View Full Version : Justin Timberlake wants to play The Riddler in Batman/Superman movie
CyberCubed
09-07-2013, 01:10 AM
Justin Timberlake has said that he wants to play Batman villain The Riddler.
The 'Take Back the Night' singer ruled out reuniting with his Runner, Runner co-star Ben Affleck to play Robin in the Man of Steel sequel, but admitted that he would be keen to portray a bad guy from the Dark Knight's rogue's gallery.
"Not a chance in hell. I ain't playing Robin. I have no aspiration to ever be a superhero in a movie," he told Fresh 102.7's Jim & Kim show.
"Now, a villain! I'll tell you the villain I want to play more than anything because I grew up loving Batman, funnily enough, is The Riddler. The Riddler is my favorite villain.
"The Riddler was like a sociopath. He was proper crazy. So if I'm gonna play crazy, I'm wanna play proper crazy."
The Riddler was previously played by Jim Carrey in 1995's Batman Forever.
Timberlake also voiced his support for new Batman star Affleck, who has come under fire from fans since his casting was announced last week.
"Ben Affleck as Batman, I like it," Timberlake said. "I worked with Ben last summer and I've seen his process. I think he's a brilliant filmmaker. I think he's an extreme talent so he could surprise a lot of people."
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a510897/justin-timberlake-i-want-to-play-batman-villain-the-riddler.html#ixzz2dPApcSLI
While I doubt it'll ever happen, I'm really not surprised so many people want The Riddler in the next Batman film. If I remember correctly didn't people want The Riddler in the last Nolan film before we knew about Bane and Catwoman?
Jester
09-07-2013, 01:12 AM
Could get behind this. Timberlake is a decent actor.
CyberCubed
09-07-2013, 01:17 AM
There's most likely going to be at least one Batman villain in the new movie too.
I think the reason why so many people want Riddler is because he and Lex Luthor would work well together. Both are incredibly intelligent and could scheme together toward their own ends.
Leo656
09-07-2013, 01:49 AM
Eh. I'm neutral on Riddler but I can't stand Timberlake.
Slade
09-07-2013, 02:13 AM
I don't mind Timberlake. I don't mind The Riddler, but I'm not to sure about Timberlake as Riddler.
They should honestly give Jim Carey another shot at this, but get him to play it straight. He's unhinged, and a great actor to boot.
Guitar_Raph
09-07-2013, 06:26 AM
Bet Frank Gorshin's turning over in his grave.
Then again, if Timberlake can voice Boo Boo, he could pull off being the Riddler.
That Matt Guy
09-07-2013, 07:41 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if they did get him involved. I'd rather see Crispin Glover as the Mad Hatter. Fund it.
Allio
09-07-2013, 11:39 AM
Bet Frank Gorshin's turning over in his grave.
Then again, if Timberlake can voice Boo Boo, he could pull off being the Riddler.
admittedly, he is a pretty good voice actor
BubblyShell22
09-07-2013, 03:03 PM
I think it would be neat to see Justin play a villain as it's something we haven't really seen from him, and I think he could pull it off, especially since he's a fan of The Riddler.
CyberCubed
09-08-2013, 09:39 PM
Jim Carrey's Riddler was the only redeeming part of Batman Forever. That and Nicole Kidman who was absolutely stunning in that movie.
BODYCOUNT
09-08-2013, 09:46 PM
Not sure if Timberlake has teh chops for it. But im sure since affleck has final approval of the script he'll be more involved with everything unofficially. it could work. "In Time" was a good movie.
Leo656
09-09-2013, 01:41 PM
I hated Carrey's Riddler. It wasn't just over-the-top, it was over the freakin' moon. Thus literally everyone in "Batman and Robin" followed his lead from "Forever" and put on a horrendous display of over-acting. His take was also oddly homo-erotic, which I'm sure was entirely because of the director.
As a kid I was excited to see both Riddler and Jim Carrey's take on it (although I was annoyed how they rewrote the entire script around just him and paid him a bunch more money than anyone else got). In the end I just didn't care for it. The character itself is already a bit too cheesy to work anywhere but the comics and the Adam West show; taking the 60s portrayal and turning it up to 11 didn't thrill me.
I'd be up for a more grounded, less silly and slightly more sinister take on the character, though. I do enjoy the character, but the stories where he's handled to full potential are few.
CyberCubed
09-09-2013, 02:02 PM
A Riddler like the one in Arkham City would work for me.
ryukenden
09-09-2013, 03:41 PM
^ If he can pull off Jigsaw Riddler, I'm fine with that.
chrisdude
09-09-2013, 06:35 PM
I'd be cool with seeing Riddler. And he seems like a cool villain to team up with Luthor. As for Timberlake, I have no idea. I haven't really seen him act.
