Kevin Eastman talks about the new TMNT movie

[TigerClaw]

Some fans asked Kevin Eastman about the new TMNT movie while at Phoenix Comic Con 2013.

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[chrisdude]

Good stuff to hear, at the end, there. Thanks for sharing!

[Plasticplayhouse]

some nice tidbits of info. i like the part about all the turtleisms, not dumbing it down, and using the avengers as "the bar". i get the feeling that the fight scenes in this film will be redonkulous!

[xChri5x]

Finally, some more stuff on this movie. I feel like it's been slow the last week or so. Maybe we just got spoiled will all this new stuff leaking (photos of production etc) fairly rapidly.

[Yorae]

Thank you for sharing the video.

Oooh, no dumbing down sounds good :)

Also, referencing the Avengers movie? Are they using the same production model as the Avengers? If so that would be awesome!

Super stoked!

[chrisdude]

I think pointing out that they can't get away with dumbing down the action anymore is a really good point. The neutered kind of fight choreography they used in the first movies was cool for "3 Ninjas" and "Surf Ninjas," etc (Ninjas everywhere. Hmm). But it literally doesn't exist anymore. Not even kids would accept that.

[TigerClaw]

Yeah, the fight scenes are going to have to be huge.

[Bmaga123]

Great stuff, thanks for posting :tcool:

[CyberCubed]

Did he say anything about Colonel Shredar?

[Shark_Blade]

Setting the avengers as "the bar". Good that they are aiming high with this one. :D

[chrisdude]

If this movie delivers on half of what Eastman says he heard people talk about, we're in for something awesome. But we'll see.

[Galactus]

I think most of us have learned to take what Kevin says with a pinch of salt. I don't doubt that many people working on this movie have good intentions and feel as if they are making something the fans will love. I'm pretty sure everyone working on Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation thought that too.

"The Avengers" being the bar could be intepreted in many ways. Is it that they are shooting for those kinds of numbers? That level of quality? Or that kind of spectacle with aliens invading NYC and turtles having to stop the incursion?

[DonatelloNinja82]

Good news to hear...I'm excited for this movie!!:D

[Dudette]

The Avengers being the bar really is great news. Didn't want to expect anything from this movie, really, but now I have a more positive view on it.

Thanks for sharing!

[ctt4lfecw]

nice find I wish he could have commented on the COl. Schrader thing

[Donatello19]

He's seen the character designs.....I want to see them so badly!

[d_osborn]

it's a shame the entire q&a wasn't posted... cutting him off mid-sentence was a little jarring.

[DonatelloNinja82]

He's seen the character designs.....I want to see them so badly!

I know...it's not fair!!!! :tcry:

[chrisdude]

It's crazy because I really can't imagine what they look like. Realistic turtles... I feel like they really expect it to blow everybody's minds.

[Powder]

it's a shame the entire q&a wasn't posted... cutting him off mid-sentence was a little jarring.

It's not a TMNT Q&A... They just posted the parts that were.

[The Sewer Lord]

Nice find, man!

[Zulithe]

Everything he said was music to my ears... still apprehensive though. Liebesman hasn't been able to hit anything out of the park for me. It needs to be much better than Wrath of the Titans if they are trying to set things up for multiple films down the road.

[TigerClaw]

Everything he said was music to my ears... still apprehensive though. Liebesman hasn't been able to hit anything out of the park for me. It needs to be much better than Wrath of the Titans if they are trying to set things up for multiple films down the road.
I never seen Wrath of the Titans, But I did really enjoyed Battle: Los Angeles which was his first big movie at the time.

[d_osborn]

It's not a TMNT Q&A... They just posted the parts that were.
who said anything about a TMNT Q&A? i said it's a shame that the entire Q&A wasn't posted, not just TMNT. it cut off mid-sentence.

[Plasticplayhouse]

I never seen Wrath of the Titans, But I did really enjoyed Battle: Los Angeles which was his first big movie at the time.

the story of that movie was pretty forgetable to me, but i did like how everything looked. considering it was a decent film for his first effort and i'm sure he's grown in his abilities since, i'm really looking forward to see what he does with this.

[Bob]

The thing about Jonathon Liebesman is he really isn’t that bad a director. He knows how to put a film together and how to get good performances from his actors, and I think he’s got a magnificent visual style. However, he’s had nothing but piss-poor scripts to work from. He’s not a writer himself, so he’s one of those directors who are incredibly reliant on the script.

