R.I.P. Tommy Morrison

[MikeandRaph87]

1990s' notable boxing champ and co-star of Rocky V as Tommy "The Machine" Gunn the rouge upcoming protege of Rocky was tested positive for HIV in 1996 hower continued to box a few more bouts. He died of mutiple organ failure at the age of 44. I did not know he had contracted HIV and .suffered from the disease for a decade and half so it comes as a surprise. Goodbye, Mr.Gunn.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/to ... --box.html

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/diashows/tommy-morrison-eine-karriere-in-bildern/tommy-morrison-1.jpg

[shuriken]

He was pretty underrated and struggled with the Law after the whole HIV test. He still believed that it was a false positive. RIP Duke

[Leo656]

Well sh*t. That's a shame.

I knew about the HIV... honestly (and I do feel bad about this), I kinda thought he already died.

I'm the one guy that appreciates Rocky V for what it is and doesn't sh*t on it for being inferior to the prequels. I liked him in it.

[BubblyShell22]

Not a boxing fan, but this is a shame. 44 is way too young to die. He will be missed. R.I.P.

[Discogod]

The guy was a scumbag. Even after contracting HIV he refused to believe it and carried on having unprotected sex with numerous women. He could have been one of the all-time great fighters, but instead he chose to piss it away.

[Leo656]

That is really f*cked up, but I don't think anyone deserves to die an AIDS-related death. It's terrifying to watch; I can't imagine living with it.

AIDS and cancer are the only things I'm really afraid of.

[Andrew NDB]

Damn. And I just re-watched Rocky V the other night.

[Leo656]

Willingly? I thought I was the only one who did that.

[Andrew NDB]

Willingly? I thought I was the only one who did that.

Rocky V only ever sucked as an ending point for the series. With us now having Rocky (VI) Balboa, V is no longer that... and now has become a pretty important step on the way to the finale. IMHO.

That said, it still makes me want to punch the TV every time the scene plays with Paulie apologizing for losing all of Rocky's money seemingly out of nowhere.

[Leo656]

"'EE'S DA T'EEEEF!" :lol:

But yeah I absolutely agree, man. I always loved V, not the best by far but the "worst" Rocky movie is kinda like the "worst" BJ, what exactly is there to complain about? In either case you're already off to a good start just because of what it is. :lol:

And "Rocky Balboa" was awesome. Sometimes I take a day and watch all 6 in a row. My personal training clients f*ckin' hate me that following week. :lol: "Am I really gonna have to work out with a guy who just watched 6 f*cking Rocky movies? In a ROW???"

[Andrew NDB]

kinda like the "worst" BJ, what exactly is there to complain about?

Depends. There can be a lot, especially if the girl teeths the hell out of you.

[Leo656]

Yeah, I was thinking about that, but then I'm like, "just leave the joke alone, don't overcook it." :lol: I was hoping you'd come back with something similar, anyways.

And SOME people will pay good money for exactly the discomfort you've described. :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

And SOME people will pay good money for exactly the discomfort you've described. :lol:

Those poor bastards...

[Leo656]

Yeah man. It's an easy way to get AIDS.

HAHA! I actually got something back ON topic. Somewhere, a fairy just lost her wings and was promptly eaten by a badger.

[TheCanadiandrome]

i was shocked when i read about this last night, RIP indeed. such a sad loss

[shuriken]

Damn. And I just re-watched Rocky V the other night.

Ya know I still think it's better than Rocky IV. I hated a lot of things about IV. (the robot, Creed dying, Steroids, CHange speech, Bridgette Nielson)
Stupid Paulie losing all of Rocky's money...:lol:

[Leo656]

Aw c'mon, Brigitte Nielsen was hot for like another 5 whole minutes after that movie was made. At least that says *something* for her involvement in the film.

And Rocky IV was wonderful, especially the soundtrack. I blast "No Easy Way Out" sometimes when I work out. Sometimes when I don't work out. Or every day. Don't f*cking judge me, man.

[shuriken]

Aw c'mon, Brigitte Nielsen was hot for like another 5 whole minutes after that movie was made. At least that says *something* for her involvement in the film.

And Rocky IV was wonderful, especially the soundtrack. I blast "No Easy Way Out" sometimes when I work out. Sometimes when I don't work out. Or every day. Don't f*cking judge me, man.