Andrew NDB
09-09-2013, 06:50 PM
I don't know that I even am in any hurry to see the Riddler on the big screen again.
And no, Jim Carrey's Riddler was ghastly. As was every aspect of both Schumacher movies.
Turo602
09-09-2013, 07:10 PM
I think The Riddler would be perfect, even if it's just a cameo thing in Gotham. Of course, I would like to see a darker take on Riddler, like in Arkham City. And no to Justin, nothing against him, just no. Other than that, I think it'll be kind of lame to have him team with Luthor. I'd still rather see Metallo while Luthor works behind the scenes.
Leo656
09-09-2013, 10:21 PM
And no, Jim Carrey's Riddler was ghastly. As was every aspect of both Schumacher movies.
Not gonna lie, if nothing else was right about either movie, I thought the Robin costume in Forever was as good as could possibly be done on film. That's the *one* thing I liked from the start and still like. You can scrap the rest of both of 'em, though.
ToTheNines
09-09-2013, 10:24 PM
Not gonna lie, if nothing else was right about either movie, I thought the Robin costume in Forever was as good as could possibly be done on film. That's the *one* thing I liked from the start and still like. You can scrap the rest of both of 'em, though.
I've always thought they should go with the Tim Drake Red Robin costume if Robin ever makes a big screen appearance again.
Also, Batman Forever was fun and way the **** better that Batman Returns. Bleh.
CyberCubed
09-09-2013, 10:47 PM
Batman Forever had too many problems to enjoy it fully:
- No Michael Keaton as Batman. His replacement was just dull and forgettable.
- Robin does little in the movie. At the end he's tied up and Batman has to save him, essentially making Robin not much more than a useless sidekick for Batman to look after
- Two-Face was horrible. They tried making him into a Joker clone. Why was Two-Face giggling and laughing throughout the entire movie? Since when did Two-Face become a poor mans version of Joker? I just couldn't get over how horribly handled he was.
- The overall plot was awful. Didn't like Riddler's brain-drain device or whatever that was supposed to be.
- Really bad campy dialogue at points, not as bad as Batman and Robin but it was almost at that point.
Jim Carrey's Riddler was alright though, at least for laughs. Jim Carrey was having tons of fun in that movie and you just had to like him whether he was a good Riddler or not.
Oh and Nicole Kidman was hot. Too bad she turned into an ugly hag in the years after.
Leo656
09-09-2013, 11:03 PM
That tends to happen when someone's had lots of plastic surgery and then they age. "Allegedly".
I think what annoyed me most about "Forever" was that most of it seemed like Gotham was inside some kind of neon discotech. Tommy Lee Jones only did the movie for his kid or something, so his heart wasn't in it. I also figured they'd have to replace Keaton eventually, but doing it with someone who had no resemblance to him at all was jarring. I also didn't like that they allegedly ended up paying Carrey more than the amount they'd *refused* to pay Keaton. Essentially, they decided Jim Carrey's guest-starring role in one movie was more important than keeping the main franchise player. I didn't, and don't, agree.
As the story goes and went, The Riddler role was originally the supporting villain role to Billy Dee Williams's Two-Face, but they couldn't agree on what to pay Williams or Robin Williams, who really wanted the Riddler part but wanted it to be bigger a bigger part and have a bigger payday. So basically, WB discarded three major stars, two of whom were already under contract, and bet the entire movie on Jim Carrey. Since I was following the news on production (the first movie I really did that with), by the time the movie came out I was already disappointed with it. I liked it more than I thought I would, but I doubt it was any better than the movie that was originally intended.
CyberCubed
09-10-2013, 09:16 PM
I was only like 9 or 10 years old when Forever hit, so as a kid I thought it was good although I immediately recognized that Batman was different since Keaton was gone. But I revisited it as a teen and then again in recent years and it makes me realize how bad the movie actually was.
I don't think people realized back in 1995 that this was truly a poor movie, if you look online at the reviews for the movie from 1995 it got fairly decent reviews at the time. Its only after Batman and Robin came out that people wondered where the decline started and looked back at Forever and realized how much a departure it was from the Tim Burton films. Of course when the Nolan movies started the hatred of the last two films before reached an all-time high.
It makes me sad that Tim Burton and Michael Keaton didn't get to do a trilogy. Batman Forever could have been excellent if it was made similar to the first two.
