When will we see the "real" Wingnut show up?

[CyberCubed]

As we know Mikey calling April's Dad, "Wingnut" as a joke, but the toy confirms his name is Kirby-bat.

Ciro Nieli posted concept art of Wingnut and Screwloose around a year ago:

http://oi39.tinypic.com/2vjubyf.jpg

Now while its possible this concept art was scraped and been abandoned, it at least shows they were considering bringing the two of them into the series at some point. Also notice Screwloose who hasn't been left out.

Do you think we'll see them? And will they still be aliens or be changed into mutants?

[Jester]

Right behind the "Real" Krang. :D

[CyberCubed]

Right behind the "Real" Krang. :D

The real Krang has already appeared and I quite like it. :D

[Jester]

Was it ever specifically mentioned if Kraang Prime was a male or female? (S)he could still have icky girl cooties, Cubed.

[CyberCubed]

Was it ever specifically mentioned if Kraang Prime was a male or female? (S)he could still have icky girl cooties, Cubed.

Ciro called Kraang Prime a, "he" in one of the interviews right before the finale aired.

[Jester]

Ciro called Kraang Prime a, "he" in one of the interviews right before the finale aired.
Oh...well that makes it 100% canon.

[CyberCubed]

Oh...well that makes it 100% canon.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but Kraang Prime is male.

Female voice actors play a lot of male characters in cartoons, especially young boys.

[Jester]

Female voice actors play a lot of male characters in cartoons, especially young boys.
Mostly young boys....or female characters, but seldom is ever adult male characters.

[Coola Yagami]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but Kraang Prime is male.

Female voice actors play a lot of male characters in cartoons, especially young boys.

Kraang Prime still isn't Krang... and what if the the toy released IS called Wingnut? Kirbybat could have been a prototype, and he was never called as such in the show.

[Andrew NDB]

Was it ever even established that the Kraang have any gender?

[Jester]

Was it ever even established that the Kraang have any gender?
Species wide? Nowhere as far as I recall, aside from the exo-suits....

EDIT: Also, this thread needs to be locked....;)

[Coola Yagami]

Species wide? Nowhere as far as I recall, aside from the exo-suits....

EDIT: Also, this thread needs to be locked....;)

har har I see what you did there...

[CyberCubed]

Kraang Prime still isn't Krang... and what if the the toy released IS called Wingnut? Kirbybat could have been a prototype, and he was never called as such in the show.

It's called Kirby-bat because it sounds better than just calling the toy, "kirby."

[Electric]

The real Krang has already appeared and I quite like it. :D

kraang prime is not necessarily krang, but kirbybat has been called wingnut. most likely, the only wingnut.

those sketches were probably scrapped and they switched to this design instead.

[CyberCubed]

We don't know if these sketches have been scrapped though.

[Coola Yagami]

It's called Kirby-bat because it sounds better than just calling the toy, "kirby."

...or Wingnut.

To be fair, they probably haven't even thought of mutating April's dad when they made that sketch.

[CyberCubed]

...or Wingnut.

To be fair, they probably haven't even thought of mutating April's dad when they made that sketch.

It depends I guess. They could still use these sketches to bring them into the series. Wingnut/Screwloose as a pair would work especially if the Turtles go into Dimension X to finally save Leatherhead.

[miru]

kraang prime is not necessarily krang, but kirbybat has been called wingnut. most likely, the only wingnut.

those sketches were probably scrapped and they switched to this design instead.

Maybe this "Wingnut" mutates into a different form, or is one of countless "wingnuts"?

[Coola Yagami]

It depends I guess. They could still use these sketches to bring them into the series. Wingnut/Screwloose as a pair would work especially if the Turtles go into Dimension X to finally save Leatherhead.

That could work, especially if they say the Kraang terraformed their home world and killed all life there and they want revenge. I just wish they never dropped the name Wingnut to begin with. What a delightful coincidence they happen to find an alien bat that calls himself the exact same nickname Mikey called April's father in Dimension X?

[Cipher]

That could work, especially if they say the Kraang terraformed their home world and killed all life there and they want revenge. I just wish they never dropped the name Wingnut to begin with. What a delightful coincidence they happen to find an alien bat that calls himself the exact same nickname Mikey called April's father in Dimension X?
Oooooor, he has some non-English name and Mikey decides that this bat will be called Wingnut.

I deem this plausible, only for the presence of that sketch.

[The Sewer Lord]

Oooooor, he has some non-English name and Mikey decides that this bat will be called Wingnut.

That's pretty plausible. I do hope it happens.

