Paramount Moves ‘TMNT’ To August 8, 2014

[AlZarkovski]

Sorry, folks... It's true.:cry:

Paramount Pictures has split up two movies that figure to pack a merchandising punch. The studio just moved from June 6, 2014 to August 8 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the Nickelodeon Movies/Platinum Dunes franchise re-launch. Why the shell game that moves the picture into the back end of the summer? It’s because Paramount has its Transformers movie slated for June 27. That will likely move to June 25 as traditionally the studio has opened these Michael Bay films on the Wednesday of that week. Both of these have involved campaigns and a big merchandising component, and it was thought the studio would be better off spacing the two toy-tied films further apart than the 19 days it was looking at in the original scheduling configuration.

http://www.deadline.com/2013/08/paramount-moves-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-to-august-8-2014/

[Cure]

Oh, no. Two months. What a nightmare.

[TigerClaw]

Pushing the date back is for the better. Having Transformers 4 and TMNT close together is too risky. And both those films need plenty of time to make a lot of money, Which they will do anyways. The film will open about a week after Guardians of the Galaxy.

[Slap-Happy]

August has never been a big blockbuster month. Strange choice.

[TigerClaw]

August has never been a big blockbuster month. Strange choice.
Well, Having it open in August gives it a better shot since no big movie opens that month. It will however open a week after Guardians of the Galaxy. And that film which is based on the Marvel comic will do very well. So were going from a movie with a talking Raccoon with a gun, to a movie with talking Turtles that know martial arts.

[CyberCubed]

I wish they could postpone the move indefinitely. I'd rather this movie never see the light of day than the potential damage to the brand it could cause.

[Plasticplayhouse]

August has never been a big blockbuster month. Strange choice.

dont say that, they may bump it back to novmber 2014 :tgrumble:

[CyberCubed]

dont say that, they may bump it back to novmber 2014 :tgrumble:

They should probably do that.

[sgtfbomb]

August has never been a big blockbuster month. Strange choice.

It gives it some more room to breathe.

[Zulithe]

Fine with me. It would be pretty stupid to have them competing considering bay is involved with both. Best to maximize your potential.

Sometime in the summer I think we should do a contest to guess the RT score for TMNT & transformers. I wonder which will be lower :tlol:

[The Stryker]

Smart. They were sandwiched in the previous spot and would've been lost in the shuffle.

[CyberCubed]

They obviously don't have much confidence in the movie.

[Slap-Happy]

They obviously don't have much confidence in the movie.
Shut up. There's nothing here that says anything remotely close to that.

[Bob]

It’s not up against anything that week, which is good. In its original release date it was up against a Tom Cruise sci-fi film, which would have more than likely stole the number one spot from it. Now it opens a week after Guardians of the Galaxy. For now, it’s difficult to decipher whether this is a good move or not. Guardians has a lot going for it, but it also has a steep hill to climb. It’s all about the marketing for that one, as it is a completely unknown property to the masses. As for TMNT, for the first weekend at least, the brand name will be enough to sell it. But yeah, it will be interesting to see how this develops.

When more info and footage comes out for both films it will be intriguing to see whether Disney and Paramount both stay put, or whether one will get cold feet and move yet again. Don’t forget, way back when, Guardians of the Galaxy was actually scheduled to go up against TMNT when it was going to be released in May. Disney seemed to get cold feet then. It’s funny how their paths seem to be crossing yet again.

[Slap-Happy]

It’s not up against anything that week, which is good. In its original release date it was up against a Tom Cruise sci-fi film, which would have more than likely stole the number one spot from it.
Tom Cruise isn't the box office giant he was ten years ago. I think it would've done fine there.

[CyberCubed]

Guardians of the Galaxy will have Disney/Marvel promoting the hell out of it to make sure its a success. It may not be a traditional superhero movie, but it works for the sci-fi crowd very easily.

The TMNT movie feels more like an afterthought, like they're just trying to get it out there to finish the deal they made before Viacom got the license.

[Andrew NDB]

They should probably do that.

And why stop there, really? I'm OK waiting until 2060 for this movie.

[CyberCubed]

I don't even get what Viacom hopes to accomplish with this movie. Is it really going to make TMNT more known to the masses?

[TigerClaw]

I wonder if this move also means... That the studio wants to convert it to 3D?

[Matches Malone]

I don't even get what Viacom hopes to accomplish with this movie. Is it really going to make TMNT more known to the masses?

People go to the movies, so... yes.

[TigerClaw]

What Paramount is doing is a smart move, They have two of the biggest properties in there hands and they dont want both clashing with each other. Seperating the release dates for both gives both franchises plenty of time to catch its audience. When you think about it, Transformers and TMNT attract the same audience. Those who grew up watching the original shows in the 80s, Who are all grown up and have kids, So they will take there kids to see these movies.

