NBA Discussion

[Drose18]

Anyone an nba fan?
Im a bulls fan its its really hard now with all the drose injuries? Also wow pacers beat the heat!

[The Stryker]

The Knicks and Nets are awful.

That's all I got.

[Wildcat]

I watch it but Im not as into it as I used to be. It is sad about Rose, seems like a really nice guy, but he's still young. I don't think it'll ruin his career.

Honestly there is too much bs involved that I didnt realize as a kid...the acting, ridiculous rules, terrible refs and alot of players are so egotistical.

Alone the game of basketball is cool, only sport I really like, but the NBA is just stupid imo.

[shuriken]

Pretty big Bulls Fan but they'll be alright. Gonna be a solid middle seed into the playoffs but Thibs is a good enough coach to make decent decisions.
Biggest losers this season are the Lakers, Knicks and Bucks. In Contrast Pacers and Thunder look like the strongest teams out there IMO

[TonySiegel]

d. rose is that dude... hopefully he doesn't leave the league like brandon roy did...

spurs or thunder coming out of the west...

pacers or heat in the east...

the knicks are doing horrible... i hope melo doesn't leave... but if he does, ehhhhh whatever it'll be time to rebuild... again!

[shuriken]

The thing with Melo is if he doesn't have the ball in his hands he's useless. Dude has no defense (Being a Bulls fan I LOOOOVE my defense, drinking Thibs Kool-aid and not afraid to say it) and will shoot 30-50 shots a game no doubt (scoring 30-70 points and such), but you get someone to defend him tight and he's done.
Melo, as good of a shooter that he is, isn't gonna win any titles unless he starts to play more defense, do or set up picks or assist. And at this stage of his career that isn't gonna happen. Seems like like the only guys that are good solid defenders are Shumpert and Chandler.
Rumor is that he might come sign with the Bulls. I dunno about that. I'd rather the Bulls get a Stoudemire, Hansbrough or a Tyson Chandler like player. Then again Melo could boost up their offense so there's that.

[TonySiegel]

^^^^^^^

don't agree with melo being useless...

but anyway the knicks stink this year, just wanted to restate that

[XERO]

I still say that last years Finals was one of the greatest I've seen. A shame my team the Spurs couldn't finish, but it was still awesome. I hope we get back this year. It'll be tough.

[Wingnut]

Raptors aren't looking too bad, for an Eastern Conference team. They could, I emphasize could, be a dark horse.

DeRozan is silently having a hell of a year.

[shuriken]

^^^^^^^

don't agree with melo being useless...

but anyway the knicks stink this year, just wanted to restate that

Oh no I never meant he was useless. I just said if he doesn't have the ball or is being too tightly defended than he can't really help his team any other way (useless was too strong of a word...more like limited).
Actually no he could get rebounds, but meh.
Unlike guys like LeBron, Harden, Noah or Chris Paul that can defend, do assists, steals, picks all that fun stuff. Point is Melo is a good player and will get his 30-70 points, but as a team they are going nowhere.
It's also the coaching staff's fault for doing such a bad job with such good talent.
Cleveland has a similar dilemma with Kyrie Irving. Lots of talent, but bad management/coaching. (Lakers and to an extent Brooklyn have similar problems)

And XERO yes last years finals were awesome, and I was also rooting for the Spurs as their last hoorah before Duncan, Ginobli and G-Pop retire. But oh well.

As for the Raptors well they've been solid all year, they can stand their ground with any team East Or West.

Anyone excited for the All Star break?

[Wingnut]

Anyone excited for the All Star break?

No LeBron in the dunk contest, volleyball jerseys…Should be a great time.

In all honesty I do enjoy the contests. The All-Star game itself, not so much.

[shuriken]

Those jerseys are pretty terrible. The 3 point contest should be good. And really it's about time Lebron enters the contest, even though I'm not his biggest fan he is a beast.
To be honest I'm more interested in the rising star game than the actual all star game. All least Noah is representing Chicago so that's cool. He has been double double machine lately.

[TonySiegel]

hopefully the dunk contest returns to glory tonight!

[shuriken]

Bellinelli totally beasted his way to win the 3 point contest.
And John Wall had a hell of a performance on the dunk contest. It was pretty awesome.

[TonySiegel]

Bellinelli totally beasted his way to win the 3 point contest.
And John Wall had a hell of a performance on the dunk contest. It was pretty awesome.

dunk contest hasn't returned to glory in a long time...

wall killed it though!

every dunk in dunk contest history >>> blake griffin over the kia

[TonySiegel]

Oh no I never meant he was useless. I just said if he doesn't have the ball or is being too tightly defended than he can't really help his team any other way (useless was too strong of a word...more like limited).
Actually no he could get rebounds, but meh.
Unlike guys like LeBron, Harden, Noah or Chris Paul that can defend, do assists, steals, picks all that fun stuff. Point is Melo is a good player and will get his 30-70 points, but as a team they are going nowhere.
It's also the coaching staff's fault for doing such a bad job with such good talent.
Cleveland has a similar dilemma with Kyrie Irving. Lots of talent, but bad management/coaching. (Lakers and to an extent Brooklyn have similar problems)


its tough being a knicks fan :ohwell:

i think melo is a championship caliber player... i think his road to glory will be similar to dirk's... & hopefully he can accomplish that with the knicks...

i agree the knicks organization is horrid... that mentality to sell tickets @ MSG is horrible...

[shuriken]

^^Yeah well I was thinking the Knicks and the Bulls would be on opposite sides of the spectrum at this point, what without Deng and Rose, but DJ Augustin has been great. I was sure the Knicks were gonna be top 4 in the East at least (heh rhymes) but it's hard when ur management sucks.

dunk contest hasn't returned to glory in a long time...

wall killed it though!

every dunk in dunk contest history >>> blake griffin over the kia

^ I liked the Blake Griffin Dunk. But Wall definitely topped it.

Also the All Star game was alright. I was actually into it this year. and the East won yay.

[shuriken]

Heat vs Bulls
Halftime and they're dead even.

[psychturtle]

Huge OKC thunder fan. Go to a few games a year. Their chemistry is a lil funky now that Westbrook came back. Sam prestigious has done excellent in building seattle uh I mean OKC. Ll

Anyways, I think OKC is a final four team but that's it. Once playoffs come, the younger guys like Jackson, lamb and Adams will underperform.

Heat out of the east.

[Redeemer]

Did anyone see Ibaka break Lebron James' nose!!!! last Heat vs Thunder holy crap that looked painful

[psychturtle]

Did anyone see Ibaka break Lebron James' nose!!!! last Heat vs Thunder holy crap that looked painful

He got his nose broken and still made the bucket! Ugh.