[Andrew NDB]

The idea of Wingnut and Screwloose coming out of a gateway to Dimension X, flying around rooftops in the Nick TMNT show, bantering back and forth as they go around throwing rocks at people seems perfectly in the show's wheelhouse. In fact, if I had to take one thing from the Archie material, it'd probably be them. Pity if the idea is poo-pooed because of April's dad, who didn't even need to be mutated.

[Coola Yagami]

The idea of Wingnut and Screwloose coming out of a gateway to Dimension X, flying around rooftops in the Nick TMNT show, bantering back and forth as they go around throwing rocks at people seems perfectly in the show's wheelhouse. In fact, if I had to take one thing from the Archie material, it'd probably be them. Pity if the idea is poo-pooed because of April's dad, who didn't even need to be mutated.

Honestly, they should. And I mean the whole bit, with the whole my faithful screwloose, plankton chip, screwloose putting wingnut to sleep by sucking out his blood, all of that. They should totally go for it.

[CrazySquirrel]

I forgot about this sketch... good for still having some hope to see real Wingnut.... not much but a glimmer. :)

[rodster6]

I'd love to See Wingnut and Screwloose in the new show as I liked them in the old comics but as usual with the 80s toon, was disappointed with their portrayal.
I'd love to see all the Mutanimals get introduced and eventually form a team.We already have Leatherhead. Wingnut, Screwloose, Ray Fillet and Mondo Gecko would be great.

[Bishop123]

I notice in the bottom left of the image, there's a number saying "210". Assuming it wasn't scrapped, its possible this could be the production number of the episode he debuts in.

[The Sewer Lord]

I notice in the bottom left of the image, there's a number saying "210". Assuming it wasn't scrapped, its possible this could be the production number of the episode he debuts in.

Well, we're down to the seventh episode of the second season, that means there are two episodes left 'till Wingnut's debut. :o

[n-zero]

MIKEY: Look out for Wingnut!

DONNIE: Isn't that what you called April's Dad?

MIKEY: Yes. But you said I couldn't give him a monster name, and I really like the name Wingnut.

[Coola Yagami]

MIKEY: Look out for Wingnut!

DONNIE: Isn't that what you called April's Dad?

MIKEY: Yes. But you said I couldn't give him a monster name, and I really like the name Wingnut.

Honestly though, Wingnut should be an alien and should already be named as such. We don't need Mikey to name him. Unless he has some weird alien name and then Mikey calls him Wingnut.

[miru]

The figure of April's Dad is officialy named KirbyBat, so Wingnut is plausible.

[oldmanwinters]

On the TMNT fan club pic page, Kirby Bat did receive a "wingnut" tag.
http://www.tmntfanclub.com/

[CyberCubed]

Kirby-bat is not Wingnut.

Perhaps the idea to bring Wingnut into the show was scrapped, but Kirby-bat isn't him.

[miru]

Kirby-bat is not Wingnut.

Perhaps the idea to bring Wingnut into the show was scrapped, but Kirby-bat isn't him.

The tag indicates he will eventually become Wingnut, like Dogpound became Rahzar.

[tylerdavies]

The tag indicates he will eventually become Wingnut, like Dogpound became Rahzar.

yea i was just thinking that actually after reading through this. Kirby might get oozed again and become the REAL Wingnut. He'd probably regain his human intelligence and become some sort of superhero - just an idea. I can only assume that a mosquito might suck his mutant blood and become Screwloose - making them a duo.

[CyberCubed]

Sounds rather odd given Kirby will probably be demutated by the end of the season. Also where would Screwloose come from?

[Powder]

Me: Is there aaaaany chance you could confirm or deny whether or not Kirby is officially being regarded as this series' Wingnut, or was it just a joke used by Mikey? Lotta fans are split on this issue, especially considering the concept art for Wingnut from a year or so ago is a completely different thing than what we've seen Kirby become.

Ciro: Likely def not wingnut

Make of that what you will. :tlol:

[CyberCubed]

He better not be Wingnut.

[Kevin G]

He better not be Wingnut.

Why ? Would it really irk you that much that past Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles characters get new origins ?

[BabyTurtles]

I think Kirby is Wingnut.....

it's not like Ciro is gonna make all the old characters exactly what they were before.

[TurtleTitan97]

I think Kirby is Wingnut.....

it's not like Ciro is gonna make all the old characters exactly what they were before.

^ This. Well said BabyTurtles

[CyberCubed]

He's not Wingnut. For one thing April's Dad will probably be demutated by the seasons end.

