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Jester
11-02-2013, 10:57 AM
So...what do you think are the worst cartoons ever?
Retro TV runs the Filmation toons on Saturday mornings...but they run short, so they show The Dick Tracy Show as filler between shows....man it's awful. Tracy is purely an incidental character, and the animation is lousy.
ObiWanFan4life
11-02-2013, 11:05 AM
Highlander: The Animated Series, Stitch ! : The Anime, Powerpuff Girls Z, and Every current cartoon on the CN (with the exceptions of Adventure Time, Regular Show.) just to name a few.
Redeemer
11-02-2013, 11:12 AM
The worse I have ever seen is probably The 2003 CGI Spider-man series produced by sony, voiced by Neil Patrick Harris
If you watch the first five minutes you will understand why.
Allio
11-02-2013, 11:15 AM
Ren and Stimpy
Donatello19
11-02-2013, 11:44 AM
Uncle Grandpa and Sanjay and Craig are pretty awful...heck, most new cartoons are.
PApagreg
11-02-2013, 12:02 PM
Allen Gregory, Problem Solverz, Coconut Fred, and Wulin Warriors
This thread is just gonna turn into everyone ragging on new cartoons.
Mzx10484
11-02-2013, 12:39 PM
Captain Planet !
CyberCubed
11-02-2013, 01:45 PM
The old Superfriends and 1970-1980 Batman cartoons were horrible. I remember Cartoon Network used to rerun them all the time.
The shows were so terrible that the heroes weren't even allowed to punch the villains. There was little to no fighting in the show and all the characters were one dimensional.
People tend to forget how horrible DC cartoons were before B:TAS. Only the 1940 Superman shorts were good.
BabyTurtles
11-02-2013, 01:52 PM
Uncle Grandpa already annoys me sadly.......:(
I just....Don't like his voice...I can barely understand him!
PApagreg
11-02-2013, 01:54 PM
This thread is just gonna turn into everyone ragging on new cartoons.
Despite the fact everything they hate about it can be found in old cartoons they love
Bossa Nova
11-02-2013, 02:16 PM
Ren and Stimpy
Seconded. It's just plain nasty. As a kid I also really disliked The Animaniacs as well.
PApagreg
11-02-2013, 02:38 PM
Seconded. It's just plain nasty. As a kid I also really disliked The Animaniacs as well.
Eh I always prefered tiny toons anywhy
Peanut
11-02-2013, 02:58 PM
The worse I have ever seen is probably The 2003 CGI Spider-man series produced by sony, voiced by Neil Patrick Harris
If you watch the first five minutes you will understand why.
F*cking THIS. Absolutely no redeeming values whatsoever. I would rather watch the sh*tty new Ultimate show for eternity than to watch a single episode of that atrocity.
LeoNerdo
11-02-2013, 02:59 PM
The old Superfriends and 1970-1980 Batman cartoons were horrible. I remember Cartoon Network used to rerun them all the time.
The shows were so terrible that the heroes weren't even allowed to punch the villains. There was little to no fighting in the show and all the characters were one dimensional.
People tend to forget how horrible DC cartoons were before B:TAS. Only the 1940 Superman shorts were good.
I love Super Friends. All Super Friends are not created equal tho. Even for the casual viewer, Challenge of the Super Friends is pretty fun, and the last 2 seasons in the early 80's are really pretty good.
Ninjinister
11-02-2013, 03:44 PM
Spongebob
Adventure Time
Regular Show
All worthless s**t. COME AT ME!
Leo656
11-02-2013, 03:53 PM
I agree, early Super-Friends were lousy (but still great for camp value as well as compared to the standards of the time), but the last few seasons up through "Super Powers: Galactic Guardians" were aaaaawesome.
The Marvel Thor and Incredible Hulk cartoons from the '60s is about the worst thing I've ever seen, though. They were more like motion-comics than anything, barely even a "cartoon", little to no actual animation, just voice-over narration set to actual comic book pages. Literally a dirt-cheap production all the way through.
There's also a distinction, to me, between whether something is objectively "bad", but still well-done for the standards of its time period, and then there's things that are just lousy compared to any era. A lot of Filmation shows, for example, were cheap and re-used a ton of stock footage, but at the same time were among the best-produced shows of their era. Nowadays if someone tried to make those shows the same way it'd be bullsh*t, but at the time they were considered innovative.
BubblyShell22
11-02-2013, 05:05 PM
Spongebob, Sanjay and Craig, Rabbids Invasion, Uncle Grandpa, Adventure Time, Annoying Orange, and that's all I can think of right now.
TurtleTitan97
11-02-2013, 05:14 PM
Let's see, for me there's:
Sonic X
The Problem Solverz
Ultimate Spider-Man
Avengers Assemble
Hulk and the Agents of SMASH
Johnny Test
Secret Mountain Fort Awesome
Sanjay and Craig
Pokémon
Sonic Underground
Phineas & Ferb
The Tom and Jerry cartoons from the Gene Deitch era (1961–1962)
Emperor's New School
That's all I got for now.
RaphAndDonnie
11-02-2013, 06:12 PM
Annoying Orange, Uncle Grandpa, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, Johnny Test, and Fantastic Four (1967) (which I don't think is "bad" per se just unbearably boring)
Jester
11-02-2013, 06:27 PM
This thread is just gonna turn into everyone ragging on new cartoons.
Yeah...I'm surprised I didn't see that coming. I also love how they devolve into just lists, with no discussion of why.
MrTMNT2012
11-02-2013, 06:36 PM
Pretty much every single Nickelodeon show besides TMNT, Avatar and Korra!
TurtleTitan97
11-02-2013, 06:43 PM
Pretty much every single Nickelodeon show besides TMNT, Avatar and Korra!
Um, Danny Phantom? Jimmy Neutron? Fairly Odd Parents? There have been plenty of other good cartoons on Nickeldeon besides TMNT, Avatar: TLA, and Korra besides the examples I gave...
MrTMNT2012
11-02-2013, 06:55 PM
Um, Danny Phantom? Jimmy Neutron? Fairly Odd Parents? There have been plenty of other good cartoons on Nickeldeon besides TMNT, Avatar: TLA, and Korra besides the examples I gave...
I should've phrased it better; Any CURRENTLY running Nickelodeon shows besides Avatar, Korra & TMNT.
The series you listed are just fine, they're not bad but they don't even hold a candle to Nickelodeon's previous works like Ren and Stimpy etc.
Don't even get me started on their live-action shows...:o :oops:
CyberCubed
11-02-2013, 07:04 PM
Most old superhero shows from before the 90's have aged horribly.
Can't get into any of the old Spider-Man, Batman or Superfriends shows.
Just goes to show you the 90's saved superhero cartoons and remain the high point of the genre to this day.
Jester
11-02-2013, 07:06 PM
Yeah, the best thing about the 60's Marvel series were the theme songs. I'm still surprised that the 60's Iron Man theme was given a big band make-over in the 1st movie. It caught me off guard.
Redeemer
11-02-2013, 07:26 PM
F*cking THIS. Absolutely no redeeming values whatsoever. I would rather watch the sh*tty new Ultimate show for eternity than to watch a single episode of that atrocity.
I dont think anyone believes us. No ones probably has seen it.
Yeah...I'm surprised I didn't see that coming. I also love how they devolve into just lists, with no discussion of why.
Exibit A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIkH3V3wUiM
Intro
Exibit B http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlRg23Axajw&list=ELNvS9Y2_2Z0E&index=1
1st episode
I rest my case. Thank you :lol:
Jester
11-02-2013, 08:09 PM
I dont think anyone believes us. No ones probably has seen it.
Exibit A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIkH3V3wUiM
Intro
Exibit B http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlRg23Axajw&list=ELNvS9Y2_2Z0E&index=1
1st episode
I rest my case. Thank you :lol:
Own it on DVD...and in my opinion, it's not that bad....but posting videos does not really an argument make.
Airconny
11-02-2013, 08:12 PM
Most of the stuff that airs on Cartoon Network just bothers me to the brim, to the point where I have to mute the TV every time I try to relax in my bed.
Adventure Time seemed good at first, but after the show kept going on for another season or so, the whole thing turned terribly nonsensical and I just can't stand to watch it anymore.
Regular Show tries it's best to stay "hip" with our culture, which ultimately fails, and most episodes are just bland.
Annoying Orange is the worst of the bunch, as it just blatantly rips off other stories and tries to convert it into their version of which, which can make an already bland story into something even worse.
I couldn't even watch Uncle Grandpa. His voice just irks me.
Powder
11-02-2013, 08:28 PM
A lot of the shows that aired alongside TMNT in the Foxbox block were abysmal.
Many old TMNT knock-offs, Darkstalkers being the worst offender. That show made Morrigan evil, Jon a wuss, Anakaris a nutso, added a dumb human kid, and more. Thankfully no toys were ever made. Imagine cruddy off-model Darkstalkers figures, without Morrigan or Felicia, but instead the human kid or some made up characters! THAT WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE, AND MAKE NO SENSE!
Johnny Test. The only reason it's still alive is because it's so cheap (and some fans still hold out for something like the first season, and others are really into Susan and Mary).
90% of preschool programs.
The Stryker
11-02-2013, 09:10 PM
A lot of the shows that aired alongside TMNT in the Foxbox block were abysmal.
You best not be lumping Ultimate Muscle into that statement!
Redeemer
11-02-2013, 09:18 PM
You best not be lumping Ultimate Muscle into that statement!
Have to agree Kid Muscle was actually a decent show, not my favorite cup of tea, but it was still a good show.
Wildcat
11-02-2013, 10:48 PM
Despite the fact everything they hate about it can be found in old cartoons they loveThats the thing about cartoons. Every formula can be recycled over and over since their target is kids and it'll always be "new" and "fresh" to each generation.
Having said that though alot of current cartoons don't make the effort to put any uniqueness to them and settle for rehashing the same things just for the sake of it.
I dont mind the reuse of ideas and formulas as long as the said cartoon does something to set it apart. I understand its hard to come up with completely original stories. I mean look, alot of popular cartoons are preexisting franchises...Scooby, TMNT, MLP, Pokemon, Superheros, Transformers etc. Then alot of cartoons just use the random sillyness format which I dont care for.
Bottom line even if its been done, its been done better. There are very few current cartoons that are NOT based on older franchises that I like.
PApagreg
11-02-2013, 11:04 PM
Thats the thing about cartoons. Every formula can be recycled over and over since their target is kids and it'll always be "new" and "fresh" to each generation.
Having said that though alot of current cartoons don't make the effort to put any uniqueness to them and settle for rehashing the same things just for the sake of it.
I dont mind the reuse of ideas and formulas as long as the said cartoon does something to set it apart. I understand its hard to come up with completely original stories. I mean look, alot of popular cartoons are preexisting franchises...Scooby, TMNT, MLP, Pokemon, Superheros, Transformers etc. Then alot of cartoons just use the random sillyness format which I dont care for.
Bottom line even if its been done, its been done better. There are very few current cartoons that are NOT based on older franchises that I like.
What about AT, RS, Gravity Falls, Uncle Grandpa, AWOG, Wonder over Yander, Sanjay and Criag, Uncle Grandpa, Kick Buttowski and many others also a lot of cartoons do have a uniquenss for example
Adventure Time while basically about a boy and his dog explore a strange land does explore some dark and tragic themes about the world and existing characters, also the main character ages in real time, something I never seen in a cartoon in general
Regular Show is about two slackers but what makes it different is the character development and a day in the limelight for the cast, you get the feeling that even though they are harsh on one another they still consider each others as friends.
Hell even Sanjay and Criag I show with a lot of juvenile humor can get surprisingly touching with elements of friends and family
Slade
11-02-2013, 11:17 PM
I haven't heard of half the shows mentioned from Cartoon Network. I stopped watching the channel after DBZ. I've seen the adventure time characters somewhere, I wouldn't watch anything like that, I don't care for animation like that. I've always hates spongebob. Just don't find it entertaining.
BabyTurtles
11-02-2013, 11:35 PM
I hate any cartoon show that is nasty >:U bleh.
and Johnny Test.....that is the worst use of flash animation ever......actually I think it barely beats Wild Grinders XD
Wildcat
11-03-2013, 12:01 AM
What about AT, RS, Gravity Falls, Uncle Grandpa, AWOG, Wonder over Yander, Sanjay and Criag, Uncle Grandpa, Kick Buttowski and many others also a lot of cartoons do have a uniquenss for example
Adventure Time while basically about a boy and his dog explore a strange land does explore some dark and tragic themes about the world and existing characters, also the main character ages in real time, something I never seen in a cartoon in general
Regular Show is about two slackers but what makes it different is the character development and a day in the limelight for the cast, you get the feeling that even though they are harsh on one another they still consider each others as friends.
Hell even Sanjay and Criag I show with a lot of juvenile humor can get surprisingly touching with elements of friends and familyIm sorry but Adventure Time, Regular Show, Wonder Over Yonder and Uncle Grandpa all fall under the random sillyness format. Theyre just wacky shows with no depth. I know thats what theyre meant to be but like I said I don't care for that style. Plus basically all shows, not just cartoons, have moments of friendship and whatnot.
Gravity Falls is one the current cartoons I like that I was referring too, that isnt an established franchise. Its humor isnt just random craziness. It also has a solid premise of a creepy countryside.
PApagreg
11-03-2013, 12:22 AM
Im sorry but Adventure Time, Regular Show, Wonder Over Yonder and Uncle Grandpa all fall under the random sillyness format. Theyre just wacky shows with no depth. I know thats what theyre meant to be but like I said I don't care for that style. Plus basically all shows, not just cartoons, have moments of friendship and whatnot.
Gravity Falls is one the current cartoons I like that I was referring too, that isnt an established franchise. Its humor isnt just random craziness. It also has a solid premise of a creepy countryside.