[shuriken]

Yeah dude's a beast as much of an anti Heat fan I am.
Thunder's been in a bit of a funk but they CAN make it all the way to the Finals. But the Clippers just outworked em Sunday.
And Bulls lost to the Heat. Impressive showing from Noah and Gibson, but not much from any other Bull.

[shuriken]

Take that Miami Heat. Bulls aint the best team, but they have enough heart hustle and muscle to beat the best.

[shuriken]

^^ I agree with most of this. MOST, But Butler and Noah are great defenders that can make it a struggle for anyone. Except Durant. But Wade won't get through the entire post season, he's been injured a lot this season. The Bulls can only beat the Heat in a 7 game series IF and ONLY IF the Heat aren't shooting more than %50, and the Bulls beat em up on the inside (more rebounds, more inside points forcing fouls). And that is a big IF. I think the Pacers (if they get their act together) are the best in the East.
Anyway gonna see the Bulls vs Pacers tomorrow. Pretty freaking stoked. Should be a blast.

[Drose18]

^^ I agree with most of this. MOST, But Butler and Noah are great defenders that can make it a struggle for anyone. Except Durant. But Wade won't get through the entire post season, he's been injured a lot this season. The Bulls can only beat the Heat in a 7 game series IF and ONLY IF the Heat aren't shooting more than %50, and the Bulls beat em up on the inside (more rebounds, more inside points forcing fouls). And that is a big IF. I think the Pacers (if they get their act together) are the best in the East.
Anyway gonna see the Bulls vs Pacers tomorrow. Pretty freaking stoked. Should be a blast.

Dont forget DJ hes the man when hes on fire! Does anyone think the bulls will amnesty booz?

[shuriken]

DJ has been a great acquisition to the Bulls. Good defender, decent assists and decent shooting percentage. Only thing is that he is prone to terrible turnovers and sometimes holds the ball too long. SOO glad Teague is gone (great potential, just seemed like he played scared).

[Guitar_Raph]

Gotta go with the Rockets. Congrats to Dwight Howard for winning the Sports Star category in the KCAs.

[Drose18]

DJ has been a great acquisition to the Bulls. Good defender, decent assists and decent shooting percentage. Only thing is that he is prone to terrible turnovers and sometimes holds the ball too long. SOO glad Teague is gone (great potential, just seemed like he played scared).

Same he wasnt confident when he had the ball and couldnt make a shot for his life.

[shuriken]

^^ Poor kid. I remember he started a couple of games back in December when both Hinrich and Rose were injured and they had Mike James at backup. Terrible. I think they only won like 4 games that month.
Boozer won't need to be amnestied, his contract is up by the end of the season. It'll pretty much be his decision if he wants to return.

Gotta go with the Rockets. Congrats to Dwight Howard for winning the Sports Star category in the KCAs.

Rockets are a good solid team. I root for them cuz my brother in Texas is a huge Rockets fan and that's my pick in the West. Harden is a beast and big bad Howard CAN be a beast, he's just a liability at the free throw line (so was Shaq tho, so no biggie).

[shuriken]

Who's ready for the playoffs??

[Redeemer]

Saw Nets vs Raptors earlier and the shot clock disaster:lol:
Currently watching Pacers vs Hawks. Pacers better get their crap together.
I wonder if the Heat will have enough energy to even compete??? 3 straight final appearances plus an olympic run :o That about an extra 8 months of basketball the past 3 years compared to everyone else.

[shuriken]

Aside from the Spurs and Heat every home team lost in the first game of the first round. Damn Nene and Ariza just killed my Bulls last night. It should be an interesting first round...

[Redeemer]

Aside from the Spurs and Heat every home team lost in the first game of the first round. Damn Nene and Ariza just killed my Bulls last night. It should be an interesting first round...

Chicago can't score and their highest paid player/ franchise player hasn't played for 2 years. If Rose can't be healthy they just need to cut ties with him and find a new franchise player. Cut Rose and grab Carmelo Anthony????
Chicago is what a 4 seed??? Melo can score which is what Chicago is missing.

also OKC won their home game as well don't forget.

[shuriken]

^^ They are the lowest scoring team in the league. Rose is in a tough spot, can't really trade someone that is seen as damaged goods, but still the face of the franchise (although focus has def shifted to Noah lately). Melo would bring something new to their lackluster offense. I'd prefer Kevin Love but with all the talk back and forth between Melo/Thibs/Noah it seems like a no brainer. He might stay with the Knicks after Jackson's arrival and Woodsen getting fired but I dunno.
Also forgot to mention the Thunder won as well. So 5 out of 8 home teams lost.

[Redeemer]

^^ They are the lowest scoring team in the league. Rose is in a tough spot, can't really trade someone that is seen as damaged goods, but still the face of the franchise (although focus has def shifted to Noah lately). Melo would bring something new to their lackluster offense. I'd prefer Kevin Love but with all the talk back and forth between Melo/Thibs/Noah it seems like a no brainer. He might stay with the Knicks after Jackson's arrival and Woodsen getting fired but I dunno.

Each year every team gets to use the Amnesty claws on one players. They could definitely use it on Rose. Basically they could cut Rose without any cap penalty or consequence.
That would free up enough money to grab Carmelo Anthony and maybe even Kevin Love. Two reason's they could grab both.1. The cap is going up by $5M.
2. Rose is on a Max Contract which is about $35m extra. If Carmelo signs with Bulls he would cost $35M less than keeping Rose.

They have been talking about signing Carmelo while still keeping Rose. But if they used the Amnesty clause they could sign both Melo and Love.
So you could have a starting Line-up of Noah-C,Love-PF,Boozer-SF,Melo-SG,Henerich-PG
That would be a bigger line up, but that would be a star studded line up :o

[shuriken]

^^Love is most likely going to L.A., but that situation is ridiculous in terms of how much star power it has. (It's like the 2008 Celtics again)
And as much as I agree about Rose, I just don't see them cutting Rose.

[shuriken]

So how about that crazy old Sterling huh?

[Wingnut]

So how about that crazy old Sterling huh?

Silver just dropped the hammer. Lifetime ban, $2.5 million fine, and in all likelihood the other owners will force Sterling to sell the team.

My question, where the hell has the NBA been for the last 3 decades? Sterling is a well publicized racist, slum lord, piece of garbage in general...That's all cool. Embarrass the "brand" and NOW they have a problem with it. Guess I answered my own question but the whole story really bothers me, the fact that the NAACP gave him (Sterling) lifetime achievement awards speaks volumes to the credibility of that organization too, the LA chapter at least. Money talks.

Glad they booted him, but the NBA doesn't give two sh*ts about his remarks, blatant racism, or the effects of both. He hurt the bottom line and that's what ultimately sealed his fate.

[Redeemer]

, the fact that the NAACP gave him (Sterling) lifetime achievement awards speaks volumes to the credibility of that organization too, the LA chapter at least. Money talks.


