Official Episode Discussion: S2 #1 "The Mutation Situation"

[Machias Banshee]

Welcome back for Season Two!

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Last season was wild... we learned about the Kraang's primary goal of transforming Earth to their gooey hearts' desires. We saw Splinter's earth-shattering revelation that his daughter was alive - and a blood enemy.

Well, it looks like things are going to get very complicated for our band of brothers. It seems the Kraang and the Shredder have decided to band together against their common foe, and have continued with the next phase of the Kraang's plan: Transforming the flora and fauna of Earth to match that of Dimension X.... and no humans are safe.

How much time has passed since we last saw the Hamato Clan? What has happened to the Technodrome since it sank to the bottom of the ocean? And how large a scale is this operation?


Stay Tuned!!

[sluggedup226]

The full episode is available now!

[dkram230]

Hmm... I'm not seeing it on the XBL website. Most recent addition to Volume 3 is the "Ninjas in New York" 4 min recap from September. I'm at work though so can't check my actual 360.

[sluggedup226]

Hmm... I'm not seeing it on the XBL website. Most recent addition to Volume 3 is the "Ninjas in New York" 4 min recap from September. I'm at work though so can't check my actual 360.

It's on the nick app. As soon as you sign on your 360, you'll see it.

[NinjaMan]

It's on the nick app. As soon as you sign on your 360, you'll see it.

Wait is having an Xbox the only way to see it?? Can you give spoilers???

[Venom]

Opening this up early as the episode is available for viewing now in the US via the Nick app on Xbox Live!!

Gonna keep it light on plot points at the moment since many wont't see it til Saturday, but I will say there isn't any progression on the status on the Technodrome.

The opening sequence has been modified, showing more characters than Dogpound & Fishface in the Shredder montage.

What a fun episode, though! It seems the theme this season will be the Turtles having to locate a LOT of missing mutagen that is scattered all over the city, as well as the mutant fallout that will arise from the situation, on top of the other things they have to deal with.

Keep an ear out for Mike's "monster name" for Kirby, and those of us more versed in memes will get a good chuckle out of the "Dramatic Hamster" homage.

[NinjaMan]

Opening this up early as the episode is available for viewing now in the US via the Nick app on Xbox Live!!

Gonna keep it light on plot points at the moment since many wont't see it til Saturday, but I will say there isn't any progression on the status on the Technodrome.

The opening sequence has been modified, showing more characters than Dogpound & Fishface in the Shredder montage.

What a fun episode, though! It seems the theme this season will be the Turtles having to locate a LOT of missing mutagen that is scattered all over the city, as well as the mutant fallout that will arise from the situation, on top of the other things they have to deal with.

Keep an ear out for Mike's "monster name" for Kirby, and those of us more versed in memes will get a good chuckle out of the "Dramatic Hamster" homage.

Venom can you PM who they show in the opening and the story spoilers? I don't mind being spoiled:D Wish my PS3 had this app.

[FrostXxBitex]

Opening this up early as the episode is available for viewing now in the US via the Nick app on Xbox Live!!

Gonna keep it light on plot points at the moment since many wont't see it til Saturday, but I will say there isn't any progression on the status on the Technodrome.

The opening sequence has been modified, showing more characters than Dogpound & Fishface in the Shredder montage.

What a fun episode, though! It seems the theme this season will be the Turtles having to locate a LOT of missing mutagen that is scattered all over the city, as well as the mutant fallout that will arise from the situation, on top of the other things they have to deal with.

Keep an ear out for Mike's "monster name" for Kirby, and those of us more versed in memes will get a good chuckle out of the "Dramatic Hamster" homage.

Was Karai in the opening sequence??

[Donatello19]

Nick app? Xbox Live? Hm...very weird. Even though I have a 360 (which I NEVER use) I'm gonna just wait for Saturday.

[JTH]

Just saw the episode.

Man, it's definitely not a happy ending...:(

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

This has aired? What about Uk, is it over here yet?

[NinjaMan]

Just saw the episode.

Man, it's definitely not a happy ending...:(

Can you post spoilers? How is the intro different?

[kelligrafie]

Can you post spoilers? How is the intro different?

You can post spoilers but when you're creating a post you use the [S.POI.LER]post content here[/SPO.ILER] tags minus the full stops. If that's what you mean?

[FrostXxBitex]

You can post spoilers but when you're creating a post you use the [S.POI.LER]post content here[/SPO.ILER] tags minus the full stops. If that's what you mean?

I think NinjaMan meant could the person who watched the episode post spoilers.

[NinjaMan]

You can post spoilers but when you're creating a post you use the [S.POI.LER]post content here[/SPO.ILER] tags minus the full stops. If that's what you mean?

I think NinjaMan meant could the person who watched the episode post spoilers.

Yup, or PM if they don't want to post them here. :D

[Cure]

Pretty good episode! Not great for an opener, but still fun and exciting. I guess I'll post the spoilers for those who care. So yeah, SPOILERS.

The intro shows various badguys besides Dogpound and Fishface now, like Newtralizer and Karai.

The turtles are still celebrating their victory over Shredder and the Kraang. Splinter tells them they're being overly cocky. Feels like he's yelled at them for that before, but whatever.

They receive a transmission from the orb and go chasing after the invisible ship. They fight the biotroid there and accidentally release a bunch of mutagen over the city. Kirby mutates into a bat.

Mikey tries to call the Kirby bat Wingnut but gets scolded for being insensitive.

April gets upset about her father mutating after they manage to trap him in a cage. Mikey, trying to cheer her up, says it's not her fault but theirs. He promises to fix everything. However, knowing that it's their fault, April gets angry and never wants to see their faces again.

It ends with Splinter telling them to find every canister in the city before awful things happen.

So there you go. Good episode.

[JTH]

I'm going to reveal as much as I remember so here it is. Don't glimpse if you wish to be surprised.

Episode starts probably a couple weeks after the Finale as the Turtles are on the surface partying, and reoccurring events that happened to show their awesomeness to each other. Donnie then tells the others they should go see April. April when they meet at her apartment says that her dad is having terrible nightmares about the Kraang abduction and has been keeping April from leaving at night in fear. The turtles swear that April and everyone will be safe being the Kraang & Shredder are gone, but it's revealed that Shredder has contacted the Kraang about receiving a shipment that will be arriving shortly.

(The only differences in the Title that I recall was the Shredder scene with Fishface & Dogpound now has a scrolling effect of numerous villains that include SpiderBytes, Snakeweed, The Rat King, Newtralizer, Karai, Kraang, Shredder and some others. Also in the Donatello part of theme, you now see Metalhead walking on screen while Donnie is doing his regular bit.)

Leo, Mikey, & Raph are then playing Ninja Dodgeball with the Kraang Communication Orb while Donnie is in his lab beginning the first steps of building Timothy's suit (So it does appear that Donnie will make the suit for him) After a harsh lecture from Splinter saying the Turtles have become lazy and cocky since the Kraang's defeat, the Kraang Orb starts going off signaling that the Kraang are back. Donnie learns that the Kraang are using a Stealth Ship to carry whatever they have for shipment and has designed a tracker (The Game Boy looking contraption) to find it. He tells April to take to the surface though she claims she would have no clue how to use it, then they ask if her dad would which leads to April and her on the roof while the Turtles attempt to break into the ship. During the fight in the ship with the blue Gorilla Kraang they discover that the shipment is hundreds of canisters of mutagen and after a critical error opening a cargo hatch in the ship, all the mutagen canisters fall out of the ship and into the city.

One canister looks like it's about to hit April, but her dad shields her from it causing him to mutate after Kirby falls from the roof, bats fly all around him and trigger him to mutate into a bat. After the Turtles escape the ship they see the mutant bat staring at April and begin to attack, but April tells them to stop, during the distraction, Kirby freaks and grabs April and flies off.

Back in the sewer, the Turtles from come up with a plan and after Mikey wonders what silly sucker would be used as bait, the Turtles put Mikey in a ridiculous fly looking costume. (Mikey calls himself "TurFlytle") The Turtles go out to find Kirby while April is trapped on a ledge on a tall building. Raph and Leo use Mikey to attract Kirby (Mikey does call him "Wingnut", which Donnie threatens Mikey to not give April's dad a monster name) After Donnie is knocked out of the sky, he finds April and gets her off the ledge while the others are barely able to get Kirby to the warehouse and trap him in a cage just as April arrives.

April asks the Turtles what they can do for her dad and she says that everything is her fault for lying to her dad. But Mikey goes to her and says that it wasn't her, that it was their fault for spilling the mutagen over the city. April though then is taken aback and confronts the Turtles for the mutagen spill and after a bitter exchange, Kirby breaks out of the cage he is trapped in and goes back on the attack, after Donnie strikes Kirby to protect April, Kirby flies off and escapes and April is now furious at the Turtles for her dad now gone. Donnie begins to say something and reach out to her, but April shuts him up and tells him to not touch her and that she never wants to see the Turtles again and runs off. Donnie begins to run after her, but Raph stops him and says it won't do any good and to just let her go, crushing Donnie.

After learning of the failure of the Kraang, Shredder decides to cut ties with the Kraang and decides to find his own army to assist in his vendetta.

The episode ends with the Turtles back in the lair with Splinter telling them to not dwell on the past, but rather on how to fix the future, and the episode ends with a squirrel running up to a broken mutagen canister and licking and his eyes get all glowy in "Dramatic Chipmunk" style, ending the episode.

[NinjaMan]

So maybe Mutagen is looking for April to help Donnie get over being depressed which is why we seen him chasing her?

Wow thanks, sounds like a winner. Can't wait to see it.

[snake]

This episode is going to be great. Sadly, I'm going to miss it (NYCC) so hopefully it's on iTunes the day after.

[Donatello19]

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Well, until I see it that is...

[Overlordofnobodies]

Well if ever one is telling the true and I dont see why any one will lie. I think I'm going to cry at the end.

I hope April does not stay mad with the boys for to long. As I will really hate it if she is gone for most of the season do to hating them.

[NinjaPug]

I wonder if this means they scrapped their plans for Wingnut. My guess is probably.

[Colonel Schrader]

any way for non xbox ppl to see it?

[NinjaMan]

any way for non xbox ppl to see it?

At this point no :(

[tmnt transformer]

Man, I got so close to getting to see it on the xbox..... and I can't see it on saturday....:tcry::tcry::tcry::tcry:

[Cure]

I wonder if this means they scrapped their plans for Wingnut. My guess is probably.

That doesn't make sense. This was meant to be it since the beginning.

[Desslok]

..those of us more versed in memes will get a good chuckle out of the "Dramatic Hamster" homage.

Oh I can't wait! Still one of my favorite things in the whole world:

https://sciencefieldnotebooks.wikispaces.com/file/view/Dramatic-Prairie-Dog.gif/302435062/Dramatic-Prairie-Dog.gif
"TURTLES?!!!!"

[CyberCubed]

That doesn't make sense. This was meant to be it since the beginning.

If they already name-dropped the name for a different character, chances are Wingnut isn't going to show up. Remember he only had character sketches, its entirely possibly they scraped the idea to bring the character in after they decided to change Kirby into a bat.

[Danakin]

Not sure if anyone else caught it but Casey was also added to the intro, right before the Turtles climb to the rooftop at the end. He looks pretty bad ass.

[JH24]

Wow, I couldn't resist glancing over the spoilers and my eye caught what happened at the end. I didn't expect the story to go that way. It seems it will be a great opening and set up episode for this season.

[Zulithe]

avoiding spoilers... but wanting to see the ep. I have no xbox (nor do I want one), but I checked the Nick app on Windows 8 and it's not on there :(

Guess there is no other way to watch it currently?

[NinjaMan]

Is it possible if someone could get screen grabs of Casey in the intro and the villains that were added?

[VaughnMichael]

I wonder if this means they scrapped their plans for Wingnut. My guess is probably.
My guess is no and that they will meet him in dimension x when they find Leatherhead and he will tell them his name and Mikey will be like seeeee guyyss!!:lol:
If they already name-dropped the name for a different character, chances are Wingnut isn't going to show up. Remember he only had character sketches, its entirely possibly they scraped the idea to bring the character in after they decided to change Kirby into a bat.
It's not like they can't have 2 Bat characters.
And Wingnut has been an alien in every other version of the TMNT so what's not to say he wont be this time around.

[Timmetry]

I can see it happening like you say, with Wingnut telling them his name and Mikey saying "see", but I can also see him telling them his name is, for example, Smith, and Mikey saying, "I'm gonna call you Wingnut."

[victory_angel]

So maybe Mutagen is looking for April to help Donnie get over being depressed which is why we seen him chasing her?

Wow thanks, sounds like a winner. Can't wait to see it.

Maybe Mutagen man wants to find April so he can make her pay for breaking Donnie's heart.

[TigerClaw]

I know that Michelangelo
would name the Kirby Bat... Wingnut
Donatello being totally against it.

[snake]

Wingnut's going to show up. Trust me.

[Donatello19]

Is Casey in this episode? Mutagen Man? No spoilers please, just a yes or no.

