. There has to be a few more rooms, right?

Yeah, I imagine it gets kinda drafty in there. Even the Shredhead needs a warm bed.

Unless he's so hardcore that he sleeps on the floor... :P

[NinjaPug]

I'd personally like to see more of Shredder's lair. There has to be a few more rooms, right?

I've been wanting this too. We're used to Shredder having the Technodrome or his huge skyscraper as his lairs in the past. Now we're stuck with one room of what looks like an abandoned museum from the outside.

[Cure]

Really cool episode. The fight scenes were awesome.

[LH]

Did anybody else cringe when the turtles threw their "weapons" at Timothy? I was like "Guys!! You'll puncture his organs!!" :teek:

[MrTMNT2012]

Amazing Episode :). HUGE Improvement over last weeks lackluster "Karai's Vendetta"!

The Episode had everything I love about this show and more. The Fight scenes were great, humor was on point and the reveal at the end of the Episode was perfect. I'm really glad they went with this direction and it really makes the show stand out in terms of the villains since Timothy had one of the darkest origins the show has seen so far (The 2D Flashback sequence helps each of these characters stand out and the fact that they already had an Episode devoted to them before they mutated really helps flesh out these characters, and Mutagen Man was no exception.)

Overall, Perfect introduction to a new Villain and a great Episode with lots of memorable scenes. (8.9/10) 'Pulverizer Returns' :D

[DonatelloNinja82]

What i'd really like to know is what her aunt thinks of all this...IF she knows of all this.

Yah, I was thinking that when it was said she is going to live with them. You'd think that the police would be out looking for her since she has just vanished. Missing person reports and all.

[snake]

Really? That's cool. :tlol:

Yeah, I imagine it gets kinda drafty in there. Even the Shredhead needs a warm bed.

Unless he's so hardcore that he sleeps on the floor... :P

That would be painful with all that armor :teek:

[Magical_Guy_Alex]

Well the Kraang said the mutagen is unpredictable in this dimension. But I wonder if them being mutants already had anything to do with it.

Hmm...you do have a point. All the mutations so far were from animals/things/etc. that already weren't mutated or otherwise were animals that were never mutated before. Ie. Shredder's dog, that fish from the shop, a bunch of weeds in a desert, etc. So could that mean that being near something that has already mutated while being mutated will have no real effect on the mutation?

[DonatelloNinja82]

Hmm...you do have a point. All the mutations so far were from animals/things/etc. that already weren't mutated or otherwise were animals that were never mutated before. Ie. Shredder's dog, that fish from the shop, a bunch of weeds in a desert, etc. So could that mean that being near something that has already mutated while being mutated will have no real effect on the mutation?

I have often wondered that...what if a mutant got more mutagen on them? What would happen? That is an interesting theory posed here. Maybe because he was around so many mutants is why his mutation got so messed up. He was hyper-mutated or something.

[LH]

I have often wondered that...what if a mutant got more mutagen on them? What would happen? That is an interesting theory posed here. Maybe because he was around so many mutants is why his mutation got so messed up. He was hyper-mutated or something.

That makes sense...

I wonder if we'll ever see a double mutation on this show...Or if we just did.

[NinjaMan]

Hmm...you do have a point. All the mutations so far were from animals/things/etc. that already weren't mutated or otherwise were animals that were never mutated before. Ie. Shredder's dog, that fish from the shop, a bunch of weeds in a desert, etc. So could that mean that being near something that has already mutated while being mutated will have no real effect on the mutation?

Possible. I'd love it they ever explained how it worked. Mutagen is such a mysterious thing. I wonder if Timothy will come up with the name Mutagen Man after seeing that comic?

[snake]

Possible. I'd love it they ever explained how it worked. Mutagen is such a mysterious thing. I wonder if Timothy will come up with the name Mutagen Man after seeing that comic?

Well, the comic says " human-x-ray" not mutagen man.

[NinjaMan]

Well, the comic says " human-x-ray" not mutagen man.

True maybe Donnie will get the idea for his design from the comic?

[turtletoons81]

Hmm...you do have a point. All the mutations so far were from animals/things/etc. that already weren't mutated or otherwise were animals that were never mutated before. Ie. Shredder's dog, that fish from the shop, a bunch of weeds in a desert, etc. So could that mean that being near something that has already mutated while being mutated will have no real effect on the mutation?

that's true i went to tumblr recently and people seem to be complaining about why didn't timothy turned into the neutralizer well the kraang said the mutagen is unpredictable and if timothy did turned into neutralizer than he would have touched a newt to become one.

[Kevin G]

@Storm Eagle: I totally agree with you man.

While everyone deals with things differently, I feel personally that this was a very dark episode. As I said, I really feel bad for Timothy. Timothy was young (I'm thinking a teenager) as Storm Eagle said unlike Snake, Vic, Chris Bradford and Xever who were adults. He had his whole life ahead of him. Sure he was thickheaded, but who wasn't as a teenager ?

Look, I know he's just a cartoon character and I feel really stupid for feeling that way, but I guess the show is that so damn good that I am growing really attached to these characters. I wasn't hysterically crying, it just left a really bad impression on me. Especially when he looked in the mirror, rubbed his face with his tentacle looked like he was about to cry and like a la Frankenstein, was angry that he looks like a monster.

Also the fact that he was screaming the mutagen burns didn't help.

I wonder what his parents are going to do being that their son is missing. since he will be living in Donatello's lab.

[LH]

@Storm Eagle: I totally agree with you man.

While everyone deals with things differently, I feel personally that this was a very dark episode. As I said, I really feel bad for Timothy. Timothy was young (I'm thinking a teenager) as Storm Eagle said unlike Snake, Vic, Chris Bradford and Xever who were adults. He had his whole life ahead of him. Sure he was thickheaded, but who wasn't as a teenager ?

Look, I know he's just a cartoon character and I feel really stupid for feeling that way, but I guess the show is that so damn good that I am growing really attached to these characters. I wasn't hysterically crying, it just left a really bad impression on me. Especially when he looked in the mirror, rubbed his face with his tentacle looked like he was about to cry and like a la Frankenstein, was angry that he looks like a monster.

I wonder what his parents are going to do being that their son is missing. since he will be living in Donatello's lab.

Don't feel stupid.. These characters are so powerful that we do grow attached to them..

I hope Donnie can fix him.. Like you said, He's just a kid.. He was so excited to become "cooler" and that happened to him..

[DonatelloNinja82]

@Storm Eagle: I totally agree with you man.

While everyone deals with things differently, I feel personally that this was a very dark episode. As I said, I really feel bad for Timothy. Timothy was young (I'm thinking a teenager) as Storm Eagle said unlike Snake, Vic, Chris Bradford and Xever who were adults. He had his whole life ahead of him. Sure he was thickheaded, but who wasn't as a teenager ?

Look, I know he's just a cartoon character and I feel really stupid for feeling that way, but I guess the show is that so damn good that I am growing really attached to these characters. I wasn't hysterically crying, it just left a really bad impression on me. Especially when he looked in the mirror, rubbed his face with his tentacle looked like he was about to cry and like a la Frankenstein, was angry that he looks like a monster.

I wonder what his parents are going to do being that their son is missing. since he will be living in Donatello's lab.


Nah, dont feel stupid. Like you said, you know a show is good when you start to feel for the characters. I feel bad for Timothy too.

[NinjaMan]

@Storm Eagle: I totally agree with you man.

While everyone deals with things differently, I feel personally that this was a very dark episode. As I said, I really feel bad for Timothy. Timothy was young (I'm thinking a teenager) as Storm Eagle said unlike Snake, Vic, Chris Bradford and Xever who were adults. He had his whole life ahead of him. Sure he was thickheaded, but who wasn't as a teenager ?

Look, I know he's just a cartoon character and I feel really stupid for feeling that way, but I guess the show is that so damn good that I am growing really attached to these characters. I wasn't hysterically crying, it just left a really bad impression on me. Especially when he looked in the mirror, rubbed his face with his tentacle looked like he was about to cry and like a la Frankenstein, was angry that he looks like a monster.

I wonder what his parents are going to do being that their son is missing. since he will be living in Donatello's lab.

Don't feel stupid man. That's the sign of a well written show. I felt bad for him too even after Donnie warned him so many times.

[DonatelloNinja82]

Don't feel stupid man. That's the sign of a well written show. I felt bad for him too even after Donnie warned him so many times.

Especially at the end where Leo was saying he got what he wanted and Raph said to keep him in the lab so he wouldnt have to look at him. Cold man...lol.

[NinjaMan]

Especially at the end where Leo was saying he got what he wanted and Raph said to keep him in the lab so he wouldnt have to look at him. Cold man...lol.

LOL yeah I was like wow! Donnie was the only to show any compassion. To the others he was basically a pawn.

[LH]

Even if it's not Donnie's fault(he tried his hardest to stop him!), I can imagine that Timothy's condition is going to weigh on him from now on. Splinter said he was his responsibility after all.

[DonatelloNinja82]

LOL yeah I was like wow! Donnie was the only to show any compassion. To the others he was basically a pawn.

Yep...Donnie is empathetic there. Donnie took Splinter's words to heart about Timothy being his responsibility. It shows a lot about Don's character here. I kept getting reminded of the second movie when Raph and Keno wanted Keno to infiltrate the Foot and Splinter forbade it b/c it would be dangerous to put Keno in that situation. Yet here everyone except Donnie thought it was a great idea.

[DonatelloNinja82]

Even if it's not Donnie's fault(he tried his hardest to stop him!), I can imagine that Timothy's condition is going to weigh on him from now on. Splinter said he was his responsibility after all.

Oh I can totally see that! I think Don is going to blame himself.

[NinjaMan]

Yep...Donnie is empathetic there. Donnie took Splinter's words to heart about Timothy being his responsibility. It shows a lot about Don's character here. I kept getting reminded of the second movie when Raph and Keno wanted Keno to infiltrate the Foot and Splinter forbade it b/c it would be dangerous to put Keno in that situation. Yet here everyone except Donnie thought it was a great idea.

Yeah, that's a great comparison. Donnie has had some great character moments in this series.

[DonatelloNinja82]

Yeah, that's a great comparison. Donnie has had some great character moments in this series.

I think all the characters on this show have been developed nicely considering how it's only the first season. But, yes, Donnie has had a lot of great moments so far. This incarnation of Donnie is awesome!

[turtletoons81]

Yeah, that's a great comparison. Donnie has had some great character moments in this series.

and this show's you that the turtles aren't perfect people they go through everything from fighting mutant's,aliens who wants to open a portal to earth and an evil clan that want's splinter dead,the turtles go through lesson's through at each episode by master splinter and that's why i love this show it gives them character unlike some cartoons nowadays (not to say some are bad no they have great character development ie:adventure time for example)

[snake]

I think all the characters on this show have been developed nicely considering how it's only the first season. But, yes, Donnie has had a lot of great moments so far. This incarnation of Donnie is awesome!