Regular Show and Adventure Time even though they still have other types of humor, Slapstick, Dailogue, and meta jokes too. Also for depth like I said tragic themes and characters for Adventure Time and Character Development and backgrounds are explored.
The only show with that wackness and no depth is uncle grandpa
Also if you want to see a show like Gravity Falls I highly suggest watching Scooby doo MI or detetionaire
Powder
11-03-2013, 12:37 AM
Im sorry but Adventure Time, Regular Show, Wonder Over Yonder and Uncle Grandpa all fall under the random sillyness format. Theyre just wacky shows with no depth. I know thats what theyre meant to be but like I said I don't care for that style. Plus basically all shows, not just cartoons, have moments of friendship and whatnot.
This statement proves you haven't watched enough Adventure Time to have an objective opinion or make a valid point.
Jester
11-03-2013, 12:39 AM
Yeah, that's why I didn't mention them. Haven't watched them...can't have an opinion.
Now the barely animated Marvel toons from the 60's those are sad. Though you can't go too wrong with real Jack Kirby art.
Wildcat
11-03-2013, 12:40 AM
Regular Show and Adventure Time even though they still have other types of humor, Slapstick, Dailogue, and meta jokes too. Also for depth like I said tragic themes and characters for Adventure Time and Character Development and backgrounds are explored.
The only show with that wackness and no depth is uncle grandpa
Also if you want to see a show like Gravity Falls I highly suggest watching Scooby doo MI or detetionaireWell I know AT and RS have depth to a certain point, Ive seen them (more of RS), but theyre not a serious part of their stories. It's more what holds everything together...unlike Uncle Grandpa.
Ive seen some of Mystery Inc. I lost track of it but Id like too go back and finish.
PApagreg
11-03-2013, 01:02 AM
Well I know AT and RS have depth to certain point, Ive seen them (more of RS), but theyre not a serious part of their stories. It's more what holds everything together...unlike Uncle Grandpa.
Ive seen some of Mystery Inc. I lost track of it but Id like too go back and finish.
Yeah but that is still depth, that is still something that is there and is more important and crucial to their shows than wackiness, I mean if the shows were actually based on wackiness then I would't hold them up with such high regard( I like Ug dont get me wrong but it is no where near as good as AT) so yeah some of the shows dont have a story line like graviity falls but that doesn't mean they are void of depth and rely on wackness for humor( and to be fair Gravity Fall relys too much on meta and quirkiness for their humor).
Wildcat
11-03-2013, 01:40 AM
Yeah but that is still depth, that is still something that is there and is more important and crucial to their shows than wackiness, I mean if the shows were actually based on wackiness then I would't hold them up with such high regard( I like Ug dont get me wrong but it is no where near as good as AT) so yeah some of the shows dont have a story line like graviity falls but that doesn't mean they are void of depth and rely on wackness for humor( and to be fair Gravity Fall relys too much on meta and quirkiness for their humor).Id say wackiness is just as important to AT as its storylines. I mean thats what it set out to be...a cartoon with over the top characters.
I don't think GF relies on quirkiness. Mabel and Soos do but it more so uses other franchises for its plots like the Jurassic Park and Video Games episodes.
Im not sure what metta humor is....self referencing? I dont think GF does that.
ObiWanFan4life
11-03-2013, 05:42 AM
Continued....
Ultraforce - Never heard of it? There's a reason. Both the show and the Malibu comics it was based on were both cheap knock offs trying to emulate the success of the X-Men cartoon.
Street Sharks - Bland and monotonous TMNT rip off.
Pinky, Elmyra, & The Brain - One of those shows that makes you go "what we're they thinking?"
Icebot
11-03-2013, 06:05 AM
Worst cartoon: Catdog
2nd worst cartoon: Spongebob
ZariusTwo
11-03-2013, 06:55 AM
Phineas & Ferb.
Definitely wasnt bad when it started, and while it may be a little overexposed and a bit stale these days it is still capable of being a great laugh and a lot of fun
Here's some of mine, a lot of these shows aired in the UK on Channel 4, which was seemingly the dumping ground for all the Saturday morning shows nobody wanted (though the saving graces of the channel's output was Jayce, Sonic Satam, and Once Upon A Time...Life/Space)
Adventures of T-Rex
The Stone Protectors
Darkstalkers
Goober and the Ghost Chasers
My Little Pony Tales (earlier series, often refered to as G1.5 of the franchise)
Hammerman
Pro-Stars
Star Street
Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog
Sonic Underground (no denying that it has an awesome theme song and premise though, and there are at least seven good episodes
BubblyShell22
11-03-2013, 08:09 AM
I forgot about Ultimate Muscle. That show really sucked. I remember being excited about it because I'm a wrestling fan, but I thought it was just so horribly done. Ugh. Not my cup of tea at all.
CyberCubed
11-03-2013, 08:45 AM
Simpsons from Season 11 onward.
DonatelloNinja82
11-03-2013, 10:30 PM
MLP Tales was horrid. I'll agree to that.
Phineas and Ferb started out great...2012 and on and I lost interest.
I will admit I like Adventure Time. There is some depth to it, if you watch it. Marceline and Ice King/Simon Petrikov for example.
The Stryker
11-04-2013, 05:52 AM
I forgot about Ultimate Muscle. That show really sucked. I remember being excited about it because I'm a wrestling fan, but I thought it was just so horribly done. Ugh. Not my cup of tea at all.
Boooooooooooooooooo!!!
CyberCubed
11-04-2013, 06:17 AM
Do all those terrible anime dubs that used to air in the late 90's and early 2000's count? The damn cartoon channels were filled with them at the time.
pannoni1
11-04-2013, 09:26 AM
*Most of the DiC/Cookie Jar cartoons of the '90s and 2000s, except for Sonic (GI Joe '90, Sabrina, Wizard of Oz).
*The several Dinosaur-based cartoons in the late '80s, along with Extreme Dinosaurs
*The new Adventures of Mighty Mouse and Heckle and Jeckle
*Scooby and Scrappy-Doo
*WB7-era Looney Tunes and Baby Looney Tunes
*Angela Anaconda
*The Brady Kids
*Minoriteam
*CB Bears (seriously, to sell an adult trucker tool that was as pointless as a fad as Pet Rocks?)
*Wulin Warriors
*Moral Oral
*Butt-Ugly Martains
*Clutch Cargo
*Squidbillies
*Mega Babies
*Godzilla the Animated Series
*Disney's Kong
*The Scooby-Doo clones of the '70s (except for Josie and the Pussycats)
*Devlin (H-B's Evel Kneivel cash-in)
*Hammerman (remember that M.C. Hammer toon?)
*Fatherhood (Bill Cosby cartoon)
*Loonatics Unleashed
*Brothers Grunt
*Super Duper Sumos
*Camp Lazlo
and worst of all: 12 oz. Mouse
ZariusTwo
11-04-2013, 09:29 AM
and worst of all: 12 oz. Mouse
Really? In my opinion, that was the last truly great thing Adult Swim ever produced
PApagreg
11-04-2013, 10:46 AM
[QUOTE=pannoni1;1174277]*Most of the DiC/Cookie Jar cartoons of the '90s and 2000s, except for Sonic (GI Joe '90, Sabrina, Wizard of Oz).
*Moral Oral
/QUOTE]
Seriosly I thought that moral orel was one of the best animated programs in history hell the president of comedy central said it was a Gem.
Type 97 Chi-ha
11-04-2013, 02:07 PM
Popeye cartoons with Brutus instead of Bluto
1970's Tom and Jerry, where they were allies instead of adversaries
1990's Pink Panther where he talks
TurtleTitan97
11-04-2013, 03:32 PM
*Camp Lazlo
:o Say what??? Camp Lazlo was one of CN's best shows back in its glory day.
And Lazlo himself was a pretty cool character:
CIU_UQF-kas
That monkey had some serious golden pipes.
DonatelloNinja82
11-04-2013, 06:05 PM
Eh...I never liked Camp Lazlo...sorry. But I did like Ed, Edd, and Eddy, PPG, Foster's, Samurai Jack, Billy and Mandy, Teen Titans (PPG, Fosters, and Teen Titans tops that list!)
Leo656
11-04-2013, 08:28 PM
Lotta people here need to watch more cartoons. Late-era Simpsons among the "worst"? Really?
I mean, much as I LOVE 12 Oz. Mouse and Moral Orel, and as much as they're truly "great" shows, they're surrealist and absurdist and not everyone is going to "get it". But stuff like late-era Simpsons or modern Nick stuff? Really? The "Worst"? Compared to 1970s dreck like "Wait 'Til Your Father Gets Home" or "Gilligan's Planet"? Seriously??
Some people have absolutely zero objectivity and are confusing "The Worst" with "Stuff They Don't Particularly Care For". Even in its current state, for example, The Simpsons is STILL a much better show than 90% of all cartoons ever made. It only sucks compared to the first few seasons, and again, that's not even fair.
NinjaPug
11-04-2013, 08:34 PM
Agree. Don't understand the hate for the later seasons of The Simpsons. Sure it's not at the level of the early seasons (what is?) but the new episode this past Sunday still had me laughing. It'll be a sad day when The Simpsons airs its final episode.
CyberCubed
11-04-2013, 08:54 PM
Agree. Don't understand the hate for the later seasons of The Simpsons. Sure it's not at the level of the early seasons (what is?) but the new episode this past Sunday still had me laughing. It'll be a sad day when The Simpsons airs its final episode.
There is the ocassional good episode, but most of Seasons 11-24 is rather bad or mediocre.
Simpsons used to be considered one of the best shows on television. Seasons 2-9 especially have so many heartwarming and enjoyable episodes. The quality started slipping around Season 10, but by Season 11 onward the show became more mean-spirited and Family Guy like and it never recovered. This is not even counting how flanderized and out of character most of the major characters have become.
Jester
11-04-2013, 08:55 PM
Simpsons from Season 11 onward.
^ hasn't watched Simpsons since season 11....
Seriously, it gets a bum rap.
CyberCubed
11-04-2013, 08:58 PM
^ hasn't watched Simpsons since season 11....
Seriously, it gets a bum rap.
I've seen every episode of Simpsons to date. I'm one of the few who never stopped watching it since my childhood.
Leo656
11-04-2013, 10:06 PM
Comparing any show to a younger version of itself isn't ever fair, though.
And again, even the very worst episode of The Simpsons is objectively better than any episode at all of something like The Brady Kids.
I'd have to say that aside from a few obvious gems like Flintstones, Jetsons, and Scooby-Doo, many of the cartoons from the late-60s and early-70s were very subpar. You had a lot of good Hannah-Barbera stuff but even a lot of that was very simple and formulaic. The standards of the day were so low, budgets were super low and everything had to be so bland and inoffensive. A lot of the shows are fondly remembered because the characters themselves were fun and memorable, but by and large the quality of the writing and animation, even on a show like Flintstones, was mediocre-to-awful. We don't remember those shows because they were necessarily great, we remember the characters more than anything.
Take Scooby-Doo as another example; for the first few years, every episode was literally exactly the same. If someone tried to make a show like that today, people would sh*t all over it and it would never get a second season. As for animation, there wasn't much of it. If the characters weren't so dynamic it wouldn't be so successful to this day, and it says a lot that many of the newer, ostensibly "better' versions of the show have NOT caught on or become as popular as the earlier, objectively sh*ttier versions.
Wildcat
11-04-2013, 10:33 PM
The Simpsons is still good imo. Some episodes are not that great and seem pointless at times but after 20 plus years thats a given. Its still good enough to keep going though.
I really enjoy the yearly Scooby animated movies. They seem to loosely follow each other and some are genuinely good like Camp Scare and Mask of the Blue Falcon for more recent examples.
CyberCubed
11-04-2013, 11:24 PM
Yeah most of the old Hanna-Barbera stuff is horrible now. The only show that still holds up is The Flintstones which is amazing, and to a lesser extent Jetsons and some of the better Scooby Doo episodes.
Guitar_Raph
11-05-2013, 02:54 AM
1970's Tom and Jerry, where they were allies instead of adversaries
1990's Pink Panther where he talks
The only time Tom & Jerry were adversaries in the 1975 edition was sports themed episodes (bowling, motorcycle racing, tennis, etc.)
Sure Matt Frewer (aka Max Headroom) voiced the Panther. But in the first few shorts, it was Rich Little with that British voice.
shuriken
11-05-2013, 10:52 AM
bey blade, Yu Gi oh (zexel, 5-d's), Hammer man, Fighting foodons, Iron Man(The 70's, 90's versions and armored adventures), Super friends, Rambo, Spider-man (last season of 60's Spider-man), Ultimate Spider-man, The Hulk from the 90's, Hulk Hogan's cartoon with his friends that all eventually became enemies in the WWF.
A lot of Marvel cartoons were all terrible.
Extreme Dinosaurs were bad too at least Street Sharks had really cool toys.
One of the worst cartoons I've ever seen is probably Double Dragon.
Robocop was also terrible.
ZariusTwo
11-05-2013, 12:15 PM
90s Fantastic Four (first season)
2006 Fantastic Four
Nick TMNT (ducks rotten tomatoes being thrown in my direction)
And again, even the very worst episode of The Simpsons is objectively better than any episode at all of something like The Brady Kids.
...I think when fans start saying things like "a s*itty episode of The Simpsons is better than some show that nobody in the mainstream consensus remembers in five minutes let alone five years", it's a pretty tell-tale sign they're in denial about the show's quality
I for one won't be sad when The Simpsons comes to an end. It stopped having anything interesting to say a decade and a half ago, the characters have ceased to grow in respectful and natural ways that compliment their personalities.
I've actually sort of become Frank Grimes to the show's Homer, I point out to all the mainstream hicks the show is completly void of merit and appeals strictly to the easily pleased and the brand loyalists, and they're all "pipe down, I want to see Homer win first prize at a children's competition". The only difference is I won't go nuts and electrocute myself
Take Scooby-Doo as another example; for the first few years, every episode was literally exactly the same. If someone tried to make a show like that today, people would sh*t all over it and it would never get a second season. As for animation, there wasn't much of it. If the characters weren't so dynamic it wouldn't be so successful to this day, and it says a lot that many of the newer, ostensibly "better' versions of the show have NOT caught on or become as popular as the earlier, objectively sh*ttier versions.
