Where do the Punk Frogs stand with the TMNT fandom?

[NinjaMan]

I've always liked them and really wish we got the rest of them as toys. For the most part, how does the TMNT Fandom feel about them?

[MikeandRaph87]

I cannot speak for fandom but they were my favorite ally growing up and still are. There was only the cameo of 3 out of 4 ofthem in the anime special that really gave them exposure beyond two figures, one of which looks nothing like the actual character. Its great having a "turtle" team b stashed away for emergency situations where they can come in and take part or on occasion be in town. They were fun characters and dialogue with unique weapon choices just like the turtles only have notorious names that only fit how they got started. I would have perferred different names but love the characters and wish to see some avenue for thier return in current and future TMNT projects.

[Blossombrooks]

I liked them too, it was one of the episodes that always stood out for me from childhood and I still enjoy it now. It would be kinda cool to see them in another incarnation but the OT had it right by not overusing them so only for an episode/issue or two.

[Foot Soldier Clang]

I liked them as a kid, but now I'm indifferent to them. They feel like a squandered idea from the OT. I'm down for some sort of re-imagining of them where they are an actual threat (they never felt like "punks" to me).

[Powder]

Love 'em. Wish they got their own manga or something (Japan seemed to like the Punk Frogs much more than the US did back in the 90's).

[JoshDA7X]

I like em! Never understood and still don't why the second toy was soooo different to the cartoon version?

[NinjaMan]

I like em! Never understood and still don't why the second toy was soooo different to the cartoon version?

Yeah I've also wondered why they never bothered with the other 2.

[Galactus]

'Invasion of the Punk Frogs' is a pretty good episode and I'm glad it was referenced again in the series but they were never that prominent for them to have any development. When I say development I mean any they all seem to have the same personality as each other and kept to that throughout all their appearances in the show.

I think they worked as a one of ant-turtles or if they needed a general mutant for a plot like in 'Dirk Savage Mutant Hunter'.

[CyberCubed]

It irks me to no end that Napoleon Bonafrog wasn't part of the Mutanimals in Archie.

The other 3 frogs are just boring clones of each other. Napoleon was the only one with personality and got solo episodes.

[TigerClaw]

I would like to see these characters brought into the Nick series, They seem like a good fit.

[ctt4lfecw]

I love the Frogs.

[oldmanwinters]

I could never tell them apart in the FW series, but I do love them as a concept. Maybe Nick or IDW will reinvent them and make each mutant a bit more distinctive.

[Powder]

It'd be pretty funny if Nick were to bring them back and really made them mirror the turtles by giving them the same builds & color-coordinated outfits as the turtles, essentially.
Hell, I might have to draw that... :trazz:

[Xav]

I'm pretty indifferent to them. I barely remember them from the show.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

I like them a lot. They were sort of like the TMNT's amphibian cousins.

I wonder how a spinoff with them could have worked? I guess maybe not too well if they couldn't get the Mutanimals to be a success.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I love um, one of my fav 80s episodes

[Mzx10484]

:D They are sympathetic to me. Outstanding OT episode with the punk frogs !! Should be possible to make custom figures ...

[Prowler]

Most FW fans seem to remember them. I've personally never been a fan of them because they all acted the same and were all naive and not so bright. That being said I did enjoy their debut episode and it's a shame they didn't get better character development and that the anti.mutant squad(or wtv its name was) never appeared again.

[TigerClaw]

If they were to bring the Punk Frogs into the Nick series, They gotta also bring in there accents, Its another thing I remember about the characters since they were from the Florida Swamps.

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[Cipher]

F*ck these clowns.

Really, though. They're isn't a unique personality among them and they rely pretty much wholly on the "Turtles-counterpart" gimmick, which has since been done more memorably.

There aren't many characters in the franchise I'd say I don't want to see again simply based on their concept, but the Frogs are among them.

[CyberCubed]

I don't get why Mondo Gecko only got 2 episodes while these guys were in like 5 episodes.