[pingclang]

Just means it'll suck in August instead of June.

[Slap-Happy]

I wonder if this move also means... That the studio wants to convert it to 3D?
That can't be done in a month. If it was being converted, I think we would've heard about it already.

[TigerClaw]

That can't be done in a month. If it was being converted, I think we would've heard about it already.
True, Sometimes a studio would push back a release date to announce the movie being converted to 3D, Which they haven't for this. But you never know.

[Andrew NDB]

They couldn't even begin to reverse engineer the 3D element until Paramount is done with all the CGI on the motion-capture Turtles... and you can bet they'd be working on that and fine-tuning that until pretty much the last minute.

[ToTheNines]

Ironic that the Nick TMNT "movie" debuted on 8-8.

That's about the only interesting thing about this, though.

[Grimlock]

I don't even get what Viacom hopes to accomplish with this movie. Is it really going to make TMNT more known to the masses?

Maybe they hope to accomplish the same thing the Transformers film did back in 2007. Bring a ton of fans back to the franchise, and make a crap ton of money. Genius.

[MrTMNT2012]

Ironic that the Nick TMNT "movie" debuted on 8-8.

That's about the only interesting thing about this, though.

Maybe they'll do another Booyaka-Movie for Season 2 on August 8th....it'll be a TMNT entourage!

(Hopefully not cause I can't stand Season 1's scheduling again....)

[Roseangelo]

OMG THIS IS MY BIRTHDAY. EVEN IF THE MOVIE SUCKS THIS WILL BE AWESOME.

Yes, that needs to be in all caps.

[Andrew NDB]

OMG THIS IS MY BIRTHDAY. EVEN IF THE MOVIE SUCKS THIS WILL BE AWESOME.

Yes, that needs to be in all caps.

I dunno, I'd be pissed if a TMNT movie that ended up being ghastly dropped right on my birthday.

[Grimlock]

I dunno, I'd be pissed if a TMNT movie that ended up being ghastly dropped right on my birthday.

I bet if Michael Bay said the turtles would sporting all red bandanas, you would be totally behind this film.

[Bossa Nova]

Aw, this kinda blows. June 6th was the day right before my birthday, I was pretty stoked to go see it to celebrate since it's not like I'll be doing much else (the thrills of having friends who have all moved across the country). Guess no turtle birthday for me this year.

[MikeandRaph87]

That is disappointing that we have to wait a little longer. I did not know that Transformers 4 was coming out in the summer of next year. Has that one even started filming? I thought November. I understand not wanting its two tent poles to not run into nor another but why not push Transformers back ot mid July and not have Ninja Turtles be the one to have to be moved?

[chrisdude]

It's disappointing, but the reasoning is fair. I can't really complain...

[Donatello19]

Like others have said, it's just two months...and besides, no other big movies will premiere in August anyway, so it doesn't have to worry about competition.

[Grimlock]

That is disappointing that we have to wait a little longer. I did not know that Transformers 4 was coming out in the summer of next year. Has that one even started filming? I thought November. I understand not wanting its two tent poles to not run into nor another but why not push Transformers back ot mid July and not have Ninja Turtles be the one to have to be moved?

Transformers has been filming for quite some time now.

[chrisdude]

Come to think of it... Why is Transformers coming out first, when TMNT just wrapped? T4 surely won't be a faster movie to make. Doesn't that mean TMNT is gonna be finished and sitting a shelf by the time Transformers comes out?

I guess Transformers has proven that it deserves the best weekend possible, but still...

[NYShell]

I fear for the success of this movie. I think it's good TMNT won't have much competition but Guardians (don't know anything about that franchise so I won't say anything) Still wish TMNT had the summer blockbuster spot TF took. I hope TMNT gets a lot of exposure.

[TigerClaw]

Come to think of it... Why is Transformers coming out first, when TMNT just wrapped? T4 surely won't be a faster movie to make. Doesn't that mean TMNT is gonna be finished and sitting a shelf by the time Transformers comes out?

I guess Transformers has proven that it deserves the best weekend possible, but still...
Probably cause it takes a while to render realistic looking Turtles more then giant robots?

[Master Splinter]

T4 surely won't be a faster movie to make.

I kinda think it actually might be faster to make. They already have the tools ready to create giant robots, computers are faster, and they have done it three times now.

-ms

[Andrew NDB]

I bet if Michael Bay said the turtles would sporting all red bandanas, you would be totally behind this film.

That would be as misleading as it would be insulting to the source material.

[MikeandRaph87]

Transformers has been filming for quite some time now.

So Bay was filming two at the same time? Never followed Transformers so I cannot not say anything about the movies, but wouldn't the studio want to give a solid weekend to a perspective franchise opposed to another one that may not have to come out at the earl May to July 4th time frame? By the end of July only the mediocres are usually held out. I am a little concerned about timing with the releease and yeah it looks like the studio is playing favorites with Trnasformers opposed to the franchise I long followed.

