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miru
12-01-2013, 11:13 AM
As of now, I am through with consoles.


Recent sales data for WiiU and Ps4 have been quite low, but the Xbox One's doing fairly well.
So this means the console on top is a pile of trash selling in brand name recognition alone. If that's the case, I'm done with consoles, which are probably doomed anyway. Anyone else agree with me about consoles.

Cure
12-01-2013, 11:17 AM
No. Go away.

Peanut
12-01-2013, 11:19 AM
Ugh. Drop dead, sh*thead. Your avatar means you know SH*T about games.

CyberCubed
12-01-2013, 11:22 AM
This thread is only true for Japan.

pingclang
12-01-2013, 11:22 AM
They aren't doing well because there's nothing to frickin play on them, not because they're dead. If you're not into shooters there isn't really anything other than Assassin`s Creed or Knack (sp?) soooo it's more the piss-poor release than the consoles.

tmnt transformer
12-01-2013, 11:38 AM
Really.... the more pointless threads that come from uninformed losers like miru will mean the death of these boards...:tgrumble:

The Stryker
12-01-2013, 01:12 PM
They aren't doing well because there's nothing to frickin play on them, not because they're dead. If you're not into shooters there isn't really anything other than Assassin`s Creed or Knack (sp?) soooo it's more the piss-poor release than the consoles.

3 out of 20 is 'Nothing but shooters?'

Whatswiththeheadbands?
12-01-2013, 01:18 PM
..............................................

Console gaming is NOT dead. The PS4 and Xbox one are selling extremely well, so console gaming is not dead.

Mods, i request a lock down.

CyberCubed
12-01-2013, 05:31 PM
Japan doesn't like the same games as the west. Everything EA, Activision, Ubisoft and Rockstar make is of no interest to Japan.

All Japanese companies like Capcom, Square, Konami, etc have struggled this gen.

Sony's The Last Guardian the sequel to Shadow of Collossus was announced back at the start of this gen and has been in development hell for like 7 years.

pingclang
12-01-2013, 05:45 PM
3 out of 20 is 'Nothing but shooters?'

I never said "Nothing but shooters," I said if you're not into them. Don't misquote me if you're gonna criticize. I just mentioned shooters since, at least where I live, those are the only games anyone talks about outside of AC and Knack.

Michelangelo
12-01-2013, 05:49 PM
I actually wish console gaming was dead because that would mean that virtual reality would have been successfully implemented for all to get on board. Until that day console gaming will be around with the rest of the platforms. Atm, it is too soon to tell how things will play out for this generation of gaming systems. To a certain extent it will be those who are new to the generation, the young, that will play a large role in how things go.
I personally want to see some new ground breaking games this generation, however there doesn't seem to be much on the horizon atm. Still, there is always hope.

The Stryker
12-01-2013, 05:50 PM
I never said "Nothing but shooters," I said if you're not into them. Don't misquote me if you're gonna criticize. I just mentioned shooters since, at least where I live, those are the only games anyone talks about outside of AC and Knack.

People talking about those games doesn't mean that all of the others don't exist.

Saying that there isn't much to play for people who aren't into shooters is completely wrong since there are only three in the combined launch line-up. Unless you consider Forza a shooter.

pingclang
12-01-2013, 06:01 PM
People talking about those games doesn't mean that all of the others don't exist.

Saying that there isn't much to play for people who aren't into shooters is completely wrong since there are only three in the combined launch line-up. Unless you consider Forza a shooter.

I'm not arguing with you since no matter what I say I'm wrong. You're an insufferable piece of ****, you know that? Do you just sit around waiting for people to make mistakes or say something wrong so you can correct and judge them? Every post I ever see from you it's the same story. Must be a full life you're leading there. It's people like you with that attitude that ruin this forum.

Michelangelo
12-01-2013, 06:02 PM
Within a year things will look very different from the way they do now with the xbox one and ps4 wrt to games. Time will tell as usual. I'm sure people will find something they like on the new generation consoles, for those that are into them, eventually.

