What the hell is wrong with Warner Brothers?

[Leo656]

This might just be me needing to vent, but... why does Warner Brothers suck so bad?

I mean, they're making a new Superman movie that's coming out..... hopefully sometime before 2010. They're also making a new Batman movie that's coming out.... someday. Hopefully.

So why is it that the best actor they can come up with for either is Ashton f*cking Kutcher?!

I mean, WB was pushing hard for him to play Superman, but he turned it down. NOW they are dead-set on him being Batman. WHY? Can't they see that the guy not only CAN'T act, ISN'T funny, but has NONE of the qualities required for either character?

Does Marvel know something DC doesn't? Why is it that Marvel can hire a director, a scriptwriter, and a cast, and make a movie that takes characters I don't care about in the least (X-Men, Daredevil, The Hulk) and turns it into an enjoyable experience? And WHY is it that WB can take characters I care passionately about (Superman, Batman) and do everything in their power to SCREW THEM UP?

The rumors about Manson as Scarecrow were bad enough, but if f*cking Kelso plays Batman I will NOT see the movie, NOT buy the DVD and NOT watch it on cable unless forced to at gunpoint.

Keep an eye out for "Dude, Where's My Batcave?", apparently coming from WB some time within the next two years.

[XERO]

"Dude, Where's my Kryptonite?" :lol:

[Leo656]

Yeah I think I made a joke about that too, way back when he was under consideration to be Superman. Probably made it here, matter of fact, but I can't really remember.

Either way, Ashton Kutcher can't act.

[XERO]

Yeah I think I made a joke about that too, way back when he was under consideration to be Superman. Probably made it here, matter of fact, but I can't really remember.

Either way, Ashton Kutcher can't act.

Now that's what I call gettin' Punk'D!

[cqb101]

I think Ashton Kutcher is hilarious on that 70's show, but he can't do a serious role.

[ironhelix]

I know this might be stretching it, but keep an open mind: What if it was made with Ashton in the lead and it surprised the hell out of everyone? I know that each of us HAD to have seen a movie that we either said we would NEVER see in ANY form because "that guy" was in it, or we just weren't thrilled about it because "that guy" was in it. In either case we saw that movie one way or another and we liked it. For me, the only one I can think of was The Sum of All Fears. I doubted B.Aff because he just didn't look right for the role. But I went and saw it anyway and found out that I was wrong. I'm sure there is at least one other.

[ironhelix]

One other thing that's wrong with Warner Bros. is how they release their DVD movies. They still use the damn "Snapper" cases, as opposed to everyone else.

[Kid Icarus]

*wishes the little pucking smiliey was in the TD's list*

Oh well... this will have to work: :dead: :dead: :dead: :dead:

[Karpo_007]

They haven't done a good Batmna Movie since Batman returns, So the lead actor doesn't matter much. Still makes you wonder whats wrong with them. Batman/Bruce Wayne should be a matur and very intelligent character, Ashton Kutcher certainly does not fit to that description. Before tere were Rumours about Christian Bale being next Batman, now he would have been good choice for the role.

[ironhelix]

I would have chosen Christian Bale to be Batman, and Brendan Fraser as Superman.

[That Matt Guy]

Why don't they just get somebody like Bob Saget?

[liltimmyw]

Why don't they just get somebody like Bob Saget?

Bob Saget is the shiznit. Ashton Kutcher isn't.

[Brodie]

I think the only guy I see playing Superman is Tom Welling, but then again, I don't. I can't see that kid in tights. The only Batman I respect as Batman is Micheal Keaton, But maybe if they got some gritty looking guy....But I doubt it.

[Leo656]

Apparently the director wants Guy Pearce to be Batman but WB is dead-set on Kutcher, and you just know that they'll replace the director if they have to if it means getting what they want without a struggle.

[Karpo_007]

So they want to make it a typical teen movie.. I wish WB didn't own the Batman license.

[Leo656]

I'm starting to wish WB didn't own ANY DC licenses, period. All they care about is money, not making good movies. That's further proven by the fact that the best they can do for both Superman AND Batman is casting the hottest young teen movie actors who are clearly out of their depth, or by pushing for Keanu Reeves to play Superman when his three biggest acting roles were Speed, The Matrix, and freakin' Bill and Ted.

It's obvious that Warner Brothers has no clue whatsoever how to adapt these characters, and I'm now 100% convinced that Superman and Batman, should they ever see the light of day, will be awful.

