Breaking Bad

[Danetello]

I DID do a search and couldn't find an official thread, so hopefully it's ok to start this one!

The final 8 episodes of BB starts in a week, and I am UBER excited!

Anyone else excited to finally see what happens to Walt, Jessie and their lives?
Will Hank say anything?
What was the whole thing about being from New England about in the last season? How will that tie in?
Does that mean Walt is on the run? Will Hank turn him ini or let him go!?

Argh so many questions!

Hank has been sitting on the toilet WAY too long!! Time to get back to the patio and confront Mr White, Hank!!.....

[Danetello]

Surely SOMEBODY here watches BB?! Nobody watched the new season that started this week?!

[Rockvoanjd]

I watch it, love it. Pissed that I couldn't get the Goorin Heisenberg hat today.

[Danetello]

Finally someone! lol.
I don't really buy BB merchandise. Hot Topic, Spencer's and a bunch of online t-shirt places have some cool shirts that I've considered, but have so far not bought any.

[Rockvoanjd]

Check out Goorin.com, they are the ones that made Walts hat from the show. Not that I would wear it, kinda just wanted the box. Anyways it's a limited release, as soon as it went up, site crashed.

[Davetello]

Hi mate - your username is eerily similar to mine :)

Breaking Bad is without doubt the greatest live-action television show I have ever seen (with the caveat being that I'm yet to begin watching the Wire, so BB may be bumped to second place soon). I first watched the show on Netflix a year ago and absolutely loved it. I rewatched all 54 eps again a few months ago to get me in the mood for the show's climax. I've even got my mum into the show.

It's simply sensational. The writing, the acting, the plot, the pacing. It's one of those rare shows which improves over time rather than declines.

The final 8 eps air on Netflix UK a few hours after the American broadcast ends, so I watched ep 9 on Monday. All I can say is 'wow'. I wish these eps were being released all-at-once as the suspense is killing me :lol:

You have a fellow fan here mate. I'd love to discuss the show with you over the coming weeks.

[AT-Man]

I watch it and it's one of the best, but I don't want to speculate anything at all.

[Zulithe]

Huge fan of the show. Started watching it in Season 2 and been pretty obsessed since then.

the last episode was masterfully done, going to be so sad once the show is over with.

[MrPliggins]

That last episode was great. This show always has me on the edge of my seat. When this episode ended, I realized I was breathing heavy and nervous..haha. No other show gets me worked up like that. This is my favorite show..pretty sad that there's only 3 episodes left.

Then, I watched this week's Dexter. Such opposite ends of the spectrum.

[Rockvoanjd]

Pretty bummed myself it's almost over, but it's been a helluva ride. Such great writing and acting. Truly the greatest thing I ever watched on tv. I've been wanting a pair of skull tip boots that the cousins wear. I figured they'd be good beer drinking boots in the bar:lol:

[Davin]

I've been watching since the first episode premiered. It's bittersweet that this is the last season, but I love it when great shows end before they go south so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it gets a fitting end.

[MrPliggins]

With mega-popular shows like this, it seems finale expectations are always so high that they're always bound to disappoint. However, this season has been pulling out all the right stops, so I'm pretty optimistic.

[Davetello]

That last episode was great. This show always has me on the edge of my seat. When this episode ended, I realized I was breathing heavy and nervous..haha. No other show gets me worked up like that. This is my favorite show..pretty sad that there's only 3 episodes left.

Then, I watched this week's Dexter. Such opposite ends of the spectrum.

:lol:

I lurk a Man United forum (ironic as I detest Man United) and in the entertainment section they're always whining about Dexter's decline (which is accurate). They constantly say it's better to watch Dexter first every week. They're right too because I tried watching it after BB one week and it was intolerable. Of course, this wouldn't be an issue if Dexter hadn't been moved from Autumn (Fall) to summer for the final season. That's what's caused the clashing.

As for BB, it's really been great and it's leading up to a spectacular climax. We get it on Netflix UK the morning after it airs in the States so I feel a bit better about the fact I don't have to torrent it :lol:

[愛]

I remember when the first season of this show aired and no one cared at all. Then out of nowhere it exploded. Same with Walking Dead. Weird how that works out.