[Coola Yagami]

I don't get why Mondo Gecko only got 2 episodes while these guys were in like 5 episodes.

Cause Mondo Gecko came pretty late into the game? Dude, Genghis Frog was in the second wave of the TMNT toy line.

[CyberCubed]

Cause Mondo Gecko came pretty late into the game? Dude, Genghis Frog was in the second wave of the TMNT toy line.

But why didn't he appear earlier?

Mondo only got 2 episodes, Merdude only 1, Wingnut/Screwloose only 1, Mona Lisa only 1, Man Ray got changed to Ray, Mutagen Man only 1, Muckman only 1.

The Punk Frogs got 5 episodes.

[Coola Yagami]

But why didn't he appear earlier?

Mondo only got 2 episodes, Merdude only 1, Wingnut/Screwloose only 1, Mona Lisa only 1, Man Ray got changed to Ray, Mutagen Man only 1, Muckman only 1.

The Punk Frogs got 5 episodes.

.... cause they didn't come up with his toy design sooner...? Again, Genghis was wave 2. Mondo was what... wave 5 or 6? The frogs have had plenty of time to re-appear throughout the the show's run. Mondo was in it near the end before Red Sky changed everything and stuck to the core characters, with the exception being Rat King and Casey. It's almost like asking why did Leatherhead have more appearances than Slash.

[pannoni1]

I sort of view the Punk Frogs in a similar way to other characters that were introduced in the OT and got a Playmates figure but didn't appear in any video games, such as Mutagen Man and Mona Lisa. They have a cult fanbase and are in the class of highly anticipated characters looking to make a return in a new form, like Mutagen Man did in the Nickelodeon series. I applaud Fred Wolf for making a spinoff in the parent cartoon along with making some distinct features of each. I'm surprised they didn't get more combat with Bebop & Rocksteady since they are also thought of as punks. And Mondo Gecko was in wave 3 with Napoleon Bonafrog (1990), so its not like he appeared to late. Unfortunately, I still have trouble distinguishing each one immediately when I watch them and their evil roots in their first episode were rather silly compared to other villains. But I wouldn't be disappointed if they never appeared again.

[Desslok]

If they were to appear in the Nick series, I think it would be fun to steal Spider Bytez idea and have them be "Kung fu Frogs." Then they could have completely different fighting styles compared to the turtles and it could open the door to give them some more personality and increase that "similar but different" vibe the frogs seem to have been created to evoke.

"NINJA TURTLES vs KUNG FU FROGS!"

It sounds fun to me anyway. :trazz:

[Powder]

It'd be pretty funny if Nick were to bring them back and really made them mirror the turtles by giving them the same builds & color-coordinated outfits as the turtles, essentially.
Hell, I might have to draw that... :trazz:

Ended up doodling that, if anyone is interested-

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[turtlefanforever]

I've always liked them and really wish we got the rest of them as toys. For the most part, how does the TMNT Fandom feel about them?

Can't speak for all the fans but I loved it.

[Andrew NDB]

Where do the Punk Frogs stand with the TMNT fandom?

In infamy.

[sdp]

I'm rather indifferent about them, I hated the concept but they kind of won me over however they never made me feel like they were amazing either just that they had potential. And that drawing is great Powder.

[turtlefanforever]

This like many other characters and concepts is one of those things were you either love it or you could take it or leave it. Although with this, the majority isn't in the hate department

[Prowler]

Ended up doodling that, if anyone is interested-

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Why does the purple wearing one remind me of Slippy from Star Fox? O_o

[Garfield]

I didn't even find these guys special as a kid. I think its better when only one of them showed up...eh even then I didn't care. I couldn't differentiate any of them that's how poorly they stood out. Calling them a poor man's TMNT would be giving them too much credit.

They had cool action figures, but that's about it. The Napoleon Bonafrog Figure was so different (and so much better) than the design on the show, as a kid I didn't even realize that it was a figure of one of the Punk Frogs from the cartoon. I thought it was just another mutant that didn't show up in the cartoon.