Cure
12-01-2013, 06:10 PM
I'm not arguing with you since no matter what I say I'm wrong. You're an insufferable piece of ****, you know that? Do you just sit around waiting for people to make mistakes or say something wrong so you can correct and judge them? Every post I ever see from you it's the same story. Must be a full life you're leading there. It's people like you with that attitude that ruin this forum.

Geez, someone sure doesn't like being wrong and being called out on it.

The Stryker
12-01-2013, 06:11 PM
I'm not arguing with you since no matter what I say I'm wrong. You're an insufferable piece of ****, you know that? Do you just sit around waiting for people to make mistakes or say something wrong so you can correct and judge them? Every post I ever see from you it's the same story. Must be a full life you're leading there. It's people like you with that attitude that ruin this forum.

And there it is. Try not to say outright lies and maybe people won't correct you? Especially if you're going to be so damn touchy about it. You said that there aren't any games for people who don't like shooters on next-gen consoles. That just isn't true. Don't know how that's a problem.

Ninjinister
12-01-2013, 08:24 PM
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Whatswiththeheadbands?
12-02-2013, 10:17 AM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lp7t2enIZ51qdrnl5o1_500.gif

I have a dog like that.

Bakushan
12-02-2013, 12:11 PM
As of now, I am through with consoles.


Recent sales data for WiiU and Ps4 have been quite low, but the Xbox One's doing fairly well.
So this means the console on top is a pile of trash selling in brand name recognition alone. If that's the case, I'm done with consoles, which are probably doomed anyway. Anyone else agree with me about consoles.
I stopped playing console games in 1998 with the N64. Have not played since. No big deal. :)

Zulithe
12-02-2013, 12:33 PM
PS4 is selling every unit that comes off the factory assembly line so far. It just did record sales in its European launches.

It's still early in the gen but so far it looks like sales are very favorable.

We won't know more till we have more data. When supply catches up with demand by mid-year and see how sales look next holiday. There was lots of pent-up demand from core gamers for new consoles so the early sales have been excellent, but we need more time to see what the legs are like.

I also saw a stat a couple weeks back that PS4/Xbone tops the christmas wish list for boys, above an iphone or ipad. It's a good sign.

That said, android, ios and windows mobile devices have big advantages in that their install base doesn't reset every 6 to 8 years with a new machine. A developer can release a game on those platforms and know the install base is already there, and constantly growing and hardware being upgraded since most people are on a two year upgrade cycle in the USA. Going forward, consoles have to consider how this impacts things. Just one of their many challenges.

Metalwolf
12-02-2013, 12:34 PM
Only value in the Wii U for me is the Zelda games. I don't have much interest in anything else. Zelda U is going to be coming out eventually, but when that is, nobody knows.

Michelangelo
12-02-2013, 12:42 PM
Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.
Should be able to pick one up for cheap with all the games you want then. Just like what happened with the gamecube.
ps4 and xbox one are just superior consoles for power, so Nintendo is going to struggle with the Wii U unless they do something.

Ninjinister
12-02-2013, 02:17 PM
Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.


I'd wager not.

Storm Eagle
12-02-2013, 02:20 PM
Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.


Wishful thinking?

Jester
12-02-2013, 04:50 PM
The most recent console i own is a PSone so I feel that I'm more than qualified to speak to the death of console gaming....

I'm just jestin'....I got nothin' to say because I don't know squat.

Peanut
12-03-2013, 12:24 AM
There will always be people who want to play real games. If the industry stays as bloated and awful as it does now, or it shrinks by millions and goes back to N64/PS1 numbers, there will always be room in the world for console games as long as having a physical box under your TV makes sense.

CyberCubed
12-03-2013, 12:30 AM
Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.

No matter how poorly the Wii-U might sell overall, its likely still going to have at least a 5 year cycle. Nintendo isn't Sega, they're not going to kill off the Wii-U and release a new console to see it flop even harder.

Although its possible the Wii-U will only do Gamecube numbers in terms of overall sales. I guess we'll see next year when Donkey Kong, Mario Kart and Smash come out if sales pick up.

