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psychturtle
08-17-2013, 12:29 AM
Good. Check it out
Leo656
08-17-2013, 12:42 AM
Just got back from seeing it. I liked it a lot but not as good as the first. Mostly it was just the dialog (most of it was very badly "fake" sounding), a slightly predictable plot and one or two plot holes that were either resolved too easily OR entirely impossible to believe.
Kick-Ass's buddy from school who got all disgruntled and joined the bad guys... HE was really almost entirely responsible for Dave/Kick-Ass's father being murdered, and the movie doesn't even go there and deal with that AT ALL. "I was being a whiny bitch because my friends were being dicks to me, so in turn I mostly-accidentally got one's father brutally murdered. My bad, I'm in over my head." I know they were at the "Let's wrap this movie up and get the big fight scene on" point of the movie, but a plot point THAT big really needed better resolution. That was the only thing that REALLY bothered me about the movie.
Past that, the post-credits scene kind of seemed way too implausible, even for this kind of movie. Dude DIED in the shark tank; they really messed up releasing this movie too close to Shark Week, because right now it is fresh in everyone's mind that 1. Sharks can't stand still and not move or they die, so the "joke"the whole movie about the shark being dead or asleep until Chris falls into the tank was already implausible, but even worse is the idea that a shark would somehow STOP eating someone once they got his arms, legs, and reproductive organs. I know they have to set up another sequel, but c'mon, man. Dude is DEAD. But eh, whatever.
Frankly, I'd rather see the third movie be a Hit-Girl spin-off. The biggest problem with both this movie and the original, is that Kick-Ass is arguably the least interesting character in his own movie, with Hit-Girl twice out being the most interesting. Her arcs have so far been more thought-out and developed, while the main character is STILL more or less a novice who's in way over his head, which while funny at times, makes him a weak protagonist.
I did like the movie a lot, though. Just still room for improvement. Anyone who liked the first will like it, anyone who hated the first won't have their minds changed by this one.
I did kinda think the revelation that Dave's girlfriend from the first movie was cheating on him the whole time between then and now was kind of unnecessary, in that now when you look back at the original you're like "Eh, whatever, she's a whore" instead of viewing her as one of the "good" or "innocent" characters. But eh, movies. Had to get rid of her for the sake of hooking him up with Night Bitch. I get it. Just kinda came out of left field.
chrisdude
08-17-2013, 11:24 PM
As a huge Kick-Ass fan, this movie was just alright... The thing I most praised the first movie for, is adapting the comic into a goods movie. They didn't preserve every minute detail, and they even changed a few big things, but I think those the decisions actually made for a better movie.
The Kick-Ass comic series in four parts. Kick-Ass, Hit-Girl, Kick-Ass 2, and Kick-Ass 3 (currently two issues in).
Without getting into spoiler territory (because I would recommend anyone who likes these movies to read the comics), the events of the Hit-Girl series follow soon after Kick-Ass 1. Mindy is 12 years old. So, the challenges for this movie are that Chloe Moretz grew up, and this movie adapts both Hit-Girl and Kick-Ass 2. Their solution was basically to say, "Eh, nothing's been going on for the past couple years until now," then overlap the two stories, and leave a heck of a lot out. I think that's the cause for most of the things that don't make sense. It's all a big patch job.
Zulithe
08-18-2013, 12:31 AM
I really want to see it despite the bad reviews. Sigh, if only they'd secured the director behind the first one.
Looks like this Jeff Wadlow guy is writing/directing the upcoming X-Force movie as well. :ohwell:
ObiWanFan4life
08-18-2013, 06:32 AM
To be honest, I prefer the first movie over this comic to this day. That's not to say I hate the comics, but the movies had actual heart and depth. I enjoyed Kick-Ass 2, but I enjoyed 1 a lot more.
This is one of the few movies I've been looking forward to this year :D
Shark_Blade
08-18-2013, 06:45 AM
I haven't seen it though I read the comics..
Is the rape scene in the movie? Or the decapitation scene? Cheap shock value but eh, doubt it'll be in the movie.
Not that I look forward for those things, but I care of how much faithful it is to the original source material.
chrisdude
08-18-2013, 09:09 AM
To be honest, I prefer the first movie over this comic to this day. That's not to say I hate the comics, but the movies had actual heart and depth. I enjoyed Kick-Ass 2, but I enjoyed 1 a lot more.I think that's fair. There are definitely things in the first movie that liked about the characters, that weren't from the comic. The first movie, Kick-Ass, is what I originally fell in love with. It's actually what revitalized my interest in comics, for the first time since childhood. I don't really have any comics between the return of Superman in the 90's and Kick-Ass. But I've been all over Mark Millar's books since then, and a few other things. Like IDW TMNT, movie tie-ins, etc...
I haven't seen it though I read the comics..
Is the rape scene in the movie? Or the decapitation scene? Cheap shock value but eh, doubt it'll be in the movie.
Not that I look forward for those things, but I care of how much faithful it is to the original source material.
Nah... Those scenes were spun differently.
Zulithe
08-19-2013, 06:42 AM
Alright, watched it today and mostly liked it. Actually after the bad reviews I've skimmed over I liked it more than I thought I would. Definitely not a bad sequel if you liked the first, it's just that the storyline isn't as strong as it could be. But that's the fault of the comics. Millar kinda botched the follow ups (KA2 and the Hit Girl miniseries), but the characters, humor and premise are still strong enough to carry it.
The whole relationship between Hit Girl and her guardian is so ****ing boring. Same with KA and his dad. I'm so glad that KA3, if they do end up following through with it (yeah, I know it's been greenlit) doesn't have to deal with those characters anymore.
Really liked the new characters, especially stars & stripes (sad he doesn't get a whole lot to do. i'd almost say he feels like a waste), night bitch, and the new hired supervillains. the mother****er/red mist still delivers some great comic value
So yeah I'd definitely see it
Favorite lines:
"WATCH ME END YOUR LIFE"
"I'm soaked"
"I'll be immortal, like an evil Jesus!"
Leo656
08-19-2013, 06:49 AM
I haven't seen many reviews, but most I've seen were about ** to **1/2, which is normal for this kind of movie. I didn't expect it to be a movie critics would embrace; it's too balls-out ridiculous and over-the-top for that.
TigerClaw
08-19-2013, 07:04 AM
It looks like its not doing well at the boxoffice, Its currently #4.
http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
The same thing happened with the first film, But it did well on video and had a cult following.
The main reason why this film isnt doing well at the boxoffice would have to be one main factor. Its an R rated superhero film, That is a huge risk for the studio considering that The Avengers is still fresh on people's mind, And the fact this film is rated R. You lose a major chunk of the audience. The other thing was the whole controversy with Jim Carrey not supporting this film cause it's too violent, Some would see it because of the controversy but, it probably ultimately hurt the film's chances.
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