[ironhelix]

I'm starting to wish WB didn't own ANY DC licenses, period. All they care about is money, not making good movies. That's further proven by the fact that the best they can do for both Superman AND Batman is casting the hottest young teen movie actors who are clearly out of their depth, or by pushing for Keanu Reeves to play Superman when his three biggest acting roles were Speed, The Matrix, and freakin' Bill and Ted.

It's obvious that Warner Brothers has no clue whatsoever how to adapt these characters, and I'm now 100% convinced that Superman and Batman, should they ever see the light of day, will be awful.

So you deny that Smallville is good?

[ironhelix]

I think the only guy I see playing Superman is Tom Welling, but then again, I don't. I can't see that kid in tights. The only Batman I respect as Batman is Micheal Keaton, But maybe if they got some gritty looking guy....But I doubt it.

Tom Welling would be great, but not until after Smallville is completed.

[Brodie]

Bill & Ted was his best flick. By far, totally 'Tubular.' I'm liking the way Smallville is going, with Lex and Clark. But the whole Pete Ross thing is pointless. They only have him on there because they need a black guy. Notice his 1-3 lines per episode....

[ironhelix]

Bill & Ted was his best flick. By far, totally 'Tubular.' I'm liking the way Smallville is going, with Lex and Clark. But the whole Pete Ross thing is pointless. They only have him on there because they need a black guy. Notice his 1-3 lines per episode....

1-3 lines per episode is WAY exaggerating his character. If you wanna complain about someone getting low amount of lines, Whitney from the first season is a better choice.

[ironhelix]

Bill & Ted was his best flick. By far, totally 'Tubular.' I'm liking the way Smallville is going, with Lex and Clark. But the whole Pete Ross thing is pointless. They only have him on there because they need a black guy. Notice his 1-3 lines per episode....

Bill & Ted? Who are you talking about?

[Leo656]

You never saw "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" or "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey"? Great flicks, very funny, but a big reason why some people (like me) have a hard time taking Keanu seriously as an actor.

And Smallville is good, but somehow it seems like it's good by accident. I don't get how WB can make good TV versions of these characters (like the Batman and Superman cartoons) but then do everything possible to screw them up for the big screen.

[liltimmyw]

Bill & Ted was his best flick. By far, totally 'Tubular.' I'm liking the way Smallville is going, with Lex and Clark. But the whole Pete Ross thing is pointless. They only have him on there because they need a black guy. Notice his 1-3 lines per episode....

Bill & Ted? Who are you talking about?

You've never heard of Bill & Ted? Dear Lord......

[Karpo_007]

I have never seen Bogus Jorney, but the first one is great. Still I have no problem accepting him as action Start, He proved himself in Matrix. But no, he wouldn't be a good Superman and Neither would be Tom Welling. He is way to young for that role. He is perfect for young Clark Kent tough.

[TheShredder]

And Smallville is good, but somehow it seems like it's good by accident. Good by accident!? What the hell do you mean by that!?

[cqb101]

And Smallville is good, but somehow it seems like it's good by accident. Good by accident!? What the hell do you mean by that!?

He's saying he didn't know WB could produce anything that good, so it has to be by accident.

[Leo656]

Pretty much, yeah.

It's like anything WB touches is destined to fail, like that new Looney Tunes movie, so when they actually do anything good it's like "holy sh*t".

[gobo]

In as much as I'd love to see a GL movie, I think this thread decently explains why I want it to remain just a dream. But, which one sold movie rights first anyway, Marvel or DC? Which one EXISTED first?
Hmm... I wonder how long until we see an Usagi Yojimbo movie... Since that's out of WB's grasp (since they probably wouldn't grab comic properties that aren't DC), we can rest a little easier that it may fall into CONSIDERATE hands if at all. Shiz, I think I'll just go to film school for a few years, and do this myself... Hooray for Jo... and his great idea.

[gobo]

Oh! Did anyone ever see An Evening With Kevin Smith? They had a little segment about his proposed involvement with the Superman movie with Barbara Streisand's ex-hairdressed. "Did he tell you about the giant spider?" Priceless, yo.

[Leo656]

"And then I went to see 'Wild Wild West'... and all of a sudden... f*cking giant spider shows up!"

Yeah, that DVD is hysterical :lol:

[Brodie]

Oh! Did anyone ever see An Evening With Kevin Smith? They had a little segment about his proposed involvement with the Superman movie with Barbara Streisand's ex-hairdressed. "Did he tell you about the giant spider?" Priceless, yo.