[Davetello]

I remember when the first season of this show aired and no one cared at all. Then out of nowhere it exploded. Same with Walking Dead. Weird how that works out.

Over here it doesn't get much publicity. I became aware of it in 2010 or so and finally watched it in 2012. I have a habit of procrastinating with TV shows. Possibly another reason that people didn't care as much after season 1 is that season 1 is simply 'good'. Every other season is clearly better - the initial season was reduced from thirteen episodes to seven due to a strike and that hampered it. I think it 'exploded' because it improved in quality and this led to greater word of mouth. I've read more than one person say they didn't get the fuss until season two.

I hadn't even heard of the Walking Dead show until the second season was about to begin. For some strange reason I hadn't realised there was a TV series of the comics. If we're being honest it's not really that good - it's simply an easy time sink. It's popular because zombie fiction in general is 'in'. but it's not a particularly good show by normal standards. I still watch it though as the premise (and the comics) appeals to me.

[NinjaPug]

This final season has been fantastic. Can't wait to see how they wrap it up next week.

[Oisterboy]

I'm confused about how they're going to wrap everything up neatly in a 45 minute span...seems like it should be an extended episode or something, I just see too many loose ends and unanswered questions. However, they're pretty masterful story tellers so I'm sure I won't be disappointed.

I wanna see Badger one last time though. I love that dude lol.

[Zulithe]

It feels like there is so much more to show and tell... only one more ep... but remember, it's a long ep by about 10 or 15 minutes (same as yesterday's)

[Oisterboy]

Oh good :] I don't really notice the time since I DVR them with an extended 5 minutes (so it records 5 beyond where the allotted time ends).

I dunno what I'm gonna watch after this ends. I like Always Sunny but thats not a very long season, and I gave up on Walking Dead after reading the comic.

[SparkyMarky644]

I absolutely love the show. Can't wait for the final episode. This is going to be a long 6 days. I'm going to miss this show so much.

[Chewy5150]

The last couple of episodes have been intense. I usually don't watch many shows on tv besides cartoons and such but I've gotten reeeal into this.

[dkram230]

I never heard of this show until several months ago. A lot of people at the office are always talking about it and I saw it won a bunch of Emmys. So I DVR'd the series marathon that's going on now (all 60 some episodes) in celebration of the finale. Watched the first 4 last night. It's ok- kind of slow moving. It lost my wife's interest only 40 minutes in. I'll finish off the first season tonight to determine if I want to keep going or not. I hear people say this is the best series on TV in decades. Right now I'm not seeing it. And can they PLEASE stop showing the old guy (Walter) in his underwear!

[plastroncafe]

No way man, Walter in his tighty whities is the best!

[MrPliggins]

The first season, while still good, is probably the weakest season. I suggest you stick with it, the best is yet to come.

[AT-Man]

The last episode was very satisfying! Everything happened just as it should. I am at peace.

[MrTMNT2012]

Am I the only one who felt the last few episodes were extremely predictable? I don't know, for a Emmy-award winning series full of great twists and turns, the last episode felt kind of lacklustre to me.... :(

Still a great series though.

[The Stryker]

Am I the only one who felt the last few episodes were extremely predictable? I don't know, for a Emmy-award winning series full of great twists and turns, the last episode felt kind of lacklustre to me.... :(

Still a great series though.

Why would they keep the twists and turns going for the final stretch? The entire series set the scene for the end and it was just about Walt ghosting around seeing how his decisions destroyed his world.

[MikeandRaph87]

Was there any way that could have played out where Walt did not die in the end? Just curious.

[The Stryker]

Was there any way that could have played out where Walt did not die in the end? Just curious.

Not without it being dumb.

He was set for death from the very beginning.

[MikeandRaph87]

Not without it being dumb.

He was set for death from the very beginning.

Thinking throughout a plausible ending I could not see what the creators would do with the character with him alive at the end. I was curious to see those more devoted to the show,if there was a justifible say to have a send off with him alive.

[MrPliggins]

I think finales should be about all the characters you've been following, and their stories coming to a close. That is where this final season excelled. The final episode was no exception.
Where Dexter's final season introduced new characters no one cared about and didn't develop any of their mainstay characters (in fact their cast of supporting characters' development has been absolutely nonexistent for about 4 seasons), this show did exactly the opposite, and it ended perfectly.