[Galactus]

Hey maybe they should avoid all potential competition and just release this straight to DVD?

[CyberCubed]

Hey maybe they should avoid all potential competition and just release this straight to DVD?

Maybe they should have just adapted IDW #1-12 and made that into a movie.

[Grimlock]

Maybe they should have just adapted IDW #1-12 and made that into a movie.

A mediocre comic adaptated for a movie. How exciting.

[The Stryker]

A mediocre comic adaptated for a movie. How exciting.

Worked for the first movie.

:)

[Xav]

Shut up. There's nothing here that says anything remotely close to that.They pushed back the release date three times, they don't usually do that to films they think are gonna do well.

[Grimlock]

Worked for the first movie.

:)

Good point.

[Andrew NDB]

They pushed back the release date three times, they don't usually do that to films they think are gonna do well.

Usually, but the earlier delays were production-related (reworking the script, etc.)... this is the first delay that is solely based on scheduling. And it's not so much that they don't have faith in TMNT Part 5 (although I don't, and neither should you) as much as it is slotting it on a date that maximizes the profitability.

[TigerClaw]

Keep in mind that the move puts TMNT5 a week after Guardians of the Galaxy.

We got a movie with a talking anthropomorphic Raccoon that shoots guns, and a talking anthropomorphic Tree. After that, We have a movie with a talking anthropomorphic Rat that teaches talking anthropomorphic Turtles the art of Ninjitsu. I think its safe to assume that the movie will do fine. :)

[Refractive Reflections]

Eh... whatever...

:lol:

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

I bet if Michael Bay said the turtles would sporting all red bandanas, you would be totally behind this film.

Actually, if Raphael was voiced by Will Smith and Mikey voiced by Martin Lawrence, and then it became the unofficial Bad Boys III starring Raphael & Mikey...Then I'd be there Opening Day.

Maybe it thinks it'll have the success of Rise of the Planet of the Apes...didn't that have an Early August release date?

[CyberCubed]

A mediocre comic adaptated for a movie. How exciting.

Yes, because a movie with human-faced Turtles, whitewashed colonel Eric Sachs as Shredder, possible alien Turtles, a militrary foot with gorilla masks and Megan Fox as April sure sounds like a winning combination, right?

[Grimlock]

Yes, because a movie with human-faced Turtles, whitewashed colonel Eric Sachs as Shredder, possible alien Turtles, a militrary foot with gorilla masks and Megan Fox as April sure sounds like a winning combination, right?

Don't judge a book by it's cover. Unless you've read it, then judge the crap out of it.

[Grimlock]

That would be as misleading as it would be insulting to the source material.

Insulting to the source material? Insulting. Really. How so?

[chrisdude]

Keep in mind that the move puts TMNT5 a week after Guardians of the Galaxy.

We got a movie with a talking anthropomorphic Raccoon that shoots guns, and a talking anthropomorphic Tree. After that, We have a movie with a talking anthropomorphic Rat that teaches talking anthropomorphic Turtles the art of Ninjitsu. I think its safe to assume that the movie will do fine. :)Didn't know that was a week after Guardians. Sounds like they're moving TMNT to help Transformers, not TMNT.

[Coola Yagami]

Insulting to the source material? Insulting. Really. How so?

The all-red bandanas kinda hint it would be a hardcore Mirage-style themed movie... only to have the Channel 6 news crew and Turtle Van and other ish.

[Ravenxl7]

As long as the movie comes out I'll be fine. That said, this is most definitely favoritism. Even worse that it's favoritism towards a **** movie franchise. Oh well, like I said, as long as this movie sees release, I'll be fine. They've passed the point of no return, so this movie will be released...eventually. It probably won't do well at the box-office, but then again, no matter when they released it next year it would have been going up against something stronger audience-wise.

That said, no matter how this movie turns out, I want it to be considered a financial success. I don't think it failing would kill the franchise, but it wouldn't help it. I'd rather this franchise live with a sub-par movie series, than to have to recover from a big box-office failure. The Transformers movies have, somehow, been huge financial successes thus-far, so who knows. We could have a similar situation with TMNT.

[CyberCubed]

I honestly almost want this movie to bomb so no chances of a sequel can happen.

[chrisdude]

I hope that one day, when they do make a movie that sticks to the "source material," it's full of Utroms, Triceratons, Fugitoid, space ships - and all the casuals say, "Dag, this crap is ridiculous. Why didn't they just use Krang and the Technodrome?"

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

If crap like Grown Ups 2 can be box office gold, I dont see how TMNT wouldn't do well.
It's not a new property, like Pacific Rum. And we do not represent the majority fanbase. I would be surprised if this didn't make a lot of money in the box office.