Leo656
09-10-2013, 11:24 PM
Possibly, but the franchise was already going off the rails with Returns. After he success of the first one and bowing to certain studio demands, Burton got to make "his" Batman movie with the sequel, and frankly it's kind of a mess. The plot and character motivation is kind of a muddle, Catwoman, while hot, isn't really Catwoman, they tweaked Penguin just to play into Burton's obsession with "freaks", and all the metaphors about "freaks and outcasts" and how "we all wear masks/have two faces" was really heavy-handed and overdone. It could have been seeds for Billy Dee's turn as Two-Face in the next movie, but he was barely in Returns so if it was supposed to lay seeds for the sequel it did a fairly poor job of it.
Ultimately, it ended up just being less a Batman movie and more a "Tim Burton" movie, and it was too unnerving and "weird". Losing the McDonald's marketing sponsorship really hurt the movie's bottom line, costing them millions of dollars, and already had WB deciding the next movie would be getting far away from Burton's vision of things. If he had just reigned himself in a little bit on "Batman Returns", we *might* have gotten that trilogy after all, but he fell into a big trap he always sets for himself: He puts far too much of himself into his films at times. It's good in cases like Beetlejuice and Edward Scissorhands, where he's simply telling his own stories, but when he tries to adapt someone else's work he's fairly bad at it, because he always comes in with the same attitude of, "I don't care about the source material one bit, I'm just going to project my ideas onto a loose skeleton of the original concept."
"Returns" was a decent movie, but it really wasn't the best way to take the franchise, ultimately, because it scared the studio away from what they thought was a sure thing, the "dark and gritty" approach of the first. So they ended up going *too* far the other way with "Forever" and "Batman and Robin". Burton openly disdains comic books, so he was always a very, very odd choice to make a comic book film in the first place. At the time, he claimed to have studied the comics of the day for information, but it later came out that by "studied" he mostly meant "looked at artwork panels for iconic imagery to use". The visuals are there in spades, but honestly, any storyline similarities between Burton's Batman and the comic book Batman were *entirely* by accident. It just so happened that some of his original ideas on the first film clicked well, not so much for "Returns".
Billy Dee Williams as Two-Face, though... I *really* wanted to see that. Although it would have been better if they had used him more in the first two, so that when he turned in part three it would have had more impact. Although, I can't imagine it having *less* impact than it did in "Forever", what with the whole, "We join our story in progress, Harvey Dent's a bad guy now, don't ask just roll with it" way they presented it. That was horrible.
Davetello
09-12-2013, 09:08 AM
Haha, no thanks. Timberlake's one of the most overrated goons on the planet and would destroy the Riddler (who happens to be one of my favourite Bat enemies). He's an even worse actor than he is musician so I'd rather he just crawled back into his hole, if he doesn't mind.
The Stryker
09-12-2013, 09:10 AM
Haha, no thanks. Timberlake's one of the most overrated goons on the planet and would destroy the Riddler (who happens to be one of my favourite Bat enemies). He's an even worse actor than he is musician so I'd rather he just crawled back into his hole, if he doesn't mind.
Awww. Such a little rebel! Got a Justin Beiber rant in ya?
Davetello
09-12-2013, 09:16 AM
Awww. Such a little rebel! Got a Justin Beiber rant in ya?
I've seen you about, always making snarky comments to others. I'm not sure why my comment warranted such a cheeky response but, unlike others, I'm not the type of guy who will sit and take your bullying, so get to **** you cowardly little freak. You're a bellend.
Oh, and I'm more anti-One Direction than anti-Bieber. Dickhead.
The Stryker
09-12-2013, 09:23 AM
I've seen you about, always making snarky comments to others. I'm not sure why my comment warranted such a cheeky response but, unlike others, I'm not the type of guy who will sit and take your bullying, so get to **** you cowardly little freak. You're a bellend.
Oh, and I'm more anti-One Direction than anti-Bieber. Dickhead.
I'm sure you're the most badass guy on the block. Hating pop acts and saying they're overrated. Fight that grain, dawg!
Bellend is a new one. Put that on the big board I guess.
Davetello
09-12-2013, 09:23 AM
And if you're implying that my two line paragraph on Timberlake was some form of rant (you asked if I'd do similar with Bieber, after all), then it's clear you have much to learn about me. If I was ranting you'd know about it.
Davetello
09-12-2013, 09:38 AM
I'm sure you're the most badass guy on the block. Hating pop acts and saying they're overrated. Fight that grain, dawg!
Bellend is a new one. Put that on the big board I guess.
