Captain America: The Winter Solider

[ToTheNines]

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Trailer came out today. Looks pretty cool. Other than Age of Ultron, this is probably the Phase 2 movie I'm most interested in.

I'm pretty happy with Cap's suit here. Probably isn't as cool as it was in The First Avenger, but he looked like something out of Power Rangers in Avengers.

[Raph's Girl]

Uh oh... looks like Bucky owes Nick Fury a new helicarrier. :P

[Andrew NDB]

I'm pretty happy with Cap's suit here. Probably isn't as cool as it was in The First Avenger

Though he actually gets back his First Avenger suit in this at one point (he jacks it from a museum, I believe I read). You even see him in it in the trailer.

I'm guessing he wears the costume you see when he's doing stuff for SHIELD, then when he realizes they're up to no good he turns his back on them and takes back his first costume. By the end we'll probably see a slightly new version of his Avengers suit.

[Turo602]

Trailer looks great. So far, it looks like the best of the phase 2 movies. Iron Man 3 was disappointing, and I'm not really too hyped for Thor 2.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, the trailer looks great. But then so did the trailers for Iron Man 3... and that movie really kind of burned me.

[ZariusTwo]

Film looks like it might be a better story than the first Cap movie, which I thought was way too boyscoutish and cartoonish to be a beleivable period peice about a hero's life in the second world war.

Giving how divisive Iron Man 3 has proven to be, Phase II needs to bounce back with Thor: Dark World to reclaim some faith. So far in terms of other output like the dire Agents of SHIELD and corny cartoons, Marvel really have been losing the plot lately. Part of me is glad as I've never forgiven the company for Civil War and other hot sticky comic book related messes the last few years, but it's still sad to see them produce a lot of mediocrity lately.

[chrisdude]

I'm so excited about this movie. I find questionable SHIELD stuff compelling, and I can't wait to see what choices Cap has to make.

[Leo656]

I really liked the first Cap film so I'm sure I'll liked this one as well. I disagree with Zarius about part I, I admit it had a little more of a "cartoonish" quality in spots but I don't think anyone was expecting to have "Saving Pvt. Ryan" welded onto a super-hero movie. I found the film did a really clever job covering the areas of the character's history. I liked how he was shown to be initially a propaganda character to inspire troop morale rather than a "real" soldier, since that's exactly what the real-life character was created to be initially, a pure piece of pro-U.S. propaganda, and I thought the way they did it, though silly, was clever. :)

I get what you're saying, though. Sometimes the way they show things in movies almost has to be unrealistic or else there's no movie. Like "Iron Man II", in real life Stark would have been taken into custody and sent to a military prison for the rest of his life for refusing to turn over his Iron Man tech to the government. There's no way a jolly speech would convince the gov't that this guy or any guy could be trusted to walk around with technology that could conceivably bring about the End Of Days if mishandled. But eh, movies. :lol:

[ZariusTwo]

I really liked the first Cap film so I'm sure I'll liked this one as well. I disagree with Zarius about part I, I admit it had a little more of a "cartoonish" quality in spots but I don't think anyone was expecting to have "Saving Pvt. Ryan" welded onto a super-hero movie. I found the film did a really clever job covering the areas of the character's history. I liked how he was shown to be initially a propaganda character to inspire troop morale rather than a "real" soldier, since that's exactly what the real-life character was created to be initially, a pure piece of pro-U.S. propaganda, and I thought the way they did it, though silly, was clever. :)

I admit I just didnt "get", or at the very least, didnt appreciate, what they were trying to do, normally that sort of stuff works for me in parody, but I like to think Cap can be the s*it in terms of a character. I wouldnt want him decking Hitler or anything, but something a bit more serious, like we seem to be getting now, would have sufficed.