That's true. Mystery Inc was unloved by the Network and it seemed more concerned with being about New Age concepts than standard Saturday morning mysteries. Conspiracy loons like myself loved it, but it was hard to pin it down, and the movies are your usual kiddy shlock that seem to just diminish with energy and surprise with every outing.
Type 97 Chi-ha
11-05-2013, 04:04 PM
The only time Tom & Jerry were adversaries in the 1975 edition was sports themed episodes (bowling, motorcycle racing, tennis, etc.)
Sure Matt Frrewer (aka Max Headroom) voiced the Panther. But in the first few shorts, it was Rich Little with that British voice.
I'm comparing them with past cartoons. Tom and Jerry were funny when they fought each other. Also, the problem with the Pink Panther with Matt Frewer was less that he talked but that the episodes mostly stank. Some were funny, most were just ridiculous.
BubblyShell22
11-05-2013, 05:10 PM
I liked MLP Tales when it was the MLP characters from the movie. Once they put in the new ponies like Bright Eyes, Patch, Clover, Melody, etc. it just got horrible.
DonatelloNinja82
11-05-2013, 05:50 PM
The Simpsons is still good imo. Some episodes are not that great and seem pointless at times but after 20 plus years thats a given. Its still good enough to keep going though.
I really enjoy the yearly Scooby animated movies. They seem to loosely follow each other and some are genuinely good like Camp Scare and Mask of the Blue Falcon for more recent examples.
I really enjoy the yearly Scooby movies myself, but I love Scooby-doo!! I liked Mystery Inc as well.
I liked MLP Tales when it was the MLP characters from the movie. Once they put in the new ponies like Bright Eyes, Patch, Clover, Melody, etc. it just got horrible.
OMG yes...horrid!!
CyberCubed
11-05-2013, 05:55 PM
Most Marvel cartoons are terrible. Many of the old 80's and 90's ones were bad as are the ones of today.
The only really good ones were Spectacular Spidernan, X-men Evolution and Avengers: EMH.
Jester
11-05-2013, 05:58 PM
Wolverine and the X-men was pretty good. Canceled before it's time. :(
TurtleTitan97
11-05-2013, 06:01 PM
Wolverine and the X-men was pretty good. Canceled before it's time. :(
That is so true. I was so looking forward to the Age of Apocalypse storyline.
CyberCubed
11-05-2013, 06:09 PM
Wolverine and the X-men was pretty good. Canceled before it's time. :(
That show was very average. It did have potential to be a great show if Season 2 happened.
Redeemer
11-05-2013, 06:44 PM
That show was very average. It did have potential to be a great show if Season 2 happened.
I am actually watching it right now and its a good watch, but wolverine is not wolverine.
He is not hot tempered, but a lot more level headed as if he has prior character developement and now he is trying to be a leader instead of the lone worlf.....fairly interesting take on the character.
PApagreg
11-05-2013, 06:47 PM
That show was very average. It did have potential to be a great show if Season 2 happened.
Honestly I thought that they did too much for one season, also its good to know that the X men never had a Terrible Cartoon
ZariusTwo
11-06-2013, 05:36 AM
Honestly I thought that they did too much for one season, also its good to know that the X men never had a Terrible Cartoon
...Well unless you count the 80s pilot, which is quite corny, but has awesome animation quality and theme music ("magneto's whores are on the way"):lol:
Jester
11-06-2013, 05:42 AM
...Well unless you count the 80s pilot, which is quite corny, but has awesome animation quality and theme music ("magneto's whores are on the way"):lol:
That's one episode....
ZariusTwo
11-06-2013, 05:44 AM
That's one episode....
True.
So you liked the X-Men anime series too?
Jester
11-06-2013, 05:47 AM
True.
So you liked the X-Men anime series too?
I've only seen an episode or two...not bad.
Seen the Astonishing X-men motion comics?
ZariusTwo
11-06-2013, 06:14 AM
Seen the Astonishing X-men motion comics?
Nah, I'm not very keen on post-Morrison X-Men, even if it is Whedon.
Discogod
11-06-2013, 06:35 AM
2006 Fantastic Four
I'm a HUGE FF fan, and I loved the 2006 cartoon - I thought it was the best animated version of the team, and was gutted when it was cancelled. Plus, it gave Squirrel Girl her first animated appearance...:lol:
CyberCubed
11-06-2013, 02:26 PM
I also never liked Thundercats. I know this series has a following, but I used to watch it on CN and I never understood what was so good about it. The bad 80's animation I could deal with, but the storylines and characters were just bland and uninteresting.
I didn't watch the new version, but I could never get into the original.
PApagreg
11-06-2013, 04:22 PM
I also never liked Thundercats. I know this series has a following, but I used to watch it on CN and I never understood what was so good about it. The bad 80's animation I could deal with, but the storylines and characters were just bland and uninteresting.
I didn't watch the new version, but I could never get into the original.
You would love the new version, it has character flaws, continuity, and grey on gray morality
DonatelloNinja82
11-06-2013, 05:58 PM
I really liked the Thundercats re-boot. Shame they cancelled it.
TurtleTitan97
11-06-2013, 06:01 PM
I really liked the Thundercats re-boot. Shame they cancelled it.
So true. I was really looking forward to another season. Nice job there, CN.:roll:
So true. I was really looking forward to another season. Nice job there, CN.:roll:
Yeah, shame on them for getting rid of something that was losing money. Not like they're a business or anything.
PApagreg
11-06-2013, 06:58 PM
Yeah, shame on them for getting rid of something that was losing money. Not like they're a business or anything.
Fair enough but you do got to admit they should have done a better job advistise it also I dont understand CN dont go on the adult swim route and put thier show on long season haitus vs flat out cancelling them
Leo656
11-06-2013, 11:11 PM
I do get the business reasons behind the cancellation of Thundercats, but even still, I never quite felt they gave the show the "push" it deserved, or needed for it to be more successful. I talked to way too many T-Cats fans who had no idea there even was a new show. And my friends are the types who watch a lot of Cartoon Network. Bad marketing, if you ask me.
I was doing a marathon run of the original last year, and it's not bad at all but it's definitely weak compared to a lot of other stuff from back then. The character designs and basic plot were great, the show had a great look and awesome music, but after about 100 episodes I flat-out got sick of waiting for Lion-O - my favorite character from the show, mind you - to grow the hell up and stop being such a p*ssy.
F*ck "Thundercats, HO!", his battle cry should've been "Thundercats... HELP!" How can a guy that jacked up and carrying a gigantic freakin' sword be so utterly incompetent and useless on his own? :roll: I liked the new show, but since they made him a lot younger I didn't see much change for the better, as far as his character was concerned.
CyberCubed
11-08-2013, 05:25 PM
Beware The Batman, while not terrible, is just rather dull. No surprise it's getting canceled in one season.
Also a rather large chunk of The Batman was rather rough, with Season 4 being the only standout season comparable to the DCAU. Although we can be greatful The Batman never sank to Ultimate Spiderman kind of lows.
Teen Titans Go is also an insult to the original Teen Titans from 2003, which mixed humor and action brilliantly.
And I'll say it again, most Marvel cartoons. You can count the number of good Marvel shows worth watching on one hand.
Teen Titans Go is also an insult to the original Teen Titans from 2003, which mixed humor and action brilliantly.
It's not an insult to the show; it's an insult to crazy people who take cartoons personally. So you, basically.
Davetello
11-08-2013, 08:22 PM
It's not an insult to the show; it's an insult to crazy people who take cartoons personally. So you, basically.
People take many forms of entertainment seriously and treat them with a personal mindset, as many consider entertainment a legitimate form of art. Cartoons are part of that, and Batman TAS proved that animation can be very intelligently written, thought-provoking and influential. Many anime shows (not strictly cartoons, but still) are also created with this in mind. Why shouldn't CyberCubed be passionate about animation and voice his disapproval if something doesn't meet reasonable standards?
He doesn't take cartoons 'personally' per se, he simply wants them do the franchise justice and be worthy of the name. I haven't seen either Teen Titans show so have no vested interest in this.
I've noticed that you have a penchant for calling people crazy.
PApagreg
11-08-2013, 11:36 PM
Beware The Batman, while not terrible, is just rather dull. No surprise it's getting canceled in one season.
Also a rather large chunk of The Batman was rather rough, with Season 4 being the only standout season comparable to the DCAU. Although we can be greatful The Batman never sank to Ultimate Spiderman kind of lows.
Teen Titans Go is also an insult to the original Teen Titans from 2003, which mixed humor and action brilliantly.
And I'll say it again, most Marvel cartoons. You can count the number of good Marvel shows worth watching on one hand.
Hey Cubed if Yj and GL were still on would you find Teen Titans go less insulting
Aaronardo
11-09-2013, 08:40 AM
Also a rather large chunk of The Batman was rather rough, with Season 4 being the only standout season comparable to the DCAU. Although we can be greatful The Batman never sank to Ultimate Spiderman kind of lows.
Am I the only one who actually liked most of The Batman? Sure, it certainly didn't come close to knocking down B:TAS, but I don't think one show in a VERY long time will come close to that, either. I thought Seasons 2 and 3 were pretty good, but 1 was a little mediocre. But they canceled it at the right time, anyway. Season 5, honestly, sucked. (And we never speak of Ultimate Spiderman. Ever. Think of the children, Cubed!)
I'd also like to bring up the new Simpsons as well. Like someone said, every once in a while, there's a pretty good episode. A good example is the latest with the funeral and the regrets. I swear, I haven't laughed that hard at a Simpsons episode in a LOOOONG time.
ZariusTwo
11-09-2013, 09:11 AM
Am I the only one who actually liked most of The Batman? Sure, it certainly didn't come close to knocking down B:TAS, but I don't think one show in a VERY long time will come close to that, either. I thought Seasons 2 and 3 were pretty good, but 1 was a little mediocre. But they canceled it at the right time, anyway. Season 5, honestly, sucked.
The Batman's first season finale, and much of the second and fourth seasons are really great. They should have ended it on "The Joining" and did a new JL show afterwards, rather than test the formula of what would become Brave and the Bold on the fifth season.
Aaronardo
11-09-2013, 11:48 AM
The Batman's first season finale, and much of the second and fourth seasons are really great. They should have ended it on "The Joining" and did a new JL show afterwards, rather than test the formula of what would become Brave and the Bold on the fifth season.
Agreed. #tooshort
CyberCubed
11-09-2013, 11:53 AM
That was the problem with The Batman, only half of the seasons of the show were good. Most of Season 1 was poor except the Clayface episodes, and I remember much of Season 3 with batgirl being hit or miss.
The Season 5 was also kinda meh, nothing too special.
The Batman was a decent show for what it was, but coming directly after B:TAS made it obvious how dumbed down the characters and storylines were for kids.
turtle1237
11-09-2013, 01:00 PM
Beware The Batman, while not terrible, is just rather dull. No surprise it's getting canceled in one season.
Also a rather large chunk of The Batman was rather rough, with Season 4 being the only standout season comparable to the DCAU. Although we can be greatful The Batman never sank to Ultimate Spiderman kind of lows.
Teen Titans Go is also an insult to the original Teen Titans from 2003, which mixed humor and action brilliantly.
And I'll say it again, most Marvel cartoons. You can count the number of good Marvel shows worth watching on one hand.
And that is what happens when you make a Batman cartoon/3D show, and not have any of the icon villians like Joker or Twoface, it becomes dull and pointless for the most part.
Batman cant hold a show on his own, he needs the colorful enemies to carry it for him, because dark and slient does not really move stuff along story wise I think. Batman is still great, but like every one, You cant relie on him alone to make the show stand.
I saw so much greatness that COULD have been if they did it right.
Prowler
11-11-2013, 12:12 PM
I found Angela Anaconda to be fairly mediocre. Never got the hype.
CyberCubed
11-11-2013, 02:20 PM
The old Super Mario cartoon is pretty bad looking back on it now. Still at least it wasn't like the awful Zelda cartoon.
Luke795
11-11-2013, 08:16 PM
The old Super Mario cartoon is pretty bad looking back on it now. Still at least it wasn't like the awful Zelda cartoon.
I still like those cartoons.
Leo656
11-11-2013, 09:49 PM
Yeah they're alright. Wasn't a lot to 'em and they were pretty formulaic, but so was every show back then. Literally every cartoon show in the '80s was about catchphrases and predictable behavior. Being a product of its time doesn't in and of itself make any those shows bad.
I actually think Zelda was a little better, of the two. And I always much preferred the voices of Mario and Luigi from the cartoons to the awful voices in the modern games from Mario64 on.
Jester
11-11-2013, 09:51 PM
And I always much preferred the voices of Mario and Luigi from the cartoons to the awful voices in the modern games from Mario64 on.
That's just your wrestling bias....wait? Captain Lou was only the live action Mario...wasn't he?
Leo656
11-11-2013, 10:07 PM
Pretty sure the cartoon Mario was just a guy trying very hard to sound like Capt. Lou, at least in some of the later versions like "Super Mario World", "Super Mario Bros. 3". etc.
And I much prefer Mario's sterotypical Brooklyn-ese to his modern-day stereotypical "right-off-the-boat", "authentic Italian" accent. It's like they forgot that, despite him being Italian, Mario and Luigi were actually born and raised in Brooklyn in pretty much every telling of the story until 1996.
Although I do enjoy randomly shouting "HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOO!" from Super Mario64 every now and then. But still, Mario's voice sucks.
I'll just comment on three shows you guys mentioned on this thread:
Spider-Man The New Animated Series: The show has plenty of flaws and even though it aired on MTV and tried to be more edgy the plots were often more basic than the original show for kids, even then it does have a redeeming feature, that one girl character of Indy was actually great.
