'Beware The Batman' Coming To DC Nation This Summer!

[STORMSHADOW__210]

I think I just had a stroke from excitment....for die hard Batman fans like myself....this is great news.Warner Bros Animation announced the premier date for the much anticiapted new animated Batman series,Beware The Batman, today. The show will be included in the CN DC nation on July 13 at 10 a.m. (ET/PT.The new show will be CGI and have a much different take on Batman that fans have not seen before in a tv series.Lots of villains from the comics will be making their cartoon debut as well as Alfred having more of a role than just a butler with his secret agent background playing a role.The show has a A list cast as well including lots of actors from prime time television including Anthony Ruivivar (Batman[i] and JB Blanc ([i]Alfred[i]) from the [i]The Count of Monte Cristo.So without further delay...enjoy the teaser trailer below!

Source:ComingSoon.net (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=105637)

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[Raph's Girl]

Already a thread about it hon

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=35273&highlight=Beware+Batman

[ZariusTwo]

This guy is trying to get into a corporation's pants with these shill threads.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

?? lol hahahaha im trying to do what? hhahah and what the hell is a "shill" thread lol

Actually i honestly did go through a few pages skim reading titles to see if a thread already existed but didnt see one.Im not going to go through 30 pages just on the off chance that a active thread already exist.There is no money or "reward' for posting and sharing news with my tmnt comrades that i know of.

[Bauer536]

Comparing the animation between Nick's TMNT to CN's new Batman, TMNT wins!

This incarnation of the Dark Knight looks awful. This is the crappiest CGI I have ever seen. Probably the most low budget of a CGI show ever. Also, the villains really don't seem intimidating. A Pig and a Frog. Seriously. You can't just do ONE episode where the Joker is there? Like or not, Joker is part of Batman lore. You don't include him in your first season, what's the point? Also, I never dreamed that Batman would get into a fight with Lady Gaga before. Like I really care. If that's Catwoman, she looks more like Black Cat from Spider-Man.

[turtletoons81]

Comparing the animation between Nick's TMNT to CN's new Batman, TMNT wins!

This incarnation of the Dark Knight looks awful. This is the crappiest CGI I have ever seen. Probably the most low budget of a CGI show ever. Also, the villains really don't seem intimidating. A Pig and a Frog. Seriously. You can't just do ONE episode where the Joker is there? Like or not, Joker is part of Batman lore. You don't include him in your first season, what's the point? Also, I never dreamed that Batman would get into a fight with Lady Gaga before. Like I really care. If that's Catwoman, she looks more like Black Cat from Spider-Man.

honestly it looks more like paul dini's batman the animated series with a mix of 2005 the batman that aired on w.b kids.

[STORMSHADOW__210]

Heres my approach to the animation...i usually always complain about a new shows animation...from tfs prime,gi renegades,to nick tmnt...and THEN i get used to it and appreciate it as another form of art and if the show itself is solid,i will continue to watch and enjoy.At the end of the day,im just glad to have a new batman cartoon again.Was not a fan of brave and the bold...at all.

[TurtleTitan97]

This incarnation of the Dark Knight looks awful. This is the crappiest CGI I have ever seen. Probably the most low budget of a CGI show ever. Also, the villains really don't seem intimidating. A Pig and a Frog. Seriously. You can't just do ONE episode where the Joker is there? Like or not, Joker is part of Batman lore. You don't include him in your first season, what's the point? Also, I never dreamed that Batman would get into a fight with Lady Gaga before. Like I really care. If that's Catwoman, she looks more like Black Cat from Spider-Man.

Well actually Bauer, in the comics Professer Pyg is a pretty dark character:

In the comics he basically lobotomizes people into his brainwashed Dollotrons.

And as for "Lady Gaga", that's Magpie, a villian Superman and Batman fought in issue 3 the 1986 "The Man Of Steel" comic book series.

Anyway, after seeing the trailer, I'm kinda interested in watching this show. The CGI does look pretty neat. I'm sure Joker and the other Batman villians will appear later on down the road.

[Raph's Girl]

I'm sure Joker and the other Batman villians will appear later on down the road.

The only well known member of the rogue's gallery set to appear is Ra's Al Ghul. Show creators have basically said Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, ect won't show up like at all. The series is focusing on Professor Pygg's Circus of Strange.

[CyberCubed]

The trailer doesn't look bad at all. The animation isn't any worse than the Green Lantern cartoon and new villains never used in animation before is a plus

I'm sure they'll eventually use Joker, Riddler, etc but save them for Seasons 2 or 3. Just like I'm sure Robin will eventually show up even if they deny it now.

[sdp]

Yeah the trailer looks fine since it does look like a new interesting take on the character. I still would've preferred a Batfamily show but oh well, I guess eventually we'll get one since there's not much else they can do with the franchise after this show is over.

And yeah I'm sure familiar rogues will appear eventually, The Batman and Brave and the Bold also didn't want to use the "normal" rogues but eventually ended up using them, the whole idea of "This is a totally new take on Batman", was used in those two shows but people kept asking and complaining until they got them.

[CyberCubed]

Season 2 will bring old characters back. People are kidding themselves if they don't think Joker and Robin will show up eventually. These villains won't sell toys, that's the important thing.

[Cure]

Actually i honestly did go through a few pages skim reading titles to see if a thread already existed but didnt see one.Im not going to go through 30 pages just on the off chance that a active thread already exist.

There's a search function. Simple.

[Shreddhead]

I dont think the animation is all that bad, and im liking the black and yellow color scheme. But I think the Batman's design sucks, that face is terrible. Although Im digging the new batmobile.

[ObiWanFan4life]

I was already skeptical upon hearing that the show was being that Warner Bros was being retooled for censorship (:tgrumble:) and this trailer hasn't done anything to raise my interest. But hey, I guess I'll just have to watch for myself.

[TurtleTitan97]

Beware the Batman opening: http://family-room.ew.com/2013/07/02/beware-the-batman-opening-title-exclusives/

Pretty neat, IMO.

[Raph's Girl]

Beware the Batman opening: http://family-room.ew.com/2013/07/02/beware-the-batman-opening-title-exclusives/

Pretty neat, IMO.

Cool opening sequence... altho repeating "Beware the Bat" over and over again is a bit odd for a theme song...but it seems to fit I suppose.

[raph27]

Needs the Burton music. Then I'll watch it.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

the intros alright, but...

THAT IS THE WORST THEME I HAVE EVER HEARD FOR A BATMAN SHOW EVER, WHY CAN'T THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS:

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[ZariusTwo]

Needs the Burton music. Then I'll watch it.

Please pass the sign that reads "You are now exiting 1989" thankyou.

According to World's Finest, it's worth a watch

http://worldsfinestonline.com/WF/bewarebatman/

[Redeemer]

Everybody is complaining about the animation of this show just as they did with the new TMNT show (Including Myself) and now it is one of the most watched cartoon show out right now.

I do feel the animation is unusual, but if the stories are good then is has a shot.


Oh and give the new guy a break all because he didn't use the search button, at least he checked the first couple of pages.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Just saw the first episode and, it's better than I expected it to be, But I'm still bummed with the lack of Joker.

[oldmanwinters]

Hmm... I kept waiting to hear the theme song, but either I missed it or they didn't air it.

[Bauer536]

I saw it. As a Batman fan, I'm sorry. It stunk. DC has lost it.:tsad:

[Raph's Girl]

I found this to be interesting. It's kinda a Year One-ish take on Batman mostly because of Jim Gordon still being a Lt.

Im not sure I like this take on Alfred. He still raised Bruce but he doesn't appear to be that old. And then we have Kato er uh I mean Katana....yeah that's basically what she is...Kato. :ohwell:

Im curious tho if they'll be introducing more JSA or even some JLA members to this show. It's the first episode and we meet Michael Holt. There wasn't any hints about his Mr. Terrific persona so perhaps he's inspired to become Mr. Terrific after this ep?

As for Prof. Pyg and Mr. Toad... interesting power Toad has....Somewhat similar to Black Canary.

And I couldn't really tell but is Wayne Manor on an island??? It appears to be a fortress in the bay or overlooking the bay.

[Leo656]

Not feelin' it. I'm very much against every new cartoon show having to be CGI to begin with, but everything else they did with it just seems off.

It's very blatantly like the CGI Spider-Man show on MTV back after the first movie: just a place-holder to keep the franchise around until the next movie comes out.