Whats worse is they gave hime (2) count it two lifetime achievement awards :lol:
NAACP really dropped the ball on that one :lol:

My only concern about the entire thing is will the NBA get sued???? The 1st amendment guarantees the right of free thought and speech. Even despite how vulgar his views are or the obscene his comments may scene it is still covered under the first amendment.
The man doesn't deserve to be a owner, but to impede on basic constitutional rights is concerning to say the least.:ohwell:

[Peanut]

You have the right to say whatever the f*ck you want, that doesn't shield you from the repercussions of saying them. Certain forms of speech aren't even protected under the first amendment according to your court system, such as obscenity, which this certainly falls under.

It's amazing how many Americans understand their own constitution less than people who aren't American.

Either way, you give up specific rights when you sign contracts, such as those that allow you to own a sports team or promote a product as simple examples. I can't sign a contract with Coca-Cola, then run out and spew hate speech and expect to not lose my endorsement deal because I'm allowed freedom of speech.

[The Stryker]

Whats worse is they gave hime (2) count it two lifetime achievement awards :lol:
NAACP really dropped the ball on that one :lol:

My only concern about the entire thing is will the NBA get sued???? The 1st amendment guarantees the right of free thought and speech. Even despite how vulgar his views are or the obscene his comments may scene it is still covered under the first amendment.
The man doesn't deserve to be a owner, but to impede on basic constitutional rights is concerning to say the least.:ohwell:

The NBA isn't the government. That's all the first amendment protects you from.

[Katie]

That's right. The 1st amendment protects you from government persecution for saying certain things. It does not apply to idiots who get told by the organization they belong to to stay the f&ck away.

[BubblyShell22]

I think Sterling deserved what he got. He's a scumbag and he shouldn't be the owner. I'm glad the NBA is finally standing up to this guy, and I think that Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan should get the team next. That would really be awesome.

As for being a fan of the NBA, I used to be a huge Bulls and Pacers fan back in the days when Michael Jordan and Reggie Miller played. Those were the days when it was actually fun to watch. Now, not so much anymore. I'd rather watch pro wrestling.

[The Stryker]

Jordan already owns the Bobcats.

[TigerClaw]

Jordan already owns the Bobcats.
Who just got swept by the Heat in the playoffs.

[The Stryker]

Who just got swept by the Heat in the playoffs.

And? They're a team that made a huge leap this year and have a solid base for the future.

He's not going to dump the team just because they didn't win this year. A relatively inexperienced team ran into the defending champions headed by the best player in the league. Big whoop. They got beat.

[Wildcat]

Like I said before Im not into the NBA as much as I used to be but of course I am watching since its the playoffs now.

Im so tired of hearing about Sterling. He's banned, good, move on. I know he owns the team and theres still things to be decided but everyone is giving him way too much attention.

One of the most ridiculous things Ive heard is Clippers boycotting and not playing. Thats seriously one of the most absurd things Ive heard. Youre gonna allow these stupid comments to get to you that youd jeopardize your chances of winning the first round and for that matter a title? Im not even a Clippers fan.

In the regular season fine but after all the hard work its pointless. Youre playing for the city and the fans. Yeah its still supporting the owner by default but nobody went in thinking...I wanna play for Sterling. They wanted to play for the overall franchise. Let him have his stupid opinions. He knows everyones against him now. Id wanna win.

[The Stryker]

It's almost as if they value their self-respect and pride in their race over a basketball game.

[Wildcat]

It's almost as if they value their self-respect and pride in their race over a basketball game. Oh you.

Yes lets give in to this stupid racist and forget all our hard work, the fans and a title. We'll try again next year. :ohwell:

Great way to keep your head up :roll:

[The Stryker]

Oh you.

Yes lets give in to this stupid racist and forget all our hard work, the fans and a title. We'll try again next year. :ohwell:

Great way to keep your head up :roll:

Actually. Giving in to the racist would be being "good boys" and playing the game with a smile on their face. Putting more money in his pocket. Yessir master!

The issue is way more important than some basketball game. No matter how big the game is.

[Wildcat]

Actually. Giving in to the racist would be being "good boys" and playing the game with a smile on their face. Putting more money in his pocket. Yessir master!

The issue is way more important than some basketball game. No matter how big the game is.The guy is already filthy rich.

You can't seriously think by them continuing to play that they're playing FOR him.

The game and league is bigger than any single person.

[Refractive Reflections]

Inside Edition clip: http://bcove.me/3qkfo9q4
The Guardian article: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/28/donald-sterling-racism-la-clippers-owner

An excerpt:

...
Decades of racist policy renting housing in Los Angeles, which turned Sterling into a real-estate mogul wealthy enough to buy and run a professional sports team, didn't elicit any such furor. But decades of lousy Clippers basketball under Sterling's stewardship turned the Clippers into the butt of late-night TV jokes. The Clippers were laughed at for losing, laughed at for being cheap, laughed at for moving in with the star-studded Lakers, laughed at for being a second-class franchise in a first-class sports league.

But all those years, not enough people looked at Donald Sterling as the racist landlord the law so bore him out to be.

Neither the league, nor the players, nor the sports media paid much if any attention to Sterling's agreement in 2003 to pay upwards of $5m to settle a lawsuit brought by the Housing Rights Center charging that he tried to drive non-Korean tenants out of apartments he bought in the Koreatown section of Los Angeles. Only a few observers noted in 2006 that the Justice Department sued Sterling for allegations of housing discrimination in the same neighborhood. The charges included statements he allegedly made to employees that black and Hispanic families were not desirable tenants.

And while a handful of us in the media excoriated Sterling and the NBA in 2009 when Sterling settled the lawsuit by agreeing to pay $2.73m following allegations he refused to rent apartments to Hispanics, blacks and families with children, the story didn't resonate – despite it being the largest housing discrimination settlement in Justice Department history.

There was no investigation from the NBA, like the one new commissioner Adam Silver announced under pressure this weekend, promising to move "extraordinarily quickly".

There was no condemnation from black players who predominate the league like the one that erupted Saturday and Sunday from current superstars, including LeBron James and Chris Paul, and from retired icons like Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan. Paul, the Clippers star and head of the National Basketball Players Association, joined his teammates Sunday in stripping their warm-up gear and throwing it unceremoniously into a pile in a demonstration to disown the team's nickname in protest of their owner's loathsomeness.

And there was certainly no President Barack Obama to denounce Sterling, as he did Sunday. The comments with which the owner had been charged with spewing, the president said, showed how "the United States continues to wrestle with the legacy of race and slavery and segregation."

But pro sports have their own legacy of ignorance as bliss.
...


As much as the NBA wants to claim they are doing "the right thing", it seems more or less PR damage control when this man has had documented racist behavior from the past.

