Characters Who You're Amazed Have Only Featured in One Version

[Cipher]

Or characters you'd like to see move beyond one version.

The Turtles mythos are ripe with these kind of one-off wonders, and, while the franchise has stayed relatively small for a genre series running more than 25 years, it's still kind of astounding there hasn't been more cross-pollinating.

With the full disclosure that I'm not a huge fan of bringing characters into new versions solely for the sake of homage, here are some I think deserve a shot outside their source material:

1. Bishop (4Kids) - This one is actually astounding, since he fills a specific niche (the thought of being caught by the government is always a background fear of the Turtles) and he works easily in any universe

2. Any of the non-Shredder big bads, including:

a. Null (Adventures)
b. Maligna (Adventures)
c. Armaggon (Adventures)
d. Dregg (Fred Wolf)
e. Sh'Okanabo (4Kids)
f. Dragon Lord (Next Mutation) - I'm dead serious, given how closely different versions have leaned into an Eastern mythology aspect from time to time. This is also one of the few times I feel the novelty of reviving a particular character could actually carry the whole thing as well.

3. Complete Carnage and Radical (Mirage)

4. Shadow Jones (Mirage) - I understand the difficulty of introducing a second-generation character, especially with the trend of younger Aprils and Caseys, but what a major player to have never left her source material

5. Cha Ocho (Mirage)

6. Viral (4Kids) - I actually want to see her again because I dug her shtick and the Turtles are wanting for female villains. Just give her a Dimension X origin.

7. Old Hob (IDW) - Too early, but I hope we see him carry over into future versions. Giving Splinter a mutant cat frenemy is the kind of chuckle-worthy twist that feels right at home in the franchise.

What are yours?

[tmnt transformer]

Mona Lisa...

[miru]

1) Muckman. Given Nick's love of grotesque creatures, we might see him soon but I'm surprised we haven't yet.
2) Zach, the Fifth Turtle. One could argue Pulverizer replaced him.
3) Armaggon. Who doesn't want the concept of a time traveling shark?
4) Chote. Or a dinosaur samurai?
5) Ninjara. Or a sexy fox babe?

EDIT: Muckman is back.

[victory_angel]

6. Viral (4Kids) - I actually want to see her again because I dug her shtick and the Turtles are wanting for female villains. Just give her a Dimension X origin.


Viral I can see again, particularly if she becomes an enemy of Donatello.


Bishop-I can see him popping up late season 2 at the earliest. I mean there is no way an alien attack can happen in New York without the rest of the country knowing of it. And he would be an interesting conflictionary character to Donnie. Because both of them uses science to further their own knowledge. But Donnie majority of the time uses Science as a means to help his brothers in their missions. But Bishop uses it as a means of torture.

Sh'okanabo-again could be something that pops up in season 3. Maybe as an agent of the Kraang, or maybe another character that is from the same world as the Kraang or neighboring dimension. And shares as desire to take over the earth, but he doesn't require April in order to full fill his plans.

Dark Turtles-Evil clones of the Turtles created by the Kraang to serve the Shredder. The Kraang had a perfect opportunity to collect Blood and Tissue samples from the Turtles when they were passed out in TCRI.

[CyberCubed]

Bishop is still a fairly new character and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in IDW at least.

The big one for me is Armaggon. How the hell did this guy never get used again outside a SNES game? A shark mutant from the future who shoots missiles from armbands and looks badass and awesome?

When I was 10 years old I thought Armaggon was the coolest thing I ever saw in my life. Virtually any 10 year old boy would love Armaggon. Hell any 25+ year old adult would love Armaggon. You would think a shark mutant would be used again. My god.

[Cipher]

Viral I can see again, particularly if she becomes an enemy of Donatello.
Her being a Donatello-specific enemy is a route I could foresee as well.

I'd actually assumed that was going to be an element of Back to the Sewers before it became clear that Viral was totally wiped out by the Shredder program, but the less said of that entire season, the better.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

I'll second Armaggon. A humanoid shark is a pretty badass character design and I'm surprised it hasn't been used in other versions besides TMNT Adventures (not counting his video game appearance).

My favorite TMNT cover of all time is Adventures #44. As a kid, that cover with Armaggon clutching Leonardo by the head made it a must read issue.

Maybe it's only a matter of time before he pops up again.