I think he just became my favorite turtle :D

[the_minimizer]

I'm surprised at what happened to Timothy. It's a not so happy ending.

[Gwydion]

I thought this was a solid episode. It had some really great action scenes, and a lot of the humor was spot on. I've never been a fan of Pulverizer though, so his scenes kept me from truly loving it. But that being said, I really like what they did with him in the end. Was it tragic? Yeah, but it's also his own fault - he did it to himself after being warned multiple times not to.

Not that I think he "deserved" it, mind you. No one deserves that. But I think him being Mutagen Man in the future is a step in the right direction for his character. He learned things the hard way this episode, and I'm interested to see how this ultimately effects his personality.

One thing I did find a bit odd was just how uncaring the Turtles were at the end. They all seemed content to just leave him to be destroyed, and then when they got him back to the lair they were all "Well, he's a mutant so he's probably happy, so Donnie? Keep him in your lab so we don't have to see him." He's a KID. That just seemed... overly harsh.

[JTH]

Donnie's character comes out so much in this episode, they're making it clear that he is clearly distracted and worried about all of his friends who could be in trouble; which obviously leads to April.

If April gets captured in the finale. (2 parter or not) Watch out, cause Donnie's character will probably go all lengths to save her (If Leo tells him they need a plan, but Donnie goes by himself not adhering), which could be as much harm than good.

[Xav]

So the Pulverizer wears his turtle costume under his Foot one?
given the theme about how Splinter had the Turtles switching weapons (great idea as this has never been done before)What are you talking about? It was done in the FCBD Comic, and the 4Kids episode "What a Croc".
Although early in the episode, I almost thought Shredder was hinting on making robot Foot Soldiers.That's what I was thinking as well.
Overall, Perfect introduction to a new Villain and a great Episode with lots of memorable scenes.I don't really see Mutagen Man as a villain, he's just going to sit around in Don's lab.

[DonatelloNinja82]

I think he just became my favorite turtle :D

He's already my fave...but this just added to it!!:tgrin:

[BubblyShell22]

Pretty decent episode. I felt sorry for Timothy and what happened to him even though he really wanted it. Now he realizes what a mistake it was to do that. Loved the weapons switch and the chase scenes as well. I always thought Timothy had to be in his twenties or thirties. He doesn't really look like a teen to me. I also wonder where April was and why she wasn't at least sitting around. Kind of odd. Overall, a pretty decent ep. I thought he'd be Newtralizer, too, but apparently he's going to be Mutagen Man. He's mutation was dark and what he turned into was pretty bad, too.

Fave quotes:

Leo: Raph, if you keep breaking your toys, we can't buy you new ones.

Mikey: Whoa. It looks like we beat a video game on Easy.
Leo: If Master Splinter has taught us anything, it's that life isn't a video game.
Don: Look, coins! *Mario coin noise*

Mikey: Hey, I'm the sword guy. I get to make the decisions around here.
Leo: Having swords doesn't make you the leader.

See you next episode, guys.

[NinjaMan]

I think all the characters on this show have been developed nicely considering how it's only the first season. But, yes, Donnie has had a lot of great moments so far. This incarnation of Donnie is awesome!

Completely agree with you. I love this show!

[NinjaMan]

and this show's you that the turtles aren't perfect people they go through everything from fighting mutant's,aliens who wants to open a portal to earth and an evil clan that want's splinter dead,the turtles go through lesson's through at each episode by master splinter and that's why i love this show it gives them character unlike some cartoons nowadays (not to say some are bad no they have great character development ie:adventure time for example)

Well said.

[Sleepingseeker]

Aw, man, what a jaw-dropping episode! I am so impressed that they didn't pull their punches when it came to the Pulverizor's fate. How horrible, and yet what a powerful lesson to learn. When you get involved with stuff that's not only over your head, but actually dangerous, terrible things can happen.
Rant time: :trolleye:
My only complaint is how this series' writers depict Leo at times. That last line he said about the Pulverizer getting what he wanted rubbed me wrong. They make him too cold and arrogant and kind of a jerk sometimes. I believe that's a mischaracterization. No one likes the guy who's put in charge. And he's certainly a hard a** at times. He has to be. I think he's shown to be un-empathetic and almost cruelly cold at different points and that's unfair. I think he's more way more compassionate than they give him credit. Being the leader means having to act as the 'bad guy' at times in order to keep his family secure and out of harms way.
End of Rant! :lol: P.S. Leo's my favorite since forever and I have to step up and defend him sometimes! :twink:

Overall this show keeps getting better and better. The action in this episode! The Foot soldiers were so cool! The fight sequences! Splinter being a hard a**! Poor Donnie feeling responsible and promising him a cure! Kraang and Shredder TEAMING UP!!! Awesome. Awesome-sauce. xo

[Sleepingseeker]

@Storm Eagle: I totally agree with you man.

While everyone deals with things differently, I feel personally that this was a very dark episode. As I said, I really feel bad for Timothy. Timothy was young (I'm thinking a teenager) as Storm Eagle said unlike Snake, Vic, Chris Bradford and Xever who were adults. He had his whole life ahead of him. Sure he was thickheaded, but who wasn't as a teenager ?

Look, I know he's just a cartoon character and I feel really stupid for feeling that way, but I guess the show is that so damn good that I am growing really attached to these characters.

Also the fact that he was screaming the mutagen burns didn't help.

Yep, definitely a darker episode. Don't feel stupid at all! We get into the characters 'cuz we love the show and the stories! If you didn't feel anything what a waste of time watching this would be for you! And how boring would life be if we never 'felt' anything we were reading/watching/writing, etc. So, don't feel bad at all :)

Hmmm, but for the show, I think the writers had him 'volunteering' so happily to lesson the impact of, if instead, the Foot were forcing him to mutate which is something Shredder would have certainly done to one of his expendable men. But too scary for the younger audiences, unfortunately.

But in the end, It was still a harsh lesson for him to learn...but I am really impressed they followed through and made it not a fun or happy experience for him. Poor guy. I feel confident that Donnie will eventually save him. And yes, Donnie's character development was wonderful in this episode. Loved him. But am I the only person who was cracking up with Donnie 'finding' coins on the downed Foot soldier? I was like, Donnie's ROBBING that Foot soldier! XD I've got a darker sense of humor, maybe.

[ironman29758]

Wow... just wow.

Out of all the episodes that only had some 80 cartoon/Archie comics tone, this was the one that felt most like the 80s cartoon as well as being one of the darker episodes. I could see around the end why Pulverizer would become more of a villain at the end how most of the turtles were treating him. I honestly though the 'switch weapons/no weapons plot's was going to save for later. Now I kind of want to see them take the plot from the recent IDW Comic/Turtle prequel with Splinter dressing up, sneak attack the turtles and using different styles and an French accent to show them how much they still need to learn.

At first I thought Shredder was going to create a robotic Foot Clan army but it wasn't until I saw that comic with the 80s Mutagen Man Mikey was holding. Shredder and Kraang finally teaming up I see.

Donnie was the true hero of this episode as well as the conscious. Raph felt more witty/80s Raph except for a few scenes. Mikey pretending to be the leader and making fun of Leo got me giggling. Even though Leo didn't do alot I enjoyed him in this episode. Splinter was awesome even though we got tough Disciplinarian Master Splinter.

One of my favorite scenes when Leonardo ordered everyone to take their weapons back and when they did they all had white eyes.

I like the little rhyme thing they did with their weapons, and the life is not a video game scene. Overall it was a decent episode.6/10.

[drgon78]

Good episode though I liked the last one a lot more.

I feel sorry for Timmy, for what he became, but he is the one who never listened and it lead to his down fall.

I was annoyed that April wasn't even shown since she is supposed to be living there now. Though you could say she was training when the turtles weren't in the training area or was just avoiding them.

Still no mention of Baxter Stockmen or Karai at all.

[Storm Eagle]

@Storm Eagle: I totally agree with you man.

While everyone deals with things differently, I feel personally that this was a very dark episode. As I said, I really feel bad for Timothy. Timothy was young (I'm thinking a teenager) as Storm Eagle said unlike Snake, Vic, Chris Bradford and Xever who were adults. He had his whole life ahead of him. Sure he was thickheaded, but who wasn't as a teenager ?

Look, I know he's just a cartoon character and I feel really stupid for feeling that way, but I guess the show is that so damn good that I am growing really attached to these characters. I wasn't hysterically crying, it just left a really bad impression on me. Especially when he looked in the mirror, rubbed his face with his tentacle looked like he was about to cry and like a la Frankenstein, was angry that he looks like a monster.

Also the fact that he was screaming the mutagen burns didn't help.

I wonder what his parents are going to do being that their son is missing. since he will be living in Donatello's lab.

So we already touched upon the fact that Timothy is just a teenager, so he's obviously still living with parents. That's why I didn't want anything to happen to him. Imagine if that was you, and your parents are wondering just where the hell you are. It even made me think back to the 80s series, where there was this episode where Bebop goes home and his mother doesn't recognize him.

Like everyone else was telling you, you shouldn't feel stupid for feeling sympathy like that for a fictional character. That's probably what the writers want us to do. You should have seen me when I saw some of the CSI episodes, where one of them from the NY series involved a girl at a prep school that was killed, and a rather unpopular girl turned out to be the culprit since she thought she was losing what seemed to be her only friend to the allure of someone who's more popular. She may not have dealt with the problem in a positive fashion, but you've got to have some sort of sympathy, especially if you can relate to her somehow.

Pretty decent episode. I felt sorry for Timothy and what happened to him even though he really wanted it. Now he realizes what a mistake it was to do that. Loved the weapons switch and the chase scenes as well. I always thought Timothy had to be in his twenties or thirties. He doesn't really look like a teen to me. I also wonder where April was and why she wasn't at least sitting around. Kind of odd. Overall, a pretty decent ep. I thought he'd be Newtralizer, too, but apparently he's going to be Mutagen Man. He's mutation was dark and what he turned into was pretty bad, too.



You may nor may not put much stock into episode descriptions, but some of them for "The Pulverizer" state that Timothy is a teenager.

I was thinking it would have been helpful if Donatello explained why Dogpound and Fishface got to be the way they are. Then again, Timothy knew that he'd be mutated, but I wonder what the hell he thought he'd become.

This episode was obviously made to teach a lesson, but dang, what a way to get a point across.