[Powder]

who said anything about a TMNT Q&A? i said it's a shame that the entire Q&A wasn't posted, not just TMNT. it cut off mid-sentence.

Have you looked for it? I'd wager that the whole thing is on youtube, but as I said before, this person just did TMNT fans a favor.

[electric_sheep]

i wonder how much money they gave him to advertise this ****?
you can see that e has nothing good to say about it, and just humming it up..
why do you people buy into this?

[Powder]

In all fairness, Kevin seems to react the same way about everything ever. So it's really not a sign of anything good or bad.

[Half Sh3ll Hero]

That Panel was freaking packed! I was able to stay for about ten minutes and then I had to bail but it was great meeting him there.

[Fugitoid Jones]

I agree with electric_sheep to an extent.

No offense to Kevin, but if he's involved with the movie, what's he supposed to say? That it looks terrible and they aren't doing a very good job with it? Of course he kinda has to go out and say it looks good, that instills the audience with some confidence that the movie will be good so they'll go out and see it.

And about using The Avengers as the bar. Again, what's he supposed to say? "We're using Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer as the bar"? Of course you're gonna hype up your comic-book movie by comparing it to the most successful comic-book movie of all time.

I love Kevin, and while I don't think he would want to come out and lie to us, I understand the position he's in and am skeptical about how much he believes in what he's saying. But then again, maybe he truly does believe in the production and maybe it really will be awesome. We'll have to wait and see I guess.

[mexichrist83]

Fight scenes up to par with The Raid? Now that I have to see in a Ninja turtles movie! I can't see that happening in this movie but if the fight scenes are up to par with The Raid then that would be awesome!

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

I remember seeing somewhere that Kevin Eastman was trashing the second film, which granted I know a lot of people don't like Secret of the Ooze but I enjoy that film a lot. Granted it is his opinion, but I disagree with Eastman on that. And I can guarantee I'll enjoy that one much more than this flick. That's just a personal opinion though.


And to Kevin Eastman, i'm sorry, but STOP saying "the fight scenes are going to be up to par with The Raid: Redemption." If this film has fight scenes up to par with The Raid, then I will bow to it just on that fact alone.

But Nickelodeon is still a part of this film too Eastman, you really think they are going to have a Ninja Turtles film with fights scenes like that in it?

That makes zero sense. Why compare a Brutal, R-rated, no bull action picture like The Raid with this film...

Especially since all I've seen are characters like Vernon/Will Arnett, Whoopi Goldberg with the Don King afro going on, Megan Fox giving Raphael his sais in broad daylight and in public, and seemingly taking a page from the 80's cartoon.

Yeah, because when I think of the 1980's cartoon I immediately think of action scenes "up to par with The Raid: Redemption".

And Eastman, you and Laird were the ones thinking up that ridiculous "4th Live action film that never was" where the Turtles mutate yet again and get Powers. Like Leonardo could morph his skin into a chrome-like substance, Mikey could project a human appearance so he could talk to other humans, Raph could morph into a creature with claws, and Donnie got telekinetic and telepathic abilities.

Plus a villain called "Kirby" (I mean really, Kirby? Not a scary name for a bad guy. All I think about is that fat, pink puff/video game character).

And yet 'this will be the best Turtles movie ever!'

No, you know what will be? The 1990 film will be the best Turtles film ever.

And yes, before you say it, yes I am judging the film before it comes out. It's not like "oh some poor redneck in Iowa aka me ruined the film cause he was displeased". It's not like anything I say will make the people behind the film go "oh yes sir!"

And also, I hope to not see entire scenes of Megan Fox, Will Arnett, and Whoopi Goldberg just chatting away about nothing. Because, yeah, that's EXACTLY why I should go see a new Ninja Turtle film. For that!


Whew, sorry about that ranting from a fanboy, I'm calm now. Again, I apologize for that. Just to Eastman, don't go throwing out names like "The Raid Redemption" (a badass film) or The Avengers.

Because guess what, The Avengers didn't have folks like Megan Fox and Whoopi Goldberg in a Don King haircut (yes she won an Oscar...back in 1990. Since then she did Theodore Rex and The View...well Sister Act was after Ghost, which I liked. And I do love Jumpin' Jack Flash, that's my favorite film from her.)