Hell yeah..

"Kal-El? Who the **** is that?"

"Tim Burton's assistant's name is Bumble Ward....Let me repeat...There is someone on this planet with the name of Bumble....Ward..."

[Raven]

Ashton Kutcher as batman my ass! :x the day he gets to play as batman is the day the F***** world is gone!

I thought it was funny when I heard george c was playing batman but this is retared!

[Dane E5R]

You all realize people said the exact same things about Michael Keaton when they first heard that he got the role..

[Karpo_007]

Actually I don't remember hearing anything like that. And just look at the guy! Maybe after 20 years he could play Batman.

[Leo656]

Some people were skeptical, mostly because Keaton was, y'know, Beetlejuice.

The difference is that Keaton is/was, you know, an ACTOR, and Kelso is just some moron who can't act, isn't funny, and has absolutely no depth whatsoever. have you ever heard him talk in real life? He sounds like the same stupid stoner he plays in every show or movie he appears in.

[Karpo_007]

Batman is very intelligent character, a Detective. Who thinks of intelligence after seeing that face? Besides that he is to young, and Like Leo said, He can't realy act. Or if he can he hasn't showed it yet. In any case he should Never be Batman. But if WB truly wants to make another bad Batman movie, they have the right to. But of course it's unfair to the character.

[ironhelix]

You never saw "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" or "Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey"? Great flicks, very funny, but a big reason why some people (like me) have a hard time taking Keanu seriously as an actor.

And Smallville is good, but somehow it seems like it's good by accident. I don't get how WB can make good TV versions of these characters (like the Batman and Superman cartoons) but then do everything possible to screw them up for the big screen.

Of course I heard of them! They were the shiznit! I asked that because somebody posted the comment "Bill & Ted was his best movie" right after my comment about Tom Welling. I was like WTF? Tom was going thru puberty when that movie came out. What makes it worse is his same paragraph continued with Smallville.

[ironhelix]

Some people were skeptical, mostly because Keaton was, y'know, Beetlejuice.

The difference is that Keaton is/was, you know, an ACTOR, and Kelso is just some moron who can't act, isn't funny, and has absolutely no depth whatsoever. have you ever heard him talk in real life? He sounds like the same stupid stoner he plays in every show or movie he appears in.

Not only that, but doesn't he belong to the same midget club as Tom Cruise?

[Dane E5R]

Some people were skeptical, mostly because Keaton was, y'know, Beetlejuice.

The difference is that Keaton is/was, you know, an ACTOR, and Kelso is just some moron who can't act, isn't funny, and has absolutely no depth whatsoever. have you ever heard him talk in real life? He sounds like the same stupid stoner he plays in every show or movie he appears in.

They were skeptical because Keaton did comedy before Batman, just like Ashton. Believe it or not, he really shines on Punk'D. He's got really good natural, BELIEVABLE improvisation skills. I have no doubt whatsoever that he can play a serious role if given the opportunity.

[Karpo_007]

Maybe a serious role, but certainly not Batman. Won't state the reasons again, they are in my previous post.

[Dane E5R]

Not only that, but doesn't he belong to the same midget club as Tom Cruise?

Nah, man. He's a tall drink of water.

[Brodie]

Actually I don't remember hearing anything like that. And just look at the guy! Maybe after 20 years he could play Batman.

There was controversy over Keaton, but everyone shut up after the film was released. And He can't play Batman now. He supposedly has a severe leg problem, which he got from Batman.

....Playing Batman, not the actual Batman...

[Karpo_007]

Yeah I Leo said the same. But Kutcher is certainly not up for the role. And Keaton would probably be little too old.

[EZweasel]

well ashton can play the role if he wants. means nothing to me. I dont care that much for batman anyway even though the first 2 movies where good. and ashton is a good actor. the the guy who said something about" the sum of all fears. that was the worst movie ive ever seen. i fell asleep in the theaters and hated it ever since, i watched like 75% of it. a big trash of a movie. and the matrix is keanu's best movie. i liked both the first and sequel. as far as the role of batman...im gona have to go with billy crystal on that one. and for super man im gona have to say hulk hogan. its about time hulk hogan had another movie. hes one of my favorite comidians.

[Leo656]

:lol:

Hulk Hogan as Superman... that I can NOT see...

Lex Luger as Superman, however? It's been done...
http://members.aol.com/VARTOX/luger.jpg

[ironhelix]

....Playing Batman, not the actual Batman...