So, I think the finale excelled in many ways. It gave most the ending they wanted, and while being predictable in many ways, it threw some surprises in there.
In the end, everything made sense, all characters' motivations made sense, and they all stayed in-character the entire time.
One thing I love about this show is that it isn't scared to mess with the status quo and change things up a bit.

I'd say this show and Dexter should both be watched by students in the future for "what to do" and "what not to do", respectively, in writing and character development.

My one gripe about the finale:

Walt's big plan to kill the bad guys left a lot to chance.
- being able to park his car in that exact spot
- nobody checking his trunk
- being able to get his keys back. It's a good thing they placed them right on the table next to him!
- being able to coax Jack into bringing Jesse up instead of Jack's men taking Walt outside to kill him
- every member of Jack's crew being within firing distance

But hey, Walt was a smart guy. I bet he had figured out all of the probability percentages.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Where do i Begin ? Well for Starters......

I Honest to god cheered when Jesse choked Todd to death.

Or how about when Walter and Jesse share one final exchange before the end.

Massive Props to Vince Gilligan, Bryan Cranston, Aaron Paul and everybody else involved with this GREAT Show.

[Rockvoanjd]

From the beginning to the end, I was hypnotized by this amazing show. A couple posts back I mentioned the Heisenberg Hat by the Goorin Bros, failed twice online to buy one. Luckily for me, it would appear there aren't many BB fans in the French Quarters:lol: walked right in and bought it. I'm not much of an autograph hound, but if any of the actors do any conventions in town, I'll have them sign the box.
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[Powder]

Gonna bump this thread because I just finished watching the series yesterday. I had been posting about it on Facebook, so I'm gonna copy & paste my thoughts from there.

Normally I turn my nose up at all things mainstream. If something gets a lot of hype, it's usually because people are stupid, & easy to please. I mean, hey, the radio plays garbage all day long, most cable TV programs are "reality" shows that glorify narcissism & whatnot. With that being said, I paid no mind to the hit series Breaking Bad. "Drugs & violence, oh wow, how original, how exciting. Probably just over-hyped bull----... but God damn, people go ape over it. Hmm, maybe I'll try to avoid spoilers and watch it on Netflix one day." Well, that day came in the beginning of my week. Holy ----. All accolades well deserved. Highest rated show of all time, as cited in the Guinness Book Of World Records. I can see why. Good lord. I just... whoa. Binge watched it. Knew I was locked in from the first episode. I did all five seasons, 62 episodes, in about 5 days, I think. I woke up, watched it all day, went to bed, dreamt about it, and repeated the process upon waking. Never have I been so hooked on a series like that before. I know I'm late to the game, so it may be pretentious to say this, but if you haven't yet watched BB, do so as soon as possible. Genre-wise, it's not my cup of tea, really. Never been a fan of the leading actors' prior work. None of it appealed to me on paper, really, but the way it's presented, how well it's written, the twists, the connections, it's a masterpiece. No lie. Just watched the final episode. Maaaaaaaaaaaan. It's hard to express just how good it truly is.

Sopranos is DEF top notch, but yeah, amazingly, this tops it. No question! The folks behind it gotta be criminal masterminds or did some ridiculously thorough research. Unreal the things people were pulling off. The casting was A+ too, tons of unknowns (which really helps with viewer immersion) with perfect faces, who were just right for every role. Not one person miscast, all performances solid. The foreshadowing was good as hell, and the cinematography was super impressing, especially for a cable drama. The transitioning shots where meth crystals pouring into a bucket became salt over chicken comes to mind, as well as the sound of bullet hail blending into that of a currency counter. There were a lot of shots where the emotional divide between two parties was signified by a pole or bar between them, I love that kind of symbolic stuff, even more when it's subtle. Way too good.