[JTH]

Is Casey in this episode? Mutagen Man? No spoilers please, just a yes or no.
Casey - No
Timothy - For a bit, but it's not his official introduction

[Technogeek29]

It's an ok episode not a very strong start but then again I said the same for Rise of the Turtles so that might change. Did Mikey act strangely like his 2k3 counterpart to anyone? Unnecessary taunting, Boasting constantly of his skills (in his defense so was everyone else)

[NinjaMan]

I love that intro, Casey looks creepy and awesome at the same time. Can someone screencap Casey from the intro? Metalhead moving on his own now? Is he sentient? That mutation scene was pretty awesome. Wow poor Mr. O'Neil, dude can't catch a break. Now Shredder wants to expand his army, guess that means Tiger Claw. That ending!!

[oldmanwinters]

That last scene with the squirrel...

They just...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfh4Mhp-a6U

Oh MAN.

EDIT:
Sorry, didn't see you guys had already caught the reference early!
Oh I can't wait! Still one of my favorite things in the whole world:

https://sciencefieldnotebooks.wikispaces.com/file/view/Dramatic-Prairie-Dog.gif/302435062/Dramatic-Prairie-Dog.gif
"TURTLES?!!!!"

[Donatello19]

Great episode! Would've been nice to have a two parter, but still. About time April's showing some emotion...I wonder how long she'll stay mad at the guys. Maybe that's how she gets involved with Casey! This season is gonna be a lot of fun :D The next episode doesn't look all that interesting though, I have to say.

[turtletoons81]

great episode at times it was kinda quick but overall a good start for season 2,also my heart was racing a bit when april was pissed at the guy's for mutating his dad really emotional scene also i liked the whole fight with the bio-kraang (forgot it's name calling it bio-kraang for now) was awesome also did leo stabbed him if he did then dang.

[pannoni1]

It wasn't just the end of the acts that were scary; the Halloween-themed promos that followed 'em kept the scare factor going. Easily the darkest episode of the series so far, not just due to all the Mutagen being released and Kirby, but also April at the end of the episode losing her loyalty to the Turtles; something that has never happened before when an episode/issue ends. This is setting up to be the "stop and control the mutants" season that makes arcs like H.A.V.O.C. seem lighthearted in comparison, with Shredder/the Foot still a threat in addition. Add this to the "bad guys win" episodes. Despite that, there was still room for some comic relief, such as Michelagelo's "Turflytle" costume complete with his favorite things he enjoys along with the "Buzz buzz" joke, and Donatello's rocket he constructed seemed well animated when you can dream about how far it would launch when it just ends up on Kraang's ship. It seems like that the Kraang secretly abandoned the Technodrome and made a new ship which increases the speculation about what happened between seasons. Nice to see Mutagen Man and Metalhead as well! Nice way to kick off Season 2 Nick!

Overall: 9/10

[LH]

Awesome start to the season! a lot of fast paced action and suspense! I love how Kirby's mutation was done with the slow-motion morphing shot. Even though he is wild, it was cool to see that he recognized April. Poor April... I guess she'll have to stay with her aunt again...

I loved the new additions to the intro, including Casey on the rooftop, Karai's reflection, and even Newtralizer! :tgrin:

So it turns out the ape kraang AKA Biotroid is indeed that new figure we will be getting.

Wingnut reference = AWESOME!!!

I loved the Mutagen Tracker, especially the Gameboy chime it makes when you turn it on. :tlol:

I'm really hyped for the rest of this season, can't wait to see what happens with that mutant squirrel!

[Gin Rummy]

Great episode. I enjoyed the fact that it did not waste any time. & I really freaked out when Mike called Kirby Wingnut.

[kelligrafie]

Due to the time difference, I've been waiting for a few hours to see what everyone stateside thought of the episode. I've yet to actually watch and may not do so for a few days but the spoilers are intense.

[raph27]

I really liked it. It was kind of sad with April getting mad at the Turtles. I wonder if that'll have anything to do with Casey?

[NinjaMan]

Awesome start to the season! a lot of fast paced action and suspense! I love how Kirby's mutation was done with the slow-motion morphing shot. Even though he is wild, it was cool to see that he recognized April. Poor April... I guess she'll have to stay with her aunt again...

I loved the new additions to the intro, including Casey on the rooftop, Karai's reflection, and even Newtralizer! :tgrin:

So it turns out the ape kraang AKA Biotroid is indeed that new figure we will be getting.

Wingnut reference = AWESOME!!!

I loved the Mutagen Tracker, especially the Gameboy chime it makes when you turn it on. :tlol:

I'm really hyped for the rest of this season, can't wait to see what happens with that mutant squirrel!

Yeah I'm looking forward to the mutant squirrel next week! Once again this show doesn't disappoint.

[Electric]

Awesome!

The new intro is great

Loved the teaser of mutagen man.

The fight scene with the kraang was incredible (even Donnie again using his naginata for something other than fighting.

Kirby's mutation was an amazing scene, and to top it off april finally looked trained in using her tessen.

The ending with april getting mad is awesome, and i like how they left it unresolved. I imagine she will be mad at them for awhile, and during that she will meet casey. I also believe mutagen man will attack april because hes trying to help donnie (theres an image somewhere showing mutagen man holding up a picture of april and donnie)

Everything was very dramatic in this episode and its a great way to start off this season

[Machias Banshee]

Well, I guess it wasn't an hour like it was showing on the guide listing... what's episode 2 gonna be? The Squirrel ep is show as ep 3...

There was an ungodly amount of commercials in this premiere - I know it's a kids channel, but most of the first ten minutes were the boys being all cocky and up on themselves... :ohwell:

Poor Kirby... he's the second decent human that's been ruined by the ooze. I'm sure April will be back and friends with them in a couple of episodes.

[blindturtle02]

I really enjoyed the first episode of season 2. It felt more like a prologue to me. You get the sense that the writers were thinking Nick might air the next episode on the same day with that slight cliffhanger at the end involving the squirrelinoid. I think that's the only thing that bugged me about this first episode. I wanted another one.

I liked the fact that the turtles goofed up in this one. They are teens after all, and they've been on this month long pyric victory high. Naturally they're gonna get a little lazy and arrogant. I liked April's reaction at the end of the episode. Sets things up for Casey's debut, I think.

And yes, poor Kirby! Of course we all probably had that bit spoiled for us due to figure info leaks, but it was still pretty horrific. Nice to see Tim featured again if only for a few seconds. And did anyone else catch that one brief scene of a container being nabbed by-- well I wasn't sure who it was. My fiancé didn't get a good enough look. I wanna say it wasn't too long after Kirby's mutation.

This is shaping up to be a great season. I feel that the episode was a pretty strong start. The writers don't want to reveal all the good stuff right away and I don't mind waiting. Nice to see more involvement with the mutagen. It interests the scifi nut in me. I could have done with a bit more Shredder screen time though.

[LH]

And did anyone else catch that one brief scene of a container being nabbed by-- well I wasn't sure who it was. My fiancé didn't get a good enough look. I wanna say it wasn't too long after Kirby's mutation.

It was Donatello. He grabbed one half of the mutagen canister that mutated Kirby.

[JTH]

Seeing it on TV now, the CG looks WAY more fluid compared to the early Season 1 episodes.

Nice to see them be able to open up on the budget for the show.

[Guitar_Raph]

Mikey as another superhero? Awesome! I gotta get caps of that! But it doesn't beat Turtle Titan.

When does Josh Peck makes his debut?

[NinjaMan]

Mikey as another superhero? Awesome! I gotta get caps of that! But it doesn't beat Turtle Titan.

When does Josh Peck makes his debut?

Can you get caps of Casey from the intro? And the villain montage?

[blindturtle02]

Well, I guess it wasn't an hour like it was showing on the guide listing... what's episode 2 gonna be? The Squirrel ep is show as ep 3...

There was an ungodly amount of commercials in this premiere - I know it's a kids channel, but most of the first ten minutes were the boys being all cocky and up on themselves... :ohwell:

Poor Kirby... he's the second decent human that's been ruined by the ooze. I'm sure April will be back and friends with them in a couple of episodes.
Oh, so the squirrel ep isn't next Saturday then? Most TV guide sites already have that one scheduled for next weekend but I guess they'll switch it around. I just hope it's in chronological order since the last scene we saw in this one involved the squirrel. Yeah, entirely too many commercials between acts 1 and 2 in my neck of the woods at least. I swear it was like 4 mins long! Or that could have had something to do with my eagerness to get on with the show.

[Luigiperps]

Am I the only one who noticed the other change in the theme song? Metal head is wobbling around when Don works on stuff.

[NinjaMan]

Am I the only one who noticed the other change in the theme song? Metal head is wobbling around when Don works on stuff.

I saw that too. He must be sentient, he was moving throughout the episode.

[Kevin G]

My favorite scene hands down in this episode was Kurby's mutation. It reminded me how awesome Snake's mutation was in season one. I really hope someone uploads that scene (not the full episode of course due to copyright). Very excited to see how Baxter's mutation is going to look.

Not to sound like a stick in the mud, but I found it to be a little queer that bats suddenly appeared in New York hanging under air conditioners. Being a native New Yorker that's very rare. Also, maybe it was a quick shot but I didn't see Kirby touch a bat so how did that mutation work ? Aren't you suppose to touch whatever living thing is near you (while covered in mutagen) to be mutated into that thing ?

I really felt bad for Kirby, but for some odd reason when reading the speculations for season two and someone (I forgot the poster's name my apologizes) said that the mutagen was going to fall on April and then Kirby pushed her out of the way to save and he get's mutated, it didn't make me feel that much upset as opposed to when Timothy got mutated. I know he's a cartoon character and at the same time I don't want to sound heartless, but I guess feeling strongly that might happen to him didn't bother as much.

In a way I am happy April is mad at the Turtles. I know how superheros are suppose to have flaws, but I really like how the Turtles flaws stand out more in this incarnation. Plus, it shows that she is not taking her father's mutation very lightly. Aside from Donatello who was compassionate about Timothy mutation. But I guess we will have to see Ralph's reaction to Spike/Slash.

Also I thought this was suppose to be an hour and that the 1987 Turtles was suppose to appear ?


Overall this was very, very good episode. I am looking forward to the next one with the mutated squirrels.

I wish Ciro read these comments on here because as a true horror fan, I love all the nods and homages he is making to classic horror films and incorporating them into the show. This makes me appreciate the show even more aside the fact that it's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles :)

[Megchan]

Does anyone think Kirby is empathic, now that he's mutated? He seemed to play off April's anger at the end.

[Xav]

Add this to the "bad guys win" episodes.It wasn't so much a "bad guys win" episode, Shredder didn't get his Mutagen. It was more of a "good guys screw up" episode.

[JTH]

It's also pretty safe to assume that people on here that didn't approve of April's lack of character development in Season 1 will approve of this ending.

This will allow the show to build April's character away from the turtles now.

[Kevin G]

Does anyone think Kirby is empathic, now that he's mutated? He seemed to play off April's anger at the end.

I would think so. He gave her "puppy dog eyes" (?) when she yelled at him to get her more food. Even though she was did that to buy herself time.

[NinjaMan]

Here's my question, say Donnie finds a way to cure Kirby, do you think Splinter will want a cure or is he so used to his new life now?

[JTH]

Here's my question, say Donnie finds a way to cure Kirby, do you think Splinter will want a cure or is he so used to his new life now?
I would seriously doubt it. Considering Splinter's moral in this episode is to not dwell on the past. Plus it seems in his mind that he as gained more in his life as a rat than he did as a human.

[n-zero]

Here's my question, say Donnie finds a way to cure Kirby, do you think Splinter will want a cure or is he so used to his new life now?

There could be a time limit on the cure. Kirby's mutation is still fresh, whereas Splinter's has stabilized.

Or the "cure" could have unintended effects- perhaps fixing Kirby's mind, but bringing him all the way to a traditional "Wingnut" look instead of turning him human.

[NinjaMan]

I would seriously doubt it. Considering Splinter's moral in this episode is to not dwell on the past. Plus it seems in his mind that he as gained more in his life as a rat than he did as a human.

There could be a time limit on the cure. Kirby's mutation is still fresh, whereas Splinter's has stabilized.

Or the "cure" could have unintended effects- perhaps fixing Kirby's mind, but bringing him all the way to a traditional "Wingnut" look instead of turning him human.

You guys bring up very good points.

[Shark_Blade]

One word: Mikey.

Why were you so stupid in this premiere? :mad: I thought he would've matured a bit but I felt:

- his jokes were off and unfunny

- his non-common sense/no sensitive side on what happened to April's dad being mutated into a bat. I thought he's the most compassionate one among his brothers? When they caught Kirby in a cage in the warehouse, Mikey practically excitedly exclaimed loudly: "We did it, Don. We caught the Kirby Bat!" whilst gesturing like a grotesque monster. What is so amusing about catching April's dad Mikey? I felt it's so offensive to be joyfully partying when you entrapped your friend's own father.

- him blurting out about them dropping the mutagen all over the city. This one got me: he's so casually saying "Don't worry, don't worry, we'll get it all back" to April. As if the situation is like spilled milk or ice cream and we can all get it back. Like it's no big deal. Like April's dad turned into a bat is like not a serious issue at ALL. What the hell? It's not like they can change him back (atm). Didn't he think about April's feelings? Again, where's your common sense? Is your brain dead Mikey?

I mean.. is my fave turtle has gone beyond retarded and unlikeable now? I blame the horrible writers. -_-

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Other than that, the cgi is amazing and a lot of details and improvements can be seen. It seemed a bit rushed here and there (plus that Mikey problem I mentioned above) but overall, well done.

And I like that April and the boys' relationship has a friction, builds character. The way she shouted at the boys, damn.

[kelligrafie]

Actually, maybe it's just me but I think owning up to something and then saying, don't worry, we'll do our best to straighten things out, seems to be more mature than acting like you had nothing to do with it...

The way it's been written would point to kids that lying is the way out of a difficult situation, which it isn't.

Eventually April (or ones parents for that matter) would discover the truth and be more disappointed and angry.

[Shark_Blade]

Yes he's not lying (which is good) but Mikey has no empathy at ALL in that scene. Like the consequence of Kirby being mutated means nothing much to him. He said all that whilst smiling widely and happily by the way, all chilling-nothing-much-is-happening, which just infuriates me.

Look at these, makes me wanna punch him:

http://i.imgur.com/kQMTztD.png
http://i.imgur.com/FNpTGvK.png
http://i.imgur.com/ebog5dM.png

[Ninjinister]

It's also pretty safe to assume that people on here that didn't approve of April's lack of character development in Season 1 will approve of this ending.

This will allow the show to build April's character away from the turtles now.

I only felt she lacked development in her first few episodes. After a while they obviously made strides toward giving her a personality.

[JTH]

Yes he's not lying (which is good) but Mikey's tone severely lack empathy in that scene. Like the consequence of Kirby being mutated means nothing much to him. He said all that whilst smiling widely by the way, all chilling-nothing-much-is-happening, which just infuriates me.
That was the whole point of the story. Being too cocky and confident that everything will be alright. But it's not alright.

Splinter confronting them saying that were too cocky and confident in beginning sets up that scene at the end.

They just came off stopping an alien invasion and saving the world. Mikey of course would think this is a walk in the park, being cocky and confident. But the lesson learned is that not all people respond the same to terrible situations by just being confident.

[CowabungaMikey]

DAT EP!

It was awesome. Poor Donnie, poor April....

AND THAT SQUIRREL FGFBDVGSDF


9/10

[Storm Eagle]

Great episode. I enjoyed the fact that it did not waste any time. & I really freaked out when Mike called Kirby Wingnut.

When Mike called him Wingnut, I was thinking "really?", and then Donatello got on his case about giving April's father a monster name. Rather uncanny.

[BabyTurtles]

it was awesome!!! :D

Mikey's lack of sympathy really grated me hard though. that's SO UNLIKE MIKEY!!!!

He's my favorite turtle....they better not keep screwing him up.

[Raph's Girl]

Good ep! Yeah when Mikey called him Wingnut I was like "Ok so will he now get a mutated mosquito friend?"

And Mikey's costume reminded me of a Tick character... :P

Incidentally... the dramatic creature (real one) is a Prairie Dog.

[victory_angel]

Here's my question, say Donnie finds a way to cure Kirby, do you think Splinter will want a cure or is he so used to his new life now?

We'll if Donnie is able to some how find a way to restore someone who has been mutated back to being human. I would honestly believe Donnie would have offered the cure to Splinter, after all he's heard Splinter morn the lost off humanity often enough. And I while I highly doubt Splinter would take the cure because he's grown to accept who he has become. I would believe that he'd be touched that one of his sons would consider doing that for him.


T.T for both April and for Donnie.

I'm glad Mikey decided to do the honest thing and admit that her dad got mutated because they screwed up. And it was better April heard it from them right then rather then finding out later. Still he didn't need to sound like he was proud of the fact they mutated her father.

[Karai Samurai]

Whoa, that was a great opener. I have a feeling that with both Timothy and Mr. O'Neil mutated, Donnie may create an anti-mutagen. I really don't want Mr. O'Neil to remain a bat forever. Oh, and I loved April's reaction to the situation. Very realistic. I want to see how long her dislike of the turtles lasts.

Is it just me, or does Donnie have the most complex personality of the turtles? In this episode, the other ones remained in their good guy/angry/idiot archetypes. Only Donnie really showed any emotion or personality.



Mikey's lack of sympathy really grated me hard though. that's SO UNLIKE MIKEY!!!!


Oh, Mikey. When Timothy was mutated he acted the same way too which seems out of character. (Wasn't he tapping on Tim's container this episode, too?) I love Mikey, but I sincerely hope that we'll see the sympathetic side he showed to Leatherhead.

[MrTMNT2012]

Fantastic Season Premiere! :)

Everything stepped up from last Season and it seems we are going to explore new and interesting dynamics within the show. Only problem I had is that they regressed Mike's character from a kind, wide-eyed goof that still knows when and what to throw down, to a complete inconsiderate idiot! There were also some pacing issues but overall, I'm so happy with the direction it's going in and I can't wait to see the rest of the episodes (I feel like a kid again) :D!

Few points:

-- Turtles VS. Biodroid was flippin AWESOME! Animation has really stepped up.
-- Loved the lesson of the episode: Not dwelling on the past, focusing on the future.
-- April's actions were completely justified and allowed for some much needed Drama between the Turtles and her.

Hats off to Brandon Auman - I now completely trust in his writing skills cause he just developed one of the most well-balanced and tightly woven Season Premieres I've seen in a long time. He turned from one of my least favourite writers, to one of my favourites!

Great set-up, can't wait for more (and the new Nick Turtles Game :)) -- 8.8/10 for "The Mutation Situation"

[BabyTurtles]

Whoa, that was a great opener. I have a feeling that with both Timothy and Mr. O'Neil mutated, Donnie may create an anti-mutagen. I really don't want Mr. O'Neil to remain a bat forever. Oh, and I loved April's reaction to the situation. Very realistic. I want to see how long her dislike of the turtles lasts.

Is it just me, or does Donnie have the most complex personality of the turtles? In this episode, the other ones remained in their good guy/angry/idiot archetypes. Only Donnie really showed any emotion or personality.



Oh, Mikey. When Timothy was mutated he acted the same way too which seems out of character. (Wasn't he tapping on Tim's container this episode, too?) I love Mikey, but I sincerely hope that we'll see the sympathetic side he showed to Leatherhead.

and that's ticking me off!! why is Donnie hogging all the development!!! UGGHHH :x

They better not keep doing this with Mikey........

but other than that nice episode :D

[FoxZerro]

April being away from the turtles will be a great way to grow her character. The only issue I'll have is if she is how Casey is introduced to the group.

I'm hoping for a Semi-Turtles 2 vibe where Raph befriends Casey Jones and then he asks him if he would mind looking out for a friend of there's. That way we get that iconic Raph meets Casey moment and it could also play in Donatello being against the idea, since he sees Casey as a possible threat to his future with April.

I know its a long shot, but I think it would be a cool way for the story to go. Plus if you introduce and foster the Casey friendship with Raph it would be a good way to lighten up his character a bit while simultaneously giving him the crazy one who matches his enthusiasm for justice

[ZariusTwo]

Oh how nice...more angst, and with the Turtles greatest ally no less. I know the situation with her dad is a bit crazy, but to divorce herself from the guys who'd recently saved the world and her life several times is completly out-of-character and seemingly done entirely to more readily pair her with a bad influence in Casey, I don't know how she'll be "torn" between him and Don if she doesnt want anything to do with Don.

I don't know, it comes off more as a shock value twist. "Oh look, April hates the guys, we're SOOOO different from any other version ever", yeah, I'm just turned off the show more and more with stunts like this.

[Shark_Blade]

Reading some blogs, I think we (or rather me) forgot that April blaming everything on the turtles was a bit unfair. They did try to stop that from happening.

http://sylviene.tumblr.com/post/63844911720/the-mutation-situation

That ending…

I feel like Donnie and April just broke up even if they weren’t really together… ;___;
Just ****ing great, now Casey comes around at the worst time.
*lies in a puddle of tears*

AND THAT FREAKING KIRBY BAT.

I LIKED Kirby God damnit. All this time I was hoping it wasn’t going to be true that he’d turn into that ugly ass bat… I feel like the turtles were too careless, as soon as Leo said the ship was full of mutagen they really should have been more careful in case you know, IT SPILLED ON EVERYTHING.

My only reconciliation is that at least Donnie tried to stop it, but it doesn’t sit right with me that they are the ones that kind of caused Kirby to be a mutant… Oh and April MOVE OUT THE ****ING WAY MAYBE?? It’s not all THEIR fault you bitch. Okay I had to get that out of my system.

I just hope April makes up with the turtles again soon… Especially Donnie since she directed her anger at him mostly, ow my feels… IT JUST WASN’T FAIR.

[JTH]

and that's ticking me off!! why is Donnie hogging all the development!!! UGGHHH :x

They better not keep doing this with Mikey........

but other than that nice episode :D
I think it works though, it makes the story more interesting IMO.

Now it's not just Donnie finding a cure just for the hell of finding a cure. To give Donnie personal stakes and vendettas to help close friends makes the story better going forward.

[Bauer536]

Hasn't Mikey always been inconsiderate now and then?

I don't understand. Did anyone really enjoy the episode, or are they just telling themselves they did to not think about the negatives?:tconfuse:

[Shark_Blade]

Donnie holds so many burden since the beginning....

He promised to rescue April's father (which they did at the end of Season 1).

He promised to train Timothy (which led him to having a responsibility of having a pupil).

He promised to cure Timothy back to human.

And now he promised to cure Kirby.


Donnie, why you do this to yourself? :tsad:

[raph27]

Oh, so the squirrel ep isn't next Saturday then? Most TV guide sites already have that one scheduled for next weekend but I guess they'll switch it around. I just hope it's in chronological order since the last scene we saw in this one involved the squirrel. Yeah, entirely too many commercials between acts 1 and 2 in my neck of the woods at least. I swear it was like 4 mins long! Or that could have had something to do with my eagerness to get on with the show.

There was a commercial that said next week is the Squirrelaniod ep.

[victory_angel]

Oh how nice...more angst, and with the Turtles greatest ally no less. I know the situation with her dad is a bit crazy, but to divorce herself from the guys who'd recently saved the world and her life several times is completly out-of-character and seemingly done entirely to more readily pair her with a bad influence in Casey

I didn't think it was out of character. I think she had every reason to feel upset that her father was mutated and the people who she trusted were the cause. And when your upset you don't entirely think straight.

It would have been more out of character if she shrugged her shoulders and said "Hey, it's all good. After all it was just an accident right?"

It mean she knew that with the mutagen being released that something had gone wrong on the ship. And I hope when she calms down and actually begins to really process all that happened she will come to accept that they hadn't meant for that to happen and find it in her heart to forgive them.

[Desslok]

April was just overcome with emotion. I mean she had been trying to get her father back for a year, and to have him suddenly ripped away again.. I can kind of understand her outburst. I'm sure she didn't mean what she said, she was just an exploding ball of emotion. I've felt the same way before.

[Storm Eagle]

April was just overcome with emotion. I mean she had been trying to get her father back for a year, and to have him suddenly ripped away again.. I can kind of understand her outburst. I'm sure she didn't mean what she said, she was just an exploding ball of emotion. I've felt the same way before.

Exactly. Even I'm mad for her. Not necessarily at the turtles, but just mad for her that she has to deal with her father getting mutated right after being reunited with him.

[victory_angel]

Donnie holds so many burden since the beginning....

He promised to rescue April's father (which they did at the end of Season 1).

He promised to train Timothy (which led him to having a responsibility of having a pupil).

He promised to cure Timothy back to human.

And now he promised to cure Kirby.


Donnie, why you do this to yourself? :tsad:

With Timothy, Donnie said he'd restore his humanity one day. Because it would take years, maybe life times to find a cure for the Mutation.

But when he tries to promise April he wouldn't rest until he was able to return Kirby back to his human self. April may as well have told him to shut up and not promise the impossible in order to make her feel better. In most cases once a mutation happens, there is nothing that can be done about it.

I mean yeah there has been some cases were Donnie has found a cure to restore humans who have been mutated. But the circumstances were different in that regard.

[ZariusTwo]

It would have been more out of character if she shrugged her shoulders and said "Hey, it's all good. After all it was just an accident right?

While I probably don't envision precisly that happening, her understanding it was an accident would have been the mature thing to do, and very much in synch with the Aprils we know and appreciate.

[blindturtle02]

April was just overcome with emotion. I mean she had been trying to get her father back for a year, and to have him suddenly ripped away again.. I can kind of understand her outburst. I'm sure she didn't mean what she said, she was just an exploding ball of emotion. I've felt the same way before.

I get it too. It's a very human thing to do when we're upset. Sometimes we tend to lash out at those closest to us during trying times. I have a feeling she'll deeply regret her harsh words later. I feel bad for poor Don though.

[Coola Yagami]

http://markandpaigerodriguez.blogspot.com/2013/10/nicktoons-tmmnt-episode-27-mutation.html My thoughts on the episode... although our main gripe was..

Speaking of which... one thing that bothered us was when Kirby flew off. They know the city is now littered with Mutagen canisters, but 'April's father comes first'. Actually both are just as urgent.... so Paige asked out loud 'why didn't they just split up?' Then in the following scene they're back in the lair stressing out. What the hell? This show seems to have a problem with the Turtles not taking these kinds of situations with the urgency they require. Sure, the scene was important since it led to Splinter giving them advice... but why didn't Leo go home to consult Splinter while the other three Turtles kept looking for the bat while picking up any Mutagen canisters they can find. Or hell, why didn't Don come up with 'bats eat bugs' sooner while they were still outside? There was no reason for the Turtles to just drop everything and go to the lair other than 'this episode is about Kirby, the NEXT episode will be about random mutants'.

[Bauer536]

Anyone getting the feeling that the turtles aren't that mature yet? I thought Nieli said that they'd be. I feel bamboozled.

[Coola Yagami]

Anyone getting the feeling that the turtles aren't that mature yet? I thought Nieli said that they'd be. I feel bamboozled.

People don't mature that fast. Besides, they kinda can't, since their more teenage immature attitude is what makes them different from all the other versions.

[Bauer536]

I'm now nervous how the rest of the season is going to play out. How long can we take the turtles making stupid reckless decisions, and how long can we accept them from leaving the enemy behind?

[Leofan26]

Remember when people complained how season one - four was too much Leo on the 4Kids series? Now I'm starting to feel that way about Donnie on this series, bum bum bum.

[Electric]

On Aprils little freak out at the turtles: I think she was justified, she just got her dad back, now he's gone, she's upset when she found out they were responsible. She wasn't upset at them when it first happened or when they caught him.

I'm just hoping that they resolve this before Casey, but I doubt that will happen

[NinjaMan]

I'm now nervous how the rest of the season is going to play out. How long can we take the turtles making stupid reckless decisions, and how long can we accept them from leaving the enemy behind?

You get way too nervous about everything. Relax dude.

[Bauer536]

You get way too nervous about everything. Relax dude.

I know I do. Let's just say there was once a showed called "Heroes." It was a great show, starting with the first season, but it got progressively bad later on. Mostly, this was due to the writers strike, but still. I don't want this to end the same way.

[blindturtle02]

People don't mature that fast. Besides, they kinda can't, since their more teenage immature attitude is what makes them different from all the other versions.

Maybe we'll see them growing as the series progresses. It's still early and I have a feeling this show is going to be around for a while. I like that the boys have flaws and tend to screw up once in a while. It's more realistic. They're just teens being teens sometimes, I guess.

[ZariusTwo]

People don't mature that fast. Besides, they kinda can't, since their more teenage immature attitude is what makes them different from all the other versions.

Jade Chan from JCA acts more mature than these obnoxious clowns, and she's far younger than them or April.

[Coola Yagami]

Jade Chan from JCA acts more mature than these obnoxious clowns, and she's far younger than them or April.

That's her particular character trait however, this is just a different show. Who knows if they will learn from their mistakes or not. Adults can do big screw ups too, ya know.

[TurtleTitan97]

Finally got to watch this episode. Other than some of Mikey's random lines, I thought this was a good episode. April saying she never wanted to see the Turtles again was a bit of a surprise.

Also-
-Love that they updated the intro! Could we get screencaps of those new scenes?
-Splinter's fear of cats has returned. I'll feel sorry for him when TigerClaw appears.
- I didn't really get a feeing of Mikey coming off as a jerk when he told April it was their fault for releasing the mutagen, I think he was actually trying to be sincere.
- LOL at the ending with the squirrel:tlol:
- Love the easter egg when Mikey wanted to call Kirby "Wingnut" and Donnie's all against it.

[Electric]

Remember when people complained how season one - four was too much Leo on the 4Kids series? Now I'm starting to feel that way about Donnie on this series, bum bum bum.

That's just due to the relationships he's built, April and Timothy. When Casey and slash come in we will guarantee some raph development, when leather head returns there will be Mikey, and karai episodes are bound to tie in with Leo. I still think it's too early to say

[VaughnMichael]

While I probably don't envision precisly that happening, her understanding it was an accident would have been the mature thing to do, and very much in synch with the Aprils we know and appreciate.
I know you're a huge 80's toon fan but did you forget all the times April got ticked at the guys in that show?

[Ninjinister]

While I probably don't envision precisly that happening, her understanding it was an accident would have been the mature thing to do, and very much in synch with the Aprils we know and appreciate.

Are you actually trying to out-ridiculous CyberCubed?

[MrTMNT2012]

Are you actually trying to out-ridiculous CyberCubed?

We know that'll never happen....

[Andrew NDB]

Saw it with my daughter. Not much of a season opener, really... the whole mutagen exchange that went awry aside (that is clearly going to have repercussions to come) it mostly felt like spinning wheels. And mutating April's dad, just because? Just to give us another mutant of the week? And that is quintesentially not Wingnut.

[Raph's Girl]

Here's screen shots of Casey from the new intro. First one is when they're going over his head, 2nd one is after Raph goes into the shadows. Casey's head moves just slightly between those moments.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Dierna/TMNT/CaseyIntro_zps30eb0419.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Dierna/TMNT/Caseyintro2_zpscbdbb371.jpg

[PApagreg]

Very Disappointing with the season opener

[ninja-zero]

I hate that ending!

Seems April will one day turn to Casey Jones.
- Casey protects April from the mutants
- Casey protects April from the turtles despite her rage on them
- And Donnie will have to beg for April's forgiveness through Casey.

Mikey.... YOU AND YOUR BIG ****IN' MOUTH!

[Karai Samurai]

That's just due to the relationships he's built, April and Timothy. When Casey and slash come in we will guarantee some raph development, when leather head returns there will be Mikey, and karai episodes are bound to tie in with Leo. I still think it's too early to say

Good point. I feel like sometimes the writers have a preference for Donnie, but they do share the character development at times.

[JTH]

Anyone getting the feeling that the turtles aren't that mature yet? I thought Nieli said that they'd be. I feel bamboozled.
People don't mature fast.

Example: This Forum...:trazz:

[Andrew NDB]

What's with the inconsistent mutagen, too? We have guys turning into mutant plants and snakes and they still keep their minds, but if you touch a bat that's different?

[Coola Yagami]

What's with the inconsistent mutagen, too? We have guys turning into mutant plants and snakes and they still keep their minds, but if you touch a bat that's different?

Exactly, there's no reason Kirby shouldn't be able to talk and reason. This is Mutagen that Shredder requested. He wouldn't want random monsters, he'd want obedient soldiers like Dogpound and Fishface.

[MrTMNT2012]

"What's with the inconsistent Mutagen?" REALLY? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

It's literally called 'Mutagen'. Do you know what that even is? It mutates organisms. Mutations are some of the most inconsistent scientific reactions - they pretty much do whatever the hell they want!

[FoxZerro]

Can we take a moment from all the hating on the episode and talk about how beautifully done the raining mutagen containers were. That was seriously just such an amazing visual... Even if based on the speed and trajectory of the stealth ship it would. Have never happened as beautifully.

Still since it felt the whole episode was about those canisters falling and the start of the mutagen situation story arc. I think they at least gave us some pay off in that moment.

[Keroscene]

Who needs Mikey to be sensitive when we've got the whole damn fandom being so oversensitive? Pfft. His reactions were funny and I don't see the problem with them at all. Kirby's still a bat, regardless of whether people dance around the issue or not.

It was a really good episode. I'm glad they've set up a reason for new mutants to keep showing up throughout the season and April's meltdown at the end was both shocking and completely understandable at the same time.

[BabyTurtles]

so the new writer wrote the episode, Brandon Auman? :3

he did a good job......but he needs to work out his Mikey >:U

I'll be watching you....
http://images.wikia.com/legendofkorra/images/b/bb/Bei-fong-watching.gif

[Coola Yagami]

"What's with the inconsistent Mutagen?" REALLY? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

It's literally called 'Mutagen'. Do you know what that even is? It mutates organisms. Mutations are some of the most inconsistent scientific reactions - they pretty much do whatever the hell they want!

So why can the turtles talk and have enough focus to be able to be trained in martial arts? Why aren't they random growling monsters covered in spikes and such?

[BabyTurtles]

So why can the turtles talk and have enough focus to be able to be trained in martial arts? Why aren't they random growling monsters covered in spikes and such?

because the mutagen is random :3

Pigeon Pete was able to talk and think and be calm :D

so the Turtles and Splinter just got extremely lucky XD

so did Bradford and Xever

not so much Timothy.....and Kirby.

[NinjaMan]

Minus his temper Leatherhead is lucky.

[Coola Yagami]

Minus his temper Leatherhead is lucky.

That's interesting and I never thought of it until now, but Leatherhead walks the fine line between being a sentient talking mutant and being a mindless monster mutant.

[LH]

That's interesting and I never thought of it until now, but Leatherhead walks the fine line between being a sentient talking mutant and being a mindless monster mutant.

Leatherhead's fits of anger seem to be a result of the Kraang's efforts to try and control his mind. The way I see it, his mutation alone came with his intelligence and personality(like the turtles and splinter)... However, because the Kraang were trying to crack his mind during their experiments to use him as a living weapon("They could not break my spirit"), it's left his brain damaged. His mind is healing though... and he's getting better at controlling it.

[Slime State Alumni]

I thought the season premiere was great; it perfectly sets up the major story arc for this season along with other potential arcs (mutagen creating more mutant villains/allies, the turtles having to collect all of the lost mutagen, repairing their relationship with April, finding a cure for Kirby, Shredder leaving for Japan, the Foot's dynamic with the Kraang, the introduction to Casey Jones, etc). It's a perfect way to set things in motion, which is what a sophomore season opener should be like. I'm very excited how all of it plays out over the course of this season.

[Technogeek29]

"What's with the inconsistent Mutagen?" REALLY? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

It's literally called 'Mutagen'. Do you know what that even is? It mutates organisms. Mutations are some of the most inconsistent scientific reactions - they pretty much do whatever the hell they want!

Two average joe's can retain their sentience but a man with a PhD can't? OK....

[blindturtle02]

Actually, maybe it's just me but I think owning up to something and then saying, don't worry, we'll do our best to straighten things out, seems to be more mature than acting like you had nothing to do with it...

The way it's been written would point to kids that lying is the way out of a difficult situation, which it isn't.

Eventually April (or ones parents for that matter) would discover the truth and be more disappointed and angry.

I agree. My better half was thinking the same thing as well. Mikey was actually big enough to own up to their mistakes. I was expecting Don to be the one to up and tell her, so I think it was very mature of Mikey to tell the truth. She probably would have been even more upset had they waited longer to tell her. Besides, lying by omission is a very dangerous thing to do period. It is a Very poor foundation on which to build any lasting relationship. So kudos to Mikey.

[Ninjinister]

They need to introduce an actual Cottage Cheese Demon now.

[LH]

I agree. My better half was thinking the same thing as well. Mikey was actually big enough to own up to their mistakes. I was expecting Don to be the one to up and tell her, so I think it was very mature of Mikey to tell the truth. She probably would have been even more upset had they waited longer to tell her. Besides, lying by omission is a very dangerous thing to do period. It is a Very poor foundation on which to build any lasting relationship. So kudos to Mikey.

Yeah, Mikey's honesty is definitely one of his positive character traits. Remember when the Turtle's lost the power-cell and Leatherhead said he trusted they did all they could to protect it? Mikey was going to be honest with him had Raph not stopped him.

[blindturtle02]

Yeah there ya go, LH. That moment really stood out to me too. I'd forgotten about that on top of all the studying I've been doing. Great example.

[Slime State Alumni]

I agree. My better half was thinking the same thing as well. Mikey was actually big enough to own up to their mistakes. I was expecting Don to be the one to up and tell her, so I think it was very mature of Mikey to tell the truth. She probably would have been even more upset had they waited longer to tell her. Besides, lying by omission is a very dangerous thing to do period. It is a Very poor foundation on which to build any lasting relationship. So kudos to Mikey.

I don't think Mikey was being the bigger person in this case. I think the writers have consistently made a point that Mikey is the least mature/intelligent of the group. He told April the truth because he didn't know any better and thought nothing of it until he realized it was a mistake.

[FoxZerro]

Sitting here at work I realized this whole story arc could result in the ooze launching turtles action figure designs actually making an appearance in the show. You have the final episode of the arc see a huge outbreak of mutants rioting through out New York and Donatello designing the ooze launchers as a way to distribute his newly developed anti-mutagen (which he used to restore Tim) an contain the outbreak.

Heck I can even hear Donatello say now "the only problem is if we come into contact with even a drop of this stuff (gulp) it's back to the pet store."

I can also see having to use up the entire supply of the anti-mutagen to stop the outbreak as a way to explain away why Splinter is forced to stay mutated and it also act as an explanation for why Dogpound, Fishface, etc. are left mutated as well.

Not to mention the fact that the anti-mutagen is unable to be replicated because a significant ingredient was something Tim secreted as the Mutagen Man.

[blindturtle02]

They need to introduce an actual Cottage Cheese Demon now.

Well you never know. I'd buy the action figure. Although he'd have to come packaged with the evil clown from Mikey's dream about being a rodeo detective. Cheese demons really sound disturbing though lol. I'm beginning to wonder if Mikey's growing something down there in his room.

[drgon78]

I loved the episode especially the part with April being angry at the guys. I like the fight with the Biodroid thing as well.


Is it me or does April look better animated and has more facial range?

[Jester]

So...is Mikey just gonna spout random stuff now? Cottage Cheese Demon, Talking Cupcakes, Space Yeast on Jupiter? Come on now....

[BabyTurtles]

So...is Mikey just gonna spout random stuff now? Cottage Cheese Demon, Talking Cupcakes, Space Yeast on Jupiter? Come on now....

>:u I'm still blaming the new writer!! but we shall see~ hopefully NOT.

I also wonder how long April's gonna stay mad at them?? cause she's gonna let Mikey take care of her kitty.....so it can't be TOO long right? XD

[Coola Yagami]

>:u I'm still blaming the new writer!! but we shall see~ hopefully NOT.

I also wonder how long April's gonna stay mad at them?? cause she's gonna let Mikey take care of her kitty.....so it can't be TOO long right? XD

Won't him turning her kitty into ice cream piss her off even more? That's like... the last straw.

[Electric]

i dont know if its been mentioned yet, but on the title screen, the mutants shown are snakeweed, spiderbytes, rat king, newtralizer and dogpound and fish face. There isnt however the pigeon, monkey rockwell, the cockroach, or justin.

So we could assume none of them will be returning. or assume that those are just the ones that dont work for shredder, seeing how baxter isnt shown, since he doesnt work for shredder anymore. if thats the case, then that means spiderbytes and newtralizer would be working with shredder

[Coola Yagami]

i dont know if its been mentioned yet, but on the title screen, the mutants shown are snakeweed, spiderbytes, rat king, newtralizer and dogpound and fish face. There isnt however the pigeon, monkey rockwell, the cockroach, or justin.

So we could assume none of them will be returning. or assume that those are just the ones that dont work for shredder, seeing how baxter isnt shown, since he doesnt work for shredder anymore. if thats the case, then that means spiderbytes and newtralizer would be working with shredder

Pigeon Pete isn't a bad guy. Justin is a one time character. Or at least I hope. Rockwell is not a bad guy. You got me on Baxter though. I think it was a bad guy montage, not necessarily 'all who work for Shredder' montage.

[CyberCubed]

You know I really hope Baxter can talk after he becomes a fly like in the old show. I'd hate to see Baxter become another mindless beast like the rest of these mutants

[NinjaMan]

Pigeon Pete isn't a bad guy. Justin is a one time character. Or at least I hope. Rockwell is not a bad guy. You got me on Baxter though. I think it was a bad guy montage, not necessarily 'all who work for Shredder' montage.

That's what I was thinking.

[Raven]

Not a bad start, but not the best either. I kind of wish they would of mutated April's dad a little later, after all we did just get him back from the Kraang. Seems a little to early to start another "Oh no, Aprils dad is in another crisis" thing I guess.

But I was really into the plot twist of April being mad at the turtles, I'm excited to see where this season will go and how it will progress the characters. It's looking awesome and fun.

[CyberCubed]

I have a hard time believing the actual Wingnut is going to show up now. Seems that early sketch for Wingnut/Screwloose was probably scraped when they got the idea to turn Kirby into a bat instead, but had Mikey call him Wingnut as an easter egg.

Yes Wingnut/Screwloose are aliens, but I really can't see them having two bat creatures show up with the other one having the same name Mikey called Kirby.

In fact judging by the upcoming toy lineup, we won't be seeing any of the old Mutanimal characters in this show, at least not anytime soon.

[Kevin G]

i dont know if its been mentioned yet, but on the title screen, the mutants shown are snakeweed, spiderbytes, rat king, newtralizer and dogpound and fish face. There isnt however the pigeon, monkey rockwell, the cockroach, or justin.

So we could assume none of them will be returning. or assume that those are just the ones that dont work for shredder, seeing how baxter isnt shown, since he doesnt work for shredder anymore. if thats the case, then that means spiderbytes and newtralizer would be working with shredder

What prompt you to believe that Spiderbytes and Newtralizer would have/will be working with the Shredder ? Just because they are in the intro and Baxter works solo now ? That's really not a very good explanation. I don't think they want have every mutant villain on the show working with/for Shredderot this season be devoted to "Night Of The Rouges". I think they all can do damage on their own.

[Electric]

What prompt you to believe that Spiderbytes and Newtralizer will be working with the Shredder ? Just because they are in the intro and Baxter works solo now ? That's really not a very good explanation. I don't think they want have every mutant villain on the show working with/for Shredder. I think they all can do damage on their own.

thats exactly why i used the word "assume". i know nothing more than anyone else. this is just my assumption.

[Kevin G]

You know I really hope Baxter can talk after he becomes a fly like in the old show. I'd hate to see Baxter become another mindless beast like the rest of these mutants

Snakweed, Leatherhead, The Rat King and The Newtralizer didn't seem that mindless to me.

[Kevin G]

thats exactly why i used the word "assume". i know nothing more than anyone else. this is just my assumption.

My apologizes then ElectricN :)

[Electric]

Snakweed, Leatherhead, The Rat King and The Newtralizer didn't seem that mindless to me.

My apologizes then ElectricN :)

It's fine :) And since you brought that up, about those not being mindless, that just made me think that's probably why they're in the intro. Snake weed, rat king, newtralizer, and spider bytes were the only intelligible mutants from season 1, so that makes more sense

[Refractive Reflections]

One word: Mikey.

Why were you so stupid in this premiere? :mad: I thought he would've matured a bit but I felt:

- his jokes were off and unfunny

- his non-common sense/no sensitive side on what happened to April's dad being mutated into a bat. I thought he's the most compassionate one among his brothers? When they caught Kirby in a cage in the warehouse, Mikey practically excitedly exclaimed loudly: "We did it, Don. We caught the Kirby Bat!" whilst gesturing like a grotesque monster. What is so amusing about catching April's dad Mikey? I felt it's so offensive to be joyfully partying when you entrapped your friend's own father.

- him blurting out about them dropping the mutagen all over the city. This one got me: he's so casually saying "Don't worry, don't worry, we'll get it all back" to April. As if the situation is like spilled milk or ice cream and we can all get it back. Like it's no big deal. Like April's dad turned into a bat is like not a serious issue at ALL. What the hell? It's not like they can change him back (atm). Didn't he think about April's feelings? Again, where's your common sense? Is your brain dead Mikey?

I mean.. is my fave turtle has gone beyond retarded and unlikeable now? I blame the horrible writers. -_-


So...is Mikey just gonna spout random stuff now? Cottage Cheese Demon, Talking Cupcakes, Space Yeast on Jupiter? Come on now....

Well this episode just further supports my notion that Nick Mikey is dumb (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1120270&postcount=9).


Reading some blogs, I think we (or rather me) forgot that April blaming everything on the turtles was a bit unfair. They did try to stop that from happening.

Yeah, but a significant reason April got upset was because the Turtles were trying to conceal the truth from April, of what happened on that spaceship. And that the Turtles were partly responsible. Remember the other three kept signaling Mikey to be quiet?


People don't mature that fast. Besides, they kinda can't, since their more teenage immature attitude is what makes them different from all the other versions.

One would think that dealing with nearly lethal fights almost every 2-3 days would have matured them quickly, especially when Raph almost lost Leo in the season 1 finale. :lol: But whatever... :lol:


The gloating with the Turtles was somewhat understandable, but it became excessive in terms of filling 1/3 of the episode. It could have been an excellent opportunity to show some type of brother bonding outside of their fighting, but it was a perpetual gloat fest. I still think mutating Kirby (April's Dad) was over-the-top and an unnecessary writing device to wedge something in between April and the Turtles. Plus, the show still didn't fully explain why the Kraang kidnapped Kirby in the first place. Furthermore, it forcefully pushed aside the developing budding father-daughter relationship (that we hardly get explored in other TMNT versions). Okay... :ohwell:

Why is this series so focus on mutants now? I mean, yeah, I understand its a chance to reinvent a new TMNT series, but it seems like more of the excitement is around what new animal or thing can be mutated rather than the actual storytelling. As I stated before (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showpost.php?p=1166576&postcount=45), its odd that there's a trend of many things the Turtles get close to, seems to get mutated. If theses writers are not careful, some viewers are going to see the mutation trend as a shallow writing stunt to create drama.
I don't know...:ohwell: I wish these Turtles would actually start infiltrating crime rings and be more involved in human-oriented plots, or at least using some of the mutants from season 1 to add more depth to those mutant villains, rather than the audience expecting some new mutant coming up with each episode.

I did like April turning on the Turtles, and her anger was justifiable, but I just don't think it was effectively done as I would have liked it.

...Oh and a big ol' plot hole: What happened to that T-Rocket after it launched? I'm sure it crashed somewhere in the busy NYC streets, drawing even more unnecessary attention to them. :lol:

Overall this was more or less a neutral episode for me. I'm neither disappointed nor excited, its the standard Nick episode:
A new Donatello invention? Check
Unrequited love/crush between Donatello and April? Check
Leonardo heroically saving the day? Check, in landing onto Kirby and placing him in a cage
Mikey acting dumb and annoying as usual, with Raph yelling at him? Check
A new mutant? Check

Yeah, this episode pretty much fits the criteria for the standard episode. :lol: **shrug** Then again, who knows it could all, hopefully, lead up to something more suspenseful and dramatic later on in the season. :lol:

[Venom]

Oh, hey, I haven't seen this since I watched it Wednesday but did anyone notice if Shredder's silhouette is still present on the building at the end of the intro?

I still can't believe how many years I wasn't aware of it on the cover of #1!

[blindturtle02]

You know I really hope Baxter can talk after he becomes a fly like in the old show. I'd hate to see Baxter become another mindless beast like the rest of these mutants

I hope he'll be able to talk as well. And hoping future mutants will be more intelligent.

[Raph's Girl]

When Mike mentioned the talking cupcakes my only thought was "He must be an Adventure Time fan..." :P

As for a cottage cheese demon. Make it a female and be an ally for the turtles against Spider-Bytes... And her name will be Lil Miss Muffet. (Curds and Whey is cottage cheese) :P

[Coola Yagami]

When Mike mentioned the talking cupcakes my only thought was "He must be an Adventure Time fan..." :P

As for a cottage cheese demon. Make it a female and be an ally for the turtles against Spider-Bytes... And her name will be Lil Miss Muffet. (Curds and Whey is cottage cheese) :P

For some reason it made me think of DBZ Abridge's Muffin Button.

[blindturtle02]

So...is Mikey just gonna spout random stuff now? Cottage Cheese Demon, Talking Cupcakes, Space Yeast on Jupiter? Come on now....

So Kev, what did you think of him tapping Tim's container? Mischievous? I wasn't sure what to make of that at first. Becca thinks he probably didn't realize what he was doing since he seems like one of those guys who have to be fidgeting or tampering with something while solving a difficult problem. Like those guys who randomly click pens and all that.

[blindturtle02]

When Mike mentioned the talking cupcakes my only thought was "He must be an Adventure Time fan..." :P

As for a cottage cheese demon. Make it a female and be an ally for the turtles against Spider-Bytes... And her name will be Lil Miss Muffet. (Curds and Whey is cottage cheese) :P

I guess that turtle must have seriously vivid dreams. First he dreams of Don and himself as rodeo detectives trying to stop an evil clown stealing a buckaroo diamond. The cheese thing was probably some weird dream he had due to eating pizza before bed, knowing Mikey.Cool that the guys called him out on the cheese demon thing, vivid dream or no.

[Jester]

So Kev, what did you think of him tapping Tim's container? Mischievous? I wasn't sure what to make of that at first. Becca thinks he probably didn't realize what he was doing since he seems like one of those guys who have to be fidgeting or tampering with something while solving a difficult problem. Like those guys who randomly click pens and all that.
I agree with Becca. Seems like a boredom tick.

[blindturtle02]

Yeah, I really liked that notion. Although I bet Tim's coming after Mikey for that eventually. haha

[DonatelloNinja82]

Just watched it. It was pretty good...not my favorite, but a good intro to the rest of the season. I must say, I was not impressed by Mikey at all. I usually like Nick Mikey, but his jokes aren't usually so...random. Talking cupcakes??? And as others have said, I can understand that mutagen is random (Timothy) but I till wonder why Kirby cannot talk as a mutant. I even said that to my boys as we were watching it. Granted Timothy seems to have lost his mind as well...so who knows. Don was good in this episode. He had some emotional moments. I can understand April being upset. She's just had a huge emotional blow...I just hope she gets over it soon!! Looking forward to the rest of the season!

[ObiWanFan4life]

Well, that was a decent season opener, however, Mikey's bone-shattering stupidity sort of kept me from enjoying it fully.
Also, why are the turtles over indulging in their victory, did they just up and forget that the last time they got this cocky, they got their asses handed to them and damn near died? Also, I hope April doesn't become a colossal b*tch as the season progresses.

Ranting aside :
8.5/10

[DVD]

I thought this was OK.
I think it's the first time I didn't laugh out loud during an episode, but came close at the various expressions as the rocket zoomed by.
Setting April against the Turtles was a strange thing to do, and I hope they have a plan to resolve it.
And is this a set up to have mutagen monster of the week shows?

[ObiWanFan4life]

Also, I REALLY wish we wouldn't have to suffer through any more angstgasms in the show. If it's going to happen almost every episode, it's going to get old..Very fast.

[NinjaPug]

IGN has their review up. 8.2 / 10

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/12/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-mutation-situation-review

[kelligrafie]

IGN has their review up. 8.2 / 10

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/12/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-mutation-situation-review

I'd love to know how they can be so specific with 0.2 in their rating. :lol:

[Vivi]

Can we take a moment from all the hating on the episode and talk about how beautifully done the raining mutagen containers were. That was seriously just such an amazing visual... Even if based on the speed and trajectory of the stealth ship it would. Have never happened as beautifully.

Still since it felt the whole episode was about those canisters falling and the start of the mutagen situation story arc. I think they at least gave us some pay off in that moment.

I liked that bit too. Reminded me a lot of the show Falling Skies episode when the volm first appear.

[BubblyShell22]

I loved this episode and thought it was good for a season opener. The Turtles getting cocky about their victory is understandable because they just saved the world and feel that things will get back to normal now. Sure, they didn't learn their lesson from before, but when do teenagers ever learn their lesson right away? They don't. I felt sorry for Kirby though having to be mutated like that. Poor guy just gets reunited with his daughter and they have to turn him into a bat. As for him not touching the bat, I think he did on the way down and they just didn't show it. Mikey was funny in this episode, and I think him telling April the truth was the right thing to do. He was only feeling nonchalant about it because he figured that since they saved the world from the Kraang before that it would be an easy fix. I loved his costume as well and him calling Kirby Wingnut was pretty cool and a good Easter egg. April being mad at the Turtles was a good twist and a great way to develop her character since so many here are so mad about that. Overall, a really good episode, and I can't wait to see what else they do with this show.

Favorite quotes:

Raph: For the fifty seventh time, there was no cottage cheese demon!
Mikey: Did you see him. Huh?
Raph: No.
Mikey: Then how do you know he wasn't there?
Raph: What--That--That doesn't even make any--Okay, man, if you say so.

Splinter: I know you are reveling in your victory over our enemies, but a greater question remains.
Mikey: Can cupcakes talk?
Splinter: Are our enemies truly defeated or are they still out there?

Donnie: It looks like it's picking up an interdimensional signal which can only mean one thing.
Mikey: Cupcakes CAN talk.
Leo: The Kraang are back.

Mikey: I feel like bait.
Raph: Aw, don't think of yourself as bait, Mikey. Think of yourself as a superhero. And your name will be--
Mikey: Turtflytle. Tur-fly-tle. So awesome. And what are my superpowers?
Leo: You can hang from a rope.
Mikey: This is sweet.

Raph: Don't get your ninja undies in a knot, Donnie.

Leo: Guys, I think the bat was Mr. O'Neil.
Mikey: How can you tell?
Leo: Have you seen any red-bearded middle aged bats lately?

And that's all I can think of for quotes. See you next week, guys.

[ObiWanFan4life]

I loved this episode and thought it was good for a season opener. The Turtles getting cocky about their victory is understandable because they just saved the world and feel that things will get back t normal now. Sure, they didn't learn their lesson from before, but when do teenagers ever learn their lesson right away? They don't. I felt sorry for Kirby though having to be mutated like that. Poor guy just gets reunited with his daughter and they have to turn him into a bat. As for him not touching the bat, I think he did on the way down and they just didn't show it. Mikey was funny in this episode, and I think him telling April the truth was the right thing to do. He was only feeling nonchalant about it becasue he fightued that since they saved the world from the Kraang before that it would be an easy fix. I loved his costume as well and him calling Kirby Wingnut was pretty cool and a good Easter egg. April being mad at the Turtles was a good twist and a great way to develop her character since so many here are so mad about that. Overall, a really good episode, and I can't wait to see what else they do with this show.

Favorite quotes:

Raph: For the fifty seventh time, there was no cottage cheese demon!
Mikey: Did you see him. Huh?
Raph: No.
Mikey: Then how do you know he wasn't there?
Raph: What--That--That doesn't even make any--Okay, man, if you say so.

Splinter: I know you are reveling in your victory over our enemies, but a greater question remains.
Mikey: Can cupcakes talk?
Splinter: Are our enemies truly defeated or are they still out there?

Donnie: It looks like it's picking up an interdimensional signal which can only mean one thing.
Mikey: Cupcakes CAN talk.
Leo: The Kraang are back.

Mikey: I feel like bait.
Raph: Aw, don't think of yourself as bait, Mikey. Think of yourself as a superhero. And your name will be--
Mikey: Turtflytle. Tur-fly-tle. So awesome. And what are my superpowers?
Leo: You can hang from a rope.
Mikey: This is sweet.

Raph: Don't get your ninja undies in a knot, Donnie.

Leo: Guys, I think the bat was Mr. O'Neil.
Mikey: How can you tell?
Leo: Have you seen any red-bearded middle aged bats lately?

And that's all I can think of for quotes. See you next week, guys.

I (mostly) agree with what you said. But why would they assume that everything would be back to normal? Teenagers or not, they REALLY should have known better. Why did Mikey have to blatantly tell April about the cannisters?
It's questions like these that suggests that the show is suffering a severe case of sequelitis, and that the turtles have learned NOTHING from the first season.

[CyberCubed]

I wonder if Don will invent the retro mutagen gun.

[TigerClaw]

Has anyone noticed in the lair, There's a scene where you can see a poster of the human anatomy in the background? Its probably from Donatello for studying.

[cryan]

I do hope they patch things up between April and the guys. I don't want her to turn on the turtles join The Kraang in helping to destroy them or some crap like that. I understand her being upset but yeah that was heavy. Also, its in Mikey's character to say the wrong thing at the wrong time.

[AdamWarlock87]

The parts I loved in this episode were:

Donnie's face when he says "it has butt cannons" and then the bio droid is shown shooting at the turtles with the butt cannons with its hands pressed against the wall like he was twerking.

And the dramatic hamster homage was awesome!

[JTH]

My overall take was this was a good episode, not great, but the set up into the rest of the season is great. Makes me much more excited for the next episode and moving further forward, so in the end, the episode did what it was supposed to.

2 thumbs up.

[cryan]

The line where April said she never wanted to see the Turtles again as a real punch to the gut.

[ObiWanFan4life]

The line where April said she never wanted to see the Turtles again as a real punch to the gut.

You wanna know the worst part? All of this could have EASILY been avoided if she had just MOVED OUT OF THE WAY!

[snake]

Finaly got to see the episode on iTunes, it was pretty good, but not as good as I thought it would be.

The Good

-Turtflytle was pretty cool.
-I liked Kirby's designs
-nice new opening images
-Timothy and Metalhead appearence!
-I liked the Dodgeball scene
-good ending
-DRAMATIC HAMSTER/MEERCAT!!

The Bad
-Mikey is getting dumber each episode
-Every episode this season will probably be a toy commercial


8.6/10

[blindturtle02]

I loved this episode and thought it was good for a season opener. The Turtles getting cocky about their victory is understandable because they just saved the world and feel that things will get back t normal now. Sure, they didn't learn their lesson from before, but when do teenagers ever learn their lesson right away? They don't. I felt sorry for Kirby though having to be mutated like that. Poor guy just gets reunited with his daughter and they have to turn him into a bat. As for him not touching the bat, I think he did on the way down and they just didn't show it. Mikey was funny in this episode, and I think him telling April the truth was the right thing to do. He was only feeling nonchalant about it becasue he fightued that since they saved the world from the Kraang before that it would be an easy fix. I loved his costume as well and him calling Kirby Wingnut was pretty cool and a good Easter egg. April being mad at the Turtles was a good twist and a great way to develop her character since so many here are so mad about that. Overall, a really good episode, and I can't wait to see what else they do with this show.

Favorite quotes:

Raph: For the fifty seventh time, there was no cottage cheese demon!
Mikey: Did you see him. Huh?
Raph: No.
Mikey: Then how do you know he wasn't there?
Raph: What--That--That doesn't even make any--Okay, man, if you say so.

Splinter: I know you are reveling in your victory over our enemies, but a greater question remains.
Mikey: Can cupcakes talk?
Splinter: Are our enemies truly defeated or are they still out there?

Donnie: It looks like it's picking up an interdimensional signal which can only mean one thing.
Mikey: Cupcakes CAN talk.
Leo: The Kraang are back.

Mikey: I feel like bait.
Raph: Aw, don't think of yourself as bait, Mikey. Think of yourself as a superhero. And your name will be--
Mikey: Turtflytle. Tur-fly-tle. So awesome. And what are my superpowers?
Leo: You can hang from a rope.
Mikey: This is sweet.

Raph: Don't get your ninja undies in a knot, Donnie.

Leo: Guys, I think the bat was Mr. O'Neil.
Mikey: How can you tell?
Leo: Have you seen any red-bearded middle aged bats lately?

And that's all I can think of for quotes. See you next week, guys.

My better half and I were discussing April's reaction at the end of the episode over dinner last night. Becca was saying that April's still just a kid herself and she's naturally going to cope by getting angry with the guys. Bec's mom passed away from terminal cancer that was thought to have gone into remission not too long ago. Another family member of her's dealt with it the same way April seems to be dealing with her father's mutation if that makes sense. It's not an easy thing having someone you care about being ripped away from you especially after you think the danger has passed. So yeah, people are often going to say things they don't mean in situations like these. Lashing out at others closest to you when faced with such a situation isn't very pretty and I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, but it does happen and it's to be expected from time to time. It's all part of being human. So needless to say we weren't all that surprised when seeing April do this. We also agree with ya 100 percent about Mikey's honesty. We feel it was him simply doing the right thing and that it had nothing to do with the attempts of writers to dumb him down.

[snake]

April was almost waiting for that canister to fall on her. GET OUT OF THE WAY!!!

[blindturtle02]

April was almost waiting for that canister to fall on her. GET OUT OF THE WAY!!!

I'm wondering if she's disgusted with herself as well as the turtles. I imagine she's probably thinking she should have moved sooner. Of course she's probably too angry with the boys to admit that just now. I suppose we'll just have to give it a couple episodes. Hopefully not too many.

[snake]

I'm wondering if she's disgusted with herself as well as the turtles. I imagine she's probably thinking she should have moved sooner. Of course she's probably too angry with the boys to admit that just now. I suppose we'll just have to give it a couple episodes. Hopefully not too many.

I have a bad feeling she won't show up until the finale.

[ObiWanFan4life]

I have a bad feeling she won't show up until the finale.

Oh good, does that mean when Casey Shows up, we won't have to put up with Emo Donnie?

[snake]

Oh good, does that mean when Casey Shows up, we won't have to put up with Emo Donnie?

Emo Donnie?!?!?!?? Leo was bad enough in 4kids but that's crazy.

I really hope that no turtles get depressed this season. The only character who should get depressed is Karai.

[CyberCubed]

You wanna know the worst part? All of this could have EASILY been avoided if she had just MOVED OUT OF THE WAY!

The canister scene was falling in slow motion. She didn't have time to react.

[ObiWanFan4life]

Emo Donnie?!?!?!?? Leo was bad enough in 4kids but that's crazy.

I really hope that no turtles get depressed this season. The only character who should get depressed is Karai.

I was referring to Donnie being upset over his (would-be) "girlfriend" being with Casey. Though if you ask me, I could have done without an irritating love triangle, I don't have enough Twilight jokes in me to last the whole season.:lol:

[snake]

I was referring to Donnie being upset over his (would-be) "girlfriend" being with Casey. Though if you ask me, I could have done without an irritating love triangle, I don't have enough Twilight jokes in me to last the whole season.:lol:

Yeah I knew and your right. April should stay single.

[Desslok]

I had to do it!!! :D

0-MVE1Hz8dI

[ObiWanFan4life]

I had to do it!!! :D

0-MVE1Hz8dI

It was only a matter of time before SOMEONE did.

[blindturtle02]

I have a bad feeling she won't show up until the finale.

That long of a wait, huh? Maaaan, I hope not! But yes indeed, that could happen. Hadn't thought of that.

[FrostXxBitex]

I have a bad feeling she won't show up until the finale.

Well, she obviously does show up before the finale.

Not sure if you have been paying attention to any information on season 2 but at the NYCC TMNT panel, they had animatics of April in an episode. Also, they're bringing in Casey and if you haven't seen any trailers for him, he's saving April from Mutagen Man... Clearly, she's going to show before the finale.

[BabyTurtles]

Well, she obviously does show up before the finale.

Not sure if you have been paying attention to any information on season 2 but at the NYCC TMNT panel, they had animatics of April in an episode. Also, they're bringing in Casey and if you haven't seen any trailers for him, he's saving April from Mutagen Man... Clearly, she's going to show before the finale.

annnnnnnddd
Mikey needs to get ice cream kitty from April :D so she'll forgive them sooner than later for sure

[victory_angel]

Maybe Donnie gets hurt trying to protect April from Mutagen Man and that reminds her that her Father was mutated because he had been trying to protect her.

Originally she was in shock by seeing a mutation take place and then hearing Mikey honestly inform her that they were the ones responsible her fathers Mutation just sent her over the edge.

As for Mikey I feel it was rather mature on his part to be honest and admit that. yeah they were cocky and something went wrong on the fight in the Kraang Ship resulting in mutagen getting spilled through out the city. And her father was seriously effected as a result. But it would have been better if he hadn't sounded like he was proud of it.

Maybe there should be a later moment where Donnie does promise to restore her father's humanity again...and April just says "Donnie, please don't promise what you know is impossible."

[NinjaMan]

I have a bad feeling she won't show up until the finale.

You really think April won't show up till the finale? We've seen clips with her and Casey and a clip with her and a new character named Kurtzman from NYCC. April will not disappear that long.

[JH24]

Very nice episode. A good opening for the new season. Not the best episode but I enjoyed it.


Animation, coloring, art, everything seems to have improved from last season. I especially enjoyed the turtles' expressions, the fluid motions and those action scenes on the ship and later with the mutated Kirby. Everything feels more vivid and alive now.


Mikey felt off though in this episode. Too many interruptions and he seemed at this worst in some of the scenes, although he also had some funny moments. Enjoyed his fly costume, how he assured Mr. O'Neill everything would be alright, and (how odd that may sound) his confession that they were to blame for the mutagen spill.

At first I didn't like how he brought the news to April, but looking back he tried (in his own clumsy way) to reassure April everything would be alright, and secondly he didn't want April to carry the burden of blaming herself for what happened. I'm still annoyed the other turtles wanted to hide the truth from April about their (unwanted) role about the Mutagen release.

The scene where April was angry at the turtles was painful to watch, but her reaction was understandable. Whenever she looks at the turtles now, she only sees the faces of those she associates with what happened to her dad. And this time she has no idea if she'll ever see her dad again or if he even can be saved.


Also, "I'll swear by Darwin's beard." Oh, come on. Couldn't the writers come up with something better? That one sentence detracted from the scene.

It was good to see Shredder and Karai as well. It was also a nice touch seeing Donnie trying to help Timothy.

Nice episode, especially fun to watch because of the action and expressions, but hopefully Mikey's portrayal here isn't an indication of future episodes.

[BabyTurtles]

Also, "I'll swear by Darwin's beard." Oh, come on. Couldn't the writers come up with something better? That one sentence detracted from the scene.


lol you too XD

when Donnie said it I chuckled a bit XD even though it was supposed to be serious XD

also Am I still the only one that doesn't like how Donnie seems to be the only one assuring April and trying to take on helping her dad by himself?

aren't the other turtles her friends too!? it would have been nice to hear one of the other turtles tell her that they will try their best too.....even if she wouldn't listen to them. (unless I missed it)

IDK guys...this whole Donnie and April thing is kinda making him seem like the most important turtle.


(PS.....I kinda liked it when Mikey told April the truth......he wasn't gonna let her think everything was her fault, that would be sad...and I'm kinda disappointed that the other turtles were gonna keep it a secret from her....though maybe Mikey could have put it in a better way....XD)

[JTH]

IDK guys...this whole Donnie and April thing is kinda making him seem like the most important turtle.

The show has followed trends. Donnie did become the most important turtle by the end of Season 1, probably the last 4 episodes because of Timothy, April, and saving her dad.

But during the meat of the season from New Girl in Town to Enemy of my Enemy, Leo became the most important turtle because of his relationship with Karai.

Each turtle will become more important during the season depending on who the supporting character is being focused on.

[NinjaMan]

Raph will probably become important once Slash comes along.

[BubblyShell22]

Raph will have focus with Casey and Slash no doubt. I think each of the Turtles could have reassured her, but I don't think it would have mattered. I liked how Raph told Don to give April space though.

[victory_angel]

also Am I still the only one that doesn't like how Donnie seems to be the only one assuring April and trying to take on helping her dad by himself?

Because if there is a cure for the mutagen to be found, he is the only one who could potentially find it.

When he said his brothers and himself would find her father, it's because he knew he would need his brothers help for the search and rescue missions.

But when it comes to the sciencey stuff he's pretty much alone in that department. Still at this point promising to restore her dad's humanity is like promising the impossible. If he says "I can't promise I will be able to restore your father's humanity, but I will do everything within my power to try." later on that would be more realistic then "I swear by Darwins beard I will not rest until I have returned your father to normal."

[JH24]

lol you too XD

when Donnie said it I chuckled a bit XD even though it was supposed to be serious XD

also Am I still the only one that doesn't like how Donnie seems to be the only one assuring April and trying to take on helping her dad by himself?

aren't the other turtles her friends too!? it would have been nice to hear one of the other turtles tell her that they will try their best too.....even if she wouldn't listen to them. (unless I missed it)

IDK guys...this whole Donnie and April thing is kinda making him seem like the most important turtle.


(PS.....I kinda liked it when Mikey told April the truth......he wasn't gonna let her think everything was her fault, that would be sad...and I'm kinda disappointed that the other turtles were gonna keep it a secret from her....though maybe Mikey could have put it in a better way....XD)

My first reaction was more like "Wait...What did he say?" The second time I had to chuckle a bit though, but it still takes away a bit from the seriousness of the scene.

I understand what you mean. It's something that happened in season 1 as well. It was often Donnie who stepped in. Although I like Donnie/April interactions, they overshadow April's interactions with the other turtles.


I feel the same as you do. And the more I think about it, the more I'm disappointed with the others not telling April the truth, and especially because it would mean letting April blame herself for what happpened. At least Mikey was being honest toward April, but he could have done it in a better way.

[JTH]

I do like the fact that they can play off Kirby becoming a bat.

Since bats use radar, the turtles can use the radar dishes that are set up around the city to detect Kirby's radar, thus knowing when and where he is around the city. So they can always make an attempt to get him back.

Kinda cool to see them think of things like this.

[oldmanwinters]

I had to do it!!! :D

0-MVE1Hz8dI

You have my sincere appreciation.

[Karai Samurai]

Just noticed something rewatching the premiere on my DVR. At first Donnie asked only April to go on the rooftop with the Gameboy tracker thingy but April said she knew nothing about radar. Donnie then begged her to take her dad because he's a scientist.

What does a psychologist know about radar?

[Shark_Blade]

Plot device. Just so they can mutate her dad.

[Martin]

I just managed to watch the ep, and I gotta say that I didn't like it at all. Worst part is that I'm pretty sure the show is gonna be like this from now on :tconfuse:

[Technogeek29]

So a little point my bro brought up that made me both died laughing and face plam. When the ooze is falling from the sky it hits various things. Such as cars, buildings, swing sets, pavement and various roofs. Besides the one in the allley the only canistor that smash was the one that hit Kirby... So the dozens of other hard objects/surfaces didn't break the canistors but hitting a human (who would soon be rendered unconcious by such a thing) breaks it? That just makes the mutation more contrived.

[Martin]

Oh, btw, am I the only one who is annoyed by the fact that they keep reusing the same models/locations? Like the rooftop that has the triangle shaped sky window, the warehouse, etc? I think I even saw Bradford's dog being reused at some point...

[Coola Yagami]

So a little point my bro brought up that made me both died laughing and face plam. When the ooze is falling from the sky it hits various things. Such as cars, buildings, swing sets, pavement and various roofs. Besides the one in the allley the only canistor that smash was the one that hit Kirby... So the dozens of other hard objects/surfaces didn't break the canistors but hitting a human (who would soon be rendered unconcious by such a thing) breaks it? That just makes the mutation more contrived.

I was honestly thinking that cannister woulda konked April on the head, rather than mutate her. The bigger risk was it falling real near to her and have some splash on her if it shattered.

[n-zero]

Since Mikey called him Wingnut, I'm almost wondering if Screwloose will come in and his bite will complete/stabilize Kirby's mutation (creating a symbiosis, similar to how Screwloose's bite was the only way Wingnut could sleep in the Archie series.) Maybe being a giant bat mutant instead of a frail scientist will inspire Kirby to fight the Kraang, and they'll build a task force that loosely references the Mutanimals?

[NinjaMan]

Since Mikey called him Wingnut, I'm almost wondering if Screwloose will come in and his bite will complete/stabilize Kirby's mutation (creating a symbiosis, similar to how Screwloose's bite was the only way Wingnut could sleep in the Archie series.) Maybe being a giant bat mutant instead of a frail scientist will inspire Kirby to fight the Kraang, and they'll build a task force that loosely references the Mutanimals?

Dude this is one of the best things I read to bring them in.

[Avatar Yuffie]

Finally saw it.

It's alright. I expect all the criticism you guys came up with the show prepared me for the bad points of the episode. It never bugged me.

I'm more amazed it took weeks in-universe between season 1 and 2. Thought it was a few days.

I like how the animation went way up. April is a LOT more expressive now, her eyes react more and the way her bangs and ponytail swaying whenever she moves her head is really appreciated.

The action scenes are amazingly well paced.

As for the story, it's alright. I am stunned Mikey never took the mutation of Kirby seriously, but I like how the breakdown between Don and April's friendship was portrayed. I am worried this is the convenient way for the writers to get rid of April offscreen for 10 plus episodes, but fortunately the previews says otherwise. I also wish Karai talked, but I'm glad she's there.

[CyberCubed]

I just managed to watch the ep, and I gotta say that I didn't like it at all. Worst part is that I'm pretty sure the show is gonna be like this from now on :tconfuse:

Really? Wasn't the best episode but it was certainly not bad, it was very entertaining.

It does feel like it has a repetitive set-up for the rest of the season with the Turtles looking for mutagen and coming across mutants, but we'll see.

[JH24]

Really? Wasn't the best episode but it was certainly not bad, it was very entertaining.

It does feel like it has a repetitive set-up for the rest of the season with the Turtles looking for mutagen and coming across mutants, but we'll see.

That's something I'm a bit worried about as well. That season 2 seems to have even more "mutant-of the-week" episodes with a few "plot-advancing" episodes sprinkled inbetween.

At this point I'm more looking forward to certain character interactions/developments (Like Casey/turtles/April and Leo/Karai) than the current main story itself.

On the other hand, this season could very well surprise us.

[Slime State Alumni]

So a little point my bro brought up that made me both died laughing and face plam. When the ooze is falling from the sky it hits various things. Such as cars, buildings, swing sets, pavement and various roofs. Besides the one in the allley the only canistor that smash was the one that hit Kirby... So the dozens of other hard objects/surfaces didn't break the canistors but hitting a human (who would soon be rendered unconcious by such a thing) breaks it? That just makes the mutation more contrived.

Actually there's a bunch shown in the episode that cracked open and were leaking. As for why it didn't knock him unconscious. Maybe the materials for the canisters defy Earth-based physics or are made from alien materials and have different physical properties as a result. I don't know man, it's a cartoon on Nickeldeon about talking mutated turtles that practice ninjitsu in the sewer. This ain't NOVA.

[drgon78]

I thought it wasn't just me that thought that the episode, especially April, was better animated.

[Martin]

Really? Wasn't the best episode but it was certainly not bad, it was very entertaining.

It does feel like it has a repetitive set-up for the rest of the season with the Turtles looking for mutagen and coming across mutants, but we'll see.

I didn't say it was boring. I just feel that they are starting to overdo a lot of stuff that I do not like. For instance, mikey's IQ seems to be dropping ep after ep, and I really don't dig the overuse of fart jokes and such. I get it's a kids show and all, but yeah. I already knew the mutant of the week thing was gonna be the norm this season, so that really doesn't bother me as much. There was something about the way the ep was written that also made me dislike it. Maybe it's because they tried to cram too much stuff in one ep, IDK.
Fight scene against the gorilla was pretty brutal though, I really dug it. I mean, raph ****ing stabbed the thing in the back, twice. Also, mikey pulled the head of it up in a way that definitely make it look like he was holding it there so Leo could decapitate the thing. Awesome. Though, given the nature of the show, it felt a bit out of place.

[Darth Knuckles]

I really liked the few seconds of the opening sequence that were new. More villains shown and Casey! I liked the Game Boy reference and the Wingnut reference in there as well. As some one else mentioned, with all of these mutagen canisters every where, will we see a Screwloose character come into play too? I also feel that the ending with April and Donnie is what may push April to Casey Jones too.

Did anyone else think that when they were building up as to how to catch Kirby after he mutated into a bat, that they would try and find Spider Bytez? I thought that until I saw "Butterfly Mikey"!

[Jeff]

i havent had a chance to read this thread yet, but i watched the episode at NYCC, and it was terrible. Everything I hated about season 1 was amplified and nothing i liked from season 1 was present. The crowd reaction was the complete opposite from my own, and most of the crowd was around my age, which honestly shocks me. Good on Nick for creating a show for a new generation. I understand im not their demographic anymore, but the amount of people the show "isn't for" that still eat it up really amazes me. I almost got as mad at that panel at the audience as i do whenever i see or hear from a brony.

[InsaneZane]

The guys really screwed up in this episode, but i can see why the writers did certain things, like instead of having a new mutation origin for every new mutant, now they can just show up and we already know why they're there. Buzz buzz

Also does anyone think we won't see an "official" Wingnut now that Kirby-bat is like an Easter egg for him? And what of Screwloose? Has his character between abandoned? Buzz buzz

Oh and just thought id say buzz buzz one more time. Buzz buzz

[kelligrafie]

Oh, btw, am I the only one who is annoyed by the fact that they keep reusing the same models/locations? Like the rooftop that has the triangle shaped sky window, the warehouse, etc? I think I even saw Bradford's dog being reused at some point...

Don't even get me started on generic blonde lady. Sheesh.

[BubblyShell22]

I'm surprised we didn't see the pizza delivery kid in this ep, but I'm sure we'll see him at some point.

[Fjaj]

This episode was much too silly.

Though, the the animation was noticeably better

[CyberCubed]

If the biotroid was a robot why did it look like an ape?

[Shark_Blade]

Because aliens.

[Jester]

If the biotroid was a robot why did it look like an ape?
It's a cyborg....you know BIO-troid.

[demonsweat]

I didn't say it was boring. I just feel that they are starting to overdo a lot of stuff that I do not like. For instance, mikey's IQ seems to be dropping ep after ep, and I really don't dig the overuse of fart jokes and such. I get it's a kids show and all, but yeah. I already knew the mutant of the week thing was gonna be the norm this season, so that really doesn't bother me as much. There was something about the way the ep was written that also made me dislike it. Maybe it's because they tried to cram too much stuff in one ep, IDK.

Reading through the comments, that seems to be the consensus around here. I really like this version of Mikey overall, but I do think some of his jokes fell a little flat in this one. He's a tricky character to do though. And comedy is notoriously hard to write well. I don't know if I'd say he's getting dumber as the series goes on (remember, he pulled off some pretty clever stuff in Parasitica), I just think it varies from writer to writer. The whole "look at Mikey do/say random dumb thing" seems like a bit of a crutch used in lieu of wittier jokes and banter.

Fight scene against the gorilla was pretty brutal though, I really dug it. I mean, raph ****ing stabbed the thing in the back, twice. Also, mikey pulled the head of it up in a way that definitely make it look like he was holding it there so Leo could decapitate the thing. Awesome. Though, given the nature of the show, it felt a bit out of place.

I'll say it again, I do so enjoy the amount of stabbing in this show. :P


Well I'm late to the party, but I thought this one was pretty good. Maybe not the strongest episode on its own, but it set up some interesting things to look forward to. Some points:

- I'm not crazy about Kirby/Wingnut's design, it's not really doing it for me... but I am looking forward to new mutants. The "mutant-of-the-week" thing is growing on me some, I'm happy with most of what the Nick crew has come up with so far.
- Love the new additions to the intro. Badass Casey Jones creeping around at the end... bring him on!!
- Butt cannons has to be a reference to Astro Boy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV-aEPk9_4o)
- Splinter's brief freak out over mention of felines (A CAT??!!) made me lose it. Can't imagine he's going to warm up to ICK very well. :lol:
- I like to see the turtles screw up here and there, it gives their characters some dimension. I like how it really came back to bite them in this one too, which again played into Splinter's warning that they were getting too cocky. I'm betting April won't be gone for long, but yeah... I got a feeling this is setup for her and Casey meeting up. Which would be fine in my book, but I'm probably gonna avoid tumblr that week... :ohwell:

[blindturtle02]

I feel like they should have aired another ep alongside Mutation Situation. Felt more like a prologue to the second season. The best is undoubtedly yet to come. I'm looking forward to next weekend.

[miru]

I have a hard time believing the actual Wingnut is going to show up now. Seems that early sketch for Wingnut/Screwloose was probably scraped when they got the idea to turn Kirby into a bat instead, but had Mikey call him Wingnut as an easter egg.

Yes Wingnut/Screwloose are aliens, but I really can't see them having two bat creatures show up with the other one having the same name Mikey called Kirby.

In fact judging by the upcoming toy lineup, we won't be seeing any of the old Mutanimal characters in this show, at least not anytime soon.

And yet Karai lacks a toy despite being very prominent. Maybe they'll chuck Mondo and the like in but hesitate with the toys?

[TonySiegel]

episode was definitely leaning more towards the silly vibe...

still though, the show's strong points hold up

[Bossa Nova]

Oh, btw, am I the only one who is annoyed by the fact that they keep reusing the same models/locations? Like the rooftop that has the triangle shaped sky window, the warehouse, etc? I think I even saw Bradford's dog being reused at some point...

I don't know why this would be annoying? The turtles have favorite spots they like to go to, or they hang around the buildings and streets near their home. It makes perfect sense to me and seems quite intentional, not laziness.

[snake]

I hope next weeks episode will be better. Squirrels make everything better.

[demonsweat]

I don't know why this would be annoying? The turtles have favorite spots they like to go to, or they hang around the buildings and streets near their home. It makes perfect sense to me and seems quite intentional, not laziness.

Eh, it's not really intentional. I get what you're saying, but it really has more to do with budget restraints. The environments are one thing, but character models are painfully reused as well. It's not really the Nick team's fault, it's just the limitations of CGI. (And yeah that was the Hachiko dog model on that fire escape, wasn't it? I caught that too.)

I think those of us who cap/gif the show are a little more sensitive to this sort of thing though. :twink:

[Shark_Blade]

Other shows reuse environments too from time to time. I don't see the fuss much.

[Bossa Nova]

Finally saw it. Bust out laughing when Mikey was dressed in the bug costume and he said, "I feel like bait". Also loved how concerned Raph was when Donnie fell when they were in the midst of trapping Kirby.

The entire rest of the episode I could have done without.

Oh. But seeing Casey in the theme song was AWESOME!!! I reeeeeally hope we get to see him in action soon.

[victory_angel]

I had half expected Raph or maybe Leo to have a bro moment with Donnie seeing as he just had his heart broken in front of them. I know that they had more important things to deal with such as the mutagen.
And the others do give him a concerned glance in his direction when he does say "Poor April." But were otherwise sort of just giving Donnie space. Perhaps in the next episode or maybe a later episode we may see Leo or Raph maybe check on him to see if he's okay.

Of all of them, Leo is more likely to understand what Donnie is going through since he hasn't quite suffered through heart break or at least not to the same extent that his brother is. But being betrayed by Karai and losing Karai's trust has put him through a sort of similar kinda hurt.

Raph on the other hand has been known to be comforting to his brothers when he thinks they need it.

As for Mikey I was hoping for a bit of tension between him and Donnie since he is the reason April is upset with them. Again this is probably something that will be apart of the next episode or upcoming episode.

[MogwaiNinja89]

Aside from Mikey being more idiotic then he ever has, this was another fun episode.

[DONATELLO DUZMACHINES]

With the exception of a few of Mikey's jokes falling flat, I really liked the the episode. It can be hard to write humor though. I loved the fight scene in the stealth ship, the action was well choreographed especially Leo's death blow. I really like the design of Kirby Bat, its very horror sci fi mutation rather than just large man bat. It seems like the CG has gotten better as well.

[TigerClaw]

Black Nerd's review of the Season 2 premiere.

-cll9EsbKKM

[Bauer536]

Okay, guys. When I was worried about what I heard from this episode, I'll admit, I didn't watch the episode yet. I still don't have cable or Direct TV. Stupid moving.:tgrumble:

Anyway, I have finally watched the episode. Here's my reaction:

:tgrin:This episode was awesome! I worried for no reason.:toops:

First off, when April was angry, I felt bad for the turtles. I can't believe it.:tsad: But you know what- it really wasn't their fault. It was Mikey's. He's still the one that opened that hatch. I mean, I'd call it a hatch, but I'm not sure what you guys would call it. I guess that Splinter felt that if Mikey goes down, they all go down. Yes, they were very cocky. However, I'd like to see them confident more so they don't mope around. Still, they must settle down.

The only things I didn't like wasn't Mikey's dumb moments, but the fact that the turtles played with the Kraang orb for dodgeball. That wasn't a smart idea. Man, that Kraang battle really got to their heads, didn't it?:tgrumble: However, everyone was in character. That's all that mattered.:tcool:

Anyway - the scene where they're battling the Biotroid was interesting. When I mean "interesting," I mean "not as funny when you hear the fart noises, but still something to laugh at.":tlol: It was driving me crazy to hear those sounds. But, I'm sorry. The best part of the episodes came from the action. Seeing Raph stabbing the Biotroid was interesting. I haven't seen stabbing done yet. Maybe that's what Nieli meant by "maturing." Anyways, the minute Leo came in and stabbed the head, that was epic. I didn't want to see blood, but I was surprised the animators used a skull. Symbolism? Besides "death," "Casey Jones," right? It was still cool.:tcool:

The scene where Mike is the "turflytle" and kept saying "buzz buzz" in every sentence made me chuckle. Very funny. Did come off annoying, but it was still good comedy. It applied to the situation and Mike's sense of humor. But, wow. When Leo got off his hang glider to jump on top of Kirby, I was like, "Wow. Is it me, or does this remind me of Batman grabbing onto Man-Bat in "On Leather Wings"? That was the coolest thing I have seen for the second year, thus far.:tgrin: It was a great episode. Bring on the squirrel!

And you guys are funny. I have seen that video before, so when I saw the squirrel, I was like "Hilarious!":tlol:

[CyberCubed]

The animation looked the same as season 1 to me, what parts improved?

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

The animation looked the same as season 1 to me, what parts improved?

The lighting, to me, looked a bit more polished.

[JH24]

The facial expressions of the turtles seem more "alive"/"expressive" as well.

It's not easy to put your finger on it, but everything just feels a bit more smooth, polished and better colored in comparison with season 1.

[snake]

I agree, the anamation looks way better. Compare it to Rise Of The Turtles. It's way better.

[blindturtle02]

Yeah my sweetie was talking about that this past weekend. She noticed that as well. No telling how well everything will look about 2 or so seasons down the road. Neat to see how a show evolves visually over time.

[snake]

Yeah my sweetie was talking about that this past weekend. She noticed that as well. No telling how well everything will look about 2 or so seasons down the road. Neat to see how a show evolves visually over time.

I'd say the most visually evolving show was Star Wars: The Clone Wars. It looked so amazing in season five.

[blindturtle02]

I'd say the most visually evolving show was Star Wars: The Clone Wars. It looked so amazing in season five.

Yeah I was just thinking about that! Gotta purchase my copy of s5 while I'm thinking about it. Hit the shelves today. Hopefully Turtles will look that good if Nick gives us up to 5 seasons.

[turtlefan1]

correct me if i wrong but unless kranng prime little brain drain cured her isnt april immune to mutagen obivously she left out the little detial to her father so he like any good parent took the hit for nothing so if anyone to blame it april for not telling her father everything the biodrid was a new element the turtle didnt foresee even if they were a little cocky so it wasnt all thier fault.

[victory_angel]

correct me if i wrong but unless kranng prime little brain drain cured her isnt april immune to mutagen obivously she left out the little detial to her father so he like any good parent took the hit for nothing so if anyone to blame it april for not telling her father everything the biodrid was a new element the turtle didnt foresee even if they were a little cocky so it wasnt all thier fault.

We know she's unaffected by Kraang water and that was only one time which wierded her out. It's not so certain about the mutagen.

As for her getting mad for the at the turtles. Yeah it was an accident. But she had got her father back just a couple months ago. And she was reluctant about involving her father in the mission because he's already suffering from PTSD after what the Kraang have been doing to him for nearly a year. And the fact that she felt guilty because had to lie to him in order to get him to help.
So when her dad mutates she is in shock because she had never actually seen a mutation happen. And worse yet the person who was mutated was her father.

At this point the mutation process is permanent so as far she knows her dad is going to be this hideous freak permanently. So being told that the Turtles are responsible for the mutation, on top of all this emotional back log of horror, guilt, grief and other such emotion it was enough to send the poor girl over the edge.

[Powder]

Got to see this in its entirety at NYCC with a chunk of the cast. Too rad!