I know nothing can or will ever top the 90s cartoon, but to my thinking, if your intention is not to at least TRY, don't bother. "Good enough for goodness sake" is not good enough. The people making these shows should be trying to make the very best show ever with every attempt. There's no excuse at all for not trying your best, just because you'll still be compared to something that came before. A big reason the 90s Batman show will never be surpassed, is that nobody even wants to TRY.

[Bauer536]

Not feelin' it. I'm very much against every new cartoon show having to be CGI to begin with, but everything else they did with it just seems off.

It's very blatantly like the CGI Spider-Man show on MTV back after the first movie: just a place-holder to keep the franchise around until the next movie comes out.

I know nothing can or will ever top the 90s cartoon, but to my thinking, if your intention is not to at least TRY, don't bother. "Good enough for goodness sake" is not good enough. The people making these shows should be trying to make the very best show ever with every attempt. There's no excuse at all for not trying your best, just because you'll still be compared to something that came before. A big reason the 90s Batman show will never be surpassed, is that nobody even wants to TRY.

:tcool:You are spot on. That's the reason I think the majority of us love Nick's TMNT. Even though it's not the classic OT series, the team still tries to make it the "very best show ever" by incorporating the stuff we love from the franchise.:tsmile: That's why Beware the Batman fails. Saying, "We don't want to use Joker for other villains (e.g. Professor Pyg and Mr. Toad)," is a mistake. Joker is an iconic villain that people know and love, and you're going to avoid him in your first season (or only season) just for some stupid pig and frog?!:tmad:

This is one of those moments where people change things for the sake of change, and it's getting old . . . and lame.:trolleye: "We don't want Alfred just to be an old butler, so he's going to be an MI6 agent so he can carry guns and help Batman." No no no no. You want an MI6 agent on your show, make up the character. Don't use someone who's been iconic in the Batman franchise. Why can't they just come up with an original character like in the 90s Batman, where the creators developed Harley Quinn? They didn't know she would become so popular. At first it was just an experiment. Soon, she became as iconic as the main heroes and villains. Why can't they do that more often?

Besides that, what about merchandising and promotion? Nick's TMNT has been advertising their show even before it came on to get kids and fans watching it. Once it became popular, mostly everything was selling. They've sold toys, school supplies, games, etc. What does Beware the Batman have? Nothing. There's nothing that focuses on that show. The Batman figures they have now do not even represent anything from the show. If you were going to release a new Batman show, it would be wise to release toys based on it before its release. This is just another case of the CGI Green Lantern series that never had toys because the movie didn't make that much money.

Plus, I did not get any joy watching this cartoon. The 90s Batman series is a classic that I have always loved and had great episodes in the spirit of Batman. The Batman in the 00s was okay, but still fun and did an interesting take on the franchise. Brave and the Bold wasn't like any of them, but it was still enjoyable. "Mayhem of the Music Meister" is definitely one of my family's favorites.:twink: But this episode I watched today (the premiere itself to a new Batman show) was, sadly, boring and forgettable. Batman should be exciting, not bland like this one. Also, DC makes the worst CGI. It's like they take 2-D drawn models and turn them into 3-D. Sometimes, modernizing a traditional look is awkward. Yet, 2-D drawings from Nick's TMNT look great as CGI models. I just don't get it.

[Leo656]

To be fair, it's been established in the comics that in his youth Alfred had served in the British military, so he's always been capable with guns, it's just not done very often because it's only necessary when the story calls for it.

I liked the Green Lantern show, for what it was, but to this day I'd still prefer a GL show done in the style of the Timm-verse, or Young Justice, or pretty much any other 2D animated style, over anything CGI. But I will say, at least being in CGI fits the look and feel of Green Lantern and that universe; it's a bright, shiny, fantastical universe. Batman, way less so. And I agree, if they had to go CGI, absolutely HAD to, it still should look better.

I wanted to and tried to hate Brave and the Bold, but it was way too clever and faithful to the comics. It's a shame such faithfulness was "wasted" on a "kiddie show", though; in some ways, it was even more faithful to the comics than anything ever done, even Justice League Unlimited.

[CyberCubed]

pretty decent opener. Interesting take on Batman's detective skills, Alfred and villains. I'll have to see a few more episodes to judge if I like this show or not though.

[The Sewer Lord]

What's this stuff about Anarchy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarky#Media) I've been seeing?

[Wildcat]

I find it amazing that alot of people judge a show after 1 episode. I usually give a show about 10 episodes before deciding if I wanna continue following it.

Im not sure what any of you expected the opener to be. First episodes are usually generic anyway and are used more to introduce the theme of things.

I know Im in a minority when I say I did not like Animated Series. The tone, art and characters were great but what bothered me was Batman over came things way too easy. Even in the most specific circumstances he had a quick answer for it. Whats the term for this...Deuce Ex Machina?

Beyond and The Batman were ok from what I saw. I liked Brave an the Bold but I got into it too late and then it ended shortly after.

[CyberCubed]

Batman is the worlds greatest detective. He's supposed to figure things out quickly.

[chrisdude]

I just watched the re-air this morning, and I kind of dug it. I feared the show would skew too real-world for my taste, in response to the Dark Knight movies. But I thought the villains were humorous and charming without being too silly. At the same time, it felt a bit mature in its handling of Bruce and Alfred's relationship. I haven't watched the last two or three Batman cartoons, but this one actually had my attention, and I was a bit impressed. Enough to watch it next week, anyway.

[Wildcat]

Batman is the worlds greatest detective. He's supposed to figure things out quickly. I meant hes able to overcome situations way too easily.

Like once hes tied up in chains and dumped underwater...the next scene hes free. Did not even show how he escaped.

Then theres a bus, I think, speeding down the street and he drives around it and the Batmobile's fins pop up and hold it back while he slams the brakes to stop.

That's really specific. It should not be able to just unleash a new weapon or ability like that and quickly solve any given problem. Theres a limit.

[CyberCubed]

I know they said they don't want to use old villains in this show thus far, but I get the feeling Joker will show up in the season finale. They'll probably end the season on something big.

I seriously doubt we'll go an entire 65 episode series run without ever seeing Joker, Riddler, Catwoman, Penguin, Mr. Freeze or the others. This show is also intended to sell toys, the toy companies will most likely be begging them to put the iconic villains in it eventually.

[NinjaPug]

Anyone know how many episodes were ordered for Season 1? I'm assuming it was 26 like Green Lantern but couldn't find any confirmation of that.

[CyberCubed]

Anyone know how many episodes were ordered for Season 1? I'm assuming it was 26 like Green Lantern but couldn't find any confirmation of that.

CN tends to order 26 episode chunks of a show, but then they split them up into two "seasons" and only air 13 episodes and save the other 13 after a rerun break.

The show will probably have a 65 episode run overall like The Batman and Brave and the Bold did. Unless it really bombs as a show then it might get canceled after only 26 episodes like Green Lantern did.

[Cure]

I saw this joint. I liked it, pretty good stuff. I'll continue to watch.

[Ninjinister]

I was actually less impressed than I had anticipated. Was pretty stoked but I just wasn't feelin' it while watching. I'll keep going though, maybe it'll hook me.

[Garfield]

I just watched the re-air this morning, and I kind of dug it. I feared the show would skew too real-world for my taste, in response to the Dark Knight movies. But I thought the villains were humorous and charming without being too silly. At the same time, it felt a bit mature in its handling of Bruce and Alfred's relationship. I haven't watched the last two or three Batman cartoons, but this one actually had my attention, and I was a bit impressed. Enough to watch it next week, anyway.

My sentiments for the most part. I look forward to seeing more episodes to see where it goes.

[sdp]

Didn't hate it, didn't like it. We'll see how it goes, this show is doing things I want and doing things I don't want. I just feel we're treading very similar territory and I'm not sure if the differences are going to make a big difference.

[CyberCubed]

Its using new villains never seen in animation before, how is that old territory? Not to mention a younger and more active Alfred and Katana.

[Leo656]

I don't think anyone was screaming for any of those things, though. Like literally nobody ever said "I wish I could see less Robin and Nightwing, and more of this C-List sidekick Katana who nobody has ever, ever cared about, even in 1985 when they were supposed to." And I don't think anyone was clamoring for "Alfred Pennyworth, World-Class Bad-Ass" either. He's the F*cking butler. There's a reason it looks stupid when Jimmy Olsen gets super-powers and tries to go on adventures like a super-hero: that's not what he's friggin' there for. Most likely, it was the studio who said, "Well, we just used Robin and Nightwing in 'Young Justice', so we CAN'T use them (because Rich TV People Logic), so let's see, that leaves... the butler. C'mon, did Batman ever team up with ANYONE else? (Flips through random pages in DC Encyclopedia) AHA! Katana! She'll be good enough for now!" I just hate when they do sh*t like that.