My only real complaints are as follows: 1. The whole family is annoying as hell. Holy ----. Every one of them. Annoying & rage inducing. Not only that, but often too much time was spent of them. They were fodder for killing time on more than a few occasions. Without so much filler on their part we could have shaved off probably 2-3 episodes at least. 2. "Urban" slang/dialogue. Whoever was writing for the wiggers & stoners never was one, doesn't know any, and is probably a 40+ conservative square. The hip-hop lingo was on some '99 ish, and even then you'd have been looked at sideways for saying half of that corny stuff. They couldn't decide if skinny Pete was a banger or an alternative rocker. Badger was perfect, if only because I knew mad herb ass dudes just like him in high school. Hated cats like that, but they exist. & on the topic of accuracy, Jane was such a poorly dressed goth. Whoever did her wardrobe hopped in a time machine, and went to a torrid store in 2001, bringing back an emo starter kit. Ugh. 3. Stereotyping junkies. Most of the crowds Jesse & his boys were pushing to were the kind of people folks of a certain generation tend to judge blindly. You know, punk rockers, skinheads, "freaks", goths, etc. Half of the sub-cultures they were peddling to are notoriously anti-drugs in real life. That's the kinda crowd I always ran with, and there were never any meth addicts. - Minor issues, mostly.

Favorite character: Mike Ehrmantraut-
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Favorite moment:

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[Jester]

Watching it on Netflix. 5 episodes into season 3, and I'm still not 100% sure how I feel about it. I'm gonna stick it out just to see how it ends, but I find almost none of the characters all that likable....save maybe Flynn/Walter Jr. Maybe that's the point and all...but *shrugs* I'll let ya know when I'm finished.

[ZariusTwo]

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[Jester]

Finally to a point where Mike plays a bigger role. I can understand why you like him, Powder. Also can't believe I forgot Steven Gomez. Bit player, but I liked him when he was around.
Still not 100% sure what I think, but I do know that I've got to know how it ends...

[Jester]

Do you guys think Walt wanted Hank to catch him? I mean, leaving a book you received from the other chemist your associate killed seems like a very stupid thing to do, not at all careful, and only something you'd do if you were looking to be caught.

[sdp]

I first heard about it when it started airing and not that popular from a friend, two years later I saw the first episode and liked it but I didn't watch the show until last year a little before Netflix added the last season. Really enjoyable show, hated Walter's wife and Jessie. Those two basically screwed up anything good Walter had going on various times, I can't understand how people defend these characters. I also don't see how people can say Walter is absolutely evil, he really isn't, he's just a man having to make tough decisions. He really did do everything for his family, sure he got cocky a few times but overall he was always the same loser he was in the first episode. I think the show should've ended in S4, it was the perfect ending. S5 definitely had some awesome stuff and things I wanted to see but overall things got a little too out there and messed a bunch of stuff up so overall I didn't like it. The ending was rather lackluster as well and couldn't reach the tension or highs of S4..

[Jester]

Working on the series finale, but one glaring question comes to mind: Why in the world would Badger and Skinny Pete work with Walt....like at all? He's "Public Enemy #1" and they haven't seen Jesse in how long at that point, and still they're willing to work with him.


Maybe it's the money....yeah that's probably it. Money.

[MrPliggins]

It wasn't very logical...I bet they just wanted to fit them in the show one last time since they were well-liked characters.

[shuriken]

I thought the series was fantastic. I like how Walt became more conniving and twisted, but Jesse in turn became a better person. Albeit horribly traumatized and heartbroken, but still morally better.
Did anyone like Skylar? like man nobody likes that character.

[Andrew NDB]

Did anyone else but me have any idea there are like 11 "minisodes" that came out for the show in 2009 and 2010? I had no idea.

They're all on Youtube. Just search "breaking bad minisode" and you'll see them.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Did anyone else but me have any idea there are like 11 "minisodes" that came out for the show in 2009 and 2010? I had no idea.

They're all on Youtube. Just search "breaking bad minisode" and you'll see them.

News to me. What are they about?

[Andrew NDB]

News to me. What are they about?

Little bits and pieces here and there. A lot of Saul stuff, and it begins with Hank and his wife messing around. Also Hank and Badger breaking in somewhere, probably between episodes.

[Andrew NDB]

Dumb thought about the future of Breaking Bad. I can't help but notice that while Lydia did die (and this was confirmed in "El Camino") we really get nothing about Madrigal itself being brought down, and they were the big dogs behind Gus and everybody.