Secondly just because he's a bat doesn't mean he's Wingnut.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

I think Kirby is Wingnut.....

it's not like Ciro is gonna make all the old characters exactly what they were before.

Yeah, defiantly this. It's always fresh and exciting to have a new twist on a character. Slash, for example.

Kirby bat is probably wingnut.

[CyberCubed]

Kirby-bat is called Kirby-bat on the toy, he's not Wingnut.

[Papenbrook]

Until Ciro or the show itself confirms that Kirby-Bat is Wingnut, the theory remains jossed.

[Powder]

The fact he wouldn't confirm or deny it definitely suggests there's more to it, I say.

[CyberCubed]

The final toy packaging still says Kirby-bat. Obviously such a lame name would not be used if this was really Wingnut.

[Colonel Schrader]

maybe while trying to cure him, he gets double dipped like dogpound and then becomes Wingnut.

[CyberCubed]

maybe while trying to cure him, he gets double dipped like dogpound and then becomes Wingnut.

Doesn't make much sense if he's going to be demutated. With Rahzar they're probably never going to demutated him.

[BabyTurtles]

Kirby-bat is called Kirby-bat on the toy, he's not Wingnut.

but didn't Mikey call him Wingnut?

I thought that was proof enough that Kirby-bat is just another version of Wingnut?

yea his name is Kirby-bat....but what do you expect? April would be upset if the boys gave her dad a mutant name.........

[Coola Yagami]

He's Wingnut til proven otherwise. Again, what are the chances an alien bat from Dimension X has the same nickname Mikey gave to April's father?

[CyberCubed]

He's Wingnut til proven otherwise. Again, what are the chances an alien bat from Dimension X has the same nickname Mikey gave to April's father?

No he isn't. Wingnut was used as a throwaway joke to older fans since kids watching the show have no idea who Wingnut is. If it was his real name it would be stated properly like Rahzar was and the toy is also named Rahzar. They don't still call him Dogpound anymore.

The toy is named Kirby bat and that's what kids will read and think if him as. Not Wingnut.

My guess is the concept art of Wingnut was scraped and Ciro decided not to bring him into the show since they found no use for him.

[BabyTurtles]

No he isn't. Wingnut was used as a throwaway joke to older fans since kids watching the show have no idea who Wingnut is. If it was his real name it would be stated properly like Rahzar was and the toy is also named Rahzar. They don't still call him Dogpound anymore.

The toy is named Kirby bat and that's what kids will read and think if him as. Not Wingnut.

My guess is the concept art of Wingnut was scraped and Ciro decided not to bring him into the show since they found no use for him.

soo.....you really don't want Kirby to be Wingnut huh? why? :-?

it's not like it's a big deal or anything......unless he was your favorite character or something?

[Jester]

I'd prefer to have an actual Wingnut myself actually. Just seems like a unnecessary bastardization. Heck, they could introduce him as a mutant/alien that the Turtles initially confuse for Kirby.

[CyberCubed]

Wingnut himself is not a big deal to me, I just don't want Kirby and that design to be him.

Wingnut was only in one episode of the old show and in the Archie series he was a lackey. He was never a pivotal character but I wouldn't mind seeing him.

[Coola Yagami]

Wingnut himself is not a big deal to me, I just don't want Kirby and that design to be him.

Wingnut was only in one episode of the old show and in the Archie series he was a lackey. He was never a pivotal character but I wouldn't mind seeing him.

Being part of a superhero team is considered being a lackey? Go home Cyber, you're drunk.

I'm thinking April will never have her father back. IF and I do mean IF he gets cured, I wouldn't be surprised if he flat out dies in season 3 just so they won't have to think up any other excuses to get rid of him for another season.

[BabyTurtles]

Being part of a superhero team is considered being a lackey? Go home Cyber, you're drunk.

I'm thinking April will never have her father back. IF and I do mean IF he gets cured, I wouldn't be surprised if he flat out dies in season 3 just so they won't have to think up any other excuses to get rid of him for another season.

why do they have to make up excuses for him? XD
why not just have Kirby be part of the show? he doesn't have to show up as much or anything...and it's not like Kirby won't allow April to see the turtles

buuuuuut if they don't want him part of the show....they could just hospitalize him....ya know after the whole mutation thing....for season 3 XD

[Metalwolf]

No he isn't. Wingnut was used as a throwaway joke to older fans since kids watching the show have no idea who Wingnut is. If it was his real name it would be stated properly like Rahzar was and the toy is also named Rahzar. They don't still call him Dogpound anymore.