[Bauer536]

Aw, man, what a jaw-dropping episode! I am so impressed that they didn't pull their punches when it came to the Pulverizor's fate. How horrible, and yet what a powerful lesson to learn. When you get involved with stuff that's not only over your head, but actually dangerous, terrible things can happen.
Rant time: :trolleye:
My only complaint is how this series' writers depict Leo at times. That last line he said about the Pulverizer getting what he wanted rubbed me wrong. They make him too cold and arrogant and kind of a jerk sometimes. I believe that's a mischaracterization. No one likes the guy who's put in charge. And he's certainly a hard a** at times. He has to be. I think he's shown to be un-empathetic and almost cruelly cold at different points and that's unfair. I think he's more way more compassionate than they give him credit. Being the leader means having to act as the 'bad guy' at times in order to keep his family secure and out of harms way.
End of Rant! :lol: P.S. Leo's my favorite since forever and I have to step up and defend him sometimes! :twink:

Overall this show keeps getting better and better. The action in this episode! The Foot soldiers were so cool! The fight sequences! Splinter being a hard a**! Poor Donnie feeling responsible and promising him a cure! Kraang and Shredder TEAMING UP!!! Awesome. Awesome-sauce. xo

Man! I can't believe I missed this! I would have loved to see Don get some more character development! Grrr!:tmad:

As for your comments - I'm not surprised you mentioned this. Obviously, Leo doesn't like Pulverizer. Also, what do you expect? He's a teenager. Some teens act like jerks now and then. It doesn't mean he's jerk forever.:twink:

[Storm Eagle]

Man! I can't believe I missed this! I would have loved to see Don get some more character development! Grrr!:tmad:

As for your comments - I'm not surprised you mentioned this. Obviously, Leo doesn't like Pulverizer. Also, what do you expect? He's a teenager. Some teens act like jerks now and then. It doesn't mean he's jerk forever.:twink:

Yeah, they're jerks until they get a firm swift kick in the ass to help them see the light. If he can ever get changed back, I hope Timothy does learn from that mistake.

[CowabungaMikey]

Does anybody have pics of this ep/ a link to the full ep?

[BabyTurtles]

...wow....as Mikey said...Timothy is JACKED up!

I'm with Raph.... Don...put Timothy in your room so we don't have to look at em...T^T

that was kinda disturbing for me XD......

[turtletoons81]

...wow....as Mikey said...Timothy is JACKED up!

I'm with Raph.... Don...put Timothy in your room so we don't have to look at em...T^T

that was kinda disturbing for me XD......

tim's mutation was unsettling which made me nervous, i never get this kinda feel in a kid's show at all..

[BabyTurtles]

tim's mutation was unsettling which made me nervous, i never get this kinda feel in a kid's show at all..

I....know right...

I just find him straight up nasty....I feel bad for him....

but Donnie said over and over again...don't do it....

he should of touched an animal first....maybe he would have turned out differently.

[Storm Eagle]

I....know right...

I just find him straight up nasty....I feel bad for him....

But Donnie said over and over again...don't do it....

He should have touched an animal first....maybe he would have turned out differently.

That's why I said that Donatello should have explained how being mutated works. I believe all he said was that it's dangerous. Timothy would need to know just what makes it so dangerous. Just like with a kid. Then if that's not enough, then perhaps a spanking is in order. Sadly, that spanking ended up coming in the form of a wicked nasty mutation.

[turtletoons81]

off topic:i don't know about you guy's but i like the name timothy.

[LH]

I know it was intended for laughs, but Timothy screaming "IT BURNS!!!" was pretty unsettling to me...

[Storm Eagle]

I know it was intended for laughs, but Timothy screaming "IT BURNS!!!" was pretty unsettling to me...

It never occurred to me that it was meant for laughs, and I'm not so sure it was. All I did was throw my hands up in the air, sighed, and might have thought something along the lines of "why did you have to do it?".

[demonsweat]

IT BURRRNNNSSSS

Wow, did not see that coming!! I thought he'd be Newtralizer too. I mean with the naming scheme it just made sense. What a horrible/awesome surprise.

I feel for this guy too. I never hated Pulverizer like some do... sure he was an idiot, but his heart was in the right place. He wanted to be a hero, he was just too dumb and lazy to pull it off. What a tragic end to his character. Don will surely build him some appendages and he'll start moving around (and maybe engineer a way for him to talk). The whole episode was some great character development for Don over all.

On a side note, Don promises that he'll "find a way to change him back." Wonder if this means we might see some sort of de-mutagen in the future?





off-topic:
He's building himself to be harder, better, faster, stronger... heck, we've got Kanye West going on here...

(That's Daft Punk. Kanye just sampled them in one of his songs. Sorry, pet peeve, haha. :D)

[Tinuvielsdreams]

I know it was intended for laughs, but Timothy screaming "IT BURNS!!!" was pretty unsettling to me...

That part got me, it was the horrible realization moment. There is something very accurate about how they are depicting the characters. That moment of, it's too late I screwed up is something most of us can relate to.

I believe if they want to further develop the characters this moment will have a profound impact on how they handle the humans who enter their lives.

[DonatelloNinja82]

Man! I can't believe I missed this! I would have loved to see Don get some more character development! Grrr!:tmad:

As for your comments - I'm not surprised you mentioned this. Obviously, Leo doesn't like Pulverizer. Also, what do you expect? He's a teenager. Some teens act like jerks now and then. It doesn't mean he's jerk forever.:twink:

Yes, Leo and Raph especially are like that in the regard that they act very self-assured and cocky at times. They act like teens at times, as they are teens. Doesn't mean both of them are complete jerks...:)

[Sleepingseeker]

I believe if they want to further develop the characters this moment will have a profound impact on how they handle the humans who enter their lives.

Oo! What an interesting angle to explore...yeah, that could be really interesting if they flesh that out. Nice.

[Sleepingseeker]

Timothy would need to know just what makes it so dangerous. Just like with a kid. Then if that's not enough, then perhaps a spanking is in order. Sadly, that spanking ended up coming in the form of a wicked nasty mutation.
Okay your last line here had me cracking up so bad. Yes...yes...that spanking was quite extreme XD

[NinjaMan]

That's why I said that Donatello should have explained how being mutated works. I believe all he said was that it's dangerous. Timothy would need to know just what makes it so dangerous. Just like with a kid. Then if that's not enough, then perhaps a spanking is in order. Sadly, that spanking ended up coming in the form of a wicked nasty mutation.

Well with everything going on, Donnie probably felt he didn't have time to go into those details. He probably figured telling him it was dangerous should have been enough. Man poor guy. Really can't wait to see how he develops as Mutagen Man.

[Sleepingseeker]

Well with everything going on, Donnie probably felt he didn't have time to go into those details. He probably figured telling him it was dangerous should have been enough. Man poor guy. Really can't wait to see how he develops as Mutagen Man.

You know, it sort of tied into Splinter urging them to learn to use each other's weapons...he knew that one day they'd be in a hard spot and need to learn to defend themselves with anything instead of being so stuck on their weapons of choice...he didn't go into it in detail, but was trying to make them heed his warning...I actually thought they'd play that up a bit more...but maybe I'm reaching...

[NinjaMan]

You know, it sort of tied into Splinter urging them to learn to use each other's weapons...he knew that one day they'd be in a hard spot and need to learn to defend themselves with anything instead of being so stuck on their weapons of choice...he didn't go into it in detail, but was trying to make them heed his warning...I actually thought they'd play that up a bit more...but maybe I'm reaching...

Hmm.. that's a good observation.

[oldmanwinters]

It might be due to the CGI budget. Maybe they can't have too many characters running around?

I know that in the older days, most shows had to work within a certain limit of how many different voice actors could have speaking roles in a single episode. Maybe it's a voice actors' Union thing? Could have something to do with that.

[NinjaMan]

I know that in the older days, most shows had to work within a certain limit of how many different voice actors could have speaking roles in a single episode. Maybe it's a voice actors' Union thing? Could have something to do with that.

Yeah I've actually heard of that before over on a Transformers Prime forum.

[Guitar_Raph]

Don got to drive Raph's mini motorcycle! When was the last time Mikey (outside my fanfics) & Leo drove a motorcycle of any kind?

Liked the idea where Splinter made them switch weapons, then takes their weapons away. That gives me an idea for a fanfic!

[Lightjump]

anybody know where the full episode is?

[Bossa Nova]

This episode blew me away. I feel like I haven't been too thrilled with the last few eps but this was just...wow. I LOVE that we get some character development from Donnie that doesn't relate to April. We really see how much he took to heart his responsibility over Tim and even once he was mutated he was still determined to help him. That's just awesome. This is going to be something weighing in on his mind in the future and I'm super excited to see how he deals with it. Not only that but he got in some really badass fighting moves for once too, even without his bo!

And I'm glad there were a few others also slightly disturbed at Tim's mutation. Hearing him scream was really unsettling, and I personally never really disliked The Pulverizer like I know many others seemed to, so I felt really bad for him. It shows just how far he was really willing to go to be just like his heroes, and I don't know if the creators intended for his backstory to be quite so deep, but it makes me really sad to wonder how he was treated to make him idolize the turtles THAT much, that he'd be willing to throw his whole life away just to help them and be accepted by them.

Anyway, the mix of humor and darkness in this was just spot on. I genuinely laughed out loud more than a couple of times, yet the serious turn the ep took still ran smoothly and totally gripped me. This episode was just excellent from start to finish and I seriously hope we get a lot more like it.

[LivingMutagen]

Don got to drive Raph's mini motorcycle! When was the last time Mikey (outside my fanfics) & Leo drove a motorcycle of any kind?

Liked the idea where Splinter made them switch weapons, then takes their weapons away. That gives me an idea for a fanfic!

Leo did in Enemy of my Enemy

[redsai4lex]

Wow! How fast these episode discussions pile up... I haven't been part of one as it was new in about 8 years! Man, time flies when you're working so much! :tsad: I'm still waiting to get home just to see this ep. !! I hope it's not as bad as I've been reading...

[MrTMNT2012]

I honestly feel this is one of the BEST Episodes so far! I'm really glad they went with the direction they did, and Mutagen Man turned out Better for it. :) Love this Show!

[Coola Yagami]

I honestly feel this is one of the BEST Episodes so far! I'm really glad they went with the direction they did, and Mutagen Man turned out Better for it. :) Love this Show!

I also noticed the Turtles totally suck without their weapons. They suck with each others' weapons. And even when they have to get makeshift weapons, they still resort to something similar to their own weapons. In that aspect they suck as ninjas. I know the Turtles are famous for their weapons... after all, people identify with them by their weapons as much as they do with their bandana colors... but still... they're martial arts fighters. They should be able to hold their own without weopons.

Also my girl pointed out how funny it looked how they seemed defenseless without their weapons, and then when they get them they start doing spin kicks and such.... which is something they could have done without their weapons anyways... It's like Leo kicks harder when he's holding his sword or something.