Could there be something else about this? Walt, alive, in protective custody helping facilitate that?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Little bits and pieces here and there. A lot of Saul stuff, and it begins with Hank and his wife messing around. Also Hank and Badger breaking in somewhere, probably between episodes.

Watched them. Love the Better Call Saul commercials best, I can never get enough Saul Goodman. :tlol:

Dumb thought about the future of Breaking Bad. I can't help but notice that while Lydia did die (and this was confirmed in "El Camino") we really get nothing about Madrigal itself being brought down, and they were the big dogs behind Gus and everybody.

Could there be something else about this? Walt, alive, in protective custody helping facilitate that?

There could be... but Walt is too independent to just roll over and become a snitch or double agent. Jesse did that, but only because he wanted to burn Walt to the ground. Walt already got his revenge on everyone... Lydia, Todd and Jack and family, Gus, Mike, Gretchen and Elliott...

Who is even left for Walt to hate? No, it makes more sense that he went out on a bloody laboratory floor, surrounded by his equipment... Heisenberg to the last.

[Andrew NDB]

There could be... but Walt is too independent to just roll over and become a snitch or double agent. Jesse did that, but only because he wanted to burn Walt to the ground. Walt already got his revenge on everyone... Lydia, Todd and Jack and family, Gus, Mike, Gretchen and Elliott...

Who is even left for Walt to hate?

Maybe Gretchen and Elliott don't pay up, come Walt Jr.'s birthday. But I'm thinking something that gets away from Walt "hating" people out of existence.

Think, like... "Silence of the Lambs," with Walt instead of Lecter. Less of a lead role and more of a "presence that looms over the whole show" kind of capacity for Cranston. Like, FBI agents looking for his help to bring down Madrigal and/or other meth kingpins, visiting him in his cell. So there's kind of a quid pro quo thing, but Walt manages to subtly manipulate FBI agents into his will, maybe even bringing them to his side and Heisenberging his own escape at some point.

No, it makes more sense that he went out on a bloody laboratory floor, surrounded by his equipment

None of that was ever his equipment.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Maybe Gretchen and Elliott don't pay up, come Walt Jr.'s birthday. But I'm thinking something that gets away from Walt "hating" people out of existence.

Think, like... "Silence of the Lambs," with Walt instead of Lecter. Less of a lead role and more of a "presence that looms over the whole show" kind of capacity for Cranston. Like, FBI agents looking for his help to bring down Madrigal and/or other meth kingpins, visiting him in his cell. So there's kind of a quid pro quo thing, but Walt manages to subtly manipulate FBI agents into his will, maybe even bringing them to his side and Heisenberging his own escape at some point.

None of that was ever his equipment.

Fair point on the "his"... not literally his, but what he made his true life's love, y'know? But points for accuracy, not HIS equipment.

I don't see Heisenberg as Lecter, but again, if the creative team decided to do it, I trust them to make me like it.

BIGGER question is... what happens to Saul/Jimmy at the end of Better Call Saul? The vacuum cleaner guy sure made it sound ominous for our favorite lawyer when he referenced him in El Camino...

[Andrew NDB]

Fair point on the "his"... not literally his, but what he made his true life's love, y'know? But points for accuracy, not HIS equipment.

I don't see Heisenberg as Lecter, but again, if the creative team decided to do it, I trust them to make me like it.

BIGGER question is... what happens to Saul/Jimmy at the end of Better Call Saul? The vacuum cleaner guy sure made it sound ominous for our favorite lawyer when he referenced him in El Camino...

You haven't been watching Better Call Saul? Saul is "Gene" now and at the beginning of each season we check in with him (post-Breaking Bad) for a few minutes in B&W. Presumably the final season's check-in with Gene will bringing things full circle. I suspect there will be a surprise with his girlfriend... that she was with him and behind the scenes during the whole Breaking Bad show.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

You haven't been watching Better Call Saul? Saul is "Gene" now and at the beginning of each season we check in with him (post-Breaking Bad) for a few minutes in B&W. Presumably the final season's check-in with Gene will bringing things full circle. I suspect there will be a surprise with his girlfriend... that she was with him and behind the scenes during the whole Breaking Bad show.