Thundercats - I was so hyped for the new show that I re-watched Thundercats, as a kid I didn't particularly like or hate thundercats I was rather indifferent, I liked aspects of it but it also bored me. As for the actual show well it's hard to judge. For an 80s show it actually has some continuity and great ideas in it, however because of it being an 80s show it has the same flaws that 80s shows have...I think it's a great cartoon for it's time but it just hasn't aged very well. A lot of potential, sadly the new show failed to do that, haven't seen it but I heard it's rather mediocre, not that it mattered since CN would've never given it a chance...
Super Mario: Well there's three shows right? The Super Mario Super Show is absolutely boring, very hard to watch. However the sequel show Super Mario Bros 3 is actually a rather fun show it's so wacky and out there that it's entertaining. Never watched SMWorld.
The Legend of Zelda: Well if you take into account that this show came out before Zelda II even came out, it didn't have a lot of story to flesh out...in fact many of the things featured in the cartoon ended up in future Zelda games, mostly because of coincidence I guess but you can't say that it didn't try to flesh out the universe. Counting each episode is 11 minutes long, the episodes are actually quite interesting, and end before they're about to get boring. In fact most 80s shows were like the Zelda show only stretched out to 22 minutes, so for that reason it doesn't feel as painful to watch. It's definitely a decent show.
BubblyShell22
11-12-2013, 08:31 AM
I loved Super Mario World and even the original Super Mario Brothers Super Show as well as Mario 3, though I barely remember it.
ZariusTwo
11-12-2013, 08:45 AM
I'm a little biased towards Super Show because of fond childhood memories of it, it wasnt quite as engaging or as game-accurate as Mario 3 was though. Mario World truly is a franchise nadir.
Zelda was arguably very bad even when I was a kid, but at the same time, it really isnt quite as bad as it's made out to be these days
CyberCubed
11-12-2013, 08:55 AM
I had fond memories of Mario too but I watched the majority of the episodes online again and a lot of it was just typical 80's cartoon flaws and difficult to sit through.
It's also weird noticing the oddities, like the Princess having red hair, Bowser being called King Koopa (because its his Japanese name), and all the Koopalings have different names than their game counterparts.
Michelangelo
11-12-2013, 09:11 AM
Ed Grimly, man he sucked. Even Banana man was better than that. Roger Ramjet used to sicken me, but at least Astro Boy was on straight afterwards. Pokemon has always bored me, guess growing up with it helps. Although not a cartoon Monkey was a big things when I was young, but Daria was a cartoon and she rocked. Can't say the same for spongebob imo.
CyberCubed
11-12-2013, 01:42 PM
No offense to the people here, and I know it's not a cartoon, but I never liked Power Rangers. I watched the first 3 or so seasons when the show first started back in 1992/1993 or whenever it was and even back then it felt shallow to me.
I know people really got into it but it felt repetitive and the villains were shallow. I can see why people liked it though.
Funny thing is I got heavily into TMNT and pokemon, but Power Rangers was the only big fad at the time I could never stay interested in.
Prowler
11-12-2013, 02:40 PM
No offense to the people here, and I know it's not a cartoon, but I never liked Power Rangers. I watched the first 3 or so seasons when the show first started back in 1992/1993 or whenever it was and even back then it felt shallow to me.
I know people really got into it but it felt repetitive and the villains were shallow. I can see why people liked it though.
Funny thing is I got heavily into TMNT and pokemon, but Power Rangers was the only big fad at the time I could never stay interested in.
I personally never got into Power Rangers either. Dunno why, though.
CyberCubed
11-12-2013, 03:10 PM
I just didn't find the story or characters interesting enough. Also most of the early eps follow the same formula of Rita Repulsa making a new monster and them taking it down by the end of the episode in a similar way.
Aaronardo
11-12-2013, 03:39 PM
No offense to the people here, and I know it's not a cartoon, but I never liked Power Rangers. I watched the first 3 or so seasons when the show first started back in 1992/1993 or whenever it was and even back then it felt shallow to me.
I know people really got into it but it felt repetitive and the villains were shallow. I can see why people liked it though.
Funny thing is I got heavily into TMNT and pokemon, but Power Rangers was the only big fad at the time I could never stay interested in.
I actually don't like Power Rangers, either. It's just too juvenile for me. I mean, even when I was 7 I was like, "Wow. This is BAD."
The Stryker
11-12-2013, 03:41 PM
Why the hell are you talking about Power Rangers in this thread about bad cartoons?
ZariusTwo
11-12-2013, 03:57 PM
I actually don't like Power Rangers, either. It's just too juvenile for me. I mean, even when I was 7 I was like, "Wow. This is BAD."
I'll gladly take a season like Power Rangers Lost Galaxy and Power Rangers RPM over the juvenile Nick TMNT 'toon anyday.
PApagreg
11-12-2013, 04:09 PM
This is my personally taste and I know that people will nod down at me but every cartoon from 1930s-1988 with the exception of Looney Tunes, Tom and JErry, Micky Mouse short, and Jem is a guilty pleasure for me.
oldmanwinters
11-12-2013, 04:27 PM
I find the 1994 Iron Man series almost unwatchable.
And I can suffer through quite a bit when superheroes are involved.
Michelangelo
11-12-2013, 04:35 PM
Some cartoons age better than others in our eyes I guess.
I use to watch sailor moon because it was entertaining when I was young but I'm unlikely to watch it now that I'm much older. I just watched the first episode of SAMURAI PIZZA CATS for the first time in about 15 years. I thought I enjoyed it more when I was younger but I could still watch this now. It's pretty manic like a lot of Japnaese cartoons.
Smurfs were ok when i was young but I'm not about to watch them now. The other thing with cartoons back in the day was that whatever was on was what I watched. TV was very limited compared with the viewing options children have today. Couple that with only being allowed to watch cartoons when your parents let you means that whatever was on was good enough. With the power of choice today given the net, I still go back to the old shows mostly like the mysterious cities of gold and looney tunes amongst others. power rangers were never my thing either, I wrote them off as a rip off of voltron because of the costumes so never gave them a chance. But we love what we love and we hate what we hate. My wife loves ed grimly but when she showed me the show (I'd never seen it), I just couldn't lie and say it was any good to me and that in fact it was the worst thing I've ever seen. She respects that and I repsect her love of the show, after all she grew up with it and it's important to her, just so long as it doesn't have to be important to me that's fine.
CyberCubed
11-12-2013, 06:29 PM
I find the 1994 Iron Man series almost unwatchable.
And I can suffer through quite a bit when superheroes are involved.
Almost all marvel cartoons are unwatchable.
The old stuff is dated and bad and the new stuff is juvenile and god awful.
You have to look for the gems like X-men Evolution, Spectacular Spiderman, and Avengers:EMH, and ignore mostly everything else.
Even 90's Spider-Man/X-men has a lot of crud in it. Shame because they used to be quite fun.
PApagreg
11-12-2013, 06:48 PM
Almost all marvel cartoons are unwatchable.
The old stuff is dated and bad and the new stuff is juvenile and god awful.
You have to look for the gems like X-men Evolution, Spectacular Spiderman, and Avengers:EMH, and ignore mostly everything else.
Even 90's Spider-Man/X-men has a lot of crud in it. Shame because they used to be quite fun.
Yeah I loved 90s Spiderman but looking at it now it did not age well, Its kind of a shame that as soon as Marvel got the hang of the animation scene they got cancelled and the dark age of Loeb came
CyberCubed
11-12-2013, 07:02 PM
Marvel needs to hire Greg Weisman back.
PApagreg
11-12-2013, 07:31 PM
Marvel needs to hire Greg Weisman back.
Even though I love Greg, I think Marvel needs to look at some new blood, with their new styles and twist to the mythos, also I think that even though all 3 shows are connected I still think they should have more diverse artstyles.
CyberCubed
11-12-2013, 07:41 PM
I've also never liked any Transformers incarnation. I've never liked He-man. I've never liked Thundercats. I've never liked Gi-Joe. I've never liked Voltron.
Man...I think I've disliked virtually every big 80's property except for TMNT.
Shark_Blade
11-12-2013, 07:50 PM
Adventure Time.
Jester
11-12-2013, 08:09 PM
And now a totally arbitrary list.....
Snorks
Beetlejuice
Sealab 2021
Family Guy
The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan
Samurai Pizza Cats
Why do I not like them...who cares....
LIST!!!!!
Prowler
11-12-2013, 08:14 PM
The pokémon anime is one of the biggest animation series I've never liked, and found it to be quite mediocre and repetitive. It would have been fine if it had lasted for a couple of seasons, but good grief, it's still going strong and probably nearing 1000 episodes by now. Not saying it's one of the worst animation series of all time, but definitely mediocre for such a long running and popular series.
I also never liked Naruto or DBZ, but wouldn't put them on the "worst cartoons ever list" either.
Oh and Family Guy. I kinda liked it when I was 14 or so, but no way I can sit through it now.
Michelangelo
11-12-2013, 08:31 PM
And now a totally arbitrary list.....
Snorks
Beetlejuice
Sealab 2021
Family Guy
The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan
Samurai Pizza Cats
Why do I not like them...who cares....
LIST!!!!!
Right on dude!
Even though I like a lot of those I can appreciate that some things just suck to some people. Does anyone else thing the ed grimly show is right up there in terms of worst cartoons ever? I like Martin Short in movies, but this just blew me away in terms of irritating suckfulness.
Jester
11-12-2013, 08:42 PM
Right on dude!
Even though I like a lot of those I can appreciate that some things just suck to some people. Does anyone else thing the ed grimly show is right up there in terms of worst cartoons ever? I like Martin Short in movies, but this just blew me away in terms of irritating suckfulness.
To be fair, it was a joke. Only a few of them I actually remember enough to like or not. I just loathe when threads like these just come down to lists with no explanation as to why....
Michelangelo
11-12-2013, 09:00 PM
To be fair, it was a joke. Only a few of them I actually remember enough to like or not. I just loathe when threads like these just come down to lists with no explanation as to why....
Point taken Jester.
So can we come up with a list of the worst cartoons and put them to a vote?
I'm nominating Ed Grimly. Nothing is more irritating to watch to me. His voice in that show is like some kind of yuppie scum whinging about everything.
The Sewer Lord
11-13-2013, 06:42 AM
Brickleberry. I shudder even by the mention of the first syllable.
BubblyShell22
11-13-2013, 08:57 AM
Family Guy was decent until they got rid of Cleveland and gave him his own show. Now I barely watch it and think that was the dumbest move they could have made.
American Dad is not my cup of tea either just because it never appealed to me. Then again, it has to do with politics, and I despise politics.
shuriken
11-13-2013, 02:26 PM
American Dad is not my cup of tea either just because it never appealed to me. Then again, it has to do with politics, and I despise politics.
It's a right wing parody. But it hardly has anything to do with politics. To be honest I find it more enjoyable to Family Guy. But they're essentially the same show when you think about it.
shreddinghead
11-13-2013, 03:00 PM
Worst cartoons ever? That's a good question actually. I dunno, hmm, i used to watch cartoon network alot in the late 90's. I watched about any inane cr*p that was on that channel. However, it is one show i distinctly remember that i hated there. Dr. Snuggles! I don't know why, i just found Dr. Snuggles and the entire show super creepy. Moreover, i always skipped to another channel in agony whenever care bears was on.
Fugitoid Jones
11-20-2013, 03:08 AM
I really can't stand a lot of the older Hanna Barbera cartoons like The Huckleberry Hound Show, Wacky Races, The Magilla Gorilla Show, the Great Grape Ape Show, and even Scooby Doo. The low quality animation and the addition of a stupid laugh track always annoyed me.
ryukenden
11-20-2013, 12:45 PM
Where to even begin?!
Let's start with butchered anime. Such as Battle of the Planets by sugarcoating Gatchaman by getting rid of fight scenes and that nobody ever gets killed and that R2-D2 knockoff. The 4Kids adaptation of One Piece with their ridiculous edits. Replacing Sanji's cigarette with a freaking lollipop!!
For Western Animation, Pinky, Elmyra and the Brain! Executive meddling at its worst! :x
Prowler
11-20-2013, 01:01 PM
I really can't stand a lot of the older Hanna Barbera cartoons like The Huckleberry Hound Show, Wacky Races, The Magilla Gorilla Show, the Great Grape Ape Show, and even Scooby Doo. The low quality animation and the addition of a stupid laugh track always annoyed me.
Wacky Races did not have a laugh track.
CyberCubed
11-20-2013, 10:09 PM
Every original CN comedy cartoon after the 2000's.
Leo656
11-20-2013, 10:22 PM
That's crazy. I mean, some of them are awful, but without Aqua Teen, 12 Oz. Mouse and Moral Orel, the Myan Prophecy about 2012 almost certainly would have come true. I guess you're OK with that?
Speak not such madness here, heathen.
"Now please, if you would, get the f*ck out of my way. I mean, how many times do I have to f*cking write 'ice cream' on this f*cking list before someone gets their sh*t in gear, and brings home the f*cking ice cream?! Maybe I should get a steak knife AND ETCH IT INTO YOUR MOTHERF*CKING FOREHEAD! HOW HARD CAN IT F*CKING BE!!!!! ICE MOTHERF*CKING CREAM!!!!! I GUESS THAT'S THE PRICE I PAY FOR LIVING WITH TWO F*CKING MORONS!!!!!" :lol:
CyberCubed
11-20-2013, 10:52 PM
The 90's were the best time for cartoons. True fact.
Leo656
11-20-2013, 10:58 PM
But... but that's impossible, because He-Man, Voltron, Thundercats and Speed Racer were only being shown sporadically by then... not to mention OT TMNT (although that did have a healthy run into the '90s; and I'm well aware Speed Racer is from the '60s but I saw it a ton in the late-80s so for me it's always been an "'80s Show" by association)...
