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Chicagoguy
08-01-2013, 02:44 PM
So I was out at Barnes and Noble today browsing around the store when I stumbled upon one of those children based TMNT novels. You may be familiar with these. They already released two Mutant Origin flip books (two turtles as the focus per book) that adapted the first episode. Well there was a new book that I found today called Showdown with Shredder that I assumed would have adapted an episode like The Guantlet. I opened the book, and I was shocked to find the first scene taking place in Dimension X! I flipped through the first few chapters and when it started talking about Kraang Prime and the invasion of Earth, I realized that this book was adapting the season finale. I did not want to completely spoil myself because I want to see the episode itself first, but I did see one major spoiler. They are going to introduce the Technodrome!
Andrew NDB
08-01-2013, 02:45 PM
They are going to introduce [SPOILER]the Technodrome!
What an enormous surprise that is... *yawn*
ZariusTwo
08-01-2013, 05:21 PM
What an enormous surprise that is... *yawn*
Your trollish pessimisum puts virtually every one who reads it in a coma..fortunatly, the comas are never long lasting, showing how ineffective your powers always will be to the vast majority, who will find this spoiler particulary exciting
You do realize the name of the place you're on right? It's not, and never will be, "Masters of Mirage". I really do wonder why you even bother posting here, especially when all you post is the same tired negative s*ite every single time thinking you're going to accomplish something. You've never acheived anything of note in your entire life except maybe a few s*itty quality podcasts nobody outside of here listens to, and s*tty fanfilms based off a franchise that's a f*cking laughing stock these days (Highlander)
I know this won't get through to you, but learn this: The comics you worship are not the reason anyone cares about TMNT nowadays, nor is their quality neccersarily the measuring stick by which this franchise is defined. TMNT is more proftible, noticable,and popular in the televised medium, and the incarnation that draws the most attention will always be the 80s 'toon. Here's your bitter pill, now SWALLOW it.
BubblyShell22
08-01-2013, 06:27 PM
Well said, Zarius. And thanks, CG, for giving us that spoiler. I had a feeling that would happen, but I wasn't sure. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out, and I certainly can't wait for the finale knowing this bit of information.
DonatelloNinja82
08-01-2013, 06:31 PM
OMG so stoked now...I wanna go buy that book! I cannot wait to see 2k12 Dimension X...and what the Technodrome is going to look like!! :rolling:
MikeandRaph87
08-01-2013, 06:40 PM
Good call, Zarius for saying exactly what I was thinking!
Thanks for the epic spoiler! Its great to see that coming up! I'm thrilled we will see this development!:rolling:
NinjaPug
08-01-2013, 06:40 PM
Is the Technodrome not the big circular Kraang base that they're showing in the finale previews? Don't think it's much of a spoiler.
CyberCubed
08-01-2013, 06:41 PM
Since its in IDW too I don't see why anyone is surprised.
Donatello19
08-01-2013, 08:50 PM
THE TECHNODROME LIVES ON!!!
Nice find! I was scared to click the spoiler at first...but it didn't spoil the entire episode or anything so I'm good :) If I saw that book in person though, I don't know if I'd be able to resist reading through the whole thing :D Looks like I'll be staying away from Barnes and Noble for a while :lol:
Wait a minute.....If the Technodrome is gonna be in the show....THAN THAT MEANS THERE WILL (most likely) BE A PLAY SET OF IT!!!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/0b00efc94b77d03cb85ff3c57a85c1b3/tumblr_mgb5lhMDc61r740jmo1_500.gif
snake
08-01-2013, 08:56 PM
YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES
The Technodrome?!?!??! Awesome!
I'm so excited for this right now! And we might get a playset like Donatello19 said!
NinjaMan
08-01-2013, 09:08 PM
Your trollish pessimisum puts virtually every one who reads it in a coma..fortunatly, the comas are never long lasting, showing how ineffective your powers always will be to the vast majority, who will find this spoiler particulary exciting
You do realize the name of the place you're on right? It's not, and never will be, "Masters of Mirage". I really do wonder why you even bother posting here, especially when all you post is the same tired negative s*ite every single time thinking you're going to accomplish something. You've never acheived anything of note in your entire life except maybe a few s*itty quality podcasts nobody outside of here listens to, and s*tty fanfilms based off a franchise that's a f*cking laughing stock these days (Highlander)
I know this won't get through to you, but learn this: The comics you worship are not the reason anyone cares about TMNT nowadays, nor is their quality neccersarily the measuring stick by which this franchise is defined. TMNT is more proftible, noticable,and popular in the televised medium, and the incarnation that draws the most attention will always be the 80s 'toon. Here's your bitter pill, now SWALLOW it.
This post needs a like button. Well said Zarius, well said.
snake
08-01-2013, 09:13 PM
Your trollish pessimisum puts virtually every one who reads it in a coma..fortunatly, the comas are never long lasting, showing how ineffective your powers always will be to the vast majority, who will find this spoiler particulary exciting
You do realize the name of the place you're on right? It's not, and never will be, "Masters of Mirage". I really do wonder why you even bother posting here, especially when all you post is the same tired negative s*ite every single time thinking you're going to accomplish something. You've never acheived anything of note in your entire life except maybe a few s*itty quality podcasts nobody outside of here listens to, and s*tty fanfilms based off a franchise that's a f*cking laughing stock these days (Highlander)
I know this won't get through to you, but learn this: The comics you worship are not the reason anyone cares about TMNT nowadays, nor is their quality neccersarily the measuring stick by which this franchise is defined. TMNT is more proftible, noticable,and popular in the televised medium, and the incarnation that draws the most attention will always be the 80s 'toon. Here's your bitter pill, now SWALLOW it.
Thank you.
Andrew needs to be shut up for good, and told that he's not wanted unless he changes. If only we could convince him to leave.
CyberCubed
08-01-2013, 09:21 PM
I'd only want to see the Technodrome if there's the real Krang in command.
I mean c'mon, how are you going to introduce the Technodrome without THE KRANG as its commander?
snake
08-01-2013, 09:22 PM
I'd only want to see the Technodrome if there's the real Krang in command.
I mean c'mon, how are you going to introduce the Technodrome without THE KRANG as its commander?
Easy! You don't. Accept difference.
Jester
08-01-2013, 09:24 PM
I may disagree with Andrew, but Zarius often is just as inflammatory.
Heaven forbid we have differing opinions....you're never gonna sway Andrew and he's never gonna sway you. The net result of both of those posts comes to a big goose egg. At least Andrew didn't result to petty name calling and sniping about "never amounting to anything." He likes what he likes...and is vocal about it. I can't remember a time where ever said anything negative about FANS of the FW series, just the series itself.
Donatello19
08-01-2013, 09:27 PM
I mean c'mon, how are you going to introduce the Technodrome without THE KRANG as its commander?
Well...you know...without THE Krang as it's commander :D
Besides, Kraang Prime is "THE Krang" of this incarnation.
NinjaPug
08-01-2013, 09:31 PM
Besides, Kraang Prime is "THE Krang" of this incarnation.
No he's not.
Jester
08-01-2013, 09:33 PM
I'd only want to see the Technodrome if there's the real Krang in command.
I mean c'mon, how are you going to introduce the Technodrome without THE KRANG as its commander?
http://i.qkme.me/35rsff.jpg
Donatello19
08-01-2013, 09:35 PM
No he's not.
Um...she kinda is. She's the leader of the Kraang and the main Kraang in charge. That's like saying that Shredder isn't THE Shredder just because he has a different design :roll:
Jester
08-01-2013, 09:37 PM
THE Kraang are Krang. Kraang prime is their leader, but the Kraang is a smash-up of the Utroms and Krang, who himself was a reworking of an Utrom anyway.
Donatello19
08-01-2013, 09:40 PM
THE Kraang are Krang. Kraang prime is their leader, but the Kraang is a smash-up of the Utroms and Krang, who himself was a reworking of an Utrom anyway.
Exactly! People should be happy that The Kraang are in this show at all. Honestly, Kraang Prime seems similar enough to "the Krang" anyway...
Coola Yagami
08-01-2013, 09:41 PM
Um...she kinda is. She's the leader of the Kraang and the main Kraang in charge. That's like saying that Shredder isn't THE Shredder just because he has a different design :roll:
Except Krang was never the leader of a hivemind race... so no.. he's not.
Coola Yagami
08-01-2013, 09:43 PM
Your trollish pessimisum puts virtually every one who reads it in a coma..fortunatly, the comas are never long lasting, showing how ineffective your powers always will be to the vast majority, who will find this spoiler particulary exciting
You do realize the name of the place you're on right? It's not, and never will be, "Masters of Mirage". I really do wonder why you even bother posting here, especially when all you post is the same tired negative s*ite every single time thinking you're going to accomplish something. You've never acheived anything of note in your entire life except maybe a few s*itty quality podcasts nobody outside of here listens to, and s*tty fanfilms based off a franchise that's a f*cking laughing stock these days (Highlander)
I know this won't get through to you, but learn this: The comics you worship are not the reason anyone cares about TMNT nowadays, nor is their quality neccersarily the measuring stick by which this franchise is defined. TMNT is more proftible, noticable,and popular in the televised medium, and the incarnation that draws the most attention will always be the 80s 'toon. Here's your bitter pill, now SWALLOW it.