Prof. Pyg is one of the dumbest villains they've come up with in Batman's recent history. He's what happens when nobody has the balls to tell Grant Morrison he's done too much acid and that not ALL his ideas are f*cking brilliant. I hated his story in the comics; I'm genuinely amazed someone decided he was a strong enough villain for a TV show.

I don't know, we'll see where it goes. They'll need to start adding more well-known villains so they can sell toys, but I'm betting this still ends up being one of the "lesser" DC shows. It just feels like, "Well, we're rebooting the movies, so here's a cartoon to keep you busy. Please don't forget Batman exists." It just seems kind of... not "lazy", exactly, I don't know.

[CyberCubed]

And yet "The Batman" did everything like that, including Robin and Batgirl (with a Nightwing cameo in a future episode), and including the popular Joker, Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman, Freeze, etc.

And guess what? People disliked the show. I'm sure some of it was because it was the first new Batman show since B:TAS and the fanboys of that era didn't like the fact that there was a new Batman series on the air without Kevin Conroy or part of the DCAU.

The Batman was their attempt for an all-new Batman cartoon using the popular and iconic characters and virtually nobody cared about the show. Even Brave and the Bold was much better received for being intentionally lighter and going back to the 50's and 60's era. The Batman was probably the worst received Batman cartoon since the 90's, it makes sense that Beware the Batman is trying something different.

[Leo656]

"The Batman" just wasn't that good of a show on its own. It did suffer from being the direct follow-up series to the "classic" show, but even taken as its own and not comparing the two shows, there was just something about it that didn't sit right. Lots of dumb little changes for no reason; Joker's a barefoot hobo... why, exactly? Because he's CRAZY! Eh, I'unno. There wasn't one big reason I didn't like it a ton, just lots of little reasons. I'm not saying they didn't try - I think they aimed higher than the guys working on the new show are aiming - I don't know.

Conversely, I wanted to hate "Brave and the Bold", but it won me over. And I generally hate "goofy Batman". But somehow it turned out to be a really well-done show that probably appealed more to comic fans than anyone, because if you get nitpicky, it was probably even closer to comics' continuity than the 90s series was. It used to blow my mind how they'd work in even the most obscure heroes or villains, and I'd be all, "They're not gonna get it right", and then they actually did! They rarely just changed something to change something, for the sake of being "different", it was just "Here you are, comic book fans, the characters look like you expect them to, and guess what? That stuff you saw them do in the comics? We're not going to pretend it didn't happen and ask you to re-learn history; rather, we're going to use that stuff you read and build off of it so you feel smart when you get a joke nobody else in the room gets, because you remember that obscure reference we just slipped in." I wish they'd do a "serious" show with that much enthusiasm. It really shouldn't have been as good as it was.

If they're hell-bent on being different, they could always move the story forward a bit and pick up a story from the comics a few years back where Batman was presumed dead and Nightwing, Robin, and Jason Todd all tried to assume the mantle. You could do an entire series around that; start off with Batman presumed "dead" (you could make up a reason or just leave it a mystery, something to maybe be revealed later on in the series), and you could do single episodes or 2-3 part arcs focusing more on either Dick, Tim or Jason, and eventually weave them tightly together into one story as the "Battle For The Cowl", as it was called in the comics, until Dick becomes Batman at the end of Season 1. Season 2 would be about him fully stepping into the role, taking on more of the "bigger" villains and Jason as the Red Hood, until Bruce comes back late in the season or near the end of the series. Call it "Legends of Batman", or something, since it'd be more about the role or the idea of Batman than just Bruce specifically.

It would be the best of everything, you're literally changing everything while at the same time keeping it familiar enough to what everyone knows. You get to use new villains, keep old ones, and play with everyone's expectations while not making it unfamiliar. Kinda sounds like Batman Beyond, but I'd be far more interested in the kind of show I described. I didn't dig Beyond as much as a lot of people did, it was good but I felt they moved things too far ahead and in doing so had to give up a lot of the more familiar trappings of the franchise. I also had a hard time with Bruce in basically the "sidekick" role. Having him be out of sight for most of the series would free up his successors to try and become their "own" version of Batman, and part of the fun would be in seeing how each one would choose, what each of them sees as "being Batman" rather than what Bruce specifically has them do (and of course, seeing Jason slowly lose what's left of his sanity by coming to realize he's just about the worst kind of person and has to be a villain).

You could play with the symbolism and the expectations of what Batman is "supposed" to be, while exploring how everyone sees him and what he means to different people. There's a ton of neat stuff they could do; that's a "new and different" Batman show I'd be much more interested in watching. I mean, since it's a comic story they'd likely never do it, but that's the kind of circular logic that fuels these kinds of shows and their development: they ostensibly make these shows more for comics fans, but are afraid to stay too faithful to the source material at the risk of being "predictable". Ideally, they would use the freedom of animation as an art form to take those 2D stories and make them even bigger, without feeling like they had to just change things for the sake of change. That's what makes the DC animated movies so great; they're 8 or 9/10s from the book and they just pump it up a little bit. I like that approach, and wish Hollywood would get the hint, while they're at it.

[Allio]

Season 2 will bring old characters back. People are kidding themselves if they don't think Joker and Robin will show up eventually. These villains won't sell toys, that's the important thing.

unless you have statistics to back up that "fact"

[CyberCubed]

unless you have statistics to back up that "fact"

Every Batman show is made to sell toys, obscure villains might sell but nowhere as much as a Joker toy sells for example.

[ToTheNines]

Watched it and enjoyed it for the most part. Certainly won't be tuning in religiously though.

I have to agree with 656 on a lot of points though. I mean, the fact that they're using garbage like Prof. Pyg from the Morrison run, and then leaving stuff out like Damian is crazy. The fact that Robin's not in this at all is crazy. I understand Dick and Barbara have had their time in the spot light, but there are so many other Robins or Batgirls they could have used instead of Katana.

Anyways, I'm gonna quit ranting while I can. I loved the CGI, the action was great, and the designs were neat for the most part. Hopefully we get some good stories out of this show :)

[Leo656]

ToTheNines: "Leo" is fine. "I am not a number! I am a free man!" :lol:

Collector's might want Pyg since, as far as I'm aware, he hasn't had a figure yet in any other form (please correct me if I'm wrong). And maybe some kids. He's just not the greatest villain they could have picked if they had to use a "different" villain for this new show; In fact, going strictly by the timeline of when he was created for the books and when they probably started doing concept work for the show, Pyg could only have been used in maybe two different stories in the comics when they decided he would be the "heavy" of this show. He hasn't really even been established as that big a deal, villain-wise; I think it was a bit premature to try and make him a "big-shot".

Might move a few figures, though. He has an interesting enough look. To clarify, I don't think he was the worst idea or villain ever, but he was definitely a weaker creation fueled by Morrison-Mania back in the late-2000s when everyone thought he was brilliant and flawless. True Story: I both "got" and really liked "Batman: R.I.P." AND Final Crisis. But there are tons of other examples of stories where Morrison really needed someone to say "Sir, put down your LSD and step away from the laptop before anyone gets hurt or you have a f*cking ANGEL FROM HEAVEN join the g*ddamn Justice League. Nobody wants either of those things to happen, so let's go someplace quiet and talk about this." :lol:

[sdp]

Its using new villains never seen in animation before, how is that old territory? Not to mention a younger and more active Alfred and Katana.
I like new villains, though the ones this saturday didn't exactly set my world on fire. And like I said I'm not too crazy about some of the changes like MI6 alfred or Katana. We're treading old territory by having another "young" batman show where he is early in his career, and overall the mood of the show seems to be BTAS-lite. All of these things were already done by The Batman, Now like I said it's way too early to judge but that's my first impression.

The Batman started very similar, trying to differentiate itself from BTAS by having radical new takes on characters, new villains and by being a "young" Batman. So yeah, Katana and MI6 Alfred change it up a little but not enough for me, especially since I don't like the changes. It made me feel like it was a badly written BTAS episode. When they promised us something that hadn't been done before I expected a more mature Batman where the Batfamily is already out and about.