It was also other areas like the toyetic aspects and it's purpose as a set-up for all the fantasy aspects of The Avengers that I had a problem with. A big ad for another movie is not a dramatic selling point for me

[Leo656]

I wasn't upset at all about Cap's movie setting up the Avengers, because that's exactly what it should have done: In the comics, Cap was only relevant during WWII, and then disappeared until they did The Avengers, so it was pretty accurate there. Cap as a solo character was only a precursor to the larger things to come, basically. I think Iron Man II was more unforgivable in the "Commercial for Avengers" aspect. I liked it, but it literally didn't need to exist in any way at all, other than to say "Oh, yeah, we're still making an Avengers movie, in case anyone forgot." On its own it really doesn't do anything. :lol:

That said, I did think Cap was by far one of the stronger stand-alone Marvel films. It does heavily foreshadow what's coming next, but it was really one of the better ones on its own, too. I'm intrigued by where the sequel might go with it.

[LivingMutagen]

Looks awesome. How will Cap leaving SHIELD affect Coulson though? I would say more but can't think of much. Falcon looks cool, as does le Winter Soldier.

[raph27]

Yeah, the trailer looks great. But then so did the trailers for Iron Man 3... and that movie really kind of burned me.
That's what worries me. the IM3 trailers were AWESOME, but the movie was...well, average.

[Allio]

Just watched Captain America for the first time, I can say yeah, I'm looking forward to the second one

[Slade]

I liked the trailer. I'm okay with the 1st film, though it isn't one of my favorites. Course, I am more of a DC fan anyway. I watch Marvel movies just because I guess.

[Andrew NDB]

That's what worries me. the IM3 trailers were AWESOME, but the movie was...well, average.

Yup. The trailers painted it like this visceral revenge thriller with a strong terrorist element, Tony having to rebuild himself from scratch to fight a superior nemesis. The reality was like a comedic spoof on the whole superhero genre itself, with a decoy villain masquerading for a less interesting fake villain and Iron Man barely ever being Iron Man. I felt angry after Iron Man 3.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Yup. The trailers painted it like this visceral revenge thriller with a strong terrorist element, Tony having to rebuild himself from scratch to fight a superior nemesis. The reality was like a comedic spoof on the whole superhero genre itself, with a decoy villain masquerading for a less interesting fake villain and Iron Man barely ever being Iron Man. I felt angry after Iron Man 3.

The thing i didn't like was the fact that Iron man 3 didn't know what it wanted to be. Did it want be a comedy, or a superhero film? No one knows.

And it also lacked what made Iron man brilliant: Tony Stark's brilliant comedic timing and lines. He was witty and funny in the first and even second one. in Iron man 3, however, seemed like he was trying too hard to be funny.

[sdp]

Exactly, I was so disappointed in IM3 for the same reasons as Andrew, and I actually liked Iron Man 2 even if it was more of the same from the first one. I"m more of a DC guy but the Cinematic Universe is alright, I enjoy the movies for what they are but they don't set my world on fire like they do to some people, the only one I've truly loved is the first Iron Man. This trailer looks ok, I'll probably see it before Avengers 2 but I liked the trailer for Thor 2 more which I'll probably only see before Avengers 2 as well. I think Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy might be the only two I might see in theaters besides Avengers 2 if they look interesting. Well I'm looking forward to X-Men Days of Future Past but that one isn't MCU.

[TigerClaw]

Someone made the F*ck Yeah! version of the trailer.

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[Megchan]

I keep expecting Captain America to yell "FLAME ON!"

[tsukeru]

My body is so not ready for this movie.

[chrisdude]

Someone made the F*ck Yeah! version of the trailer.

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Yes!
*sends to all friends*

[Raph's Girl]

Superbowl spot:

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[LeotheLateBloomer]

Even though Iron Man 3 wasn't that a great, I personally thought it was better than Iron Man 2 which had way too many comedic moments to the point where I was watching a live sitcom. Iron Man is still the best. I enjoyed both Thor films especially the last one. Captain America: The First Avenger was pretty entertaining. This new movie is looking really good. I like that he's wearing his previous since I didn't think there was anything wrong with it and I am loving how Black Widow is looking in this movie. I have a feeling this might be the best movie of Phase Two.

[Garfield]

Looks like its going to fun to watch. Especially Falcon and his wings. I saw the Captain America the first avenger recently and I liked it, granted I saw it in Spanish (I don't understand Spanish well.). My only critic is that some of the dialogue seems a little cheesy.

[ToTheNines]

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New clip, possibly the opening scene. New trailer at the end too.

[ToTheNines]

So after Ant-man, Captain America 3 will be the second phase 3 movie. Same writing and directing team as Winter Soldier.