See, this is a bit of a straw man that you've created. I make an innocent post expressing my disdain for a celebrity (which nobody on here should find offensive) and then you attack me like the coward that you are. I stand my ground and tell you that I won't accept being bullied and disrespected by you like others do (and I've seen others take it from you when they really shouldn't) and you attempt to twist it as me thinking I'm some sort of macho man? Since when was standing up for oneself a form of dominance? If anything you're the one who's trying to be a 'badass' here by denigrating me and trying to make me your subordinate. Also, I most certainly don't think I'm a 'hardman' by insulting pop stars. If you knew me you'd know I have perspective - there's many other people who I dislike more than pop stars.You don't have much of an education do you?
The second 'paragraph' is just pure drivel. Let me clue you in - 'bellend' is British colloquialism for the head of a penis. You seem like an insular American so I knew you'd struggle with this phrase. As a result I also added in the similar insult 'dickhead'. Despite this, you still don't seem to understand that you're a complete tool. "Putting on the big board" is just inane nonsense.
Seriously, if you're going to bully people on here, you'll need to be wittier because you're a failure of a troll. I've seen (and dealt with) far, far better.
Before you reply with more gibberish, just remember that I've been lurking here for years. I've thought you were a complete non-entity long before you were even aware of my existence - I've cringed at many of your posts. I expected I'd cross paths with you at some point. I'm sad to say that the experience has been as unpleasant as expected, but not as unpleasant as your horrid personality. It's been a great displeasure conversing with you.
Powder
09-13-2013, 03:39 AM
Now THAT is a rant.
Davetello
09-13-2013, 04:50 AM
Now THAT is a rant.
Curiosity got the better of you eh? I thought you were done and didn't wanna argue any more :lol:
Yes, it's a rant (although not really by my standards), but it's interspersed with accurate points i.e. that he attacked me for no reason, and then when I defended myself he accused me of thinking I'm a hardman. It's not just ad hominems.
Also the fact that he has previous for this. So yeah, it was a rant, but one that he needed to hear because he seems to get away with belittling people.
Hahaha, lordy. Someone takes their dislike for JT super seriously.
CyberCubed
09-13-2013, 02:45 PM
I don't know what's going on here, but I just hope Riddler isn't gay in the new movie if he's used. Its rather obvious Jim Carrey's Riddler was a flaming homosexual.
Leo656
09-15-2013, 05:58 PM
Actually, I rarely if ever see Riddler fawning over any chicks, so he actually could be a decent character to "out", but I doubt WB wants to use their billion-dollar Superman/Batman film franchise as a way to push the envelope.
I could entirely see Riddler being gay, but he wouldn't be openly gay in a new movie, anyway. I think it's fairly obvious Carrey's Riddler had an extreme man crush on Bruce Wayne, though, and the fact he was basically mincing about in gowns near the end of the movie didn't help. My interpretation has always been that *that* version of Riddler was gay but didn't need to expressively say so. And it could'a been toned down a bit.
As for people hating on Timberlake or any other pop star, so what? So it's not "original", who cares if that's how a person really feels? A good number of people who don't want to sleep with Justin Timberlake feel he's obnoxious, narcissistic, lacking any talent beyond whispering "yeah baby" into a microphone over music someone else made, and gets way too much attention, and it annoys some people. That's their/our right. Do we have to bitch about it? No, but if someone hates pop stars or pop music they have the right to say so without getting snark'ed. If it's such an "unoriginal" opinion, it probably has some merit, since so many people seem to feel the same way.
Some people are sheep, yeah, but it's really, really easy to dislike pop music and pop stars based on how manufactured and phony it all is. That's their prerogative, if someone wants to hate on Timberlake or Bieber, oh well. People shouldn't have to stifle opinions because too many people feel the same way, that's silly.
Seriously, if you're going to bully people on here, you'll need to be wittier because you're a failure of a troll. I've seen (and dealt with) far, far better.Are you a narcissist or just lonely?Between this thread and the disabilities one all I've really gathered from you is that you think you "best" everyone on the internet. So I'm left to wonder if you a narcissist who thinks he's smarter than everyone else or very lonely and this is how you think you make friends by being the white knight of the internet.
shuriken
09-16-2013, 11:51 AM
Hahaha, lordy. Someone takes their dislike for JT super seriously.
Don't you know? Hating Timberlake is serious business.
I personally have nothing against the guy and think he'd do a decent job if given the opportunity. The only thing I hated him in was the Love Guru and everything in that movie was terrible.