This show is also supposed to be more serialized (like The Batman) but people didn't like The Batman, personally I liked it a lot. All the complaining got the producers to start using more well known villains, adding Robin etc. And I feel it's going to be the same here, people will complain until we see more Bat villains and see the same things happen again, hell all of these things happened to BATB too (adding familiar bat villains/robin). I love Dick but there's only so many times I can watch his origin and his transition to Nightwing. And sadly that's probably where the show will probably end up doing by the third season.

[CyberCubed]

I could see Dick showing up around Season 3 of the show.

[TurtleTitan97]

I thought the first episode was alright. Look forward to the next episode.

[Garfield]

I like that they are using lesser known villains, we've had so many Batman cartoons in the past that handled a certain standard of and its nice to get away from the status quo, Here is the opportunity for them to try new things and new concepts.

[Zany Orange Dude]

I could see Dick showing up around Season 3 of the show.

That would make me so happy if he did.

[sdp]

I hope they take the show in interesting directions, you know this would be a great show to do time jumps, and see the batman family evolve.

I like that they are using lesser known villains we've had so many Batman cartoons in the past that handled a certain ttandard of and its nice to get away from the status quo, Here is the opportunity for new things and new concepts.
Umm...The Batman and BTBATB also tried to stay away from status quo.

That would make me so happy if he did.

So we can see Robin AGAIN, he's my favorite character but we've seen him in pretty much every Batman cartoon so far not including as a main character Teen Titans/Young Justice..

[Garfield]

Umm...The Batman and BTBATB also tried to stay away from status quo.




Umm...sure.

[Coola Yagami]

Batman TBATB had NO status quo.... it was him teaming up with some random DC hero every episode. We BARELY saw him with Robin and Batgirl.. and Robin became Nightwing rather quickly.

[Zany Orange Dude]

So we can see Robin AGAIN, he's my favorite character but we've seen him in pretty much every Batman cartoon so far not including as a main character Teen Titans/Young Justice..

I see your point and Robin (Dick Grayson) is my favorite character as well.

[Coola Yagami]

What can I say? The first episode bored the hell out of me. Pyg just wasn't meant for saturday morning. I'm not saying he was an awesome villain, but he wasn't lame either. He was just too sick and disturbing... so what did they do? Make a completely different character, slap a pig mask on him and call him Professor Pyg. Lame.

http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2013/07/beware-batman-episode-1-hunted.html

The second episode was a lot better. Magpie was just a much more interesting villain and I hope she eventually returns in the New 52 but with the new design.

http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2013/07/beware-batman-episode-2-secrets.html

The differences like Alfred and such don't bother me that much. We knew about this since before Dark Knight Rises, so I had lots of time to mentally prepare myself for MI6 Alfred and Katana.

[oldmanwinters]

I liked this episode. Good to see Gordon & Babs officially in the mix now.

[Zany Orange Dude]

I liked this episode. Good to see Gordon & Babs officially in the mix now.

I agree. I can't wait to see Gordon and Batman's relationship develop over the course of the show.:)

[sdp]

I liked the new episode more than last weeks but I still get a huge BTAS-lite/The Batman vibes from it, and it's because they're treading the same ground, they had promised us a new take and we aren't really seeing it. That's why I wanted an experience Batman with a Batfamily already formed, that's something we've never seen, we always get to it in animated form but at the end of the show and we never explore it. Or truly a "Year One" batman.

In BTAS, he had already been Batman for a while but he was still "new" and met his villains for the first time, and that worked great. The Batman was billed as just starting but we see in the first episode that is his third year, so not entirely new, just newish like BTAS, BATB also similar, he looked like an experienced Batman but we see him and his Batfamily grow so obviously it's not a very old Batman either... Young Justice was also stated to be an "Young DC Universe" so there goes that Batman as well and htis one billed again as a Batman that is just starting out but as we've seen he's already been Batman for a while.

Gordon not starting as commissionaire and Barbara as a teenager? I love the idea but it's exactly what happened in The Batman, we didn't see it enough in The Batman so I'm ok with seeing it again but nothing new.

New villains? Like I've mentioned The Batman used new villains and new takes on older villains. BATB also tried to use new villains. Both shows ended up going back to the traditional Batman villains. This shows new villains? Professor pyg didn't impress me but we'll see if he can become a favorite. The new girl well..what can I say, I kept thinking she acted just like Catwoman, she tried to flirt with Batman, she wanted shiny objects, clawed her oponents...sure she had a bird motif but she might as well been Catwoman. And her origin was trying to be dark but didn't quite get there so it feels like The Batman did in S4, "BTAS-lite".

I'm not hating the show but it's not setting me on fire either, because it's more of the same we've already seen. I hope this changes.

[CyberCubed]

Magpie was like a prostitute version of Catwoman with Two Face's split personality.

[TurtleTitan97]

I really liked the new episode, I thought Magpie was pretty cool. Glad to hear Tara Strong voicing Barbara Gordon again.

[Raph's Girl]

Magpie was like a prostitute version of Catwoman with Two Face's split personality.

I was thinking the same thing. At first I was thinking the Psychiatrist lady was Magpie. Didn't expect it to be her secretary.

Oh and nice to see Barbara in this show. Also, interesting that Jim Gordon and Batsy aren't BFF's yet.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Wait, Gordon mentioned Pyg and Toad, and Alfred mentioned his damaged leg. Hooray for Continuity!

[sdp]

They mentioned the show would be more serialized unlike past Batman shows, which is kind of a lie since The Batman did have story arcs, at least as much as this Batman show has. I hope the show goes more with the crazy ideas rather than the normal bath mythos like I've speculated will probably happen. Looking back and my favorite episodes of The Batman are all the ones that were very different from past Batman shows. Ethan/Clayface/Ellen Yin etc. Sure there were some misses but it more than made up by having a fresh take. Later it became BTAS-lite and JLU-lite.

I would indeed like to see other heroes in this continuity, they have Green Lantern's CG model already, sure the show was cancelled but they can easily put him in there.

[CyberCubed]

I wonder how long it'll take till a popular Batman villain shows up. I'm still betting on Joker debuting in the Season finale at least.

[Wildcat]

Magpie had huge boobs lol just saying.

How did she survive the fall off the building? She has split personalities...and doesn't feel pain? Even so no human would survive that.

[CyberCubed]

I was surprised at Magpie's design for a kids show. She was literally in prostitute/porn clothing and the camera constantly gave us close-ups of her boobs and butt.

Seriously, I thought I was watching some crappy anime that does this at points. Of course the ugly CG animation made her as unappealing as possible.

[NinjaPug]

Anarky playing the 'agent of chaos' reminded me of The Joker from TDK. Not a bad episode but nothing special either. After reading about their panel from SDCC it sounds like Anarky is going to be the main villain through the first 26 episodes. Also looks like we'll be getting ManBat and possibly The Riddler this season. The producers were pretty adamant that they won't use Joker or Robin anytime soon.

[Raph's Girl]

Also looks like we'll be getting ManBat and possibly The Riddler this season. The producers were pretty adamant that they won't use Joker or Robin anytime soon.

The Riddler? U sure about that? All they said was that in the 2nd half of the season they'd introduce a familiar foe who's name has a D in it. That could be Riddler, Mad Hatter, or Harvey Dent. :P

Also it seems Metamorpho will be appearing in the show soon voiced by Adam Baldwin.

[Ninjinister]

Show's startin' to grow on me now. That's good.

I was surprised at Magpie's design for a kids show. She was literally in prostitute/porn clothing and the camera constantly gave us close-ups of her boobs and butt.


I'm guessing you've never seen a prostitute or porn.

[NinjaPug]

The Riddler? U sure about that? All they said was that in the 2nd half of the season they'd introduce a familiar foe who's name has a D in it. That could be Riddler, Mad Hatter, or Harvey Dent. :P

Also it seems Metamorpho will be appearing in the show soon voiced by Adam Baldwin.

That's why I said possibly the Riddler

People are guessing Riddler because of the 'D' comment and the fact that an upcoming episode is called 'Enigma' - again nothing has been confirmed just people making an educated guess.

[CyberCubed]

I've honestly been kinda bored with this show. I've watched every episode so far and it just isn't clicking. I don't even mind the CG, its just that the stories aren't very exciting and the show doesn't have much depth.

When Young Justice started I was hooked right from the start, but this one I'm like, "Eh, ok." and that's it.

The show isn't bad, but its nothing great. Forgettable.

[Wildcat]

There has only been 5 episodes. Its way too soon for something to "click".

First few weren't very exciting to me either but the last two where they break into the mansion and humpty dumpty is introduced were quite good imo.