[DonatelloNinja82]

Leo did in Enemy of my Enemy

There were some in the Red Sky Seasons where they ride on Carter's motorcycle I believe.

[BubblyShell22]

There may have been descriptions that state Tim is a teenager, but to me, he looks a lot older than that. Oh well, I'm having him as older in my fan fic that I'm working on since that's how he looks to me.

[DonatelloNinja82]

There may have been descriptions that state Tim is a teenager, but to me, he looks a lot older than that. Oh well, I'm having him as older in my fan fic that I'm working on since that's how he looks to me.

I always viewed him as 25ish

[Kevin G]

Thanks guys :) I don't have anyone to confine with the show so this was the best place to express how I feel. I plan on re watching it once it's on On Demand.

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah... at first it was kinda funny like 'ow... this stuff kinda burns.. does it always burn..?' then it stopped being funny as he started screaming and running around begging for help. Then I realized 'oh crap.... he's not gonna become the Newtralizer... they're gonna turn him into Mutagen Man....' and there we go. Yeah, that transformation was pretty dark for a kid's show.

I still don't know why everyone thought he was gonna become the Newtralizer. It didn't fit. Plus there was never any sign or mention of a random newt running around so he could come in contact with it.

[Guitar_Raph]

Leo did in Enemy of my Enemy

OK, when did Mikey last drove a motorcycle? Was it Back to the Sewers, Fast Forward or 2K3 TMNT?

[Overlordofnobodies]

Well did not see that coming.
Like many other I felt sorry for Tim when he change into what will likely become Mutagen Man. He just what to be one of the guys. That said I dont feel that bad do to he was sort of asking for some thing like this to happen.

It be like me what to join the army and never think of all the bad thing that can happen.Plus I can see how he will become a big bad guy next season. He will 100% go after Fishface and Dogpound once Donnie give him a body that can move.

[Kevin G]

Yeah... at first it was kinda funny like 'ow... this stuff kinda burns.. does it always burn..?' then it stopped being funny as he started screaming and running around begging for help. Then I realized 'oh crap.... he's not gonna become the Newtralizer... they're gonna turn him into Mutagen Man....' and there we go. Yeah, that transformation was pretty dark for a kid's show.

I still don't know why everyone thought he was gonna become the Newtralizer. It didn't fit. Plus there was never any sign or mention of a random newt running around so he could come in contact with it.

It also was kinda of sad that no one was able to help him. He would run to the Foot Soldiers (and yes I know they are the foot) but they backed away, The Turtles couldn't help him so he was like begging for help.

[NinjaMan]

Yeah... at first it was kinda funny like 'ow... this stuff kinda burns.. does it always burn..?' then it stopped being funny as he started screaming and running around begging for help. Then I realized 'oh crap.... he's not gonna become the Newtralizer... they're gonna turn him into Mutagen Man....' and there we go. Yeah, that transformation was pretty dark for a kid's show.

I still don't know why everyone thought he was gonna become the Newtralizer. It didn't fit. Plus there was never any sign or mention of a random newt running around so he could come in contact with it.

I was saying from the beginning he wouldn't be Newtralizer but tons of people still hopped on that wagon. They thought because Newtralizer sounded like Pulverizer that was a valid reason.

[Drose18]

This wasn't my favorite episode but I was happy that Karai didn't appear I'm so sick of her shes not even an interesting character anymore. As for Timothys mutation I felt bad for him eventho i dislike the character something about it made me feel bad.

[Drose18]

OK, when did Mikey last drove a motorcycle? Was it Back to the Sewers, Fast Forward or 2K3 TMNT?

He had his own cyber car in btts

[Kevin G]

I kinda figured that since there was no newt, we the saw Mutagen Man comic earlier in the episode (foreshadowing) he wasn't going to become The Newtralizer. Maybe The Newtrailizer is like an outlaw or deadly criminal in Dimension X, and The Kraang transport him to earth to defeat the Turtles.

I don't know, the end scene still leaves me with a bad feeling. The screaming "it burns!" and "help me!" the scene of Timothy mutated looking into the mirror when Donatello calls his name (trying to calm him down) and he rubs his tentacle n his face and is about to cry. I mean for God sake's I could watch films like Cannibal Holocaust and that **** won't phase me. But this, wow. I wasn't a big fan of the Pulverizer but this really bothered me.

[BubblyShell22]

I always viewed him as 25ish

Well, in my fan fic, I was going to have him and his sister be thirty, but I suppose I can bring their age down to maybe twenty six. I haven't mentioned their age yet, so it'll work.

[Kevin G]

I was saying from the beginning he wouldn't be Newtralizer but tons of people still hopped on that wagon. They thought because Newtralizer sounded like Pulverizer that was a valid reason.

I think everybody was expecting...

Michelangelo "Oh man, the Newtralizer is gonna cream us for sure!"

Leonardo "the Newtralizer ?"

Michelangelo *looks at Leonardo innocently* "well yeah, because he mutated into newt and his name is the Pulverizer, so I thought..."

Leonardo "okay we get it, run!"

[BubblyShell22]

Now, that would have been funny.

[NinjaMan]

I think everybody was expecting...

Michelangelo "Oh man, the Newtralizer is gonna cream us for sure!"

Leonardo "the Newtralizer ?"

Michelangelo *looks at Leonardo innocently* "well yeah, because he mutated into newt and his name is the Pulverizer, so I thought..."

Leonardo "okay we get it, run!"

LOL! Yeah that sounds like Mikey.

[Overlordofnobodies]

I think everybody was expecting...

Michelangelo "Oh man, the Newtralizer is gonna cream us for sure!"

Leonardo "the Newtralizer ?"

Michelangelo *looks at Leonardo innocently* "well yeah, because he mutated into newt and his name is the Pulverizer, so I thought..."

Leonardo "okay we get it, run!"

Yeah that is more or less what I thought when I set down to watch the show.

[DonatelloNinja82]

Well, in my fan fic, I was going to have him and his sister be thirty, but I suppose I can bring their age down to maybe twenty six. I haven't mentioned their age yet, so it'll work.

You dont have to do that, 30 will still work as well. :)

[Storm Eagle]

And I'm glad there were a few others also slightly disturbed at Tim's mutation. Hearing him scream was really unsettling, and I personally never really disliked The Pulverizer like I know many others seemed to, so I felt really bad for him. It shows just how far he was really willing to go to be just like his heroes, and I don't know if the creators intended for his backstory to be quite so deep, but it makes me really sad to wonder how he was treated to make him idolize the turtles THAT much, that he'd be willing to throw his whole life away just to help them and be accepted by them.


That ought to teach kids not to do stupid things just to gain acceptance. This is only fiction, but even in real life, the lesson still stands.

I couldn't believe that Timothy ended up joining the Foot Clan either.



I don't know, the end scene still leaves me with a bad feeling. The screaming "it burns!" and "help me!" the scene of Timothy mutated looking into the mirror when Donatello calls his name (trying to calm him down) and he rubs his tentacle n his face and is about to cry. I mean for God sake's I could watch films like Cannibal Holocaust and that **** won't phase me. But this, wow. I wasn't a big fan of the Pulverizer but this really bothered me.

Yeah that's just like me. I've sat through many a horror movie and felt fine (although I mostly feel bad for those victims that get killed when they're naked). Then there are things that are so disturbing that I'll never watch them ever the hell again.

[Ninjinister]

So for whatever reason I didn't get the whole episode. Just up to the point where Mikey holds up his comic book. Suck city. I think they're running it again tomorrow, neh? I'll try again.

[tlg80]

I didn't see that coming at all. I did have moments where I laughed out loud. Like Raph hitting himself with the handle and the get wrapped up in the chain. Splinter got pretty tough on them when he felt they didn't learn their lesson.
I really liked Donnie in this episode. Even though Tim drove him crazy he still worried about him and took Splinter's words to heart.
The mutation scene really bummed me out. Even though he wanted to be mutated and Donnie tried in vain to talk him out of it. It just left me sad. It was hard to watch.
On a lighter note, I loved those bikes. Sweet. Raph knew to dodge his bite that time. I agree, dog pound and Fishface should still be a tough battle. And I laughed at the Mario coin sound as well.
This episode had its moments, both good and bad.

[Guitar_Raph]

Leo did in Enemy of my Enemy

He had his own cyber car in btts

I found the correct answer for Mikey.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/PCenter/Ninja%20Turtles%20The%20Next%20Mutation/MotorcycleMikey.jpg
It was on a 2K3 episode. But which one?

[DonatelloNinja82]

I found the correct answer for Mikey.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/PCenter/Ninja%20Turtles%20The%20Next%20Mutation/MotorcycleMikey.jpg
It was on a 2K3 episode. But which one?


H.A.T.E from Season 3, I believe.

[miru]

I hoped he would become Newtralizer.

[Avatar Yuffie]

At first I was annoyed the Pulverizer was back.

And then got concerned as Don is about the guy.

And then got horrified.

I know I want Mutagen Man again... but not this way. ):

[turtletoons81]

At first I was annoyed the Pulverizer was back.

And then got concerned as Don is about the guy.

And then got horrified.

I know I want Mutagen Man again... but not this way. ):

but atleast he'll learn his lesson's later on in the season finale.

[Tinuvielsdreams]

Oo! What an interesting angle to explore...yeah, that could be really interesting if they flesh that out. Nice.

Thank you :) I was just thinking that so far they have met the Chef who makes their Pizza Gyoza and he was put into danger by the foot and now Pulverizer, so this could really wear on them. It could be interesting when and if they meet Casey.

They still have to protect April although she would have been in danger regardless.

[Coola Yagami]

Got caught into doing spring cleaning.. so I was finally able to blog about this episode. Here are my thoughts, though I already said most of them here already.

http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2013/05/nicktoons-tmnt-episode-22-pulverizer.html

[Storm Eagle]

Got caught into doing spring cleaning.. so I was finally able to blog about this episode. Here are my thoughts, though I already said most of them here already.

http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2013/05/nicktoons-tmnt-episode-22-pulverizer.html

Since you mentioned the 80s series, I had this thought earlier that if Timothy does get restored to his human form, it could be a better-looking human form for him. You know, just like what happened in the 80s series.

[The Sewer Lord]

Would anyone like to post a pic of the mutated Timothy? I haven't seen the episode yet.

[LivingMutagen]

Would anyone like to post a pic of the mutated Timothy? I haven't seen the episode yet.