[RaphAndDonnie]

I'd like to see Armaggon, Ninjara and/or Mona Lisa and it wouldn't hurt to have Aska appear somewhere, considering how little characterization she had in Tournament Fighters. Also, I'd REALLY like to see Pimiko replace Karai just once as Shredder's daughter.

[CyberCubed]

Maybe it's only a matter of time before he pops up again.

Maybe not. Nick hasn't shown any signs of even acknowledging Armaggon exists. It seems like they'll probably make their own shark mutant and it'll be a totally different character.

Also I'd like to see Tempestra again. Perhaps the only reason she stood out is she was a unique villain created for the cartoon as opposed to all those mad scientists who were in episodes in the same season she debuted in.

Tempstra doesn't even have to be a videogame character. She can be from Dimension X or something.

[Coola Yagami]

Not all the surprising... Noone reads comics as much as they do with other mediums like tv, games and videogames. By now the Archie series is an almost obscure factoid of 'did you know that the guys that made Archie had a TMNT comic series back then?'. Most people playing Tournament Fighters probably thought the Archie characters were made up for the games.

I'm not saying I wouldn't wanna see Armaggon return... but noone outside this forum really know who Armaggon, Null, Maligna, Scul and Bean are.

[Coola Yagami]

I'd like to see Armaggon, Ninjara and/or Mona Lisa and it wouldn't hurt to have Aska appear somewhere, considering how little characterization she had in Tournament Fighters. Also, I'd REALLY like to see Pimiko replace Karai just once as Shredder's daughter.

The only issue with Aska is that she's a Konami original character. They'd have to ask them for the rights to use her. I honestly would love to see her return for the sake of people learning the astonishing fact that two female ninja can exist without the world imploding.

[CyberCubed]

Well on the bright side Old Hob is probably going to become Verminator-X at some point. Neat way to bring back a classic Archie character and make Hob and him one and the same.

Just like Dogpound and Rahzar are now the same character.

[Coola Yagami]

Well on the bright side Old Hob is probably going to become Verminator-X at some point. Neat way to bring back a classic Archie character and make Hob and him one and the same.

Just like Dogpound and Rahzar are now the same character.

That is a heavy assumption on your part. The dude isn't even a scientist.

[CyberCubed]

That is a heavy assumption on your part. The dude isn't even a scientist.

It will happen, I'm betting. Also Verminator-X's cat name was Manx, but nobody remembers that anyway.

[Electric]

armaggon im almost expecting in this new series. with dogpound to rahzar, fishface is now right there. the designs of armaggon, with all the metal or whatever on him, could easily be used since fishface already has machines of him.

bishop i really hope to see. he is one of the most logical villains for the turtles and it adds a whole new dynamic to the series. not only running from the foot, the kraang and the purple dragons, but now the government. in this new series its probably a little too early, but hoping for future seasons.

[Metalwolf]

I would be disappointed if Fishface turns into Armaggon. The poor guy is longing to be human again, and people want him to turn into some obscure character that looks like a derpy Street Shark? :ohwell:

[pannoni1]

The Channel 6 News Crew; though with Vernon appearing in the new movie and Irma appearing as a passing reference on Nick, Burne is the only one who just appeared on the OT. Its remarkable that they didn't get much love despite appearing in over half of all OT episodes.

Also another Konami character, Tora from the NES version of the Arcade Game. I was hoping s/he'd appear in an episode of the cartoon or the movies, but ended up disappointed, though at least the Shogun showed up as a robot in the episode "Combat Land".

They appeared in that Japan anime, but in terms of English only, the Punk Frogs. I don't count Playmates since they're tied to the cartoons. But it was a spinoff of TMNT within its own show, before Biker Mice and Samurai Pizza Cats did so.

[Technogeek29]

A lot could be done with Viral and you could tack her on any Sci-fi theme really. Doesn't even have to be from Dimension X just simply a program brought to life.

(Its a comic book with four ninja fighting Turtles, its normal by comparison)

I thought Aska could fit in with the Savate bringing her into a comic people are reading would bring her out of obscurity.

[CyberCubed]

You know prior to the Nick show a lot of characters would have made this list such as:

- Metalhead
- Chrome Dome
- Mutagen Man

And others who hadn't appeared in a long time like Slash and Rahzar. Thank god Nick is bringing back some older characters.