[Davetello]

I've honestly been kinda bored with this show. I've watched every episode so far and it just isn't clicking. I don't even mind the CG, its just that the stories aren't very exciting and the show doesn't have much depth.

When Young Justice started I was hooked right from the start, but this one I'm like, "Eh, ok." and that's it.

The show isn't bad, but its nothing great. Forgettable.

Really? I've watched the first three episodes and it's nowhere near as **** as I was expecting. In fact, I quite liked it.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Am I the only one who strongly dislikes the look of the show?

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I find it amazing that alot of people judge a show after 1 episode. I usually give a show about 10 episodes before deciding if I wanna continue following it.

Im not sure what any of you expected the opener to be. First episodes are usually generic anyway and are used more to introduce the theme of things.

I know Im in a minority when I say I did not like Animated Series. The tone, art and characters were great but what bothered me was Batman over came things way too easy. Even in the most specific circumstances he had a quick answer for it. Whats the term for this...Deuce Ex Machina?

Beyond and The Batman were ok from what I saw. I liked Brave an the Bold but I got into it too late and then it ended shortly after.

You are the first person I heard that dislikes The Animated Series. I don't know anyone else who does.

[Cure]

You are the first person I heard that dislikes The Animated Series. I don't know anyone else who does.

I can see it. That series had a reeeeeeal slow start. It didn't really get good until the later seasons. The New Batman Adventures or whatever.

[Peanut]

You are the first person I heard that dislikes The Animated Series. I don't know anyone else who does.

I loathe it. Now you know two!

[NinjaPug]

I just read that Greg Weisman wrote an upcoming episode of Beware the Batman. Not sure which one but I'm definitely looking forward to it.

[CyberCubed]

B:TAS was almost consistently excellent, its only flaws is the somewhat dated 90's animation at the beginning. Until they make another Batman cartoon that surpasses it, it'll always be known as the best Batman cartoon.

I've noticed that every new Batman cartoon since then has to use gimmicks or some different, "hook" so it doesn't remain under B:TAS shadow:

- The Batman used more outlandish designs for the villains, the show was more toyetic, had Batgirl before Robin, more anime-ish designs

- Brave and the Bold was intentionally lighter, campier and paid homage to old 50's and 60's era comics.

- Beware the Batman is CG, using relatively unknown villains, using Katana as a main character instead of Robin, a young Alfred, etc.


I wonder when we'll ever have a "normal" Batman cartoon again, since they keep trying to include gimmicks to differentiate these new ones.

[The Stryker]

I find BTAS unwatchable until the 4th season.

[ToTheNines]

I find BTAS unwatchable until the 4th season.

... of course.

However, it is undeniable that B:TAS had a good handful of stinkers during its run.

[CyberCubed]

I find BTAS unwatchable until the 4th season.

Considering all the best episodes happen at the beginning or middle of the show, I don't see how that's possible.

The Two-Face 2-parter and Clayface 2-parter especially are better than anything any other Batman cartoon ever did.

[Wildcat]

You are the first person I heard that dislikes The Animated Series. I don't know anyone else who does.Well I gave some examples a few pages back. Its just alot of things were overcome way too easily imo.

I dont hate it, it just really bothered me given its serious tone. In Brave and the Bold its fine cause its purposely over the top.

The Batgirl promo and the end, I though was real. I agree with people against Beware's CGI. Its so plain. If they wanted to futher mix it up they should have made the Batgirl show instead.

[Cure]

I dont hate it, it just really bothered me given its serious tone.

Yeah, same here. There were some episodes in the first few seasons that seriously felt like they were all dialogue. They just draaaaaagged. It didn't get exciting until Tim and Nightwing showed up.

[Redeemer]

B:TAS was almost consistently excellent, its only flaws is the somewhat dated 90's animation at the beginning. Until they make another Batman cartoon that surpasses it, it'll always be known as the best Batman cartoon.

I've noticed that every new Batman cartoon since then has to use gimmicks or some different, "hook" so it doesn't remain under B:TAS shadow:

- The Batman used more outlandish designs for the villains, the show was more toyetic, had Batgirl before Robin, more anime-ish designs

- Brave and the Bold was intentionally lighter, campier and paid homage to old 50's and 60's era comics.

- Beware the Batman is CG, using relatively unknown villains, using Katana as a main character instead of Robin, a young Alfred, etc.


I wonder when we'll ever have a "normal" Batman cartoon again, since they keep trying to include gimmicks to differentiate these new ones.

You forgot Batman Beyond, maybe you just haven't found something to gripe about yet? Batman Beyond is my favorite Batman. Return of The Joker UNCUT! was really good on top of that, too bad they never picked it back up....:cry:

[Cure]

You forgot Batman Beyond, maybe you just haven't found something to gripe about yet? Batman Beyond is my favorite Batman. Return of The Joker UNCUT! was really good on top of that, too bad they never picked it back up....:cry:

To be fair, his point stands with Beyond. It's Batman in the future. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[CyberCubed]

B:TAS wasn't some crazy fight scene show. Part of it was that the censors in the 90's did not like a lot of fight scenes, like the original TMNT, but also that it was based on story.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Why else did some of you not like The Animated Series, for those who haven't said why? I respect your opinion but I'm curious to know why?

[CyberCubed]

Why else did some of you not like The Animated Series, for those who haven't said why? I respect your opinion but I'm curious to know why?

I assume its because its not action-oriented but character/story oriented. Modern cartoons have fight scenes that take up half the episode, unlike the original B:TAS and TMNT which had very few fight scenes an episode.

People have been ruined by modern cartoons.

[Luigiperps]

I assume its because its not action-oriented but character/story oriented. Modern cartoons have fight scenes that take up half the episode, unlike the original B:TAS and TMNT which had very few fight scenes an episode.

People have been ruined by modern cartoons.
I love the show, I just like Brave and the Bold more. I just love the animation, the humor, all that stuff. I like humor more than dark and serious, that's just me.

[The Stryker]

I assume its because its not action-oriented but character/story oriented. Modern cartoons have fight scenes that take up half the episode, unlike the original B:TAS and TMNT which had very few fight scenes an episode.

People have been ruined by modern cartoons.

I didn't care for it back then so kiss my ass.

Why else did some of you not like The Animated Series, for those who haven't said why? I respect your opinion but I'm curious to know why?

I just found the first three seasons to be really slow and wordy with writing that couldn't support it. The dialogue wasn't good enough to support the slow parts and it really dragged everything down. The action was okay but not something I'd ever remember.

Plus a lot of it was just ugly as sin. I know it was old and they were limited but I couldn't get into it. Especially big fat Bruce Wayne and big fat Poison Ivy. I feel like they got their act together and knew what they were doing across the board in season 4. Writing, pacing, animation and design all clicked for me finally.

[CyberCubed]

Season 4 was only the last 24 episodes of the show. And at that point it pretty much just became a standard superhero show.

[ZariusTwo]

It's about time people realized Batman: TAS doesnt always live up to it's legend. I've been saying that for years. Good show when everything clicked, but it really fell to bits with some stories.

Batman Beyond, likewise, only really has one truly excellent season (the first) as well as a few select episodes from seasons two and three, ROTJ and the JLU stories going for it.

[CyberCubed]

The few duds B:TAS has doesn't matter since the shows that followed it had more bad eps than good ones. Excluding Brave and the Bold which was fun.

Beware the Batman isn't much better than The Batman, which generally wavered between below average to average episodes. That show didn't get good till Season 4 when Robin came.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I like TAS but to each his own. I guess I'm just a fan of comic book adapted cartoons.

Beware the Batman is actually getting better with each new episode, imo. Compared to Nick's TMNT, I think the human character models are slightly better. And the recent episode that just came on today was actually interesting.

[CyberCubed]

I'm rewatching B:TAS right now and the only eps I don't care for was that "Underdwellers" episode with the kids being kidnapped and the other one with the homeless people being captured....they were almost the same episode too with different characters.

Beware the Batman has the same problem as The Batman did. The potential is there, but so far it isn't reaching it. Brave and the Bold was really excellent so I don't know why these other two have fallen short.

[TurtleTitan97]

Beware the Batman is actually getting better with each new episode, imo.

I agree, I really enjoyed the new episode. This is quickly becoming one of my favorite DC animated series.

[ZariusTwo]

The Batman is itself an underrated show, sure it's a bit more flippant and real Saturday morning sugar rush quality, but it has a few deep episodes scattered amongst it's run. Best seasons are two and four

[CyberCubed]

I've lost interest in this show, and knowing CN they'll cancel it after its 26 episode order anyway.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Your lost because I for one think the show's writing is actually pretty good. On par with TAS, imo.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I've lost interest in this show, and knowing CN they'll cancel it after its 26 episode order anyway.