Let's not forget he made fancomics to finish the otherwise-incomplete Volume 3, with some of the actual people involved. That alone is something awesome.
Your post is out of line. Andrew is cool, and firm in his decisions. Like Jester says, he might insult the show but not the fans of it. Insulting him personally over a kid's show is out of line and ridiculous.
Donatello19
08-01-2013, 09:43 PM
Except Krang was never the leader of a hivemind race... so no.. he's not.
Oh yes....a few small differences makes a COMPLETELY different character. Why, I doubt Kraang Prime is even based on Krang at all! Gosh, maybe they should of just made a re make of the OT...:trolleye:
snake
08-01-2013, 09:45 PM
Why can't people, agree on kraang prime is a re- imagining of Krang. I mean, it's not complex or anything.
Donatello19
08-01-2013, 09:48 PM
Why can't people, agree on kraang prime is a re- imagining of Krang. I mean, it's not complex or anything.
Exactly. This is what I've been trying to say! Thank you, Snakeweed.
Coola Yagami
08-01-2013, 09:49 PM
Oh yes....a few small differences makes a COMPLETELY different character. Why, I doubt Kraang Prime is even based on Krang at all! Gosh, maybe they should of just made a re make of the OT...:trolleye:
Isn't that what Cybercubed wants?
On a similar note, can't people also accept that Kraang Prime ISN'T a re-imagining of Krang? The Kraang are based on the Utroms. Mortu was kinda like the leader of the Utroms (if not the leader). Does that make him THE KRANG in the 2K3 series? Does that make the Utrominator in TMNT Smash-Up THE KRANG of the game? Seriously, this THE Krang stuff this is such nonsense.
NinjaPug
08-01-2013, 09:50 PM
Because one of the writers said Kraang Prime isn't Krang. The Kraang is based off OT Krang/Utroms.
CyberCubed
08-01-2013, 10:03 PM
Because one of the writers said Kraang Prime isn't Krang. The Kraang is based off OT Krang/Utroms.
One of the writers, and he's not working on the show past Season 1.
Coola Yagami
08-01-2013, 10:06 PM
One of the writers, and he's not working on the show past Season 1.
But Kraang Prime appears at the end of season 1. And also... what? Are they gonna suddenly shift gears once he stops working after season 1? Are they gonna say Shredder is Eric Sachs if one of the writers leaves after season 1?
CyberCubed
08-01-2013, 10:07 PM
But Kraang Prime appears at the end of season 1. And also... what? Are they gonna suddenly shift gears once he stops working after season 1? Are they gonna say Shredder is Eric Sachs if one of the writers leaves after season 1?
Didn't they originally say Kraang Prime was a female queen...and then changed their minds and made him male?
Things change and characters evolve.
Galactus
08-01-2013, 10:07 PM
Why can't people, agree on kraang prime is a re- imagining of Krang. I mean, it's not complex or anything.
I suppose they are in the same vein that Krang himself was a reimagining of the TCRI aliens.
Strictly speaking so far the Kraang have more a lot more in common with the Utroms than they do with Krang were the only similarity is the name. In fact we even had someone involved with the show actualy make that exact claim.
In fact the only real difference is that the Kraang are evil and I'd argue that was supposed to be the impression the reader was supposed to get when they were first introduced until the end the big space arc. Not to mention we've had actual evil Utroms in the later Mirage books and in the '03 show.
Now that may change with the introduction of Kraang Prime but so far I just see the name as homage to a similar looking character and nothing else. Another good example is Traag. If the Nick writers had called him something like Talos or Destructor would anyone have really thought General Traag?
As for....
the Technodrome. I'm on the fence of whether I'd like to see a newer, more alien design. I always felt the Technodrome was very terran in its design that I long assumed it was built on earth. If it's going to be from Dimension-X then maybe it should have a less earth-like look perhaps the earlier suggestion was correct at the floating vehicle in the trailer is it even though part of me would like a more faithful visual interpretation.
NinjaPug
08-01-2013, 10:10 PM
One of the writers, and he's not working on the show past Season 1.
The same season that Kraang Prime and The Kraang in general are introduced.
Didn't they originally say Kraang Prime was a female queen...and then changed their minds and made him male?
Things change and characters evolve.
If by 'they' you mean you, then yes. You went crazy when you assumed Prime was a female.
Are we really going to have this argument over again?
Jester
08-01-2013, 10:17 PM
Didn't they originally say Kraang Prime was a female queen...and then changed their minds and made him male?
Things change and characters evolve.
It was never confirmed that Kraang Prime was female. We all assumed since an ACTRESS was voicing him he'd be female. We were wrong.
Kinda like the idea that we NEED a THE Krang.....
Coola Yagami
08-01-2013, 10:19 PM
Now that you mention it.... we did always say the Kraang was a hivemind and they'd have a leader. Some people here ASSUMED the leader would be female, like the Borg Queen or the Alien Queen, but Nick themselves never said it would be female, even with Roseanne voicing it.
CyberCubed
08-01-2013, 10:20 PM
It was never confirmed that Kraang Prime was female. We all assumed since an ACTRESS was voicing him he'd be female. We were wrong.
Kinda like the idea that we NEED a THE Krang.....
No, I'm pretty sure Rob Paulsen said something about a "female Kraang" in one of the early podcasts interviews and that's why everyone assumed Kraang Prime was a hive queen character.
Before we even knew about Kraang Prime, people kept talking about a female Kraang on the forums. Rob Paulsen was the first to bring it up.
Jester
08-01-2013, 10:24 PM
No, I'm pretty sure Rob Paulsen said something about a "female Kraang" in one of the early podcasts interviews and that's why everyone assumed Kraang Prime was a hive queen character.
That's just ONE voice actor....who has no hand in writing the scripts.
Konchadunga
08-01-2013, 10:29 PM
Let's not forget he made fancomics to finish the otherwise-incomplete Volume 3, with some of the actual people involved. That alone is something awesome.
All of which makes his other behavior all the more repugnant. Dissing something people love on a forum full of the people who love it, in full knowledge of that fact, is, in fact, tantamount to dissing them. There is nothing at all to be accomplished from doing it, except for making yourself look like a dick. If Andrew can go and make a continuation for Volume 3, then good for him (though last I checked, even many Mirage fans don't like Volume 3), but why isn't that sort of constructive thing the only thing he does? I, for one, have a lot of stuff I hate; including popular things--among them, Dragonball Z, Invader Zim, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Rejected, ET, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and more stuff that makes me so unpopular, I don't even dare to say it. Yet am I going on any forums for people who love those things, and dissing them? No; because I'm not a dick. I'm content just to go to communities for people who love the same things as I do, so why respect people who aren't?
I, for one, am ashamed Krang and Shredder are so liberal to let these people stay on. They were kind enough to give all incarnations a forum; not just the ones they founded the site on, and some creeps insist on going to "enemy territory" and stirring crap up? That doesn't say anything good about the purists, and I'm not picking sides here; I wish Alliance and the other Fred Wolf purists were gone, too. But purism for or against anything is about the worst thing you can have on a forum that's supposed to welcome all incarnations. Actually no; purism is one of the worst things in any circumstance.
CyberCubed
08-01-2013, 10:29 PM
That's just ONE voice actor....who has no hand in writing the scripts.
But he knew about it, so likely it was from production or early scripts that had Kraang Prime as female. They probably changed it to a male later on in the season.
Donatello19
08-01-2013, 10:31 PM
So, Is Kraang Prime a male, a female..or unknown? Or is it just a genderless alien so we refer to it as IT? I'm confused..
Jester
08-01-2013, 10:37 PM
The difference between going to a RHPS forum or any of the others listed is there's ONE RHPS. TMNT has many different facets and variations.
As for Alliance...he does NOTHING aside from rip the 4Kids series. Andrew's finished the Image volume, was working on a massive world hopping book with Jim Lawson in Odyssey. He may be vocally, "Mirage or nothing!" but he's "paid his dues."
Konchadunga
08-01-2013, 10:41 PM
Dues? There are no dues here; free speech is free speech. Andrew has a right to his opinion, but so do I and Zarius have a right to ours, and mine, and presumably his, is that Andrew is a whiny prick. If he gets to boo the Fred Wolf series (and anything else), then I and Zarius get to boo him. It's his choice.
Jester
08-01-2013, 10:45 PM
So booing an aspect of a fandom is equal to booing a PERSON!?
There's a difference between speaking your mind about a freakin' comic book franchise and TV series, but when it comes to personal attacks on an individual? There is a difference.
Powder
08-01-2013, 10:47 PM
My turtles are better than your turtles!
Your condition is showing.