Andrew NDB
09-16-2013, 01:00 PM
Neither Batman Forever or Batman & Robin are even worth the calories burned it would take to discuss or acknowledge them in any capacity.
shuriken
09-16-2013, 03:00 PM
^^ I guess you hate those two movies with a fiery passion of a thousand suns huh?
I liked forever. Its not a masterpiece by any means. There were things i disliked (OCD Two Face, super flamboyant Riddler, SO MUCH NEON) and things I liked (Nicole Kidman, Pre obese Val Kilmer kicking ass).
Either way if people are complaining about a cast call, it's usually a good thing (because Michael Keaton is a comedy actor and Heath Ledger plays the handsome gay guy)
Andrew NDB
09-16-2013, 03:06 PM
Casting had very precious little to do with the laundry list of things wrong with those two "films."
Lord Nightwalker
09-22-2013, 12:56 AM
Neither Batman Forever or Batman & Robin are even worth the calories burned it would take to discuss or acknowledge them in any capacity.
Agreed. They could have promoted them as tributes to the 60's era Batman and maybe gotten away with things a bit better though.
Frank was the best Riddler on film. Even back then he played his Riddler somewhat more seriously than the rest of the cast. Gotta get Doc Brown to go back and get him for the MOS sequel if Riddlers' in it. Or maybe David Tennent can pull it off.
shuriken
09-23-2013, 02:02 AM
Casting had very precious little to do with the laundry list of things wrong with those two "films."
Whie I agree that there could have been people better cast in BF and BAR I meant Justin Timberlake, and I guess a little bit of Ben Affleck too.
Whatswiththeheadbands?
09-26-2013, 03:49 PM
Agreed. They could have promoted them as tributes to the 60's era Batman and maybe gotten away with things a bit better though.
Frank was the best Riddler on film. Even back then he played his Riddler somewhat more seriously than the rest of the cast. Gotta get Doc Brown to go back and get him for the MOS sequel if Riddlers' in it. Or maybe David Tennent can pull it off.
Interestingly enough, when the dark knight rises was announced, people made fan posters of David Tennent as the Riddler.
Here's one of them:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Llxf0Z81zHA/SK1PKzbqNcI/AAAAAAAAA1w/TksSJraZluY/s320/Batman_3_Poster___Riddler_by_joshwmc.jpg
Leo656
09-27-2013, 01:08 AM
I remember when Page Six said the big rumor for "Batman 3" right after The Dark Knight came out was Philip Seymour Hoffman as The Penguin and Johnny Depp as The Riddler (since Depp apparently has to at least be *offered* every role there is to play :roll:). Nothing ever came of that, obviously, but it made the rounds for about a month back then. Might've been interesting as its own movie, definitely not the "blockbuster finale" of a trilogy, though.
blindturtle02
10-03-2013, 09:41 AM
Funny you guys mentioning Batman and Robin. I'm considering buying the film. No, I don't want to play frisby with the dvd or use it as a coaster. I'll give you 3 reasons. Mike Nelson, Kevin Murphy, and Bill Corbett. Rifftrax is the only way anyone could possibly convince me to suffer through this movie again.
And I guess I'd go see Justin as Riddler. He and Lex would indeed work well together. Lex and Riddler, rather. If Lex decided to convince Justin to team up, then he belongs in Arkham.
Leo656
10-04-2013, 12:37 AM
Seeing Justin Timberlake on screen trying to portray even a semi-serious villainous role and sharing screen space with guys dressed like Superman and Batman would be a very quick way to completely ruin any sense of "reality" in the world of the film, I'll tell you that for nothin'. Total Richard Pryor effect. Maybe not as severe, but same general area.
blindturtle02
10-04-2013, 10:16 AM
Seeing Justin Timberlake on screen trying to portray even a semi-serious villainous role and sharing screen space with guys dressed like Superman and Batman would be a very quick way to completely ruin any sense of "reality" in the world of the film, I'll tell you that for nothin'. Total Richard Pryor effect. Maybe not as severe, but same general area.
Yeah, I have mixed feelings about Justin as a villain. Not really sure if that'll work. I'd try the movie but not getting my hopes up very much. I think it might flop. I just want more DC movies, but not sure how this is all going to pan out.
ledahead
10-08-2013, 01:31 AM
I don't mind Timberlake but he is at best an average actor. He might surprise us but I doubt it.
Logan
10-08-2013, 09:11 AM
No, I don't want Justin Timberlake to have anything to do with the Batman franchise. He's overrated and more than a little bit obnoxious.
blindturtle02
10-08-2013, 09:25 AM
No, I don't want Justin Timberlake to have anything to do with the Batman franchise. He's overrated and more than a little bit obnoxious.