Oh I have definitely been watching. Waiting for Season 4 to drop on Netflix... RIP Chuck

[Andrew NDB]

That's a good point about the Disappearer's words. And come to think of it... all this time I've been treating the seasonly prologues with Gene as taking place after the end of the show, but the last time we saw Saul was before the time lapse at the cabin (of like a year, or whatever it was), right? So these glimpses at Gene could be during that time, not after, and maybe the Disappearer in El Camino DOES know some new information about how Gene ended up because it would've already happened.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

That's a good point about the Disappearer's words. And come to think of it... all this time I've been treating the seasonly prologues with Gene as taking place after the end of the show, but the last time we saw Saul was before the time lapse at the cabin (of like a year, or whatever it was), right? So these glimpses at Gene could be during that time, not after, and maybe the Disappearer in El Camino DOES know some new information about how Gene ended up because it would've already happened.

That's definitely how I interpreted it.

Maybe Nacho finally catches up to Saul. :tsad:

[Andrew NDB]

That's definitely how I interpreted it.

Maybe Nacho finally catches up to Saul. :tsad:

I just find it hard to believe they want to end the show on a dour note like that. Maybe it'll end like the Sopranos... like, "Is he 5 seconds away from getting shot, or is he just paranoid?"

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I just find it hard to believe they want to end the show on a dour note like that. Maybe it'll end like the Sopranos... like, "Is he 5 seconds away from getting shot, or is he just paranoid?"

I'd love to be wrong. I want Gene to have a happy ending. He deserves one just as much as Jesse. Or Huell. :tlol:

Maybe he finally gets back with Kim Wexler? Or turns state's evidence against Walt? And Mike? With Kim representing him?

[Andrew NDB]

Maybe he finally gets back with Kim Wexler?

My fingers are crossed that she never really left.

[Andrew NDB]

A new short, "Snow Globe":

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[CyberCubed]

I just don't know how he got so fat. I swear I burst out laughing the first time I saw him in the Camino movie. They didn't even try to hide his weight. :lol:

[Cure]

I just don't know how he got so fat.

Poor diet and lack of exercise. It's not ****ing rocket science.

[Andrew NDB]

Maybe for The Irishman? Was that guy supposed to be fat, though?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

A new short, "Snow Globe":

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Loved it. Todd and Lydia made such a fascinating pair of characters. I wouldn't have minded seeing them last longer...

She playing him, he oblivious to her disinterest... if Walt hadn't intervened, would Lydia have eventually had Todd killed? Or would Todd have made the first move and taken rejection very, very poorly? How would that have shaken up Todd's dad and uncle?

[MrPliggins]

I just don't know how he got so fat. I swear I burst out laughing the first time I saw him in the Camino movie. They didn't even try to hide his weight. :lol:

He put on weight for roles in Black Mass and Fargo, according to IMDb.

[Andrew NDB]

It's interesting to think how everyone's lives would have been different if Walter White hasn't ever met any of the people in the show, or simply just never went on that first ride-along.

* Jesse. Interestingly, I think Jesse may have actually ended up worse without Walt. There's a sharp trajectory for big meth heads about 100% of the time and it's straight down, and fast. Without the kind of reality checks he saw on the show he might not have ever broken out of that rut.

* Hank. He'd probably be great. He'd probably follow the same trajectory as Hank on the show but he'd be looking not for Heisenberg but for Gale. Though Gale wouldn't have had any of Walt's slipups so there's nothing to suggest there'd be much for Hank to do.

* Skyler. She'd be fine. An ordinary marriage with a dying husband.

* Marie. No change, really, beyond having a living husband beyond a certain point.

* Gus. Presumably everything would have gone perfectly according to plan with Gale as his cook, cooking only a few % less pure than Walt's meth. He would have won the cartel war and maintained his secret drug empire independent from Mexico. Hank would've never had any reason to suspect him.

* Tuco. Probably would be in prison again for something stupid, but otherwise alive. Though I'd imagine once Gus proceeded with the final phase of his cartel war, he'd have to have Tuco killed.

