Beetlejuice 2

[Raph's Girl]

It's coming...with Michael Keaton back in the role. Tim Burton is close to signing on as director..

http://www.thewrap.com/tim-burton-talks-direct-michael-keaton-beetlejuice-2-warner-bros/

[Leo656]

Ack. Hopefully it WON'T be at all connected with the "Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian" script that's been floating around since 5 minutes after the first movie came out. Not only was that stupid, it essentially copied the first one entirely, just in Hawaii. Sad Fact: Originally, the entire point of a Beetlejuice sequel was 100% to have an extended Wynona Ryder Bikini Scene, and that's all. And while I'd definitely have welcomed that then, and may be up for it now, it's about 20 years past the selling point.

I do hope she's in the sequel, though. If they come up with something entirely different from the one they've wanted to do for 20 years, it could be OK. I do love that movie, but there's really no strong reason to revisit it, it stands on its own. I kind of feel like a sequel would immediately become a parody of itself, like "Wayne's World 2." Yeah, it has its moments, but it really doesn't hold up at all to the first. Beetlejuice is so great, I can't see a sequel coming even close. Guess we'll see.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Would be interesting to see a sequel. It's not like he "died" in the first movie, though it's implied but he's shown more or less fine at the end

[rip32zity]

I think it would actually be great just as long as tim burton is in it. Would be great for kids in this era to see something similar to what we saw but with a different twist and more cgi. But great idea in my mind

[Sage Ninja]

so it is a sequel, not a reboot?

[chrisdude]

It could be cool. I do hope it's a new story, though, and not just Beetlejuice with a new family or whatever. I'm curious to see if they get Alec Baldwin, Geena Davis and Winona Ryder back.

[Andrew NDB]

I could see them going the "Drop Dead Fred" route... Wynona Ryder's character as an adult, still being bugged by Beetlejuice at inopportune times. I doubt they'll ground the movie at the same house and I kind of doubt we'd see the Baldwin/Davis ghosts again.

[rip32zity]

I wonder if the movie would start off with him having that shrunken head? Just the same way it left off. And i hope they dont bring back alec or davis.

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder if the movie would start off with him having that shrunken head?

I doubt that would even be addressed.

[CyberCubed]

Why on earth do they keep making sequels of movies from 20 years ago? When has this ever worked?

[Andrew NDB]

Why on earth do they keep making sequels of movies from 20 years ago? When has this ever worked?

It worked in "The Color of Money." It worked in Rambo 4. It worked in Rocky Balboa. It arguably worked in Tron Legacy.

[Leo656]

Part of me feels like it should be entirely its own thing and not address anything from the first movie too closely, if at all. For one, a long enough time has passed that your mind could just make up whatever's happened to get from then to now. Secondly, Beetlejuice is less about story (although the story is great) and more about being simultaneously hilarious and creepy/bizarre as f*ck. You could do that a million ways with a million characters.

On the other hand, I really love to see Wynona Ryder in anything and I think she needs the money. I would not be sad if she was in it.

[Raven]

The title is misleading, Michael Keaton has not officially signed on. Its just as much a rumor as Burton directing at this point.

Even in the article you link to it says that he is in talks to reprise the role, theres no signed papers yet.

[Wildcat]

Cool i haven't seen the first in years but I used the watch the cartoon all the time.

[AT-Man]

I want Otho back!

edit: whoops, I just went to wiki and saw the actor died a few years back. Nevermind then.

[Andrew NDB]

Confirmed to be dead again:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/dont-expect-a-beetlejuice-sequel-anymore/

[oldmanwinters]

Confirmed to be dead again:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/dont-expect-a-beetlejuice-sequel-anymore/

When has being dead ever stopped Beetlejuice? :tlol:

[Andrew NDB]

True. :)

It's sad to me, as this is the only Burton movie I'm really interested in seeing. Instead, next it will be "Tim Burton's Pinocchio" or something.

[The Deadman]

Shame. I was looking forward to this, actually.

[drgon78]

Well that is really disappointing to hear.

[sdp]

A shame, I really thought it'd be more likely now than ever but the first is great and doesn't need a sequel so I guess it's not the end of the world..

I'm up for it no matter how disappointing it would likely be, as long as we get some fun clips out of the movie I'd feel satisfied.

[Autbot_Benz]

DiscussingFilm
@DiscussingFilm
‘BEETLEJUICE 2’ is moving forward with Michael Keaton & Winona Ryder reprising their roles.

Brad Pitt will produce the film through his production company Plan B with hopes to begin filming this Summer.

(Source: https://theankler.com/p/the-war-to-play-madonna?utm_source=urlEXCLUSIVE)

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1498388503280951302

[drgon78]

Cool, but is Tim Burton still directing?

[Andrew NDB]

Ehh... that source article looks dodgy there. But Brad Pitt's production company helping a Beetlejuice 2 get off the ground is so off the wall that it just might be true.

[NinjaPug]

That report is legit. Trades are confirming it. Doesn't mean it'll actually happen though.

[Leo656]

This is because I made a joke about it last week.

I'm telling you, the universe f*cking hates me.

[Wildcat]

I never saw the whole first movie. Just parts in passing. I watched the cartoon a lot. Nice to see they’re making a sequel though.

[Leo656]

No it's not, it's dumb and there's zero f*cking point.

It's just a double-fisted cash-in on "20+ Years Too Late Sequels" and "People Remembered That Michael Keaton Is Still Alive" both being a trend at the moment. It's f*cking stupid.