Anyway, sorry bout that. Just letting off steam.

[sgtfbomb]

You do realize Eastman probably doesn't post here, right?

[NYShell]

You do realize Eastman probably doesn't post here, right?

He's just expressing his opinion on here, like everyone else. Nothing wrong with that. (Granted, some of the people on this forum do say stupid stuff. i.e- liking the kiddy/childish aspect more in the movies and cartoons than the real gritty stuff in the original mirage comics. That dumbed down stuff only works with little kids)

Sidenote: Eastman and all the other TMNT heads should scroll through here and post here. So they can ACTUALLY listen to the fans and not whitewash and dumb down everything. (some of the stupid fans actually like when they do those two things)

[ianke_2002]

Like has been said previously, if its anything like The Raid: Redemption's fight scenes, which is some of the best fighting ive ever seen in a movie, it could be fantastic.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Like has been said previously, if its anything like The Raid: Redemption's fight scenes, which is some of the best fighting ive ever seen in a movie, it could be fantastic.


To sgtfbomb, yes of course I know Eastman doesn't post on this forum.

And there is no way it'll be like The Raid with its' fight scenes.

So let me get this straight...no one else in Hollywood are doing fight scenes 'up to par with The Raid: Redemption' or Fist of Legend (another film Eastman mentioned), but yet Eastman thinks that this film will do it? Give me a break!

And to do stuff like The Raid or Fist of Legend, it would need to be R-rated. Just like both of those were. Not just for blood, but for intensity as well as various other things that the MPAA pick on (yes, even if a neck crack is too 'intense sounding' that's just one example).

And with Nickelodeon aka "Nickel & Diming" still helping produce the flick (along with Paramount) you're Not going to have anything near that.

If the guy said "the fight scenes will be like The Avengers", then I could understand and say 'ah ok Eastman'. That makes sense.

I know he said "Avengers will be the template" for the rest of the film (which again, I call BS on that. More like "The Avengers is a big hit, so let's throw that name out to the fans in order to make people Shout YAY."

But using references to R-rated martial art films, especially The Raid which is one of the best in the past 10 years, in comparison to this film is just silly and ridiculous to me. But again that's just my opinion.

That would be like if Michael Bay came out and compared his new Transformers 4 to Terminator 2: Judgment Day.

[Galactus]

Anyone else think that it'd be kinda hard to emulate the kind of action from Raid: The Redemption with the those huge ass bulky shells?

[The Stryker]

We have no clue how the shells will look in proportion to the actual sizes of the turtles or if they'll use the same shell casing for action scene filming.

[Bob]

He's just expressing his opinion on here, like everyone else. Nothing wrong with that. (Granted, some of the people on this forum do say stupid stuff. i.e- liking the kiddy/childish aspect more in the movies and cartoons than the real gritty stuff in the original mirage comics. That dumbed down stuff only works with little kids)

I like the way you just contradicted yourself there.

[Galactus]

We have no clue how the shells will look in proportion to the actual sizes of the turtles or if they'll use the same shell casing for action scene filming.

Given that we've seen the actors in the shells and motion capture costumes we can see the turtles will be at least as big as the actors in the suits. While I can see how their bodies will be "filled out" I can't see the finished turtles being much bigger to the point that those shells are more in proportion how the turtles are generaly depicted to do the kind of action scenes Kevin is trying to hype us for.

Also unless the movie turtles have the magic power to shrink their shells then their size makes it hard to do the kind of action they are talking about.

[NYShell]

I like the way you just contradicted yourself there.

I didn't contradict myself. He has the right to express himself and say anything he wants on the forum, even if he disagrees with someone. Just like I posted; I don't agree with what some of the other fans believe and/or express interest in. I expressed myself... just like in my previous post. Read more carefully next time, buddy.

[Cure]

You contradicted yourself by saying people are free to express their opinions, but then continued to put those who disagree with you down.

[Candy Kappa]

Given that we've seen the actors in the shells and motion capture costumes we can see the turtles will be at least as big as the actors in the suits. While I can see how their bodies will be "filled out" I can't see the finished turtles being much bigger to the point that those shells are more in proportion how the turtles are generaly depicted to do the kind of action scenes Kevin is trying to hype us for.

Also unless the movie turtles have the magic power to shrink their shells then their size makes it hard to do the kind of action they are talking about.