He sure does seem full of himself. That's true. At least that's the impression I get. When I was still living in Memphis a few years ago, I remember hearing my grandma ranting about something down stairs. She was cussing and everything. I discovered he was opening some sort of golfcourse or barbecue place? I can't really remember what the deal was. When I asked her why she was so mad she just goes,"Oh I just hate that little sht. He just annoys me with his nasally singing voice and all. I made a cake dear. Would you like some?" Grandma's awesome lol.
Shark_Blade
10-08-2013, 09:54 AM
He sure does seem full of himself. That's true. At least that's the impression I get. When I was still living in Memphis a few years ago, I remember hearing my grandma ranting about something down stairs. She was cussing and everything. I discovered he was opening some sort of golfcourse or barbecue place? I can't really remember what the deal was. When I asked her why she was so mad she just goes,"Oh I just hate that little sht. He just annoys me with his nasally singing voice and all. I made a cake dear. Would you like some?" Grandma's awesome lol.What is this even .. lol :lol::tlol:
blindturtle02
10-08-2013, 10:57 AM
What is this even .. lol :lol::tlol:
My point is even 80something year-old grandmas have a strong dislike of JT. I seriously doubt howler monkeys feel any affection for him either. Oh, and that he has a home in Memphis and enjoys being seen about town when he visits. Justin, not the howler monkey.
shuriken
10-14-2013, 03:37 PM
^^Your train of thought is kinda hard to follow, but your grandma sounds lovely.
Davetello
11-08-2013, 06:56 PM
Hahaha, lordy. Someone takes their dislike for JT super seriously.
That's a bit of a dumb thing to say considering I focused on Timberlake for all of about 2 lines, and my 'rant' was a reaction to 'Strykers' attack on me. In essence the fallout had little to do with Timberlake, really, and I'd have reacted similarly to Stryker if it had been about someone else I had a slight dislike for. My short comment on Timberlake was simply the catalyst. Don't you think if I took my dislike for 'JT' - cringeworthy to see you call him that, by the way, do you have his poster on your wall? Almost as embarrassing as the clowns who call David Beckham 'Becks' - super seriously I'd have posted a long rant? Especially given you've now seen how I can react when truly irritated?
You didn't really think your comment through did you? Perhaps consider what you're saying before trying to put others down, you moronic troglodyte. You tried to be cutting but were as blunt as ****.
Looking at your username though, I think I remember clocking you as one of the 'thinks it's cool to be a dickhead' clique, so no surprise that you're getting involved.
Davetello
11-08-2013, 07:06 PM
Are you a narcissist or just lonely?Between this thread and the disabilities one all I've really gathered from you is that you think you "best" everyone on the internet. So I'm left to wonder if you a narcissist who thinks he's smarter than everyone else or very lonely and this is how you think you make friends by being the white knight of the internet.
I don't spend much time on the internet, really.
I've been accused of narcissism by a few people, but those who know me personally are aware that I'm actually a down to earth guy. I just have very strong feelings on certain subjects, hence the discussion in the other thread. When I am passionate about something I can drag things out, not always a good thing but it's better than being a sociopath. Empathy is important I feel - I had a strong moral compass long before I started using the internet, so it most certainly isn't an online thing for the most part.
Continue to throw out the dull strawmen about me thinking I'm the 'white kinght' of the internet though. They're very amusing. Don't give up your day job because your pseudo-psychological attempts to evaluate my character are painful.
Everyone on here knows that Stryker is a **** of the highest order. He antagonised me simply for succinctly and innocently expressing my generally dormant dislike for Timberlake. Now I'm the one who's copping the flack for daring to defend myself. I dare say the sly little weasel loved reading some of the responses.
Davetello
11-08-2013, 07:12 PM
As for people hating on Timberlake or any other pop star, so what? So it's not "original", who cares if that's how a person really feels? A good number of people who don't want to sleep with Justin Timberlake feel he's obnoxious, narcissistic, lacking any talent beyond whispering "yeah baby" into a microphone over music someone else made, and gets way too much attention, and it annoys some people. That's their/our right. Do we have to bitch about it? No, but if someone hates pop stars or pop music they have the right to say so without getting snark'ed. If it's such an "unoriginal" opinion, it probably has some merit, since so many people seem to feel the same way.
Some people are sheep, yeah, but it's really, really easy to dislike pop music and pop stars based on how manufactured and phony it all is. That's their prerogative, if someone wants to hate on Timberlake or Bieber, oh well. People shouldn't have to stifle opinions because too many people feel the same way, that's silly.