[Coola Yagami]

They'll have to do heavy make up and de-aging CGI to explain how a damn ghost somehow got old.

[Andrew NDB]

They'll have to do heavy make up and de-aging CGI to explain how a damn ghost somehow got old.

What are you talking about? They have to do neither of those things. Well, they'd already be doing heavy makeup because Beetlejuice calls for heavy makeup. Throw a wig on him and done. He'd look almost exactly the same.

[Leo656]

Is he still gonna be trying to get all rapey on Lydia? Or are they gonna lean into the cartoon vibe and have it be like she's into him too, just since it's less problematic that way?

Of all the movies that ever got a kids' spin-off, that's one of the weirdest. "Let's take the creepy rape ghost and the underage girl who's clearly not into it, and have them be Best Pals and go on adventures. For the kids!"

Great movie, pretty fun cartoon. But in retrospect: Holy Sh*t.

[Andrew NDB]

Of all the movies that ever got a kids' spin-off, that's one of the weirdest. "Let's take the creepy rape ghost and the underage girl who's clearly not into it, and have them be Best Pals and go on adventures. For the kids!"

Great movie, pretty fun cartoon. But in retrospect: Holy Sh*t.

Yeah, that was really weird.

[Leo656]

I'd like a more "faithful" Adult Swim reboot of the cartoon that was kinda halfway in-between the movie and the original cartoon.

Like they're "pals" and go on adventures, and outwardly he's a "Nice Guy"... but secretly he's exactly the same scumbag he was in the movie, and he's constantly trying to stick it in her butt and she just never notices. That could be funny.

[Wildcat]

He’s a ghoul or whatever you wanna call him. No de-aging necessary.

It’s not too late to make a sequel either. It’s a dark comedy with monsters and the undead. As long he’s able and wants to do it what’s the problem?

[Coola Yagami]

Idk.... didn't he just want to marry her so he can break the Beetlejuice curse (or whatever that was) so he could always cause mischief in the real world without being summoned away by his own name? I never really saw him as being eager to 'consummate his vows' with her. He mostly likely would have kicked her to the curb once his curse was broken. Maybe cause Lydia was young at the time but I don't remember anything like him checking her out or making jokes about how he's gonna **** her hard on the honeymoon or anything like that. I mean, if anything, he was trying to peak under the dress of the wife character.

[Leo656]

He’s a ghoul or whatever you wanna call him. No de-aging necessary.

It’s not too late to make a sequel either. It’s a dark comedy with monsters and the undead. As long he’s able and wants to do it what’s the problem?


The same reason it never got made for 30 years: They thought about it multiple times, realized that there was literally no story they could tell that wasn't completely f*cking stupid, and said "Yeah, let's not bother."

There's STILL no story they could tell that wouldn't be stupid. It's just "Oh, okay, Keaton clearly doesn't care anymore since he's old and just wants to pad his nest egg, so now we can probably talk him into it." That's the only reason this is happening. They just had to wait him out until he got too old to have any integrity, which happens to most people.

It's not just because it's been three decades, that's only part of it. They decided all the way back in 1991 that a sequel was a terrible idea. And they were correct.

As Carlin once said, "Not every ejaculation needs a name." You need to stop with this "Every idea anyone ever had deserves a budget and a release date" bullsh*t, man. I'm begging you.

[Andrew NDB]

Well, I'd really love to be excited about a Tim Burton movie again. This would be about the only new one that would do that.

And maybe it ends up sucking but maybe it ends up it doesn't.

[Wildcat]

The same reason it never got made for 30 years: They thought about it multiple times, realized that there was literally no story they could tell that wasn't completely f*cking stupid, and said "Yeah, let's not bother."

There's STILL no story they could tell that wouldn't be stupid. It's just "Oh, okay, Keaton clearly doesn't care anymore since he's old and just wants to pad his nest egg, so now we can probably talk him into it." That's the only reason this is happening. They just had to wait him out until he got too old to have any integrity, which happens to most people.

It's not just because it's been three decades, that's only part of it. They decided all the way back in 1991 that a sequel was a terrible idea. And they were correct.

As Carlin once said, "Not every ejaculation needs a name." You need to stop with this "Every idea anyone ever had deserves a budget and a release date" bullsh*t, man. I'm begging you.So Michael Keaton is only doing stuff for the money now? That’s funny. Like he needs Batman and Beetlejuice to save his career or something.

That’s such a silly argument every time someone makes it about an older movie star. I see it every so often too. There’s nothing wrong with him playing these characters again for the fun of it. There’s nothing wrong with anyone doing it.

No Story was said about GB3 too. I remember hearing that on TV. It was way back in the 90s when the rights stuff must have started.

Technically there’s no point for any sequel to exist. What about Chucky? If we’re being objective he probably should have been defeated in part 3 after getting ripped to pieces but Bride worked. Any remains are enough.

[Leo656]

I'm guessing you think Dennis Hopper did "Super Mario Bros." because he liked the script. Or that Raul Julia played M. Bison in Street Fighter because he thought it would be a great career move.

NO, god dammit, they were old and on the way out. Julia was literally dying and only did that movie because his kid liked the game and he knew it would be his last paycheck so he could leave behind a bit more money for the kid.