I think things were pretty even. The '80s had more good, or at least memorable, shows, but there were a small number of shows in the '90s that, by themselves, were of much higher quality than anything from either decade.
And both decades had a bunch of enjoyable yet objectively lousy shows, too. :P
Jester
11-20-2013, 11:00 PM
Every era of TV has it hits and missed. True fact.
Leo656
11-20-2013, 11:07 PM
I think the first year was solid but then it jumped the shark.
Coola Yagami
11-20-2013, 11:08 PM
Every person is going to consider the cartoons they watched during the era that they grew up in as the best ever. True fact.
CyberCubed
11-20-2013, 11:46 PM
Every person is going to consider the cartoons they watched during the era that they grew up in as the best ever. True fact.
I've seen cartoons from every decade thanks to Cartoon Network airing all those old 60's and 70's cartoons, and then the stuff that aired on the 80's, 90's and 2000's regularly.
90's were simply the best:
Batman: tas
Superman: tas
Batman Beyond
Ninja Turtles
Simpsons at its best
Gargoyles
Animaniacs
Tiny Toons
Spiderman
X-men
Most CN original shows
Garfield
etc.
Prowler
11-21-2013, 12:43 PM
I've seen cartoons from every decade thanks to Cartoon Network airing all those old 60's and 70's cartoons, and then the stuff that aired on the 80's, 90's and 2000's regularly.
90's were simply the best:
Batman: tas
Superman: tas
Batman Beyond
Ninja Turtles
Simpsons at its best
Gargoyles
Animaniacs
Tiny Toons
Spiderman
X-men
Most CN original shows
Garfield
etc.
Garfield and Friends? Really? I found it average at best.
Coola Yagami
11-21-2013, 10:00 PM
Pretty sure the cartoon Mario was just a guy trying very hard to sound like Capt. Lou, at least in some of the later versions like "Super Mario World", "Super Mario Bros. 3". etc.
And I much prefer Mario's sterotypical Brooklyn-ese to his modern-day stereotypical "right-off-the-boat", "authentic Italian" accent. It's like they forgot that, despite him being Italian, Mario and Luigi were actually born and raised in Brooklyn in pretty much every telling of the story until 1996.
Although I do enjoy randomly shouting "HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOO!" from Super Mario64 every now and then. But still, Mario's voice sucks.
It was Captain Lou Albano in the original Super Show and some other guy in Mario 3 and Mario World. That new guy wasn't trying to sound like Albano, he kinda went for his own thing.
Coola Yagami
11-21-2013, 10:03 PM
I've seen cartoons from every decade thanks to Cartoon Network airing all those old 60's and 70's cartoons, and then the stuff that aired on the 80's, 90's and 2000's regularly.
90's were simply the best:
Batman: tas
Superman: tas
Batman Beyond
Ninja Turtles
Simpsons at its best
Gargoyles
Animaniacs
Tiny Toons
Spiderman
X-men
Most CN original shows
Garfield
etc.
But you didn't grow up with them. It's not the same watching 90's cartoons as a kid and 2000s cartoon as a young adult. You didn't run home from school to watch Adventure Time (just an example, I know you hate AT), or eagerly awaited every Saturday for the next ep of TMNT. Well... ok for the TMNT part, but it just feels more awesome when you're a carefree kid as opposed to an adult that has chores and bills to worry about the moment the show is over.
Hell, as awesome as TMNT 2012 is now, I bet I woulda thought it was ten times more awesome if I was 12 again.
PApagreg
11-23-2013, 02:34 PM
I've seen cartoons from every decade thanks to Cartoon Network airing all those old 60's and 70's cartoons, and then the stuff that aired on the 80's, 90's and 2000's regularly.
90's were simply the best:
Batman: tas
Superman: tas
Batman Beyond
Ninja Turtles
Simpsons at its best
Gargoyles
Animaniacs
Tiny Toons
Spiderman
X-men
Most CN original shows
Garfield
etc.
Cube buddy there is no such thing as the best decade for example 2000s have
Invader zim
Spec Spiderman
Avatar
Code Lyoko
TMNT
Teen Titans
Kim possible
American Dragon
Megas XLR
Oban Star Chasers
Fosters
Chowder
Flapjack
Samurai Jack
Batman Brave and the beatiful
and ETC
The Sewer Lord
11-24-2013, 03:22 AM
Cube at his finest. :lol: :roll:
Anyway, you can't really say which era is best for cartoons. Each decade had its own dominant type or genre of cartoons. The cartoons in the '30s, '30s and '50s were very wacky, like the Looney Toones and Disney cartoons. The '60s and '70s' cartoons were both wacky, but now had a sarcastic and "sitcomic" feel in themselves. In the '80s, the cartoons were a bit less wackier, more sarcastic and had more action. In the '90s and '00s (of the 21th Century), the action cartoons were dominant. In the '10s of the 21 Century, the sitcomic humor (slightly different, though) is now dominant in cartoons.
So judging eras isn't that simple as it sounds.
ZariusTwo
11-24-2013, 07:22 AM
Chowder
:ohwell:
No man. S*it no man.
ObiWanFan4life
11-24-2013, 08:07 AM
The Super Friends - Sloppily Animated and Embarrassingly Silly.
Star Wars Ewoks - A cheap cash grab.
snake
11-24-2013, 08:09 AM
The Super Friends - Sloppily Animated and Embarrassingly Silly.
Star Wars Ewoks - A cheap cash grab.
This.
Ewoks was terrible and lasted 2 seasons. Droids was so much better and lasted 1.
ObiWanFan4life
11-24-2013, 08:34 AM
This.
Ewoks was terrible and lasted 2 seasons. Droids was so much better and lasted 1.
Here's another one, Avengers: United We Stand - An Avengers cartoon without Captain America, Thor or Iron Man. There were other reasons why I thought it sucked, but that just bothered me.
snake
11-24-2013, 08:52 AM
Here's another one, Avengers: United We Stand - An Avengers cartoon without Captain America, Thor or Iron Man. There were other reasons why I thought it sucked, but that just bothered me.
I've heard about that one, but I've never seen it.
Jester
11-24-2013, 09:02 AM
Yeah, I watched it recently...it was...lackluster.
I do think the 90s were the best era to have lived on either as a kid, teenager or adult. They were such care free times. With that said as far as cartoons I do think the 90s had more variety and more selection even though I think the 00's had as many great shows as the 90s and had better shows in the 90s because they had less restrictions in some cases and were able to be written much better. The selection just wasn't as big though which is why the 90s wins, cartoons had more competition from videogames and and the internet which the 90s had less of. The 80s may've had some good shows but overall the writing is just bad and that's why it can't compete, same with previous decades.
Avengers:UWS, isn't that bad but lackluster like Jester mentions so there's nothing really to talk about. It's much better or the same as Iron Man/Fantastic Four/Hulk, but by that time it needed to be more to get the attention, the fact that it had no well known characters didn't help. But I feel this show gets too much hate, it isn't any worse than the others.
CyberCubed
11-27-2013, 01:00 AM
Static Shock is pretty meh. Never understood why people thought it was as good as the core DCAU.
Most cartoons based on movies tend to be pretty bad. Some exceptions like the old Beetlejuice cartoon, The Mask, and Men in Black were alright though. Also Jackie Chan Adventures if that counts.
Redeemer
11-28-2013, 10:50 PM
Static Shock is pretty meh. Never understood why people thought it was as good as the core DCAU.
Most cartoons based on movies tend to be pretty bad. Some exceptions like the old Beetlejuice cartoon, The Mask, and Men in Black were alright though. Also Jackie Chan Adventures if that counts.
Those were great cartoons. Men in Black had a awesome intro.
side note I actually liked the premise of Static shock, but his villians were lack luster at best. It had some good writing. first episode that comes to mind is the "bullying" episode
A friend of Virgil and Richie brings a gun to school out of fustration and shoots Richie by mistake. really ahead of its time. If that episode was played now it might get plublicity just from the premise of the episode.
CyberCubed
11-28-2013, 10:52 PM
I wish they made a Nightwing spinoff instead of Static at the time.
Jester
11-28-2013, 10:57 PM
But Nightwing was an experienced hero....wasn't part of the point of SS that he was a "hero in training"?
CyberCubed
11-28-2013, 11:40 PM
But Nightwing was an experienced hero....wasn't part of the point of SS that he was a "hero in training"?
No, it was because at the time KidsWB wanted a show that starred an African American hero, and Static Shock was the perfect candidate to make a cartoon out of at the time.
It's the same reason Green Lantern was black in Justice League, (as opposed to using Kyle who was on Superman: TAS), and why Aqualad was black in Young Justice. The WB is very supportive of racial diversification.
Jester
11-28-2013, 11:48 PM
I thought GL was John Stewart because they thought he was more interesting...
BabyTurtles
11-28-2013, 11:51 PM
No, it was because at the time KidsWB wanted a show that starred an African American hero, and Static Shock was the perfect candidate to make a cartoon out of at the time.
It's the same reason Green Lantern was black in Justice League, (as opposed to using Kyle who was on Superman: TAS), and why Aqualad was black in Young Justice. The WB is very supportive of racial diversification.
so is that a bad thing? all those characters are awesome. more minority characters FTW.
CyberCubed
11-29-2013, 12:00 AM
I thought GL was John Stewart because they thought he was more interesting...
Bruce Timm and others said they switched to John Stewart because they wanted one black character on the cast.
Remember they couldn't use Cyborg because he was on Teen Titans which was airing at the same time.
TurtleTitan97
11-29-2013, 12:03 AM
I thought GL was John Stewart because they thought he was more interesting...
Same here.
so is that a bad thing?
all those characters are awesome
more minority characters FTW.
^ This.
IMO, Static Shock was a good series. Not one of the top best DC shows, but still pretty enjoyable to watch.
ObiWanFan4life
11-29-2013, 06:12 AM
Same here.
^ This.
IMO, Static Shock was a good series. Not one of the top best DC shows, but still pretty enjoyable to watch.
It's certainly better then this:
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turtletoons81
11-29-2013, 02:05 PM
It's certainly better then this:
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still boggles my mind how wb green lit this.
Slade
11-29-2013, 02:18 PM
Cube buddy there is no such thing as the best decade for example 2000s have
Invader zim
Spec Spiderman
Avatar
Code Lyoko
TMNT
Teen Titans
Kim possible
American Dragon
Megas XLR
Oban Star Chasers
Fosters
Chowder
Flapjack
Samurai Jack
Batman Brave and the beatiful
and ETC
The only things from this list I've seen are TMNT of course, a couple eps of Batman Brave and the BOLD and Teen Titans. Not actually a fan of Teen Titans though.
BabyTurtles
11-29-2013, 07:42 PM
The only things from this list I've seen are TMNT of course, a couple eps of Batman Brave and the BOLD and Teen Titans. Not actually a fan of Teen Titans though.
you should try avatar it's genius!
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/188/4/f/Aang_and_Sokka_Bow_by_vamcatblaze123.gif
or were you the one that didn't care to see it?? I forget...
turtle1237
11-29-2013, 08:10 PM
No, it was because at the time KidsWB wanted a show that starred an African American hero, and Static Shock was the perfect candidate to make a cartoon out of at the time.
It's the same reason Green Lantern was black in Justice League, (as opposed to using Kyle who was on Superman: TAS), and why Aqualad was black in Young Justice. The WB is very supportive of racial diversification.
John was around since the 80's though, I think race did have a part in picking GL for Justice League, were in the old Superfrends cartoon, they had to make people up lol.
Slade
11-29-2013, 09:10 PM
you should try avatar it's genius!
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/188/4/f/Aang_and_Sokka_Bow_by_vamcatblaze123.gif
or were you the one that didn't care to see it?? I forget...
Wasn't me :D
Idk, I might give it a shot just to see. I've seen the movie. I didn't mind it, guess cus I haven't seen the show, everyone tells me it sucks though.
BabyTurtles
11-29-2013, 09:46 PM
Wasn't me :D
Idk, I might give it a shot just to see. I've seen the movie. I didn't mind it, guess cus I haven't seen the show, everyone tells me it sucks though.
the show is ten thousand!!! times better than the movie!!
if you even remotely liked the movie you will love the animated show!!
(the characters in the movie act totally different)
look at this kid...he does not smile!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KJkZI37bJ8Y/SlwdrK4SGLI/AAAAAAAAAEU/iH_Gkf6bjKU/s400/Noah+Ringer+Aang.jpg
now look at this....same character...but can you tell the difference!
http://s3.favim.com/orig/44/aang-air-avatar-funny-gif-Favim.com-374779.gif
also the action....they were only able to lift one rock with all those moves
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1xTJf7b1kgw/UW6SbMtOUHI/AAAAAAAAAVM/XZjkjS52_0g/s1600/tumblr_madqd6fAig1rn80v8.gif
this is just one little girl earthbender XD taking out several enemies alone
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3dva21QnH1rnackzo1_400.gif
it's not the same....you gotta watch the show
1) the action (pure eye candy)
2) the characters (the girls are treated sooooo well)
3) the story....oh the story T^T
you know what I'm gonna stop my fangirl rant........just watch it.
Slade
11-29-2013, 10:36 PM
^^ haha okay, okay I'll check it out. :lol:
BabyTurtles
11-29-2013, 10:44 PM
^^ haha okay, okay I'll check it out. :lol:
YAY!!
http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Kronks-Mission-Accomplished-Reaction-Gif.gif
Voltron
11-30-2013, 03:13 AM
But Nightwing was an experienced hero....wasn't part of the point of SS that he was a "hero in training"?
I liked that aspect of it. Also, it was nice to have some diversity in the superhero line up. On top of that, I really liked the cross overs they did.
I always felt that Static, while not on par with Batman TAS, was a solid show.
ObiWanFan4life
11-30-2013, 05:10 AM
the show is ten thousand!!! times better than the movie!!
if you even remotely liked the movie you will love the animated show!!