As always, I agree with a large part of your post. It's no real surprise to me. Some imbeciles think certain people are disliked because it's 'fashionable'. The real sheep are the gimps who go around acting like Justin Timberlake is some sort of Led Zeppelin figure in the music business. It's been covered extensively by both of us on this forum and by myself elsewhere - the entertainment business is a mess, it's more about image and presentation than substance. I don't 'hate' Timberlake' because I don't know him, but I do consider him the David Beckham of music i.e. an averagely talented individual who has been hyped up way beyond his vastly more talented peers simply because of his so-called 'good looks' and mythical 'charisma' (although as an aside I'd say Beckham is far better looking than Timberlake, but that's not the point).
As for me being accused of narcissism in a thread where my mocking of Justin Timberlake (of all people) was the catalyst for the fallout - that's just priceless.
Davetello
11-08-2013, 07:15 PM
I don't mind Timberlake but he is at best an average actor. He might surprise us but I doubt it.
No, I don't want Justin Timberlake to have anything to do with the Batman franchise. He's overrated and more than a little bit obnoxious.
Funny how you two haven't been attacked by internet clown Stryker for being 'badasses'. I guess it was just me who was worthy of the dubious honour of being on the receiving end of his wrath - in this particular thread at least.
And sorry for the multiple replies above. Despite the fact that I apparently live on internet forums I didn't realise there was a way to multi-quote until now. I could edit them all but I don't think some of you are worth the extra effort.
That's a bit of a dumb thing to say considering I focused on Timberlake for all of about 2 lines, and my 'rant' was a reaction to 'Strykers' attack on me. In essence the fallout had little to do with Timberlake, really, and I'd have reacted similarly to Stryker if it had been about someone else I had a slight dislike for. My short comment on Timberlake was simply the catalyst. Don't you think if I took my dislike for 'JT' - cringeworthy to see you call him that, by the way, do you have his poster on your wall? Almost as embarrassing as the clowns who call David Beckham 'Becks' - super seriously I'd have posted a long rant? Especially given you've now seen how I can react when truly irritated?
You didn't really think your comment through did you? Perhaps consider what you're saying before trying to put others down, you moronic troglodyte. You tried to be cutting but were as blunt as ****.
Looking at your username though, I think I remember clocking you as one of the 'thinks it's cool to be a dickhead' clique, so no surprise that you're getting involved.
Uh, whatever. This was two months ago. Timely response.
I don't even know what's happening. All I can tell is that you go on serious rants and tirades and get super offended from short responses.
And learn to multiquote and edit posts, Jesus.
Davetello
11-08-2013, 07:25 PM
Uh, whatever. This was two months ago. Timely response.
I don't even know what's happening. All I can tell is that you go on serious rants and tirades and get super offended from short responses.
And learn to multiquote and edit posts, Jesus.
But, but...didn't you say that I stalk the internet defending the weak and vulnerable like a pretentious Disney hero? Yet I haven't replied for two months but you've replied after two minutes. Who's obsessed with internet forums again?
I'm right though aren't I? You accused me of being obsessive in my hatred of Timberlake, yet all of my anger in this thread is directed at Stryker, and not Timberlake. Like I said, you tried to be funny and made a complete bollocks of it.
I don't go on 'serious rants'. I blow my top when someone tries to wind me up or put me down, which is a natural human response for those of us with dignity and self-respect. Stryker instigated this, not me, so why am I bearing the brunt of the criticism, exactly? Am I supposed to keep quiet simply because I'm not as notorious as he is on this site? **** that - he's a little prick who wouldn't say anything of the sort to me in person.
"And sorry for the multiple replies above. Despite the fact that I apparently live on internet forums I didn't realise there was a way to multi-quote until now. I could edit them all but I don't think some of you are worth the extra effort."
The post right above you, edited before you posted your reply. I could always link you to me multi-quoting on the few other forums I frequent for proof that I know how to do it - I was simply unfamiliar with this place's layout. Anyway, try reading all responses before replying. I realise it may be difficult for you as your little heart goes a-flutter when you see someone quoting you, but some patience wouldn't go amiss. If you can't manage that, at least try not to be a condescending bellpiece.
But, but...didn't you say that I stalk the internet defending the weak and vulnerable like a pretentious Disney hero?
What? No, I've never said anything like that. You're a crazy person.
Davetello
11-08-2013, 07:46 PM
What? No, I've never said anything like that. You're a crazy person.
I knew you were going to say that, and it actually was my mistake. It was the other guy who said it. It's 1.40 am here though, and I was irritated when reading both of your posts. You may as well have been the same person as you were both insulting me, hence I confused you as I was replying to numerous people. It's an easy mistake to make, especially when annoyed. I apologise for that anyway.