Peanut
12-03-2013, 09:13 AM
If sales don't pick up to some extent with 3D World there's a huge problem. Smash and Kart will move consoles, but Donkey Kong won't even budge the needle. We already know 3D World absolutely f*cking tanked in Japan, selling less than even SM64 did at its launch, but Japan seems more and more like an absolute wasteland for console games, or anything that isn't a phone game in general.

chrisdude
12-03-2013, 09:16 AM
As of now, I am through with consoles.


Recent sales data for WiiU and Ps4 have been quite low, but the Xbox One's doing fairly well.
So this means the console on top is a pile of trash selling in brand name recognition alone. If that's the case, I'm done with consoles, which are probably doomed anyway. Anyone else agree with me about consoles.
This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. PS4 is selling way harder than Xbox One.

Sony and Microsoft One both claimed to sell a million units in their first day.
Sony did that while launching just US and Canada, while Xbox did that while launching in 13 different countries (including the UK and Japan). THEN Sony launched in the UK and sold a quarter million units in 48 hours - the biggest console launch in UK history. So, worldwide, PS4 is outselling Xbox One, with far less territory.

And PS4 hasn't even launched in Japan, yet, where the Xbox isn't even competitive.


The Wii U is in trouble, though. Everyone hoped Wii U would pick up when the games came, but it hasn't worked. Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart are the last big Nintendo franchises yet to arrive on Wii U. It's all up to those two games.

Peanut
12-03-2013, 09:18 AM
If we're going to have this discussion can we not turn it into a f*cking console wars thread? You god damn people.

This isn't about the health of a single console, but the health of the industry as a whole.

chrisdude
12-03-2013, 09:21 AM
If we're going to have this discussion can we not turn it into a f*cking console wars thread? You god damn people.

This isn't about the health of a single console, but the health of the industry as a whole.My bad. I thought two consoles launched last month.

Peanut
12-03-2013, 02:01 PM
Entirely besides the point. Arguing that sh*t, even if one party is as woefully incorrect as he is, leads to nothing but warrior mentality. You're not necessarily going to do it, but you were the first one to start it, so let's not.

Dawnatello Turtle Chick
12-03-2013, 02:43 PM
Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.
Should be able to pick one up for cheap with all the games you want then. Just like what happened with the gamecube.
ps4 and xbox one are just superior consoles for power, so Nintendo is going to struggle with the Wii U unless they do something.

I thought I remembered reading somewhere (GameInformer??) that Nintendo's business model was to sell the system very inexpensively (basically at a loss) and as soon as the consumer purchased their first game it then became profitable. But when the company keeps losing planned games due to paying for the port-over wouldn't pay off for those gaming companies it does make it harder to win over new console buyers. Maybe if they can bring in more new customers with their bigger titles that are coming up they could turn it around (I personally don't see it happening). But honestly I don't see how they could afford to sell them much cheaper and stay afloat. However, I do see how the secondary market for Wii-U could become very affordable in the not too distant future. Just my couple of pennies...

tmnt transformer
12-03-2013, 02:56 PM
Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.
Should be able to pick one up for cheap with all the games you want then. Just like what happened with the gamecube.
ps4 and xbox one are just superior consoles for power, so Nintendo is going to struggle with the Wii U unless they do something.

Dude, really? The Wii U is a powerful system.... It just needs a game to use it's full power.... I'm sure that the Zelda U developers are working on useing all of it's power... same if retro studios makes another metroid game It'll be the same way.... People where saying the same thing about the 3DS....

chrisdude
12-03-2013, 05:08 PM
Entirely besides the point. Arguing that sh*t, even if one party is as woefully incorrect as he is, leads to nothing but warrior mentality. You're not necessarily going to do it, but you were the first one to start it, so let's not.Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.

Candy Kappa
12-03-2013, 05:14 PM
I thought I remembered reading somewhere (GameInformer??) that Nintendo's business model was to sell the system very inexpensively (basically at a loss) and as soon as the consumer purchased their first game it then became profitable.

That's what they all do.