(the characters in the movie act totally different)
look at this kid...he does not smile!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KJkZI37bJ8Y/SlwdrK4SGLI/AAAAAAAAAEU/iH_Gkf6bjKU/s400/Noah+Ringer+Aang.jpg
now look at this....same character...but can you tell the difference!
http://s3.favim.com/orig/44/aang-air-avatar-funny-gif-Favim.com-374779.gif
also the action....they were only able to lift one rock with all those moves
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1xTJf7b1kgw/UW6SbMtOUHI/AAAAAAAAAVM/XZjkjS52_0g/s1600/tumblr_madqd6fAig1rn80v8.gif
this is just one little girl earthbender XD taking out several enemies alone
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3dva21QnH1rnackzo1_400.gif
it's not the same....you gotta watch the show
1) the action (pure eye candy)
2) the characters (the girls are treated sooooo well)
3) the story....oh the story T^T
you know what I'm gonna stop my fangirl rant........just watch it.
Ugh, y'know what The worst part about the movie is? (Aside from the that Shyamalan wrote and directed it.) It had potential to be decent and enjoyable, but what can you expect from a director who knows how to suck all the joy and fun out of movie.
Are we talking about best cartoons now? I'm gonna add King of the Hill and second Avatar.
ObiWanFan4life
11-30-2013, 09:20 AM
While a lot of cartoons today are rarely as good as ones in the 1990's and early 2000's, not all cartoons today are as bad, case in point : Busby
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turtletoons81
11-30-2013, 05:44 PM
While a lot of cartoons today are rarely as good as ones in the 1990's and early 2000's, not all cartoons today are as bad, case in point : Busby
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suck's that rob paulsen couldn't even save it
PApagreg
11-30-2013, 06:08 PM
Are we talking about best cartoons now? I'm gonna add King of the Hill and second Avatar.
If you like Koth I suggest you check out Bobs Burger
pingclang
12-01-2013, 10:59 AM
Sort of off topic, I never thought I'd say this but I fell in love with Regular Show. I was one of the ones saying it had to be awful but a buddy begged me to watch it and about 3 episodes in I didn't want to stop. Not bad at all.
Leofan26
12-03-2013, 07:04 PM
Have you seen Nick as of late? All of those animated shows are awful in my opinion :(
Fairly Odd Parents still going, again my opinion gone down hill so far it's past that mark, same for that money making Sponge. Nick needs to know it's limits on shows and learn to give shows a second chance, I don't think even that sponge had high ratings at the start, did it? I heard good reviews on Sanjay and Craig, I tried it but man the animation is a major turn off and I'll be honest it reminded me of a lamer version of Home movies from Adult swim on Cartoon Network :(
The rest are spin offs from these films, I'd enjoy the Kung - Fu panda series if it had actual plot and major villains like the films do and Po never learns his lessons :(
Monsters V.S Aliens maybe??? Nick never gave it a chance though like it did with those other spin offs, what a shame :(
The only good ones are Legend of Korra and Teenage Muntant Ninja Turtles. Even than Legend of Korra is a major step down from the original series, you can't tell the crew is a team and not to mention that love triangle from Hell which by the way makes no sense, who fights over a cheating jerk like Mako? Only in a world like Legend of Korra, places where man cheating jerks get away with things is treated like royalty, mean while nice guy's like Bolin get jack. Makes you wonder what kind of a life those Legend of Korra writers had.
While Disney and Cartoon Network have shows that are some times horrible, has more shows with some good quality than Nick right now :(
Fish Hooks of the newer shows that I can't stand, I don't even understand how it got three seasons :-?
Coola Yagami
12-03-2013, 07:08 PM
The only good ones are Legend of Korra and Teenage Muntant Ninja Turtles. Even than Legend of Korra is a major step down from the original series, you can't tell the crew is a team and not to mention that love triangle from Hell which by the way makes no sense, who fights over a cheating jerk like Mako? Only in a world like Legend of Korra, places where man cheating jerks get away with things is treated like royalty, mean while nice guy's like Bolin get jack. Makes you wonder what kind of a life those Legend of Korra writers had.
Finally, a cartoon that's more based on the real world.
Leofan26
12-03-2013, 07:11 PM
Finally, a cartoon that's more based on the real world.
Sounds more like one of those MTV reality shows to me :P
Jester
12-03-2013, 07:31 PM
Sounds more like one of those MTV reality shows to me :P
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xV9rrMPcs8A/T_JzbFtR2jI/AAAAAAAAAPU/VYY4BDQKKxs/s1600/drawntogetherlogo%5B1%5D.jpg
Michelangelo
12-03-2013, 07:36 PM
suck's that rob paulsen couldn't even save it
I watched the pilot the other day for Bubsy.
It really irritated me. Not sure what I would have thought of it back in the '90s. I might have watched it, but not now. Still not as bad as ed grimly imo. Don't think I've seen anything that could top that for sucking.
PApagreg
12-03-2013, 07:53 PM
Have you seen Nick as of late? All of those animated shows are awful in my opinion :(
Fairly Odd Parents still going, again my opinion gone down hill so far it's past that mark, same for that money making Sponge. Nick needs to know it's limits on shows and learn to give shows a second chance, I don't think even that sponge had high ratings at the start, did it? I heard good reviews on Sanjay and Craig, I tried it but man the animation is a major turn off and I'll be honest it reminded me of a lamer version of Home movies from Adult swim on Cartoon Network :(
The rest are spin offs from these films, I'd enjoy the Kung - Fu panda series if it had actual plot and major villains like the films do and Po never learns his lessons :(
Monsters V.S Aliens maybe??? Nick never gave it a chance though like it did with those other spin offs, what a shame :(
The only good ones are Legend of Korra and Teenage Muntant Ninja Turtles. Even than Legend of Korra is a major step down from the original series, you can't tell the crew is a team and not to mention that love triangle from Hell which by the way makes no sense, who fights over a cheating jerk like Mako? Only in a world like Legend of Korra, places where man cheating jerks get away with things is treated like royalty, mean while nice guy's like Bolin get jack. Makes you wonder what kind of a life those Legend of Korra writers had.
While Disney and Cartoon Network have shows that are some times horrible, has more shows with some good quality than Nick right now :(
Fish Hooks of the newer shows that I can't stand, I don't even understand how it got three seasons :-?
Well at least we can all look forward to prodigal http://gojira-senpai.tumblr.com/post/66052506641/so-titmouse-is-making-a-new-mecha-series-for
If you like Koth I suggest you check out Bobs Burger
Funnily enough, I've been thinking of sitting down and watching this. Now I'm convinced.
I'm really looking forward to 'Rick and Morty', Dan Harmon (arrested development, community) is a producer and trailer looks great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2KnFDfHm4o
Plasticplayhouse
12-05-2013, 12:49 PM
That's just your wrestling bias....wait? Captain Lou was only the live action Mario...wasn't he?
Yes Lou Albano was the voice actor for Mario in the toon and Danny Wells was the voice of Luigil.
And now a totally arbitrary list.....
Snorks
Beetlejuice
Sealab 2021
Family Guy
The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan
Samurai Pizza Cats
Why do I not like them...who cares....
LIST!!!!!
Beetlejuice was a good show.
Out of my life. Now.
ObiWanFan4life
12-09-2013, 07:48 AM
Can we list individual episodes of shows? After all, some of the best cartoons aren't without their duds :
"Everybody Knows it's Bendy": Probably the most hated episode of Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends because of how mean sprited it is.
"Seashore Seashell Party": Family Guy is the adult equivalent of Spongebob, it started out decent, but became less funny and more mean spirited as it continued. This episode's disturbing visuals and terrible moral are a prime example as to why.
Leo656
12-09-2013, 12:33 PM
I actually really liked that Family Guy episode. It actually reminded me of most families I know, behind the pretensions and lies. Underneath it all, most people really don't like who they're related to, and that's a sad fact most people don't care to admit because it goes against what the media tells us. But in truth, behind closed doors a lot of families are more like the Griffins than the Cosbys. That's part of what I always liked (and still like) about Family Guy; it's very real, albeit embellished quite a bit to make a point. I like it way better than South Park, the next-closest show it can be reasonably compared to. I do still like South Park, but it's been annoyingly pretentious for about ten years now and isn't half as smart or entertaining as it pretends to be.
I know people say a lot of the same things about Family Guy, but I honestly feel South Park is a worse offender. They too often go from satirizing to flat-out attacking people and trends that they don't like in a way that isn't at all subtle. And Trey and Matt swear they're "better" than Family Guy because their show ostensibly has a "message" every episode, but really, most times it's just preachy and snarky. "This week's 'message': Goths and Emos are all just lame whiny posers and we kind of wish they'd all just die!" That's less of a message than an attack, really. At least with Family Guy it's said with a wink. Even at it's harshest it doesn't seem like they're really trying to hurt anybody. I'unno.
ObiWanFan4life
12-09-2013, 12:38 PM
I couldn't get past the moral that Abuse victims should stay in In an abusive relationship for the abusers benefit. Also, I agree with the South Park thing.
Leo656
12-09-2013, 01:25 PM
I don't really agree with that, either, but lots of families are exactly like that. And society tells us, "You can pick your friends but you can't pick your family, so even if you don't get along you sort of have to tolerate and put up with it, because family is the most important thing in the world." I kind of read it as, the episode was in a way exposing just how transparent and toxic that kind of thinking really is.
Full disclosure: I think the "institution" of family is a crock of greeting card-selling bullsh*t and most people are right to want nothing to do with their blood relatives once they're 18 and no longer morally bound to see them at holidays. Again, it's because in real life most people treat each other pretty lousy, family or no, and when they're your relatives you usually can't just punch them out or just choose to never see them. And I know I'm not the only one; every year, so many people I work with tell me how they dread the holidays because it's always some kind of huge fight over nonsense, which is why I stopped spending time with my own family at holidays and otherwise. People pretending to like each other when they really don't, when their only connection (bloodline) is purely accidental, just so they can get together once every few months and exchange gifts and passive-aggressive comments about money and clothing is ludicrous and damaging, and I honestly think that's kind of what Family Guy was getting at in that episode, the hypocrisy of it all, the amount of soul-crushing abuse and torment people are encouraged and willing to endure, all in the name of "family". I don't think they were saying it's OK, specifically.
One thing I like about Family Guy is that they don't always take a "right/wrong" stance on things; they just present things as they are, the way real people say and do things, and say "Well, objectively... everything's pretty f*cked up, isn't it?" and leave it to the viewer to decide how they feel about it. Meanwhile, South Park kind of tells people that "If you think this way or that way, you're an asshole, because we don't agree with you and we have a forum and you don't."
It was a pretty dark FG episode, though. I just don't think it was among the worst. They've done way better and way worse. I simply can't hate any episode with a line like "Lesbians and deaf people wear the same clothes." :lol:
ObiWanFan4life
03-04-2014, 02:11 PM
Foodfight a.k.a. Product Placement : The Movie. Where do I begin, Terrible voice acting, hideous character designs, nonsensical writing, and animation that's so bad, it makes Video Brinquedo look like Pixar.
As shows go:
The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack is an ugly, hateful show that tries WAY too hard to be Ren and Stimpy. What the creators seem to have forgotten is that Ren and Stimpy died for a reason.
shuriken
03-04-2014, 02:41 PM
^^ Ren and Stimpy were the $hit.
How about hammer man? has that been mentioned?
ObiWanFan4life
03-04-2014, 03:19 PM
Allen Gregory- What where they thinking? This is a show where literally EVERYTHING is horrible. The animation is horrible, the designs are worse, the characters are unlikable, but the worst part is that it wants us to SYMPATHIZE with these unlikable people. The only good thing about Allen Gregory is that it was cancelled after 7 episodes.
rickwj324
03-04-2014, 03:45 PM
I watched the pilot the other day for Bubsy.
It really irritated me. Not sure what I would have thought of it back in the '90s. I might have watched it, but not now. Still not as bad as ed grimly imo. Don't think I've seen anything that could top that for sucking.
Are you guys referring to BUBSY the video game bobcat? I loved the game, but don't remember a toon for it.
ObiWanFan4life
03-04-2014, 03:51 PM
Are you guys referring to BUBSY the video game bobcat? I loved the game, but don't remember a toon for it.
And you're probably better off for it.
blindturtle02
03-04-2014, 04:58 PM
I'll tell you one of the most current cartoons I don't care for. Breadwinners! Caught an actual episode to see if it was as bad as the commercials and yep, still didn't like it. Too many fart jokes! I'm sure you guys have seen the commercials if you've watched new eps or reruns of TMNT on Nick? Eric Bauza is one of the main stars in that one from what I've read. C'mon Eric, just play TigerClaw full time, dude! lol Kidding of course. (Sigh) This one will probably be a hit amongst the kiddos. Guess I just don't get TV for kids these days. Hmm, does anybody during adulthood? Ah well, glad the voice actors and crew will be getting work. So why do I still think Rocko's Modern Life and Ren and Stimpy are gold compared to stuff now? What were the creators of this new show thinkin when they came up withnames like SwaySway and BuhDuce? I'm sure parents were asking the same thing about Ren and Stimp. Oh God, I think I've depressed myself now. haha! I need a good bonk on the head with MST3K's Servo and Kro's clownhammer.
ObiWanFan4life
03-04-2014, 05:23 PM
I'll tell you one of the most current cartoons I don't care for. Breadwinners! Caught an actual episode to see if it was as bad as the commercials and yep, still didn't like it. Too many fart jokes! I'm sure you guys have seen the commercials if you've watched new eps or reruns of TMNT on Nick? Eric Bauza is one of the main stars in that one from what I've read. C'mon Eric, just play TigerClaw full time, dude! lol Kidding of course. (Sigh) This one will probably be a hit amongst the kiddos. Guess I just don't get TV for kids these days. Hmm, does anybody during adulthood? Ah well, glad the voice actors and crew will be getting work. So why do I still think Rocko's Modern Life and Ren and Stimpy are gold compared to stuff now? What were the creators of this new show thinkin when they came up withnames like SwaySway and BuhDuce? I'm sure parents were asking the same thing about Ren and Stimp. Oh God, I think I've depressed myself now. haha! I need a good bonk on the head with MST3K's Servo and Kro's clownhammer.