Source: IGN.

[NinjaPug]

So it's going to be Captain America 3 against Batman vs Superman on May 6, 2016. I wonder which studio blinks and moves their film.

I'm pretty pumped for Cap 2 now. It's getting tons of great early buzz. Just 3 more weeks.

[TigerClaw]

remake of the the Captain America: The Winter Soldier trailer starring a bunch of kids.

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[Cure]

It's getting tons of great early buzz.

The buzz that has me most nervous are the ones saying things like "this is the Black Widow movie you've been waiting for" and "Whedon isn't the only one who can write strong female characters".

Like, f*ck, Black Widow sucks and I don't want half the movie to be about her.

[TigerClaw]

I'm looking forward to it, The stuff that happens in this movie will have repercussions in Age of Ultron, Plus there's an End Credit scene supposedly sets it up.

[ZariusTwo]

Just saw it

Marvel really love taking advantage of the real world conspiracy paranoia surrounding the New World Order don't they? They always make use of something along those lines in either their comics or in here.

Falcon kicked butt and I loved his exchange with Steve five minutes in, Steve's "check list" including "see Star Wars/Trek" got a laugh out of me.

Poor Peggy, words of wisdom one minute and then elderly mental crackdown the next...heart-wrenching scene, a shame this is her ultimate fate.

"I am so fired", rofl.

Widow in disguise was awesome

Steven Strange is a target, awesome namedrop

Bucky was utlized basicly for all the action porn. I'd have liked to have seen more flashbacks for him and Steve, it'd help to bridge the eras and flesh out more of the character for people who may not have seen the first Cap film. It seems they're saving up any other development for the third movie down the line.

The Baron has Loki's staff.

An age of miracles...good way of getting around the legalities of the name "mutants"

So SHIELD is gone and Nick is underground....Agents of SHIELD is going to be a very different show if it's renewed...but if you've ever seen Torchwood, you're probably thinking, yet again, how close it will be to that show's format (original organization raised to the ground, former agent starts it right back up with a rag tag group)

[Lou 500]

The Winter Soldier is sexy. I have a thing for guys with long hair. <3

[ObiWanFan4life]

Check out this kick ass poster drawn by comic book artist Pablo Rivera :

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[TigerClaw]

The movie came out today, I plan on seeing it Saturday. :)

[Raph's Girl]

Winter Soldier was awesome!! Loved every min of it!


1: Interesting that they didn't say Sharon's surname...

2: Dr. Strange is a Hydra target. Yo Bucky. You were like a block from his house... seriously during the first chase scene between Steve and Bucky I saw a building in the background that looked like Dr. Strange's house.

3: Yep Stan. Your job as a museum security guard is over. :P

4: Oh dear! Hydra has Magneto's kids!! :o

5: It was SOOO weird to see Nick without his eyepatch. I wasn't sure what I expected to see when he lifted it up.


Had a pretty packed theatre at the showing I went to. There was this adorable kid, he musta been about 5, in a complete Capt America uniform. He was flexing and protecting his mamma and sisters while we waited in line. *lol*

[NinjaPug]

Saw it today and I also loved every freaking minute of it. Great story, great characters, great action. Need to see it again before putting it at the top of my Marvel Cinematic Universe list but it's definitely up there. Unlike some of the other Marvel films this one didn't suffer from having a weak 1st or 2nd act. All 3 acts were great.

[TigerClaw]

Winter Soldier was awesome!! Loved every min of it!


1: Interesting that they didn't say Sharon's surname...

2: Dr. Strange is a Hydra target. Yo Bucky. You were like a block from his house... seriously during the first chase scene between Steve and Bucky I saw a building in the background that looked like Dr. Strange's house.

3: Yep Stan. Your job as a museum security guard is over. :P

4: Oh dear! Hydra has Magneto's kids!! :o

5: It was SOOO weird to see Nick without his eyepatch. I wasn't sure what I expected to see when he lifted it up.


Had a pretty packed theatre at the showing I went to. There was this adorable kid, he musta been about 5, in a complete Capt America uniform. He was flexing and protecting his mamma and sisters while we waited in line. *lol*
Did they showed the TMNT Teaser at your screening?