Watch it here, around 27:45 http://www.justin.tv/livetoons13/b/402154075

[redsai4lex]

I see why everyone here has mixed reactions about this episode... I personally like it a lot, and think it is overall one of the most important episodes in the storyline thus far. I'm not a Pulverizer fan, but I do see why they chose him to fit the absurdist jester archetype. I also liked how there was a good bit of TMNT vs Foot action :tsmile:

[kzekedaurus]

So, apparently humans mutate into amorphous blobs if they haven't touched anything before they come into contact with mutagen. While I do feel sorry for Timothy, his immaturity got him into the situation. He doesn't listen!

His relationship with Donnie is becoming one of the more interesting parts of this show. To see him take responsibility for Timothy really adds more emotional heft to the series, and I am all the more glad for it.

Also those Foot-style motorcycles= badass.

[turtletoons81]

I see why everyone here has mixed reactions about this episode... I personally like it a lot, and think it is overall one of the most important episodes in the storyline thus far. I'm not a Pulverizer fan, but I do see why they chose him to fit the absurdist jester archetype. I also liked how there was a good bit of TMNT vs Foot action :tsmile:

i thought it was a good episode too but man was that last part of the episode nightmare fuel completely unereving to see and uncomfortable

[The Sewer Lord]

I loved it!!!!!!!!

[LivingMutagen]

I personally loved this episode. Now Don has two people to watch out for (Tim and April), though now Tim is just organs in a container. Everything is Don's fault in this show. Well, almost everything. There is Metalhead, which the Kraang can control, Spy Roach, a new enemy, Tim with just his organs, losing the power cell means losing Leatherhead, and more stuff.

Now back to the episode, I thought Tim was a fool for wanting to be, in his words, mutanted. But his heart was in the right place. His mutation was a bit disturbing. Liked how he joined the Foot though. I loved Donnie's character development and the fight scenes.

All in all, one of the best episodes.

[Andrew NDB]

Did anybody else cringe when the turtles threw their "weapons" at Timothy? I was like "Guys!! You'll puncture his organs!!" :teek:

I did the same thing, actually. Could have taken a broomstick to the brain.

[Cipher]

Just saw it.

Lots of fun. Probably my second favorite episode of the new series after "The Gauntlet."

This Mutagen Man is a great example of putting a new spin on old ideas in a way that makes sense and feels fresh, rather than paying homage for the sake of paying homage (take note, IDW, much as I enjoy your stuff). I hope to see him out and about in future episodes.

I'm also surprisingly excited to see the start of a Shredder-Kraang team-up, given how long they've been antagonistic in both the Nick and IDW series. We haven't seen them work together in almost ten years, and you know what? I'm ready for it. Shredder being tenuous villain buddies with a smarmy alien (or group of them) still has a lot of leg room, and I was starting to wonder if that aspect of the Turtles mythos was never going to resurface.

[CowabungaMikey]

My favorite episode. But so dark. I felt so bad for Timothy! Booyakasha.

[RaphAndDonnie]

I'm glad I DVR'd the episode. It's great. There's more emphasis on continuity and I was on the edge of my seat by the second commercial break. I don't think it was as strong as "Karai's Vendetta" and The Pulverizer doing his dramatic announcer voice a before getting mutated...ugh. :roll: Also, man I felt bad for The Pulverizer saying that the mutagen burnt. Just...it made me shudder. I'm not to fond of Mutagen Man's new design...if The Pulverizer is supposed to be Mutagen Man but I think it'll eventually grow on me...hopefully.

[CowabungaMikey]

Im almost sure he is Mutagen Man. On the officiaL TMNT facebook page it was announced that Mutagen Man would return.

[MaximeLoonatic]

Darn....from the looks of it, it seems like Pulverizer didn't mutate into the Newtralizer at all. Instead, he could very well become Mutagen Man. It doesn't make sense though. He was next to Dogpound, Fishface, AND all 4 turtles at the same time. How does he mutate into.....that?

Oh well, excellent episode, as always. Pulverizer always did get a good chuckle or two out of me.

Maybe couse the costume. The olny zone that he could be touched to become another mutant was the face.
Honestly I STILL see him becoming the Newtralizer in the future

[Xav]

I'm also surprisingly excited to see the start of a Shredder-Kraang team-up, given how long they've been antagonistic in both the Nick and IDW series. We haven't seen them work together in almost ten years, and you know what? I'm ready for it. Shredder being tenuous villain buddies with a smarmy alien (or group of them) still has a lot of leg room, and I was starting to wonder if that aspect of the Turtles mythos was never going to resurface.We saw them work together in Turtles Forever four years ago. Though I'm not sure why Shredder would want to work with the Kraang, seeing how they want to kill all life on earth.

[Lightjump]

I think that this is the most unsettling turtles has gotten, ever.
Sure most of us hated Timothy, but this is too much.
He wanted to be like the turtlles, but all he was doing was looking through
a window, now more than ever. Surprising how disturbing this show can be.

[Vivi]

Wasn't particularly fond of this episode, but I liked some of the humor. Splinter was a bit harsh sending his sons into perilous situations without their weapons.

Some of you guys here have me thinking that the mutation of someone that has had contact with a mutant might play a part in the finale or resolution of this conflict somehow.

[DonatelloNinja82]

We saw them work together in Turtles Forever four years ago. Though I'm not sure why Shredder would want to work with the Kraang, seeing how they want to kill all life on earth.

It's probably along the same lines that he worked with Krang in the OT...or at least the reason he kept talking about behind Krangs back. Just to meet his own want to destroy the TMNT. That was a goal Krang had to. Nick Shredder is so focused on destroying the turtles and getting to Yoshi, so I think he is willing to grasp on to any advantage he can. OT Shredder would say off to the side sometimes that he would be rid of Krang after he destroyed the turtles. I think it's the same for Nick Shredder.

[JTH]

http://img.poptower.com/pic-95119/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-nickelodeon.jpg?d=600
"Well, you all wanted Pulverizer gone. Looks like you got your wish.":trazz:

[LivingMutagen]

http://img.poptower.com/pic-95119/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-nickelodeon.jpg?d=600
"Well, you all wanted Pulverizer gone. Looks like you got your wish.":trazz:

Not at all. I liked him. Still do.

[snake]

I think that this is the most unsettling turtles has gotten, ever.

I'm still debating what episode has more nightmare fuel : this, or " insane in the membrane".

[CyberCubed]

I'm actually disappointed the Turtles didn't learn to use each others weapons like in the Nick comic and the 4kids episode. They just kinda brushed that off and went with the "anything can be a weapon" thing.

I actually wonder if this was done so the Nick comic can stay in continuity with the show because they learned to use each others weapons there.

As for Mutagen Man, I guess "Seymour Guts" won't be used, but since he's such a minor character it doesn't really matter.

[Karai Samurai]

Whoa what an emotional episode. I love how well developed these characters are. The turtles all feel responsible for someone: Leo for his brothers, Raph for Mikey, Mikey for other mutants, and as it seems, Donnie for humans. Donnie has always been a little high-strung so I wonder how poor Timothy's demise will effect him.

Also, the episodes were aired out of order. Maybe that's why April didn't appear?

[snake]

Whoa what an emotional episode. I love well developed these characters are. The turtles all feel responsible for someone: Leo for his brothers, Raph for Mikey, Mikey for other mutants, and as it seems, Donnie for humans. Donnie has always been a little high-strung so I wonder how poor Timothy's demise will effect him.

Also, the episodes were aired out of order. Maybe that's why April didn't appear?

Glad you liked it, karai samurai, and welcome to the forums! Enjoy your stay :D

[Shark_Blade]

The Pulverizer.. just the name boils my blood.

I consider myself a calm man, but everytime he's on screen I just want to beat that idiot to a pulp. Now he's a useless slimy blob, hope he stays that way for a looong time.

I just wish Donnie don't make promises easily off the hook wanting to change him back. You don't have to promise anything, Don..

Oh, hey. The turtles changed weapons, very cool. And I love how the Splinter is very strict and authoritative, shouting and punishing the turtles by taking their weapons. Don't see that with other Splinter reincarnations. That's why I love him the best, very realistic like a real sensei.

[Overlordofnobodies]

Whoa what an emotional episode. I love well developed these characters are. The turtles all feel responsible for someone: Leo for his brothers, Raph for Mikey, Mikey for other mutants, and as it seems, Donnie for humans. Donnie has always been a little high-strung so I wonder how poor Timothy's demise will effect him.

Also, the episodes were aired out of order. Maybe that's why April didn't appear?

I dont think they are out of order but some can be a sort of filler. They can be place any where in the time line of the show. Like this one can be place any where after they have meant Tim but see as we did not see April I''m takeing it before she move in.

At lest that how I see it.

[DonatelloNinja82]

Whoa what an emotional episode. I love well developed these characters are. The turtles all feel responsible for someone: Leo for his brothers, Raph for Mikey, Mikey for other mutants, and as it seems, Donnie for humans. Donnie has always been a little high-strung so I wonder how poor Timothy's demise will effect him.

Also, the episodes were aired out of order. Maybe that's why April didn't appear?

Hi and welcome! You raise a good point about each turtles feeling responsible for a different aspect in their lives. And I love how high-strung Donnie is!!

[Karai Samurai]

Glad you liked it, karai samurai, and welcome to the forums! Enjoy your stay :D

Thanks :) I've been lurking since the Nick series started and I thought I'd finally join the conversation!

[tmntfan4ever]

OK, when did Mikey last drove a motorcycle? Was it Back to the Sewers, Fast Forward or 2K3 TMNT?

He had his own cyber car in btts
Mikey had his own shell cycle in Return of the Justice Force in the 2k3 series

[LivingMutagen]

I dont think they are out of order but some can be a sort of filler. They can be place any where in the time line of the show. Like this one can be place any where after they have meant Tim but see as we did not see April I''m takeing it before she move in.

At lest that how I see it.

Ah, but Shredder first questioned the Kraang in the Karai's Vendetta, Know he seems to know more, about Mutagen and April now. Also, I' sure April was sleeping, after all she doesn't stay up all night like the turtles

[Shark_Blade]

http://img.poptower.com/pic-95119/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-nickelodeon.jpg?d=600
"Well, you all wanted Pulverizer gone. Looks like you got your wish.":trazz:He's not technically gone.. forever yet. But at least he's out of the picture for a very long time. :twink:

[NinjaPug]

IGN Review up. They gave it a 8.0 / 10.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/12/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-pulverizer-returns-review

[CyberCubed]

Agree with that review. No idea why the Turtles using each others weapons didn't continue throughout the episode.

[MrTMNT2012]

Agree with that review. No idea why the Turtles using each others weapons didn't continue throughout the episode.

Maybe because they got caught disobeying the lesson by Splinter?