Same, think of it compared to young justice:roll:

[blindturtle02]

It looks pretty good. I watched the first episode but I'm not sure if I want to invest in this since every awesome animated series I've watched over the past few years gets canceled seemingly from out of nowhere. I think I'll wait around and see if it lasts a few seasons before watching. lol I seriously think I've developed a cancelation phobia.

[CyberCubed]

Your lost because I for one think the show's writing is actually pretty good. On par with TAS, imo.

I've seen every episode so far and it is nowhere as good as B:TAS or Young Justice. I don't mind the CG, it's just the actual storytelling and characterization isn't great. None of the villains have impressed me so far either, they all feel one dimensional.

[CyberCubed]

Of the others I've only seen The Batman and it might be better than the early seasons of that. The Batman didn't get good till Season 4 as it was a mixed bag before hand.

I saw very few episodes of brave and the bold, but since that was a lighthearted show with a less dark batman you can't really compare it.

[NinjaPug]

CN is at it again. They've pulled the scheduled new episodes on 10/26 and 11/2 for repeats of TTG. No new air dates have been revealed.

[CyberCubed]

CN is at it again. They've pulled the scheduled new episodes on 10/26 and 11/2 for repeats of TTG. No new air dates have been revealed.

LOL, I bet CN is ready to pull the plug on this show after the 26 episodes air.

No toyline hurt this show from the start.

I'm fully expecting a new Batman cartoon based on the Batman/Superman in 2015...with some kind of Batman/Superman teamup cartoon.

[sdp]

Funny just what 2 years ago or so CN announced this awesome new priority on DC properties and giving them their own block and we had plenty to look forward to from YJ/GL and upcoming Batman and TT show and DC shorts. Who knows what happened between that announcement and when it finally started since it all went to hell, everything is pretty much cancelled. Now we'll look back to the times before DC Nation as better...

This same thing happened a few years ago when it seemed Action cartoons were making a full comeback with Thundercats/TMNT/YJ/DC shows/Marvel shows and whatnot, all the upcoming stuff pretty much got cancelled or replaced with crappier versions. Looks like the 00's, were indeed a golden time despite all the anime dubs.

[CyberCubed]

Over at toonzone people are already saying they think the show will be canceled. They're probably right.

A CG Batman show with no recognizable iconic villains, a weird Alfred, Katana, and no toyline was bound to fail

CN will air the remaining 26 episodes of Season 1 but I doubt they'll order any new eps beyond that.

[ToTheNines]

I didn't follow this show at all, but Cartoon Network ****ing disgusts me the way they handle their programs, particularly DC cartoons these days. I'll never support another Cartoon Network show again.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

They did do a McDonalds' Happy Meal toy line for the show but that's all I know.

And while the lack of familiar villains and Robin are a downside, the story and writing make up for it. It's dark Batman like you want it, just in CG. You could be too used to familiar characters to enjoy it.

[CyberCubed]

There was no toyline for this show, it was doomed to fail.

[NinjaPug]

I don't understand. If a show's success is tied to its related toy line, why wouldnt they have a toyline with this show? I hate Cartoon Network so much now.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

There was no toyline for this show, it was doomed to fail.

It will if it continues, don't jump to conclusions. This show is only 4 months old.

[Jester]

It will if it continues, don't jump to conclusions. This show is only 4 months old.
Not that i disagree with you, I totally don't, but have you read CyberCubed's posts? He's the king of conclusions jumping. He makes it an Olympic sport...

[CyberCubed]

The shows producers have already said its getting a little late for CN to give them the Ok to make a second season.

[Brodie]

As much as everyone likes to point out CyberCubed jumping to conclusions, he's right about one thing...The show didn't have a toyline, which tends to lead to show failures for whatever reason.

Similarly, the toys for Young Justice were too expensive and generally junk, so they didn't sell. The toylines failure helped lead to, in however a roundabout way, the cancellation.

That's not saying a cartoon needs a toyline to work, but that tends to be how CN rolls. I'm surprised they even greenlit the show if they didn't have a toyline planned. (The only toy aside from the McDonalds line was in the DCUClassics Batman line, alongside a Dark Knight Returns Batman, and a Batman from an almost M rated game. Not to mention the figures cost ~$16-$22.)

[PApagreg]

Oh by the way guys Beware The Batman is on break until January so its pretty much cancelled

[LeotheLateBloomer]

It can't be cancelled if it's on break. -_-

[Redeemer]

It can't be cancelled if it's on break. -_-

They said that about young justice as well

[Brodie]

It can't be cancelled if it's on break. -_-

Oh, you mean like Thundercats, Green Lantern and YJ.

[PApagreg]

It can't be cancelled if it's on break. -_-

Accept it man the show had potential but CN basically put a bullet in its skull when thay said it was on break

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Well if that's the case, I hope to see what the next Batman show will turn out.

[PApagreg]

Well if that's the case, I hope to see what the next Batman show will turn out.

How about no Batman show for the next 7 yrs, seriously its Batman this and Batman that. I'm tired of f##########ing Batman, I mean would it kill DC to give us a Aquaman, Wonder Woman, OR SUPERMAN cartoon. For gods sake Animal Man is a pretty good character with a nice supporting cast I would't mind seeing him. Its a problem with both Marvel and DC animation its A listers and A listers And A listers AGAIN

[ZariusTwo]

I've heard there's a new JL cartoon being made, but it's to be based off the New 52 comics. BTB could be being bumped and slowly killed to make room for that since CN probably thinks it fillls the needs of an ensemble show and gets to show off more of the established DC heroes

[Leo656]

I mean would it kill DC to give us a Aquaman, Wonder Woman, OR SUPERMAN cartoon.

Actually, yes, I'm pretty sure an Aquaman cartoon would be responsible for at least one suicide, and untold amounts of suffering besides.

I'd get behind a Superman or Wonder Woman cartoon, though. I agree with others that a new Justice League show looks more likely.

And yeah, for all the crap he gets (and talks), CC is right on the money sometimes. I'd say this show is done. It was "too different" to succeed, especially without a toyline. People can call it predictable, but comic fans tend to like a little predictability. All the biggest-selling comics of the past 15 years were either rehashes or updates of stuff from the 70s, and the cartoons people most love and remember like Batman: TAS and Justice League/JLU were about 8/10s comics accurate. Seems like with DC cartoons, at least, the farther away from the "predictable" comic stories and characters it gets, the less successful the show in turn becomes.

People want the stuff they know, just amped up a little. No matter what anyone says, human beings by and large are hard-wired to not like change. Especially, like in this show, it was just change for change's sake and didn't make anything "better" in any way.

I'd be looking forward to whatever they come up with next, but it'll just be more CGI and I'm beyond sick of that mess. I'm not sure I'll bother checking out any more of these shows. We'll see.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

How about no Batman show for the next 7 yrs, seriously its Batman this and Batman that. I'm tired of f##########ing Batman, I mean would it kill DC to give us a Aquaman, Wonder Woman, OR SUPERMAN cartoon. For gods sake Animal Man is a pretty good character with a nice supporting cast I would't mind seeing him. Its a problem with both Marvel and DC animation its A listers and A listers And A listers AGAIN

I agree. I've been waiting the longest time for DC to do another Superman cartoon. Heck, a Superman game by Rocksteady would be nice as well.

[CyberCubed]

Batman gets cartoons because he sells.

Why do you think there's been no Superman cartoon since S:TAS? We do get team-based shows like Teen Titans and Young Justice...but other than that its all Batman.

And when they make a show about another superhero like Green Lantern it completely bombs.

[Luigiperps]

I've got an idea!!!! Nightwing!!!!!!! I'm kinda biased, though.:tanime:

[CyberCubed]

So the shows writers/animators have been posting tweets saying they're moving on from the show or WB, they're posted on toonzone.

With the staff moving on its pretty obvious its not getting another season.

[TurtleTitan97]

Darn it, that's a real shame. I really felt like this show was getting better with each new episode.:(

First Young Justice, then Green Lantern, now Batman. If DC keeps on canceling their good shows this early in their run, their gonna end up like Marvel.

[BabyTurtles]

There was no toyline for this show, it was doomed to fail.

then how come Legend of Korra hasn't failed?

I don't think it has a toyline....:-?