Krutch
12-03-2013, 05:15 PM
Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.

I like this quote :)

Jester
12-03-2013, 05:16 PM
Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.

Sales Figures = Relevant
"PS4/XB1/WIIU is teh best console and the others suck" = Flame Bait.

He's just saying (in his own special way) that you weren't deep in the "Flame Bait" ballpark, but it could open the flood gates.

Peanut
12-03-2013, 05:51 PM
Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.

F*ck civility. We've never been civil in this section, we've never pretended to be. We've also always sh*t on people who use numbers to measure dicks. Want to use numbers to back up a relevant opinion in a thread relevant to your opinion? No problem. Want to argue about the quality of a game, but have no real opinions/arguments of your own and then post a bunch of review scores to justify it? Go f*ck yourself.

Your post had sh*t all to do with the topic at hand, it was just dick waving over sold numbers on two consoles. Also, the context to which I was referring to console wars doesn't = consoles fighting for supremacy. It was console wars = clowns arguing with other clowns to justify their purchasing decisions. In that instance, yes, console wars are wholly irrelevant to the topic at hand.

And a very hearty VG Section "Pfffft!" to your typical "I'm above all your Internet bullsh*t lawl!" response. We've seen far better.

pannoni1
12-03-2013, 06:09 PM
Like TV, there's nothing like the experience of a big screen that provides a realistic experience. In away, playing games in front of a huge monitor will remain for quite sometime. That said, the standalone console unit may eventually disappear, since today's TVs can connect online, and once that becomes user-friendly enough, games will become primarly download. But remember that in the music industry, the CD isn't totally dead just yet despite being out of vogue for about a decade now, so there will still be a devoted niche audience to consoles/discs for awhile.

Michelangelo
12-03-2013, 07:50 PM
Ultimately console gaimg has to be doomed.
Whether it happens in this generation or the next it has to end, at least in the form that we have become accustomed to. By that I mean a box, a tv and a controller. Having played games all my life I'll still play kid icarus on my NES and have fun or landstalker on my megadrive and be engrossed but in the end I really want something new. The kinect is the only thing I've seen that tries to really change the gameplay experience to a really personal level, but it's still limited atm. Virtual reality if properly implemented will surely take over. Until then about the only advances we may expect in games is better graphics and in that sense all gaming is doomed.

Cure
12-03-2013, 10:07 PM
You know, most people are stuck in the past, but you must be the first who's stuck waaaaaaaaaay in the future with that virtual reality stuff. Good job.

Peanut
12-03-2013, 10:15 PM
Ultimately console gaimg has to be doomed.

Ultimately the very existence of the entire f*cking universe is doomed. Saying something will eventually stop existing isn't really saying anything at all.

PizzaPower
01-18-2014, 05:19 PM
well Playstation Now is coming soon, and you dont need a console for that. I'm very happy with my PS4, PS3, Vita, and DS for right now. I think as long as consoles keep coming out people will keep buying them, and when they stop making them it will be a sad day. I think there will be at least one or two more console generations, but they will be digital only.

CyberCubed
01-18-2014, 05:23 PM
If both Sony and Nintendo stop making consoles by the end of this generation then it will be a shame.

PizzaPower
01-19-2014, 07:15 AM
i agree, although I dont think Nintendo is done quite yet.

Hyderette
03-18-2014, 09:46 PM
Consoles aren't going anywhere because there are too many hot pocket eater, dino chicken nugget cruncher console kids with mommys credit card in hand for devs to ignore. Millions of little ***** turned 12 today and got "Ex Baux" for their birthday. Millions more tomorrow.

Inescapable Truth out.

Peanut
03-18-2014, 10:43 PM
Well, you're immediately written off as a total POS, random guy bumping dumb threads.

Good work, you're clearly a well adjusted adult!

Turo602
03-18-2014, 10:54 PM
I think someone's just mad that their mommy didn't get them an "Ex Baux" for their last birthday.

Cure
03-18-2014, 11:16 PM
Come on, guys. At least "dino chicken nugget cruncher" was good for a laugh.