When people get old, they stop giving a sh*t. The residuals from movies made decades ago starts to dry up, and medical bills start to mount. Your "artistic integrity" starts to mean less than the possibility of them having to bury you in a pauper's grave. So you start saying "yes" to things that you spent your whole life saying "no" to, because you figure people will understand the circumstances.

But it doesn't make them GOOD movies, and the aging actors in question completely understand that.

Michael Keaton is 70 years old. Do I think he's suddenly playing Batman and Beetlejuice again because he realizes he's close to the finish line and may as well pad his pension since nobody can rightly judge him for it anymore? Yes. 100%. 10 or 20 years ago, he would absolutely not be involved in any of this stuff. It's come up, he always said no. That right there is proof.



Technically there’s no point for any sequel to exist.

That's correct. And 99% of them are awful. See? Way to prove my point.

Movies are made for Art and Money. Sequels are made for Just Money. Inherently, they're conceived in sin. That doesn't by default make them bad, BUT it means that they're already planting roots in poison soil from the inception. It's "More for the sake of More", not because they actually have anything new or relevant to say.

A sequel to a 30+ year old movie? DEFINITELY greed. Every time. The entire hook is, "BOY, you never thought you'd see THIS, huh?!" That's literally the entire point, the fact that everyone thought it was impossible because if there was any point it would've happened ages ago. That's not good. :lol: And a few of them turned out decent! But that's by accident.

I'm not sure you really "get" how Hollywood works, my son.

Then again - and I say this with all due respect, and I actually think you're an okay person - but you like a TON of terrible movies.

[Wildcat]

I'm guessing you think Dennis Hopper did "Super Mario Bros." because he liked the script. Or that Raul Julia played M. Bison in Street Fighter because he thought it would be a great career move.

NO, god dammit, they were old and on the way out. Julia was literally dying and only did that move because his kid liked the game and he knew it would be his last paycheck so he could leave behind a bit more money for the kid.

When people get old, they stop giving a sh*t. The residuals from movies made decades ago starts to dry up, and medical bills start to mount. Your "artistic integrity" starts to mean less than the possibility of them having to bury you in a pauper's grave. So you start saying "yes" to things that you spent your whole life saying "no" to, because you figure people will understand the circumstances.

But it doesn't make them GOOD movies, and the aging actors in question completely understand that.

Michael Keaton is 70 years old. Do I think he's suddenly playing Batman and Beetlejuice again because he realizes he's close to the finish line and may as well pad his pension since nobody can rightly judge him for it anymore? Yes. 100%. 10 or 20 years ago, he would absolutely not be involved in any of this stuff. It's come up, he always said no. That right there is proof.



That's correct. And 99% of them are awful. See? Way to prove my point.

Movies are made for Art and Money. Sequels are made for Just Money. Inherently, they're conceived in sin. That doesn't by default make them bad, BUT it means that they're already planting roots in poison soil from the inception. It's "More for the sake of More", not because they actually have anything new or relevant to say.

A sequel to a 30+ year old movie? DEFINITELY greed. Every time. The entire hook is, "BOY, you never thought you'd see THIS, huh?!" That's literally the entire point, the fact that everyone thought it was impossible because if there was any point it would've happened ages ago. That's not good. :lol: And a few of them turned out decent! But that's by accident.

I'm not sure you really "get" how Hollywood works, my son.

Then again - and I say this with all due respect, and I actually think you're an okay person - but you like a TON of terrible movies.No offense taken. That’s a really cynical view on all that though. I know sometimes actors do certain roles for certain reasons.

As for Michael Keaton I haven’t kept up with it so I don’t know how against it he was 10-20 years ago.

I just think he’s returning for the fun of it since he’s done what he wanted otherwise and he knows fans are into it...that does not equal nest egg/loss of integrity. Just revisiting them.

He still does other movies. You’re making it sound like he wants a career lift and suddenly changed his mind for attention. It’s 2 roles and Batman is obviously very popular.

[Leo656]

It's cynical AND true.

Keaton has been asked to do both Batman and Beetlejuice, more than once, going alllll the way back to the last time he did either. It's always been, "I don't see any point, I think it would just hurt the image people have of the originals, sequels by definition are hard to make any good, they're always just about the money," etc. etc. etc. Those are things he's said, and often.

I mean look at his entire career, he's almost never even done any sequels, because as a rule he doesn't like them. "Batman Returns" was one of the only ones he ever did and it wasn't a great experience for him, so he took the opportunity to bow out of the third one after Schumacher came on. He already wasn't interested, but when Joel came on and tried to turn the entire thing into a giant neon nightmare, Keaton said "Yeah, nah, no more." That was the final straw, but he already had said he had huge reservations. He had huge reservations about doing the SECOND one, let alone any more.

Then at other times, he said "I *might* be up for another swing at Batman, but ONLY if Tim Burton did it." News Flash: Tim Burton is NOT making the Flash movie OR the Batgirl movie. So obviously, $omething ha$ changed, and he'$ Batman again for other rea$on$.

As for Beetlejuice, for a VERY long time WB only had one script for that - "Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian" - and people who have seen said script say that it was the exact same movie as the first one... except on a beach. If that sounds good to you, then please never talk about movies again. Please.

I doubt they'll go with THAT awful script, don't get me wrong. My point is, for like 20 years THAT was the "best" idea they ever had for a Beetlejuice sequel. You trust THOSE people? I don't. Like yeah, it'll most likely be a different script, but that doesn't mean it will be crafted with care or any good. It will probably just be a recycling of most of the familiar bits - the Calypso scene, the head-spinning, "Nice F*CKING model!" and all of that - with a different cast.