ToTheNines
08-01-2013, 10:52 PM
It was never confirmed that Kraang Prime was female. We all assumed since an ACTRESS was voicing him he'd be female. We were wrong.
Kinda like the idea that we NEED a THE Krang.....
I think you're thinking about back when we got news that Casandra Peterson was cast. It was said that she was going to be voicing the female Kraang, but she ended up voicing Mrs. Campbell/random Kraangdroid.
Jester
08-01-2013, 10:54 PM
I think you're thinking about back when we got news that Casandra Peterson was cast. It was said that she was going to be voicing the female Kraang, but she ended up voicing Mrs. Campbell/random Kraangdroid.
You know...you're right. Heck, I think even Rob Paulsen was saying that SHE was the female Kraang.
Thanks for the clear up.
Konchadunga
08-01-2013, 10:59 PM
So booing an aspect of a fandom is equal to booing a PERSON!?
There's a difference between speaking your mind about a freakin' comic book franchise and TV series, but when it comes to personal attacks on an individual? There is a difference.
Not for me. Not when you know that dissing a thing in a certain place will annoy people. There's a difference between stealing from someone and holding someone captive, technically, but that doesn't mean you necessarily spare the latter as punishment for the former.
Avatar Yuffie
08-01-2013, 11:00 PM
I'm actually... not surprised?
I got the "OMG Technodrome of the modern adaptation!" rush from Turtles Forever.
Jester
08-01-2013, 11:11 PM
Not for me. Not when you know that dissing a thing in a certain place will annoy people. There's a difference between stealing from someone and holding someone captive, technically, but that doesn't mean you necessarily spare the latter as punishment for the former.
It may ANNOY people, but personal attacks aren't necessary. Believe me, Andrew knows I disagree with him, but there was a lot of venom in that diatribe. You are using a huge false equivalency. Andrew's disdain for the other branches of the TMNT tree is just that, an opinion. The post Zarius made could almost be considered libelous, if you wanna push it.
In the end, I'm sure Mr. Modeen could care less about this whole thing, and to be honest we really are derailing the thread.
Chicagoguy
08-01-2013, 11:14 PM
I didn't mean to cause an argument in regards to Kraang Prime and if it is or isn't THE Krang. Personally I've loved every incarnation of the TMNT from Mirage to Image to Archie to IDW to all three cartoon series. As long as the stories are well done and the TMNT remain who they are at their cores, then I will be always be happy.
In any case, I was able to find some more spoilers about the finale. I googled the name of the book that I mentioned and came upon the following website: books.google.com/books?isbn=0307982254
It basically provides a preview of random pages from that book. I didn't read any of it, but it does have a few cool drawings including one of Kraang Prime in an OT like bodysuit Again, I'm sure the text contains spoilers, but I'm not going to read it to find out. Enjoy!
Konchadunga
08-01-2013, 11:26 PM
I've gotta say, so far I'm a lot more impressed by this show's repurposing of Fred Wolf aspects than I am with IDW's. IDW is commendable for just how audacious it was for building an ultimate universe, but so far, about the only thing it's really done with such characters as Krang and the Neutrinos is remove their humor and make them tougher. Once the rush of seeing them again wears off, I really don't care that much for the new incarnations of them. This show, on the other hand, is happy to take old ideas and run all over the place with them. Their Kraang are tougher than Krang in the OT, but on top of that, they have their own fun quirks. Rat King is much scarier than OT rat king, but that's not all they did; they also gave him a backstory. Same with having a Baxter who's something other than an up-and-coming mad scientist, and giving Karai a new scene girl aesthetic. This show goes the extra mile.
Zarius has a point, but as with all the points he makes, they're quite sharp.
Wait a minute.....If the Technodrome is gonna be in the show....THAN THAT MEANS THERE WILL (most likely) BE A PLAY SET OF IT!!!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/0b00efc94b77d03cb85ff3c57a85c1b3/tumblr_mgb5lhMDc61r740jmo1_500.gif
That's cute as hell.
Powder
08-01-2013, 11:44 PM
I've gotta say, so far I'm a lot more impressed by this show's repurposing of Fred Wolf aspects than I am with IDW's. IDW is commendable for just how audacious it was for building an ultimate universe, but so far, about the only thing it's really done with such characters as Krang and the Neutrinos is remove their humor and make them tougher. Once the rush of seeing them again wears off, I really don't care that much for the new incarnations of them. This show, on the other hand, is happy to take old ideas and run all over the place with them. Their Kraang are tougher than Krang in the OT, but on top of that, they have their own fun quirks. Rat King is much scarier than OT rat king, but that's not all they did; they also gave him a backstory. Same with having a Baxter who's something other than an up-and-coming mad scientist, and giving Karai a new scene girl aesthetic. This show goes the extra mile.
I couldn't agree more.
CyberCubed
08-02-2013, 12:06 AM
I've gotta say, so far I'm a lot more impressed by this show's repurposing of Fred Wolf aspects than I am with IDW's. IDW is commendable for just how audacious it was for building an ultimate universe, but so far, about the only thing it's really done with such characters as Krang and the Neutrinos is remove their humor and make them tougher. Once the rush of seeing them again wears off, I really don't care that much for the new incarnations of them. This show, on the other hand, is happy to take old ideas and run all over the place with them. Their Kraang are tougher than Krang in the OT, but on top of that, they have their own fun quirks. Rat King is much scarier than OT rat king, but that's not all they did; they also gave him a backstory. Same with having a Baxter who's something other than an up-and-coming mad scientist, and giving Karai a new scene girl aesthetic. This show goes the extra mile.
The nick show is very humor heavy. IDW is not.
If anything IDW has the same tone as the 4kids series. Its story driven.
Konchadunga
08-02-2013, 12:28 AM
The nick show is very humor heavy. IDW is not.
If anything IDW has the same tone as the 4kids series. Its story driven.
Though you're correct, that ends up making it pretty dull when I'm already very familiar with prior incarnations. I admit I liked their Fugitoid revamp better than the original, and didn't ever see the twist coming, but other than that, most elements have just fallen into their predictable places with little to make revisiting them worth it. Either they're reusing Mirage/4Kids characters (with the exception of some, like Angel, they're about the same) with hardly any more aspects than they had before, or else they're revamping Fred Wolf characters in a way that gets rid of their humor and personalities, exposing that without those things, there's really not a lot there.
IDW's series seems like it operates on pure nostalgia and video game/toy logic; that is, it thinks mere inclusion of beloved characters and elements is enough to make people happy. Yet as cool as it is to see old elements rendered in cool new ways, that's what Google Image Search is for. Books are supposed to offer depth. I do enjoy the series somewhat, but after so much wide-but-narrow fanservice, I occasionally find myself wishing it would just do something new; a sentiment I never thought I'd express when I first started reading the series.
Luckyday
08-02-2013, 12:33 AM
I've gotta say, so far I'm a lot more impressed by this show's repurposing of Fred Wolf aspects than I am with IDW's. IDW is commendable for just how audacious it was for building an ultimate universe, but so far, about the only thing it's really done with such characters as Krang and the Neutrinos is remove their humor and make them tougher. Once the rush of seeing them again wears off, I really don't care that much for the new incarnations of them. This show, on the other hand, is happy to take old ideas and run all over the place with them. Their Kraang are tougher than Krang in the OT, but on top of that, they have their own fun quirks. Rat King is much scarier than OT rat king, but that's not all they did; they also gave him a backstory. Same with having a Baxter who's something other than an up-and-coming mad scientist, and giving Karai a new scene girl aesthetic. This show goes the extra mile.
For all the flank Ciro gets, the man has talent of taking old stuff and make them feel new and exciting. The Neutrino in the IDW were a huge disappointment but I'm looking forward to see what kind of re-imagine is in store in the Nick universe.
Konchadunga
08-02-2013, 03:23 AM
Have we proof that any is? At any rate, I would feel let down if Mikey and Kala's romance from the Fred Wolf show is not revived and developed, and holy crap; why am I saying that?!
shredder orokusaki
08-02-2013, 03:42 AM
I didn't mean to cause an argument in regards to Kraang Prime and if it is or isn't THE Krang. Personally I've loved every incarnation of the TMNT from Mirage to Image to Archie to IDW to all three cartoon series. As long as the stories are well done and the TMNT remain who they are at their cores, then I will be always be happy.
In any case, I was able to find some more spoilers about the finale. I googled the name of the book that I mentioned and came upon the following website: books.google.com/books?isbn=0307982254
It basically provides a preview of random pages from that book. I didn't read any of it, but it does have a few cool drawings including one of Kraang Prime in an OT like bodysuit Again, I'm sure the text contains spoilers, but I'm not going to read it to find out. Enjoy!
I click the link but i dont see any screenshots or drawings. Where are they? Wow! it Kraang prime will be in a OT robot body too?!
Jester
08-02-2013, 03:46 AM
On page 28....is that...Wingnut's wing?
shredder orokusaki
08-02-2013, 03:57 AM
How can i see the pages??