* Mike. He'd be alive, making his money with Gus and then retiring. His granddaughter would get all the money he wanted to give her, no problem.

* Saul. He'd still be doing Saul things, happily, presumably with Kim in the shadows.

* The neo-nazis. Well, they'd still be up to bad stuff. But they wouldn't be millionaires and wouldn't be dead either.

He put on weight for roles in Black Mass and Fargo, according to IMDb.

And then kept it for 7 years?

[neatoman]

Well... Walt was Jesse's teacher a few years before the start of the series and it's never fully established what their pre-meth relationship was like. While the show only ever implies Jesse was little more than a random student with bad grades, not really someone Walt really gave a **** about before he thought he'd be of use, it is possible Walt did something (intentionally or not) that led to or worsened Jesse's drug problem during high school.

Come to think of it, Walt might have been better off if he never involved Jesse in the first place. He sought out his help because he thought Jesse had the street smarts Walt himself lacked, only to realise Jesse smoked too much of the supply himself to make any profit and barely had any contacts. Any know-how Jesse relayed to Walt is something he could and would have figured out by himself, nor would he be forced to help Jesse out of trouble all the time.

[sdp]

Things would've worked out perfectly for Walt had Jessie not ****ed up over and over again. I never understood how people tried to redeem him while demonizing Walt. Had Walt not saved Jessie from his own messes he made his life would've been different, he could've been breaking good.

Walter did nothing wrong, he did it all for his family, he never broke bad. Even his final act was selfless, he told his wife he did it for himself and not the family but it was because of his family, that's why he sacrifices himself for Jessie.

A way major oversimplification. Poisoning Brock, a small child? Basically killing Jesse's girlfriend? Snitching out Jesse to the neo nazis (who he was actually hoping would shoot him), who beat him for like a year while he was chained in a cell? Blowing up a bomb in a hospital filled with elderly people? Who knew where that shrapnel was going to go?
He knew the kid would be fine. Jessie girlfriend was psychotic you would've done the same, he just pulled a Batman begins "I won't kill you but i don't have to save you". Jesse had plenty of opportunities and kept messing things up.

Walter did nothing wrong

[CyberCubed]

Jessie probably would have been killed or shot by a rival drug gang if he never met Walt and just tried selling drugs on his own like he was doing.

[Andrew NDB]

Walter did nothing wrong, he did it all for his family, he never broke bad. Even his final act was selfless, he told his wife he did it for himself and not the family but it was because of his family, that's why he sacrifices himself for Jessie.

A way major oversimplification. Poisoning Brock, a small child? Basically killing Jesse's girlfriend? Snitching out Jesse to the neo nazis (who he was actually hoping would shoot him), who beat him for like a year while he was chained in a cell? Blowing up a bomb in a hospital filled with elderly people? Who knew where that shrapnel was going to go?

[ProphetofGanja]

There are some terrible takes in here tonight :lol:

[Leo656]

There are some terrible takes in here tonight :lol:

You expect anything less from Bad Opinions: The Guy?

[joe-eyeball]

Walter did nothing wrong, he did it all for his family, he never broke bad. Even his final act was selfless, he told his wife he did it for himself and not the family but it was because of his family, that's why he sacrifices himself for Jessie.

Did you even pay attention while watching the show? Walter did nothing wrong? He fully engaged in the illegal manufacture and distribution of drugs! He manipulated multiple people to commit illegal acts for his benefit and many of those manipulations and illegal acts led to people dying! Were many of the people involved in his schemes scumbags? Sure, but it was still illegal! And the reason he sacrificed himself to save Jesse was essentially an admission of guilt for all of the ways he wronged Jesse. It was in his mind the one good thing he could do in the end.

By your logic if a struggling family man decides to start a sex trafficking ring by kidnapping teenage girls in an effort to earn a metric fvckton of money for his family because they are falling behind on the mortgage and little Johnny needs braces then good on him! He did nothing wrong!

[Leo656]

Dude.

If you have NOTHING better to do and also hate yourself, click on sdp's blog/website thing and read some of his "hot takes". A ton of stuff will make sense immediately.

Don't say I didn't warn you. Just saying, it pays to know who you're dealing with.

[joe-eyeball]

Dude.