Keaton in-character as Beetlejuice will be a hoot, don't get me wrong. The movie surrounding it? If it's anything but "hot garbage" I will be f*cking SHOCKED.

[Andrew NDB]

Gotta say, all the pointing to the Beetlejuice Hawaii script seems a little dumb. Did Burton have anything to do with commissioning it? Because I suspect it's just like every 20 of the horrible TMNT scripts that thankfully never got made that Peter blocked but the studios commissioned. As in, indicative of cocaine and Hollywood and little else. Maybe they wanted to woo Burton at Burton's prime and of course he gave them the finger with such a thing.

You get people actually invested in the IP doing good scripts you can make something of it. You just saw that with GB Afterlife.

[Leo656]

My point is that for over two decades, for whatever reason, that was the "best" they could do. It exposes how creatively bankrupt the brain trust is over there.

And no, I am pretty sure Burton was not involved in that. They were hoping to do it with or without him and were prepared to do it without him. I haven't heard if he's signed on for this round or not. But if he doesn't, we've already seen, they have no serious problem doing it without him.

And even if he DOES sign on... that does NOT mean it will be "good". If you look at ALL of Burton's career, the guy's a f*cking hack who got lucky a couple of times. I'm f*cking saying it. He hasn't made an actual "good" movie since "Mars Attacks", for f*ck's sake. He went far past "self-parody" into "I'unno, I don't care, I gotta eat" territory f*cking forever ago, already. Most of his output from the last twenty years has been terrible.

So yeah, even if they do get to brag that "Beetlejuice 2: Coming From the Creative Genius Behind Dumbo and Planet of the Apes".... I STILL won't be impressed.

We'll see. Like I said, obviously they're not gonna use the old "Hawaii" script. But it just goes to show how little these people give a sh*t.

[Powder]

https://starsgab.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/157170383_2651570198467479_2254058197459187802_n.j pg

He better be in it.

[Leo656]

:lol::lol::lol:

I'll allow it if we get a Jeff Jarrett cameo, so as to reenact this classic moment:
https://c.tenor.com/CSie1P65aEIAAAAM/shummer-slap-nuts.gif

[Wildcat]

Ok see that was a long time ago and I understand not liking the direction at the time or not wanting to rely on sequels.

Michael Keaton’s Batman is coming back under new circumstances and other character’s stories. Beetlejuice will be developed differently too. I cannot believe he’s only doing it for money when he obviously does not need either one.

Harold Ramis did not like doing sequels but he said more than once he’d be willing to do GB3 if the idea was good. He didn’t seem very interested but it’s cool he was open to it. He mentioned doing it in part for Dan Aykroyd.

The implication should not be...they’re doing it for it money.

Things change, ideas come and go and they feel different.

Actually I’ve never thought ‘89 or Returns were very good but it’s cool to revisit that world with new characters. I liked the portrayal and his Batmobile.

[DarkFell]

:lol::lol::lol:

I'll allow it if we get a Jeff Jarrett cameo, so as to reenact this classic moment:
https://c.tenor.com/CSie1P65aEIAAAAM/shummer-slap-nuts.gif
Okay, that made me laugh. Thank you!

The ending of the first Beetlejuice movie left no mention of a sequel as Tim Burton wanted a one-and-done movie. Lydia Deets is happy with her poltergeist friends that even made her parents into happier people. BJ is waiting in line, cheats to get next in line, and pays the price for it.

That was it. No need for a sequel.

[Coola Yagami]

Okay, that made me laugh. Thank you!

The ending of the first Beetlejuice movie left no mention of a sequel as Tim Burton wanted a one-and-done movie. Lydia Deets is happy with her poltergeist friends that even made her parents into happier people. BJ is waiting in line, cheats to get next in line, and pays the price for it.

That was it. No need for a sequel.

Eh IDK. Lydia was still a kid then, or at least a teen. Like most movies or cartoons that deal with the premises of young characters having odd childhood friends that are monsters, ghosts or aliens, the question comes up about what happens when they're adults and those weird friends are still around.

How does adult Lydia deal living with ghosts of a married couple? How would Billy deal with still keeping Gizmo around as an adult. How about Brian, what if he got stuck looking after ALF in his adult years?

There is at least some potential there.

[mrmaczaps]

Eh IDK. Lydia was still a kid then, or at least a teen. Like most movies or cartoons that deal with the premises of young characters having odd childhood friends that are monsters, ghosts or aliens, the question comes up about what happens when they're adults and those weird friends are still around.

How does adult Lydia deal living with ghosts of a married couple? How would Billy deal with still keeping Gizmo around as an adult. How about Brian, what if he got stuck looking after ALF in his adult years?

There is at least some potential there.

Billy was an adult in 2, wasn't he? Lol

I'd really like to see another Gremlins & ALF movie or series, done correctly... :tlol:

[Coola Yagami]

Billy was an adult in 2, wasn't he? Lol

I'd really like to see another Gremlins & ALF movie or series, done correctly... :tlol:

Yeah but he lived his adulthood without Gizmo until he happened to run into him again. I think. Man it's been a while. How much time passed between Gremlins 1 and 2?

[mrmaczaps]

Yeah but he lived his adulthood without Gizmo until he happened to run into him again. I think. Man it's been a while. How much time passed between Gremlins 1 and 2?