My point still stands, though. The likes of Stryker, Powder (and you probably) travel around this site putting people down. I can handle myself so it's no problem for me, but what about those who use this site because they may suffer from depression or low self-esteem? They probably join this site seeking solace and on their first log-in are treated like scum. It's all very well saying 'it's just the internet', but the people I refer to are the very people who are unable to have that perspective as they're already very fragile. Do the likes of you ever think about the consequences of your actions? Someone could be secretly suicidal and attacks on the internet could be the last straw. You'll probably say I'm being a drama queen but it happens more often than people realise.
Okay, I had a little dig at Timberlake, so what? He doesn't post on here so he's never going to see it. Stryker doesn't even care about him, he just saw a chance to initiate an argument by insulting someone and he took it. Small-minded guys like him thrive on that sort of negativity, and it's disappointing to see. The aggressive attitude some of you display is a deterrent to new posters.
Ignoring all of the tit-for-tat in this thread for a moment, why can't some of you simply be civil to decent people and treat them with respect? Is that asking too much? I've seen numerous newbies attacked on here for absolutely no reason, and it's always by the same people. Is there really any need for it?
I'm pretty sure Leo656 agrees with me because he's said pretty much the same sort of stuff in other threads. Obviously this behaviour isn't exclusive to this forum - it happens on most net forums. However, it shouldn't be acceptable, and repeated offences should result in a permanent ban. The relative anonymity afforded by internet forums is not a licence to behave like a tosser.
From JT playing Riddler to low self esteems and suicide.
Good night, everyone!
Davetello
11-08-2013, 07:52 PM
From JT playing Riddler to low self esteems and suicide.
Good night, everyone!
See, it's that sort of dismissive attitude that's exactly the problem. I make an important point and you simply mock like a 5 year old completely lacking in emotional intelligence. Could you actually think about the point I'm making? Can't you say "yeah, you're right, being a wanker to people could do some damage and we should probably think twice"?
Threads change. It's called escalation and tangential discussion - don't be so rigid and structural in your thinking. Besides, Stryker instigated it not me - something you still haven't acknowledged, probably because he's one of your little friends on here.
People like you are the problem with internet forums, not people like me.
Oh, and why do some of you insist on calling him 'JT'. You sound like five year old girls. You're as bad as the fanboys who call Cristiano Ronaldo 'CR7' and the aforementioned weirdos who refer to David Beckham as 'Becks'. Please stop it - you don't know him and he's not your friend.
CyberCubed
11-08-2013, 07:55 PM
I just hope Riddler isn't portrayed as a flaming gay stereotype again if he's in another movie. If Riddler is gay, at least write him respectably.
Everyone knows Jim Carrey's Riddler was homoerotic.
Davetello
11-08-2013, 07:58 PM
I just hope Riddler isn't portrayed as a flaming gay stereotype again if he's in another movie. If Riddler is gay, at least write him respectably.
Everyone knows Jim Carrey's Riddler was homoerotic.
Indeed. Although to be fair Riddler has always seemed a bit campy to me. He straddles (oo-er) that fine line.
CyberCubed
11-08-2013, 08:03 PM
Indeed. Although to be fair Riddler has always seemed a bit campy to me. He straddles (oo-er) that fine line.
Yeah I don't mind if Riddler is gay, I just hope they don't camp him up for laughs. Its almost offensive.
Krutch
11-08-2013, 08:05 PM
It's not that I like the Empire; I hate it! But there's nothing I can do about it right now.
Davetello
11-08-2013, 08:05 PM
Yeah I don't mind if Riddler is gay, I just hope they don't camp him up for laughs. Its almost offensive.
Don't worry, I'm sure the media and the entertainment business would never misrepresent all gay men as all being camper than a row of tents, simply for cheap lols. That would never happen...:lol:
Leo656
11-08-2013, 09:32 PM
It's not that I like the Empire; I hate it! But there's nothing I can do about it right now.
That's awesome. You're awesome.
If Riddler was gay in the comics, he'd have the grounds for at least a dozen civil suits against Batman, if he chose to press hate crime charges for all the times Batman punched him in the face. "Your honor, I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure Batman called me a homo, right before he punched me into unconsciousness. Frankly, I was too busy sh*tting myself to really listen to what he was saying, because Batman's pretty friggin' scary when he grabs you by the throat. But I'm almost positive he called me a 'queer' and told me I deserved it. I'm seeking $20 million in damages."
That'd be neat.
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