I have too agree. God, I miss Avatar The Last Airbender.
TMNT_Guy
03-04-2014, 07:32 PM
It's like they forgot that, despite him being Italian, Mario and Luigi were actually born and raised in Brooklyn in pretty much every telling of the story until 1996.
The thing is, that only existed in the western Mario expanded universe stories, in Japan he was always just some guy who lived in the Mushroom Kingdom. Don't get me wrong, I hold the whole Brooklyn origin story close to my heart, I think it adds allot to Mario's humanity. However, since these stories were made outside Japan and Nintendo is a Japanese company, this origin will always be ignored by Nintendo.
I always much preferred the voices of Mario and Luigi from the cartoons to the awful voices in the modern games from Mario64 on.
I liked Lou Albano as Mario; he gave the character a unique Brooklyn and Italian accent. Walker Boone from the other two Mario cartoons, on the other hand, went straight for what you'd think a plumber from Brooklyn would sound like. Not bad, but nothing interesting either. Interestingly, Charles Martinet was originally going to give Mario a voice similar to the one Walker Boone gave him. He decided against it, thinking it would be too harsh for children to hear, and gave Mario a more friendly feel. Thus giving Mario the voice he has today.
I've always liked Mario's voice from the games, theres just something so happy about it. To me it sounds like an Italian Mickey Mouse, which is appropriate since Mario is pretty much the Mickey Mouse of video games.
not all cartoons today are as bad, case in point : Busby
Eh, I never thought the Bubsy cartoon was bad, it just didn't do anything new. It made me smile a couple of times, at least. I guess I'm just a sucker for slapstick comedy.
Now, if you want to watch a bad video game cartoon pilot, look no further then the Battletoads cartoon. It's like an even more kid friendly version of the Fred Wolf Turtles, ironic because the Battletoads games were always advertised as a more grown up version of the turtles. It has bad puns, bad slang and just feels like a bad Ninja Turtles parody. Whats odd about it is that the cartoon was written by David Wise of all people, the head writer of the original Ninja Turtles show.
ObiWanFan4life
03-04-2014, 07:43 PM
The thing is, that only existed in the western Mario expanded universe stories, in Japan he was always just some guy who lived in the Mushroom Kingdom. Don't get me wrong, I hold the whole Brooklyn origin story close to my heart, I think it adds allot to Mario's humanity. However, since these stories were made outside Japan and Nintendo is a Japanese company, this origin will always be ignored by Nintendo.
I liked Lou Albano as Mario; he gave the character a unique Brooklyn and Italian accent. Walker Boone from the other two Mario cartoons, on the other hand, went straight for what you'd think a plumber from Brooklyn would sound like. Not bad, but nothing interesting either. Interestingly, Charles Martinet was originally going to give Mario a voice similar to the one Walker Boone gave him. He decided against it, thinking it would be too harsh for children to hear, and gave Mario a more friendly feel. Thus giving Mario the voice he has today.
I've always liked Mario's voice from the games, theres just something so happy about it. To me it sounds like an Italian Mickey Mouse, which is appropriate since Mario is pretty much the Mickey Mouse of video games.
Eh, I never thought the Bubsy cartoon was bad, it just didn't do anything new. It made me smile a couple of times, at least. I guess I'm just a sucker for slapstick comedy.
Now, if you want to watch a bad video game cartoon pilot, look no further then the Battletoads cartoon. It's like an even more kid friendly version of the Fred Wolf Turtles, ironic because the Battletoads games were always advertised as a more grown up version of the turtles. It has bad puns, bad slang and just feels like a bad Ninja Turtles parody. Whats odd about it is that the cartoon was written by David Wise of all people, the head writer of the original Ninja Turtles show.
Ugh, Battletoads is even worse.
blindturtle02
03-04-2014, 09:39 PM
I have too agree. God, I miss Avatar The Last Airbender.
My bh really wants to start that one. I know it's off topic, but I gotta say I'd love to see Airbender. Heard nothing but good things about that cartoon.
How bout the Lego related toons? Anyone have an opinion on those? I tried the Star Wars specials like Padawan Menace and all that for around 5 mins a piece. Wanna say they made a few Marvel ones or maybe just one. Not much for goofiness mixed with my Marvel, DC, or SW. Sure, I'd be fair and try any show once though. Comic relief's alright with me but sprinkled here and there. Not much for being hit over the head with it every two to three mins. Now if it's straight up comedy/satire like Simpsons or Futurama, I'm all over that. I did like Family Guy some years ago but for some strange reason, it stopped being funny all of a sudden. I don't remember being offended by anything. I just lost interest. There have been a few random youtube clips that make me laugh like Peter's Russian waitor doing the I'm So Happy To Finally Be Back Home bit. Love that song! Lord, I sound picky. lol!
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
03-04-2014, 09:47 PM
I'm gonna just throw this out there because I've not read this whole thread. But I can honestly say that I think Scooby Doo is one of the worst shows ever. I just hate everything about it. Really the only Hanna Barbera that I DO like is Smurfs. Captain Caveman was also pretty cool.
TMNT_Guy
03-04-2014, 11:04 PM
I'm gonna just throw this out there because I've not read this whole thread. But I can honestly say that I think Scooby Doo is one of the worst shows ever.
My sister never liked Scooby-Doo either; I, however, could never get enough of it. Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island will always be the high point of the series for me. It's a shame the movie sequels all got progressively worse. I also must say I greatly dislike Matthew Lillard and Frank Welker as the replacement voices of Shaggy and Scooby-Doo. I understand Casey Kasem wanted to retire and that Don Messick is sadly no longer with us, but Scott Innes did a great Shaggy and Scooby-Doo from 1998-2009. Matthew's Shaggy voice sounds so deep and forced, like back when your parents used to make bad impersonations of your favorite cartoon characters. Same thing with Frank’s Scooby-Doo, it's just too deep compared to the original voice. At least it's better than Frank's Garfield voice, I guess.
Really the only Hanna Barbera that I DO like is Smurfs. Captain Caveman was also pretty cool. Whoa, whoa, whoa; you didn't even like Wacky Races? Well...all I can say is...
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T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!
03-04-2014, 11:38 PM
My sister never liked Scooby-Doo either; I, however, could never get enough of it. Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island will always be the high point of the series for me. It's a shame the movie sequels all got progressively worse. I also must say I greatly dislike Matthew Lillard and Frank Welker as the replacement voices of Shaggy and Scooby-Doo. I understand Casey Kasem wanted to retire and that Don Messick is sadly no longer with us, but Scott Innes did a great Shaggy and Scooby-Doo from 1998-2009. Matthew's Shaggy voice sounds so deep and forced, like back when your parents used to make bad impersonations of your favorite cartoon characters. Same thing with Frank’s Scooby-Doo, it's just too deep compared to the original voice. At least it's better than Frank's Garfield voice, I guess.
Whoa, whoa, whoa; you didn't even like Wacky Races? Well...all I can say is...
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LOL. I never watched that show. Frank Welker is the man on Ghostbusters though. He makes an excellent Ray and he really nails that sorta "dorky" and "every man" type character. Who could EVER replace Lorenzo Music though? NOT Dave Coulier I will tell you that! I know those were two different shows but it's weird that Lorenzo and Dave were together on Ghostbusters until Bill Murray ran his stupid gob and then Frank Welker winds up playing Garfield and also Bill Murray winds up playing Garfield. That is confusing to even read. LOL.
Leofan26
03-07-2014, 03:31 PM
I never realized how many people disliked the Scooby - Doo series, I have to agree the films are getting worse and worse, shoving Daph / Fred hints down our face doesn't help either, I thought they did a better job with it in the early films / series while making it cute but too much can annoy people and it takes away from other characters. Remember Shaggy and Scooby? Aren't they the main characters? I miss those days :(
Yah, 90 Scooby films were fun, wonder why they went back to the traditional Masked villain of the week type flicks? I enjoyed the real Monsters story for films. That's right, used to be a big Scooby fan, new films that focus too much on one pairing though annoys the Hell out of me so I stopped collecting the films:x
Newer Spongebob episodes suck! Watch one preview for the new episodes and I can't even stomach it, why it's still popular is beyond me :roll:
New FOP episodes, they keep making the characters look worse and worse. Why don't they end the show already?
Newer Simpsons, who the heck are these characters! I don't know them, it's like they aren't even the same ones we knew and loved from the early episodes. Lisa these days shoves her opinions / political views or whatever on her family or friends. Homer, better father than mine but worse than the Homer we knew, treats Bart like crap and awful husband to Marge. While Bart's changed a lot from his 90s self, I think I enjoy him the most but he gets less episodes these days besides the Sideshow Bob ones or Prank episodes and is treated awful by the writers a lot of the times, that really doesn't bold well with me. They treat Lisa like the Queen ( When at times she shouldn't be ) And treat Bart like he's a Monster ( When at times he doesn't even deserve it ) So yah, gave it up a while ago :ohwell:
I know I'm going to sound like one of those I miss the 90s shows ways people, that's not true. I enjoyed a few of the newer shows past the 90s, My Life as the Teenage Robot for example or The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron or all the Ben 10 shows. Really, don't like what I'm seeing on Nick or Cartoon Network these days. Some have too much potty humor or have horrible animation that I can't bare to watch with no humor to back it up. Let's look at Ed, Edd n Eddy for this, animation wasn't good first but the humor made up for it and love able characters ( Besides Kevin or Sarah ) Double D being my favorite, but yah know. I'm enjoying Disney Animated shows these days more and more. Mickey Mouse shorts are fun too.
ObiWanFan4life
03-07-2014, 06:45 PM
Brickleberry is the most Unispired, poorly done rip off of Family Guy and South Park. The Animation is lazy, the characters are bland, and the "comedy" is too mean-spirited and too juvenile to be considered even remotely funny.
RaphAndDonnie
03-07-2014, 06:50 PM
Brickleberry is the most Unispired, poorly done rip off of Family Guy and South Park. The Animation is lazy, the characters are bland, and the "comedy" is too mean-spirited and too juvenile to be considered even remotely funny.
Brickleberry feels like one of those comedys (and I use that term loosely) that was shocking just to be shocking, which annoys me to no end. I saw one episode and hated it. I couldn't stomach any more.
ObiWanFan4life
03-07-2014, 06:53 PM
Brickleberry feels like one of those comedys (and I use that term loosely) that was shocking just to be shocking, which annoys me to no end. I saw one episode and hated it. I couldn't stomach any more.
Same here.
rickwj324
03-07-2014, 07:21 PM
Same here.
Brickleberry isn't that great... but I do love to watch Tosh.O. That dude is funny!!
TMNT_Guy
03-07-2014, 07:41 PM
I never realized how many people disliked the Scooby - Doo series
I still have high hopes for the Scooby-Doo series, maybe someday Warner Bros will get their act together.
What I love so much about Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island, besides just being an awesome film, is that it added continuity to the series now that the gang are now adults. It's fun to look back on A Pup Named Scooby-Doo and Scooby-Doo Where Are You? and see the characters grow and develop into who they are as adults. Each show also in retrospect fit with their ages, As little kids A Pup Named Scooby Doo was wacky and over the top, As teenagers Scooby-Doo Where Are You? was for the most part mellow and carefree, and as adults things are now serious and more mature then before, but never losing or forgetting the ridiculous humor that made Scooby-Doo popular to begin with. This movie celebrates Scooby-Doo's history, while Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated took nearly every moment to belittle it.
If you've never seen it, take the time to check out Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island, you won't be disappointed. Unless you never liked Scooby-Doo to begin with, but even then I recommend giving it a chance. It's the smartest and most well done story in the franchise's history.
I have to agree the films are getting worse and worse,
Scooby-Doo and the Witches Ghost was a decent sequel, not as good as Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island, but still enjoyable. Scooby-Doo and the Alien Invaders had a much lighter tone compared to the other two movies and for the most part it's just ok. Scooby-Doo and Cyber Chase is about as good as the previous one, but makes up for it with a Turtles Forever like plot where the Scooby gang get to work with their past digital selves from Scooby-Doo Where Are You?. Every movie after that is exactly what you'd think a direct to video Scooby movie would be; predictable and forgettable.
Remember Shaggy and Scooby? Aren't they the main characters? I miss those days :(
They probably don't give Shaggy as much screen time anymore because Matthew Lillard does such a horrible Shaggy impersonation. I'd say that they only hired him because he did Shaggy in the live-action movies, but even that doesn’t make any sense because...
Anyone else see Looney Tunes Back in Action? There's a scene in the movie where the cartoon Shaggy and Scooby complain to Matthew Lillard about his performance in the live-action movies. The scene goes like this:
Shaggy: What kind of performance do you call that?! You made me sound like a total space cadet, man!
Matthew: I'm sorry you feel that way, I was just trying to be really into your character.
Shaggy: If you, like, goof on me in the sequel, hahaha-I'm coming after you!
So there you go, Warner Bros admitted that Matt's Shaggy voice is terrible, and then they went and hired him as the official voice of Shaggy! Arrgggh!
Found a clip of the scene on YouTube:
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Wildcat
03-08-2014, 12:54 AM
I really liked Scooby Doo on Zombie Island/Witches Ghost/Alien Invaders/Cyber Chase and wanted to see more of that animation/art style but there has been some good Scooby movies since then...
Aloha, Loch Ness Monster, Camp Scare, Abracadbra-Doo and Mask of the Blue Falcon. These are the ones I felt were entertaining but still kept the writing plausible without being too over the top.
They weren't as serious as Zombie Island/Witches Ghost...or semi-serious as Alien Invaders/Cyber Chase but they weren't meant to be.