No idea. I read the wiki entries for both and its not mentioned. It seems to be at least a couple years though. Doesn't seem like it could be too many years though.

[Autbot_Benz]

Wednesday star Jenna Ortega is looking to stay in the Tim Burton family. The actor is circling a role in Beetlejuice 2, multiple sources tell The Hollywood Reporter.

Warner Bros., which is behind the feature, was not available to comment. A representative for Ortega did not respond to requests for comment.

The news comes as Ortega hits theaters with Scream VI, which could land the top opening in the franchise’s 25-plus year history.

Tim Burton, who helmed the 1988 film starring Michael Keaton, is expected to direct, with Keaton returning as well, according to sources. Production is eying a late May or early June shoot in London, but budget has not been set, resulting in a back and forth. If a deal is made, sources say Ortega would play the daughter of Lydia, the character played by Winona Ryder in the original.


Jenna Ortega Gives Notes About 'Wednesday' Sketch Pitch in 'Saturday Night Live' Promo
Alec Baldwin, Geena Davis, Jeffrey Jordan, Catherine O’Hara also starred in the original film, which grossed $80 million on a $15 million budget and it scored a best makeup Oscar at the 1989 Academy Awards. The sequel has gone through various iterations over the years, with multiple writers coming and going and Burton himself publicly waffling over his own involvement.

Ortega, who most recently starred in Netflix’s Wednesday, also featuring direction by Burton, has said that she used to have “consistent dreams” about Beetlejuice when she was younger. The actor began her career with roles such as Young Jane on The CW’s Jane the Virgin, followed by parts in You and Yes Day. She starred in last year’s Scream reboot and also appeared in the horror hit X.

Ahead of Wednesday’s debut, Ortega told The Hollywood Reporter of working with Burton: “It’s been quite an insane experience. I’ve been lucky enough to get the opportunity to work with an iconic director who just so happens to be one of the sweetest directors I’ve worked with, and also the most detail-oriented.”

It’s a busy weekend for Ortega, who in addition to Scream VI has Saturday Night Live hosting duties. Ortega is repped by CAA, Gilbertson Entertainment and Jackoway Austen.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/jenna-ortega-beetlejuice-2-1235342774/

[Andrew NDB]

Elfman is excited to return and it's expected to start shooting in a couple of months:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/elfman-excited-about-beetlejuice-2-return/

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, holy cow. After all the years and rumors and FAKE scoops, it's really happening now. WB has announced its release date as September, 2024.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/beetlejuice-2-set-for-september-2024/

It'll be Burton's first movie since Dumbo.

[CyberCubed]

It's weird to me how Jenna Ortega really does look like she could be Winona Ryder's daughter. If you compare how Winona Ryder looked in 1988 and Jenna Ortega now...they look so similar.

It's funny how girls can exist decades apart for a younger generation and be like a "new version" of an older female actress.

[sdp]

Bettlejuice better be creeping on Jenna Ortega's character. "I keep getting older but they keep staying the same age". Or some line like that. That's who the character is. But the studio's won't have the guts to do it.

[Andrew NDB]

I have to wonder if the only reason this got greenlit is because Wednesday was a runaway hit and Jenna Ortega became white hot overnight.

[Sumac]

I have to wonder if the only reason this got greenlit is because Wednesday was a runaway hit and Jenna Ortega became white hot overnight.
Isn't Burton has something to do with Wednesday?

[Autbot_Benz]

More casting and a return


Film Updates
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Catherine O’Hara will return as Delia Deetz in ‘BEETLEJUICE 2’.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...-2-1235484497/ (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/monica-bellucci-beetlejuice-2-1235484497/)



DiscussingFilm
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Monica Bellucci has been cast as Beetlejuice’s wife in ‘BEETLEJUICE 2’.

(Source: https://hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/monica-bellucci-beetlejuice-2-1235484497/#recipient_hashed=4099e28fd37d67ae86c8ecfc73a6b7b6 52abdcdb75a184f8cf1f8015afde10e9&recipient_salt=f7bfecc7d62e4c672635670829cb8f9e0e2 053aced394fb57d9da6937cf0601a)

[Andrew NDB]

Hah, but no Jeffrey Jones as Charles Deetz (https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/natl-ferris-bueller-star-jeffrey-jones-pleads-guilty-in-sex-offender-case/1856712/), of course.

[Sumac]

Beetlejuice wife? Heh, guess she is gonna be a vamp who took complete control over goofy Bettlejuice's life and now he attempts to escape from her clutches.

Hah, but no Jeffrey Jones as Charles Deetz (https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/natl-ferris-bueller-star-jeffrey-jones-pleads-guilty-in-sex-offender-case/1856712/), of course.
Naturally.

[IMJ]

I can't wait to see this. I just think it's cool to see Michael Keaton doing comedy of some sort again.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Okay but seriously, who’d wanna marry a disgusting perv like Beetlejuice?!

Oh, right, goth chicks who shop at Hot Topic

[Andrew NDB]

Willem Dafoe is in as an afterlife law enforcement agent.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/willem-dafoe-joins-the-beetlejuice-sequel/

[IMJ]

Hah, but no Jeffrey Jones as Charles Deetz (https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/natl-ferris-bueller-star-jeffrey-jones-pleads-guilty-in-sex-offender-case/1856712/), of course.