[Redeemer]

Darn it, that's a real shame. I really felt like this show was getting better with each new episode.:(

First Young Justice, then Green Lantern, now Batman. If DC keeps on canceling their good shows this early in their run, their gonna end up like Marvel.

Its not DC cancelling the shows its CN

[LeotheLateBloomer]

So the shows writers/animators have been posting tweets saying they're moving on from the show or WB, they're posted on toonzone.

With the staff moving on its pretty obvious its not getting another season.

Link, please?

[CyberCubed]

Its a few posts down:

http://www.toonzone.net/forums/dc-animation-forum/309971-beware-batman-news-discussion-thread-part-4-spoilers.html#.UmyToBCQO24

[Coola Yagami]

Its a few posts down:

http://www.toonzone.net/forums/dc-animation-forum/309971-beware-batman-news-discussion-thread-part-4-spoilers.html#.UmyToBCQO24

Such a shame, and they just released their first issue of the tie-in comicbook.

[CyberCubed]

No surprise this show bombed:

- Ugly CG visuals

- D-list villains. Whatever gave them the impression that a Batman show could survive off characters like Magpie and Silver Monkey over Joker/Riddler/Penguin/Catwoman, etc. is beyond me. And others like Professor Pyg are too dumbed down from their comic counterparts.

- No Robin and instead using the relatively unknown Katana as a sidekick was a stupid idea.

- No toyline bombed the show from the start

- Its yet another Batman cartoon, and the show didn't catch on with kids like Brave and the Bold did

[LeotheLateBloomer]

For your second and third reasons, I think maybe you're being a little too nostalgic.

[PApagreg]

[QUOTE=LeotheLateBloomer;1173001]For your second and third reasons, I think maybe you're being a little too nostalgic.[/QU

I think they were sort of forced to use lesser known batman villians, I mean if I see the Joker on the T.V screen I will scoop my eyeballs out. I mean he is a good character but you can do so much even with Joker until he becomes stale

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Very True. With there being so many popular Batman villians, others could have a chance to shine and maybe make their way into other Batman media.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

For your second and third reasons, I think maybe you're being a little too nostalgic.[/QU

I think they were sort of forced to use lesser known batman villians, I mean if I see the Joker on the T.V screen I will scoop my eyeballs out. I mean he is a good character but you can do so much even with Joker until he becomes stale

That is very true. I want to see Hush as a villain in a Batman TV show.

[Redeemer]

No surprise this show bombed:

- Ugly CG visuals

- D-list villains. Whatever gave them the impression that a Batman show could survive off characters like Magpie and Silver Monkey over Joker/Riddler/Penguin/Catwoman, etc. is beyond me. And others like Professor Pyg are too dumbed down from their comic counterparts.

- No Robin and instead using the relatively unknown Katana as a sidekick was a stupid idea.

- No toyline bombed the show from the start

- Its yet another Batman cartoon, and the show didn't catch on with kids like Brave and the Bold did

Lol except for the cg this is exactly why batman beyond was so terrible and bombed oh wait!!! It didn't :lol:

just poking at you Cyber.

[oldmanwinters]

DC Nation has become such a tease.

[PApagreg]

DC Nation has become such a tease.

Tell me about it, as of now I would prefer it ro be a full time show with shorts sort of like MAD but good

[Raven]

Any one that wanted to see the final few episodes may finally have a chance now.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/291257-beware-the-batman-season-1-part-1-available-on-dvd-next-week

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I'll be sure to check it out once it releases. Just to see where else the series going in. Hopefully, they will release a Part 2.

[sdp]

Well once all 26 episodes are released I think I'll enjoy watching this fun take on the franchise. I watched the first two episodes and they didn't excite me but seeing it as a failed attempt it gives it more appeal to me, because it wasn't that bad either. Who knows, maybe the show does get better.

This show was truly sent to die though, it's almost as if they realized they made a mistake halfway through its development and they didn't want to cut their losses. I wonder what DC will show on SDCC though, it has to be something big if they ever want to have excitement over their animated projects after how they've handled them the past few years.

[Raph's Girl]

Just a heads up that the show is now airing in New Zealand. Up to episode 17 has aired so far.

Apparantly if DVD sales for volume 1 (which is up to episode 13) don't go well in the states then the final 13 episodes will NEVER air on tv in the U.S. So yeah...aint that swell. :ohwell:

[ObiWanFan4life]

Just a heads up that the show is now airing in New Zealand. Up to episode 17 has aired so far.

Apparantly if DVD sales for volume 1 (which is up to episode 13) don't go well in the states then the final 13 episodes will NEVER air on tv in the U.S. So yeah...aint that swell. :ohwell:

Lucky for them.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

From what I've read, Harvey Dent appears in one of the latest episodes. I've been trying to look him up to see what he looks like in the show but found nothing. I guess after seeing that Rahs Al Ghul was in it, they seem to be loosening up on the whole 'focus of lesser known villains' rule.

[Raph's Girl]

From what I've read, Harvey Dent appears in one of the latest episodes. I've been trying to look him up to see what he looks like in the show but found nothing. I guess after seeing that Rahs Al Ghul was in it, they seem to be loosening up on the whole 'focus of lesser known villains' rule.

This is Harvey Dent. It's from episode 16:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Dierna/Screen%20Shots%20and%20Promo%20images/HarveyDentBTB_zpse1e1b424.jpg

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Wow, he looks pretty good. I really hope they continue this show. It seems like they are now starting to add in familiar villains.

[MikeandRaph87]

Whatever happened to the show is it cancelled? I heard at my LCS that the show stopped airring and that the comic tie in got cancelled only half a dozen issues in. Cartoon Network ever since the days of Justice League does not handle its DC heroes related show very well as far as advertising and appropriate time slots.

[rickwj324]

I finished the blu-ray of season 1 part 1 and if it ends that way for us (ep 13), I'll be majorly p.o.'d!! If other eps are airing in different parts of the world at least give it to us on blu/dvd if you aren't going to air it.

[Raph's Girl]

Whatever happened to the show is it cancelled? I heard at my LCS that the show stopped airring and that the comic tie in got cancelled only half a dozen issues in. Cartoon Network ever since the days of Justice League does not handle its DC heroes related show very well as far as advertising and appropriate time slots.

The show is essentially cancelled and finishing up its run in New Zealand (up to episode 17 has aired). It is not on the schedule of returning shows for Cartoon Network in the U.S.

[sdp]

I'd really like to hear what happened behind the scenes of this show. It was announced what years before it came out, when BATB was still being worked on its final season. TDKR theater shooting changed some aspects of the show. CN announced DC Nation and it looked like DC shows would be getting a great treatment. YJ and GL were also cancelled but their fate wasn't as bad as BTWB, it wasn't even given a chance.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

This potentially could have been one of the best Batman cartoons since the animated series. I don't want to say this around Batman fans but is there anyone who likes a version of Batman more than TAS?

[CyberCubed]

No. The best version of Batman since B:TAS was the one from Young Justice, and we barely saw that one do anything.

Brave and the Bold Batman was awesome but I'm not counting that among the modern-style Batman.

[ZariusTwo]

This potentially could have been one of the best Batman cartoons since the animated series. I don't want to say this around Batman fans but is there anyone who likes a version of Batman more than TAS?

Brave and the Bold is very well received as Cubed says, but that's only if you love the high camp silver age throwback material.

[NinjaPug]

“Beware The Batman” Joins Toonami Line-Up Starting Saturday, May 10th, 2014
APRIL 16, 2014 BY JIM HARVEY

A representative for Cartoon Network has confirmed that Beware The Batman will return to Cartoon Network as part of the weekly Toonami programming block starting May 2014. The CG-animated series is set to debut on the popular fan-favorite block on Saturday May 10th, 2014 at 3:00am (ET/PT). It will take the place of Ghost in the Shell on the schedule.

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/2014/04/beware-the-batman-joins-toonami-line-up-starting-saturday-may-10th-2014/

[Raph's Girl]

A representative for Cartoon Network has confirmed that Beware The Batman will return to Cartoon Network as part of the weekly Toonami programming block starting May 2014. The CG-animated series is set to debut on the popular fan-favorite block on Saturday May 10th, 2014 at 3:00am (ET/PT). It will take the place of Ghost in the Shell on the schedule.

Well at least the series will finish up its run in the U.S.!! Sure the eps will be airing at 3am...but at least all 26 eps will air!

[NinjaPug]

The 2nd half episode descriptions sound really good too:

Man-Bat, Killer Croc, Deathstroke, Two Face

[CyberCubed]

LMAO they bring back the series to air it at 3am? Wow they must really hate the show. HAHA.