I would honestly rather see a follow up to the CG TMNT movie...

[BabyTurtles]

I'm not too bummed~ we can gather alot more TMNT fans by then!! :D

[TrickOrTreater]

Didn't know that was a week after Guardians. Sounds like they're moving TMNT to help Transformers, not TMNT.

Yep. They're protecting their number 1 proven money-maker.

Oh well.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

"Dag, this crap is ridiculous. Why didn't they just use Krang and the Technodrome?"



People said that about the first 4 films. At least the people I run into, especially online.

[Grimlock]

The all-red bandanas kinda hint it would be a hardcore Mirage-style themed movie... only to have the Channel 6 news crew and Turtle Van and other ish.

Oh wow, super hardcore Mirage! Blood, guts and beer. All red bandanas, badass turtles and... oh wait, is that the Party Wagon?! This movie is for babies, lets go home, dude. I got some hardcore ninja turtle books to read.


Please.

[Powder]

Hardcore presumably means 'completely in the vein' of, in this context.

[ZariusTwo]

That would be as misleading as it would be insulting to the source material.

And who honestly gives a s*it about the source material? The franchise has done fine without it.

[Plasticplayhouse]

Worked for the first movie.

:)

turned out to be the best one we got thus far.

[pingclang]

Woooow you people like to dump all over the Mirage books. You folks do realize that if the original books didn't exist there would be no Turtles, right? That aside, everyone keep waving your opinions around like they're some holy relic with the answer to all things written on them. It's good entertainment.

[Coola Yagami]

Woooow you people like to dump all over the Mirage books. You folks do realize that if the original books didn't exist there would be no Turtles, right? That aside, everyone keep waving your opinions around like they're some holy relic with the answer to all things written on them. It's good entertainment.

Not to mention classic characters like April, Casey, leatherhead and the rat king. Without the utroms in mirage thee would be no Kraang in the new show.

[Bob]

I personally don’t think Paramount is done yet. I can see them moving it again to later in the year. I think it would thrive in November.

[The Stryker]

Woooow you people like to dump all over the Mirage books. You folks do realize that if the original books didn't exist there would be no Turtles, right? That aside, everyone keep waving your opinions around like they're some holy relic with the answer to all things written on them. It's good entertainment.

I know that and appreciate that they existed.

Doesn't mean that I have to think they're great books.

[Andrew NDB]

Insulting to the source material? Insulting. Really. How so?

From all indications it's Fred Wolf TMNT: The Movie through and through, with a series of Michael Bayisms injected into the mix to boot.

That's quintessentially, in and of itself, the antithesis of the source material.

[TigerClaw]

From all indications it's Fred Wolf TMNT: The Movie through and through, with a series of Michael Bayisms injected into the mix to boot.

That's quintessentially, in and of itself, the antithesis of the source material.
And I don't mind that its loosely based on the Fred Wolf series, Because that was my very first exposure to TMNT.

[CyberCubed]

But it's nothing like the OT.

Shredder is white, the Foot are military, there is no Krang, and the Turtles have humanoid faces.

[pingclang]

Not to mention classic characters like April, Casey, leatherhead and the rat king. Without the utroms in mirage thee would be no Kraang in the new show.

Exactly. We owe a lot of stuff to the originals.

I know that and appreciate that they existed.

Doesn't mean that I have to think they're great books.

In that same spirit, doesn't mean you have to crap all over it either.

[The Stryker]

In that same spirit, doesn't mean you have to crap all over it either.

Expressing my opinion that I didn't care for the books is crapping on it?

Wanna just stop any and all negative comments towards anything ever? No opinions for anyone? The mirage comics aren't some sacred cow.

[Xav]

Shredder is white, the Foot are military, there is no Krang, and the Turtles have humanoid faces.Wait a second, where are you getting the idea there is no Krang, and the Turtles have humanoid faces?

[pingclang]

Expressing my opinion that I didn't care for the books is crapping on it?

Wanna just stop any and all negative comments towards anything ever? No opinions for anyone? The mirage comics aren't some sacred cow.

I wasn't specifically talking about you and yes, Stryker. I want to end all negative comments ever about anything, that's exactly what I said isn't it? Jesus get the **** over yourself.

[TonySiegel]

is it to late for this movie to get canceled?

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/272/908/3e7.png

[thebrownranger]

Probably cause it takes a while to render realistic looking Turtles more then giant robots?

True. I've learned in my brief stint of 3D animation that organic modeling is a more complex/longer process than hard surface modeling, especially when it's time to render. Then again, it also depends on how fast and how many hours these animation studios are putting in to get the job done efficiently. If we're going with Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes for turtles, we can most likely expect that they're gonna try to go top notch with skin and body modeling/subdivisions, texturing, cloth simulation, UV lighting, rigging the character models, etc. Let's not forget hair simulation for the Master Splinter we have yet to see.