Also IDW bringing back Bebop/Rocksteady who were previously OT and Archie exclusive.

[Foot Soldier Clang]

I'm kind of hoping that maybe we'll see a new Alpha One, Rex-1, or Bug Man. Those guys aside, I really dig the villains from the Red Sky era of the OT and I surprised they weren't used in some other capacity somewhere in TMNT fiction.

[Dirty Blond]

This is a stretch answer, but I'd like to see another version of wisecracking Raphael.

[Cipher]

And others who hadn't appeared in a long time like Slash and Rahzar. Thank god Nick is bringing back some older characters.

Turtles Forever.

[TigerClaw]

Algernon, an alien lizard who appeared in one episode of the original series episode called "Beyond the Donatello Nebula" Donatello would call him Algie.

[CyberCubed]

I'm kind of hoping that maybe we'll see a new Alpha One, Rex-1, or Bug Man. Those guys aside, I really dig the villains from the Red Sky era of the OT and I surprised they weren't used in some other capacity somewhere in TMNT fiction.

Alpha-One is way too obscure and only works with robot Foot.

Rex-1 and Bugman didn't get toys so they lack exposure. One of the reasons so many OT characters were memorable was by their toys. The ones who didn't get figures like Tempestra, Shreeka, Bugman, etc. are the ones people tend to forget.

No idea why Playmates wasted figures on garbage animal characters like Monty Moose and Halfcourt rather than making characters who actually appeared in the show.

[Xav]

The Channel 6 News Crew; though with Vernon appearing in the new movie and Irma appearing as a passing reference on Nick, Burne is the only one who just appeared on the OT.Didn't Burne appear in the Archie series?

[Jester]

Didn't Burne appear in the Archie series?
In the episode adaptations, but outside of that, nope.

[CyberCubed]

I really don't see any of the 4kids characters being used again outside of Hun, Angel and probably Bishop.

I'm sure all the Fast Forward characters will remain obscure and never used again, regardless of their potential. Also doubt we'll be seeing the likes of Draco, Ultimate Ninja, Touch and Go, Garbageman, Quarry or the like. Although the 4kids series didn't really create that many new characters since most of them were Mirage in origin, outside of the ones I just mentioned.

I'm not sure about Ch'rell though. I can see IDW introducing him at some point.

[Technogeek29]

I really don't see any of the 4kids characters being used again outside of Hun, Angel and probably Bishop.

I'm sure all the Fast Forward characters will remain obscure and never used again, regardless of their potential. Also doubt we'll be seeing the likes of Draco, Ultimate Ninja, Touch and Go, Garbageman, Quarry or the like. Although the 4kids series didn't really create that many new characters since most of them were Mirage in origin, outside of the ones I just mentioned.

I'm not sure about Ch'rell though. I can see IDW introducing him at some point.

Its weird, you think Touch and Go would get another shot at the spot light? They are just hired muscle after all. And while they have a very exploitable weakness have proven to be quite the challenged.

[VaughnMichael]

I'm going to go with Savanti and Titanus.
Both time lords and both have a lot of potential.

[CyberCubed]

Savanti was in 4kids though.

[MikeandRaph87]

The Punk Frogs, an underdeveloped great concept that should resurface. A fun set of characters I have always enjoyed.

Agent Bishop, a government operative who sees his acts of evil as for the better of mankind. An interesting character that would work well in IDW.

Armaggon,the Futue Shark. Vicious and visually coolm It would be nice to see him beyond three stories of one version. He has a lot of potential and is in need of attention.

Big Louie,a Godfather type that I think could work in a more serious tone even Mirage. A seriously underappreciated and underrated character that can play havoc with the New York City Underworld.

I also second the wisecracking sarcasm of Raphael. Its one half of who he is along with the hotheaded nature. The two traits can work well together.

[Xav]

Isn't Nick Raphael already sort of wisecracking?

[Foot Soldier Clang]

Alpha-One is way too obscure and only works with robot Foot.

Rex-1 and Bugman didn't get toys so they lack exposure. One of the reasons so many OT characters were memorable was by their toys. The ones who didn't get figures like Tempestra, Shreeka, Bugman, etc. are the ones people tend to forget.