[shuriken]

I think its more of a combination of a PR move and the straw that broke the camel's back sort of deal. Dude was a scumbag plain and simple, that belongs back in the 1930s with his antiquated mindset. that because a lot of the stuff he did wasn't necessarily public knowledge the Media, much less the NBA didn't give 2 $h*ts about because LOLZ Clippers suck.

And? They're a team that made a huge leap this year and have a solid base for the future.

He's not going to dump the team just because they didn't win this year. A relatively inexperienced team ran into the defending champions headed by the best player in the league. Big whoop. They got beat.

Pretty much. Jordan is smart enough to make that team better, and has. He got the team from losing 64 games to winning 40+. The Bobcats did give em a good fight all things considered.
As for the Bulls as much as I want them to win, they probably won't. But one can dream...

[The Stryker]

The guy is already filthy rich.

You can't seriously think by them continuing to play that they're playing FOR him.

The game and league is bigger than any single person.

No crap. But them protesting and sitting out would not be this dumb move you think it would be.

They'd be refusing to play under the banner of a guy that clearly thinks of them as lesser beings that should be happy they're getting money from the master. Race issues and personal beliefs are bigger than basketball.

If a fan was honestly offended by the team doing that? That's alittle messed up. You'd think people would understand and not say "play for me now! Me me me! Your emotions don't matter!"

[Redeemer]

The NBA isn't the government. That's all the first amendment protects you from.

I am not a expert on legal matter whats so ever, but know in the past people have sued for discrimination of beliefs before in the past, but I wouldn't be surprised if the NBA has some sort of ethics policy a potential owner must sign before buying the team which is why they can probably fine him without risk of being sued.

[Wingnut]

I am not a expert on legal matter whats so ever, but know in the past people have sued for discrimination of beliefs before in the past, but I wouldn't be surprised if the NBA has some sort of ethics policy a potential owner must sign before buying the team which is why they can probably fine him without risk of being sued.

Donald Sterling CANNOT, I repeat, CANNOT sue the NBA.

He might have a case against his mistress for recording him in private and without permission, since that is against the law. That's a totally separate matter.

[Wildcat]

No crap. But them protesting and sitting out would not be this dumb move you think it would be.

They'd be refusing to play under the banner of a guy that clearly thinks of them as lesser beings that should be happy they're getting money from the master. Race issues and personal beliefs are bigger than basketball.

If a fan was honestly offended by the team doing that? That's alittle messed up. You'd think people would understand and not say "play for me now! Me me me! Your emotions don't matter!"Ya I understand that. Im just saying, for me at least if I was a player, I wouldn't throw the season just because of his stupid prejudiced views.

Plus he's gonna make alot of money no matter what. Selling the team is going to make him a fortune in itself. Whenever it happens. I know right now he doesn't wanna sell.

[shuriken]

^^ Put yourself in their shoes. Let's say your boss tells someone else that to him you are beneath him in more ways than one and "you people" shouldn't associate with him or anyone close to him. You're helping this guy make tons of money and you aren't worth associating with. Don't you think you'd be a little upset?

[BubblyShell22]

Donald Sterling CANNOT, I repeat, CANNOT sue the NBA.

He might have a case against his mistress for recording him in private and without permission, since that is against the law. That's a totally separate matter.

TMZ reported that Sterling knew he was being recorded, so he can't sue anyone if he had prior knowledge.

I agree with Shuriken here. Why play for a boss who ultimately hates you because of your race and only hired you to make money for him? It's like he's the owner and they're the slaves, and that's how he sees them. I wouldn't play for a guy like that no matter what's at stake. Screw a championship. No one should be forced to play for a bigoted jerk.

[Wildcat]

^^ Put yourself in their shoes. Let's say your boss tells someone else that to him you are beneath him in more ways than one and "you people" shouldn't associate with him or anyone close to him. You're helping this guy make tons of money and you aren't worth associating with. Don't you think you'd be a little upset?I understand what youre saying and yes I would be offended. I just think its a little different in the NBA because its such a huge organization that the game and the reasons you play trumps one person's negative views.

I know they are still technically supporting him and making him money and that in itself is the moral dilemma but this guy knows everyone is against him and no matter what he's going to profit from it either way...me playing and/or selling the team.

In a regular job my boss may own the entire business and nothing could be done. Id most likely just be working to make a living. No branch or other division is gonna join me for some big crusade. So yeah Id probably quit and find another job.

I didnt mean to get into a big discussion. If you guys don't agree with me thats fine...I just thought Itd be a waste to forget the season like that.

[Redeemer]

Donald Sterling CANNOT, I repeat, CANNOT sue the NBA.

He might have a case against his mistress for recording him in private and without permission, since that is against the law. That's a totally separate matter.

I didn't realize you were a lawyer. Its just curious speculation. There have been countless frivolous law-suits out there. Why don't you take a brake before you blow a gasket.

Anyway....Sterling is getting fined and most likely is going to be forced to sell his team for something he said in the privacy of his own home. I can't believe how much people are reacting to this. This is just a typical racist a-hole with a lot of money.

I have a bigger question why was he not forced to sell his team when he was sued for discrimination a few years ago???

[Wingnut]

I didn't realize you were a lawyer. Its just curious speculation. There have been countless frivolous law-suits out there. Why don't you take a brake before you blow a gasket.
If that was blowing a gasket, you're overly sensitive.

I have a bigger question why was he not forced to sell his team when he was sued for discrimination a few years ago???

He settled out of court most of the time. Elgin Baylor's case never made it to court. When the DOJ sued him, I have no idea why something wasn't done.

Anyway...I'll be taking my "brake" now to watch highlights from the Raptors game. Came close to blowing a 22 point lead, gotta see how that went down.

[Redeemer]

If that was blowing a gasket, you're overly sensitive.



He settled out of court most of the time. Elgin Baylor's case never made it to court. When the DOJ sued him, I have no idea why something wasn't done.

Anyway...I'll be taking my "brake" now to watch highlights from the Raptors game. Came close to blowing a 22 point lead, gotta see how that went down.

I was simply stating that you should calm down is all. If I was upset I would be personally attacking you like you saw others do in the movie forums :lol:


I think Joe Johnson started shooting lights out last I heard. I got Miami out of the east. They are starting to get hot, Wade is not a crippled this year for ounce. Hopefully it doesn't screw up the chemistry.
Also bc the Pacers are collapsing and looks like a first round bounce for them.
The Nets are the only team with a winning record versus the Heat and they might get bounced or will be too tired to beat the Heat.

The West......damn toss up......:lol: OKC is starting to collapse and the Spurs are starting to show a chink in the armor. Houston and Portland Best series so far in the playoffs.

[Guitar_Raph]

One of the protesters @ Staples, had a sign reading
No
Bigots
Allowed

Guess that would also go for Archie Bunker & George Jefferson (LOL)!