The toy is named Kirby bat and that's what kids will read and think if him as. Not Wingnut.

Yes, I agree and I think the toy boxes are often a good clue. The 'Wingnut' was a jokes, pure and simple, and I think it would hurt things if Kirby got mutated yet more, since it might be likely that double mutation is irreversible.

[Coola Yagami]

buuuuuut if they don't want him part of the show....they could just hospitalize him....ya know after the whole mutation thing....for season 3 XD

There ya go! Now you're thinking like a Nick exec! Give this lady a raise! :D

[BabyTurtles]

There ya go! Now you're thinking like a Nick exec! Give this lady a raise! :D

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6yyapjzyK1qewv88.gif

[rickwj324]

I'm thinking that an actual Wingnut won't appear on this show. I think Kirby was just an homage to the character and Mikey calling him that was just a wink-wink moment to those that remember the classic character. But what are the odds that Mikey would create a nickname like "Wingnut" for Kirby and then an actual Mutant or Alien will later be on the show whose name is Wingnut?! I doubt that would happen....

The classic Wingnut figure is one of my favorites!! Would've loved to see a new figure of him. I really don't care for the Kirby design, but he will definitely be added to my collection! :tgrin:

[Powder]

M- "Argh! It's Wingnut!"

D- "Isn't that what you were calling Aprils Dad?"

M- "...until she hit me, yes, but I really like this name & he's a creepy bat thing!"

I'm no writer, but I could see it going that way in the event they bring in the classic character.

[Jester]

M- "Argh! It's Wingnut!"

D- "Isn't that what you were calling Aprils Dad?"

M- "...until she hit me, yes, but I really like this name & he's a creepy bat thing!"

I'm no writer, but I could see it going that way in the event they bring in the classic character.
Kinda reminds me of this guy's proposed scene:
"Can I call THIS one Wingnut?"
"Ok...fine..."

[ninja-zero]

Perhaps Kirby will become the REAL Wingnut when he gets double mutated again.

I mean his head is so big! Perhaps it'll explode and Kirby will gain some muscle and intelligence.

But that's if Kirby will get his intelligence again, get his revenge on the turtles and April tries to stop him. Eventually, the turtles tried to save him again but when he falls into the mutagen and mutates again like Dogpound becoming Rahzar, he redeems himself and gains a friend out of Screwloose.

[MisfitKraang]

Perhaps Kirby will become the REAL Wingnut when he gets double mutated again.


Thats what I was thinking if we ever see Wingnut in the series its probably gonna be Kirby double mutating.

[shuriken]

Well He might be double mutated. Mikey and Dogpound were double mutated, so why not KirbyBat? But then again Mikey was "cured of shellacne"so it couldgo either way.

[***First of Two Latin Kings***]

soo.....you really don't want Kirby to be Wingnut huh? why? :-?

it's not like it's a big deal or anything......unless he was your favorite character or something?

Kirby and WingNut are completely different characters. DogPound wasn't too far off from being Rahzar, considering he was sort of a cross between Rahzar and Tatsu to begin with when he was DogPound.

[ninja-zero]

Well He might be double mutated. Mikey and Dogpound were double mutated, so why not KirbyBat? But then again Mikey was "cured of shellacne"so it couldgo either way.

I agree with what you said I think.

The Kirby Bat is just a larva state representing his fear & despair for being chased by the Kraang and mistrusting of the turtles & Splinter.

Eventually, he'll be able to break free of those negative feelings when being double mutated.

Like a caterpillar to a coccoon to a butterfly.

And THAT'S where he'll become the "real" Wingnut. If he'll gain a friend out of Screwloose.

[CyberCubed]

Its safe to say that after the events of today's episode the door is open for Wingnut to appear in the series.

If he does I fully expect him and Screwloose to be from Dimension X instead of mutants.

[BabyTurtles]

Its safe to say that after the events of today's episode the door is open for Wingnut to appear in the series.

If he does I fully expect him and Screwloose to be from Dimension X instead of mutants.

IDK.....do we want to have more characters from other TMNT incarnations appear? Instead of Nick making up their own?

[TurtleTitan97]

IDK.....do we want to have more characters from other TMNT incarnations appear? Instead of Nick making up their own?

Personally, I'm open to both new villains and old ones returning from past versions. The more the better, I say!:D

[ninja-zero]

Wish Wingnut & Screwloose showed up in the show.

If Kirby won't be the new Wingnut, then time for a replacement.

Wish the Wingnut in this series will look like a combination of a vampire bat & a gargoyle.