On the other hand, hard surface models like Transformers can prove to be just as difficult as organic ones like TMNT considering what we've seen in the previous TF movies already. I remember hearing in the behind the scenes for TF1 that one of the Autobot models consisted of about 10,000-30,000 individual modeled pieces. Rigging a Transformer with this many parts (making the skeleton) seems like a way longer process than mutant turtle. TMNT will probably have nowhere near that many individual modeled pieces, but perhaps a higher polygon count which slows down the rendering process drastically. Not only do they have to create characters, but CG environments too (if needed).

Motion capture, animation, and rendering is an entirely different process in itself. It all really depends on how hard these studios are working.

Would love to see TMNT detailed to this extent, in another setting of course:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cF-_OwhN_s

[Leo656]

Didn't see this thread when I replied in the other one. To repeat:

"Total vote of no-confidence on the part of the studio. You can tell a lot about how they view their product by when they choose to release it (for example, any horror movie worth anything comes out before Halloween, while any and every horror film released in February is always garbage).

It's smart thinking on their part. TMNT would get MURDERED going against Transformers 4 and the others the article mentions. Plus, since shooting wrapped seemingly so quickly, it would seem that more of it than we thought may be CGI, so it's going to require a lengthy editing and post-production process.

Bottom line, if they really believed they had a blockbuster, they'd release it alongside them, not a month later when they'll have no competition. The movie's bottom line will be better for it, but the move DOES expose that they're still crossing their fingers and hoping for the best with this one."

Also, I completely understand hoping for the best and not wanting to judge things before they're finished. I do. But I'm an analytical sort of person, one who ponders things from all angles, investigates, speculates, tries to predict the end result of this, that and the other... it's just fun for me. I have no vested emotional stake in this movie turning out good or bad. I'm simply of the opinion it will be not so hot, based on everything we know so far. And despite what some of the cockeyed optimists say, we DO have enough facts to get at least a preliminary idea of where the bar for this movie is, and it's low.

That's called "making a preliminary supposition based on facts and evidence;" That's entirely different from "rooting for something to fail". Let me also state, that being overwhelmingly positive about something in spite of all evidence is just as wrong, and irritating, as being overwhelmingly negative about something. Furthermore, this movie may "succeed" at being, as some have speculated, "Goofy dumb fun that's great if you shut your brain off." That's 100% what I'm expecting. That's also still called "A Bad Movie" by any objective, completely unbiased definition. And since we've gotten more than that from TMNT in the past, I was hoping we'd get more than that this time, too.

If it does turn out to be much better than expected, I imagine many of us doubters will be more than happy to recant our positions, while still maintaining that it wasn't perfect and there were indeed things wrong with it. Which isn't "hating"; more like the "I love you but I'm not IN love with you" kinda deal.

[pingclang]

Thank you, glad someone can find the right way to put it.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

August has never been a big blockbuster month. Strange choice.

It can be a month for surprise hits, though.

Month of release has nothing to do with movie quality. Writing, directing, acting, etc. does. Not that I'm expecting a whole lot from Platinum Dunes, but I don't think this is a reason to be a Chicken Little.

[TigerClaw]

It can be a month for surprise hits, though.

Month of release has nothing to do with movie quality. Writing, directing, acting, etc. does. Not that I'm expecting a whole lot from Platinum Dunes, but I don't think this is a reason to be a Chicken Little.
True, Guardians of the Galaxy is opening on week before the new TMNT. Marvel Studios put it there cause, They know they cannot compete against Transformers 4. So it was wise for them to put it in the beginning of August, Paramount putting the new TMNT in August was a wise decision because, when you compare Transformers to the TMNT, Transformers is a much bigger property with a huge merchandising push behind it. Putting the new TMNT in August against a new Marvel property will give it a better chance. After all you have two movies with talking anthropomorphic animals in it. So its a win win for both.

[zbowen]

Guardians is the biggest gamble that Marvel has taken so far. I think it's great and I can't wait to see those characters, but it's not like the title is a household name. Turtles have been successful for a few decades, I'm betting the Turtles will gross more. Even though I probably want it to bomb so the property can't be touched by Michael Bay ever again.

[Teal Turtle]

I am slightly upset it has been pushed back 2 months because I was hoping for a trailer by November/December but I guess it gives them for time to perfect the CGI.

I just hope we get a sneak peak at the turtles by years end.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Guardians is the biggest gamble that Marvel has taken so far. I think it's great and I can't wait to see those characters, but it's not like the title is a household name. Turtles have been successful for a few decades, I'm betting the Turtles will gross more. Even though I probably want it to bomb so the property can't be touched by Michael Bay ever again.