Oh don't get me wrong I love the soundtrack. Its perfect for workouts, getting pumped up and and days when you know you can blast it when there's no one around or when playing Rocky Legends.
But the movie itself is terrible terrible propaganda. More like a propaganda music video. Just one looooong music video, or like 10 different music videos all sewn together awkwardly culminating in an awesomely over the top 15 round battle. Everything felt rushed and just ridiculous, but then again this was th mid eighties and I'm sure Sly just wanted to finishe the project before moving on to his next Action vehicle like Cobra or something (Brigette Nielson again :o)
At the very least Rocky V tried something different.

[Leo656]

Well I think he was nailing her at the time, if I'm not mistaken.

All the things you list as "flaws" are just part of why it's so great! :lol: Sure, it's not as technically good a film as the epic first, and the fact it has neither Hulk Hogan OR Mr. T means it can never truly stand the test of time, BUT it's a perfect 1980s time capsule.

If the bombs dropped and we had to preserve only the most important things for future generations to discover, and we could only include ONE movie to explain what the 1980s were about, it's Rocky Motherf*cking IV. Even if the only mullet in the movie is on Brigitte Nielsen. And hers was more epic in Red Sonja. But I digress.

Plus, I'm partial to Rocky in the flag trunks. And I love Dolph Lundren in general. Such an epic training montage... and then an even MORE epic training montage... ohhhhh man, I gotta watch those movies again. Then I'm gonna do 100 one-armed push-ups and punch someone.

[shuriken]

Well I think he was nailing her at the time, if I'm not mistaken.



He was totally nailing her at the time. But sure. Almost perfect time capsule for 1985. All it needed was some cocaine in it and it'd be perfect.

[Leo656]

I do get what you mean, but nothing is better with cocaine. :ohwell:

Actually, it's absence from the Rocky movies was really welcome to me, given how much it showed up in '80s movies in general. I get it, I just don't like it.

[XERO]

Probably still my favorite Rocky fight next to the Clubber Lang match.

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RIP, Tommy Gunn. "I'm not gonna knock you out this time... I'm gonna put you thru da street!"

[Leo656]

Confession: I've yet to actually follow through on the threat, but I *have* used the "put you through the street" line in real-life fight situations. :lol:

[XERO]

lol It's a corny, yet, intense line.

[Andrew NDB]

Plus, I'm partial to Rocky in the flag trunks.

As am I, and they functioned as an excellent tribute to Apollo. He should have had them on against Mason Dixon.

The robot was the only thing I disliked in Rocky IV. It was obviously a metaphor about "machines" taking over (Drago being another "machine" that must be contended with) but they could have gotten the message over differently.

[Leo656]

Yeah, it didn't really add anything, BUT, it was the '80s. And everything tastes better with just a *little* cheese. :lol:

I too was confused about Rocky not rockin' the flag trunks in "Rocky Balboa". Whenever I make him in boxing games I always use the closest analog I can to those (since they so rarely put Rocky's trunks in boxing games, BUT they do in wrestling games, go figure).

[Andrew NDB]

I too was confused about Rocky not rockin' the flag trunks in "Rocky Balboa".

I'm pretty sure the "story" reason is a combination of after Tommy Gunn wore them in Rocky V and he became corrupted, the flag trunks became unlucky and because they were Apollo's trunks to begin with and Rocky wanted to return to his roots for the Rocky Balboa fight, with yellow and black trunks (ala his first fight against Apollo and presumably many fights before he ever met him).

Now... I'm pretty sure the "Real" reason, though, is because of the very public falling out between Carl Weathers and Sylvester Stallone and Stallone not wanting to have Rocky go off into the sunset wearing the trunks of Carl's character.

[Leo656]

That all makes perfect sense. I'm not privy to what happened between Carl and Sly. What went down between them?

[Andrew NDB]

That all makes perfect sense. I'm not privy to what happened between Carl and Sly. What went down between them?

Something about royalties from the Rocky movies, Carl said Stallone "screwed him" and Stallone's stance has always been a big "F*** you" right back to him.

You'll never see Carl Weathers in an Expendables movie.

[Leo656]

Ahh, money. Along with alcohol, the cause of and solution to all of life's problems.