Holeeeeee $#!( I didn't know about this. :lol::lol: WTF?!? :o

[Andrew NDB]

Shesus, it's already filming. I thought it was, like, just freshly greenlit and might start shooting this time next year.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseastewart/beetlejuice-2-set-photos-winona-ryder-lydia

[IMJ]

Okay but seriously, who’d wanna marry a disgusting perv like Beetlejuice?!

Oh, right, goth chicks who shop at Hot Topic

I think it's the same sort of joke as Morticia being with Gomez....

[oldmanwinters]

I think it's the same sort of joke as Morticia being with Gomez....

But Gomez is also financially loaded!

[Andrew NDB]

But Gomez is also financially loaded!

And Beetlejuice is the "ghost with the most."

[Vegita-San]

I think it's the same sort of joke as Morticia being with Gomez....

except, she's just as weird as he is, so that cancels anything else out.

[IMJ]

except, she's just as weird as he is, so that cancels anything else out.

Well that the point of that romance, I think. Monice Belluci could be playing a bizarre "winona ryder type" or even a ghost woman.

[Vegita-San]

this thread was started ten years ago. wonder what took so long?

[Andrew NDB]

this thread was started ten years ago. wonder what took so long?

If you look close at most of the Beetlejuice 2 "scoops" from the past 10 years nothing was ever remotely firm. And every time Burton was asked about Beetlejuice 2 he didn't know what they were talking about.

[IMJ]

this thread was started ten years ago. wonder what took so long?

The proper studio push. It's on their radar now with "nostalgia fever" combined with Keaton being back in the public eye as Batman.

[frank_one]

- The success of Wednesday
- The raising of Jenna Ortega
- Keaton back as Batman
Burton probably started to think about a new Beetlejuice for the first time while filming Wednesday. Every rumour we've heard in the past years was just wishful thinking and fake news.

[Sumac]

Burton's back in the public eye and money flow to him once more, I suppose.

[IMJ]

- The success of Wednesday
- The raising of Jenna Ortega
- Keaton back as Batman
Burton probably started to think about a new Beetlejuice for the first time while filming Wednesday.

Yeah there you go....

[Andrew NDB]

This is kinda cool. I didn't realize they were going to go as far as rebuilding the original house and the WHOLE TOWN.

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In fact, I was kind of assuming this would be set somewhere completely different.

[IMJ]

Oh wow....
Really neat that they are doing that. They could've just.... CGid a house and built interior sets.

My thing about real outdoor sets is that you can always tell - there is always some kind of folly difference or lack of how the voices carry or lack of wind and so on.

When they film at a real outdoor location it's always more valid on film, always.

[The Deadman]

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice 2024 A.D. is the official title
https://deadline.com/2024/02/beetlejuice-2-title-1235811127/

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/KYNNCO5.jpeg

[IMJ]

OMG the title of the movie is clever as hell! :lol:

[drgon78]

Now that is great.

[TheCanadiandrome]

lmao wow i love it

[Sabacooza]

With a title like that, they almost need a 3rd movie.

[XERO]

With a title like that, they almost need a 3rd movie.

Or call it Threetlejuice.

Either works. Haha.

[Andrew NDB]

How about BJ³?

[XERO]

Just don't Google that. :lol:

[IMJ]

With a title like that, they almost need a 3rd movie.

:lol::lol: I thought the same thing.... Now they have to do it.

[Sabacooza]

How about BJ³?The third Beetlejuice can be taped out with the number 3 over it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

do we think the cast has it in them to do one more after this? ain't getting any younger lol

[IMJ]

do we think the cast has it in them to do one more after this? ain't getting any younger lol

Not if they wait another 35 years they dont......

[TheCanadiandrome]

Not if they wait another 35 years they dont......
my point exactly, jeez luis lol

[XERO]

Not if they wait another 35 years they dont......

I would be amazed if they did.

I'd probably be dead to see it, either way, but... :lol:

[TheCanadiandrome]

I would be amazed if they did.

I'd probably be dead to see it, either way, but... :lol:

lol get ya some of the Book of the dead bro :lol:

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/oOgVtz3.jpg

[XERO]

Like he never left. Major props to the makeup department.

I can't wait for this movie.

[KROW]

I can't wait for this movie.

Me, either. With 80% of the cast returning, my interest is definitely piqued.

[Andrew NDB]

With 80% of the cast returning

And who knows, beyond the Lydia dad actor obviously having no chance of even having his likeness in it because of his child molesting (his character's death is probably what the vague story summary that's circulating is all about)... there could be surprises.

Like, if they're literally all going back to THAT HOUSE... why wouldn't the dead married couple still be there? It'd be weird if not.

[Autbot_Benz]

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The Juice is loose

[Zulithe]

I'm very happy with the teaser... hope the movie is good.

[Andrew NDB]

That's the perfect amount of "tease" in a teaser trailer. Nice.

[IMJ]

I bought the original on 4k to juice me up for this one. -ahem-

[XERO]

"What the F*CK is JUICE?!" - Dave Chappelle

I'm already in for this movie. LET'S GO.

[KROW]

Like, if they're literally all going back to THAT HOUSE... why wouldn't the dead married couple still be there? It'd be weird if not.

That would be nice, though with Alec Baldwin's recent turmoil, I don't know if he'd be available -- or even asked. And if Geena Davis only shows up, it'd just be awkward. Probably better to just have them explained away as, "moving on."

e6yDanmWI1E?si=9vtv-babX8e-LhaV

The Juice is loose

Well, I guess that answers what happened to Charles. Unless they throw a wringer and say it was Otho.