I hope Guardians is a success. Anything that breaks the mold of a typical superhero movie.

[Teal Turtle]

I hope Guardians is a success. Anything that breaks the mold of a typical superhero movie.

I agree and i'm sure it will be!

[SoapLover]

I hope they don't keep pushing it back. Sometimes these movies take FOREVER. God I hope it's decent.

[Bob]

TMNT now has the 8th of August all to themselves, as Universal blinked first and moved their Dracula reboot to October. Basically, TMNT will more than likely be the number one film that week, unless GOTG is an exceptional breakout hit.

[TigerClaw]

TMNT now has the 8th of August all to themselves, as Universal blinked first and moved their Dracula reboot to October. Basically, TMNT will more than likely be the number one film that week, unless GOTG is an exceptional breakout hit.
Where you heard this news?

[Bob]

Where you heard this news?

It’s taken from a short article posted on Deadline Hollywood. It doesn't mention the TMNT thing, that was me. However, I find it hard to believe that that didn't factor into Universal's thinking somewhat.

[AlZarkovski]

Oh, sorry guys... But what does this mean?

http://inagist.com/all/400293460277600256/

The new delay?

[TigerClaw]

Oh, sorry guys... But what does this mean?

http://inagist.com/all/400293460277600256/

The new delay?
Are we supposed to believe some tweet from some random person?

[Discogod]

Are we supposed to believe some tweet from some random person?

Nathan Rabin's a damned good journalist. It'd be nice to have official confirmation, but I'm inclined to believe this is legit.

[chrisdude]

Is this a joke? Who is Elaine May?

[Powder]

How the shell can they do rewrites on a film that's been in post production for months?

[Roseangelo]

How the shell can they do rewrites on a film that's been in post production for months?

There are always reshoots. And if this is true, it's not a good sign. It means they're putting together the movie and realizing that it sucks, so this would be a last ditch effort to "save" it.

[NinjaPug]

Yep, in World War Z they rewrote and completely changed the 3rd act of the movie after viewing the original cut of the film.

Not a good sign if this is true although the rewrite could lead to a better movie.

[xChri5x]

That's what happens when you hire a lackluster director.

[Redeemer]

Damn I hope this news is false, bc it is not a good sign like everyone says.

[sgtfbomb]

There are always reshoots. And if this is true, it's not a good sign. It means they're putting together the movie and realizing that it sucks, so this would be a last ditch effort to "save" it.

The reality of it is a lot of times, you get the film assembled (the assembly cut never plays well, for the record) and see spots where you need improvement or clarification or see something you need to emphasize more, or even remove a once-integral scene that is completely unnecessary or redundant and need to re-connect the dots. Sometimes, you will find something that worked better on page but didn't work so well on film.

That's what the assembly cut is for. It's like the drafting process all over again. It's like when you're writing or sculpting, and you put it together, and go over it, make revisions, or refine the detail more.

[Plasticplayhouse]

Is this a joke? Who is Elaine May?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_May


Yep, in World War Z they rewrote and completely changed the 3rd act of the movie after viewing the original cut of the film.

Not a good sign if this is true although the rewrite could lead to a better movie.
Not what I'd like to hear (if true), but better them fix a weak link now than simply push on for the sake of saving some cash.

from the sounds of it, they plan to make 3 tmnt films, so i'm sure they want to put their best foot forward and make a quality movie. if this is true, i don't see anything wrong with it. i'm sure it happens more often than we know in the movie industry.

[AlZarkovski]

This guy post one more stange tweet:

"Now, we could have gotten anyone to beef up the role of April O'Neil: Cody, Fisher, but we chose you," studio guy, presumably.

[Leo656]

I'm more convinced than ever they didn't have anything close to a finished script, and this movie is just going to be one giant point-and-shoot-and-make-it-work-later patchwork job. :roll:

[Davetello]

This film really is going to be absolute sh!te and inferior to the other four, isn't it?

Not a prediction of Nostradamus proportions, granted, but the news just gets worse and worse. Being an optimistic sort of guy I was holding out hope, but that's eroding more as time goes on.

It's such a shame. I really wanted this to be brilliant.

[Andrew NDB]

There are always reshoots. And if this is true, it's not a good sign. It means they're putting together the movie and realizing that it sucks, so this would be a last ditch effort to "save" it.

Probably. My vote is for them to cut their losses and shutter the entire production and everything already filmed. Later on they can give all the footage to the Turtle Doc guys and they can do a vignette about "How to Do a Really Sh*tty Turtle Movie" and show some of it there, complete with new interviews with William Fichtner looking clueless and talking about "it was wacky, I say. Wacky!"

This film really is going to be absolute sh!te and inferior to the other four, isn't it?

That's not really saying much but yes, it looks like it's going to be even worse than all the other Turtle films. Significantly worse, but with prettier special effects and possibly better looking Turtles.