[turtlefanforever]

I didn't even find these guys special as a kid. I think its better when only one of them showed up...eh even then I didn't care. I couldn't differentiate any of them that's how poorly they stood out. Calling them a poor man's TMNT would be giving them too much credit.

They had cool action figures, but that's about it. The Napoleon Bonafrog Figure was so different (and so much better) than the design on the show, as a kid I didn't even realize that it was a figure of one of the Punk Frogs from the cartoon. I thought it was just another mutant that didn't show up in the cartoon.

I thought they added a new dimension to the show. A someone like me type of thing to the turtles. They were all kinda the same but I find them sort of necessary too. I didn't mind them at all. And the turtles can never have too many allies. Sorta one of those starts off as a villain but then becomes an Allie like Lotus.

[blindturtle02]

I enjoyed the frogs as a kid. Now I'd come to the show around 90 or so. Spring, this would have been. I got one of the frogs before I'd even watched an episode featuring them and thought they were interesting. Wish they'd made all 4. But I did have Genghis and Napoleon. It was great being able to check in on the frogs every now and then in the ot. I actually liked them a little better than the neutrinos.

[turtlefanforever]

I enjoyed the frogs as a kid. Now I'd come to the show around 90 or so. Spring, this would have been. I got one of the frogs before I'd even watched an episode featuring them and thought they were interesting. Wish they'd made all 4. But I did have Genghis and Napoleon. It was great being able to check in on the frogs every now and then in the ot. I actually liked them a little better than the neutrinos.

The neutrinos were a little bit too over the top for me, still like them but the frogs had personality, and would actually fight. I'd really like for playmates to make all the frogs like they did with bebop and rocksteady.

[oldmanwinters]

Ended up doodling that, if anyone is interested-

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Wow, so great, Powder!

I like this so much I'll be disappointed if the Nick show doesn't adopt a similar idea.

[triplexxx]

Ended up doodling that, if anyone is interested-

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I think that's an excellent depiction, & I thought the Punk Frogs were great, always loved their adorable accents and vibrant personalities, overall I think they were one of the greatest additions to the tv part of the franchise.

[Jester]

Ended up doodling that, if anyone is interested-

:tlol:

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You can miss gold sometimes by missing certain threads.

Awesome work.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

'Invasion of the Punk Frogs' is a pretty good episode and I'm glad it was referenced again in the series but they were never that prominent for them to have any development. When I say development I mean any they all seem to have the same personality as each other and kept to that throughout all their appearances in the show.

I think they worked as a one of ant-turtles or if they needed a general mutant for a plot like in 'Dirk Savage Mutant Hunter'.

It's also worth noting that the show served to sell toys. I figure that's why the Frogs were so bland. But we all know that most everything in the cartoon was made to sell a toy counterpart.

If they were to bring the Punk Frogs into the Nick series, They gotta also bring in there accents, Its another thing I remember about the characters since they were from the Florida Swamps.

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Well the Frogs seemed connected to Leatherhead in the OT.
And for Nick, Leatherhead just has a menacing growl with no more of that Cajun flavor.
If the Frogs returned, they don't necessarily need to keep their accents despite their OT origin putting them in swamp lands.

If they were to appear in the Nick series, I think it would be fun to steal Spider Bytez idea and have them be "Kung fu Frogs." Then they could have completely different fighting styles compared to the turtles and it could open the door to give them some more personality and increase that "similar but different" vibe the frogs seem to have been created to evoke.

"NINJA TURTLES vs KUNG FU FROGS!"

It sounds fun to me anyway. :trazz:

That would be awesome! The Turtles are meant to be stealth so it be cool to see the Frogs more like powerhouse characters. And being they are Frogs, they should naturally have an amazing jumping ability for them to bounce around the battlefield.

Ended up doodling that, if anyone is interested-

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Awesome!
This gives them a little more personality even if they are still mirroring the Turtles lol.
Great job Powder

[pferreira]

Does anyone know where I can get a list of episodes that they were in. I only remember two or three. It'd be interesting to see which episodes they were in.