[MikeandRaph87]

The show is cancelled and droping the rest of the to be aired episodes at 3:30 in the morning? A good number of potential viewership will not get this memo to set the DVR! I thought having Justice League air at 11PM unadvertised at its end was a dumb move.:trazz:

[CyberCubed]

Beware the Batman will go down in history as the only Batman cartoon that ever failed.

[Raph's Girl]

Just a heads up for those in the UK. Episode 18 is available on Amazon UK. Has the first 17 aired in the UK?? I know they've aired in New Zealand....

[LeotheLateBloomer]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/2014/04/beware-the-batman-joins-toonami-line-up-starting-saturday-may-10th-2014/

It looks like CN will be bringing back the show on Toonami in May. YAY!:D

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/2014/04/beware-the-batman-joins-toonami-line-up-starting-saturday-may-10th-2014/

It looks like CN will be bringing back the show on Toonami in May. YAY!:D

So I'm guessing this means that the show isn't cancelled after all?

[ZariusTwo]

So I'm guessing this means that the show isn't cancelled after all?

No, it's done, they're just burning off the episodes in a different time slot

[Redeemer]

This potentially could have been one of the best Batman cartoons since the animated series. I don't want to say this around Batman fans but is there anyone who likes a version of Batman more than TAS?

You are a brave man to say that :lol:
This show was a flop from the start.
Poor villain selection
Poor art design
Poor advertising

Young Justice was cancelled for this????? I mean really???? I wish they would just bring back Young Justice.

[Cure]

Young Justice was cancelled for this????? I mean really????

No, not really. Nothing is ever cancelled to make room for something else, despite what the internet wants to believe. You think a company wouldn't want as many shows as it can have running at once? It's all about money, i.e., toy sales, viewership, etc.

[Brodie]

Poor villain selection


Because it didn't use the Joker?

[CyberCubed]

This show should have never existed. I don't know what they were thinking with a CG Batman show with no A-list villains, no Robin, Alfred and Katana, etc.

Most likely the next Batman cartoon will be something similar to The Batman. A more toyetic Batman cartoon with all the major villains but dumbed down so kids can enjoy it.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

No, it's done, they're just burning off the episodes in a different time slot

Ah, right. Shame

[Redeemer]

No, not really. Nothing is ever cancelled to make room for something else, despite what the internet wants to believe. You think a company wouldn't want as many shows as it can have running at once? It's all about money, i.e., toy sales, viewership, etc.
According to Paul Dini Head of the creative team DCAU claims that Young Justice specifically claims that the executives wanted a more humorous show to aim at different audience, not bc it was a failure.
http://uproxx.com/gammasquad/2013/12/paul-dini-opens-up-on-how-networks-are-getting-animation-wrong/
So, No,not really :lol:
Because it didn't use the Joker?

Professor Pyg, enough said :lol:

[Cure]

According to Paul Dini Head of the creative team DCAU claims that Young Justice specifically claims that the executives wanted a more humorous show to aim at different audience, not bc it was a failure.


...exactly. They wanted a different audience after Young Justice failed miserably. He never says the show got cancelled FOR another. And surprise surprise, he brings up toys.

[Redeemer]

...exactly. They wanted a different audience after Young Justice failed miserably. He never says the show got cancelled FOR another. And surprise surprise, he brings up toys.
Surprise, surprise I did not see the phrase "Toy line" or "Fail" in the same sentence or in the entire interview. CN never even released a statement on why the show was cancelled. According to Dini they were just trying to go in a different direction and transition to a different audience.

The only thing I can figure is they thought a show with Batman's name on it could make more money than Young Justice. I am assuming that Beware the Batman was actually a flop unlike Young Justice considering that Beware the Batman did not even finish an entire season.

[sdp]

The whole DC block is a big mystery that we won't know until some people involved start to talk about it. DC announces big projects and DC Nation and then goes on a cancelling spree, YJ, GL, BtB, BATB etc. And then they get rid of the block, the long hiatus they all had etc is too suspicious. I'm guessing there was tons of behind the scenes stuff that led to all those cancellations and terrible treatments so some executive could say "See I told you it wouldn't work".


Anyway I'm looking forward to BtB, I'll watch it when it's on Netflix eventually. I was surprised by the GL series that also didn't grab my attention at first but eventually won me over, the second part of season 1 was great, I'm glad it at least had a 26 episode run and the last 13 episodes do feel like a second season in terms of writing/what they learned worked and made for a much better second half. I think BtB could do the same, the first episodes weren't bad but I was kind of burned off by Batman and wasn't liking the direction too much but who knows. If it's anything like GL, then I can see this show leaving us wanting more when we watch the final episode.

[Redeemer]

The whole DC block is a big mystery that we won't know until some people involved start to talk about it. DC announces big projects and DC Nation and then goes on a cancelling spree, YJ, GL, BtB, BATB etc. And then they get rid of the block, the long hiatus they all had etc is too suspicious. I'm guessing there was tons of behind the scenes stuff that led to all those cancellations and terrible treatments so some executive could say "See I told you it wouldn't work".


Anyway I'm looking forward to BtB, I'll watch it when it's on Netflix eventually. I was surprised by the GL series that also didn't grab my attention at first but eventually won me over, the second part of season 1 was great, I'm glad it at least had a 26 episode run and the last 13 episodes do feel like a second season in terms of writing/what they learned worked and made for a much better second half. I think BtB could do the same, the first episodes weren't bad but I was kind of burned off by Batman and wasn't liking the direction too much but who knows. If it's anything like GL, then I can see this show leaving us wanting more when we watch the final episode.
SDP I agree completely with you. CN screwed over each and everyone of those shows and the DC nation as a whole with those bull crap Hiatus.
GL did grow on me, but YJ was the only recent cartoon show I have enjoyed.
As much as I disliked the Beware the Batman it still deserved better treatment than what it got.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Funny how they advertised this as a show that focuses more on lesser known villians and yet they're bringing in Rah's Al Ghul, Harvey Dent (who is said to turn into Two Face later), Man-Bat, Deathstroke (who's probably lesser known as a Batman villian) and Killer Croc.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

Did anyone check out the last few episodes of the season? Toonami had to burn them off because CN wrote the show off, and they also came out on DVD/Blu-Ray this week.

[NinjaPug]

Did anyone check out the last few episodes of the season? Toonami had to burn them off because CN wrote the show off, and they also came out on DVD/Blu-Ray this week.

I've got them on the DVR but haven't gotten through them all yet. I really liked the Deathstroke episode. Really excited for Dent becoming Two-Face.

[tmntpower1988]

I actually thought this show was okay. I didn't like the first few episodes and the CGI wasn't great but I thought the show did start to become more interesting. Anarky was my favourite villain in the show. Alfred felt more like a James Bond character though :lol: Wish they made another season or two. The theme song should have been longer too, thought it was a bit catchy. I just have to watch all of The Brave and the Bold now, I watched some episodes online and I like what I've seen so far, liking it more than The Batman and Beware The Batman anyway.

[Coola Yagami]

According to Paul Dini Head of the creative team DCAU claims that Young Justice specifically claims that the executives wanted a more humorous show to aim at different audience, not bc it was a failure.
http://uproxx.com/gammasquad/2013/12/paul-dini-opens-up-on-how-networks-are-getting-animation-wrong/
So, No,not really :lol:


Professor Pyg, enough said :lol:

Professor Pyg is way too dark for a kids cartoon. They even changed his whole MO just to fit this show. It's kinda weird seeing him without his Dollotrons.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

Professor Pyg is way too dark for a kids cartoon. They even changed his whole MO just to fit this show. It's kinda weird seeing him without his Dollotrons.

He was starting to evoke his comic book version by the end when he started to experiment on them. But yeah, the "animal rights" angle was weird.

[tmntpower1988]

This potentially could have been one of the best Batman cartoons since the animated series. I don't want to say this around Batman fans but is there anyone who likes a version of Batman more than TAS?

I don't know if JL/JLU counts but I liked that series much more than TAS. I don't enjoy TAS as much as I used to for some reason. I have all of the Young Justice episodes on DVD and Brave and the Bold but haven't got round to watching them yet. The Batman was okay, I did enjoy it but started to lose interest in it half way through but it did get better again. One thing that really bothered me about that show was Detective Yin's disappearance. There was no mention of what happened to her? I really liked her, she kind of reminded me of Elisa from Gargoyles a bit.