....Did you even watch the Episode? :trolleye:

[Martin]

I seem to be part of a minority here, but I didn't like the ep... like at all. So many things didn't make any sense. So buckle up, super-rant time ahead:

First you've got splinter demanding the turtles to switch their weapons, which is understandable, and a really nice way to see the turtles out of their comfort zone. In other iterations however (I'm thinking 2k3 here), they at least knew what they were doing once they traded weapons; they might have not been masters at it since it wasn't their weapon of choice, but they had some basic knowledge of how to operate them correctly. So, why did splinter force them to trade? If you think that they should learn how to fight with different types of weapons, you gotta teach them how to do it first. That's what training is for, learning. The whole point of the exercise was for them to learn to adapt in case they lost their weapons, not to force them to fight dreadful enemies with a big handicap.

They also missed a great bonding moment for the turtles. There is a scene, in which they are all in the lair, either contemplating or practising with their new weapons, trying to get the hang of them. Wouldn't it have been great if, idk, Raph came up to donnie and was like 'hey, you are doing it wrong', and then proceeded to teach him a few basics on how to work the sais. Then donnie could have done the same with leo, and so on and so forth.

Another thing that bugged me was when the foot ninjas were taking timothy to the warehouse. Why on earth would you use bikes for that? You literally have a van in which dogpound travels all the time, why not use that? Also, an effing fish is driving a bike... that's not suspicious, at all. We are on ep 22 (or 23, however you like to see it), and we haven't got even one mention of police report, or even of a shady photograph taken by someone of the turtles. It's like people don't even exist in this iteration... or maybe they just don't care about the fact that mutants are running loose down in the streets. The shellraiser is a smart idea since you can't see them in there, but the patrol buggies? in one ep they were literally slaloning (not sure that's even a word) around people in plain sight. It's just like they don't even care about being seen.

I'm gonna deviate here for a second and ask a question about the shellraiser: since they lost the power cell, how the hell are they powering that thing? in one of the eps after the first pulverizer show, in one of the interior shots of the van the cell was still in it's place; I attribute this to a lazy modeler more than anything, but it does make you wonder how are they still using that thing.

Moving on, another great moment was when the foot locked the turtles inside the warehouse, and they were like 'we are trapped!', completely dismissing the fact that they came in through a freaking window. Also, how did shredder know the pulverizer? I thought those affairs would be far below him, and that he would just ask bradrad to pick up an useless soldier for the test. But I guess that would have made sense, and we can't have that now, can we?

All these kind of things make me wonder if 2k12 will hold up to the test of time any better than other shows have.

[LivingMutagen]

I seem to be part of a minority here, but I didn't like the ep... like at all. So many things didn't make any sense. So buckle up, super-rant time ahead:

First you've got splinter demanding the turtles to switch their weapons, which is understandable, and a really nice way to see the turtles out of their comfort zone. In other iterations however (I'm thinking 2k3 here), they at least knew what they were doing once they traded weapons; they might have not been masters at it since it wasn't their weapon of choice, but they had some basic knowledge of how to operate them correctly. So, why did splinter force them to trade? If you think that they should learn how to fight with different types of weapons, you gotta teach them how to do it first. That's what training is for, learning. The whole point of the exercise was for them to learn to adapt in case they lost their weapons, not to force them to fight dreadful enemies with a big handicap.

They also missed a great bonding moment for the turtles. There is a scene, in which they are all in the lair, either contemplating or practising with their new weapons, trying to get the hang of them. Wouldn't it have been great if, idk, Raph came up to donnie and was like 'hey, you are doing it wrong', and then proceeded to teach him a few basics on how to work the sais. Then donnie could have done the same with leo, and so on and so forth.

Another thing that bugged me was when the foot ninjas were taking timothy to the warehouse. Why on earth would you use bikes for that? You literally have a van in which dogpound travels all the time, why not use that? Also, an effing fish is driving a bike... that's not suspicious, at all. We are on ep 22 (or 23, however you like to see it), and we haven't got even one mention of police report, or even of a shady photograph taken by someone of the turtles. It's like people don't even exist in this iteration... or maybe they just don't care about the fact that mutants are running loose down in the streets. The shellraiser is a smart idea since you can't see them in there, but the patrol buggies? in one ep they were literally slaloning (not sure that's even a word) around people in plain sight. It's just like they don't even care about being seen.

I'm gonna deviate here for a second and ask a question about the shellraiser: since they lost the power cell, how the hell are they powering that thing? in one of the eps after the first pulverizer show, in one of the interior shots of the van the cell was still in it's place; I attribute this to a lazy modeler more than anything, but it does make you wonder how are they still using that thing.

Moving on, another great moment was when the foot locked the turtles inside the warehouse, and they were like 'we are trapped!', completely dismissing the fact that they came in through a freaking window. Also, how did shredder know the pulverizer? I thought those affairs would be far below him, and that he would just ask bradrad to pick up an useless soldier for the test. But I guess that would have made sense, and we can't have that now, can we?

All these kind of things make me wonder if 2k12 will hold up to the test of time any better than other shows have.

Twas midnight

[sdp]

The episode tried too hard to not be too dark that it kind of diminished the impact. The episode feels very dark at times only to have disclaimer dialog washing the hands of the turtles and blaming it all on the Pulverizer. Imagine if it really had been the turtles fault he got mutated, also having some lines like "what is happening to me, this is not what I wanted" would've been great. It's still a good episode but it could've become one of the best, something that rivaled say the banned Baxter Stockman episode of 2k3.

Not a bad origin for Mutagen Man, didn't like the design a lot at first since it's another "huge mutant monster" like the ones we've been getting from this show but I guess it wasn't too bad. When they put him on the tube I thought he would take his legs/arms out of the tube so he'd look more like his original design. I have a feeling he will still become the newtralizer, It'll be Donnies way of "saving" him, by completing his mutation. I'd prefer it not be the case but it seems like probably they won't forget him and give him a happy ending of sorts.

[NinjaPug]

Aren't we supposed to see the Newtralizer this season though (this is an assumption on my part because the toy was already created)? We've also been told by the producers that Mutagen Man will play a big part in S2. Based on that, I don't see how they can turn Tim from MM to Newtralizer.

I like the theory that Newtralizer is from Dimension X.

[NinjaMan]

Aren't we supposed to see the Newtralizer this season though (this is an assumption on my part because the toy was already created)? We've also been told by the producers that Mutagen Man will play a big part in S2. Based on that, I don't see how they can turn Tim from MM to Newtralizer.

I like the theory that Newtralizer is from Dimension X.

It was never said anywhere we would get Newt this season. I even talked to Clockwork about him and he had nothing about the character. Fans were just speculating wildly again. And yea MM is playing a huge role next season. I still don't know why people think he'll become Newtralizer. Ciro loves Mutagen Man and wants to use him.

[MrTMNT2012]

I seem to be part of a minority here, but I didn't like the ep... like at all. So many things didn't make any sense. So buckle up, super-rant time ahead:

First you've got splinter demanding the turtles to switch their weapons, which is understandable, and a really nice way to see the turtles out of their comfort zone. In other iterations however (I'm thinking 2k3 here), they at least knew what they were doing once they traded weapons; they might have not been masters at it since it wasn't their weapon of choice, but they had some basic knowledge of how to operate them correctly. So, why did splinter force them to trade? If you think that they should learn how to fight with different types of weapons, you gotta teach them how to do it first. That's what training is for, learning. The whole point of the exercise was for them to learn to adapt in case they lost their weapons, not to force them to fight dreadful enemies with a big handicap.

They also missed a great bonding moment for the turtles. There is a scene, in which they are all in the lair, either contemplating or practising with their new weapons, trying to get the hang of them. Wouldn't it have been great if, idk, Raph came up to donnie and was like 'hey, you are doing it wrong', and then proceeded to teach him a few basics on how to work the sais. Then donnie could have done the same with leo, and so on and so forth.

Another thing that bugged me was when the foot ninjas were taking timothy to the warehouse. Why on earth would you use bikes for that? You literally have a van in which dogpound travels all the time, why not use that? Also, an effing fish is driving a bike... that's not suspicious, at all. We are on ep 22 (or 23, however you like to see it), and we haven't got even one mention of police report, or even of a shady photograph taken by someone of the turtles. It's like people don't even exist in this iteration... or maybe they just don't care about the fact that mutants are running loose down in the streets. The shellraiser is a smart idea since you can't see them in there, but the patrol buggies? in one ep they were literally slaloning (not sure that's even a word) around people in plain sight. It's just like they don't even care about being seen.

I'm gonna deviate here for a second and ask a question about the shellraiser: since they lost the power cell, how the hell are they powering that thing? in one of the eps after the first pulverizer show, in one of the interior shots of the van the cell was still in it's place; I attribute this to a lazy modeler more than anything, but it does make you wonder how are they still using that thing.

Moving on, another great moment was when the foot locked the turtles inside the warehouse, and they were like 'we are trapped!', completely dismissing the fact that they came in through a freaking window. Also, how did shredder know the pulverizer? I thought those affairs would be far below him, and that he would just ask bradrad to pick up an useless soldier for the test. But I guess that would have made sense, and we can't have that now, can we?

All these kind of things make me wonder if 2k12 will hold up to the test of time any better than other shows have.

Most of this is just nitpicking. I really can't believe some of you people that have to resort to nitpicking to find anything wrong with the Episode. If you didn't enjoy it, that's fine, but atleast try to find something substantial to complain about.

If we were gonna point out the tiny mistakes and illogical continuity errors of any TMNT Show, we would be here for a LONG Time! :ohwell:

[VaughnMichael]

Wow I hated Pulverizer but now Tim's mutation was so horrific that I have not been able to stop thinking about it.
Fishface was a pretty horrible one also but this really takes the cake.
Tim was really annoying but he just wanted to help, and I seriously feel that he didn't deserve this fate.
Though my partner seems to disagree with me.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out in season 2 since it was said he will play a big role.
It's interesting to see the Shredder and Kraang thing finally playing out also.
But much like everyone else I have to wonder what the hell happened to Karai and April.

[NinjaPug]

It was never said anywhere we would get Newt this season. I even talked to Clockwork about him and he had nothing about the character. Fans were just speculating wildly again. And yea MM is playing a huge role next season. I still don't know why people think he'll become Newtralizer. Ciro loves Mutagen Man and wants to use him.

Like I said, Newtralizer being in S1 was an assumption on my part. I don't think it's a stretch to think he would be in the 1st season based on his toy release. Why would they release his toy now but not introduce the character until S2? I don't think I'm "speculating wildly" based on this.

I agree about the second part of your post. It's a big stretch to think Tim is still going to be the Newtralizer.

[Martin]

Most of this is just nitpicking. I really can't believe some of you people that have to resort to nitpicking to find anything wrong with the Episode. If you didn't enjoy it, that's fine, but atleast try to find something substantial to complain about.

