Which was your preferred Turtle romance?

[InsaneZane]

Leonardo + Karai/Lotus
Donatello + April
Raphael + Mona Lisa
Michelangelo + Kala
Bonus: Leonardo + Venus

Leo + Karai for me! :tgrin: Great Chemistry!

[ZariusTwo]

I want to say Don/Irma but that's more or less just a fanon dream:)

[Andrew NDB]

Was? All of those are imagined.

[InsaneZane]

Was? All of those are imagined.

not really, all instances implore the u.s.t. (unresolved sexual tension) into the stories, depending on the universe. that makes them an unofficial "romance" so to speak.

[Shreddhead]

I personally dislike just about any turtle romancing. It just always feels tacked on and basically useless. I think Don's crush on April in the nick show is ok, it sets up a lot of jokes which Im fine with- as long as it doesnt go anywhere. And I always liked how all of the turtles kind of had a crush on April in the OT, but it was extremely innocent and only at certain times.
This is about as far as I want any turtle romance to go:
http://www.vgmpire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/EP_38.jpg

[InsaneZane]

oh man, i loved earning April's kiss in the arcade! :)

i do agree that out would be to much to show any turtle romance go anywhere, aside from fan work, that's not what the ninja turtles are about, i was just wondering if anybody favors a particular couple

[Prowler]

Turtles should not have romances. Fortunately, none of those in the poll were ever romances.

[Powder]

Was? All of those are imagined.

This.

not really, all instances implore the u.s.t. (unresolved sexual tension) into the stories, depending on the universe. that makes them an unofficial "romance" so to speak.

There is no sexual tension in kids shows. That's your headcannon. You even admit that.

Turtles should not have romances. Fortunately, none of those in the poll were ever romances.

This.

[Irishmile]

Mikey's love for pizza is entertaining... I get a chuckle when one of them gets teased for having a crush.. IE Raph from the movie or Donnie in the new toon.. but I do not like them having real relationships.

[CyberCubed]

The only real romances was Mike with Sara and The Regenta in the comics.

[Andrew NDB]

The only real romances was Mike with Sara and The Regenta in the comics.

And Leonardo and Radical.

[BubblyShell22]

I voted for Leo/Karai, though Lotus was a different character and had no connection to Karai at all. They were separate characters, so you might want to fix that bit.

[Donatello19]

Why are some of you guys saying that those are all imagined? Sure none of them are like "110 PERCENT SUPER OFFICIAL CONFIRMED" but they are HEAVILY implied. Can you seriously say that Mona Lisa wasn't intended to be Raph's love interest? I mean, look at this:

http://www.thetechnodrome.com/images/vhs/rmhm.jpg

[DonatelloNinja82]

I want to say Don/Irma but that's more or less just a fanon dream:)

I like Don/Irma for OT...but Don/April for 2k12. Depends on the universe :D.

I cannot vote...*sigh*....(except no to Leo/Venus). I always loved Mikey and Kala in OT, they had some cute moments. "Raphael Meets His Match" is one of my favorite eps and I so wish she returned. Leo/Lotus or Leo/Karai can work, too, depending on what incarnation you are in. :D

[madyankees]

Where's the option for "none of the above"?

[Bossa Nova]

Where's the option for "none of the above"?

Agreed :ohwell:

[Refractive Reflections]

As I said before in these forums, I don't mind romance as long as its done well (I abhor the teeny bopper, mary-sue style romances in TMNT fanfics), and as long as it doesn't overshadow the action/fighting themes, and the family/friendship dynamics of the show.

Because nobody really tunes into TMNT for the romance, otherwise that would make TMNT a whole other type of show.

[gobo]

Slash & Binky

[InsaneZane]

First of all I just want to say that I agree that the Turtles stories should not focus on romance... I was just curious as to which "crush" was preferred...
Maybe I should have labeled the poll "crush" since everyone has such a problem understanding that i used the term "romance" pretty loosely in that I did not meant they were "Steady couples" or anything.

Turtles should not have romances. Fortunately, none of those in the poll were ever romances.
denial. as simple as that.


There is no sexual tension in kids shows. That's your headcannon. You even admit that.
Yes, they were unofficial romances, but You are definitely wrong about no UST in kids shows. Sometimes, it isn't written to be obvious... it's subtle so it goes over kid's heads. (Maybe thats why you didn't notice) UST doesn't necessarily mean someone is about to have sex or anything, the term can be used in the same fashion for two or even just one that have a crush. thats what the "UNresloved" part means... that it doesn't go anywhere.
Maybe your "headcannon" is in denial because the writers obviously hinted at a romance for all of these couples whether or not they ever happened.
It WAS there, even if you didnt see it.
Maybe you should try not being so literal all the time. Seriously? That's my headcannon? How Rude. Only Me and millions of other people. Every time Powder jeez.. every thread you are wound SO tight.
Always the first to try and correct someone. Always the first to try and make someone feel stupid for posting something specific. Always the first to try and shove your opinions as fact down people's throats.
It's starting to get annoying. If you have to correct someone, try being nicer about it. I feel like people walk on eggshells around you just to avoid your smart@$$ comments. Maybe you should read gobo's signature a few more times and actually take it to heart.

The only real romances was Mike with Sara and The Regenta in the comics.
Aw, Man I forgot that one! but unlike the others on poll as you say, that was a real romance, they even make-out

And Leonardo and Radical.
never even heard about that. where does that happen?

I voted for Leo/Karai, though Lotus was a different character and had no connection to Karai at all. They were separate characters, so you might want to fix that bit.
of course i know they are different characters, but Lotus is kind of the OT version of Karai and the "crush" for Leo is still there. So I combined the options instead of separating them. Plus if I didnt put her on there, I'm sure someone would ask why she was missing.

Why are some of you guys saying that those are all imagined? Sure none of them are like "110 PERCENT SUPER OFFICIAL CONFIRMED" but they are HEAVILY implied. Can you seriously say that Mona Lisa wasn't intended to be Raph's love interest? I mean, look at this:

http://www.thetechnodrome.com/images/vhs/rmhm.jpg
Thank You for the back up. I was getting super gained up on there. I thought it was common turtle knowledge among fans that they've all had "crushes" at some point. Shell, even up until the new show came out where they make Don like April I've heard Donatello get made fun of like he's gay cuz he wears purple and uses a long stick and has a nasally voice. I've heard way too many jokes like that for comfort. I wouldnt be surprised if that was the whole reason behind making Don like April for the new show. Ciro probably got tired of hearing crap like that cuz Don's his favorite.

Where's the option for "none of the above"?
Just dont vote. If I included an option like that then Nobody would vote for any of the others, including myself.

[Powder]

blah blah blah hypocrisy passive aggressiveness etc

Put me on ignore.

[billbot85]

I voted for Raph and Mona Lisa. I wished that they had made more episodes featuring the two of them working together. It's too bad they only featured Mona Lisa in one episode, I thought she was pretty awesome.

Although I do love the Donnie and April romance in the 2012 series. I think it's more intriguing than just having all 4 crush after her.

[InsaneZane]

Slash & Binky
:tlol::tlol:

Put me on ignore.

Thats a good freaking idea! Man, even your picture looks like a punk. How can you be such a punk and still love Turtles so much?
You remind me of a gang banger who has to "stop and smell the roses" cuz he loves flowers so much.

[Powder]

:tlol::tlol:

Thats a good freaking idea! Man, even your picture looks like a punk. How can you be such a punk and still love Turtles so much?
You remind me of a gang banger who has to "stop and smell the roses" cuz he loves flowers so much.

btw... I'd like to see you point out 1 thing i said that was hypocritical..
Now theres just hot air coming from your pie hole.
Plus, you should re-read my post because i changed it right before you responded and it contains something you should see



I'm done, reported.

[Jester]

Thats a good freaking idea! Man, even your picture looks like a punk. How can you be such a punk and still love Turtles so much?
You remind me of a gang banger who has to "stop and smell the roses" cuz he loves flowers so much.
Wha??

Made me think of:
http://youtu.be/7_6KMGB_Pkw?t=1m33s

[InsaneZane]

good report me... It's people like you that made me stay away from this place for several years and its people like you that'll run it into the ground,
"Mr. Popular"

Wha??

Made me think of:
http://youtu.be/7_6KMGB_Pkw?t=1m33s

:tlol:

[Jester]

The only real romances was Mike with Sara and The Regenta in the comics.

And Leonardo and Radical.
And Raph+Ninjara in Archie.

Mikey and Kala and Donnie and April are the only toon relationships that hints at romance, and we know that Donnie's isn't going anywhere. Leo and Karai strikes me more as mutual respect as equals and honor bound warriors. Same with Lotus. Raph and Mona is WAY inflated by fans. I mean, was there any flirting or anything there? Aside from Mona using it to get aboard ship?

[Zulithe]

Raph/Casey. April be jelly.

[InsaneZane]

Raph/Casey. April be jelly.

lol Bromance!!

[Candy Kappa]

Mikey and the Styracodon Princess was a one night stand with bad after effects, hardly much romance

[CowabungaMikey]

Slash & Binky

:lol: This guy here :lol:

Venus and Leo for me. It coulded be really interesting.

[DonatelloNinja82]

And Raph+Ninjara in Archie.

Mikey and Kala and Donnie and April are the only toon relationships that hints at romance, and we know that Donnie's isn't going anywhere. Leo and Karai strikes me more as mutual respect as equals and honor bound warriors. Same with Lotus. Raph and Mona is WAY inflated by fans. I mean, was there any flirting or anything there? Aside from Mona using it to get aboard ship?

Raph and Ninjara should be a choice.
Raph did say to Mona Lisa that he thought she was cute. She remarked that she was a "groteque mutant" and he said he thought she was "Kinda cute".

[Prowler]

denial. as simple as that.
I think you're the one who's in denial, actually.

[ZariusTwo]

I personally dislike just about any turtle romancing. It just always feels tacked on and basically useless. I think Don's crush on April in the nick show is ok, it sets up a lot of jokes which Im fine with- as long as it doesnt go anywhere. And I always liked how all of the turtles kind of had a crush on April in the OT, but it was extremely innocent and only at certain times.
This is about as far as I want any turtle romance to go:
http://www.vgmpire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/EP_38.jpg

Look kids, Leonardo is seducing you.:)

[Shreddhead]

Look kids, Leonardo is seducing you.:)

Sha-Wing!!

[raph27]

My fav relationship is InsaneZane and Powder's hatefest.:D

[Refractive Reflections]

My fav relationship is InsaneZane and Powder's hatefest.:D

Gotta love some daily 'Drome Drama. :lol:

[BubblyShell22]

Sha-Wing!!

Bow chicka wow wow. I love Leo's pose there.

[InsaneZane]

My fav relationship is InsaneZane and Powder's hatefest.:D
this made me laugh:tgrin:

[Leo656]

Look kids, Leonardo is seducing you.:)

:lol::lol::lol:

I don't get the big deal about the relationships thing, but to me TMNT has always been a bit more light-hearted (which is to say, not as goofy as the OT but not as dark and fatalistic as Mirage). To me, the thought of the Turtles never having emotional attachments to anyone of the opposite gender isn't very realistic, "the species question" notwithstanding (because that's honestly a very superficial argument and has been worked around many times before), and frankly, I find the idea of the Turtles living for about a hundred years or so while completely alone, isolated, and never knowing anything like romantic love to be a little more gloomy and depressing than I care for TMNT to be. To me, the fact that love and relationships exist in real life means it can and even should be on the table for use in fictional stories.

I "get" that, to some, the tragic and lonely existence is part of what they like about "their" TMNT. Or for others, it's "just a kids cartoon" and stuff like that has no place. I get that, to those people at either extreme, adding in any kind of relationship angle ruins things for them. And that's fine, for them, but what they like is not entirely the kind of TMNT stories I want to read all the time.

Likewise, if they're gonna "go there", it should be done well or it's pointless. Frankly, they haven't had much success in "going there", so I do get why some people hate the very idea of them having relationships or being attracted to someone. It can be and has been done poorly in the past. But that's not to say it can't work or should never be attempted. Conversely, that also doesn't mean that romance or stories of relationships should become the focus of the stories or overshadow everything else that's going on, but I don't think it should have to. The Superman books didn't become mini-romance novels once Lois and Clark got together and got married, for example, but it did free up both characters to become more well-written and dynamic characters than they'd been in decades, as well as allowed writers to try some entirely new ideas with the characters (to varying degrees of success).

I thought Ninjara and Raphael in the Archie books was an example of doing it well, and it made Raphael much more interesting (and tragic) as a character, giving him an actual arc and a storyline which expanded on the ONE story he always normally has (you know, the one where he's a complete loner who's angry all the time... THAT never gets old or redundant. WE GET IT.). Seeing him go through an entire developmental cycle of meeting someone, building a relationship with them, sabotaging it with his own self-destructive behavior, and eventually losing them, made Raphael a much more interesting, dynamic, and REAL character than I can remember seeing him being portrayed elsewhere. Adding Ninjara to the mix didn't hurt Raphael's character in the least, rather she "fixed" it and made him infinitely more interesting, and had the series continued, they could have done a lot to explore Raphael psychologically, as in WHY he's so damn angry and self-destructive, to the point of alienating everyone he cares for.

So I think it works, it can be done, but no need pointlessly throwing it in unless it makes sense. For one, I think the guys deserve at least a fleeting chance to be happy, the wall-to-wall misery and bleakness in some of the fiction is a bit much at times. But that's not to say it should overtake everything else or be done for no real reason, either. I would vote for Raphael/Ninjara as the best example of doing it right, but I didn't see it on the list.

[Megafoxy]

My vote would be Raph/Mona and Leo/Venus.

[gobo]

Mikey and Kala and Donnie and April are the only toon relationships that hints at romance
Leo/Lotus was obviously a romance. She asked him to run away with her in her first appearance, and Leo got all dopey when telling Zach's brother who she was.

[Luckyday]

:lol::lol::lol:

I don't get the big deal about the relationships thing, but to me TMNT has always been a bit more light-hearted (which is to say, not as goofy as the OT but not as dark and fatalistic as Mirage). To me, the thought of the Turtles never having emotional attachments to anyone of the opposite gender isn't very realistic, "the species question" notwithstanding (because that's honestly a very superficial argument and has been worked around many times before), and frankly, I find the idea of the Turtles living for about a hundred years or so while completely alone, isolated, and never knowing anything like romantic love to be a little more gloomy and depressing than I care for TMNT to be. To me, the fact that love and relationships exist in real life means it can and even should be on the table for use in fictional stories.

I "get" that, to some, the tragic and lonely existence is part of what they like about "their" TMNT. Or for others, it's "just a kids cartoon" and stuff like that has no place. I get that, to those people at either extreme, adding in any kind of relationship angle ruins things for them. And that's fine, for them, but what they like is not entirely the kind of TMNT stories I want to read all the time.

Likewise, if they're gonna "go there", it should be done well or it's pointless. Frankly, they haven't had much success in "going there", so I do get why some people hate the very idea of them having relationships or being attracted to someone. It can be and has been done poorly in the past. But that's not to say it can't work or should never be attempted. Conversely, that also doesn't mean that romance or stories of relationships should become the focus of the stories or overshadow everything else that's going on, but I don't think it should have to. The Superman books didn't become mini-romance novels once Lois and Clark got together and got married, for example, but it did free up both characters to become more well-written and dynamic characters than they'd been in decades, as well as allowed writers to try some entirely new ideas with the characters (to varying degrees of success).

I thought Ninjara and Raphael in the Archie books was an example of doing it well, and it made Raphael much more interesting (and tragic) as a character, giving him an actual arc and a storyline which expanded on the ONE story he always normally has (you know, the one where he's a complete loner who's angry all the time... THAT never gets old or redundant. WE GET IT.). Seeing him go through an entire developmental cycle of meeting someone, building a relationship with them, sabotaging it with his own self-destructive behavior, and eventually losing them, made Raphael a much more interesting, dynamic, and REAL character than I can remember seeing him being portrayed elsewhere. Adding Ninjara to the mix didn't hurt Raphael's character in the least, rather she "fixed" it and made him infinitely more interesting, and had the series continued, they could have done a lot to explore Raphael psychologically, as in WHY he's so damn angry and self-destructive, to the point of alienating everyone he cares for.

So I think it works, it can be done, but no need pointlessly throwing it in unless it makes sense. For one, I think the guys deserve at least a fleeting chance to be happy, the wall-to-wall misery and bleakness in some of the fiction is a bit much at times. But that's not to say it should overtake everything else or be done for no real reason, either. I would vote for Raphael/Ninjara as the best example of doing it right, but I didn't see it on the list.

Maybe thats why theres a new "version" of her in the IDW run.

[Refractive Reflections]

I don't get the big deal about the relationships thing, but to me TMNT has always been a bit more light-hearted (which is to say, not as goofy as the OT but not as dark and fatalistic as Mirage). To me, the thought of the Turtles never having emotional attachments to anyone of the opposite gender isn't very realistic, "the species question" notwithstanding (because that's honestly a very superficial argument and has been worked around many times before), and frankly, I find the idea of the Turtles living for about a hundred years or so while completely alone, isolated, and never knowing anything like romantic love to be a little more gloomy and depressing than I care for TMNT to be. To me, the fact that love and relationships exist in real life means it can and even should be on the table for use in fictional stories.

I "get" that, to some, the tragic and lonely existence is part of what they like about "their" TMNT. Or for others, it's "just a kids cartoon" and stuff like that has no place. I get that, to those people at either extreme, adding in any kind of relationship angle ruins things for them. And that's fine, for them, but what they like is not entirely the kind of TMNT stories I want to read all the time.

Likewise, if they're gonna "go there", it should be done well or it's pointless. Frankly, they haven't had much success in "going there", so I do get why some people hate the very idea of them having relationships or being attracted to someone. It can be and has been done poorly in the past. But that's not to say it can't work or should never be attempted. Conversely, that also doesn't mean that romance or stories of relationships should become the focus of the stories or overshadow everything else that's going on, but I don't think it should have to. The Superman books didn't become mini-romance novels once Lois and Clark got together and got married, for example, but it did free up both characters to become more well-written and dynamic characters than they'd been in decades, as well as allowed writers to try some entirely new ideas with the characters (to varying degrees of success).

I thought Ninjara and Raphael in the Archie books was an example of doing it well, and it made Raphael much more interesting (and tragic) as a character, giving him an actual arc and a storyline which expanded on the ONE story he always normally has (you know, the one where he's a complete loner who's angry all the time... THAT never gets old or redundant. WE GET IT.). Seeing him go through an entire developmental cycle of meeting someone, building a relationship with them, sabotaging it with his own self-destructive behavior, and eventually losing them, made Raphael a much more interesting, dynamic, and REAL character than I can remember seeing him being portrayed elsewhere. Adding Ninjara to the mix didn't hurt Raphael's character in the least, rather she "fixed" it and made him infinitely more interesting, and had the series continued, they could have done a lot to explore Raphael psychologically, as in WHY he's so damn angry and self-destructive, to the point of alienating everyone he cares for.

So I think it works, it can be done, but no need pointlessly throwing it in unless it makes sense. For one, I think the guys deserve at least a fleeting chance to be happy, the wall-to-wall misery and bleakness in some of the fiction is a bit much at times. But that's not to say it should overtake everything else or be done for no real reason, either. I would vote for Raphael/Ninjara as the best example of doing it right, but I didn't see it on the list.

Well explained Leo656! ***congratulatory clapping***
You elaborated my viewpoint almost exactly that I have expressed here, and on other threads beforehand regarding the whole romance/shipping aspect to TMNT.

Good romances, I believe, are love interests that bring out different sides of the characters (or in this case the Turtles). As the relationship becomes progressively closer and more intimate, it reveals character flaws and weaknesses that can be explored more deeply than sometimes other family or friend relationships can not uncover since so much is exposed within a person's character in regards to romantic relationships.

Raphael and Ninjara is a good example of good shipping. It reveals a side to the Turtles that sometimes no other relative or friend can expose, and in the process, helps the reader to understand why a Turtle's personality is, the way it is. As you have explained with Archie's Raphael.

If the shipping/romance, is used simply to fulfill a childish, blissful "happily ever after" purpose then it comes across as highly immature and unpractical. (Personally, I'm an optimistic romantic but there has to be some realism here for the reader to relate to this situation, and to have a deeper appreciation for it as an adult. While having this "relationship realism", in the process, it makes the reader more engrossed into a romantic relationship since he/she could relate to the relationship's highs and lows.) Then you have another extreme, in which more "fringe" fans want official shipping/romance as a device to cross into their hentai-themed art, fics, and ideas. :sick: Ugh...

Anyways though, Great insight Leo656! :D

[InsaneZane]

I don't get the big deal about the relationships thing, but to me TMNT has always been a bit more light-hearted (which is to say, not as goofy as the OT but not as dark and fatalistic as Mirage). To me, the thought of the Turtles never having emotional attachments to anyone of the opposite gender isn't very realistic, "the species question" notwithstanding (because that's honestly a very superficial argument and has been worked around many times before), and frankly, I find the idea of the Turtles living for about a hundred years or so while completely alone, isolated, and never knowing anything like romantic love to be a little more gloomy and depressing than I care for TMNT to be. To me, the fact that love and relationships exist in real life means it can and even should be on the table for use in fictional stories.

I "get" that, to some, the tragic and lonely existence is part of what they like about "their" TMNT. Or for others, it's "just a kids cartoon" and stuff like that has no place. I get that, to those people at either extreme, adding in any kind of relationship angle ruins things for them. And that's fine, for them, but what they like is not entirely the kind of TMNT stories I want to read all the time.

Likewise, if they're gonna "go there", it should be done well or it's pointless. Frankly, they haven't had much success in "going there", so I do get why some people hate the very idea of them having relationships or being attracted to someone. It can be and has been done poorly in the past. But that's not to say it can't work or should never be attempted. Conversely, that also doesn't mean that romance or stories of relationships should become the focus of the stories or overshadow everything else that's going on, but I don't think it should have to. The Superman books didn't become mini-romance novels once Lois and Clark got together and got married, for example, but it did free up both characters to become more well-written and dynamic characters than they'd been in decades, as well as allowed writers to try some entirely new ideas with the characters (to varying degrees of success).

I thought Ninjara and Raphael in the Archie books was an example of doing it well, and it made Raphael much more interesting (and tragic) as a character, giving him an actual arc and a storyline which expanded on the ONE story he always normally has (you know, the one where he's a complete loner who's angry all the time... THAT never gets old or redundant. WE GET IT.). Seeing him go through an entire developmental cycle of meeting someone, building a relationship with them, sabotaging it with his own self-destructive behavior, and eventually losing them, made Raphael a much more interesting, dynamic, and REAL character than I can remember seeing him being portrayed elsewhere. Adding Ninjara to the mix didn't hurt Raphael's character in the least, rather she "fixed" it and made him infinitely more interesting, and had the series continued, they could have done a lot to explore Raphael psychologically, as in WHY he's so damn angry and self-destructive, to the point of alienating everyone he cares for.

So I think it works, it can be done, but no need pointlessly throwing it in unless it makes sense. For one, I think the guys deserve at least a fleeting chance to be happy, the wall-to-wall misery and bleakness in some of the fiction is a bit much at times. But that's not to say it should overtake everything else or be done for no real reason, either. I would vote for Raphael/Ninjara as the best example of doing it right, but I didn't see it on the list.

I need to read more of the Archie!
the stories dont have all one dimensional
thanks for making these great points, love the superman reference

[miru]

Wheeler is Raph + Ninjara?