[turtlefanforever]

Does anyone know where I can get a list of episodes that they were in. I only remember two or three. It'd be interesting to see which episodes they were in.

It'll come up or turtlepedia

[jestermon]

I guess they were afraid the parents wouldn't buy 4 of the same or similar figure o wait no, that makes no sense.

He does look very cool though.

[Konchadunga]

I like them a lot in theory. In execution, though I don't dislike them, I feel they could have been done much better.

My first experience with them was just watching a trailer for an episode with them (the one where they fight Leatherhead, I believe) in a VHS I rented way back when; I believe it had The Turtle Terminator and one other episode on it. There, the narrator called them "The Feisty Frogs." Having since seen them and learned their actual team name, I have to say that "The Feisty Frogs" is a much better name; not just because it's alliterated, but also because I really don't see how "punk" actually describes them at all. They're not at all like any punk stereotypes; indeed, Bebop and Rocksteady and the Neutrinos are closer to that than the frogs. They're Southern (particularly Florida) stereotypes.

I also dislike how their origin is so sudden; really too sudden to justify them somehow being close to TMNT-caliber warriors; not to mention that being originally frogs doesn't give any justification for how they act human.

Finally, I really wish they did something to live more up to their names. I think if they were revamped, they should be called the Feisty Frogs, and should match their names in weaponry:
Attila--Club.
Genghis--Bow.
Napoleon--Rapier.
Rasputin--No idea; maybe something magical?

[turtlefanforever]

I also dislike how their origin is so sudden; really too sudden to justify them somehow being close to TMNT-caliber warriors; not to mention that being originally frogs doesn't give any justification for how they act human.

Finally, I really wish they did something to live more up to their names.

They transform
Into the last thing that touches the mutagen which is shredder, and they were meant to be murderers. They were named by a vicious warrior and somewhat dictator. You think Oroku saki would name them Bill,Ted, Jim, and Steven?!

[Garfield]

There, the narrator called them "The Feisty Frogs." Having since seen them and learned their actual team name, I have to say that "The Feisty Frogs" is a much better name; not just because it's alliterated, but also because I really don't see how "punk" actually describes them at all. They're not at all like any punk stereotypes; indeed, Bebop and Rocksteady and the Neutrinos are closer to that than the frogs. They're Southern (particularly Florida) stereotypes.




Yeah. the frogs weren't very "Punk". But I wouldn't say they were very feisty either. They were like these chilled out southern guys. But I guess Chilled out Southern Guy Frogs just doesn't roll off the tongue.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
meets
Chilled Out Southern Frog Guys

[Garfield]

I can almost smell the money; get that on a poster.
:lol:

[The Fifth Turtle]

Sadest thing about the frogs ........ they never did get a proper toy release.

[turtlefanforever]

Sadest thing about the frogs ........ they never did get a proper toy release.

It's pretty sad.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

I thought the saddest thing was that they had no real character arc or personalities lol

[Anton Chigurh]

If anything there names were definitely legit.

[turtlefanforever]

If anything there names were definitely legit.

That's what I'm sayin

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I like them a lot in theory. In execution, though I don't dislike them, I feel they could have been done much better.

I also dislike how their origin is so sudden; really too sudden to justify them somehow being close to TMNT-caliber warriors; not to mention that being originally frogs doesn't give any justification for how they act human.

Finally, I really wish they did something to live more up to their names. I think if they were revamped, they should should match their names in weaponry.

Ditto on the execution part. I thought they were interesting, but needed more diversity in their personalities. Napoleon was the obvious leader, and would be the natural fit for a strategist, Genghis could have been the team's powerhouse fighter, Rasputin might be the clever, intellectual type- and perhaps the intel ops; and maybe Attila could be- a range-fighter and stealth specialist? Keep the weapons the same as in the OT, but give them more definition between them.