Aloha and Loch Ness (along with the others from that era) used the art style of the 'Whats New?' series which is fine but I really like that they've adopted the classic style for the more recent ones. I mean you can tell its based on the original look except cleaned up. Its nice.
They could have easily used the Mystery Inc. style which I never really liked.
ObiWanFan4life
03-08-2014, 11:01 AM
Crash Canyon - It gives Brickleberry a run for it's money in the plagiarism department. But whereas that show ripped off Family Guy's animation and South Parks humor, THIS show steals from Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, and The Cleveland Show.
Leofan26
03-08-2014, 02:04 PM
I really liked Scooby Doo on Zombie Island/Witches Ghost/Alien Invaders/Cyber Chase and wanted to see more of that animation/art style but there has been some good Scooby movies since then...
Aloha, Loch Ness Monster, Camp Scare, Abracadbra-Doo and Mask of the Blue Falcon. These are the ones I felt were entertaining but still kept the writing plausible without being too over the top.
They weren't as serious as Zombie Island/Witches Ghost...or semi-serious as Alien Invaders/Cyber Chase but they weren't meant to be.
Aloha and Loch Ness (along with the others from that era) used the art style of the 'Whats New?' series which is fine but I really like that they've adopted the classic style for the more recent ones. I mean you can tell its based on the original look except cleaned up. Its nice.
They could have easily used the Mystery Inc. style which I never really liked.
It's the newer ones, for me they've been too Fred / Daph romance lately. We get it, they are like Soul mates of this series, we don't need every freakin film to tell us this. Not to mention it takes away from the other characters, not just Shaggy either but Scooby - Doo ( Who's supposed to be the main character )
I did like the newer films till after the few of Mask of the Blue Falcon, I just can't get into the series now do to what I just said.
Wildcat
03-08-2014, 03:52 PM
It's the newer ones, for me they've been too Fred / Daph romance lately. We get it, they are like Soul mates of this series, we don't need every freakin film to tell us this. Not to mention it takes away from the other characters, not just Shaggy either but Scooby - Doo ( Who's supposed to be the main character )
I did like the newer films till after the few of Mask of the Blue Falcon, I just can't get into the series now do to what I just said.Actually I don't think the Fred/Daphne relationship is that in-your-face. The only one where it was a big thing was in the more recent Stage Fright. Unless youre referring to the TV series too.
Maybe they'll continue from where Stage Fright left off but the others still get alot of screen time. The ratio between characters seems pretty balanced imo.
Ive never really thought of Scooby as the main character exactly. Its all of them. I mean even in the original its not really focused on him.
Leofan26
03-09-2014, 01:26 AM
Actually I don't think the Fred/Daphne relationship is that in-your-face. The only one where it was a big thing was in the more recent Stage Fright. Unless youre referring to the TV series too.
Maybe they'll continue from where Stage Fright left off but the others still get alot of screen time. The ratio between characters seems pretty balanced imo.
Ive never really thought of Scooby as the main character exactly. Its all of them. I mean even in the original its not really focused on him.
The last few that I've seen on Cartoon Network have either Fred or Daph getting jealous of the character of the day film, which takes up a good portion of it besides solving that mystery which is Fred's thing. So, what does that leave for Velma / Shaggy / Scooby? You never thought Scooby was the main character of the series? Did you not ever watch the 80s shows? 13 Ghosts of Scooby - Doo? All the Scooby and Scrappy shows? The first three films? In the first series I'd agree with you on that, seemed to have the perfect balance of the characters while making you know who the star was. New viewers must be confused thinking Fred's the main character and that Scooby's just a mascot, which is nuts! Not that I hate Fred like I used to, back in th older shows I hated that guy cuz of how bossy he was to the guy's, now I like him but doesn't mean, oh you get what I mean right?
Mostly I can't stand how much the romance has been done as of late. I prefer the 90s films, Zombie Islands / Witch's Ghost films, they knew how to work with it while not leaving the other characters behind :ohwell:
Type 97 Chi-ha
03-09-2014, 10:32 AM
I remember the old generation Scooby-Doo. The van was plain white with the sign "THE MYSTERY MACHINE" on the upper rear part of each side, and the only dog was Scooby himself, though another dog (I cannot remember his name alas) would be brought in for a few guest appearances later in the cartoon's run. No romances between the leads.
Wildcat
03-09-2014, 07:47 PM
The last few that I've seen on Cartoon Network have either Fred or Daph getting jealous of the character of the day film, which takes up a good portion of it besides solving that mystery which is Fred's thing. So, what does that leave for Velma / Shaggy / Scooby? You never thought Scooby was the main character of the series? Did you not ever watch the 80s shows? 13 Ghosts of Scooby - Doo? All the Scooby and Scrappy shows? The first three films? In the first series I'd agree with you on that, seemed to have the perfect balance of the characters while making you know who the star was. New viewers must be confused thinking Fred's the main character and that Scooby's just a mascot, which is nuts! Not that I hate Fred like I used to, back in th older shows I hated that guy cuz of how bossy he was to the guy's, now I like him but doesn't mean, oh you get what I mean right?
Mostly I can't stand how much the romance has been done as of late. I prefer the 90s films, Zombie Islands / Witch's Ghost films, they knew how to work with it while not leaving the other characters behind :ohwell:Ive seen a handful of the spin-offs or whatever you wanna call them. 13 Ghosts, Scooby and Scrappy, Movies (those hour long ones) The focus seems a little more Scooby oriented because its more comedic or the human characters are shifted for story.
I don't think new viewers would think Fred is the main character nowadays. Like I said, I think they all get a balanced amount of time. Its not like the stories follow Fred everywhere. They all get their respective scenes in a given film...Fred's the trap guy whos kind of a kid at heart, Daphne is the girly one, Velma is the nerd, Scooby and Shaggy eat alot and get caught up in ghost/villain chases.
There is the romance, that up til now was only suggested (who knows how much they'll pour it on), but at least it makes sense for Fred and Daphne. Velma and Shaggy in Mystery Inc. seemed forced to me.
ObiWanFan4life
03-17-2014, 08:50 AM
Breadwinners - If this is show is any indicator of the future, I am VERY frightened to wonder what's in store for Nickelodeon down the road. Stupid, Juvenile, and Insulting Garbage
Walkabout
03-18-2014, 12:10 AM
Captain Planet !
You got it man!
Vicky82
03-19-2014, 05:52 PM
Worst cartoons
Mummies Alive
Bucky O Hare
Captain Planet
Where on Earth is Carmen San diago
Street Sharks
The Little Mermaid (The Series)
Digimon
Pokemon
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
Skeleton Warriors
Toxic Crusaders
Samurai Pizza Cats
Swat Cats
Extreme Dinosaurs
My Little Pony Tales
Defenders of the Earth
Battle of the Planets
Jem
Buzz Lightyear of star command
Lloyd in Space
Spiderman 2003 show
Brandy and Mr Whiskers
Walkabout
03-19-2014, 05:56 PM
Toxic Crusaders RULED, how dare you! :lol:
Samurai Pizza Cats was pretty awesome too, I seem to remember liking Defenders Of The Earth too come to think of it (all I really remember is the song and Ming)
snake
03-19-2014, 07:15 PM
Breadwinners - If this is show is any indicator of the future, I am VERY frightened to wonder what's in store for Nickelodeon down the road. Stupid, Juvenile, and Insulting Garbage
I hate that show.
ObiWanFan4life
03-19-2014, 08:11 PM
I hate that show.
You know what, I'll give Sanjay and Craig at least a little credit for not being....whatever the hell this is.
MsMarvelDuckie
03-19-2014, 10:48 PM
Yeah, I'm with you guys on that one. WTF??!! Cartoons have gone WAAAY downhill since I was a kid.
TMNT_Guy
03-20-2014, 01:49 AM
Worst cartoons
Samurai Pizza Cats
Swat Cats
Wha-? Those two are some of my favorite cartoons of all time. I will have to kindly disagree with you, good sir.
Wildcat
03-20-2014, 02:07 AM
Swat Kats was great. Such cool villains and overall characters.
Pokemon started out much better than it is now.
ZariusTwo
03-20-2014, 03:12 AM
Swat Kats was great. Such cool villains and overall characters.
Pokemon started out much better than it is now.
As far as I'm concerned, Pokemon ended when Ash won the orange islands, I also count the Mewtwo strikes back trailer with Misty and her daughter as the canonical ending.
Worst cartoons
Mummies Alive
Bucky O Hare
Captain Planet
Where on Earth is Carmen San diago
Street Sharks
The Little Mermaid (The Series)
Digimon
Pokemon
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
Skeleton Warriors
Toxic Crusaders
Samurai Pizza Cats
Swat Cats
Defenders of the Earth
Battle of the Planets
Jem
Buzz Lightyear of star command
Lloyd in Space
Brandy and Mr Whiskers
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ObiWanFan4life
08-01-2014, 10:21 AM
Speaking of Swat Kats, can you believe that the creators of the show went from that to this ?
If you have a sick stomach, this might be unsettling.
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CharmedSerenity
08-01-2014, 10:42 AM
*throws her own list in*
Ren and Stimpy
Adventure Time
The Simpsons
Teen Titans Go
Angela Anaconda
Transformers: Energon
Spongebob Squarepants
Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends
Fairly Odd Parents
American Dad
Brickleberry
Family Guy
Mikey_1992
08-01-2014, 11:04 AM
I saw one episode of The Cleverland Show and it was so boring to watch.
ssjup81
08-01-2014, 01:52 PM
I'm having a tough time trying to think of animated shows I disliked as a child...but maybe I could say GI Joe. Not sure if I'd consider it the worst though. It just didn't appeal to me.
Prowler
08-02-2014, 10:04 PM
The Simpsons
What don't you like about it?
Netkeeper
08-02-2014, 10:44 PM
I also count the Mewtwo strikes back trailer with Misty and her daughter as the canonical ending.
What are you even talking about? Not even Bulbapedia says anything about any daughter. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/M01#Trivia) Misty is like ****ing 12, max. I don't care if you're a Pokéshipper, I got nothing against the ship, but don't be delusional.
TurtleTitan97
08-02-2014, 10:56 PM
What are you even talking about? Not even Bulbapedia says anything about any daughter. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/M01#Trivia) Misty is like ****ing 12, max. I don't care if you're a Pokéshipper, I got nothing against the ship, but don't be delusional.
He's talking about the first Japanese trailer for the movie:
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Apparently, Mewtwo Strikes Back was suppose to be a finale for the series. But that was before it was realized how popular it would become.
Netkeeper
08-02-2014, 11:06 PM
Why was this never on any article or coverage I've ever seen about the movie? Either way, I prefer the later Pokémon movies and I REALLY prefer Mewtwo Returns so I don't care.
ZariusTwo
08-03-2014, 06:57 AM
I found out about that trailer through TVTropes about a year ago, I even tried inserting it into the ending of Pokemon 2000 as a fanedit (suffice to say, it was a poor effort)
Leo656
08-03-2014, 07:59 AM
Anybody mention either of the old Fantastic Four cartoons? I feel like those deserve a mention...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10294235_531293763636954_675750890251208018_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10534541_531292416970422_8560199839500951329_n.jpg
:lol::lol::lol:
ObiWanFan4life
08-03-2014, 08:02 AM
Those were horrendous. :lol: Nowhere near as bad as Superfriends though.
Leo656
08-03-2014, 08:04 AM
Those parody strips always crack me up. :lol:
"We're the Fantastic Four!"
"I ****ING KNOW!" :lol:
I'm gonna add a note to your statement, though, and say that 1980s Super-Friends was easily better than any of those... actually by the time it got to be "Super-Powers: Galactic Guardians" it had become the best super-hero cartoon ever, up to that point. So Super-Friends was kind of like an ugly caterpillar that eventually turned into a stylin' butterfly. It just took almost 15 seasons to get there. :lol:
ObiWanFan4life
08-03-2014, 08:55 AM
The Problem Solverz - It's painfully unfunny, It's porly written, and it gives new meaning to the word eyesore.
CharmedSerenity
08-03-2014, 02:57 PM
What don't you like about it?
Everything!
Netkeeper
08-03-2014, 02:59 PM
I found out about that trailer through TVTropes about a year ago, I even tried inserting it into the ending of Pokemon 2000 as a fanedit (suffice to say, it was a poor effort)
Strange how I've never seen a Pokéshipper parade that trailer like it was their life. Those people can get pretty crazy. [Not as crazy as the Rocketshippers tho who look for evidence that doesn't exist :V At least Pokéshipping DOES have evidence that exists!]
ZariusTwo
08-03-2014, 03:14 PM
Strange how I've never seen a Pokéshipper parade that trailer like it was their life. Those people can get pretty crazy. [Not as crazy as the Rocketshippers tho who look for evidence that doesn't exist :V At least Pokéshipping DOES have evidence that exists!]
Rocketshipping is canon to at least the mangas I think, they just latch on to that and think "oh it'll be the end goal", yeah, end goal as in "Ash winning a tournament", you're gonna be waiting a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong-ass time...:D
arkangel
08-03-2014, 03:44 PM
This one is quite old and obsure, so I'm interested in knowing if anyone has seen it.
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I called it creepy teepy. Scariest **** you'll ever watch. Nothing to do with the fact that they were all of North American native ethnicity . It was because they were creepy f'n puppets dude !!!!!!!!!The grandpa was all wrinked and grinning. Ahhhhhhhhhh!!! Still scares the crap out of me just thinking about it. :o
Netkeeper
08-03-2014, 07:23 PM
Rocketshipping is canon to at least the mangas I think, they just latch on to that and think "oh it'll be the end goal", yeah, end goal as in "Ash winning a tournament", you're gonna be waiting a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong-ass time...:D
Yes, it is canon in the manga. But the manga and anime are two totally different continuities, so Rocketshippers that try to say it's canon in the anime are pretty blind.
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