"What the F*CK is JUICE?!" - Dave Chappelle

I'm already in for this movie. LET'S GO.

"I want some of that purple stuff."

Man, might have to put a cool hundred aside to see this one.

[drgon78]

Well that is a teaser alright.

[Powder]

Fantastic teaser. Let's see if it's a fantastic flick.

[Autbot_Benz]

we already knew this but Geena Davis confirms she isn't in this

"No, I'm not. I'm not in the remake," Davis revealed. "Oh, you were expecting that I would be? Yeah, no, you know what? Because my theory is that ghosts don't age... Not that I have."

https://comicbook.com/horror/news/beetlejuice-geena-davis-barbara-confirms-wont-return-bot-in-sequel/

Also its a sequel Geena not a remake

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/VABWF9A.jpeg


Beetlejuice
@Beetlejuice
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We saved a seat for you. Trailer Thursday.

#Beetlejuice #Beetlejuice - Only in theaters September 6.

[drgon78]

Cool, a full trailer is on the way.

[Autbot_Benz]

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https://i.imgur.com/m02sMPG.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/BezLuTW.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/wKpGAaC.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/5AklXMA.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/sOlstA7.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/J7llq6k.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/jy1dAMi.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/9uTAstt.jpeg

[IMJ]

8):lol:

Wow - they even seem to have stuck with the same VFX style as the old - as if that is all in-universe rather than a product of it's time. That's awesome!

[Zulithe]

pretty happy with everything shown so far. Feels like they are doing an even better job than Ghostbusters Afterlife, which I thought was solid (didn't see the new one though that came out this year, so no comment)

[Andrew NDB]

Hah, even the Shinker is back? I didn't think we were going to get an on-screen explanation of how Beetlejuice's head got un-shrunk but now I think we're going to get one.

[Powder]

8):lol:

Wow - they even seem to have stuck with the same VFX style as the old - as if that is all in-universe rather than a product of it's time. That's awesome!

THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE!!!

Looks FANTASTIC. Defies my expectations. I can't wait.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Is it just me, or does the animation look rather…cheaply made?

[Andrew NDB]

Is it just me, or does the animation look rather…cheaply made?

It's definitely by design.

[XERO]

I am so excited. I'm definitely getting tickets soon as they're available.

[IMJ]

Is it just me, or does the animation look rather…cheaply made?

That's the point Powder and I were making in the post immediately above yours - they are going for that design as an extension of the "universe". it's an intentional throwback! 8)

[drgon78]

Looks good to me, can't wait to see it.

[Wildcat]

I just watched the first one. I had never seen it only clips. I did not like it as much as I thought I would. It’s cool but I expected it to be somewhat different. I thought Beetlejuice was gonna be more of a factor.

I liked the cartoon but don’t remember much of it. Just that Beetlejuice and Lydia were friends which is completely different than the movies.

The new trailer looks good. Ya the aesthetic is the same but the quality/execution is definitely better. Especially the sand worm stuff. Everything in the first comes off very dated. Plenty of movies had better effects back then but I see it was really low budget.

[Andrew NDB]

The only thing that makes my eye go even a little bit "eh" is the plane crash. Like, IS that 3D/CGI? If it is it's very poor, and if they are doing ANY of that in this, it should be top notch. For those 2 seconds I'm reminded of the end scene in "Air Force One." And if that shot was like a WIP, then why even include it? It adds nothing to the trailer beyond "Wow, a plane crash!" I guess maybe it's how the pedophile actor's character died?

[Coola Yagami]

The only thing that makes my eye go even a little bit "eh" is the plane crash. Like, IS that 3D/CGI? If it is it's very poor, and if they are doing ANY of that in this, it should be top notch. For those 2 seconds I'm reminded of the end scene in "Air Force One." And if that shot was like a WIP, then why even include it? It adds nothing to the trailer beyond "Wow, a plane crash!" I guess maybe it's how the pedophile actor's character died?

I lost track of that drama. Which actor was this?

Also in a movie like Beetlejuice where they visit the world of the dead, killing the actor would have given him even more of a screen presence. Like if anything, it would create the extra plothole of why he isn't a factor when they go to the world of the dead. Shoulda had him just leave town or whatever in between movies.

[Autbot_Benz]

I lost track of that drama. Which actor was this?



Jeffery Jones he played the Principal in Ferris Buller's Day off and Charles Deetz in Beetlejuice

[Coola Yagami]

Jeffery Jones he played the Principal in Ferris Buller's Day off and Charles Deetz in Beetlejuice

Ah, thats even more awkward. Shoulda just recast. Wouldn't Lydia want to see her father again in the afterlife? Plothole.

[Mayhem]

Ah, thats even more awkward. Shoulda just recast. Wouldn't Lydia want to see her father again in the afterlife? Plothole.
We have no idea, yet, over the circumstances of his death, and his relation with his family since the last film. Maybe the plot is about Astrid wanting to see him? Hence going against her mother’s wishes to not call Beetlejuice. Now Lydia hasn’t married (or at least never took a name) and neither has Astrid either.

[Andrew NDB]

Ah, thats even more awkward. Shoulda just recast. Wouldn't Lydia want to see her father again in the afterlife? Plothole.