[Redeemer]

Donald Sterling CANNOT, I repeat, CANNOT sue the NBA.

He might have a case against his mistress for recording him in private and without permission, since that is against the law. That's a totally separate matter.

Well apparently you can sue the NBA :lol:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/sterling-set-fight-nba-ban-lawsuit-blocking-sale-clippers-source-article-1.1774769

I am with you though I don't see him winning the suit.

[Wingnut]

Well apparently you can sue the NBA :lol:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/sterling-set-fight-nba-ban-lawsuit-blocking-sale-clippers-source-article-1.1774769

I am with you though I don't see him winning the suit.


Ya got me pardner, but yes, he's pissing into the wind.

Deadspin summed it up nicely (http://deadspin.com/that-secret-nba-constitution-is-now-online-1569509012)

*EDIT: That last-second buzzer beater to put the Blazers through was just awesome. Series for series, the playoffs haven't been this exciting in a long time.

[Peanut]

Oh my god I almost died.

Donald Sterlings identity revealed! (http://deadspin.com/donald-sterling-is-master-shake-from-aqua-teen-hunger-f-1576333572?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebo ok&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)

[Redeemer]

Oh my god I almost died.

Donald Sterlings identity revealed! (http://deadspin.com/donald-sterling-is-master-shake-from-aqua-teen-hunger-f-1576333572?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebo ok&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)

Wow really???? :lol:
So it looks like The Heat are in the finals, if the Pacers can close out the series with the wizards I see the Pacers beating the Heat in 7. Don't know why, but I feel like the Heat bring the best out of the pacers.
I don't know whats going to happen, but I know the Heat will not win the championship again. I just don't see it.

[The Stryker]

The Heat aren't as good as they were last year but they can beat the Pacers. They did it when the Pacers weren't a walking example of inconsistency like they are now.

[Redeemer]

The Heat aren't as good as they were last year but they can beat the Pacers. They did it when the Pacers weren't a walking example of inconsistency like they are now.

Thats true, but Lebron had to score 49 points to be beat the Nets two games ago.... :o

But with they way the playoffs are shaping up we might have a finals repeat.

[Wingnut]

But with they way the playoffs are shaping up we might have a finals repeat.

That's what I am pulling for. The Spurs are the perfect foil to the Heat and vice versa.

Honestly, I just want to see Duncan win one more ring. Winning it against the Heat would be a great way to go out, though.

[XERO]

I just hope we get that rematch. Spurs vs. Heat has an already awesome backstory behind it. Their last Finals was a classic.

But first, the Spurs gotta get past the winner of the Clippers/Thunder. If the Thunder wins that series, it's gonna be tricky if we play them. They killed the Spurs last time.

[shuriken]

Wizards vs Trailblazers woulda been awesome for sake of having 2 very hungry young teams facing off in the Finals. But its looking more and more like a repeat of last year...Clippers and Pacers would be neat as well but those Spurs are ridiculously good/reliable/consistent. Pacers can't beat the Heat the way they've been playing.

[psychturtle]

Anyone else hate Blake (the flake) Griffin?

[Redeemer]

Anyone else hate Blake (the flake) Griffin?

spurs fans better pray to the good lord that the clippers win this series bc the spurs struggle against okc

[psychturtle]

Being a huge OKC thunder fan, I do acknowledge that San Antonio has struggled against us for some time. Our guys can be super athletic, overly emotional, and make mistakes. San anontio is a really good team and is not an easy task for the thunder. I can honestly see the series going in san antonios favor. Thunder have struggled at home and have really been battle tested by Memphis and LA.

I guess we will see how San Antonio adjusts to our guards. We always do well when we attack the bucket against SA. With Ibaka being injured, this series may give San Antonio another advantage.

[XERO]

Yeah, but so far, Spurs haven't been able to stop Durant all season. Guy's been playing like a madman. He's the MVP for a reason. But the Spurs are the better overall team. It could honestly go either way, but I'm down for the Spurs. I just hope Ginobili doesn't cost us any fouls or anything. Haha.

[Redeemer]

And this is why Heat fans including myself did not want to play the Pacers....they are the one team in the east that could beat us in a 7 game series......

But then again the 4 playoff series they have squared off the Pacers have won every single Game 1, but this time they have home court advantage. :-?

[XERO]

The Heat also lost in Game 1 in the Finals against us last year. This is nothing.

[shuriken]

As much as I dislike it the finals will most likely be Spurs vs Heat again.

[Wingnut]

Spurs definitely set the tone. It looked like 5 on 2 at certain times, the 2 being KD and Westbrook. Amazed how close they made it. Series is FAR from over but OKC definitely misses Ibaka, they could've used a third option and 50% from the field tonight.

[shuriken]

I don't see Thunder getting past game 5...
Indiana Heat should be more interesting but Heat will take it.

[Redeemer]

Indiana Heat should be more interesting but Heat will take it.

I don't know about the Heat winning. They seem tired and uninterested at times.

[shuriken]

The way the conference finals have been shaping up I don't even know what to expect anymore. But the Spurs got owned tonight.

[Wingnut]

Westbrook put up NBA Jam-like numbers, 40pts 10ast 5reb 5stl. I think he had a block too.

Still can't believe point guards (Magic Johnson & A.I. aside) put up numbers like that now.

Spurs have been rocked, it's official. Seems like game 5 is make or break.

[Redeemer]

Westbrook put up NBA Jam-like numbers, 40pts 10ast 5reb 5stl. I think he had a block too.

Still can't believe point guards (Magic Johnson & A.I. aside) put up numbers like that now.

Spurs have been rocked, it's official. Seems like game 5 is make or break.

Seriously I thought I was watching a game of NBA Jam :lol:
Its really tough to say who will win this series now.
The Spurs look like they saw a ghost from the past.

[psychturtle]

I really hope big blue wins one in San Antonio but I'm not sure how the thunder keep that intensity going. Though we swept SA in reg season, i still don't know if we can beat them in SA during playoffs. They have so much confidence at home. It's now best of 3 let's see what OKC is made of. Hurtsmthat r. Jackson spraine dhis ankle last night and ibaka is still rehabbing even though he's playing.

[XERO]

Yeah, it's all a home game situation. But I know somebody will crack and they beat them in their own place.

I just hope it's not the Spurs. They know how this went in 2012. They need to wake up.

Meanwhile, Miami seems to be doing alright... -__-

[psychturtle]

Yeah, it's all a home game situation. But I know somebody will crack and they beat them in their own place.

I just hope it's not the Spurs. They know how this went in 2012. They need to wake up.

Meanwhile, Miami seems to be doing alright... -__-

Well if OKC were to lose to someone, I'd rather it be SA. I cannot stand LAL, LAC, Memphis, or Dallas. As long as it's not them, then I'm not as pissed lol.