:lol:

[Reznorite420]

I'll tell you another thing that's wrong with Warner Bros.:

As it stands now (and this is CONFIRMED by the big id Software themselves), WB is in the process of making a movie to my favorite video game of all time, DOOM. It'll be based off the upcoming DOOM 3 (which is just a remake of the first game, in other words, KICKARSE!), and the new game looks pretty graphic. There's no way in Hell that a DOOM movie will be even remotely good without it being rated "R". Guess what rating WB is aiming for?


















PG-FRIGGIN'-13!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you say, "Brain fart?"

[XERO]

:lol:

Hulk Hogan as Superman... that I can NOT see...

Well, "Suburban Commando" was pretty cool...

It had the Undertaker in it! 8)

[ironhelix]

I'll tell you another thing that's wrong with Warner Bros.:

As it stands now (and this is CONFIRMED by the big id Software themselves), WB is in the process of making a movie to my favorite video game of all time, DOOM. It'll be based off the upcoming DOOM 3 (which is just a remake of the first game, in other words, KICKARSE!), and the new game looks pretty graphic. There's no way in Hell that a DOOM movie will be even remotely good without it being rated "R". Guess what rating WB is aiming for?


















PG-FRIGGIN'-13!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you say, "Brain fart?"

"BRAIN FART"

There I said it. :lol:
Well, at least we'll get a rated R Punisher...

[Mikey the Party Turtle]

Can you say, "Brain fart?"

:lol:
I have to remember that one.
:lol:


The only saving grace WB has right now is The Matrix films, and its going to end this November, so WB is out of anything good for a long while. (Unless the next Harry Potter movie is actually good, then I see nothing that hey have that interests me besides MR and T3.)

[Tokka-B]

WB isn't the ones who give the ratings. And you should be lucky Doom even got PG-13, Id've expected a movie like that to get PG.

[Ghidorah2000]

Yeah I think I made a joke about that too, way back when he was under consideration to be Superman. Probably made it here, matter of fact, but I can't really remember.

Either way, Ashton Kutcher can't act.

Maybe they'll get Demi Moore to play Lois Lane. :roll: I think the worst rumor I heard was that they wanted Lance Bass to play Jimmy Olsen. Jon Peters is an idiot!

[ironhelix]

Yeah I think I made a joke about that too, way back when he was under consideration to be Superman. Probably made it here, matter of fact, but I can't really remember.

Either way, Ashton Kutcher can't act.

Maybe they'll get Demi Moore to play Lois Lane. :roll: I think the worst rumor I heard was that they wanted Lance Bass to play Jimmy Olsen. Jon Peters is an idiot!

Why not get the entire "band" of N*SYNC to play the main good guys (Superman, Jimmy Olsen, Lois Lane, etc.), Backstreet Boys to play the main villains (Lex Luthor, General Zod, etc.), and 98Degrees to play the poor hapless idiots stuck in the middle!!!

[ironhelix]

Can you say, "Brain fart?"

:lol:
I have to remember that one.
:lol:


The only saving grace WB has right now is The Matrix films, and its going to end this November, so WB is out of anything good for a long while. (Unless the next Harry Potter movie is actually good, then I see nothing that hey have that interests me besides MR and T3.)

MR?

[Dane E5R]

WB isn't the ones who give the ratings. And you should be lucky Doom even got PG-13, Id've expected a movie like that to get PG.




Um........................................Why??

[Mikey the Party Turtle]

Can you say, "Brain fart?"

:lol:
I have to remember that one.
:lol:


The only saving grace WB has right now is The Matrix films, and its going to end this November, so WB is out of anything good for a long while. (Unless the next Harry Potter movie is actually good, then I see nothing that hey have that interests me besides MR and T3.)

MR?

:lol: Nice avatar.

MR = Matrix Revolutions :)

[Ghidorah2000]

Why not get the entire "band" of N*SYNC to play the main good guys (Superman, Jimmy Olsen, Lois Lane, etc.), Backstreet Boys to play the main villains (Lex Luthor, General Zod, etc.), and 98Degrees to play the poor hapless idiots stuck in the middle!!!

As long as they all get killed off I'm game. :D

[J Legault]

I may not be a Batman fan but I see Warner Bros. are trying to do some remakes on their movies. They haven't done a Batman movie since 1997. Even Micheal Keaton seem to of done a good job. But I'm not hired to pick the new guy to play Batman. If the movie does come out I won't bother to go since I'm not too crazy for Batman.