If you have NOTHING better to do and also hate yourself, click on sdp's blog/website thing and read some of his "hot takes". A ton of stuff will make sense immediately.

Don't say I didn't warn you. Just saying, it pays to know who you're dealing with.

Oh I appreciate it and I am aware of his many, let’s say questionable opinions on things, and I usually don’t respond when I see them but this time I was just bored enough to give it a go.

[Cure]

Dude.

If you have NOTHING better to do and also hate yourself, click on sdp's blog/website thing and read some of his "hot takes". A ton of stuff will make sense immediately.

You can make sense of his ****** writing and punctuation? I gave up on like, the first run-on sentence when I visited years ago.

[Leo656]

Sometimes when I'm very sick I have nothing but time and if I'm already aggravated I figure it can't get much worse. :lol: But yeah, once was enough, I saw everything I "needed" to see and I'll never get the time back.

Could be part of the whole "pretending to be a much younger, 'hipper' person" gimmick. I saw a list on Yahoo the other day about "Things Older People Do That Millennials Hate", and one of them was legit "Old people actually care about spelling and punctuation like it matters, and they put spaces between things like it's a term paper, so funny but so tragic." And You Know Who was the first person I thought of.

[Andrew NDB]

You can make sense of his ****** writing and punctuation? I gave up on like, the first run-on sentence when I visited years ago.

Damn. That's Cure's last post on the Drome. Guy is dead, apparently.

[Leo656]

How very fitting that his last post was in response to something I said. Although he wasn't calling me a moron, so it's also a bit out of character.

[Turo602]

Damn. That's Cure's last post on the Drome. Guy is dead, apparently.

Holy sh*t. I didn't know him that well but that certainly made my heart drop. What happened? How'd you find out?

[CyberCubed]

Really? This is news to me. Usually when people disappear from forums I just assume it's because they got bored of this place and move on like Cylons did or all the other old users from the early 2000's.

What happened?

[Leo656]

Powder would know more, apparently they were friends.

[superstaff]

The only time I interacted with Cure that I can remember was a couple of years ago when he insulted me over something. I forgot what it was exactly, and I'm too lazy to look through my comment history. Still it's always a heavy, sad feeling to know someone died, especially someone young (I'm assuming he was anyway). Rest in Peace, Cure.

[ZariusTwo]

I think I had him on ignore. Shame we never patched up

[Leo656]

The only time I interacted with Cure that I can remember was a couple of years ago when he insulted me over something.

I have no idea how he acted outside of the forum, but that was his one and only function around here and it was entirely by choice.

I'm personally just going to exercise the "If you don't have anything nice to say..." clause.

[Coola Yagami]

Damn. I don't remember any interactions with him but I do remember seeing him post here quite a bit. Holy crap.

[CyberCubed]

He was also friends with Stryker who apparently married Katie but they don't post here anymore either. I just assumed they all just lost interest posting here.

[superstaff]

He was also friends with Stryker who apparently married Katie

Awwww! They met here, and got married?? :)

[Andrew NDB]

Really? This is news to me. Usually when people disappear from forums I just assume it's because they got bored of this place and move on like Cylons did or all the other old users from the early 2000's.

Like Gobo?

[CyberCubed]

Can someone summon Powder to this thread to see if he knows anything

[Andrew NDB]

See... I wish I never read stuff like this:

https://nypost.com/2022/06/16/breaking-bad-star-dean-norris-has-message-about-gas-price-anger/

I would never boycott his stuff or refuse to watch stuff he's in. But c'mon. Anyone who isn't a socialist should shut the f**k up about gas prices?

[CyberCubed]

I separate the art from the artist. I really don't care what actors do in their private lives or what their stances are on things. If I like their work/acting in a show that's all that matters.

[Andrew NDB]

Wtf... this is an actual thing they did?

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[Andrew NDB]

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[Andrew NDB]

Some of these... just wtf... lol...

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The weird thing is that they're all springing up fairly recently! Weird!

[Andrew NDB]

The Superbowl commercial was leaked early, I guess?

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[ProphetofGanja]

Just saw this the other day

I laughed :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

This is crazy. I remember ALL of these commercials.

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