[Redeemer]

Well if OKC were to lose to someone, I'd rather it be SA. I cannot stand LAL, LAC, Memphis, or Dallas. As long as it's not them, then I'm not as pissed lol.

Well good thing all those teams were knocked out or missed the playoffs. :lol:

[XERO]

Most of them by the Spurs. Haha.

[Redeemer]

Wow the Refs just gave that game to the Pacers.....:x

But I do have to give Paul George credit he was clutch down the stretch.

[Wingnut]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/GenAn/lance-stephenson-blowing-in-lebron-james-ear_zpsb1f91455.gif

If looks could kill

[XERO]

Spurs vs Heat. The Rematch.

I'm ready.

[Redeemer]

Spurs vs Heat. The Rematch.

I'm ready.

The playoffs are just beginning!!!!
The epic rematch!!!!

[Wingnut]

I have to ask...Who's gonna win?

I'll go against my better judgement and say Spurs, they'll be out for blood after last year either way. No idea how many games it will take.

[XERO]

No idea. I'm definitely going for my team the Spurs. But you gotta admit...

This is a HELL of a story they both are telling. Miami are going for the 3-peat, the Spurs want to avenge that devastating loss last year. I mean... you have NO IDEA how close they were to winning if it wasn't for a couple of hiccups and THAT 3-pointer.

But if we were able to get past our hardest hurdle in the Thunder, anything is possible.

I can't wait for Thursday (well, I can so Parker can heal up. Haha).

[Redeemer]

THAT 3-pointer.

LOL yeah I bet that one stung :lol:
Made by that "bad,bad man!"


The biggest difference this year for the Heat is no Mike Miller and Dewayne Wade is healthy for the first time in about two playoffs.

[XERO]

LOL yeah I bet that one stung :lol:
Made by that "bad,bad man!"

Yeah, it was just a awesome 3. I'm just glad the Spurs didn't fold and let them walk over them. We fought to the end. It was a great series and the better team won.

We'll see what happens this time.

[Slade]

Bulls fan from when I was little. Don't watch as much anymore. I like checkin out NBA Classics from when Jordan was playing.

[Redeemer]

If I was a bulls fan I wouldn't watch them right now either. Rose can't stay healthy to save his life.

Yeah, it was just a awesome 3. I'm just glad the Spurs didn't fold and let them walk over them. We fought to the end. It was a great series and the better team won.

We'll see what happens this time.

I think the spurs are actually a better team overall, Miami doesn't have much of a bench especially this year. When they first signed Ray Allen I thought it was the wrong move, but Oh did he prove me wrong!:lol:

[XERO]

lol It's too bad Robert Horry is retired. We needed his Big Shot that night. :P

[Redeemer]

Who does everyone have winning tonight????
I am praying the Heat can take at least one before heading home. I got the Spurts tonight. The heat will only play their best when they have their backs against the wall!

[Redeemer]

I am flabbergasted, The spurs are getting so many calls going for them right now. Between Splitter's charge or Lebron's put back that was called Offensive interference...... :o

But what are the odds that the A/C would go out on the first games of the finals!!!!:lol:

[XERO]

I've already lost count on how many "can't take the heat" jokes I've read.

That was a weird game. The heck happened to LeBron? The Spurs should've probably lost with those multiple turnovers.

[Wildcat]

The game should have been postponed. Ive been in places without AC during summer and just sitting there gets pretty uncomfortable. I cant imagine playing and making yourself even hotter through it.

Someone at the press conference asked if they thought it was "broken" on purpose. Thats just stupid. It was affecting both teams.

I don't think it cost the Heat the win. They had a lead and let it slip. Wade and the rest are good enough to carry the team for 5 mins or whatever it was. Wade was the star before anyway and has played great.

I know some people will probably compare Lebron to Jordan's sick game but thats unfair. Everyone has different health limits. He had a similar issue against the Magic when he was in Cleveland. The game should have been postponed anyway. Its unfair to the players and audience who pay to be there.

[Redeemer]

I know some people will probably compare Lebron to Jordan's sick game but thats unfair. Everyone has different health limits. He had a similar issue against the Magic when he was in Cleveland.

Hindsight is 20/20 as they say, but the players played under the same conditions.
But from a health stand point, I played football with the flu, able to play the whole game, but when I get an abdominal cramp I can't move and my abs gets so tight it forces me to curl into a ball. I always thought people over-exagerated cramps, but sense I began jogging I can now relate.

Like I said the refs gave that game to the spurs. The spurs should have losses in the 3rd quarter, but the refs kept them in that damn game.

[Wildcat]

Hindsight is 20/20 as they say, but the players played under the same conditions.
But from a health stand point, I played football with the flu, able to play the whole game, but when I get an abdominal cramp I can't move and my abs gets so tight it forces me to curl into a ball. I always thought people over-exagerated cramps, but sense I began jogging I can now relate.

Like I said the refs gave that game to the spurs. The spurs should have losses in the 3rd quarter, but the refs kept them in that damn game.Uh ya like I said the heat (temperature) affected both teams. I didn't mean it should be postponed because of Lebron...I said for players and fans. It was unfair for everyone.

The refs didn't give the Spurs the game. It was pretty evenly called. Flopping gets called, or I mean awarded, the majority of the time anyway. Theres always botched calls in NBA games but it was not drastically one-sided the way you're implying.

[Redeemer]

The refs didn't give the Spurs the game. It was pretty evenly called. Flopping gets called, or I mean awarded, the majority of the time anyway. Theres always botched calls in NBA games but it was not drastically one-sided the way you're implying.

Really????Not even close..... They called a freaking flagrant on Lebron for a shove, They called a offensive inference call on Lebron. The called a foul on Chalmers only after Parker's shot rang out of the basket, not during the shot but after the shot went in and out even the commentators specifically Stan van gunny was bitching about it. I can go on and on. The spurs were kept in that game by the refs.

[Wildcat]

Really????Not even close..... They called a freaking flagrant on Lebron for a shove, They called a offensive inference call on Lebron. The called a foul on Chalmers only after Parker's shot rang out of the basket, not during the shot but after the shot went in and out even the commentators specifically Stan van gunny was bitching about it. I can go on and on. The spurs were kept in that game by the refs.The flagrant was reduced to a normal foul but everything you're listing happens in almost every single game. Obviously the home team gets more favorable calls. I can list countless botched or "missed" calls over the years.

Really I do hate refs and feel they hurt the game because its an extra human factor that alot of times call it how they want. Plus there's alot of ridiculous rules in the NBA but in terms of THIS game, you're exaggerating it to be totally one-sided.

[shuriken]

^^No need hating on the refs. Miami willget their calls at home too.
Sucks for Lebron though. I've playing ball in a humid ass gym with no A/C and have also cramped up, having to crawl to the sidelines since I don't have anyone to carry me. As much as I dislike the Heat, I want no excuses for their loss. It was crazy after Lebron left it seems like the Heat sort of lost it and Spurs just dominted them in the end going on a 3 to 15 run.

[Wildcat]

Well I don't care who wins this. I don't hate the Heat, I like Wade, and itd be cool to see the Spurs win one more time in their Big 3 era.

In general I hate the refs because its obvious they call things how they want sometimes. No group of people, or any single person, would genuinely mess up and have that many bad/missed calls over all these years. Even things that happen right in front of them.

That extra human factor means the game will always be significantly flawed. You just hope there's a balance between any given 2 teams so that it doesn't border on rigging. Though sometimes its pretty bad.

[Redeemer]

The flagrant was reduced to a normal foul but everything you're listing happens in almost every single game. Obviously the home team gets more favorable calls. I can list countless botched or "missed" calls over the years.

Really I do hate refs and feel they hurt the game because its an extra human factor that alot of times call it how they want. Plus there's alot of ridiculous rules in the NBA but in terms of THIS game, you're exaggerating it to be totally one-sided.

When you have commentators calling-out the refs you know its bad.
You are right the refs have no rhyme or reason, but last night specifically Parker's Lay-up was outrageous. To call a foul based on whether or not a player makes the basket and not whether he was fouled or not is outrageous.
That call reminded me of the Tim Donaghy incident, but thats me being paranoid :lol:

[XERO]

2 more wins to go for the Spurs. I know Miami will come back with a vengeance next game, but I believe we can get it done.

[shuriken]

^^ Yeah. I simply can't bring myself to root for the Heat so I'll cheer for the Spurs ( plus Pop is an awesome coach and I'd pay to see him as a future commentator).
Even with the aforementioned calls (Chalmers being hit by nothing, clean blocks not being counted, Parker getting beat up with no calls) The Spurs simply annihilated them in the 1st half. That defecit was just too deep. Get your last ring and retire into the sunset Duncan.

[XERO]

Why do so many people want Duncan to retire? He'll go when he's ready. It's not like he's playing horrible or anything. He's probably the most consistent player of the previous generation and the generation before that. People just want him to get his storybook ending and go out as champion, which is understandable. But as long as he has a passion for the game, and can still pull out double-doubles almost every game, who are we to want him to retire?

I say let Tim Duncan go out the way Tim Duncan wants to go out. Besides, he still has a year left on his contract, anyway. :P

[shuriken]

Not saying I want him to retire (he's a double double machine) its just that playing at that level at that age does a hell of a lot of damage to the body. And retiring after winning a championship one last time would be fantastic for such a great player. If he can go another year then so be it, more power to the man.
also THAT KAWHI LEONARD PUT-BACK WAS AWESOME!!!
He's been great these passed two games.

[XERO]

1 more win to go. But I know Miami is gonna go nuts this time. They play better when their backs are against the wall. But at the same time, the Spurs have been playing beautiful basketball lately. I can't wait until tomorrow night.

[Redeemer]

1 more win to go. But I know Miami is gonna go nuts this time. They play better when their backs are against the wall. But at the same time, the Spurs have been playing beautiful basketball lately. I can't wait until tomorrow night.

I agree I want to say Miami will make a final stand, bc they always play better when they have their backs against the wall. But Spurs have been the only team to win consecutive games in the big 3 era....

Also the last two games everyone on the Miami Team except Lebron gave up. Lebron is trying to hold it together, but damn a man can only do so much. I wonder what the hell happened to Bosh and Wade these are suppose to be the top players in the NBA and One is a sure fire future hall of famed, but they have not been seen in the freaking series.

[XERO]

San Antonio Spurs. NBA Champs once again.

YES.

[NYShell]

I'm really hoping the knicks would pull it together in the future.

[The Stryker]

I'm really hoping the knicks would pull it together in the future.

That's a good joke you got there. Hilarious!

[shuriken]

^^ Kinda harsh there :lol:
I know I've done my share of Melo bashing, but the Bulls desperately need some offense and Melo is a free agent. I wonder what other moves the Bulls will make, I just hope they don't mess it up somehow...

[Redeemer]

Talk about drama no big pieces have moved at all!!!!! :o

But I am hoping Lebron James and Carmelo Anthoney join forces!!!!!

[shuriken]

^^ that's a terrible idea. They'll need 2 basketballs to play...

[Wildcat]

I really hate all the useless waiting. ESPN just hypes all the different scenarios.

I'm sure Carmelo and LeBron know what they're gonna do and have known from the beginning. Just like before...Lebron obviously planned to join the Heat and Carmelo wanted to goto the Knicks, not the Nets. Everything is just a formality but dragging it on now is just stupid.

Also if LeBron does return to Cleveland, which I don't think he will, he's an idiot and I regret rooting for him. I don't live in Miami but the Cavs are NOT a championship team even with LeBron and he knows it. Plus after how they acted when he left I wouldn't care. I know not all the fans are haters but still.

[Redeemer]

^^ that's a terrible idea. They'll need 2 basketballs to play...
Him and Wade seem to have worked it out and got two championships to boot!:P

I really hate all the useless waiting. ESPN just hypes all the different scenarios.

I'm sure Carmelo and LeBron know what they're gonna do and have known from the beginning. Just like before...Lebron obviously planned to join the Heat and Carmelo wanted to goto the Knicks, not the Nets. Everything is just a formality but dragging it on now is just stupid.

Also if LeBron does return to Cleveland, which I don't think he will, he's an idiot and I regret rooting for him. I don't live in Miami but the Cavs are NOT a championship team even with LeBron and he knows it. Plus after how they acted when he left I wouldn't care. I know not all the fans are haters but still.

Well I don't think they knew sense the beginning, because a lot of things had to happen. Lebron was in the finals so I am sure free agency was on the back burner for the time being. Secondly they have to wait and see what teams are most appealing from a roster and money point.
I think at this point they know what they are going to do.
and the fact that Carmelo has not signed with anyone tells me Lebron and Melo might be playing together next year.

[Wildcat]

I'm sure LeBron and Carmelo at the very least knew which way they were leaning from the start. I don't buy that players don't think about their off-season options during the year even if they are in the finals. It's only natural.

[Redeemer]

I'm sure LeBron and Carmelo at the very least knew which way they were leaning from the start. I don't buy that players don't think about their off-season options during the year even if they are in the finals. It's only natural.

lol I seriously doubt that now that he JUST committed to Cleveland!!!!!!
He just met with the Heat last Wensday with Riley!!!! wow
You might be right he probably had a feeling were he really wanted to go.

[XERO]

LeBron's like "I was just playin', Cleveland! We still cool?"

[Redeemer]

LeBron's like "I was just playin', Cleveland! We still cool?"

lol hater tater :P

[Wingnut]

Cleveland deserves to have their hero back. I feel for that city man.

They need him WAY more than Miami.



Breaking News; Jeremy Lin to the Lakers.

[Redeemer]

Cleveland deserves to have their hero back. I feel for that city man.

They need him WAY more than Miami.



Breaking News; Jeremy Lin to the Lakers.

here comes bosh spice!!!!

[Wildcat]

I thought Lebron might return to the Cavs one day but not this soon. I think its really stupid to do so NOW. The Heat made it to the Finals 4 times in a row and they won 2 titles. Why would you leave in the middle of a hot streak? Makes zero sense.

I don't think he owes Miami I just think its a really stupid thing to do when youre on a roll. They had the opportunity to be truly epic. Maybe 5 straight Finals and matching or exceeding the championships of the 90s Bulls.

I defended him when he left Cleveland. "The Decision" was unnecessary but it had been, what, 7 years and only 1 Finals appearance despite all the moves they made. It just wasn't working out...but to leave, win 2 and return just like that? He said he's not promising a championship yet but its like he HAS to win one in Cleveland now. The situation is far more grand than before.

It's just a weird and silly thing to have happen at this time. I really can't root for him anymore. I don't hate him but his behavior is really sporadic.

[Redeemer]

I thought Lebron might return to the Cavs one day but not this soon. I think its really stupid to do so NOW. The Heat made it to the Finals 4 times in a row and they won 2 titles. Why would you leave in the middle of a hot streak? Makes zero sense.

I don't think he owes Miami I just think its a really stupid thing to do when youre on a roll. They had the opportunity to be truly epic. Maybe 5 straight Finals and matching or exceeding the championships of the 90s Bulls.

I defended him when he left Cleveland. "The Decision" was unnecessary but it had been, what, 7 years and only 1 Finals appearance despite all the moves they made. It just wasn't working out...but to leave, win 2 and return just like that? He said he's not promising a championship yet but its like he HAS to win one in Cleveland now. The situation is far more grand than before.

It's just a weird and silly thing to have happen at this time. I really can't root for him anymore. I don't hate him but his behavior is really sporadic.

I think he left for a few reasons.
Dewayne Wade's knees are shot.
Pat Riley is going to walk away soon
The lack of help in the Finals
Miami lack of bench players
and the biggest problem is lack of point guards
Lebron was the only player on the floor that could create his own shot.

Cleveland has Kyrie Irving, Wiggins, shot creators.
Kyrie Irving is the best point guard James has ever had.
Also the lack of size on the heat took a toll on him the past few years, he has been playing Power-Forwad in Miami and now in Cleveland he will play small forward.
Cleveland just has a more promising future, while I think he should have waited a year or two more to join Cleveland he still see the bright future that team has.

Also Dan Gilbert is not afraid to pay luxury tax, unlike the heat.
I can go on, haven't even mentioned David Love possibility.

[Wildcat]

Dwyane Wade is still a great player. I hate when people make it sound like he's over the hill. He was "The Man" before Lebron came. The bench could be improved but thats not even the point.

They have not lost to anyone in the East and we've seen how they could destroy teams when they really turn it on. They lost to the Spurs because they are also a great team. Just because you miss a Three-peat doesn't mean youre done for. Winning titles every single year is an unrealistic expectation.

The Cavs are gonna be a Playoff team at best. Kyrie Irving is a good player but Im not labelling him a Superstar yet.

Dan Gilbert is full of it. He acted like a child and only now apologizes and removes that hate letter. Of course he's gonna do that now. I know Lebron is playing for his fans and home but I wouldn't buy his sympathy for one second.

[joe-eyeball]

I am from Cleveland and live in Bath, Ohio and I can tell you that Lebron coming home is something this city deserves. He has matured and knows what finishing his career in Cleveland truly means. Anyone who thinks he would be better off continuing with the Heat instead of the Cavs knows nothing about basketball. The Cavs are not done making moves, we will get Kevin Love and we will immediately be contending for the championship. The Cavs have youth, depth, and will aquire more veterans. The only team standing in our way is the Spurs. The Heat were done and lacked the flexibility to make their team better. Lebron knew this and decided to come now, and he couldnt have timed it better. Thank you Lebron and GO CAVS!!!!!!!!

[Redeemer]

I am from Cleveland and live in Bath, Ohio and I can tell you that Lebron coming home is something this city deserves. He has matured and knows what finishing his career in Cleveland truly means. Anyone who thinks he would be better off continuing with the Heat instead of the Cavs knows nothing about basketball. The Cavs are not done making moves, we will get Kevin Love and we will immediately be contending for the championship. The Cavs have youth, depth, and will aquire more veterans. The only team standing in our way is the Spurs. The Heat were done and lacked the flexibility to make their team better. Lebron knew this and decided to come now, and he couldnt have timed it better. Thank you Lebron and GO CAVS!!!!!!!!

I completely agree, I will say it again the weakness of the Heat was age, father time waits for no man. Dewayne Wade is still a great player and even an all-star, but not a super-star like he was. He lost that recovery-step making him a defensive reliability.

I definitely see Cleveland making some noise in the playoffs, I see them getting the number 3 or 4 seed at the very least. People forget how bad the lack of talent was when James was with Cleveland the first time. He took the 07 team to the finals.
Can anyone tell me where his 07 or 10 teammates are now???? lol

[psychturtle]

I think Cleveland will get a major shot in the arm but cant see how anyone can label them favorites or major title contenders. Way too many uncertainties. New coach, team yet to create chemistry, and inexperience are all factors that can dictate how far they go. They will make the playoffs but I'm not sold on them being 1-2 seed yet. I see about 5 teams standing in their way other than the spurs.

[shuriken]

Him and Wade seem to have worked it out and got two championships to boot!:P

They played different positions and are friends. Melo and LeBron are the same position and demand the ball. Throwing money at a team doesn't create a championship team (Don't believe me, ask the last season Kicks and Lakers). As for the Heat, they all took pay cuts (especially Wade).
Melo is getting the max contract in New York so good for him, and Lebron is coming home, good for him.
Lin would be a better fit anywhere else in my opinion, he's gonna be a bench when he should be starting but whatever not my call.
The Bulls got Pau Gasol, which shoulda happened 2 years ago but whatever. He's a good consistent 10 point and 10 rebounds a game. I'm curious to see if Thibs will have him as a reliever for Noah or will start him as a power forward.
As for Boozer, he's got one foot in and one foot out...
I think the Heat knew they weren't gettin Lebron back, which is why they got Granger. Gonna be an interesting season.

[Redeemer]

They played different positions and are friends. Melo and LeBron are the same position and demand the ball.

Lebron can play SG,SF,PG,PF He can almost play any position on the floor and he is a very good passer and has shown a natural Passer's Mentality at times so I am sure they could play on the same team.