[Reznorite420]

And you should be lucky Doom even got PG-13, Id've expected a movie like that to get PG.Whatever you're smoking...PLEASE SHARE IT WITH ME!!!!!

[Karpo_007]

Doom is all about senseless violence, I doubt it can work in PG13...

[ironhelix]

Doom is all about senseless violence, I doubt it can work in PG13...

Which is why Punisher is Rated R. Yeehaw let the bodies start pilin' up...

[Brodie]

I yern for the day when they do a Batman: No Man's Land flick. If done correctly. With real badasses playing the characters, like Ed Norton (See Fight Club and American History X), James Purfoy (Spence in Resident Evil), and others. Violent as all hell. Yeah... *Drools*

A comic book property that I hope the WB doesn't get it's damn dirty ape paws on? Crimson. One of the greatest comics to ever be created. So violent, prophetic, and full of controversy that the WB couldn't handle it. They'd cast people like Ashton, or Tobey McGuire (*Shudder*) as Alex Elder. And Sarah michelle Gellar as Scarlet X (Just because she's a slayer on TV, doesn't mean she's a movie slayer), and that Dawson's Creek brat as Joe.

I just pissed myself off.

Bottom line: **** the WB.

[ironhelix]

I yern for the day when they do a Batman: No Man's Land flick. If done correctly. With real badasses playing the characters, like Ed Norton (See Fight Club and American History X), James Purfoy (Spence in Resident Evil), and others. Violent as all hell. Yeah... *Drools*

A comic book property that I hope the WB doesn't get it's damn dirty ape paws on? Crimson. One of the greatest comics to ever be created. So violent, prophetic, and full of controversy that the WB couldn't handle it. They'd cast people like Ashton, or Tobey McGuire (*Shudder*) as Alex Elder. And Sarah michelle Gellar as Scarlet X (Just because she's a slayer on TV, doesn't mean she's a movie slayer), and that Dawson's Creek brat as Joe.

I just pissed myself off.

Bottom line: f*** the WB.

She isn't a slayer on TV anymore. And I'd like to make an amendment to your Bottom Line:

f*** the WB (unless it's Smallville) :lol:

[Ghidorah2000]

Hopefully with enough fan outrage and the boycotting of Warners movie properties, like Matrix Reloaded, and their music artists including Madonna, we can send a message to them that we are not going to take their substandard kiddie fare anymore.

[Brodie]

Yeah, unless it's Smallville.

[Ghidorah2000]

Yeah, unless it's Smallville.

Ok. Smallville can be an exception, but only tune into see just that show. We need to send Warners a message with our collected effort. Tell your friends to do the same so we can start a revolution. Oh and I love your SIG Image. ;)

[Tokka-B]

Nah, I prefer not to smoke, but if you want anything Raz, I'll suggest asking either major pain, or maybe grunge...that's jackpot.

[TheShredder]

Really? Do they have any crack/cocaine (http://cocaine.org)?

[Reznorite420]

Doom is all about senseless violence, I doubt it can work in PG13...Senseless violence? You obviously never have seen it the way I do. I used to write fanfics on that game, and there're even 4 novels based on the game (the first of which was OK, the last 3 are worth less than toilet paper). While at first glance the game may seem like nothing more than just shooting enemies around with no apparent theme, there have been many succesful attempts at making it into a real story; mine were once heralded as some of the greatest ones ever written (until I was banned from Doomworld and couldn't complete the story).

Hey...maybe if I talk to the right people, I can retrieve those fanfics and show them to you :D

[Ghidorah2000]

Doom is all about senseless violence, I doubt it can work in PG13...Senseless violence? You obviously never have seen it the way I do. I used to write fanfics on that game, and there're even 4 novels based on the game (the first of which was OK, the last 3 are worth less than toilet paper). While at first glance the game may seem like nothing more than just shooting enemies around with no apparent theme, there have been many succesful attempts at making it into a real story; mine were once heralded as some of the greatest ones ever written (until I was banned from Doomworld and couldn't complete the story).

Hey...maybe if I talk to the right people, I can retrieve those fanfics and show them to you :D

Hmmmm.....My only real last impressions of the game Doom was getting the God Mode and slicing up enemies with the chainsaw or burning them to a crisp with my trusty flame thrower. Now where is that game...I know I have around somewhere for the Sega Saturn.