[Turo602]

Winter Soldier was amazing. Defenitely the best solo film to come from the MCU.

[Raph's Girl]

Did they showed the TMNT Teaser at your screening?

Nope! They only showed trailers for the various upcoming Marvel films.

[snake]

The movie came out today, I plan on seeing it Saturday. :)

Me too dude! I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zulithe]

Did they showed the TMNT Teaser at your screening?

I'm trying to remember all the ones they showed at my screening but it was a GREAT trailer lineup:

Some adam sandler movie where he vacations in Africa
TMNT 2014
Maleficent
Guardians of the Galaxy
Amazing Spider-Man 2
X-Men Days of Future Past

It was the first time i'd seen each of those trailers on the big screen (and in 4K no doubt), definitely improved from the youtube versions :P :P

While TMNT is easily the weakest, I'm totally seeing each one (okay, maybe not the Sandler one)!

Oh and Winter Soldier was really amazing! I think it lived up to the first in every way (and I really liked the first), it may be the best Solo Marvel film to-date, not sure yet, need to think on it more, but it definitely ranks HIGH.

I really really LOOOOOOOVE the Winter Soldier theme:

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[Raph's Girl]

I'm trying to remember all the ones they showed at my screening but it was a GREAT trailer lineup:

Some adam sandler movie where he vacations in Africa
TMNT 2014
Maleficent
Guardians of the Galaxy
Amazing Spider-Man 2
X-Men Days of Future Past

Yeah. I got those minus the TMNT trailer.

[TigerClaw]

I hope they show the teaser in 3D.

[Turo602]

They showed the trailer here, though I wish they hadn't.

[TheCanadiandrome]

I'm not sure when I'll see it. Hey, to anyone who's seen it, leave or stay during the credits?

[Turo602]

I'm not sure when I'll see it. Hey, to anyone who's seen it, leave or stay during the credits?

I stayed. It should be common knowledge to stay after film credits with a lot of movies these days, especially when it comes to these particular movies. I hate it when people are so thirsty to leave the movie theater that they get up so quickly and stand around like idiots when something happens during the credits. As for the after credits scene, their loss I guess.

[Zulithe]

if it is a marvel film you 100% stay, period :) it's to the point now that if they did not show a mid-credits or post-credits scene I think people would riot

[chrisdude]

I've seen the movie twice, already. Best film in the Avengers series, by a mile. Two miles.

One showing at the regular theater, and one at IMAX, and they didn't play the TMNT trailer in either.

[Iroh]

I've seen the movie twice, already. Best film in the Avengers series, by a mile. Two miles.

One showing at the regular theater, and one at IMAX, and they didn't play the TMNT trailer in either.

I totally agree with you. Awesome movie by far. There were some things that could have been done to make the movie better though.:trolleye:

[chrisdude]

There was one little thing that bothered me...
How the heck did they get out of the underground computer facility? The facility was bombed, and they just climbed out? They rode an elevator to get down there.But in a 5-star rating, that doesn't amount to 1.

[Warhorse]

I love this movie. I just didn't like the shaky cam in the beginning with the fighting scenes, kind of took me out of the movie for a moment, but really, I loved this thing, and I'm going for a second helping tomorrow. I think I will take my mom, she likes Captain America.

[TigerClaw]

Saw it today in 3D, They didnt show the TMNT teaser, But the movie was great. :)

[Slade]

Saw it today. It was really good. Way better than the first

[Redeemer]

To those who have seen the movie how is it compared to other comic book movies. Better than Avengers??? Give me a letter grade at the very least??:lol:

[Iroh]

To those who have seen the movie how is it compared to other comic book movies. Better than Avengers??? Give me a letter grade at the very least??:lol:

Compared to "The Avengers," I will have to give it a B+. In my opinion, I would say that the plot of "The Avengers" was well orchestrated with action sequences while "The Winter Soldier" kept you guessing with the surprises.:twink:

[electric_sheep]

To those who have seen the movie how is it compared to other comic book movies. Better than Avengers??? Give me a letter grade at the very least??:lol:

