Mary Jane Watson Cut From Amazing Spider-Man 2!

[MikeandRaph87]

:( It appears after creating excitment and going to the trouble of casting and then filming scenes with the character that Mary Jane Watson was removed from Amazing Spider-Man 2! It appears that Gwen will met her inevitable demise in the sequel and Mary Jane would be there to pick up the pieces. I suspect Mary Jane is much more popular and it felt like something was missing without her and J.J.J. I am disappointed in this move and wonder if it was best "script-wise" or not. I was looking forward to moving past Gwen and to a character that is suggested to be the definitive love interest and a character I like to read in the supporting cast. Shame on Sony! Two more years before the next MJ film appearance? Atleast a tease of her, come on! Thoughts?

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/shailene-woodley-cut-amazing-spider-man-2-feels-174000385-us-weekly.html

[Candy Kappa]

I think it's the best choice to have MJ appear in the next movie, rather then having her and Peter couple up 5 minutes after Gwen's death.

[The Stryker]

Shame on Sony for not cramming a character in just because it's in the comics.

[MikeandRaph87]

Gwen and Peter have relationship trouble when he strikes a friendship with his neighbors' niece making Gwen jealous.The growing relationship will help him past Gwen when Mary Jane comes to visit him whne he returns home following the battle in which she dies at the film's end and they fall in love in 3. That was not too hard to figure out! I'm a Peter/Mary Jane shipper. Not one to care for Gwen's realtionship with Peter. If ever used its nice to see her in some other way.

Now, Spider-Man 3 craming all the character in did effect the movie's quality, but I don't see it happening by having Mary Jane introduced. I would much rather have her and J.J.J. much more compelling characters than The Dead Staceys.

[Rat A Tat]

I think I'm fine with this. Gwen is a major character and arc in early Spider-man, so I'm happy that she is getting some proper emphasis in this ASM series. There is some fantastic big screen potential here and having MJ involved could take away from that rather than enhance it.

[gobo]

Not terribly concerned. I agree that MJ is the definitive, but I have faith that the movie won't suck just because she's not there.
I think it's the best choice to have MJ appear in the next movie, rather then having her and Peter couple up 5 minutes after Gwen's death.
I think it's pretty easy for them to work around that angle, like Gwen's death being a flashback and years have gone by. Not that it matters now.

[The Stryker]

Gwen and Peter have relationship trouble when he strikes a friendship with his neighbors' niece making Gwen jealous.The growing relationship will help him past Gwen when Mary Jane comes to visit him whne he returns home following the battle in which she dies at the film's end and they fall in love in 3. That was not too hard to figure out! I'm a Peter/Mary Jane shipper. Not one to care for Gwen's realtionship with Peter. If ever used its nice to see her in some other way.

Now, Spider-Man 3 craming all the character in did effect the movie's quality, but I don't see it happening by having Mary Jane introduced. I would much rather have her and J.J.J. much more compelling characters than The Dead Staceys.

So just because you're a shipper and want to see your fanfiction on the screen, you think they should make Peter into an unlikeable prick that uses his girlfriends death to get it in with the new hotness?

Whatever man. I'd rather they keep the Gwen relationship going because it actually feels fresh. Sure it should eventually end with MJ but why rush it? Do something different for once.

[TurtleTitan97]

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[Candy Kappa]

I think it's pretty easy for them to work around that angle, like Gwen's death being a flashback and years have gone by. Not that it matters now.

true, but it seems to be unnecessary screen time, when the prime theme at the end of the movie would be Peter losing what he thinks is his one true love.

[ZariusTwo]

I'd rather they keep the Gwen relationship going because it actually feels fresh. Sure it should eventually end with MJ but why rush it? Do something different for once.

The only reason anyone ever cares about Gwen is because she has the death thing going for her. Outside of that she's a pretty "blah" character that never offered anything to the table, and that remains very much so in the ASM movie. All the drama from her comics self has been sucked out in favor of the generic "hero's star-crossed girfriend" mentality that caters to the Twilight nitwits. Having her cheat on Peter with Norman Osborn was about the best thing they ever did with her in the comics and finally shut up those prattling Gwen lovers saying how "perfect" she was. Sadly, I don't think the movies will ever be that ballsy

MJ starting out as the damaged party girl next door neighbour hasnt been properly realized in the movies before, and it would definitely feel a lot fresher to have that depicted than have Peter and Gwen go through the usual tired list of romantic cliches found in abundence in superhero movies.

[CyberCubed]

Sony already confirmed a Spider-Man 3 and 4, I'm sure we'll get plenty of MJ in the next two.

[Cure]

Great, more time for Spider-Man stuff.

[CyberCubed]

I hope to god Venom is in Movie 3 and 4 with proper buildup this time.

[Leo656]

Zarius: So it might be neater if they actually introduce MJ and have her downing whiskey shots and doing tons of blow? I don't think they're ever gonna do that. :lol: Same reason they don't want to show Iron Man fall-down drunk: you can't sell that kind of stuff to kids. And no matter who else is in the audience, anything related to super-heroes is on some level "kids' entertainment", and that's why they (over) rely on familiar tropes: In addition to being safe and acceptable, they also make tons of money for everyone involved.