Jester
08-02-2013, 03:58 AM
Say please....
And...maybe click the "preview" link next to the author's names....or the link itself.
Leo656
08-02-2013, 04:03 AM
:) I was gonna say "with your eyes" but I'll let you have this one J. You've earned it.
As far as the never-ending war between Andrew and Zarius, or Mirage Purists and OT fans in general... well...
http://memecrunch.com/meme/LRZ5/y-all-need-jesus/image.png
shredder orokusaki
08-02-2013, 04:26 AM
There is not preivew links . It shows only the author names and a screenshot of the book but there is no any preview link.
Jester
08-02-2013, 04:44 AM
Don't say I never did nothin' for ya.... (http://books.google.com/books?id=8geaSmFBGh4C&printsec=frontcover&dq=isbn:0307982254&hl=en&sa=X&ei=R3_7UbmWI4-zqQGHtIGAAQ&ved=0CDMQuwUwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false)
Leo656
08-02-2013, 04:49 AM
http://www.heyyocreations1.com/enash/vinny/007.jpg
Kevin Nash Approves. Good show, Jester old boy.
shredder orokusaki
08-02-2013, 04:50 AM
This is the link that i click. But where is the preview? I dont see any preview there.
Jester
08-02-2013, 04:52 AM
Then I don't know what to do...it should open right to the preview.
shredder orokusaki
08-02-2013, 05:21 AM
It dosent matter. Maybe the preview is region locked? In 6 days we will see the episode anyway.
ToTheNines
08-02-2013, 05:23 AM
On page 28....is that...Wingnut's wing?
No. It's one of the turtles' gliders.
marcelangelo
08-02-2013, 06:22 AM
I may disagree with Andrew, but Zarius often is just as inflammatory.
Heaven forbid we have differing opinions....you're never gonna sway Andrew and he's never gonna sway you. The net result of both of those posts comes to a big goose egg. At least Andrew didn't result to petty name calling and sniping about "never amounting to anything." He likes what he likes...and is vocal about it. I can't remember a time where ever said anything negative about FANS of the FW series, just the series itself.
yes, I agree very much with you jester here...
why dont leave one alone if you dont like something too much?
andrew isnt thrilled to see these things and he name it, but does that REALLY flush away the joy of those who are happy to see this happening in the show?
I dont like naysayers comments particularly(like andrew did here) but why personally attack him?its tmnt, chill down, man...
drgon78
08-02-2013, 06:36 AM
Nice little preview, I wonder how close it will be to the actual show.
Konchadunga
08-02-2013, 06:45 AM
I'm wondering why the Shredder is named in the title, despite Kraang Prime being the apparent villain.
electric_sheep
08-02-2013, 07:06 AM
I'm wondering why the Shredder is named in the title, despite Kraang Prime being the apparent villain.
why would you name your self after ninja turtles porn? and not a good one...
NinjaMan
08-02-2013, 07:58 AM
On page 28....is that...Wingnut's wing?
It's the gliders the turtles are shown using in the trailer.
Coola Yagami
08-02-2013, 09:40 AM
I click the link but i dont see any screenshots or drawings. Where are they? Wow! it Kraang prime will be in a OT robot body too?!
I doubt it since the trailer already showed him in a giant metal tentacle body device thing. He's so big I don't think he needs a robot body. The others kinda do to hide in the public and to make up for being little guys you can step on.
Raphaeline
08-02-2013, 10:07 AM
This is the link that i click. But where is the preview? I dont see any preview there.
There is no preview either for me, when I click on the link. Must be locked or something, only for US readers?
But I can see the preview if I click on the Amazon link then click again on the cover.
drgon78
08-02-2013, 11:22 AM
I never understood why they have to region lock everything, has it always been that way?
BubblyShell22
08-02-2013, 12:10 PM
Whoa. Awesome preview and makes me even more excited for the finale, though I wish they had more of the pages in there. Still, for what it is, it sounds like it'll be a great finale.
Electric
08-02-2013, 12:58 PM
KARAI IS THERE! well, if this is actually close to the show.
Karai apparently fights april, and captures her
Donatello19
08-02-2013, 01:17 PM
Ergghhh...I'm trying my best to not read the entire preview...but the art in that book is awesome! And this confirms that we'll see Karai, Dogpound and Fishface in the finale, which is great.
BubblyShell22
08-02-2013, 05:15 PM
Yes, the illustrations are awesome. So can't wait for the finale.
And as far as Andrew is concerned, what he said in this thread was really in poor taste. It's one thing to prefer one medium of TMNT over another, but it's another to be so condescending about it to the point that you act like what you like is better than anything else and that what other people like doesn't matter. So, that's my two cents.
MikeandRaph87
08-02-2013, 05:25 PM
Because one of the writers said Kraang Prime isn't Krang. The Kraang is based off OT Krang/Utroms.
Yes, the illustrations are awesome. So can't wait for the finale.
And as far as Andrew is concerned, what he said in this thread was really in poor taste. It's one thing to prefer one medium of TMNT over another, but it's another to be so condescending about it to the point that you act like what you like is better than anything else and that what other people like doesn't matter. So, that's my two cents.
Andrew is not just extremely prejudice against anything that is not a black and white comic but harsh to those of us who could care less about the violent and unadapting comics. When that whole color of mask war started simply because I was psyched the mask colors were to be fixed in IDW he called me out and blasted my ignorance that his type of fan exsisted for no reason at all. That ignorant slip of stating such not knowing a fan such as he exsisted (the exact opposite of me) chased me off this site for a few weeks because of the flame war I had no intention of starting up and then posting after me calling me "one of those fans" whatever that meant and making me feel uncomfortable. Its much more peaceful when he is not on. Free opinions are allowed of course but bullying others who don't care for the black and white stuff or outright hate Image (such as myself) needs to stop.
MikeandRaph87
08-02-2013, 05:28 PM
So Krang Prime is like the king of his race opposed to a queen bee type that predicted because of the lack of intellect and sameness of the kraang and the fact a woman was voicing the character?
The Technodrome is the Deathstar? Interesting take not to mention only two villain bases can rival the Technodrome and one of those is the the Death Star and the other is Legion of Doom headquarters (the darth vader helmet that can naviagte through space,time, and water).
Konchadunga
08-02-2013, 05:39 PM
why would you name your self after ninja turtles porn? and not a good one...
Off topic, and didn't deserve a quote, but still, it's a good question, and I regret to admit I have no good answer. I signed up here because I wanted to post, and it was either the first thing that popped into my head, or the best of several terrible ideas; I don't even remember which. Maybe I was thinking, "what can I do that's a really obscure nod that few fans will get, but those who do will snicker at?"
I should note that initially, I also had the lyrics (all three of them) to the theme song in huge letters as my original signature, but that was apparently too obvious to people who know Spanish (or are just familiar with YouTube poops), so Master Splinter removed it. I haven't gotten busted for my name or avatar, though.
Also, is there such a thing as good Ninja Turtles porn? Besides Rainbow-Flyer's?
CyberCubed
08-02-2013, 06:47 PM
If Kraang Prime wears a unique android body similar to Krang's than that is the deal clincher for me. It IS Krang.
Jester
08-02-2013, 07:09 PM
If Kraang Prime wears a unique android body similar to Krang's than that is the deal clincher for me. It IS Krang.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120402003613/creepypasta/images/e/ec/Broken_record2.jpg
Coola Yagami
08-02-2013, 07:30 PM
If Kraang Prime wears a unique android body similar to Krang's than that is the deal clincher for me. It IS Krang.
So you didn't see the metallic tentacle thing he was wearing in the trailer? Unlike the pint sized normal Kraang, it seems Kraang prime doesn't need to use a suit.
Master Splinter
08-02-2013, 08:12 PM
...so Master Splinter removed it. I haven't gotten busted for my name or avatar, though.
I'm not a mod, I can't change signatures. I merely pointed it out.
-ms
Coola Yagami
08-02-2013, 09:06 PM
Ergghhh...I'm trying my best to not read the entire preview...but the art in that book is awesome! And this confirms that we'll see Karai, Dogpound and Fishface in the finale, which is great.
I kinda assumed they'd be there but it's nice to get confirmation. Also I do hope Dogpound and Fishface survive. I'd hate to see then leave the show before they had a chance to appear in the tmnt animated adventures comics.
NinjaPug
08-02-2013, 09:34 PM
Good find with the book preview. It was a nice sample to hold me over until the finale on Thursday.
- Where are people seeing Dogpound and FishFace are in it? I read each page from the preview but didn't see them mentioned.
- Interesting that Shredder is using the Mousers. Does that mean Baxter is back working for him?
Electric
08-02-2013, 10:43 PM
Ergghhh...I'm trying my best to not read the entire preview...but the art in that book is awesome! And this confirms that we'll see Karai, Dogpound and Fishface in the finale, which is great.
the one book linked here in the thread honestly doesnt give too much out at all, just the set up and a little bit further in, almost a teaser really.
Donatello19
08-03-2013, 11:24 AM
Good find with the book preview. It was a nice sample to hold me over until the finale on Thursday.
- Where are people seeing Dogpound and FishFace are in it? I read each page from the preview but didn't see them mentioned.
- Interesting that Shredder is using the Mousers. Does that mean Baxter is back working for him?
-There are pictures of them on certain pages
-Something called spoiler tags..:roll:
NinjaPug
08-03-2013, 11:42 AM
-There are pictures of them on certain pages
-Something called spoiler tags..:roll:
The thread is called Season 1 Finale Spoilers. One should expect spoilers in the thread.
Shark_Blade
08-03-2013, 12:17 PM
One does not simply walk in here without reading any spoilers.
Retro-Specs
08-03-2013, 01:12 PM
OK, frankly I find most of this awesome. I'd say my prediction of the end of season one is:
The Technodrome ends up underground/under the sea/in the arctic, and Shredder, the Kraang and Kraang Prime (and likely Dogpound and Fishface) will be stuck on it, all reminiscent of the OT series. All through season 2 (and perhaps beyond) Shredder and Kraang Prime will work together to repower and repair the Technodrome to come back to the surface - again, like the OT, but with some new twists.
Meanwhile, while Shredder may be sending his mutants to the surface now and then to steal stuff, there will also be a bigger concentration on the side villains while the Kraang are less prevalent being stuck in the Technodrome. Likely Baxter, Rat King, and some new villains will have several moments in the spotlight while the others are subdued.
Lastly, it'd be interesting if Karai does not get stuck on the Technodrome. Maybe she finds out she's Miwa, and runs away before the Technodrome is defeated, and ends up a stand alone villain on the surface. Or disappears for a while.
But what do you guys think?
BubblyShell22
08-03-2013, 05:17 PM
That's an awesome theory, RS. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if that happened. I can't add anything to that theory as it's just so good. All I know is I'm stoked for the finale and am counting down the days.
Refractive Reflections
08-03-2013, 06:02 PM
I kind of figured this would happen...
that the Technodrome would appear eventually since there was the "Kraang" after all. :ohwell: I just hope that its introduction doesn't parallel to close to the OT.
...And Andrew NDB, if the other versions of TMNT outside of Mirage bother you that much, why do you continue to torture yourself in watching/reading them then? :lol: Your commentaries are actually more hilarious than serious that you would continually go back to watching a show, again and again, that does nothing but disappoint you at nearly every turn.
C'mon now... Do your happiness a favor, and actually start watching/reading something else that you are actually going to enjoy. Anyone else in your position, and with the same harsh/pessimistic viewpoints of the Nick series would have quit watching the Nick series loooong time ago, and actually spend their time doing something that they enjoy. ...Unless your insatiable thirst for anything TMNT compels you to watch the Nick series.:ohwell:
I'm just sayin'...
Jester
08-03-2013, 06:14 PM
I think he watches it with his kid...
NinjaPug
08-04-2013, 12:57 PM
Based on the book preview it looks like the Splinter / Shredder fight goes on for a while. Can't wait to see Splinter's reaction to Shredder after Shredder says the following to him:
"And your own daughter will go through her life cursing your name"
MikeandRaph87
08-04-2013, 01:02 PM
Based on the book preview it looks like the Splinter / Shredder fight goes on for a while. Can't wait to see Splinter's reaction to Shredder after Shredder says the following to him:
"And your own daughter will go through her life cursing your name"
Then Splinter will approach Karai and say, "Karai, I am your father!" thne she will scream "NOOOOO!" and Leonardo will join her screaming "NOOOOO!" realizing he had a crush on his step sister.:lol:
Retro-Specs
08-04-2013, 03:36 PM
Based on the book preview it looks like the Splinter / Shredder fight goes on for a while. Can't wait to see Splinter's reaction to Shredder after Shredder says the following to him:
"And your own daughter will go through her life cursing your name"
Did it actually say that in the book somewhere, or did you come up with that?
I'd find it a little surprising if Shredder himself reveals who Karai really is. Did he raise Karai - for 16 years - just for this spiteful moment of having her help to destroy her own, true father.
But maybe he will? Shredder's obsession with this vendetta is downright unhealthy. Maybe he'll expand his horizons a bit and decide to try and conquer the world, now that he's working with the Kraang...
Oh, and seriously - if anyone has bought this book and read it, I'd love to see a list of spoilers!
NinjaPug
08-04-2013, 04:44 PM
Did it actually say that in the book somewhere, or did you come up with that?
I'd find it a little surprising if Shredder himself reveals who Karai really is. Did he raise Karai - for 16 years - just for this spiteful moment of having her help to destroy her own, true father.
But maybe he will? Shredder's obsession with this vendetta is downright unhealthy. Maybe he'll expand his horizons a bit and decide to try and conquer the world, now that he's working with the Kraang...
Oh, and seriously - if anyone has bought this book and read it, I'd love to see a list of spoilers!
It said it in the book. Page 100.
Raphaeline
08-04-2013, 05:21 PM
So it's a book full of spoilers :lol:
BubblyShell22
08-04-2013, 05:48 PM
I would love it if Karai found out she was really Miwa in the finale, but we'll have to wait and see if that happens. Heck, they've hinted at it so much already, it's bound to happen sometime.
drgon78
08-04-2013, 06:34 PM
Well just because Shredder tells Splinter doesn't mean Karai was around to find out.
demoman
08-04-2013, 06:42 PM
everyone noticed, right? we're all able to read different parts of the preview. for example, I got to read the very beginning and the very end, with the technodrome blinking back online, but I didn't get to read any part of the splinter vs shredder dialogue.
raph27
08-04-2013, 06:50 PM
Guys......what if the giant metal floaty thing is the Drome?:o
Retro-Specs
08-04-2013, 08:44 PM
Guys......what if the giant metal floaty thing is the Drome?:o
I'm thinking it is.
Refractive Reflections
08-04-2013, 09:23 PM
I think he watches it with his kid...
Yeah but not every parent has to watch what their kids watch, especially if he despises the cartoon that much...:lol: But whatever its his voluntary misfortune.
Leofan26
08-04-2013, 09:26 PM
For those who have read the book, does it explain why Leo is falling?
WhitefinDolphin
08-04-2013, 09:59 PM
http://images.wikia.com/glee/images/9/95/This-is-gonna-be-good.gif
DonatelloNinja82
08-04-2013, 10:22 PM
Then Splinter will approach Karai and say, "Karai, I am your father!" thne she will scream "NOOOOO!" and Leonardo will join her screaming "NOOOOO!" realizing he had a crush on his step sister.:lol:
Hahahaha! That would be the best scene ever.
MikeandRaph87
08-04-2013, 10:34 PM
Hahahaha! That would be the best scene ever.
The way the plot has developed that would be the set up reaction...*shrugs*
As long as the step sibblings accept it and develop a friendly rivalry training to be the better instead of the way this pair of step sibblings shrugged it off when unlike them they knew from the onset of thier parents engagement...:tlol:
Lets hope Leo and Karai don't shrug it off like Greg and Marcia did. http://s.mcstatic.com/thumb/8466416/22501089/4/flash_player/0/1/a_very_brady_sequel_marcia_and_greg_kiss.jpg?v=2
Konchadunga
08-04-2013, 10:43 PM
Yeah but not every parent has to watch what their kids watch, especially if he despises the cartoon that much...:lol: But whatever its his voluntary misfortune.
My guess is that more than hating watching the show, he just loves dissing it.
Although, if his kid is "forcing" him to watch it, then I can sort of get where he's coming from; I could easily see his kid finding his old stash of Mirage books, learning he's a fan, and then inviting him to watch the new series with completely pure intentions.
Donatello19
08-04-2013, 11:36 PM
I am so prepared for the finale, and I'm glad it premieres at night because then I could snack during it...
http://www.toplessrobot.com/pile%20of%20candy.jpg
I hope I can make do with the few provisions I have :P
Zulithe
08-04-2013, 11:38 PM
Halloween came early this year
Donatello19
08-04-2013, 11:43 PM
Halloween came early this year
It sure did...:lol: BTW, that's not an actual photo of candy I have..
Members who just read that statement:
http://img7.joyreactor.cc/pics/comment/гифки-беговая-дорожка-fail-422067.png
But trust me I will be stocking up on candy and other goodies to ring in the finale with. Some of it will even be turtle themed, like Pizza Rolls :P
victory_angel
08-04-2013, 11:45 PM
I've got the kettle corn ready for the show.
Zulithe
08-04-2013, 11:47 PM
8pm is the PERFECT time for the premier! I'm gonna have PIZZA, biosh!
*edit* omg immediately after posting this I went to my favorite pizza place's site to see what their pizza-of-the-day would be for Friday...
They are closed all next week!!! For renovations :|
Maybe i'll just have frozen pizza O__o
Donatello19
08-04-2013, 11:51 PM
I've got the kettle corn ready for the show.
Ooh, I LOVE kettle corn..definitely getting that for the premiere as well!
8pm is the PERFECT time for the premier! I'm gonna have PIZZA, biosh!
IKR? So far my snacks for the night include the new TMNT fruit snacks and pizza rolls...oh, and also some kettle corn with M&M's. That should do it. But if I find those TMNT magic milk straws before the premiere, they will be added to said list :lol:
Captain PunchYouHard
08-05-2013, 12:01 AM
new TMNT fruit snacks
WHERE. I need those for the nostalgia.
Donatello19
08-05-2013, 12:06 AM
WHERE. I need those for the nostalgia.
Oh, you haven't heard about them?
http://media.shopwell.com/gladson/00016000451599_full.jpg
I found my box at an A&P store, but stores like Walmart, Stop and Shop, and many other grocery stores carry them. Heck, Walmart even has them on their website. Well, good luck finding them!
DonatelloNinja82
08-05-2013, 12:20 AM
Ohhhh yes...TMNT fruit snacks are a staple in my house now. My kids have gotten the HUGEST kick out of them, and I am so happy they are starting to come out with TMNT related food. They need more! Spagettio's, cereal, bring it on! :tcool: And I found the ones I get at Market Basket, but that store is strictly New England, I believe.
Captain PunchYouHard
08-05-2013, 12:35 AM
Oh, you haven't heard about them?
http://media.shopwell.com/gladson/00016000451599_full.jpg
I found my box at an A&P store, but stores like Walmart, Stop and Shop, and many other grocery stores carry them. Heck, Walmart even has them on their website. Well, good luck finding them!
Thanks!
When I was a kid many many years ago, my dad would secretly buy me TMNT fruit snacks during my weekends with him, among all the other TMNT stuff he let me have/do because my mom wouldn't. Well, after returning home one time, she found a TMNT fruit snacks packet in my pocket. Hilarity with a lot of screaming over the phone ensued. So yeah, gotta have 'em. :D
Coola Yagami
08-05-2013, 01:47 AM
Yeah but not every parent has to watch what their kids watch, especially if he despises the cartoon that much...:lol: But whatever its his voluntary misfortune.
I think he likes the show. He mentioned he liked the Parasitica episode quite a bit. I think he just likes to poke fun at the show's plotholes and roll his eyes whenever a FW references comes up. He does have a point about the Mutagen being wacky, unpredictable and all over the place in terms of logic. Like.. why were the wasps in Parasitica just.... giant wasps... instead of like... Waspman or something?
BubblyShell22
08-05-2013, 07:22 AM
Yeah, I've seen the TMNT fruit snacks before. I'm not sure if I'll have any snack food for the premiere, but I might.
MikeandRaph87
08-05-2013, 08:00 AM
I think he likes the show. He mentioned he liked the Parasitica episode quite a bit. I think he just likes to poke fun at the show's plotholes and roll his eyes whenever a FW references comes up. He does have a point about the Mutagen being wacky, unpredictable and all over the place in terms of logic. Like.. why were the wasps in Parasitica just.... giant wasps... instead of like... Waspman or something?
I am shocked to learn he has a family of his own considering his rude and hateful demeanor. As for the unpredicitable nature of the mutagen Pulverizer proved that. It makes one wonder if there is a time limit on the animal contact or if there is no other species dna on one to cause the mutation. I am betting on the latter.
Try Wal-Mart,Bubblyshell22. I found them there on Saturday. Thought about getting it but I never was one for fruit snacks and it would just sit there. The last time I think I had it to eat was when the original cartoon version was discontinued. :trazz:
Refractive Reflections
08-05-2013, 04:23 PM
So since we know that the...
Technodrome will make an appearance in the Nick series.
How many of you think these forums are going to have a surge of new users after that episode debuts? :lol: I mean since this website shares the same name.
Raphaeline
08-05-2013, 05:11 PM
I didn't think about that, but when the young public discovers the technodrome with the Nick series, they might come here, yes.
If they don't know the old series it means they must be quite young though :ohwell:
BubblyShell22
08-05-2013, 05:16 PM
I am shocked to learn he has a family of his own considering his rude and hateful demeanor. As for the unpredicitable nature of the mutagen Pulverizer proved that. It makes one wonder if there is a time limit on the animal contact or if there is no other species dna on one to cause the mutation. I am betting on the latter.
Try Wal-Mart,Bubblyshell22. I found them there on Saturday. Thought about getting it but I never was one for fruit snacks and it would just sit there. The last time I think I had it to eat was when the original cartoon version was discontinued. :trazz:
I've seen them at Walmart, too. I just haven't gotten them. I meant that I may have some snacks for the premiere or I may not. It depends on my mood.
TheJ-manTurtleMan
08-05-2013, 08:32 PM
So I picked up the book at Barnes and Noble today and read the whole thing and it was cowabungatastic! This is going to be an awesome episode! So many cool action scenes, a great story, and a few nice homages to other TMNT incarnations. I can not wait to watch it!
I'll post some spoilers if anyone wants me too, but you should wait and see the whole thing :twink:
MikeandRaph87
08-05-2013, 08:36 PM
So I picked up the book at Barnes and Noble today and read the whole thing and it was cowabungatastic! This is going to be an awesome episode! So many cool action scenes, a great story, and a few nice homages to other TMNT incarnations. I can not wait to watch it!
I'll post some spoilers if anyone wants me too, but you should wait and see the whole thing :twink:
I listened to the entire Turtles Forever SDCC recording and it did not deter the excitement of seeing the '87 cartoon characters again so why not put a spoiler tag around it and let us choose to if we want to or not.
Retro-Specs
08-05-2013, 08:59 PM
So I picked up the book at Barnes and Noble today and read the whole thing and it was cowabungatastic! This is going to be an awesome episode! So many cool action scenes, a great story, and a few nice homages to other TMNT incarnations. I can not wait to watch it!
I'll post some spoilers if anyone wants me too, but you should wait and see the whole thing :twink:
I concur! I'd love some spoilers, if you're willing to type them out. I don't know what it is, but I love reading detailed plots and endings before seeing the show/movie. Doesn't ruin a thing for me.
So I say spoiler it up!
drgon78
08-05-2013, 09:05 PM
Yeah, but how close will the show be to this book, there might be some differences.
Retro-Specs
08-05-2013, 09:35 PM
Yeah, but how close will the show be to this book, there might be some differences.
I considered this already, especially based on other books I've read based on movies and shows.
You have to take any contents of such a book with a grain of salt, realizing that the author probably took some artistic liberties. Quotes likely won't be the same, details - especially in action scenes - could be left out, or new ones added.
Likely the author of this book was given a transcript of the episode with minor descriptions of scenes and actions - not a copy of the video itself. So this book would be more-or-less based on the final episode, not a written copy of it.
Nonetheless, I want to know what's in it! I imagine the plot points and action scenes will be pretty close to the actual episode.
TheJ-manTurtleMan
08-05-2013, 10:01 PM
I concur! I'd love some spoilers, if you're willing to type them out. I don't know what it is, but I love reading detailed plots and endings before seeing the show/movie. Doesn't ruin a thing for me.
So I say spoiler it up!
I feel the same way, Its like reading a book before you see the movie
Yeah, but how close will the show be to this book, there might be some differences.
I think it will be pretty close. The book probably cut some of the dialogue out, but the story is all there.
Okay, spoilers!
-The Technodrome does show up
-the Turtles break into TCRI to stop the Technodrome from coming to Earth from Dimension X
-There is a cool battle within TCRI with Meatalhead and Traag
-Kirby is under mind control, but by Shredder. He leads April out of the lair and gives her to the Karai and the foot clan
-Kirby then returns and gives a message to Splinter from Shredder that says the only save her to come and face him
-Dogpound and Fishface and the Mousers do have small cameos
-Splinter goes to save April alone, but it is a trap and he is forced a one on one battle with Shredder that pretty much lasts the entirety of the story
-Leo sacrifices himself to save his brothers and Earth, twice, and he survives, twice.
-It turns out April is Psychic, which is why Kraang Prime wants her. She steals April gift and transfers in to her own mind so she can power the Technodrome with her mind
-The turtles return to the Lair and return Kirby to normal and he tells the that Shredder gave April to the Kraang and she inside the Technodrome, so the Turtles break in to save her.
-We get to see Shredder's face!
-In the end everyone is saved and rescued, Kraang prime is defeated, the Technodrome is destroyed and everyone returns to lair to celebrate, which is where the party clip is from
But this is probably the biggest spoiler:
-It is revealed to Splinter that Karai is actually Miwa, They have a small battle where Karai says the her father told her that Splinter killed her mother. Unable to to do any more splinter disables both Karai and Shredder and escapes, sparing their lives. But he does not tell the turtles anything about what happened, Leo asks him about it, but his reply is, "That's for another time, Leonardo."
:tgrin:
Retro-Specs
08-05-2013, 10:31 PM
I feel the same way, Its like reading a book before you see the movie
I think it will be pretty close. The book probably cut some of the dialogue out, but the story is all there.
Okay, spoilers!
-The Technodrome does show up
-the Turtles break into TCRI to stop the Technodrome from coming to Earth from Dimension X
-There is a cool battle within TCRI with Meatalhead and Traag
-Kirby is under mind control, but by Shredder. He leads April out of the lair and gives her to the Karai and the foot clan
-Kirby then returns and gives a message to Splinter from Shredder that says the only save her to come and face him
-Dogpound and Fishface and the Mousers do have small cameos
-Splinter goes to save April alone, but it is a trap and he is forced a one on one battle with Shredder that pretty much lasts the entirety of the story
-Leo sacrifices himself to save his brothers and Earth, twice, and he survives, twice.
-It turns out April is Psychic, which is why Kraang Prime wants her. She steals April gift and transfers in to her own mind so she can power the Technodrome with her mind
-The turtles return to the Lair and return Kirby to normal and he tells the that Shredder gave April to the Kraang and she inside the Technodrome, so the Turtles break in to save her.
-We get to see Shredder's face!
-In the end everyone is saved and rescued, Kraang prime is defeated, the Technodrome is destroyed and everyone returns to lair to celebrate, which is where the party clip is from
But this is probably the biggest spoiler:
-It is revealed to Splinter that Karai is actually Miwa, They have a small battle where Karai says the her father told her that Splinter killed her mother. Unable to to do any more splinter disables both Karai and Shredder and escapes, sparing their lives. But he does not tell the turtles anything about what happened, Leo asks him about it, but his reply is, "That's for another time, Leonardo."
It's a Spoiler Spectacular! Thank you for posting this!
As for my insight on all this:
-So, the Kraang Prime is a she? I mean, the voice actress is female, yeah, but I thought the character was male.
-Splinter "disables" Karai and Shredder? Sounds like he leaves them together then. I was under the impression that Shredder might be stuck in the Technodrome.
-Speaking of which, I heard the T'Drome is stuck underwater, but can still function somewhat - is this true?
Of course, Splinter finding out who Karai really is - never guessed that Shredder would have told him. My big question is, does Karai herself have this revealed to her or not?
Anyway, this whole episode sounds awesome and I can't wait to see all of this on the screen!
snake
08-05-2013, 10:33 PM
I feel the same way, Its like reading a book before you see the movie
I think it will be pretty close. The book probably cut some of the dialogue out, but the story is all there.
Okay, spoilers!
-The Technodrome does show up
-the Turtles break into TCRI to stop the Technodrome from coming to Earth from Dimension X
-There is a cool battle within TCRI with Meatalhead and Traag
-Kirby is under mind control, but by Shredder. He leads April out of the lair and gives her to the Karai and the foot clan
-Kirby then returns and gives a message to Splinter from Shredder that says the only save her to come and face him
-Dogpound and Fishface and the Mousers do have small cameos
-Splinter goes to save April alone, but it is a trap and he is forced a one on one battle with Shredder that pretty much lasts the entirety of the story
-Leo sacrifices himself to save his brothers and Earth, twice, and he survives, twice.
-It turns out April is Psychic, which is why Kraang Prime wants her. She steals April gift and transfers in to her own mind so she can power the Technodrome with her mind
-The turtles return to the Lair and return Kirby to normal and he tells the that Shredder gave April to the Kraang and she inside the Technodrome, so the Turtles break in to save her.
-We get to see Shredder's face!
-In the end everyone is saved and rescued, Kraang prime is defeated, the Technodrome is destroyed and everyone returns to lair to celebrate, which is where the party clip is from
But this is probably the biggest spoiler:
-It is revealed to Splinter that Karai is actually Miwa, They have a small battle where Karai says the her father told her that Splinter killed her mother. Unable to to do any more splinter disables both Karai and Shredder and escapes, sparing their lives. But he does not tell the turtles anything about what happened, Leo asks him about it, but his reply is, "That's for another time, Leonardo."
:tgrin:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/0b00efc94b77d03cb85ff3c57a85c1b3/tumblr_mgb5lhMDc61r740jmo1_500.gif
This....Sounds....Soooooo...Good!!!
drgon78
08-05-2013, 10:56 PM
I figured April was psychic but that doesn't explain why she wasn't effected by the kraang water and some other things as well.
Does she get her powers back from Kraang Prime?
Electric
08-05-2013, 10:57 PM
might want to spoiler tag that^
drgon78
08-05-2013, 11:01 PM
I did but I did it wrong and was trying to fix it my bad.:toops:
TheJ-manTurtleMan
08-05-2013, 11:05 PM
It's a Spoiler Spectacular! Thank you for posting this!
As for my insight on all this:
-So, the Kraang Prime is a she? I mean, the voice actress is female, yeah, but I thought the character was male.
-Splinter "disables" Karai and Shredder? Sounds like he leaves them together then. I was under the impression that Shredder might be stuck in the Technodrome.
-Speaking of which, I heard the T'Drome is stuck underwater, but can still function somewhat - is this true?
Of course, Splinter finding out who Karai really is - never guessed that Shredder would have told him. My big question is, does Karai herself have this revealed to her or not?
Anyway, this whole episode sounds awesome and I can't wait to see all of this on the screen!
No problemo! This is fun!:tgrin:
Yeah, It doesn't really give the gender, I just assume its female because its voiced by a female and is kinda like a queen bee
-The whole Shredder VS Splinter takes place at the abandoned church
-The Technodrome does end up underwater, but is still somewhat functional! BUM, BUM BUUUUUUUUM!!!
Leofan26
08-05-2013, 11:11 PM
AAHHH!! Spoilers, my eye's!!! I shouldn't have clicked!!
On that subject, since I looked :lol:
So, I was hoping Karai's story wouldn't go that direction but guess that was expected :ohwell: Leo / Karai plot should be interesting fun one at this point, I imagine a brother / sister rivalry type, even if she does join or whatever.
Leo question
Why does Leo sacrifice himself twice and how does he survive?
Shark_Blade
08-05-2013, 11:13 PM
I ... can't. No I won't. I won't be spoiled!
It's only a few days more. Let me be delightedly surprised!
*flees from this thread*
Retro-Specs
08-06-2013, 12:15 AM
No problemo! This is fun!:tgrin:
Yeah, It doesn't really give the gender, I just assume its female because its voiced by a female and is kinda like a queen bee
-The whole Shredder VS Splinter takes place at the abandoned church
-The Technodrome does end up underwater, but is still somewhat functional! BUM, BUM BUUUUUUUUM!!!
Ah great! And yes, this is fun! So, can I assume that:
-Shredder (and Karai?) are left at the abandoned church at the end of the fight?
-Shredder does not join the Kraang so much that he gets on the Technodrome then?
Fishface and Dogpound make cameos - any indication of where they are/what they're doing in the end?
TheJ-manTurtleMan
08-06-2013, 01:47 AM
Ah great! And yes, this is fun! So, can I assume that:
-Shredder (and Karai?) are left at the abandoned church at the end of the fight?
-Shredder does not join the Kraang so much that he gets on the Technodrome then?
Fishface and Dogpound make cameos - any indication of where they are/what they're doing in the end?
Yes
Yes
and No :twink:
shredder orokusaki
08-06-2013, 01:55 AM
I feel the same way, Its like reading a book before you see the movie
I think it will be pretty close. The book probably cut some of the dialogue out, but the story is all there.
Okay, spoilers!
-The Technodrome does show up
-the Turtles break into TCRI to stop the Technodrome from coming to Earth from Dimension X
-There is a cool battle within TCRI with Meatalhead and Traag
-Kirby is under mind control, but by Shredder. He leads April out of the lair and gives her to the Karai and the foot clan
-Kirby then returns and gives a message to Splinter from Shredder that says the only save her to come and face him
-Dogpound and Fishface and the Mousers do have small cameos
-Splinter goes to save April alone, but it is a trap and he is forced a one on one battle with Shredder that pretty much lasts the entirety of the story
-Leo sacrifices himself to save his brothers and Earth, twice, and he survives, twice.
-It turns out April is Psychic, which is why Kraang Prime wants her. She steals April gift and transfers in to her own mind so she can power the Technodrome with her mind
-The turtles return to the Lair and return Kirby to normal and he tells the that Shredder gave April to the Kraang and she inside the Technodrome, so the Turtles break in to save her.
-We get to see Shredder's face!
-In the end everyone is saved and rescued, Kraang prime is defeated, the Technodrome is destroyed and everyone returns to lair to celebrate, which is where the party clip is from
But this is probably the biggest spoiler:
-It is revealed to Splinter that Karai is actually Miwa, They have a small battle where Karai says the her father told her that Splinter killed her mother. Unable to to do any more splinter disables both Karai and Shredder and escapes, sparing their lives. But he does not tell the turtles anything about what happened, Leo asks him about it, but his reply is, "That's for another time, Leonardo."
:tgrin:
Technodrome is destroyed at the end? You mean compeltely destroyed ? Or will it stuck at the ocean until Kraang fix it like it happend in OT?
LivingMutagen
08-06-2013, 02:25 AM
I feel the same way, Its like reading a book before you see the movie
I think it will be pretty close. The book probably cut some of the dialogue out, but the story is all there.
Okay, spoilers!
-The Technodrome does show up
-the Turtles break into TCRI to stop the Technodrome from coming to Earth from Dimension X
-There is a cool battle within TCRI with Meatalhead and Traag
-Kirby is under mind control, but by Shredder. He leads April out of the lair and gives her to the Karai and the foot clan
-Kirby then returns and gives a message to Splinter from Shredder that says the only save her to come and face him
-Dogpound and Fishface and the Mousers do have small cameos
-Splinter goes to save April alone, but it is a trap and he is forced a one on one battle with Shredder that pretty much lasts the entirety of the story
-Leo sacrifices himself to save his brothers and Earth, twice, and he survives, twice.
-It turns out April is Psychic, which is why Kraang Prime wants her. She steals April gift and transfers in to her own mind so she can power the Technodrome with her mind
-The turtles return to the Lair and return Kirby to normal and he tells the that Shredder gave April to the Kraang and she inside the Technodrome, so the Turtles break in to save her.
-We get to see Shredder's face!
-In the end everyone is saved and rescued, Kraang prime is defeated, the Technodrome is destroyed and everyone returns to lair to celebrate, which is where the party clip is from
But this is probably the biggest spoiler:
-It is revealed to Splinter that Karai is actually Miwa, They have a small battle where Karai says the her father told her that Splinter killed her mother. Unable to to do any more splinter disables both Karai and Shredder and escapes, sparing their lives. But he does not tell the turtles anything about what happened, Leo asks him about it, but his reply is, "That's for another time, Leonardo."
:tgrin:
AWESOME! Looking forward to the Metalhead vs Traag fight, having a 3-4 ft robot fighting a giant lava monster.
And of course, the Splinter vs Shredder fight will be awesome
drgon78
08-06-2013, 06:19 AM
Does April get her powers back from Kraang Prime?
How is the fight with April and Karai?
MrTMNT2012
08-06-2013, 07:35 AM
Damn it, spoiled myself! But I can't wait to see it, it all sounds AMAZING! :)
Might just be the greatest TMNT Season Finale EVER!! :D
BubblyShell22
08-06-2013, 08:48 AM
Wow. That was an awesome spoiler and I can't wait to see the finale. I'm intrigued by two things. The first is that:
Leo sacrifices himself twice to save his family. Is he injured at all during this process and how does he sacrifice himself? If you can't say anything or don't want to, that's okay.
The second is:
I wonder if Splinter will ever tell the boys that he found his lost daughter? He can't just keep it from them forever.
So, excited for this finale. Thanks for the spoilers.
Electric
08-06-2013, 02:12 PM
Wow. That was an awesome spoiler and I can't wait to see the finale. I'm intrigued by two things. The first is that:
Leo sacrifices himself twice to save his family. Is he injured at all during this process and how does he sacrifice himself? If you can't say anything or don't want to, that's okay.
So, excited for this finale. Thanks for the spoilers.
If i may
he said leo stays behind to detonate TCRI (falling off building) and then stays on the drome to keep prime on it as it goes down. He seems to be ok after both, raph catches him, and he swims up after the drome is in the ocean
TheJ-manTurtleMan
08-06-2013, 03:17 PM
Leo question
Why does Leo sacrifice himself twice and how does he survive?
AWESOME! Looking forward to the Metalhead vs Traag fight, having a 3-4 ft robot fighting a giant lava monster.
And of course, the Splinter vs Shredder fight will be awesome
Does April get her powers back from Kraang Prime?
How is the fight with April and Karai?
Wow. That was an awesome spoiler and I can't wait to see the finale. I'm intrigued by two things. The first is that:
Leo sacrifices himself twice to save his family. Is he injured at all during this process and how does he sacrifice himself? If you can't say anything or don't want to, that's okay.
So, excited for this finale. Thanks for the spoilers.
Wow! I had no idea I would get so many questions! But no problem, keep 'em coming!
First to address LivingMutagen:
I'm sorry I didn't phrase that well. Meatlhead and Traag don't acutally fight, the have separate fights within TCRI. Metalhead against Kraang and Traag against the Turtles. Sorry if this disappointing, my bad.
I'm also getting the same question about Leonardo:
The first time leo sacrifices himself is he stays behind to manually detonate an explosive inside TCRI while the other Turtles escape, the bomb explodes blowing Leo off the building. Raphael then swoops in on his glider and saves Leo.
The second time is at the end He stays on the Technodrome to keep Kraang Prime trapped on it as the Turtles and April escape. Leo is on board as It crashes into the ocean. Everyone thinks he is dead, but then he swims up and is okay. It actually reminded me of the ending of Jaws.:tlol:
MikeandRaph87
08-06-2013, 03:34 PM
Too bad that same thing could be said for Slash when he held off Null and Malinga for the others to escape!
As for the major spoiler, its not really a spoiler at all, just confirmation of what we all have known since it was revealed Karai was in the series. Shredder's adopted daughter was given to Splinter as his biological daughter to add deeper conflict. I am looking forward to when Splinter has to tell Leonardo she is his step-sister and that they are different specieis so forget it. I wonder if the writers thought that one through when it was always known she was the daught of Splinter.
Leofan26
08-06-2013, 04:07 PM
Awesome, thanks for responding to our questions :)
Leo spoiler has me excited than I when I saw the trailer :D
I'm curious..
How they'll handle Leo / Karai's relationship now, when he finds out about Karai being his half sister this will be an investing turn. Before Leo / Karai's relationship was more of an honor / respect for one another and some would say ( Crush? ) I like the idea of it being a brother sister rivalry between the two. Wonder, how long it will take for her to join?
BubblyShell22
08-06-2013, 04:51 PM
Wow! I had no idea I would get so many questions! But no problem, keep 'em coming!
First to address LivingMutagen:
I'm sorry I didn't phrase that well. Meatlhead and Traag don't acutally fight, the have separate fights within TCRI. Metalhead against Kraang and Traag against the Turtles. Sorry if this disappointing, my bad.
I'm also getting the same question about Leonardo:
The first time leo sacrifices himself is he stays behind to manually detonate an explosive inside TCRI while the other Turtles escape, the bomb explodes blowing Leo off the building. Raphael then swoops in on his glider and saves Leo.
The second time is at the end He stays on the Technodrome to keep Kraang Prime trapped on it as the Turtles and April escape. Leo is on board as It crashes into the ocean. Everyone thinks he is dead, but then he swims up and is okay. It actually reminded me of the ending of Jaws.:tlol:
Whoa. Thanks for answering the Leo question. This makes me even more stoked for the finale and what will happen when he sacrifices himself. I think I may have a plot bunny for a fic after it airs exploring more about this issue.
kelligrafie
08-07-2013, 03:41 PM
Here's a video of Kraang/Krang Prime talking with April. It's sort of what we've seen in the trailer for the episode but a full scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKy1nszbPqc
(I'm aware Tiger Claw posted this in a brand new thread but we were posting simultaneously - oh well).
In regards to April being psychic, I think it's more that she's in tune wih the entire universe as we know it. And Kraang want to exploit that so they can manipulate our universe and make it like theirs'.
Oh and please can we cull the argument about forumers being rude or out-of-order. I think you've all made your point and it's off topic in any case. If you want to carry on bickering please take it to private messaging and give the rest of us a break.
Donatello19
08-07-2013, 03:51 PM
All these spoilers...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mal7mlOc761qauzjwo1_500.jpg
TheJ-manTurtleMan
08-07-2013, 08:09 PM
There is also a really cool homage to Mirage #4 that I can't wait to see in the actual episode :tsmile:
As the Turtles are attempting to break into TCRI they have to sneak past security cameras. So what do they use to cover the camera lens? A pigeon! Now all it says is its just a pigeon, not specifically a pigeon puppet, and it's Raphael that uses it. there is no dialogue in the book during the scene so I wonder, and hope, that there is some funny dialogue in the show.
WhitefinDolphin
08-07-2013, 10:15 PM
All these spoilers...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mal7mlOc761qauzjwo1_500.jpg
All these spoilers...
http://i.qkme.me/35vw01.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSZH3vuXJYSZcKStW46kVggbkwfu_M_C ugYbNPqjej-jZLPXRBN0A
PApagreg
08-07-2013, 10:18 PM
It seems that Zone is a fan of this show
BubblyShell22
08-08-2013, 08:56 AM
I so can't wait for this finale. I'm so excited.
Zulithe
08-08-2013, 09:09 AM
You know another cool thing about the technodrome reappearing?
It makes the name of this site more timely :P Until this moment, the name definitely had a very retro, throwback vibe to it... but now that the technodrome is also a part of the Nick show it feels a lot more encompassing :P
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