Not to hype you to much, but it's way better than the Avengers. Character are better, action is more engaging, and there's plenty of it. in avengers there's long stretches of nothing. And i don't particularly care for anyone so when there's action i am totally detached, that and characters are cardboard cutouts. Black widow in this movie, oh my god. Scarlet kills it, it's almost a body cop movie with Falcon Widow and Cap with a plot of 70-ties of spy movie.
The only negative that I've got is that the action is a little to big at the end, i would prefer something just a little more low key. Well that's it for not over hyping you, but is pretty amazing...
Avengers 3,5
Winter Soldier 5-

[electric_sheep]

How is it that nobody said this, Winter Soldier lifts so much from original Star Wars trilogy, in the best way possible...

[Warhorse]

How is it that nobody said this, Winter Soldier lifts so much from original Star Wars trilogy, in the best way possible...

Like what? Because I am under the impression that the movie is more or less, going along with the comics, and the comics are older than Star Wars, right?

[electric_sheep]

Like what? Because I am under the impression that the movie is more or less, going along with the comics, and the comics are older than Star Wars, right?

The whole plot of the movie, You've got an evil empire that's taken over by the evil politician who wants to build a super weapon. You've got a good man who is mind washed and turned into a cyborg. You've good a pilot and a spunky female character, You've got mentor who is killed but later comes back. Ending fight between Cap and Bucky looks like the place where Vader and Luke fought.
There's more. Don't get me wrong, these are all awesome things...
And no, Star Wars is around 20 years older than the comics...

[Warhorse]

The whole plot of the movie, You've got an evil empire that's taken over by the evil politician who wants to build a super weapon. You've got a good man who is mind washed and turned into a cyborg. You've good a pilot and a spunky female character, You've got mentor who is killed but later comes back. Ending fight between Cap and Bucky looks like the place where Vader and Luke fought.
There's more. Don't get me wrong, these are all awesome things...
And no, Star Wars is around 20 years older than the comics...

No it isn't! Captain America was around even before George Lucas was even born!!!!! Get you sh!t straight man!

[electric_sheep]

No it isn't! Captain America was around even before George Lucas was even born!!!!! Get you sh!t straight man!

Yes, he was. But i was talking about Winter Soldier story, i think that came somewhere around 2003.

[chrisdude]

To those who have seen the movie how is it compared to other comic book movies. Better than Avengers??? Give me a letter grade at the very least??:lol:I admire The Avengers for juggling star characters, and fantastic dialogue. But, as far as the actual story, I didn't think it's anything special. Loki hires an army of thingamajigs not worth exploring, and wants to take over the world. Whee...

Winter Soldier follows a team, and has an amazing plot. An amazing plot. The action sequences are more exciting than anything in the franchise. It's as well directed as it is well written.

Honestly, it may be my favorite superhero movie. Just, go see it now before someone spoils it.

[JetsAndHeels]

Superman has always been my favorite hero and I have always leaned more toward DC just because of it.

Having said that, Marvel is knocking it out of the park, and this film just set the bar even higher. I have never been a big fan of Captain America but this movie has changed my mind about him.When you add in all the other characters you get a great recipe for a solid film.

I have to hand it to Robert Redford also. Guy did a great job as Alexander Pierce.

I want to see this movie again.

[ZariusTwo]

Having said that, Marvel is knocking it out of the park, and this film just set the bar even higher..

Not really. It's a good film, but I watched it again the other night and..I don't know, I just again feel people are overrating it. Then again, I find most Marvel films don't actually hold up on repeat viewings.

[JetsAndHeels]

Not really. It's a good film, but I watched it again the other night and..I don't know, I just again feel people are overrating it. Then again, I find most Marvel films don't actually hold up on repeat viewings.

I didn't mention this in my previous post, but I did not like the first Captain America film. I think this new one is leaps and bounds ahead of it.

I feel Marvel has the formula down. Introduce characters, have sequels, then put them together (Avengers). DC needs to learn this lesson.

[chrisdude]

I've always felt like the Avengers series was pretty good. I'd always watch them to see what happens, but I'd never even bought any of them. I get why some people think the Avengers movies are mediocre. I think the X-Men, Superman, and Batman have had much more interesting stories for their films. Even The Avengers, in my opinion, is more of an impressive feat to have pulled off than it is a great movie.