It's like I was saying to someone earlier when talking about movies in general, people at large (despite what they often say) do NOT want "new" or "different" from their entertainment. It's why they watch the same movies and TV shows, with the same plots, the same characters, the same jokes, and different names, day after day, year after year; because people like what they already know they will like, and they aren't entirely willing to spend time experiencing something they're not 100% sure they will like before they even see it. They cry about "lack of creativity" or "no imagination", but across all forms of media - films, comics, TV and video games - the bottom line (read: "money") shows that people much, MUCH prefer the safe, the expected, and the familiar. It's why there are three "Hangover" movies (when really, even one of them wasn't entirely necessary) but giving Superman a kid derailed the entire franchise. "Different" = "Bad".

I'll admit, it does get a little annoying when they do it to the point that the only difference between Peter picking MJ over Gwen, or vice versa, is "one's a blonde and one's a redhead, other than that it's all the same". But that's the game.

[ZariusTwo]

I'll admit, it does get a little annoying when they do it to the point that the only difference between Peter picking MJ over Gwen, or vice versa, is "one's a blonde and one's a redhead, other than that it's all the same". But that's the game.

See, if they did MJ right that wouldnt be the case. MJ was always smarter, more insightful, and more compelling than Gwen ever could hope to be, many of the traits people praise about her from the first ASM movie were traits of MJ that they had superglued onto Gwen.

Hell Bendis made the Ultimate comics Gwen more interesting than her regular comics self by making her a hard-ass who carried knives to school and treated Peter like a little brother rather than a boyfriend. Obviously I'm sensible enough not to want that kind of Gwen depicted on screen for the sake of the kiddies, but anything other than the standard enslavement to comics lore wouldnt be a bad fit for some of these otherwise cardboard, one-dimensional ciphers of screentime who play an expected role

MJ can be a party girl without getting tipsy or sporting bad hair. Gwen can be more approachable if she werent Peter's insta-girlfriend. There are different lenses to which to see this world.

[Shark_Blade]

I like Gwen. MJ can wait for the next one.

[ZariusTwo]

I like Gwen

People also like vanilla ice cream...even if it tastes "blah"

I'd love to know what makes Little Ms. Stacy so interesting beyond the fact she dies.

[CyberCubed]

I would have preferred Gwen kept alive but with a three way relationship between her, Peter and MJ. The more the merrier.

[ZariusTwo]

I would have preferred Gwen kept alive but with a three way relationship between her, Peter and MJ. The more the merrier.

In the early comics, MJ was completly supportive of Peter and Gwen and flirted with Peter generally for a laugh, even though she loved Peter dearly in secret, it's only when Stacy dies that she really opens up to Peter in that regard.

Also, the MJ comics and Ultimate titles went that route, and Peter ultimately always ended up choosing MJ instead of Gwen in a very quick amount of time. He is not someone like Archie who is conflicted over who he wants to be with for an infinity. If he likes a girl, and a girl likes him, and he feels it's better to be with that person, he commits. Plain and simple, it's his hard-ass luck as Spidey that complicates everything and causes the drama

[Shark_Blade]

People also like vanilla ice cream...even if it tastes "blah"Your taste is blah.

I'd love to know what makes Little Ms. Stacy so interesting beyond the fact she dies.She's a good actress, even more than Kristen Dunst.

She and Andrew Garfield has perfect chemistry.

[gobo]

Your taste is blah.
Quit tasting 'Dromers, dude. Kinda creepy...

I think what you're trying to say is that it's nice to have a little change now and then. 'Bout time Gwen gets some screen-time without MJ there to hog the spotlight.

[Shark_Blade]

Quit tasting 'Dromers, dude. Kinda creepy...

I think what you're trying to say is that it's nice to have a little change now and then. 'Bout time Gwen gets some screen-time without MJ there to hog the spotlight.
Go back to school and relearn grammar dude, I didn't say "you taste". >.>

And you're just a pathetic MJ fan, rage attacking Gwen. I pity your sad life truly.

[gobo]

Geez, touchy... BTW, I ain't no MJ-fan, pathetic or otherwise... poo-brain. :tgrumble:

[Ninjinister]

Go back to school and relearn grammar dude, I didn't say "you taste". >.>

And you're just a pathetic MJ fan, rage attacking Gwen. I pity your sad life truly.

How can you tell his taste if you haven't tried to nibble on him?

Also there is nobody rage attacking in this topic; closest I see is you flinging insults unnecessarily.

Keep it up, champ.

[Leo656]

I dig it, Z. But in Jersey, where I'm from, "party girl" generally means "drinks her weight in whiskey and snorts her weight in blow". That term may mean different things in other parts of the world, though. But it's why I never thought of MJ as a "party girl", she never openly engaged in that sort of behavior and if she did I doubt Peter would want to be with her for any kind of long-term relationship.

As a kid I always just assumed Gwen's character was so one-dimensional that they gave MJ the "party girl" tag (whether it fit or not, and let's face it, it was the 60s, if the tab was accurate she'd be "powdering her nose" every third panel) just for the sake of contrast. Since she was never implied to "party" per se.

[ZariusTwo]

I dig it, Z. But in Jersey, where I'm from, "party girl" generally means "drinks her weight in whiskey and snorts her weight in blow"

The Janesey Shore:lol:

[Leo656]

:lol:

Legit, though, in NJ just the word "party" strongly suggests recreational drug use far more than simply 'having a good time in a group setting". "Do you party?", specifically, is usually an invitation for coke. It's probably like that in a lot of other places, but I don't live there, I live here, so that's all I can conclusively speak of.

Thus, when as a kid I was introduced to Mary Jane as a so-called "party girl", I more or less expected her to be the type of chick who constantly bumped rails off-panel, thus I never understood Peter's attraction to her, because those chicks are f*cking nuts... :lol: