Retro-mutagen: What will come of it?

[victory_angel]

Okay we know Donnie is going to develop retro-mutagen in the coming episodes.

This is a concept that was used before particularly in the OT series episode "Splinter No More" Where Donatello is offers to create a way to restore Master Splinter to being human once more. But the effects only last about an hour or so.


So what sort of good can come from Donatello creating the retro mutagen? Also what consequences will come from it?

Somethings I can see is Donatello offering to restore Splinter's humanity with it. After all he's heard his father mourn his lost humanity often enough, why not do something selfless and offer that sense of freedom to his father.

However unlike the OT Splinter who was welcoming of that opportunity. I can see Splinter being firmly against it and telling Donatello to never make such a dangerous offer ever again. He later approaches Donatello and tells his that while he did appreciate his thoughtfulness. But he has grown to have sense of peace with his rodent form and feels his place is no longer in the world of men, but with his sons.

As for consequences I can see Karai becoming interested in it, for the obvious reasons of using it against the Turtles and Splinter... by using it as a bated carrot for anyone who has been affected by the mutagen.

[BubblyShell22]

Well, yes, I can see this happening with Splinter too and Splinter feeling conflicted on wanting to return to his original state but feeling that he has a place with his sons. Of course, the good would be that Don would find a cure for Kirby and possibly Timothy himself if that's possible. The other consequence is not only Karai getting ahold of it but possibly Shredder finding it and using it against the Turtles as well, not to mention the Kraang somehow acquiring it. So, yeah, some good can come from this and some bad can too. We'll just have to see how this plays out and how Don makes it.

[kelligrafie]

"Well gang, looks like it's back to the ol' pet shop for us."

:ohwell: [/flashback]

[Coola Yagami]

:ohwell: [/flashback]

I really hope they use that line somewhere.

[Electric]

i think the obvious use of this retro mutagen would be restoring mr o'neil, and maybe even timothy. and could definitely see it being used by the foot and kraang against the turtles

[kelligrafie]

I really hope they use that line somewhere.

And "Tonight I dine on turtle soup mwahuhruhurh."

[Aaronardo]

I really hope they use that line somewhere.

If anyone does, Donnie better use it.

[The Big Bad]

If it's created at all, I think it will only exist just long enough to for it to cure Kirby before being made unusable. Given how mutants have become the series' bread and butter when it comes to villains, I don't see the writers giving the turtles that big an out, even if turning mutants back into their core selves turns out to be harder here than it is typically portrayed.

[Ryanator008]

What if they un-mutate the turtles for an episode, and have them come back at the end? That would be cool!

[FoxZerro]

I honestly believe that there will only be a finite amount of the retro-mutagen and that it will all be used up in an epic mutant rampage in the season 2 finale. It would be a good reason why so many of the humans who have been effected are unable to get restored back to human form.

Not to mention a mutant outbreak would be the perfect opportunity to introduce the ooze launching backpacks from the you line into the show as a means of administering to the mutants while keeping the turtles out of harms way.

That being said I think having Splinter console Donatello after he realizes he's unable to create the retro-mutagen again with what has already been said above would be a great fatherly moment for him.

[snake]

What if they un-mutate the turtles for an episode, and have them come back at the end? That would be cool!

That sounds like the plot of 70% of TMNT fanfiction. I'm sure that episode would include a set of recolored girl turtles.

[Ryanator008]

That sounds like the plot of 70% of TMNT fanfiction. I'm sure that episode would include a set of recolored girl turtles.

Just an idea. :tgrumble:

[Avatar Yuffie]

Will most likely cure Kirby and/or Timothy. Hopefully.

The retro mutagen thing isn't new. OT had that for a few episodes (Splinter returned briefly as a human, April became a mutant fish but she got cured in the end) and in Archie (where April became a mutant turtle, and also got herself a cure).

[FoxZerro]

The retro mutagen thing isn't new. OT had that for a few episodes (Splinter returned briefly as a human, April became a mutant fish but she got cured in the end)

To be fair though, April's fish mutation was the cause of genetic manipulation not mutagen and was reversed using the same device created by Dr. Polidorius which transformed her in the first place

[blindturtle02]

What if they un-mutate the turtles for an episode, and have them come back at the end? That would be cool!

They could let the 80's turtles go after the mutagen in order to restore the 2012 tmnt so they could get some more screen time some day. Granted this will probably never happen but it'd be cool.

I like the idea of Karai dangling the retro mutagen in front of other villains who have been mutated. Spider Bytez, Snakeweed, Mutagen Man if he's ever capable of rational thought. I'd like a modern day Night of The Rogues episode. As Shredder and Krang would say,"So sue me!"

[Kas]

What if they un-mutate the turtles for an episode, and have them come back at the end? That would be cool!

Would it be cool to see the turtles become normal pet turtles? ._.

[raph27]

Would it be cool to see the turtles become normal pet turtles? ._.

TEENAGE AVERAGE NORMAL TURRRTLES, TEENAGE AVERAGE NORMAL TURRRRRTLES, TEENAGE AVERAGE NORMAL TURTLES, turtles in a glass cage, normal turtles!:tlol:

[Kas]

teenage average normal turrrtles, teenage average normal turrrrrtles, teenage average normal turtles, turtles in a glass cage, normal turtles!:tlol:

best. Show. Evah.

[BubblyShell22]

TEENAGE AVERAGE NORMAL TURRRTLES, TEENAGE AVERAGE NORMAL TURRRRRTLES, TEENAGE AVERAGE NORMAL TURTLES, turtles in a glass cage, normal turtles!:tlol:

Oh, man, I about fell off my chair reading that. Good one.

[snake]

-Leonardo eats, Donatello munches leaves!
Raph just has to poop and Michealangelo is the boring dude!
Teenage Average normal turtles
Heroes in a glass cage!
Normal power!

[JTH]

TEENAGE AVERAGE NORMAL TURRRTLES, TEENAGE AVERAGE NORMAL TURRRRRTLES, TEENAGE AVERAGE NORMAL TURTLES, turtles in a glass cage, normal turtles!:tlol:
THEY'RE THE WORLD'S MOST AVERAGE BORING PETS! ("We're Really Cute!")
OR MAKE "TURTLES ON THE HALF SHELL", TURTLE SOUP! ("WHAT A SNACK. JACK!")
WHEN THE EVIL SHREDDER'S HUNGRY,
THESE TURTLES BOYS, MAKE A YUMMY TREAT!

[BubblyShell22]

Man, you guys are so damn awesome. Good ones.

[Ryanator008]

Ooo. Do a 2003 one.

[TurtleMaster4]

Ooo. Do a 2003 one.

Teenage Normal Average Turtles
Turtles Counting off 1, 2 , 3, 4, (Turtles)

Unmutatant chain reaction (Turtles!)
Living in a cage (Turtles)
Celery Eating Action (Turtles)
It’s the smell of the Jar

Turtles Count it off!

1. Lie by the artificial palm tree
2. Never poop unless, someone else starts
3. Always stick together cause we’re stuck in a Jar
4. If all else fails then we let out a big fart!



And that’s all I got!

[snake]

^
Krang, get on that like button :P

[TurtleMaster4]

^
Krang, get on that like button :P

There's a like button coming! Oh man I can't wait! My life isn't complete till we have one!

[snake]

There's a like button coming! Oh man I can't wait! My life isn't complete till we have one!

Uh...Yeah....Its coming..Soon, just wait for it.....Soon. ;)

[JTH]

Teenage Normal Average Turtles
Turtles Counting off 1, 2 , 3, 4, (Turtles)

Unmutatant chain reaction (Turtles!)
Living in a cage (Turtles)
Celery Eating Action (Turtles)
It’s the smell of the Jar

Turtles Count it off!

1. Lie by the artificial palm tree
2. Never poop unless, someone else starts
3. Always stick together cause we’re stuck in a Jar
4. If all else fails then we let out a big fart!



And that’s all I got!
http://doknowbutchie.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/the-kraang-03.jpeg
Kraang approves of the words that have been typed onto what is known as a computer that has been put into what is known as a "song".

Kraang feels the urge to "Bust a Move".

[snake]

We better stop before the mods get us :shifty:

[Ryanator008]

We better stop before the mods get us :shifty:

They'll never take us alive!

[pingclang]

These made my day so much better, thanks guys.

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome 2K3 version. That was freakin' great.

[raph27]

Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Turtles in a Glass Cage, Normal Turtles
Here we go it's the lean green turtle team
On the scene normal turtles doin normal things
So normal in the bowl like the other pets
Get bored when they do really nothing actually
Can buy these pretty normal dudes
Pay $19.99 and take home the chosen few
All they really do is sleep all day
The pet store wins and you feel cheated
(Soothing music)
Leonardo, the fat green one, does anything it takes to eat that leaf
Donatello is the fellow, he likes sleeping
Raphael is the most grumpy one on the team
Michelangelo, he's one of a kind, he actually walks around the cage
They don't need to be taught, don't do anything
Except eat sleep and poop
TEENAGE NORMAL AVERAGE TURTLES
TEENAGE NORMAL AVERAGE TURTLES
TEENAGE NORMAL AVERAGE TURTLES
don't step in that green ooze!
NORMAL TURTLES!
:tlol::tlol::tlol: that took a long time to write

[Ryanator008]

Somebooby do a FF one.

[turtletoons81]

guy's come on now let's get back on topic this is about a topic of whether the retro-mutagen will work or not also speaking of retro mutagen i saw a sneak peek of it (at the nycc 2013 oct 14 it's on youtube btw) where mikey used it and it causes him to have acne strange but funny and donatello tell's him that he'll become more uglier after the affects starts to come

[Ryanator008]

guy's come on now let's get back on topic this is about a topic of whether the retro-mutagen will work or not also speaking of retro mutagen i saw a sneak peek of it (at the nycc 2013 oct 14 it's on youtube btw) where mikey used it and it causes him to have acne strange but funny and donatello tell's him that he'll become more uglier after the affects starts to come

Killjoy. :tgrumble:

[blindturtle02]

I saw that acne bit from the NYC panel. I wonder if Don was telling Mikey the truth about it,"spreading and spreading and spreading," or if that bit might have been a fib in order to keep Mikey out of his lab in the future. He'll probably develop a treatment or whatever by episode's end. Don seemed to enjoy giving him the bad news a little too much! At least that's what I gathered from his tone of voice. So it's possible that Don's pulling a prank on Mikey in terms of how serious this condition is.

[BubblyShell22]

Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Turtles in a Glass Cage, Normal Turtles
Here we go it's the lean green turtle team
On the scene normal turtles doin normal things
So normal in the bowl like the other pets
Get bored when they do really nothing actually
Can buy these pretty normal dudes
Pay $19.99 and take home the chosen few
All they really do is sleep all day
The pet store wins and you feel cheated
(Soothing music)
Leonardo, the fat green one, does anything it takes to eat that leaf
Donatello is the fellow, he likes sleeping
Raphael is the most grumpy one on the team
Michelangelo, he's one of a kind, he actually walks around the cage
They don't need to be taught, don't do anything
Except eat sleep and poop
TEENAGE NORMAL AVERAGE TURTLES
TEENAGE NORMAL AVERAGE TURTLES
TEENAGE NORMAL AVERAGE TURTLES
don't step in that green ooze!
NORMAL TURTLES!
:tlol::tlol::tlol: that took a long time to write

Wow. That's hilarious. Good one.

And, yeah, I think Don just loves badgering Mikey too much. Can't wait to see the acne and all of that later though. Should be funny.

[victory_angel]

That also could be Donnie teaching Mikey a lesson about taking things from his lab. After all since it's a kids show they aren't going to have Mikey taking something that will kill him. But still Donnie does have a medical kit where he does have "Don't touch, Mikey!" written on it so apparently that is still possible.

[Leo656]

Tangents that go wildly off-topic is what makes the 'Drome what it is. We should embrace these moments.

"Get bored when they do really nothing actually." I don't know why the hell that's so funny to me. :lol:

Putting things back on topic is boring and I'll have no part of it.

[snake]

Tangents that go wildly off-topic is what makes the 'Drome what it is. We should embrace these moments.

"Get bored when they do really nothing actually." I don't know why the hell that's so funny to me. :lol:

Putting things back on topic is boring and I'll have no part of it.

Each thread is like another forum. OFFTOPIC-4-LYFE!!111!1!1!1

[Ryanator008]

Each thread is like another forum. OFFTOPIC-4-LYFE!!111!1!1!1

Deep in the Techodrome, 5 teenagers will form an alliance against the people that take things way too seriously. They are the Power Rangers Offtopicforceforce.

[BubblyShell22]

Yes, Rage against the machine!

[Cryomancer]

Un-mutate Shredder's henchmen. They were better used in the show while they were human. It's also a decent tactical move on the turtles' part to do so. They'd lose whatever extra power they had from being mutated and also now possibly feel like they owe the turtles a favor.

[Discogod]

Un-mutate Shredder's henchmen. They were better used in the show while they were human. It's also a decent tactical move on the turtles' part to do so. They'd lose whatever extra power they had from being mutated and also now possibly feel like they owe the turtles a favor.

Or possibly hate the Turtles even more since they would essentially be stripping them of their power. That could set up an arc where Shredder/The Kraang remutate them, whether back into their previous forms, or into new, more dangerous incarnations...

[Cryomancer]

Do you think they would prefer to be monsters that can't live normal lives but are maybe stronger or be humans who can still go outside when they want? They were both skilled human fighters already, so it's not like they were hurting for strength in particular.

Hell, they don't even seem like they have their human skills at all anymore. The robot feet are about the only part that seems like skilled fighting post-mutation.

[JTH]

Yes, I want a demutate story:

(Starts Singing)
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Turtles is a glass bowl, NORMAL TURTLES!

Here we go with some Run-of-the-mill turtles
So weak, less water power than a Squirtle
Can't run, jump, fight, or even hurdle
Let alone, be a powerful Ninja Turtle

Can't watch these pitiful dudes
The Secret of the Ooze, Hey I watched that too!
Too slow in the shadows, to make a move
The bad guys win, so no hope for YOU!

Leonardo's the loser in blue
Does anything it takes to be a boring dude.
Donatello's back is yellow, he's afraid of a flea.
Raphael's the most normal guy on the team.

Michelangelo's, got nowhere to go.
And you know just to find him cause he lives in a bowl.
Hamato Yoshi goes and buys everything that they need
To be one bleak, weak, meek, pitiful team.

Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Turtles is a glass bowl, NORMAL TURTLES!

[BabyTurtles]

like others have said I think Donnie is gonna teach Mikey a lesson XD if he was really turning into a monster Don would be more serious XD


also....awesome songs guys! :lol:

[BubblyShell22]

Awesome song, JTH. I don't think anyone can top that.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Deep in the Techodrome, 5 teenagers will form an alliance against the people that take things way too seriously. They are the Power Rangers Offtopicforceforce.

I really want to see that!:tgrin:

[TurtleTitan97]

Yes, I want a demutate story:

(Starts Singing)
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Turtles is a glass bowl, NORMAL TURTLES!

Here we go with some Run-of-the-mill turtles
So weak, less water power than a Squirtle
Can't run, jump, fight, or even hurdle
Let alone, be a powerful Ninja Turtle

Can't watch these pitiful dudes
The Secret of the Ooze, Hey I watched that too!
Too slow in the shadows, to make a move
The bad guys win, so no hope for YOU!

Leonardo's the loser in blue
Does anything it takes to be a boring dude.
Donatello's back is yellow, he's afraid of a flea.
Raphael's the most normal guy on the team.

Michelangelo's, got nowhere to go.
And you know just to find him cause he lives in a bowl.
Hamato Yoshi goes and buys everything that they need
To be one bleak, weak, meek, pitiful team.

Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Teenage Average Normal Turtles
Turtles is a glass bowl, NORMAL TURTLES!
X:tlol: Nice

[LeotheLateBloomer]

If Don can manage to get this to work, he could possibly de-mutate Kirby and Tim back to normal. It's even possible that he might be able to change every other mutant that changed into a mutant back to normal so him and his brothers won't have to deal with them anymore, *keeps fingers cross for Baxter*.

Obviously Splinter will decide on staying a rat as it has help him in his fight against the Shredder.

[Utromshredderhater]

Maybe the Retro Mutagen Ray

[Cipher]

I can certainly see it becoming a weapon of the Kraang or Shredder for the season climax. Seems like a fairly natural way to take things, and it's kind of the perfect '87 homage, wherein a Retro-Mutagen gun was also the Shredder's final weapon in the original miniseries.

[MikeandRaph87]

It just occured to me, we saw a build up with both Chris Bradford and Xever as humans for a few episodes and some myself included particularlly for Bradford that he serves a better purpose as a human( not to mention his fame would cause people to look for him) so perhaps they would be returned to human form and have someone like Tiger Claw take their place. There is also the talk that Bebop and Rocksteady might appear. With retro mutagen we may see both Chris and Xever return to human form. What do you all think?

[BubblyShell22]

The only way that would happen is if Shredder got a hold of the retro mutagen or if Chris or Xever somehow found it and used it. Not sure if that will play out or not, but we'll have to see.

[MikeandRaph87]

The only way that would happen is if Shredder got a hold of the retro mutagen or if Chris or Xever somehow found it and used it. Not sure if that will play out or not, but we'll have to see.

We all thought that Shredder would mutate them to strengthen his forces but it was an accident that Bradford caused in attempt to escape a stalemate. Kirby O'Neil was likewise unintentionally mutated. They could always be at the right place at the right time and get hit. It depends on the direction that Nick is going. The creators may want to keep them around as human while moving in another pair to thake their place as the mutant enforcers of the Foot. More toys that way and more characters in the picture as well.

[victory_angel]

Well so far Donnie is has had an unknown number of failed attempts and no successes. And more then likely the time he does succeed at making it is the time they will need it most.

[MikeandRaph87]

Chris Beadford and Xever, especially Chris wants to return to human form. I can see them doing so at season's end due to thier desire to return being shown in the latest episode. Not to mention with Dogpound's further mutation. Not sure how that works esepcially since it just happened.

[BabyTurtles]

Chris Beadford and Xever, especially Chris wants to return to human form. I can see them doing so at season's end due to thier desire to return being shown in the latest episode. Not to mention with Dogpound's further mutation. Not sure how that works esepcially since it just happened.

I don't think Bradford wants to be human anymore....he seemed to like being Rahzar

[MikeandRaph87]

I don't think Bradford wants to be human anymore....he seemed to like being Rahzar

He hated being bulky and unable to be a ninja. He did mention that he felt like a ninja again. If Fishface wants to be human again on his own instead of agreeing with Bradford and expresses it afterwards I can see it happening to both not just the one. Besdies for me personally, I would rather see Chris Bradford in Dogpound's place. I have to admit I was surprised by a further mutation of Bradford. Further mutations have been toyed with in the past but nothing was ever permanent.

It also look like next time we see Baxter he will be punished with a mutation.