They don't HAVE to have mom and dad in this. Probably he died with no unfinished business and went straight to the Beetlejuice version of Heaven... not stuck in all the sort of purgatories we see in the first movie. And if they somehow punish the character for the actions of the actor in the story... as in, "Oops! I guess he went to Hell!" because the character did something horrible or something, I don't think I'd like that. That's not how film should work. Punishing characters because of IRL people that played them in the past. Like over in STD, with them having Icheb (played by a different actor, of course) tortured, his eye pulled out and killed because the actor who played him in Voyager committed the crime of being an open Republican.

[Wildcat]

I noticed the cartoon streams on Freevee the other day. I hadn’t seen it since the 90s. I watched a good handful of episodes.

It kind of holds up. It relies way too much on references and puns. Like every single joke Beetlejuice does is a pun...whatever the line is or whatever just happened he’ll turn into an object and/or say something to make it a pun. Like literally everything.

[Coola Yagami]

I noticed the cartoon streams on Freevee the other day. I hadn’t seen it since the 90s. I watched a good handful of episodes.

It kind of holds up. It relies way too much on references and puns. Like every single joke Beetlejuice does is a pun...whatever the line is or whatever just happened he’ll turn into an object and/or say something to make it a pun. Like literally everything.

That was the thing with him in the cartoon. There was an episode where some bad guys got together and used that against him. They tricked him into saying something like 'I'm falling to pieces' and they all ran off with his body parts.

[Wildcat]

That was the thing with him in the cartoon. There was an episode where some bad guys got together and used that against him. They tricked him into saying something like 'I'm falling to pieces' and they all ran off with his body parts.Some puns are actually funny when he’s not forcing them by turning into something.

I used to love the cartoon. I watched it all the time. It’s not bad it’s just not as good as I remember.

[Autbot_Benz]

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https://i.imgur.com/PmvVEaF.jpeg

[drgon78]

Great trailer, I can't wait to see this movie.

[Andrew NDB]

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This is going to be a great marketing campaign.

[Cowabung-Gal]

So apparently Keaton said that Beetlejuice shouldn’t try to be politically correct as that would deviate from his true character.

Any normal person would agree, but the thought police…not so much. I can see the headlines now: “BEETLEJUICE 2 is mediocre at best” “BEETLEJUICE 2 uses outdated humor” “Perhaps Beetlejuice should’ve stayed in his grave”. The so-called “critics” are gonna spit on this for sure.

[Andrew NDB]

So apparently Keaton said that Beetlejuice shouldn’t try to be politically correct as that would deviate from his true character.

He says that but I doubt the movie will go out of its way to BE politically incorrect, either.

[Autbot_Benz]

Reviews are out today and they are positive calling it a worthy sequel to the original

[Andrew NDB]

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Pre-Beetlejuice... Beetlejuice?

[sdp]

Looks like a rehash, I think I'd rather have gotten whatever Beetlejuice goes hawaiian was meant to be.

[IndigoErth]

Saw it this afternoon. Was... okay.

I feel like they tried to squeeze in too many small plots rather than focusing on one really solid one, and was very Lydia (and her daughter) centric while Beetlejuice felt more like a side character imo.

The lip-syncing songs was weird. Maybe it was inspired by the musical being a thing.

[Zulithe]

I have tickets for Sunday.

[Coola Yagami]

Saw it this afternoon. Was... okay.

I feel like they tried to squeeze in too many small plots rather than focusing on one really solid one, and was very Lydia (and her daughter) centric while Beetlejuice felt more like a side character imo.

The lip-syncing songs was weird. Maybe it was inspired by the musical being a thing.

To be fair, Beetlejuice was kind of a side character in the first one too. The movie was way more about that married couple and Lydia. Beetlejuice didn't become a character til the third act of that one.

[IndigoErth]

True, though he at least still feels like a major character in conjunction to the Maitland's experience of death.

His own plot in this one could have had more done with it, imo. Trying not to say too much though. It wasn't bad, just not all that I'd hoped after avoiding trailers. Some of you guys might like it just fine.


Edit: I will say I really loved the recreation of the sets, esp those eerie afterlife hallways and waiting room where the dead go to cross over.

[Andrew NDB]

Looks like a rehash, I think I'd rather have gotten whatever Beetlejuice goes hawaiian was meant to be.

You would.

[XERO]

I enjoyed it. I still prefer the first more, but that's just the kid in me being nostalgic. But I can tell the cast were having a lot of fun with this one.

[Andrew NDB]

Saw it. Thought it was fantastic.

The only thing I didn't like was, I was actually kind of expecting Lydia to honor her agreement and marry Beetlejuice this time. Beetlejuice really went out of his way to help everybody in this one, even doing stuff way above and beyond what was being asked of him... like tricking that murderous boy and apparently sending him to Hell.

[Andrew NDB]

Wow, that was a super strong showing for weekend #1! It already made its entire production budget back in it... AND domestically.

[KROW]

Saw it a few weeks ago and loved it. Thoroughly entertaining and gave me some real good chuckles. The ending was rushed like hell but I think that was part of the joke. This felt like one of those forget-your-troubles-and-have-a-good-time flicks.

[Andrew NDB]

This really ended up being a big hit. 100 million dollar budget and it did practically 300 million... DOMESTICALLY alone. Another 150 million internationally.

Burton hasn't had a hit like this since Alice in Wonderland in 2010 and is almost exactly performing like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Almost exactly.