[Prowler]

Probably. My vote is for them to cut their losses and shutter the entire production and everything already filmed. Later on they can give all the footage to the Turtle Doc guys and they can do a vignette about "How to Do a Really Sh*tty Turtle Movie" and show some of it there, complete with new interviews with William Fichtner looking clueless and talking about "it was wacky, I say. Wacky!"



That's not really saying much but yes, it looks like it's going to be even worse than all the other Turtle films. Significantly worse, but with prettier special effects and possibly better looking Turtles.

Do you include the first movie in the "bad movies" list, as well. Sure it was not a masterrpiece but it was definitely a decent movie.

[Andrew NDB]

This film really is going to be absolute sh!te and inferior to the other four, isn't it?

Not a prediction of Nostradamus proportions, granted, but the news just gets worse and worse. Being an optimistic sort of guy I was holding out hope, but that's eroding more as time goes on.

It's such a shame. I really wanted this to be brilliant.

Do you include the first movie in the "bad movies" list, as well. Sure it was not a masterrpiece but it was definitely a decent movie.

It's as close as TMNT has ever gotten in mainstream. It's just too bad it was, in fact, only "decent." Even sadder that every movie since then has gotten further and further away from the few glimmers of things in the first film that were solid, until finally now we've arrived at some kind full-on, bastardized Fred Wolf movie.

[MiBs]

It's as close as TMNT has ever gotten in mainstream. It's just too bad it was, in fact, only "decent." Even sadder that every movie since then has gotten further and further away from the few glimmers of things in the first film that were solid, until finally now we've arrived at some kind full-on, bastardized Fred Wolf movie.

Why do you think it will be Fred Wolf like? I more getting a vibe of a over the top, action-for-the-sake-of-action kind of movie with big, buff, Hulk-looking Turtles

[Shark_Blade]

This doesn't damper my excitement for the movie.

Bring it on.

[Bob]

Wait a minute, people actually believe this?

[Davetello]

Yeah I still really enjoy the original film. It was as serious a take as was possible at the time, given that the audience was mainly kids. I still love it though.

SotO, 3 and TMNT aren't great movies by any stretch of the imagination but I still watch them as they're entertaining enough.

[MiBs]

Wait a minute, people actually believe this?

what do you mean?

[Redeemer]

This film really is going to be absolute sh!te and inferior to the other four, isn't it?

I dont think its possible to make a movie as bad as secret of the ooze

This guy post one more stange tweet:

"Now, we could have gotten anyone to beef up the role of April O'Neil: Cody, Fisher, but we chose you," studio guy, presumably.

Now I am wondering if this guy is just high off his rocker, bc that doesn't even make sense :lol:

[Powder]

Why do you think it will be Fred Wolf like?

April in yellow, being a news reporter, Vernon, Irma, Burne (sorta), the whole channel 6 thing on a whole, really. Plus there's a turtle van, we've got at least one turtle going around the streets in a hat and trench coat, original leaked script featured Krang, Bebop & Rocksteady, so obviously someone is looking towards that universe for influence. There's probably more that I'm forgetting.

[MiBs]

April in yellow, being a news reporter, Vernon, Irma, Burne (sorta), the whole channel 6 thing on a whole, really. Plus there's a turtle van, we've got at least one turtle going around the streets in a hat and trench coat, original leaked script featured Krang, Bebop & Rocksteady, so obviously someone is looking towards that universe for influence. There's probably more that I'm forgetting.

yeah, of course. When I think about Frank Wolf it's the lighthearted tone and the comic relief that comes to mind. And I'm not so sure about that part. But maybe I'm wrong

[Shark_Blade]

I love that they're taking inspiration from OT/Fred Wolf. :D

[Donatello19]

As a kid I always wanted to see awesome, live action Bebop and Rocksteady costumes just like the turtles for the movies. It would be awesome to see them in this movie.

[TigerClaw]

As a kid I always wanted to see awesome, live action Bebop and Rocksteady costumes just like the turtles for the movies. It would be awesome to see them in this movie.
Unfortunately Bebop and Rocksteady wont be in this movie, But I bet if they do a sequel, they will.

[Donatello19]

Unfortunately Bebop and Rocksteady wont be in this movie, But I bet if they do a sequel, they will.

Yeah, I'm aware. Just saying, it would be cool if they were. Since they were in that original leaked scrip thought, it's obvious that they were at least considered.

[sdp]

Too bad the original Mirage inspired movie never happened, that's a what if Laird hadn't sold the turtles, however I think I'm the only one genuinely excited for the movie, it seems such a crazy interpretation of the turtles that it just might work. At the very least it'll be fun, something that hasn't really happened since TMNT II.

I'm sure we'll get a Mirage version eventually after this version is rebooted, but we do have the original movie which while dated works, this new take seems interesting enough. TMNT IV was just so lackluster.