The shell size on the mocap suits aren't necessary the correct size in final product. As being a point of reference, the size can be changed to whatever the movie makers desire.

http://io9.com/5965699/side+by+side-comparisons-showing-the-magic-of-motion-capture/

anything can be changed in post, even the animation that is given by the mo-cap, it has to be refined and cleaned up.

[Galactus]

The shell size on the mocap suits aren't necessary the correct size in final product. As being a point of reference, the size can be changed to whatever the movie makers desire.

http://io9.com/5965699/side+by+side-comparisons-showing-the-magic-of-motion-capture/

anything can be changed in post, even the animation that is given by the mo-cap, it has to be refined and cleaned up.

I don't think you grasp my meaning.

I think it's fair to say that the shells in the motion capture suits are for the actors to move like the turtles, yes?

I think it's also fair to say that there'd be at least similarly sized shells worn by the stunt actors doing the fight scenes which would make it difficult to pull off the kind of action scenes Kevin claims they are doing in the movie.

[HeroTurtlesFan]

(Granted, some of the people on this forum do say stupid stuff. i.e- liking the kiddy/childish aspect more in the movies and cartoons than the real gritty stuff in the original mirage comics. That dumbed down stuff only works with little kids)



Did you seriously just say that anyone who prefers an aspect of the Turtles such as the cartoon or movies more than the original Mirage comics (i.e. somebody who might have a different opinion than yours) is saying "STUPID STUFF"???

This is dangerously close to the "you're only a true fan if..." statements that most fandoms are occasionally plagued with.

Wow, just wow.

[Candy Kappa]

not necessary, the shells are CG anyway, the stunt shells might be non existing to a lot lighter props. The dudes in the previous live action movies did some pretty decent stunts in their turtle costumes, and they include shells and a full body suit of latex. not to mention the guy playing Wink (the big troll) in Hellboy II The Golden Army. I don't think a oversized backpack will be an issue for great martial arts stunt actors

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And if the shells are too heavy or too hindering, theres lots of ways to "cheat" wire works, shell made of something not only is lightweight but also flexible, or no shell at all.

Looking up fight scenes from The Raid (I have not seen the movie yet) most of the fighting I've seen is very plausible for a humanoid turtle, there isn't much flashy flips and theatrical jumping like Wuxia martial movies. it's more au pair with more direct realistic fighting. A shell wouldn't be in the way of the fighting and a skilled stunt actor wouldn't have too much issues spelunking around with it on.

[chrisdude]

You guys think it's interesting that Mikey's shell really isn't so big?
It's probably intentional that Michelangelo has a more mobile shell, and Raph has a huge one.
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[Powder]

He's a shorter actor, their shells are just proportional to their size.

[NYShell]

You contradicted yourself by saying people are free to express their opinions, but then continued to put those who disagree with you down.

Did you seriously just say that anyone who prefers an aspect of the Turtles such as the cartoon or movies more than the original Mirage comics (i.e. somebody who might have a different opinion than yours) is saying "STUPID STUFF"???

This is dangerously close to the "you're only a true fan if..." statements that most fandoms are occasionally plagued with.

Wow, just wow.

How did I contradict myself? I said everyone is free to express themselves, even if they disagree with other people. I did just that in my post. Everyone has their own opinion, even if it's different from another. Where is this contradiction coming from? And I never said anything regarding "You're a real turtles fan if...". Don't put words in my mouth.

[Bob]

I didn't contradict myself. He has the right to express himself and say anything he wants on the forum, even if he disagrees with someone. Just like I posted; I don't agree with what some of the other fans believe and/or express interest in. I expressed myself... just like in my previous post. Read more carefully next time, buddy.

You welcomed the notion of everyone having the right to express their own opinion, and then proceeded to call them stupid for expressing something you don’t agree with. Really tolerant. I would say that is a bit of a contradiction. Buddy.

[NYShell]

Weren't there battery packs and stuff in the shells for the first 3 movies? There might be wiring and circuitry in there. I know they did something like that for Watchmen with Doc. Manhattan.

[Cure]

How did I contradict myself?

Calling people stupid for disagreeing with you is the contradiction.

[NYShell]

(Granted, some of the people on this forum do say stupid stuff.

Where did I actually call people stupid? Would you like me to read it you?

[Cure]

...right there? The point is you're championing freedom of opinion while putting down those who disagree with you by calling their opinion stupid. It's not rocket science.