No idea why Playmates wasted figures on garbage animal characters like Monty Moose and Halfcourt rather than making characters who actually appeared in the show.

Tempestra, Shreeka, and I guess Medusa would be fun to bring back. And I wish there were figures of all of these characters instead of the random mutants that we got. Certainly some of the toy-only characters could be remade into actual characters because of their cool designs. I know Wyrm and Scum Bug already exist in the comics, but what about Scale Tail? His design is so full of personality it's almost a waste he wasn't used elsewhere.

[Metalwolf]

I'm going to be the big dissenter here but...

I'd rather see them develop some new characters then mine some obscure characters from some old comic book. Plus they risk 'mutant overload' by continuously dropping all of these bottom tier characters that most casual people haven't heard of, many of which aren't too special aside from a simple shtick and some cool-for-5-minutes animal form.

The reason why I say this is that I am mostly an outsider when it comes to this stuff, mainly a purveyor of the first two TMNT movies and the Nick and OT cartoons. And as an outsider, to me all of these other mutants look the same and take away the specialness of the Turtles. It's one thing when they have some of their arch-enemies' grunts be mutants, as the mutating is still rare and unique. But when you have all of these mutant guys come in, it starts making mutation look trite and commonplace, adding some 'X-based' mutant just because. When I see all of those mutants, I think, "What's so special about them? They look pretty much the same, just differing slightly in their genetic mutation and their one 'gee wow' factor."

[Xav]

I know Wyrm and Scum Bug already exist in the comics, but what about Scale Tail? His design is so full of personality it's almost a waste he wasn't used elsewhere.Scale Tail actually did appear in the game Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 Radical Rescue.

[VaughnMichael]

Savanti was in 4kids though.
But it like most of the 4kids series was just watered down versions of Mirage comics.

[Pterobat]

But it like most of the 4kids series was just watered down versions of Mirage comics.

But what else would you get from a re-use of Savanti outside of the Mirage comics than a "watered-down" version of the original guy?

I guess the question is if people want a reappearance to be the same, or to how much a degree it should be tweaked.

My knee-jerk response is that it's better to create a new character, unless the old one is a franchise staple or fills a specific niche. It is always possible to recapture what made us love a character before, but there's also the risk of the franchise becoming stagnant. So, more new blood, I say.

When it comes to mutants, I don't care about the broader idea of more mutants. As long as they are interesting characters without too much species overlap/redundancy.

[Gin Rummy]

Null from the Adventures comic was awesome. He would make for a pretty cool villain in the Nick series IMO. It's a shame that the Adventures comic has been totally left out of the new series.

[DarthEmpress]

Tempestra, Pimiko, Shadow Jones, Mona Lisa, Radical, Complete Carnage, Traximus, Glurin...there's probably a lot more, but I really wish we'd see Shadow in something other than the comics. I like seeing her growing up with the turtles as her uncles.

[Cipher]

Tempestra, Pimiko, Shadow Jones, Mona Lisa, Radical, Complete Carnage, Traximus, Glurin...there's probably a lot more, but I really wish we'd see Shadow in something other than the comics. I like seeing her growing up with the turtles as her uncles.
Glurin, man!

F*cking Glurin. Every time a series needs a named, friendly Utrom, it ought to be him.

[CyberCubed]

What about Groundchuck and Dirtbag? They seemed like they were supposed to be the third most notable mutant pair of henchmen after Bebop/Rocksteady and Rahzar/Tokka.

They even were bosses in TMNT III for NES. I always got the feeling that Groundchuck and Dirtbag were originally intended to be far more important characters than they were.

[Foot Soldier Clang]

What about Groundchuck and Dirtbag? They seemed like they were supposed to be the third most notable mutant pair of henchmen after Bebop/Rocksteady and Rahzar/Tokka.

They even were bosses in TMNT III for NES. I always got the feeling that Groundchuck and Dirtbag were originally intended to be far more important characters than they were.

I was personally never into those two. They were pretty uninteresting characters that never really made an impression on me. I thought Groundchuck had a cool design, but that's it.

[BabyTurtles]

Bishop :3 I liked him

cause secret agents are cool~ :D

[TMNTmousers]

Mona Lisa, Groundchuck and Dirtbag.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Bishop defiantly. He is quite easy to adapt into new versions of TMNT.