Was he really a big enough action star to be an Expendable anyway? I mean, yeah, there's Rocky and Predator, but aside from that the only action movie I remember with Carl was "Assault on Devil's Island", which was a made-for TNT Hulk Hogan vehicle in the late-90s.

[Andrew NDB]

Was he really a big enough action star to be an Expendable anyway? I mean, yeah, there's Rocky and Predator

Sh*t, between those two, does there need to be anymore?

And you forgot to list Action Jackson:

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[Leo656]

Didn't see it. :ohwell:

But yeah, no matter who it is, if "Rocky" and "Predator" are on the ol' resume that's a pretty good career by itself.

[shuriken]

I'm pretty sure the "story" reason is a combination of after Tommy Gunn wore them in Rocky V and he became corrupted, the flag trunks became unlucky and because they were Apollo's trunks to begin with and Rocky wanted to return to his roots for the Rocky Balboa fight, with yellow and black trunks (ala his first fight against Apollo and presumably many fights before he ever met him).

Now... I'm pretty sure the "Real" reason, though, is because of the very public falling out between Carl Weathers and Sylvester Stallone and Stallone not wanting to have Rocky go off into the sunset wearing the trunks of Carl's character.

Well techically the White and Red trunks are the ones he used to fight Apollo the first time. Yellow and Black is when he won the title. I guess he used it the most while champion in the beginning montage of Rocky 3 so that makes sense.
Sucks about Weathers' and Sly's falling out. When did that happen? I'm sure it was after 04 (used Carl's likeness in Rocky Legends)but before Rocky 6.

[Andrew NDB]

Well techically the White and Red trunks are the ones he used to fight Apollo the first time. Yellow and Black is when he won the title. I guess he used it the most while champion in the beginning montage of Rocky 3 so that makes sense.

Hm, I guess you're right.

When did that happen? I'm sure it was after 04 (used Carl's likeness in Rocky Legends)but before Rocky 6.

Not sure the exact timeline. About the game that might be different, since that money likely wouldn't be going into Stallone's pocket, necessarily.

Hey, has anyone played this? Ivan Drago: Justice Enforcer. It's halfway entertaining. The end boss is a wheelchair-bound Rocky, and also a cyborg version of yourself.

http://www.mostfungames.com/ivan-drago-justice-enforcer.htm

[Leo656]

Haven't played that. But I did have some fun with the Rocky game from about 10 years ago, neat little boxing game. Literally 5 minutes later Fight Night came out and made it look simple and archaic by comparison, but eh, it's fun on its own.

I bought Rocky Legends but never played it, as my PS2 died shortly after. I hear it expands a little on the first game, I still intend to play it once I get another PS2. I think both games would have done better, but they came out a few years before "Balboa" was made and many years after the franchise had been relevant in any appreciable sense, so there really wasn't an audience for it, aside from "people who are desperate for a game based on Rocky 20 years after the fact."

Based on the sales numbers, that audience was me and a few others, and that's about it. :lol:

[shuriken]

^^ Yeah Rocky Legends expands very little on Rocky's, Drago's, Apollo's, and Clubber's backstory.It has a few neat little snippets of where they started out and has a little story mode. The extra content is also pretty neat like the trailers and venue descriptions. It doesn't expand much and the game play is a bit stiff and not too great. There are like 50 some characters ranging from Spider Rico to Tony Duke, Micky Goldmill and even Paulie (who fights with a cigar in his mouth for some reason) and yes 4 different Rockys(ies?) and the 5 titular villains. It's fun to play with friends that preferably like Rocky.
But yeah the Fight Night games are fantastic and blow it out of the water.

Hey, has anyone played this? Ivan Drago: Justice Enforcer. It's halfway entertaining. The end boss is a wheelchair-bound Rocky, and also a cyborg version of yourself.

http://www.mostfungames.com/ivan-drago-justice-enforcer.htm

YES it's pretty fun.

[Leo656]

If it's basically like the first Rocky game, but more of it, then I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun with it.

[Plasticplayhouse]

wow that sucks. he may or may have not been a scumbag, i do not know, but the last few years of his life must've been a hard life to live.

[shuriken]

Yeah dude was in and out of Jail and tried to mount a comeback in 2007. Scumbag or not RIP