[NYShell]

...right there? The point is you're championing freedom of opinion while putting down those who disagree with you by calling their opinion stupid. It's not rocket science.

You're talking like no one on this forum disagrees with other people. You're basically saying no one points there finger at another person's opinion and says that's wrong. You're saying you don't find anything to bitch about constantly. Go read every post you posted up on here against other people. Get some reading done, chump.

[The Stryker]

Guy. You talked about freedom of opinion but then pretty much said that an opinion that some have is 'stupid'. That's contradictory. That's literally all they're saying.

Getting real touchy over nothing there...chump?

[NYShell]

Guy. You talked about freedom of opinion but then pretty much said that an opinion that some have is 'stupid'. That's contradictory. That's literally all they're saying.

Getting real touchy over nothing there...chump?

Thinking someone else's opinion is stupid doesn't contradict what I was saying. It just shows that anyone can express their opinion even if they don't agree with another person's. Its not like everyone agrees on the same things on every thread. I'm not diminshing anyones right to express their opinion. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. And no, not getting touchy. I don't let little things like ninja turtles (even though I'm a fan) make me bitch about things throughout the whole day. Wink.

[chrisdude]

He's a shorter actor, their shells are just proportional to their size.I suppose. There's a positive correlation, for sure, but I think Raph's shell is a bit bulkier.
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[xChri5x]

Guy. You talked about freedom of opinion but then pretty much said that an opinion that some have is 'stupid'. That's contradictory. That's literally all they're saying.

Getting real touchy over nothing there...chump?

Sorry, that's not contradictory. Freedom of opinion is the right to have an opinion of someone else's opinion whether it is good or bad.

[NYShell]

Sorry, that's not contradictory. Freedom of opinion is the right to have an opinion of someone else's opinion whether it is good or bad.

Thank you.

[Leofan26]

I hope he stays true to his word and the fight scenes really will be that good, that'd be awesome :D

[Powder]

You can't expect him to 'stay true to his word' since he has no final say. He's but a very small voice among many, & one who seldom objects to anything, no less.

[Fugitoid Jones]

Thinking someone else's opinion is stupid doesn't contradict what I was saying. It just shows that anyone can express their opinion even if they don't agree with another person's. Its not like everyone agrees on the same things on every thread. I'm not diminshing anyones right to express their opinion. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. And no, not getting touchy. I don't let little things like ninja turtles (even though I'm a fan) make me bitch about things throughout the whole day. Wink.

Have to say that donnyt2u's statement here is accurate. Even if his opinions are really stupid.


And I feel that the Turtle's shells should be rather large, to fit their humanoid limbs in. So I'm cool if the motion-capture shell sizes we're seeing now are what's in the final product.

[Candy Kappa]

humanoid turtles would be having too much muscles to be able to retract their limbs, like Sea turtles

[NYShell]

Have to say that donnyt2u's statement here is accurate. Even if his opinions are really stupid.


And I feel that the Turtle's shells should be rather large, to fit their humanoid limbs in. So I'm cool if the motion-capture shell sizes we're seeing now are what's in the final product.

Thank you very much. Your opinions are really stupid too.

The shells look a little too big. I'm not sure if they're going to shrink the shells when they composite the CGI with live action footage.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

if Eastman says it looks good, then it is good

after all, he co created the teenage mutant ninja turtles

[zodiac brave]

if Eastman says it looks good, then it is good

after all, he co created the teenage mutant ninja turtles

ignorance is bliss.

[Galactus]

if Eastman says it looks good, then it is good

after all, he co created the teenage mutant ninja turtles

*cough Next Mutation *cough

[NYShell]

if Eastman says it looks good, then it is good

after all, he co created the teenage mutant ninja turtles

Um yeah, anyone can say their project looks good. There were many things that were said to turn out and be good, but ended up being terrible.

[Powder]

if Eastman says it looks good, then it is good

after all, he co created the teenage mutant ninja turtles

The mark of a true noob.

[chrisdude]

Can you imagine what would happen if Kevin Eastman sounded anything else? Imagine if he just said, "It looks okay," much less bad. The internet would blow up like when Bay said "alien."

[Plasticplayhouse]

Can you imagine what would happen if Kevin Eastman sounded anything else? Imagine if he just said, "It looks okay," much less bad. The internet would blow up like when Bay said "alien."

that would be scary!