If we were gonna point out the tiny mistakes and illogical continuity errors of any TMNT Show, we would be here for a LONG Time! :ohwell:

I believe the quality of a show is a summation of things, and all these little details affect how the story develops. It's not that I'm purposely trying to find ways to criticize the show since I really enjoy watching it. It's just that in this particular ep, there were a lot of little (and not so little) details that, when added together, affected the overall feel of the story.

[NinjaMan]

Like I said, Newtralizer being in S1 was an assumption on my part. I don't think it's a stretch to think he would be in the 1st season based on his toy release. Why would they release his toy now but not introduce the character until S2? I don't think I'm "speculating wildly" based on this.

I agree about the second part of your post. It's a big stretch to think Tim is still going to be the Newtralizer.

My bad, I wasn't referring to you wildly speculating, there were others I were referring to. But some toylines do introduce a figure that hasn't been shown yet. The Prime Line had an Ultra Magnus toy come out and he didn't show up till Season 3. It's pretty common to happen that way. Heck look at Spider Bytz, appeared in episode 3 and still no toy released yet.

[LivingMutagen]

My bad, I wasn't referring to you wildly speculating, there were others I were referring to. But some toylines do introduce a figure that hasn't been shown yet. The Prime Line had an Ultra Magnus toy come out and he didn't show up till Season 3. It's pretty common to happen that way. Heck look at Spider Bytz, appeared in episode 3 and still no toy released yet.

Yeah, but that Magnus toy is a one off. The new one is the one as he appears in show. They also made others who haven't appeared in Prime (yet)

[NinjaMan]

Yeah, but that Magnus toy is a one off. The new one is the one as he appears in show. They also made others who haven't appeared in Prime (yet)

But the point still stand, it's a character who didn't appear until the next season.

[BabyTurtles]

.....I couldn't get any sleep last night because I had a nightmare about Timothy......

dangit...I guess I was more disturbed by this episode than I thought...
(I feel like such a baby :cry:)

[LivingMutagen]

.....I couldn't get any sleep last night because I had a nightmare about Timothy......

dangit...I guess I was more disturbed by this episode than I thought...
(I feel like such a baby :cry:)

Don't worry. It's fine.

[turtletoons81]

Don't worry. It's fine.

i mean really why did jeremy shipp went all out with the mutation of timothy....i get he was trying to humourous but it came off disturbing with all the yelling from tim.

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

First you've got splinter demanding the turtles to switch their weapons, which is understandable, and a really nice way to see the turtles out of their comfort zone... So, why did splinter force them to trade? If you think that they should learn how to fight with different types of weapons, you gotta teach them how to do it first. That's what training is for, learning. The whole point of the exercise was for them to learn to adapt in case they lost their weapons, not to force them to fight dreadful enemies with a big handicap.

I too found that to be slightly implausible. I get not being adept with the weapons after trading, but they acted almost as if they never held them before.

They also missed a great bonding moment for the turtles. There is a scene, in which they are all in the lair, either contemplating or practising with their new weapons, trying to get the hang of them. Wouldn't it have been great if, idk, Raph came up to donnie and was like 'hey, you are doing it wrong', and then proceeded to teach him a few basics on how to work the sais. Then donnie could have done the same with leo, and so on and so forth.

I attribute that to pacing. We had a lot of things that needed to be addressed in this episode. Lessons about adapting, lessons about accepting responsibility. Consequences of failing to listen to warnings. And the confrontations/fights... Bonding would've been nice, but I think it would have affected the pace.

Another thing that bugged me was when the foot ninjas were taking timothy to the warehouse. Why on earth would you use bikes for that? You literally have a van in which dogpound travels all the time, why not use that?...

From a brand standpoint, this is clearly a signal: "Hey kids, new awesome toy to collect! Get on it!"

Storywise, I like to think that it was a way for the Foot to be seen. They're short on Foot soldiers- I see it as a way to advertise to potential members. Think about it, some young punk with time on his hands sees these awesome bikes with cool banners speeding past. It'll peak his interest at the very least, maybe even to the point where he'd join up. As for Fishface riding out there, if they're fast enough, hey could be mistaken as a mascot.

I know, doesn't hold up much water. I'm grasping at straws trying to make that work in my head. :ohwell:

I'm gonna deviate here for a second and ask a question about the shellraiser: since they lost the power cell, how the hell are they powering that thing?

Donnie installed a bulky generator in its place.

Moving on, another great moment was when the foot locked the turtles inside the warehouse, and they were like 'we are trapped!', completely dismissing the fact that they came in through a freaking window.

I just assumed they panicked. They just watched some guy they were trying to save get oozed and turned into a blob. Same reason they threw their improv weapons. By the time they finished containing Mutagen Man, there was no time to haul the container out of the building through a window.

[BabyTurtles]

i mean really why did jeremy shipp went all out with the mutation of timothy....i get he was trying to humourous but it came off disturbing with all the yelling from tim.

I didn't even notice him yelling....and I was still kinda freaked out T^T

[snake]

.....I couldn't get any sleep last night because I had a nightmare about Timothy......

dangit...I guess I was more disturbed by this episode than I thought...
(I feel like such a baby :cry:)

Tell us about it :D

[BabyTurtles]

Tell us about it :D

the nightmare? :cry:

well it was more like.....I was seeing things in my closet type thing.
blobs with organs.......

it doesn't sound bad, but i was literally waking up every 10 minutes thinking I heard or saw something XD...

[snake]

the nightmare? :cry:

well it was more like.....I was seeing things in my closet type thing.
blobs with organs.......

it doesn't sound bad, but i was literally waking up every 10 minutes thinking I heard or saw something XD...

I've had nightmares concerning Turtles before..........

[MrTMNT2012]

IGN Review up. They gave it a 8.0 / 10.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/12/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-pulverizer-returns-review

Agreed with the review. IGN's Max Nicholson is pretty much the perfect guy to review this Show! Can't wait for his Complete Season 1 Review.

Great Episode indeed.

[Mondo_Gecko]

I'm really surprised everyone thought he would become Newtralizer, ever since Mutagen Man was announced as appearing, I knew it would be ol' Pulvarizer because Mutagen Man is the most tragic character next to Muckman. And I couldn't think of any other character then him. Then it become very apparent once Mutagen Man was shown on the comic cover and then Donatello kept warning him. Careful what you wish for Pulvarizer.

That being said, I loved this episode and can't wait to see what happens to Mutagen Man next, there's so much potential with him.

And Shredder and the Kraang may have an alliance. Interesting.....

Also, I wonder if Mutagen Man will talk in this version or will he be like Justin and Spy Roach?

[BabyTurtles]

Mikey episode next!! :D that'll cheer me up

[turtletoons81]

Mikey episode next!! :D that'll cheer me up

well yeah...but mikey has too fight his brother's...which is also sad.

[snake]

I'm really surprised everyone thought he would become Newtralizer, ever since Mutagen Man was announced as appearing, I knew it would be ol' Pulvarizer because Mutagen Man is the most tragic character next to Muckman. And I couldn't think of any other character then him. Then it become very apparent once Mutagen Man was shown on the comic cover and then Donatello kept warning him. Careful what you wish for Pulvarizer.

That being said, I loved this episode and can't wait to see what happens to Mutagen Man next, there's so much potential with him.

And Shredder and the Kraang may have an alliance. Interesting.....

Also, I wonder if Mutagen Man will talk in this version or will he be like Justin and Spy Roach?

I'm guessing Donnie will hook up a voice device to his suit once he makes it.

[Storm Eagle]

Wasn't particularly fond of this episode, but I liked some of the humor. Splinter was a bit harsh sending his sons into perilous situations without their weapons.



I thought that perhaps that Splinter could have let them use their own weapons in battle since they're already familiar with them. Plus the battles would go more smoothly. Then they could have just trained themselves to use each other's weapons when they're not battling.

I'm still debating what episode has more nightmare fuel : this, or " insane in the membrane".

"Insane in the Membrane" was messed up too, but "The Pulverizer Returns!" just disturbed me a lot more. To think that they decided not to have "Insane in the Membrane" air in the US because they thought it would be too gruesome for kids. I'm a grown ass man, but yesterday's episode just made me sick.

.....I couldn't get any sleep last night because I had a nightmare about Timothy......



I figured someone would have that problem.

[Powder]

I had a dream last night that I had an encounter with an insane surgeon who was removing a corpses intestines. I was watching over him but then he cut off one of my fingers and wanted to sew it back somewhere obscene. I can't help but wonder if this episode didn't influences my subconscious. Freaky.

[Karai Samurai]

.....I couldn't get any sleep last night because I had a nightmare about Timothy......

dangit...I guess I was more disturbed by this episode than I thought...
(I feel like such a baby :cry:)

Don't feel bad at all! The first thing I thought about in the morning was Timothy screaming and running in circles. Ugh. I felt so uneasy and sad watching that scene.

[Overlordofnobodies]

.....I couldn't get any sleep last night because I had a nightmare about Timothy......

dangit...I guess I was more disturbed by this episode than I thought...
(I feel like such a baby :cry:)

Trust me when i say you are not a baby. That was pure nightmare fuel we saw yesterday.Really you have to have a iron will not to feel a little fear and gross watching it.

[shredder orokusaki]

the nightmare? :cry:

well it was more like.....I was seeing things in my closet type thing.
blobs with organs.......

it doesn't sound bad, but i was literally waking up every 10 minutes thinking I heard or saw something XD...

Nightmare? For me it was very funny. But maybe that because i am used in violent video games and movies that are realy scary.

[LH]

When they put him on the tube I thought he would take his legs/arms out of the tube so he'd look more like his original design.

Was it just me, or did the Mutagen container have a sort of "humanoid" appearance before it was emptied? I have a feeling that Donnie will use some of Metalhead's tech to make Mutagen Man look more like his original self somewhere down the line.

I've had nightmares concerning Turtles before..........

the nightmare? :cry:

well it was more like.....I was seeing things in my closet type thing.
blobs with organs.......

it doesn't sound bad, but i was literally waking up every 10 minutes thinking I heard or saw something XD...

I had a dream last night that I had an encounter with an insane surgeon who was removing a corpses intestines. I was watching over him but then he cut off one of my fingers and wanted to sew it back somewhere obscene. I can't help but wonder if this episode didn't influences my subconscious. Freaky.

Man.. Looks like this episode is really messing with people's heads.. I myself can't stop thinking about how painful that must have been.. It just sat there on his skin.. and it melted his skin and bones..

[LivingMutagen]

Nightmare? For me it was very funny. But maybe that because i am used in violent video games and movies that are realy scary.

How would you like your skin burned off and only your organs remaining? Is that funny?

[Lethal Lullaby]

Okay?? Well I personally thought his mutation was just... meh. I would have preferred something a little more complex. But that's only my opinion. And sorry, he did not seem scary to me. Gross? Of course.