But now, I agree that Captain America: The Winter Soldier has raised the bar for the whole franchise. I think we'll continue to see strong box office numbers, because the word of mouth will be fantastic.

[AT-Man]

Daaaaaaamn!! Have you people watched Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? The new episode just blew my mind!

[TheCanadiandrome]

I stayed. It should be common knowledge to stay after film credits with a lot of movies these days, especially when it comes to these particular movies. I hate it when people are so thirsty to leave the movie theater that they get up so quickly and stand around like idiots when something happens during the credits. As for the after credits scene, their loss I guess.

if it is a marvel film you 100% stay, period :) it's to the point now that if they did not show a mid-credits or post-credits scene I think people would riot

Lol, rofl! Well you convinced me! :lol:

I'm goin Sunday

[ProactiveMan]

I really like this movie. I like the balance they have struck with the Captain America character; serious without being corny, and that they haven't turned him into a 5000 rpm witticism machine.
Do you think the line about learning to steal cars in Nazi Germany was a reference to the 1990 Captain America? Check it out if you haven't seen it; it's very, very, very... bad.

[JakeSully]

Loved it, i saw it 3 times and it surpassed the first one even if it missed the nostalgia of the first film

[TheCanadiandrome]

loved the hell out of it! going again Saturday

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Yes, he was. But i was talking about Winter Soldier story, i think that came somewhere around 2003.

Actually, Winter Soldier as a character (and his real identity) has been around MUCH longer than that. He was re-introduced (after having spent quite a few years not doing much, apparently) around that time, mainly as part of the build-up to the eventual Civil War story arc in Marvel. The kicker is what he is doing NOW..... (I won't spoil it for those who haven't seen the movie, as it ties into his ID and the conflict in the movie, but let's just say that he has found his true calling in terms of what he was supposedly created to be by the Soviets....) But he's been around in the comics since at least the 80's, IIRC.

[JoshDA7X]

For me, I went into this with low expectations after the first Cap film was sadly boring and didn't really interest me, I tried to sit through it about 5 times before I got to the end. I also felt it was far too 'America!!' (I am aware it was and is intentional for Cap) for my liking. He was also the weakest (AGAIN IMO) character in the Avengers Assesmble. But... I absolutely 100% loved this movie! I honestly cannot think of one bad thing about it! I loved it that much that it made me want to rewatch the first one, so I did and enjoyed it much more!
Roll on Avengers 2!

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

I loved this movie! This was so much better than the last 2 Marvel films.

It's nice to see them back on track.

[ObiWanFan4life]

I loved it. Saw it again yesterday and I noticed little things that I didn't before, like the notepad.

[Sewer Sirens Podcast]

Daaaaaaamn!! Have you people watched Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? The new episode just blew my mind!
Yeah, the Winter Soldier tie-in was great! It's amazing how they've been building up to a lot of this the whole time, when we initially thought it was just going to be 'villain of the week'. Looks like they're finally showing us what they're really capable of.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Daaaaaaamn!! Have you people watched Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? The new episode just blew my mind!

yeah it's been awesome thus far

[ZariusTwo]

...Are you kidding? There was a period where Agents of SHIELD was abysmal telly. It's slightly better NOW but those early episodes are unwatchable.

[DonnyMac]

I gave up on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. after a couple episodes. It was too hard to watch, everything felt forced, the humor, the drama. I just couldn't get into it. I have heard it has gotten better as its gone on, so ill give it another shot when the season is out on DVD. I'm not gonna buy it, but I know my brother in law will, so I'll borrow it from him

[CyberCubed]

Just saw the movie, action scenes were superb and it felt like a good spy thriller/superhero movie/action film/James Bond/Mission Impossible-type movie all rolled into one.

I was wondering what the point of that random black guy at the beginning of the movie was who went jogging with Cap, I had no idea Falcon was in this movie. I was glad to see him, I'm surprised with Nick Fury in the movie they had Falcon in it as well though.

Natasha was nice but her face seemed "off" in this movie compared to the Avengers. Did the actress get plastic surgery between the two films? She really didn't look the same.

[TigerClaw]

How Captain America: The Winter Soldier Should Have Ended.

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