As for their origin, they were caught by that kid right before the mutagen landed in the swamp and the kid's dad told him to throw them back. Since the last thing they touched was human and it was only moments earlier, then it makes sense they changed so fast.

[rodster6]

I think it's an interesting concept. Much like the Marvel universe having the Avengers, X-men and Fantastic Four, I like the idea of the TMNT universe having more than one superhero group in the Ninja Turtles. We also have the Punk Frog and the Mutanimals who I see as the Avengers of this world. Individual mutant heros who unite sometimes.

[MikeandRaph87]

Ditto on the execution part. I thought they were interesting, but needed more diversity in their personalities. Napoleon was the obvious leader, and would be the natural fit for a strategist, Genghis could have been the team's powerhouse fighter, Rasputin might be the clever, intellectual type- and perhaps the intel ops; and maybe Attila could be- a range-fighter and stealth specialist? Keep the weapons the same as in the OT, but give them more definition between them.

As for their origin, they were caught by that kid right before the mutagen landed in the swamp and the kid's dad told him to throw them back. Since the last thing they touched was human and it was only moments earlier, then it makes sense they changed so fast.

I always saw Genhis Frog as the leader of the four personally.

[turtlefanforever]

And it was a darker tone, they could be a serious force.

[snake]

And it was a darker tone, they could be a serious force.

I could see them working for the purple dragons or a rival gang in IDW. Or maybe even Nick as well.

[VaughnMichael]

I can't see them coming back but I did enjoy them on the 80's show.

[turtlefanforever]

Where the frogs are on the team or make a lot of guest apperances. Clearly Casey and April would be on the team. I don't want to add much more cause then the team would be too big.

[MisfitKraang]

I like the punk frogs:) but why are they called the punk frogs if they look like surfers?:ohwell:

[miru]

I like the Punk Frogs, but especially Napoleon's toy design, who's really cool by being all spiky and having a fly friend. I think Genghis's tongue weapon is pretty nice as well, but what does it do? Drain the target's life energy?

[swing_kinker]

I like the punk frogs:) but why are they called the punk frogs if they look like surfers?:ohwell:

surf punk was a big scene during the 80s.

[CowabungaMikey]

they're k.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

I like the Punk Frogs, but especially Napoleon's toy design, who's really cool by being all spiky and having a fly friend. I think Genghis's tongue weapon is pretty nice as well, but what does it do? Drain the target's life energy?

Same here, it's a shame we never got fresh designs of the other 2, Genghis could have stay like the cartoon design.

[electric_sheep]

I love them, they are way more up Ciro's alley than TMNT. as much as i bitch about Nick TMNT i feel that they could do a kick ass reinvention of Punk Frogs...

[Warhorse]

Well, what I did like about them when I was a kid, was that it was because they were from the Florida swamps, and I lived here almost all of my life, so, I thought it was a neat little way to tie the Turtles to my homestate in some way.

I welcome the Nick episode that would let them come down here. Florida is like the crazy state right now, you never know what you're going to encounter. And if it takes the Punk Frogs to get them down here, then so be it.

[electric_sheep]

Make them live in Degobah like swamp, Maybe the ooze that mutated them mutated the whole region and all animals there are horrible abominations, god damn it i want this to be a show. Anyone wanna pay me to make it?
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[Huzzah]

^ That image is actually my desktop background currently...has been for awhile.

[Zage]

I'd LOVE to see the Punk Frogs, in IDW. I think that they're my #1 most wanted, to make an appearance, that haven't yet. Then maybe have Baxter make some Roadkill Rodney's.

[Neutrino]

I was a big fan of the frogs, I never understood why we didn't a spin off show or more with them. I will say they seemed mishandled as far there purpose besides facing off with the turtles at first.

[miru]

Make them live in Degobah like swamp, Maybe the ooze that mutated them mutated the whole region and all animals there are horrible abominations, god damn it i want this to be a show. Anyone wanna pay me to make it?
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Great idea for them. It would be fun seeing them take down monsters and meet their own counterparts, the Viking Porpoises.