[Cipher]

We saw them work together in Turtles Forever four years ago. Though I'm not sure why Shredder would want to work with the Kraang, seeing how they want to kill all life on earth.
Come on, now. You know what I meant. We've only really seen them work together in the Fred Wolf series, where they had an interesting rival/best-friend dynamic as the show went on. Even in Adventures, they were hardly friends and their partnership dissolved pretty quickly.

I can see this Shredder teaming up with the Kraang due to his insane preoccupation with the Turtles. I don't think it will end well, though, and I don't think Karai or several of his underlings will be happy with it.

[CyberCubed]

Come on, now. You know what I meant. We've only really seen them work together in the Fred Wolf series, where they had an interesting rival/best-friend dynamic as the show went on. Even in Adventures, they were hardly friends and their partnership dissolved pretty quickly.

I can see this Shredder teaming up with the Kraang due to his insane preoccupation with the Turtles. I don't think it will end well, though, and I don't think Karai or several of his underlings will be happy with it.

The Kraang still want to terraform the Earth so his alliance with them is going to be short lived. It's not like the OT where Shredder and Krang could rule as equal partners.

Also I'm wondering if that one Kraang they captured will become THE Krang at some point. I can see him being experimented with mutagen which will raise his intelligence and make him different from the hive mind.

[Storm Eagle]

Nightmare? For me it was very funny. But maybe that because I am used in violent video games and movies that are really scary.

I grew up on violent video games and horror movies, but some things are just a bit too over the top for me. I still can't stand to look at Garbage Pail Kids to this day.

[JuniorTurtle]

Is the average age of the people here 2? Not to be insulting but I cant believe how many people are saying they were disturbed by the mutagen scene and its giving them nightmares, etc.... If 5 year old kids can handle it, I can only hope the posters here can handle a cartoon.

[turtletoons81]

I grew up on violent video games and horror movies, but some things are just a bit too over the top for me. I still can't stand to look at Garbage Pail Kids to this day.

lol that is still a horror movie to watch /sarcasm/

[LH]

Is the average age of the people here 2? Not to be insulting but I cant believe how many people are saying they were disturbed by the mutagen scene and its giving them nightmares, etc.... If 5 year old kids can handle it, I can only hope the posters here can handle a cartoon.

When you look at it on the surface, no it's not that bad. What gets people is the implications the scene holds.

[snake]

Glad to find some others who found this down right disturbing! :teek:

[Gwydion]

I'm really surprised everyone thought he would become Newtralizer, ever since Mutagen Man was announced as appearing, I knew it would be ol' Pulvarizer because Mutagen Man is the most tragic character next to Muckman. And I couldn't think of any other character then him. Then it become very apparent once Mutagen Man was shown on the comic cover and then Donatello kept warning him. Careful what you wish for Pulvarizer.
And here I thought maybe I was the only one, lol. I don't know, I just assumed from the get go that he was going to be Mutagen Man - there were enough signs pointing to it. But then I admittedly stayed away from Newtralizer spoilers, so I didn't know anything about him aside from his name. Maybe that has something to do with it too.

First you've got splinter demanding the turtles to switch their weapons, which is understandable, and a really nice way to see the turtles out of their comfort zone. In other iterations however (I'm thinking 2k3 here), they at least knew what they were doing once they traded weapons; they might have not been masters at it since it wasn't their weapon of choice, but they had some basic knowledge of how to operate them correctly. So, why did splinter force them to trade? If you think that they should learn how to fight with different types of weapons, you gotta teach them how to do it first. That's what training is for, learning. The whole point of the exercise was for them to learn to adapt in case they lost their weapons, not to force them to fight dreadful enemies with a big handicap.
This admittedly bugged me a little too. Why send out the guys and force them to fight in a way they are not only not accustomed to but clearly REALLY bad at? They all wound up unable to take a single swing/strike at their opponent when first asked to switch - that just seems kind of stupid. Have them practice that way in the lair? Absolutely. Be pissed off that they switched back to their normal weapons when they realized they were going to get their butts handed to them (and, against Fishface and Dogpound, possibly killed or dragged off to Shredder)? That just seemed a bit ridiculous.

I didn't mind that he eventually sent them out without weapons - after all, they SHOULD be able to fight without them - but Splinter being so angry with them switching back just seemed unreasonable. So yeah, on this point, I agree with you.

[demonsweat]

Aw man...
http://i.imgur.com/FJnGBqs.jpg

:cry:

artist credit (http://jasjuliet.tumblr.com/)

[LH]

Aw man...
http://i.imgur.com/FJnGBqs.jpg

:cry:

artist credit (http://jasjuliet.tumblr.com/)

That... Ripped my heart out. :tcry:

[snake]

Is the average age of the people here 2? Not to be insulting but I cant believe how many people are saying they were disturbed by the mutagen scene and its giving them nightmares, etc.... If 5 year old kids can handle it, I can only hope the posters here can handle a cartoon.

Do you want your flesh burned off by a toxic substance? The pain burning through your skin, ripping it off, crushing your bones, your brain can hardly stand it. Your life flashes before you, all hope is lost. Your goals, dreams, your life in general, are all gone.
Your not yourself. You are a monster.

Scared now? :)

[VaughnMichael]

Don't feel bad at all! The first thing I thought about in the morning was Timothy screaming and running in circles. Ugh. I felt so uneasy and sad watching that scene.
I think many of us did, I seriously can not stop thinking about it. :(
My partner is like why is everyone so upset it's just a show/cartoon it's not like it's real.
That... Ripped my heart out. :tcry:
Crap mine as well, crying a bit and not afraid to admit it and I'm 33 so kiss my butt for anyone calling fans babies.

[tlg80]

Aw man...
http://i.imgur.com/FJnGBqs.jpg

:cry:

artist credit (http://jasjuliet.tumblr.com/)

That was moving. :tcry:

Didn't want to double post, here was the other one.

I have suffered from nightmares since I was a little girl. I still have them. It happens, don't feel bad. Some of us are more freaked out then others. This episode didn't cause any. But I read a book and a scene freaked me out and it ended up in my dreams. One more thing, zombies still freak me out.

[RaphAndDonnie]

Aw man...
http://i.imgur.com/FJnGBqs.jpg

:cry:

artist credit (http://jasjuliet.tumblr.com/)

You've given me my daily dose of feels. :cry:

[LH]

I think many of us did, I seriously can not stop thinking about it. :(
My partner is like why is everyone so upset it's just a show/cartoon it's not like it's real.

Crap mine as well, crying a bit and not afraid to admit it and I'm 33 so kiss my butt for anyone calling fans babies.

Yeah.. The characters may not physically exists.. But the emotions they create are very much real..

[CyberCubed]

I thought Timmy running with the ooze on his face was supposed to be funny. At least his comments were, "It's really happening" and such.

Pulverizer was the least liked character in this show but that was done purposely so you would feel bad for him after.

[Cipher]

I guess I'm just a god damn monster, because I was not upset one bit by watching this cartoon character go through a telegraphed transition into an established franchise super-hero/villain. It was about as disturbing as your average Batman villain origin.

I could see myself being bothered by it if I were under the age of ten, though. I'm guessing this was a pretty disturbing episode for a lot of the target audience.

[BubblyShell22]

Awww, Sweaty, that's so heartfelt especially seeing Donnie on the roof there. Whoever made that drawing should pat themselves on the back.

[allie300]

Aw man...
http://i.imgur.com/FJnGBqs.jpg

:cry:

artist credit (http://jasjuliet.tumblr.com/)

I had more of a emotional reaction to this art work than to ole pulvie's mutation scene which I found hilarious:P

[NinjaMan]

Aw man...
http://i.imgur.com/FJnGBqs.jpg

:cry:

artist credit (http://jasjuliet.tumblr.com/)

That's a nice piece there.

[Storm Eagle]

Is the average age of the people here 2? Not to be insulting but I cant believe how many people are saying they were disturbed by the mutagen scene and its giving them nightmares, etc.... If 5 year old kids can handle it, I can only hope the posters here can handle a cartoon.

You're in no position to be dissing us when you've just got only 3 posts here.

[Cipher]

You're in no position to be dissing us when you've just got only 3 posts here.
Hahahahaha.

Did I wake up in an alternate universe this morning where a higher number of posts on a Ninja Turtles forum somehow makes you more mature?

Back to the barracks, 801.

[Lethal Lullaby]

I know I said it doesn't scare me, but I can see how it must be painful for Timothy. To me the scariest stuff is what I can't see/ what may or may not be real, of course there are real things that are as some would call terrifying.

[marcelangelo]

Hahahahaha.

Did I wake up in an alternate universe this morning where a higher number of posts on a Ninja Turtles forum somehow makes you more mature?

Back to the barracks, 801.

;)hahahahaha

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

Aw man...
http://i.imgur.com/FJnGBqs.jpg

:cry:

artist credit (http://jasjuliet.tumblr.com/)

...the hell these onions come from?

Seriously though, I had a brief thought last night about the life Timothy left behind while pursuing this mutant ninja fantasy- the friends and family, the goals that will never be met...

This just nails devastating nature of his transformation. I didn't lose sleep over what he became, because all I could think of at the time was how heavily this must weigh on Donatello.

I focused on that, because thinking about this is much worse.

[BabyTurtles]

I guess I wouldn't be as freaked out if Timothy was just some random adult character of the day.

but he was a happy-go-lucky teen......that was in an episode before...so we got to know him a bit...plus his mutation is straight up nasty.

..UGH..I don't know...Maybe I'm thinking to hard XD.......



........I gotta stare at this new form till I'm used to it.... >:U I ain't staying freaked out!!

[Ninjinister]

I haven't even seen the episode yet and that hit me right in the feels.

[Overlordofnobodies]

Aw man...
http://i.imgur.com/FJnGBqs.jpg

:cry:

artist credit (http://jasjuliet.tumblr.com/)

NOT THIS AGAIN!:o:cry:
I saw this on Tumblr only two hours after watch the new episode. This made me cry!

That said. With the way Tim acts I take he dont have many friends and he likely did not come from a good family or had much of one.

[Shark_Blade]

Especially at the end where Leo was saying he got what he wanted and Raph said to keep him in the lab so he wouldnt have to look at him. Cold man...lol.
I gotta agree with them. What Leo said, he did get what he wanted. It's not like he wasn't warned countless times, his folly was his own fault. Some people should be glad he didn't die.

Raph, eventhough a bit harsh but I wouldn't wanna see him too. Sure it's sad but also makes me angry because he was being SO stupid.

[CyberCubed]

I also liked how Raph was OK with Pulverizer being used as canon fodder.

This show is great because its not some goody two shoes show where kids are taught the right things.