[Casey]

Too bad the original Mirage inspired movie never happened, that's a what if Laird hadn't sold the turtles, however I think I'm the only one genuinely excited for the movie, it seems such a crazy interpretation of the turtles that it just might work. At the very least it'll be fun, something that hasn't really happened since TMNT II.

I'm sure we'll get a Mirage version eventually after this version is rebooted, but we do have the original movie which while dated works, this new take seems interesting enough. TMNT IV was just so lackluster.

I consider Barron's film to be inspired by Mirage. There are several plot points taken straight from the comics and even bits of dialogue and whole sequences. There aren't too many super hero movies that are based on comic book characters that stick directly to the plot lines laid out by the original books. That movie added only a few elements from the toyline/cartoon to help encourage a wider audience.

[krangsaneurysm]

more waiting... but it's a smart move overall, can't compete with Transformers.

[HeroTurtlesFan]

however I think I'm the only one genuinely excited for the movie, it seems such a crazy interpretation of the turtles that it just might work.

No, there are plenty of us. We're just often drowned out by those that are not excited!!

[NinjaPug]

Just think, if they'd stuck to the original release date we'd be seeing this movie (at least the version from the leaked script) in 5 days.

[mikey22]

Aliens invade Earth and inadvertently spawn a quartet of mutated reptile warriors, the Ninja Turtles, who rise up against them to defend the world.


wow i really dont like that imdb description eep.

[MastahShredder]

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[CyberCubed]

I wish this movie was "moved" to the canceled bin.

[Eiko]

I wish this movie was "moved" to the canceled bin.

You really should just wait till you see it first then judge.

[Ninjinister]

Aliens invade Earth and inadvertently spawn a quartet of mutated reptile warriors, the Ninja Turtles, who rise up against them to defend the world.


wow i really dont like that imdb description eep.

Sounds like Mirage/2K3 origin mixed with 2012's.

[chrisdude]

That's been the IMDB description since back when the Michael Bay said "aliens," and the title was "Ninja Turtles." It just hasn't been updated.

[NinjaPug]

Didn't know where to post this and didn't want to start a new thread but they're about to do some reshoots.


“@alanritchson: And so begins the return to being green. #reshoots #TMNT #Raph #ishouldprobablystretch”

[Powder]

Jesus Christ. They're never gonna finish this movie, are they?

[NinjaPug]

Reshoots are standard. The new X-Men movie, which is out in May, just did reshoots about a month ago.

[Andrew NDB]

Aliens invade Earth and inadvertently spawn a quartet of mutated reptile warriors, the Ninja Turtles, who rise up against them to defend the world.

wow i really dont like that imdb description eep.

That's been the IMDB description since back when the Michael Bay said "aliens," and the title was "Ninja Turtles." It just hasn't been updated.

Still, I wouldn't be surprised if that's still the case. This would make them, after all, mutants and not aliens. And it's unlikely an angle as large as an "alien invasion" was completely scrapped from the script when production was shut down briefly for rewrite.

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I stared at it for a moment, thinking it was about to reveal William Fichtner... but then that. Nice.

Jesus Christ. They're never gonna finish this movie, are they?

We should be so lucky.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

"Michael Bay's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Coming to a cinemas near you on August 20th, 2055"

That's what it feels like to me.

[Bob]

I know everyone here will blow it out of proportion, but in all honesty, reshoots are incredibly standard. Especially for films such as this. No one will listen to that, though, hence why we're just going to have loads of posts like the one above.

[Andrew NDB]

I know everyone here will blow it out of proportion, but in all honesty, reshoots are incredibly standard. Especially for films such as this.

That's true. In a big budget movie like this, it'd be weirder if there wasn't some manner of reshoots.

As someone a bit in film myself, the only real oddities from a production standpoint are 1) That they actually opened a production office for the film without a finished script and then shut down said office for rewrites for a few months (I don't even know of another time this has ever happened for any film), 2) That it's 7 months from release and there isn't so much as a teaser trailer of any kind.

[TigerClaw]

Reshoots are a common practice on filming. Typically they look at all the footage they shot in the editing room and then for various reasons, Decide to do some reshoots to add more to the existing footage that were originally shot. Who knows what the reshoots could be, Perhaps its to include more info in the story.

[Chris]

That it's 7 months from release and there isn't so much as a teaser trailer of any kind.

This is the part that worries me. I know the main characters are very CGI heavy but no teaser trailer (or even teaser poster) this late in the game is never a good sign.

[xChri5x]

Reshoots:
https://twitter.com/alanritchson/status/421689451916455936

[Powder]

Imagine if we were talking about that already.

[PizzaPower]

havent been watching the new cartoon (son has though), but all I can say is im really excited for this new movie.